>From Dick Karnes

Dave Engle

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From: Richard Karnes <rnk2...@yahoo.com>
To: David Engle <riroc...@att.net> 
Cc: Henry <tennsga...@aol.com>; Bothwell <jamie.bothw...@verizon.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: Chester cars



Dave --

Bill Stewart started Midgauge Models.  He produced a line of boxcar and express 
reefer kits as well as the smooth-side aluminum-extrusion passenger cars you 
mention (60-foot shorties and 85-foot full length).  He also put out a kit for 
a scale PRR K-5 Pacific that used AF pacific boiler and tender superstructures. 
 He had some sort of exchange arrangement with Gilbert for this, but I forget 
the details.  It could be that he supplied Gilbert with the fluted aluminum 
extrusions for the AF streamliners, but I'm not sure.  Rollie Mercier would 
know.  As far as I know, Bill never marketed fluted extrusions to S scalers.

The Midgauge line also included cast white metal kits for superstructures for 
the Alco S-4 and EMD SW-1, intended to be powered by Miller power trucks.  And 
there was a kit that converted the AF streamlined coach body to a self-powered 
carbody.  The primary component of this kit was a front end casting that 
replaced the AF car end.


Midgauge became Sylvania when Stewart passed his firm to Gene Fletcher, who 
kept only the passenger car line.

The Chester cars came in the following varieties:  baggage, baggage-mail, RPO, 
combine, coach, roomette, diner, observation.  When JC Models briefly entered 
the S scale market around 1980, they reprised the Chester sides, but offered 
equivalent smooth-side kits as well.  The original Chester kits contained only 
the corrugated aluminum P-S sides, wood floor and roof, two wood blocks to be 
used as spacers between the roof and the floor, celluloid strips for window 
glass, two flat aluminum ends devoid of any detail, and eight short wood screws 
to attach these ends to the floor and roof ends.  The J-C kits were much more 
complete; they even included detailed cast ends that even today are highly 
sought.
Dick Karnes



From: David Engle <riroc...@att.net>
>To: S-Scale <S-Scale@yahoogroups.com> 
>Cc: Henry <tennsga...@aol.com>; Bothwell <jamie.bothw...@verizon.net>; Richard 
>Karnes <rnk2...@yahoo.com> 
>Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 6:40 AM
>Subject: Chester cars
>
>
>
> The cars I have are all the pre-war PS pattern, that is, the upper 
>letterboard is half smooth, half-corrugated.  I have never seen, let alone 
>owned , any smooth-side cars.  The only possible exception is several cars 
>that are smooth except for a horizontal rail above and below the windows; I 
>understand those are aluminum extrusions by Sylvania, whomever they were.  
>Midgage is known for the long extrusions that I understand were actually made 
>by AF to match AF cars.  
>
>I remember getting 3 cars in 1957 or 58, then trading them to Doc Johnson in 
>St. Louis for 2 AF coaches and a Midgage express reefer at the St.Louis MCoR 
>convention.   By their 1962 convention, I was set in my all-scale ways; in 
>1968 I acquired all 3 Chester cars back plus about a dozen or so more, but 
>never really put them in service--no trucks at the time.   I doubt I have all 
>the different sides that Chester offered.   I acquired a shortened RPO from 
>Dick Karnes in those days, and it is on the layout as a straight RPO.   More 
>recently, he has done an observation car from Chester sides, etc;  
>
>I remember that a local railcar repair shop in the '90s had one of the L&N 
>head end cars,  full-length, 3 doors; by then it was a monster pigeon 
>sanctuary.  AFAIK, there is a Chester match for that car.  
>
>Maybe we could go back through the Model Railroader mags of the '50s and find 
>the ads I looked at then.  Also, has anyone compared the Chester side 
>offerings to what Union Station Products offers for. Southern, L&N, etc., 
>
>Jamie, Earl; Thank you very much for your very informative responses already.
>
>Dave Engle
>
>

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