What is the difference? Both open to the public. Both are (probably) unlimited public forums though subject to somewhat differing regulations as to use, one would suppose.
But what Summum decided was that it wasn’t the public forum nature of the park that controlled but rather the compelled government speech. The question of whether the Satanists get to place a permanent religious monument in a public forum was decided in Summum — the state can refuse to do so. Whether a state can permit such monuments to be placed raises a different question — there could be establishment endorsement problems. And whether the 10 commandments can be there depends on fine distinctions unsupportable by logic, consistency, or theory, but all of those often give way to practical solutions, even in Con Law. -- Prof. Steven D. Jamar vox: 202-806-8017 Director of International Programs, Institute for Intellectual Property and Social Justice http://iipsj.org Howard University School of Law fax: 202-806-8567 http://iipsj.com/SDJ/ "Example is always more efficacious than precept." Samuel Johnson, 1759 On Dec 9, 2013, at 8:58 AM, Len <campquest...@comcast.net> wrote: > apologies for the previously unsigned post. > > Leonard A. Zanger > Camp Quest of Michigan, Inc. > > > From: "Len" <campquest...@comcast.net> > To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> > Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 5:31:33 AM > Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at > Oklahoma Legislature > > Isn't there a significant difference between placing a religious monument in > a public park vs placing a religious monument in a State capitol building? > > From: "Steven Jamar" <stevenja...@gmail.com> > To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> > Cc: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2013 9:46:54 PM > Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at > Oklahoma Legislature > > Sunnum handles this, no? > > Sent from Steve's iPhone > > > On Dec 8, 2013, at 9:43 PM, hamilto...@aol.com wrote: > > Inevitable. > > Marci > > Marci A. Hamilton > Paul R. Verkuil Chair in Public Law > Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law > Yeshiva University > 55 Fifth Avenue > New York, NY 10003 > (212) 790-0215 > http://sol-reform.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joel Sogol <jlsa...@wwisp.com> > To: Religionlaw <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> > Sent: Sun, Dec 8, 2013 9:24 pm > Subject: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma > Legislature > > Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature > > http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/08/21820518-satanists-want-statue-beside-ten-commandments-monument-at-oklahoma-legislature?lite > > > Joel L. Sogol > Attorney at Law > 811 21st Ave. > Tuscaloosa, Alabama 35401 > ph (205) 345-0966 > fx (205) 345-0971 > email: jlsa...@wwisp.com > website: www.joelsogol.com > > Ben Franklin observed that truth wins a fair fight - which is why we have > evidence rules in U.S. courts. > > _______________________________________________ > To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see > http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw > > Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as > private. > Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people > can > read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the > messages to others. > _______________________________________________ > To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see > http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw > > Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as > private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; > people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) > forward the messages to others. > > _______________________________________________ > To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see > http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw > > Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as > private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; > people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) > forward the messages to others. > > > _______________________________________________ > To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see > http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw > > Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as > private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; > people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) > forward the messages to others.
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