All:
My first statement in the prior e-mail was right - it's easy to be
confused by this stuff.
In thinking about my e-mail below last night, I decided that the
behavior I attributed to Rosgarden is not caused by Rosegarden. It is
caused instead, by my use of a qjackctl patchbay (which is instantiated
when qjackctl starts up).
The connections it sets up allow me to play (in Rosegarden, or by
itself) on two different tracks with the two keyboards, using qsynth.
I turned off the MIDI-thru routing in Rosegarden because it was
'muddling up' what was happening - adding the currently-selected track
into the mix (or even duplicating the signals to that track).
I will say (in the category of wish-lists) that it would be good if the
recording filters could be used when playing/practicing in Rosegarden,
rather than just when recording. Then it would not be necessary to use
qjackctl to allow playing simultaneously on two different tracks from
two different MIDI keyboards (or from a split keyboard).
Sorry for confusing the issue.
- Aere
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 21:15 -0600, Aere Greenway wrote:
> All:
>
> I do not have the latest development version of Rosegarden - only the
> version that came with Ubuntu 11.10.
>
> I have noticed it is easy to be confused about this sort of thing.
>
> I tend to use Qjackctl to make connections, and I have seen at least
> one instance where it was one of my manually-made connections going
> through, rather than the ones Rosegarden sets up, that was confusing
> me.
>
> With the version of Rosegarden I now have, I turned-off the MIDI-thru
> routing (controlled by the 'selected' track), and just used the
> track-select on my keyboard to control which track I send on.
>
> Though the Rosegarden documentation I last read says the MIDI
> recording filters work only while recording, I have wished they would
> be effective at other times.
>
> The way I use Rosegarden, I often play two keyboards at the same time,
> and wish (while monitoring or practicing) they could go to different
> MIDI channels (as they will during recording, controlled by the
> recording filters).
>
> It seems that the version of Rosegarden in Ubuntu 11.04 ("Betty
> Prior") responded reliably according to what track was selected, and I
> never considered turning-off the MIDI-thru routing.
>
> The behavior where I could control which track sounded by changing the
> transmit-channel on my keyboard seemed to happen with the Ubuntu 11.10
> version (Don Juan).
>
> But again (as I said), it is easy to be confused on this, because of
> the Qjackctl 'patchbay' configuration I use.
>
> I hope I am not confusing the issue, or wasting your time, but am
> hoping this additional viewpoint may shed further light on the
> situation.
>
> - Aere
>
>
> On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 19:03 -0400, Ted Felix wrote:
>
> > On 4/15/2012 4:46 PM, Tom Breton (Tehom) wrote:
> > > Somewhat dirty, in that it assumes all instruments are fixed. I didn't
> > > see a good way to deal with playing on a track with "auto" or audio
> > > instruments.
> >
> > I tried it out and it works fine for tracks in "fixed" mode.
> >
> > Maybe when an auto mode track is recording (armed and the transport
> > is in record) you can allocate a channel for "monitoring"? A channel
> > should be available since the track that is being recorded doesn't need
> > to allocate a channel since it isn't playing. Or... How about just
> > treating the recording track like a playing track. Allocate a channel
> > for it and send the appropriate program change. Then send the notes
> > being recorded from input channel 1 to this allocated channel? Just
> > some random thoughts (I have no idea what I'm talking about). Maybe
> > there's a better solution?
> >
> > As it is, it works for me. But it might cause confusion for other
> > users. I wonder how other sequencers deal with this.
> >
> > Ted.
> >
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