[tslug] Re: the LUG's new name
Jason Miller wrote: Hey everyone, What will TSLUG's new official name be, now that the University says no student organization can begin it's name with Truman State...? This was brought up at yesterday's meeting, and while we bandied about such names as !TSLUG and similar jokes, the final decision was to not make one at the moment. I beleive that Dr Bindner and Alex are looking into the exact details of the policy change, and once they've got a handle on it, a call for nominations for new names will be issued. Once a few have come in, an email based (I believe) vote will be conducted. -- Peter Snoblin - http://entropicaccess.net/ - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: the LUG's new name
Donald J Bindner wrote: Nominations and seconds will be accepted on the mailing list from now until Monday afternoon at 5pm (September 6). On Monday evening, I will draft a ballot of eligible entries and post it to the list. One question to ask about the new name is, do we want to retain Linux in our name? I ask for two reasons. First, we've gotten flack from certain people (coughRMScough) about not being GNU/Linux. Secondly, it seems to me that Linux isn't our soul focus. We range the whole gambit of computer related topics, with a large focus on UNIX and UNIX-like operating systems (or POSIX or whatever the term de jour is) as well as Free software (or FOSS or FLOSS, again take your pic of terms ;-) ). It might be a good idea to take these ideas into account. Towards that end, I'd like to nominate one idea that came up last night (and I appologize to whomever floated the idea for not crediting him, I simply can't remember who it was): FSA, the Free Software Association. -- Peter Snoblin - http://entropicaccess.net/ - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: the LUG's new name
iosif wrote (Thursday 02 September 2004 11:15 pm): 2. for those who don't get the principle: Phi Sigma Pi, often abbreviated (in both writing and the spoken language) PSP, Pan-Hellenic Council is shortened to NPC, and the Public Broadcasting Service and National Broadcasting Company are of course PBS and NBC. no vowels. they're fine. where did this fixation on vowels spring up? For those who miss the point, by spelling it out, vowels are INTRODUCED. pEE ess pEE. en pEE cEE. pEE bEE ess. en bEE cEE. Now do you see? Additionally, this fixation on vowels comes from being an English speaker. Nt hvng thm mks thngs bt hrd t ndrstnd, ys? 3. those who don't know what the FSCK means will in about 10 seconds, after which they will have *learned something*. The fallacy here revolves around the people who will never see an explanation. Unless you want to put something like this on every thing that bears FSCK: * File System Checker, a well known UNIX/UNIX like Operating System tool. A bit awkward, yes? 4. sorry if FSCK is somehow a detriment to anyone's image. *shrug* To each, his own. As I clearly said, that was just my personal feeling on a name that quickly calls profanity to mind. 5. this resume nonsense has got to stop. Free Software Club in Kirksville, even abbreviated (which should never ever happen on a resume anyway) FSCK, is not some sine qua non for failing to get a job, even in a magical contingency world of horrors. I didn't say OMGWTF You won't get a job if we make the name FSCK!!!11 Just trying to draw a fairly realistic scenario in which the name could be seen as a detriment. 6. FSA is already taken: Federal Student Aid, Farm Security/Service Administration/Agency, Finite State Automaton...KAFS is better but without the media-genic charm and all the aesthetics of a soviet worker housing block. KLUG has something going for it, but still leaves the whole linux/gnu issue in place. FSCK is the most beautiful in solving all these problems. You forgot Fabless Semiconductor Association. And Full Speed Ahead. And The Financial Services Authority. And Food Standards Agency. But, I'm really failing to see what FSA has to do with this. I'm not saying N Don't pick FSCK! Then the option that I nominated can't win! OH NOEZ! I'm just saying that there are some serious concerns about the name that need to be addressed. However, I'll still take the opertunity to say, So what? to your FSA points. It's not like we have anything to do with agriculture or student aid. Or fabless semiconductors. Et cetera. I have to confess I don't really see anything communist or soviet about KAFS, but, *shrugs.* I'll give you, FSCK is a good name, in a lot of regards. Its catchy, it means something, and all the other things that have been pointed out. But at the same time, it introduces a lot of potential problems. Sorry if I'm coming off a bit abbrasively. It's late, I'm tired. And I'm trying hard to not react to what seems to me, at least, to be a fairly confrontational tone... -- Peter Snoblin - http://entropicaccess.net/ - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Club activity this year?
So, to further and extend Caleb's previous question, what's up with this year? I ask both in terms of projects as well as regular meetings. I assume (and hope!) that we'll have weekly or every-other-week meetings again, as well as an install fest or two or three. So, I guess what I'm asking in another way is this, Who's in charge 'round these parts? ;) Hopefully, I'll see some or all of you around in the next few days. -- Peter Snoblin - http://entropicaccess.net/ - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: Kernel 2.6.0
You need to emerge alsa-utils. It will provide you with an alsasound init script that will save and restore mixer levels on halt/boot. On Thursday 18 December 2003 12:07 am, Ian Monroe burbled: I've been using 2.6-test11 primarily for the last couple of weeks. For the desktop user I think the most noticeable change are the new sound drivers, ALSA. The old OSS still exists, as well as an OSS compatibility layer for ALSA. My experience with ALSA is that it gives me a little too much power. In my experience with my Sound Blaster Live! emu10k1 card, by default, no sound was coming out. I opened up alsamixer and fixed that. But it sounded kind of flat and voices were quiet in comparison to other sounds. I fiddled around with the literally dozens of options now in alsamixer and now it works fine. I hope now with ALSA in widespread use there will be some develop of a just-make-it-sound-good auto config thing. The commercial distros will probably write scripts to setup it up right. -- Peter Snoblin - http://entropicaccess.net/ - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Mandrake 9.1 isos
I just fetched the Mandrake 9.1 isos. They're available at http://rillanon/mandrake91/mandrake9.1/ (only available from on campus, sorry). Share and enjoy! -- Peter Snoblin - http://www2.truman.edu/~pas577/ - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: Mandrake 9.1 isos
Thats actually how I got both these and the Redhat ones earlier this week. I'm just hosting them for a short time on the campus network as thats faster than bittorrent. And I definately agree, bittorrent is very cool. To save people a quick googling the url is http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/ On Friday 04 April 2003 12:57 pm, Benjamin Story burbled: You all might try bittorrent too. It's awesome at getting ISOs, they have the newest Mandrake and RedHat ISOs available. The program is available on Freshmeat and it even automatically confirms md5sums for you. There is also a windows version for people that need the isos before ditching Windows. -- Peter Snoblin - http://www2.truman.edu/~pas577/ - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: IPv6 configuration script
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 07:50 pm, Donald J Bindner burbled:
This is the script from the talk tonight: /etc/init.d/local-ipv6.
For any Gentoo users, I modified the init script to be gentoo-esque.
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-- File: ipv6
#!/sbin/runscript
# This is a sample script for connecting to the 6bone via
# generic relay
opts=${opts} information
myip=$(ip addr show dev eth0 | sed -n 's/^.*inet \([0-9\.]*\).*$/\1/p')
addr=$(printf 2002:%x%x:%x%x::1\n $(echo $myip | tr . ) )
depend() {
need net
}
start() {
ebegin Setting up IPv6 tunnel
ip tunnel add tun6to4 mode sit ttl 255 remote any local $myip
ip link set dev tun6to4 up
ip -6 addr add $addr/16 dev tun6to4
ip -6 route add 2000::/3 via ::192.88.99.1 dev tun6to4 metric 1
eend $?
}
stop() {
ebegin Tearing down IPv6 tunnel
ip link set dev tun6to4 down
ip tunnel del tun6to4
eend $?
}
information() {
ip -6 tunnel show
ip -6 route show dev tun6to4
}
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[tslug] Re: Installfest and etc...
When is the install fest (like time when, not date when)? Also, where is it? I figure it might be good to know that before I start this publicity thingy. On Thursday 06 February 2003 12:44 pm, Nathaniel Green burbled: We decided to move the installfest back two weeks to Saturday the 22nd of February 2003. This will allow time for a room to be reserved, advertisements to be distributed, and PartitionMagic to arrive. Also, if you are planning on coming to the installfest that Saturday, we will be having a meeting the Wednesday before it, on the 19th of February. It would be a very good idea for you to join us that Wednesday, as we will be discussing some preparatory steps for the installfest. -- Peter Snoblin - http://www2.truman.edu/~pas577/ - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Truman network and linux
Hey all, I've started working on a document to help get people new to Linux and, possibly, the Truman network up to speed. You can find it at http://www2.truman.edu/~pas577/docs/docman.php?doc=Truman_FAQ.htmf Currently it's got a note about the WINS/DNS thing, various services that we have but are generally not known (eg we have an NTP server. who knew?), and setting up CUPS to print to the network printers. This is still very much a work in progress, and as such any sort of comments you have would be of value (and, yes, I know I can't spel vry wel). Oh, and KDE 3.1, wow. That's really all I can say. -- Peter Snoblin - http://www2.truman.edu/~pas577/ - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: solaris / project idea
I was thinking Debian, for a few reasons. First is that its what I know better, secondly it would help users avoid the dependency hell that strikes all rpm based installs after awhile, and finally it would be pretty easy to maintain an on campus apt source for it. (my appologies for the screwy =20 thing in my first message, KDE ate my KMail config. again. I think I have it fixed now.) On Thursday 23 January 2003 09:16 pm, you wrote: I think that that is a great idea. There are a lot of little little gotchas with the truman network. It might also be useful to include some sample iptables scripts that would help new users to secure their machines. Mandrake's default configuration of CUPS has been a thorn in my side for a couple of years now. It looks like they have secured it more in version 9.0 though. Before that if I didn't remember to edit it after an install/update it would accept jobs for an arbitrary machine on the network. Some special documentation might also be useful. I've written a rudimentary Introduction to Linux (http://www.brandonchisham.com/online_books/), this could easily be adapted to include some Truman specific stuff. It would probably be good to start with something very flexible like Gentoo or Debian, so that a higher level of customization could be achieved. Brandon -- Peter Snoblin - http://www2.truman.edu/~pas577/ - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: getting hostname.truman.edu to resolve
To get into the Truman DNS you need to have samba properly set up to use = the=20 local WINS server (I have the sneaking suspision that that is redundant..= =2E).=20 But anywho, you need to add this line to /etc/samba/smb.conf: wins server =3D 150.243.160.1 After that restart samba (consult the appropriate documentation for your=20 distro on how to that) and wait about five minutes for the WINS server to= =20 sync with the DNS server, after that you should be in. Also, you might want to add this line to /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost hostname Where hostname is your hostname. That way if the DNS ever goes down, yo= u=20 will still be able to resolve your own machine. On Friday 17 January 2003 04:18 pm, Steve Olree burbled: I can't seem to figure out how to get my hostname.truman.edu to resol= ve to my IP address in linux. Not exactly sure how complicated it is, but anyone want to explain how to do this? --=20 Peter Snoblin - http://www2.truman.edu/~pas577/ - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: Sound Card Advice
Just to get my two cents in, I too have an SB Live! 5.1 and have been very happy with it. It works perfectly under Linux, especially given the lack of the crappy Creative software. On Monday 09 December 2002 09:57 pm, you wrote: I just bought a SB Live 5.1 off of ebay for $40. Some wholesaler has a ton of them. That would be a good pick. EMU10k is pretty well supported. -Bill - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe - -- Peter Snoblin - http://www2.truman.edu/~pas577/ - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Meeting tomorrow?
Do we have a meeting tomorrow? I apologize if this was addressed, but my email was acting up and it appears I missed a few messages. -- Peter Snoblin - http://www2.truman.edu/~pas577/ - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Idea for a meeting
I just had an idea for something we could do at a meeting. We could have a gpg, for lack of a better word, thing. It could involve helping people generate keys, if they don't already have them, and then having a key signing. -- Peter Snoblin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://quantumandroid.webhop.org/ aim: CHA1512 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] () ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML email and needless attachments /\ If I wanted HTML I would visit your webpage - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: 3 KASIM VE BIZ
What? who? huh? Is this stupidity, malfunction, or a poor attempt at spam? On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 19:20, Genç Parti wrote: IMG] -- Peter Snoblin http://www2.truman.edu/~pas577 http://strangefun.dyndns.org:8080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: CHA1512 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: problems with red hat...
It looks like your network card should be a simple tulip card. Try typing, as root, insmod tulip. However there may be some pcmcia trickery needed that I don't know about (actually I need to study up on pcmcia...). But anyway give that a try. Without knowing what kind of soundcard you have I can't really help you. On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 21:20, Christopher White wrote: I recently switched to Linux from Windows 98, but there are a few problems I have yet to work out. First of all, my IBM EtherJet PCMCIA card does not have a linux driver, and I can't figure out how to obtain one and make it work. Second of all, it doesn't recognize my sound card. I would greatly appreciate any help I could get with these problems. I am a neophyte, so you'll have to go easy on my. Chris -- Peter Snoblin http://www2.truman.edu/~pas577 http://strangefun.dyndns.org:8080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: CHA1512 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: Free Software Idea
I haven't used alpha2 much, but I can attest that it starts and logs in on win2k. However I did use alpha1 a fair bit without much trouble, and I would assume that it only got better. Also, gaim is very stable in linux, so there is no problem with the actual code base. On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 20:31, Donald J Bindner wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 03:53:43PM -0500, Peter Snoblin wrote: gAIM (an instant messenger client, talks pretty much every protocol you can think of - http://gaim.sf.net), The gaim binary for Windows is marked as 0.60.0-alpha2 Anyone have any idea whether this is ready for mere mortals? -- Don Bindner [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Peter Snoblin http://www2.truman.edu/~pas577 http://strangefun.dyndns.org:8080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: CHA1512 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: cafepress.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nathaniel Green wrote, amongst other things: PS - If anyone wants to volunteer to give a talk for next week, or wants to chase someone down who will, talk to me :) Its not really a talk, nor totally linux related, but I got my NeXTStation (in case anyone doesn't know, NeXTs run a variation of BSD) and if someone can help me lug it over I'd be happy to show it off. (I just live in Ryle, so its not far). - -- Peter Snoblin http://quantumandroid.webhop.org/ http://strangefun.dyndns.org:8080/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: CHA1512 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE9o5W86bAd4ZUmLH0RAvNZAJ45UQR9KJTfr8TgtAfQ64ztkv7PyQCfSqqG MBsQfQD6/hxYgg+v/XFRb2c= =GV3s -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: RH 8.0 Soundcard Blues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What are the permissions on /dev/dsp? You can find out using either stat /dev/dsp or ls -l /dev/dsp (without quotes of course). Ideally permissions should be 666, also known as crw-rw-rw- (and yes I know this is not the most secure, however on a single use machine its fine). If they aren't you can change them using chmod 666 /dev/dsp. Failing that, make sure the proper module is loaded using lsmod. I think the module for your card is es1370. If its not loaded you can load it using insmod es1370. And just to cover all posiblities, your speakers are on right? (don't worry, I've done much dumber things) Hope that helps somewhat. Jordan Morren wrote: I installed RH 8.0 on Thursday and everything's been working great except I cannot get my sound card to work. I have an Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI sound card which is supposed to be supported, and it is detected, but no such luck with the sound. There's no test sound, no CD sound, no system sound or anything. I've checked and rechecked all the connections to make sure everything's plugged in correctly and still nothing. Any ideas? Thanks for any help! ~Jordan Morren x4878 - -- Peter Snoblin http://quantumandroid.webhop.org/ http://strangefun.dyndns.org:8080/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: CHA1512 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE9ohDR6bAd4ZUmLH0RAgpcAJ9McfprCz8xzp8o/vN6VCZ3RTyd6ACfaJlT LHB/PCWkPS6EhZIuXGI9mpc= =xj3N -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] on campus email server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just noticed something very odd, my box on the campus network is running a mail server that can, if the firewall allowed it, send and recieve mail from the outside world. However, I was under the impression that said firewall disallowed that, in fact I even tested it at the begining of the year to no avail. Yet now it works. Anyone know anything about this? Will it continue to work or is this just an oversite on someones part? - -- Peter Snoblin http://quantumandroid.webhop.org/ http://strangefun.dyndns.org:8080/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: CHA1512 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE9nMpg6bAd4ZUmLH0RAu13AKC0dHHzkhc0QgBNV1/atMrgBcfAiACePcTN YRk7MyHroPlEkXCtufyiD1k= =TJSd -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Redhat network
Just occured to me that the people who installed RedHat on their machines may be interested in the free educational subscription that RedHat offers for the RedHat Network. For those who don't know, RHN is a service that allows you to update your system with security updates over the internet. It would probablly be a good idea to register with the service, and you can do this here: https://rhn.redhat.com/newlogin/create_education.pxt After doing this, run the command up2date. Peter Snoblin -- Attached file included as plaintext by Listar -- -- File: signature.asc -- Desc: This is a digitally signed message part -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA9jhXB6bAd4ZUmLH0RAn/IAJ9Y9Rc2Jca/osVVijdAKa8hMplVVwCgv1wD L9kGcl//Psy5WDzrvSEcjVQ= =R2cN -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Local Security Outline
To those who are interested, you can find a bit more information on local system security in my outline, available at http://www2.truman.edu/~pas577/Linux%20Security/security.html. Hopefully this will be a little better than my talk. Also, I will probablly update it after I get a chance to try out some of the kernel security extensions (which may be awhile, I decided to upgrade from gcc2.95 to gcc3.2 and am in the process of rebuilding nearly every program on my system.) With luck I should have that update within a week. Also, I may add something about working with RAM disks. Peter Snoblin -- To unsubscribe or change your membership options to this list, please use the interface at http://mtcs.truman.edu/cgi-bin/listargate.cgi. --
[tslug] Re: InstallFest (!)
I'd be more than willing to help out if noone else wants to take it, should be fairly convienient as I also am in Ryle (368). As it turns out I can be at the install fest the whole time! woohoo! Ashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nate, Dr.Beck told me to get a hold of you. I want to put Lenox on my computer and keep my windows too. Could you ask if there would be someone willing to help me prepare my computer for InstallFest? I have no idea what I need to do to get it ready. I'd appreciate your help. Thanks Ashley Murdock 145 Ryle Hall x5720 -- To unsubscribe or change your membership options to this list, please use the interface at http://mtcs.truman.edu/cgi-bin/listargate.cgi. --
[tslug] Re: FTP Weirdness Extra info
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just ftp'd into jessica-chapman.com and logged in as anonymous and was able to pull a directory listing (just one folder, incoming) in both windows and linux. Based off that, I'd hazard a guess to say the problem is on your end. I'd again hazard a guess that if you are running a firewall you could be blocking a needed port, but I have no idea what that could be (I think active ftp uses 20 for something...). Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Peter Snoblin Brandon Chisham wrote: I just tried logging into another domain that I own jessica-chapman.com, and enountered the same difficulties. I can ftp to my truman webspace without any trouble. --B.C. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use http://www.nai.com iQA/AwUBPYCX5P1TZRsvCt7JEQILCwCdEp8wflgrQCQaqPOfPDJ60RLrQ2cAoPGt EqHsB2sQllOo/q13GkRh3qL2 =Wu9w -END PGP SIGNATURE-
