Re: [ql-users] What is Ornak ?
Rich, You are correct, in faded print i can make out 'Tombs of Ornak' , Has this always been public Domain software, it looks retail to me. Thanks for the info Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16 January 2007 18:21 It is a good little public domain text adventure - the Lost Tombs of Ornac (available for download on my website) Rich On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:38:35 -, Neil Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I've got a QL program called ORNAK but haven't a clue what it is and am not currently in a position to fire it up on a QL to check. Can anyone remember? Thank you Neil *** The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact the company on 01793-715380, then delete it from your system. Please note neither the company nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any) for viruses. No contract may be concluded on behalf of the company by means of email communications. BC Services (UK) Limited (trading as Boxclever), Technology House, Ampthill Road, Bedford, MK42 9QQ. Registered No. 5290544 England www.boxclever.co.uk *** ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services URL:http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk URL:http://www.rwapservices.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Sharing Aurora with PC screen/keyboard/mouse
Hi Chaps I have hatched a cunning plan to share my PC's Monitor / Keyboard / Mouse with my AURORA. I have a D-Link KVM switch ( 2 way) . Now my problem lies in the PS/2 sockets the KVM switch expects to connect to the Aurora. I can obtain a PS/2 to Serial mouse connector but I'm slightly more confused by the Aurora's Keyboard input connector. If i have worked it out correctly ( no guarantee! ), the Aurora's Keyboard connector is quite 'Serial printer port' in appearance ( i.e. large). Does anyone know if there is a PS/2 to 'Aurora Keyboard connector' convertor available and if so, whats it called and where can i obtain one. Once I've crossed this bridge and assuming the KVM switch then works ok, I can move my queries onto what happens when i boot the Aurora up. Cheers Neil *** The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact the company on 01793-715380, then delete it from your system. Please note neither the company nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any) for viruses. No contract may be concluded on behalf of the company by means of email communications. BC Services (UK) Limited (trading as Boxclever), Technology House, Ampthill Road, Bedford, MK42 9QQ. Registered No. 5290544 England www.boxclever.co.uk *** ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Bug?
Hi Is this normal behavior for a 68K processor. I'm doing a word comparison between a memory location and a data register. It seems that data in the most significant word of the register is effecting the result. In the example below the test ends up at notequal. Unfortunately I've not got access to a real CPU to try this on (only QPC). Malcolm start move.l #$,d0 lea test,a4 cmp.w(a4),d0 beq.sequal bra.snotequal test dc.w 0 equal nop notequal nop ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Bug?
On 17 Jan 2007 at 10:17, Malcolm Lear wrote: Hi Is this normal behavior for a 68K processor. Hmm, here (QPC) the test works OK, it branches to the equal label as expected, the Z flag is set by the CMP. Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Bug?
Malcolm Lear wrote: Hi Is this normal behavior for a 68K processor. I'm doing a word comparison between a memory location and a data register. It seems that data in the most significant word of the register is effecting the result. In the example below the test ends up at notequal. Unfortunately I've not got access to a real CPU to try this on (only QPC). Malcolm start move.l #$,d0 lea test,a4 cmp.w(a4),d0 beq.sequal bra.snotequal test dc.w 0 equal nop notequal nop I suspect you have done a fumble(?) - indeed, notequal is always reached... especially via the nop at equal... There /is/ one anomalous .L/.W funny. On a MOVEM.L from memory to registers, all the registers get a (free!) EXT.L done on them. Normal for address registers (a .W operation on one of them /does/ always extend to long before an operation) but a little unusual for data registers. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Bug?
Thanks Wolfgang, I'll investigate further. The code I've got problems with is obviously slightly more complex, but a group of comparisons that failed were fixed by clearing the data register before loading with a word from memory. Malcolm Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: On 17 Jan 2007 at 10:17, Malcolm Lear wrote: Hi Is this normal behavior for a 68K processor. Hmm, here (QPC) the test works OK, it branches to the equal label as expected, the Z flag is set by the CMP. Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Bug?
Malcolm Lear wrote: start move.l #$,d0 lea test,a4 cmp.w(a4),d0 beq.sequal bra.snotequal test dc.w 0 equal nop notequal nop I have no idea what assembler you use, but just by looking at the code let me guess that A4 is off the mark in your binary. Have you checked that A4 is actually pointing to the test label? I guess you might need a (PC) after test, i.e. leatest(pc),a4 Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Sharing Aurora with PC screen/keyboard/mouse
Hi Bob. I shall be in a position to take the Aurora apart and have a look at its innards tomorrow, will look into whats necessary to connect a ps2 keyboard, either a dedicated one or the one being shared from the KVM switch. I don't recall a seeing any way of connecting a PC keyboard to the SuperHermes but again, i will verify tomorrow and see what Tony can do about that. It would appear that the KVM currently draws it's power from the PC ( via the screen cable from PC to KVM) although the Aurora doesn't appear to power the KVM so i guess the SHermes doesn't push power down the cable this is a problem as when the KVM checks for the Aurora, it automatically switches back to the PC, i.e. there is no manual override. I guess, assuming i know how, I could feed power from the Aurora's power line ( +5V ) to the correct connector pin and if this pin is currently bare there shouldn't be an issue. If this pin is already occupied then I wonder what the consequences would be !? As usual, more questions that answers Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17 January 2007 13:23 Op Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:36:29 +0100 schreef Neil Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If i have worked it out correctly ( no guarantee! ), the Aurora's Keyboard connector is quite 'Serial printer port' in appearance ( i.e. large). Does anyone know if there is a PS/2 to 'Aurora Keyboard connector' convertor available and if so, whats it called and where can i obtain one. Hi Neil. Forget about the Aurora keyboard socket. That can be used for a QL membrane but needs a diy interface (See Appendix B from the manual). From earlier emails I understand your Aurora came with a SuperHermes and that is the one to use for a PC type keyboard connector. If the cable from the P2 connector (on SHermes) is missing you can get one from Tony (TFS). For my own Aurora I have made a cable with both DIN and PS2 connectors. 1 - 1 - 1 (clock) 2 - 2 - 3 (data) 3 - 3 - nc (reset) 4 - 4 - 2 (ground) 5 - 5 - 5 (+5V) The first column is the P2 connector, the 2nd is for a DIN (5p/180 deg.) chassis connector and the 3rd is for the PS2 chassis plug. (I use one OR the other) I use a simple VGA/DIN switch box for my two Auroras, I don't switch the mouse (didn't always work) and must often disconnect the keyboard for a few seconds to make it work again (no big problem because the connector is at the front of my Aurora box). Modern KVM switches take their current from the +5V line (can SHermes handle that?) or use a separate power supply (probably saver) but I have not used one for Aurora, only for my PC's. Bob Gemaakt met Opera's revolutionaire e-mailprogramma: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm *** The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact the company on 01793-715380, then delete it from your system. Please note neither the company nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any) for viruses. No contract may be concluded on behalf of the company by means of email communications. BC Services (UK) Limited (trading as Boxclever), Technology House, Ampthill Road, Bedford, MK42 9QQ. Registered No. 5290544 England www.boxclever.co.uk *** ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Using SSSS
On 14 Jan 2007, at 11:14, John Gilpin wrote: I have received during the last three months an article entitled Using for inclusion into QUANTA Magazine. This article is currently sitting in my Next Magazine folder as Sound.docand unfortunately I can't find the name of the author who sent it to me. I am currently working on the magazine and would like to include this article. If you sent it, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF urgently as this issue is already considerably overdue. Thanks. It is probably me. My name is (probably) George Gwilt ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Using SSSS
On 14 Jan 2007, at 11:50, John Gilpin wrote: Almost as soon as I pressed the Send button, I remembered who it was. If you are monitoring the list today, George, thanks for the article. Ah good! I can also confirm that my name is George Gwilt George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Bug?
On 17 Jan 2007, at 10:17, Malcolm Lear wrote: Is this normal behavior for a 68K processor. I'm doing a word comparison between a memory location and a data register. It seems that data in the most significant word of the register is effecting the result. In the example below the test ends up at notequal. Unfortunately I've not got access to a real CPU to try this on (only QPC). Malcolm start move.l #$,d0 lea test,a4 cmp.w(a4),d0 beq.sequal bra.snotequal test dc.w 0 equal nop notequal nop This works absolutely as expected on both a Q60 and QPC2 (latest version). That is, the branch does go to equal. I assume you used QMON or whatever to step through the program else you can't see what is happening. (Why don't you use cmp.w test,d0 instead of lea test,a4 cmp.w (a4),d0 ??) George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Bug?
George Gwilt wrote: This works absolutely as expected on both a Q60 and QPC2 (latest version). That is, the branch does go to equal. I assume you used QMON or whatever to step through the program else you can't see what is happening. There were bugs in the past of QPC that vanished when using a debugger (the instructions used by the debugger did by pure chance clear some internal register a normal code execution did not). But that was over 10 years ago, nowadays the QPC emulation core is so free of bugs that I remain skeptical. But in theory all this IS possible and I never say never. Malcom, just to be sure, what version did you use and does the problem vanish with a version earlier than 3.33? Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Sharing Aurora with PC screen/keyboard/mouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil Riley wrote: Hi Chaps I have hatched a cunning plan to share my PC's Monitor / Keyboard / Mouse with my AURORA. I have a D-Link KVM switch ( 2 way) . Now my problem lies in the PS/2 sockets the KVM switch expects to connect to the Aurora. I can obtain a PS/2 to Serial mouse connector but I'm slightly more confused by the Aurora's Keyboard input connector. If i have worked it out correctly ( no guarantee! ), the Aurora's Keyboard connector is quite 'Serial printer port' in appearance ( i.e. large). Does anyone know if there is a PS/2 to 'Aurora Keyboard connector' convertor available and if so, whats it called and where can i obtain one. Once I've crossed this bridge and assuming the KVM switch then works ok, I can move my queries onto what happens when i boot the Aurora up. Aurora does not have a 'keyboard connector'. It has to use third party hardware, like superHermes, Diren etc that plug into the 8049 slot. A standard AT to PS2 adapter works with superHermes, so I guess that would work with the KVM switch. However sH and Di-ren use a round socket with 5 pins (AT) which is nothing like a 9D (or 25D) serial plug. Describe your socket and interface please Tony - -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFrn9qM3RzOs8+btoRAh9RAJ9WoOwtyCi/jPW+7a1MlQUd92z3NQCfR4UD ar3sLPqSKp8VSDpkNGMUnsQ= =Tbr6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] What is Ornak ?
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:28:00 -, Neil Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rich, You are correct, in faded print i can make out 'Tombs of Ornak' , Has this always been public Domain software, it looks retail to me. Thanks for the info Neil That I do not know - it was originally in a public domain library - how it got there only the sands of time know Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16 January 2007 18:21 It is a good little public domain text adventure - the Lost Tombs of Ornac (available for download on my website) Rich On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:38:35 -, Neil Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I've got a QL program called ORNAK but haven't a clue what it is and am not currently in a position to fire it up on a QL to check. Can anyone remember? Thank you Neil *** The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact the company on 01793-715380, then delete it from your system. Please note neither the company nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any) for viruses. No contract may be concluded on behalf of the company by means of email communications. BC Services (UK) Limited (trading as Boxclever), Technology House, Ampthill Road, Bedford, MK42 9QQ. Registered No. 5290544 England www.boxclever.co.uk *** ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services URL:http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk URL:http://www.rwapservices.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Sharing Aurora with PC screen/keyboard/mouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bob Spelten wrote: Modern KVM switches take their current from the +5V line (can SHermes handle that?) or use a separate power supply (probably saver) but I have not used one for Aurora, only for my PC's. Should do. The sH 5V is connected direct to the QL 5V rail and pcb tracks are large. However I think it takes power from all connected computers, not just the one in use. Tony - -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFroAlM3RzOs8+btoRAqs0AJ9IZhz/bqXXJGwjmBn0CeQxFxAkrQCfUE6a s7KHdVH4opd+h/QJiSmKAWA= =SLfu -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Sharing Aurora with PC screen/keyboard/mouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil Riley wrote: Hi Bob. I shall be in a position to take the Aurora apart and have a look at its innards tomorrow, will look into whats necessary to connect a ps2 keyboard, either a dedicated one or the one being shared from the KVM switch. I don't recall a seeing any way of connecting a PC keyboard to the SuperHermes but again, i will verify tomorrow and see what Tony can do about that. It would appear that the KVM currently draws it's power from the PC ( via the screen cable from PC to KVM) although the Aurora doesn't appear to power the KVM so i guess the SHermes doesn't push power down the cable Of course it does - to power the keyboard it expects at the end. ALl keyboard sockets *have* to do this. this is a problem as when the KVM checks for the Aurora, it automatically switches back to the PC, i.e. there is no manual override. Maybe it needs a working mouse connection too? ... or maybe it is especting some handshake from the 'PC' when it is connected to Aurora and doesn't get the expected response. I guess, assuming i know how, I could feed power from the Aurora's power line ( +5V ) to the correct connector pin and if this pin is currently bare there shouldn't be an issue. If this pin is already occupied then I wonder what the consequences would be !? As usual, more questions that answers Tony - -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFroEBM3RzOs8+btoRArb2AJoCRxXAxFFPYEqiazonVfagS/eowgCePTMZ EHHIyVjvb4WCPbjdSVqu9/Y= =21mh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
