If I’m right that Hosanna-Tabor applies, wouldn’t the church just have a categorical right to exclude members or attendees, notwithstanding any antidiscrimination law, just as it has a categorical right to dismiss clergy notwithstanding any discrimination law – even without a showing that the church feels religiously compelled to violate the law?
To be sure, I don’t think that Hosanna-Tabor protects “just any activity [of] a church.” But it does protect decisions whether to accept or reject clergy; might it equally protect decisions whether to accept or reject church members or attendees? Eugene From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Jamar Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:13 AM To: Law Religion & Law List Subject: Re: Church excludes nursing woman I assume freedom of association would protect a church in selecting its membership. And I assume Hosanna-Tabor would protect religion-driven decorum decisions like separate seating for men and women in synagogues and mosques. But this is just a case of people being uncomfortable — not a religiously-compelled doctrine or code of conduct. I don’t see either Hosanna-Tabor or RFRA reaching that. Hosanna-Tabor does not extend to just any activity a church claims and RFRA requires a substantial burden on the exercise of religion (assuming the VA RFRA is like the federal one — again, I’m not interested in the particulars of the VA RFRA). -- Prof. Steven D. Jamar Assoc. Dir. of International Programs Institute for Intellectual Property and Social Justice http://iipsj.org http://sdjlaw.org "In these words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: It goes on." --Robert Frost On Apr 27, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Volokh, Eugene <vol...@law.ucla.edu<mailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu>> wrote: 1. Does the principle underlying Hosanna-Tabor extend to churches excluding members (or visitors) based on race, sex, religion, etc.? I assume it would, which is why, for instance, Orthodox synagogues could have separate seating for men and women, Nation of Islam events could be men-only (there are a few cases on the latter, though free speech cases rather than religious freedom cases), various churches could be racially or ethnically exclusionary in their membership, and so on. 2. If a church can exclude people from membership or attendance based on race, sex, etc., I assume it would likewise be free to exclude people who engage in certain behavior. 3. Virginia does have a state RFRA, Va Code 57-2.02, but I assume the Hosanna-Tabor principle – if it’s applicable – would provide categorical protection, not subject to trumping under strict scrutiny. Eugene From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu<mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu> [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Jamar Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:49 AM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Church excludes nursing woman If RFRA applied to the state, or if Virginia had a state RFRA that copied the federal RFRA, would this state law be legal? Virginia law provides that a woman can breast feed uncovered anywhere she has a legal right to be. Can a church then exclude her because breast feeding uncovered might make some other congregants uncomfortable? https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/this-breastfeeding-mom-caused-a-stir-in-church/2017/04/26/adb7ac84-2a8d-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html?utm_term=.cca0b874fc7c -- Prof. Steven D. Jamar Assoc. Dir. of International Programs Institute for Intellectual Property and Social Justice http://iipsj.org<http://iipsj.org/> http://sdjlaw.org<http://sdjlaw.org/> "Years ago my mother used to say to me... 'In this world Elwood' ... She always used to call me Elwood... 'In this world Elwood, you must be Oh So Smart, or Oh So Pleasant.' Well for years I was smart -- I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." --Elwood P. Dowd - Mary Chase, "Harvey", 1950 _______________________________________________ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu<mailto:Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
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