Having not seen the code I can’t measure the size of the challenges facing the project, but I’d be very interested in getting involved (developer with ~4 years on apple platforms).
Joe > On 21 Nov 2014, at 10:33 am, Jim <kurb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Whilst i think the idea of making QC open source could be great i do wonder > if there is a large enough community of developers with the impetus and > skills to fix and maintain Quartz Composer to a usable standard? > > -- > > Jim Warrier > > Audio Visual Performer > > destroythingsbeautiful.com <http://destroythingsbeautiful.com/> | > www.modulate.org.uk <http://www.modulate.org.uk/> > > On Friday, 21 November 2014 at 11:29, Joe Rickerby wrote: > >> I think open-sourcing is the only chance QC has at this point. >> >> But I think the prospect of Apple open sourcing QC is complicated by the >> fact the QuartzComposer framework is embedded into Quartz. This means there >> are apps out there that are using classes like QCRenderer, QCView to >> implement graphics. >> >> If Apple open-sources QC, they have a choice between deprecating the QC >> classes (breaking third party apps) or bundling code that comes from an open >> source project they don’t entirely control. >> >> Joe >> >>> On 21 Nov 2014, at 8:35 am, Dan Gregor <danin...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:danin...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> oh no, i can't still believe this, such a shame! there isn't any software >>> on a market with a same good potential as QC had. QC should be a future. >>> shame on apple, shame on all apple managers! >>> what about Chris Wright, can't he push apple to make QC as a open source? >>> what would be the price for QC source code? >>> very sad.. >>> Dan Gregor >>> >>> >>> >>> 2014-11-21 5:41 GMT+01:00 Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:usefuldesign...@gmail.com>>: >>>> Maybe some can start a crowdfunded community campaign to get Apple (and >>>> other large software companies) to Open Source EOL software that wont >>>> unduly compete with their existing products? >>>> >>>> Not for me I have no time but can't see Apple resisting a Green My Apple >>>> scale campaign for too long… they're sitting on more cash assets than most >>>> nations in the world today, think of the good they could do and brownie >>>> points they would score. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 21 Nov 2014, at 11:13 am, Juan Madrigal <jua...@mac.com >>>> <mailto:jua...@mac.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > They should have open sourced Final Cut Server, Shake and Color when >>>> > they EOL'D them but they didn't. >>>> > >>>> > Great software that's collecting dust. >>>> > >>>> > It's sad. >>>> > >>>> > -Juan >>>> > >>>> > Sent from my iPad >>>> > >>>> > On Nov 20, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com >>>> > <mailto:rm...@latencyzero.com>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> I certainly don't want to see it go, and I don't want to use >>>> >> cross-platform apps. They universally suck. >>>> >> >>>> >> If Apple won't continue to support QC, perhaps they should open source >>>> >> it instead. >>>> >> >>>> >>> On Nov 20, 2014, at 15:50 , Jim <kurb...@gmail.com >>>> >>> <mailto:kurb...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Quartz Composer bugs being closed. I see some my oldest Quartz >>>> >>> Composer bugs are being closed with the message >>>> >>> >>>> >>> "Apple Developer Relations 20-Nov-2014 08:01 PM >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Engineering has determined that there are no plans to address this >>>> >>> issue. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> We are now closing this bug report” >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> This implies that Quartz composer will no longer receive fixes for >>>> >>> long standing bugs despite its continued use in many high profile live >>>> >>> shows and deep integration with real time video apps. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Quartz Composer still maintains a very active community. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> One of the most common issues with qc is using OpenCI and using >>>> >>> meshes. In the past year i have worked on or am aware of shows created >>>> >>> for some of the highest profile musicians in the world yet this >>>> >>> application is still being neglected and left to fade into obscurity >>>> >>> by Apple. With the resouces that apple have at its disposal a enginner >>>> >>> could easily be assigned to maintain Quartz Composer to a more usable >>>> >>> standard. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I can see a large portion of the Quartz Composer user base >>>> >>> transitioning to Max 7 or Vuo over the next few years. Given both >>>> >>> those applications play nicely on multi OS this could lose Apple a >>>> >>> large part of its creative user base which would be a shame to see >>>> >>> happen >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -- >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Jim Warrier >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Audio Visual Performer >>>> >>> >>>> >>> destroythingsbeautiful.com <http://destroythingsbeautiful.com/> | >>>> >>> www.modulate.org.uk <http://www.modulate.org.uk/> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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