I had the initial same opinion with Gene Fieg. When I looked at the rule, I was hardly able to convince myself that a statement of responsibility includes whatever I see in the t.p., until I recalled AACR2 rule. I felt that I said something very stupid. Now I feel much better :)
Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Gene Fieg <gf...@cst.edu> wrote: > I will take the optional omission, then. But even before all of that, the > examples don't seem to imply or state that we have to include a lot of > irrellevant info. > > Now, one should keep that t.p. in hand when makin authority records, but > for description, not needed. > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Kevin M Randall <k...@northwestern.edu>wrote: > >> The examples under "Optional Omission" are:**** >> >> ** ** >> >> by Harry Smith**** >> >> Source of information reads: by Dr. Harry Smith**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Charles F. Hoban, Jr.**** >> >> Source of information reads: Charles F. Hoban, Jr., Special Assistant, >> Division of Visual Education, Philadelphia Public Schools**** >> >> ** ** >> >> sponsored by the Library Association**** >> >> Source of information reads: sponsored by the Library Association >> (founded 1877)**** >> >> ** ** >> >> The implication here is that the entire statement as found after "Source >> of information reads:" would be included in the statement of responsibility >> element, unless it is abridged per the Optional Omission.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Kevin M. Randall**** >> >> Principal Serials Cataloger**** >> >> Northwestern University Library**** >> >> k...@northwestern.edu**** >> >> (847) 491-2939**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Proudly wearing the sensible shoes since 1978!**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and >> Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Gene Fieg >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2013 10:52 AM >> *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA >> >> *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] S-o-R/RDA 2.4.1.4**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Well, I thought I would go back to 2.4.1.4 and see what it says.**** >> >> **** >> >> It appears to be very much in line with AACR2. I did not see anything >> like the examples given in previous e-mails. Titles are omitted. They >> don't really add anything to the area of responsibility. I did see >> "Professors" used once, and that may be due the use of the last name.**** >> >> **** >> >> Anyway, I see no justification in RDA to include all of that other stuff >> mentioned in other e-mails. I looked at the LC guidlines (LCPPCs?) and >> they don't seem to include all that stuff either.**** >> >> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 6:30 PM, J. McRee Elrod <m...@slc.bc.ca> wrote:*** >> * >> >> Daniel posted:**** >> >> >> >"edited by J. Garland, [of] Cambridge Carbonates UK; J.E. Neilson,**** >> >> .[of] University of Aberdeen, UK; S.E. Laubach, [of] University of >> .Texas at Austin, USA and K.J. Whidden, [of] USGS, USA" >> >> This has the same difficulty presented by "by", "par", etc. introduced >> into statements of responsibility before ISBD's "/" replaced them, and >> by RDA's "language of the catalogue" inclusions. Such inclusions >> create difficulties in multilingual situations. >> >> With the exception of the loss of "[sic]", RDA's tendency to have data >> transcribed as found (with the exceptions of punctuation and >> capitalization) might be good. >> >> The goal of IFLA's Universal Bibliographic Control (UBC) was that >> descriptions created anywhere in the world (preferably in the country >> of publication) could be used anywhere. RDA's inclusions represent a >> giant step backward from that ideal.**** >> >> >> >> __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) >> {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing >> HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/<http://www.slc.bc.ca/> >> ___} |__ \__________________________________________________________*** >> * >> >> >> >> >> -- **** >> >> Gene Fieg >> Cataloger/Serials Librarian >> Claremont School of Theology >> gf...@cst.edu**** >> >> **** >> >> Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Lincoln University do not >> represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any of the information >> or content contained in this forwarded email. The forwarded email is that >> of the original sender and does not represent the views of Claremont School >> of Theology or Claremont Lincoln University. It has been forwarded as a >> courtesy for information only.**** >> > > > > -- > Gene Fieg > Cataloger/Serials Librarian > Claremont School of Theology > gf...@cst.edu > > Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Lincoln University do not > represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any of the information > or content contained in this forwarded email. The forwarded email is that > of the original sender and does not represent the views of Claremont School > of Theology or Claremont Lincoln University. It has been forwarded as a > courtesy for information only. > -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
