On Feb 23, 2008, at 6:49 AM, devzero2000 wrote:
Pardon, I have been too much synthetic: english is't my first
language.
Then,I do not share the patch proposed in stable branch (rpm 4.4.6
and 5).
The motivations are the same ones expressed in several mail on the
argument in the past years, and I believe in the same reasons.
In particular, to my opinion, to impose in categorical way that the
produced RPM do not depend on directory orphaned would obtain the
same ones overal benefits in term of RPM QA that it has had "fascist
check" in phase of build, almost for me: ok, is not a corrected
comparison, but it renders the idea. Moreover, the system
manegiability would be better if all the system components are
expressed as package dependency.
Moreover the problem, from what I know, is famous from years,
leading to the production of instruments as http://enrico-scholz.de/rpmDirectoryCheck/INFO
: but i think that it is better that the problem is solved by rpm
itself,
I hope of having express better my thought, Wrong that is, on the
argument.
Thank you for clarifying your opinion.
I personally am still unsure whether having files depend on their
parent directory
(and symlinks depend on their end-point) was the right thing to do in
rpm or not.
On the positive side, files depending on their parent directory will
eventually
succeed in establishing "ownership" of directories by a package, a
worthy goal
pointed out by Enrico years ago with rpmDirectoryCheck. Operations
tied to
creating a directory path, like setting selinux file contexts, are
also more predictable
and reliable if directories are handled explicitly as part of package
installs. Managing
unowned or pre-exsiting directories requires some guessing what the
intended rwx
mode should be.
On the negative side, adding dependencies on parent directories adds
some additional
modest overhead to dependency solving. The fundamental conceptual
issue is that
parent directory dependencies are not explicitly included in package
metadata as other
dependencies are represented. This is surprising and mysterious
implementation peculier
behavior for many users and applications and distros.
73 de Jeff
