CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-02-27 Thread Marc Aurele La France
CVSROOT:/home/x-cvs
Module name:xc
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/02/27 14:19:21

Log message:
  Low-impact bug fix.  So low, in fact, that there's not much point in commiting
  this to 4.3's stable branch.

Modified files:
  xc/lib/font/util/:
private.c 
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.9   +4 -3  xc/lib/font/util/private.c

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CVS Update: www (branch: trunk)

2003-02-27 Thread David Dawes
CVSROOT:/home/x-cvs
Module name:www
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/02/27 14:55:10

Log message:
  update 4.3.0 release info

Modified files:
  ./:
index.html 
Added files:
  ./:
rel430.html 
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.97  +7 -10 www/index.html

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Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 05:06:48PM -0800, Kendall Bennett wrote:
 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Feigning erudition, Kendall Bennett wrote:
  % Hi Guys,
  % 
  % Is thete any documentation on the XRENDER extension and more specifically 
  % the Matrox implementation of it? Do any other drivers other than the 
  % Matrox driver implement this extension?
  
  http://www.xfree86.org/~keithp/render/
  
  $XFREE86ROOT/lib/X11/doc/render-protocol.txt
 
 Awesome, thanks! That gives a bit more information, but it doesn't really 
 describe how the XAA drivers can accelerate the XRENDER extension. It 

Yes, it would indeed be great if the XAA.HOWTO would be expanded by a
new paragraph speaking about the XRENDER acceleration hooks. There is
already the xaa.h which gives some info, but a discution of the hooks
would be welcome.

Friendly,

Sven Luther

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Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:40:18PM -0500, David Dawes wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:25:21PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:27:50PM +0200, Yitzhak Bar Geva wrote:
  Greatly encouraged by your response, thanks!
  
  Someone reported that X works with the multi-head console  support
  in Linux 2.5 kernels.
  
  I did some searching for multi-head consoles under 2.5 kernel, but
  didn't see anything. I would be highly appreciative if you could give me
  some pointers. As far as I could see, the Linux Console Project is
  defunct, but there is definitely work on multiple input devices going
  on.
 
 The correct place is the linux-fbdev project on sourceforge, especially
 their mailing list, James Simmon is the main developper of the new
 console code, and you have to look into the late 2.5.5x at least to get
 working stuff.
 
 That said, XFree86 people don't like fbdev much, and anyway, i don't
 
 Not necessarily :-)  I recently wrote an fbdev driver for Intel 830M
 and later chipsets (www.xfree86.org/~dawes/intelfb.html, and it should
 be in new -ac kernels).  It was fun doing some graphics stuff outside
 of XFree86 for a change.  It's basically a 2.4.x driver right now, and
 still needs to be ported to the latest 2.5.6x fbdev interfaces.

Well, the 2.5.x drivers (the new API) are a lot easier to write, since a
lot of common stuff has been abstracted. I have plans to write a HOWTO
or something once i get time for it again.

Friendly,

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Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 05:12:32PM -0600, jkjellman wrote:
 Absolutely right, but ...
 
 This can be done if two servers are used.  The point I was making earlier in
 this thread was that used hacked kernels and servers are a bad thing.  If
 two consoles (including keyboards) could be operated on a single box, then
 two separate X servers could also be run.  The biggest problem is not the
 display, but rather that both X and Linux have a single console keyboard
 ingrained in their code.
 
 Any thoughts on how this might be circumvented using existing pieces?

The new fbdev API and console layer should handle this just fine, not
that i have personal experience with it, but that seemed to be the
intention from what i followed in the linux-fbdev mailing list.

Friendly,

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Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 10:47:39PM +, Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
  How do you imagine this would work when both head are using a
  shared accel (XAA or DRI) engine ?
 
 I thought that the whole point of the kernel DRI was to stop multiple apps
 from fighting over the hardware. If the X server and several libGL apps

Well, it is more like multiple OpenGL X clients and the X drivers
themselves. I don't hear of anyone running DRI on fbdev and X alongside
each other, and all the stuff is initialized inside the X driver anyway.

 can share the hardware, adding another X server should be possible.

It is not as simple, since for one chip driving two screens, there are
some things that can only be done chip wide, and others that can be done
separatedly on each head. Also, i think the DRI only bothers about the
3D engine, not really about things like mode setup and so. And even
(onchip) memory management is not (yet) well separated. There is a
proposal for DRI about that from Ian Romanick, but it does only concern
the DRI, and it is not clear if the OS memory manager can be made to
work with it also, or how.

 For it to work nicely the proposed extension to RandR which allows the 
 frame-buffer to be re-arranged (remember that we have dropped on the fly
 trade off between depth and number of pixels from 4.3) would help,

Mmm, there is another discution in the DRI mailing list about dual head
with a single framebuffer, where i think RandR could be used to do one
the fly head re-organization. But again, i don't really believe that
this would help out if we plan to have two separate users, one on each
head/seat/whatever.

 and I think we would want something (probably fbdev) to share out the 
 frame-buffer.

The fbdev and the drm would work, i think. You would use the fbdev for
mode setting and such, and the drm for acceleration, the fbdev has not
enough logic for it right now. but again, the fbdev and the drm don't
cooperate very well, especially since the drm is initialized from the X
driver.

 I suppose we could go the other way, and do two seats
 within one X server.

Is this possible ? Not currently i guess, but it is a feature asked for
since some time, for doing cheap terminals, instead of having one cheap
box driving one terminal, you would driver two with it, thus almost
halving the cost. That said, if one head crashes, the other goes too.

 I'd want one seat to be called say machine:0 and the other machine:1
 ie listen on two sockets/ports.
 This would definitely be a case for two pointers and two sets of focus
 (which people seem to want for other reasons).
 Would the window scheduling be good enough to ensure that one seat
 can't consume all the cycles ?
 I'd be particularly worried that information could leak between seat.
 Do we use separate threads (or processes) for each seat;
 someone recently mentioned that the server isn't thread-safe.
 Conceptually I feel that all this should be left to the kernel,
 and we should run a separate X server for each seat.

Lot of good questions ...

BTW, Dawes, what are the plans for post 4.3.0 XFree86 ? This kind of
thing would most assuredly go into the thinking about 5.x, but some of
the stuff here, and about the dual-head/one FB (which would allow DRI on
dual head cards) could also be implemented in the current setting.

Friendly,

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Re: ATI with cvs

2003-02-27 Thread dunk
 ati isn't a driver, it is a wrapper around the other 3 real ATI 
 drivers.  The correct driver for any Radeon based chip is 
 radeon.  Using the ati driver wrapper merely autodetects the 
 card and calls the radeon driver.  Either should work, but 
 using radeon removes one level of indirection.

wow! never new that - thanks for the tip

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xf86cfg: ERROR SIGSEGV caught!

2003-02-27 Thread Stefan Dirsch
Hi

Looks like xf86cfg in 4.2.99.902 (most likely also 4.3.0) is
broken. At least I see now messages like this.

[...]
Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a
Module GLcore: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.99.902, module version = 1.0.0
  ERROR SIGSEGV caught!
[...]

It also happens for each input and graphics driver. It might be
related to this change:

 940. Allow xf86setjmp/xf86setlongjmp to work with platforms where
  setjmp() isn't directly available as a function, specifically Linux
  platforms that use glibc 2.0 and 2.1. (David Dawes, Keith Packard).

I tried to adjust xf86cfg to this change but failed for now. Maybe
David or Keith can have a look at this issue?

Best regards,
Stefan

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date.def

2003-02-27 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
xc/config/cf/Imakefile now refers to date.def, and xfree86.cf includes
it, but I can't find it in the latest CVS, nor can I find a rule which 
builds it on the fly.

Without this file make World does very little.

The Imakefile change appears to be before the 4.2 tag, so we may need
to add the file to both branches ?

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Re: date.def

2003-02-27 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 12:55:21 +, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
 xc/config/cf/Imakefile now refers to date.def, and xfree86.cf includes
 it, but I can't find it in the latest CVS, nor can I find a rule which 
 builds it on the fly.
 
 Without this file make World does very little.
 
 The Imakefile change appears to be before the 4.2 tag, so we may need
 to add the file to both branches ?

The rule to build it is in xc/Makefile.

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Re: date.def

2003-02-27 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Alan Hourihane wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 12:55:21 +, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
  xc/config/cf/Imakefile now refers to date.def, and xfree86.cf includes
  it, but I can't find it in the latest CVS, nor can I find a rule which 
  builds it on the fly.
  
  Without this file make World does very little.
  
  The Imakefile change appears to be before the 4.2 tag, so we may need
  to add the file to both branches ?
 
 The rule to build it is in xc/Makefile.

Thanks.

It seems that my xc/Imakefile and xc/Makefile
are not being updated by cvs -q update -A -d in the directory
above xc, although I am successfully cvsup'ing xc/Imakefile,v

I cvsup collections
cvs-base/cvs
cvs-src/cvs
and
xc-all/cvs
Am I missing something to control the bootstrap ?

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Re: xf86cfg: ERROR SIGSEGV caught!

2003-02-27 Thread David Dawes
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 12:35:57PM +0100, Stefan Dirsch wrote:
Hi

Looks like xf86cfg in 4.2.99.902 (most likely also 4.3.0) is
broken. At least I see now messages like this.

[...]
Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a
Module GLcore: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.99.902, module version = 1.0.0
  ERROR SIGSEGV caught!
[...]

It also happens for each input and graphics driver. It might be
related to this change:

 940. Allow xf86setjmp/xf86setlongjmp to work with platforms where
  setjmp() isn't directly available as a function, specifically Linux
  platforms that use glibc 2.0 and 2.1. (David Dawes, Keith Packard).

I tried to adjust xf86cfg to this change but failed for now. Maybe
David or Keith can have a look at this issue?

If you tried backing out that change and the problems still shows up,
then it's something else.  Did you try backing it out?

David
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Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Keith Packard
Around 9 o'clock on Feb 27, Sven Luther wrote:

 Yes, it would indeed be great if the XAA.HOWTO would be expanded by a
 new paragraph speaking about the XRENDER acceleration hooks. There is
 already the xaa.h which gives some info, but a discution of the hooks
 would be welcome.

The current Render acceleration hooks are pretty low level; we need to 
spend some time designing a more comprehensive interface.  The trouble is 
that Render provides so little structure to build upon, unlike the core 
protocol.

We can place additional structure inside the render code and XAA to break 
down the current interface into more reasonable functions.  However, it's 
hard to get excited about building accelerated implementations without a 
comprehensive test suite and when the spec is still a bit in flux.  I've 
been working on the test suite with some students, but there's a steep 
learning curve and so not much progress has been made yet.  

The spec is almost finished as well; I've got to go rewrite the trapezoid
specification to match our current thinking and I'd like to add some image
transport requests.  The trapezoid part won't have much of an effect on 
the architecture of any acceleration internals, but image transport may 
need to be exposed all the way to the bottom of the system.

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Re: repeated X restarts with i810 not freeing sys resources?

2003-02-27 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, David Dawes wrote:

 Yep, RH7.3 with its default kernel plus the agpgart driver referenced
 above.  Could you try your setup using that agpgart driver?  That
 might help narrow down if the problem lies there or elsewhere.  I
 don't see how the problem could be anywhere other than the kernel
 or agpgart driver.

I guess I'll need to try this same kernel.

I downloaded the 2.4.20-2.21 kernel source rpm from RH's phoebe beta.
I can get the kernel to build, but not modules.  So, I built the agpgart
driver into the kernel and tested it that way.  I can reproduce what
you're seeing with this kernel.

I also tried the stock 2.4.20 kernel from ftp.kernel.org, and it works
fine, and doesn't show the problem you're seeing.

So, it looks like some difference between RH's kernel and the stock
kernel.  You'll have to follow that up further with Red Hat (or use a
kernel from ftp.kernel.org).

This problem has since been reported for mga, and other hardware
also, and we've suspected it to be something specific to our
kernel as well.  Last night Arjan Van de Ven tracked the problem
down to a refcount bug in rmap with respect to PageReserved
pages. DRM marks it's pages as PageReserved and was affected by
this bug.

The bugfix is in our latest internal kernel build now, and 
confirmed working on several systems which showed this 
problematic behaviour.

I thought I'd pass the info around to the list that the issue is
resolved now.


Thanks,
TTYL

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Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Kendall Bennett
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Yes, it would indeed be great if the XAA.HOWTO would be expanded by a
  new paragraph speaking about the XRENDER acceleration hooks. There is
  already the xaa.h which gives some info, but a discution of the hooks
  would be welcome.
 
 The current Render acceleration hooks are pretty low level; we
 need to spend some time designing a more comprehensive interface. 
 The trouble is that Render provides so little structure to build
 upon, unlike the core protocol. 

Ok, so it is a little early yet to start implementing this in our 
drivers? Or should we just implement what the Matrox driver is doing and 
follow that model for now (ie: just alpha blits)?

 We can place additional structure inside the render code and XAA
 to break down the current interface into more reasonable
 functions.  However, it's hard to get excited about building
 accelerated implementations without a comprehensive test suite and
 when the spec is still a bit in flux.  I've been working on the
 test suite with some students, but there's a steep learning curve
 and so not much progress has been made yet.  

Ok. What stuff other than alpha blits (for fonts and menus) does XRENDER 
provide anyway? I am a little unclear on that right now.

Also I have been wondering about the accelerated anti-aliased text. Is 
all anti-aliased text in XFree86 done via the XRENDER extension and alpha 
blits? It is possible to implement accelerated anti-aliased text using 
simple 4-8 levels of mono bitmap blits using FreeType (that is what we 
used for it in our MGL graphics library). It is slower than regular text 
(and probably slower than alpha blits in hardware), but way faster than 
doing alpha blits in software when there is a hardware mono blit function 
to use. Has anyone considered using that style of interface for anti-
aliased text in XFree86?

Regards,

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Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Keith Packard
Around 10 o'clock on Feb 27, Kendall Bennett wrote:

 Ok, so it is a little early yet to start implementing this in our 
 drivers? Or should we just implement what the Matrox driver is doing and 
 follow that model for now (ie: just alpha blits)?

I think the interfaces currently provided by XAA will probably remain 
usable, so you might as well implement them.

 Ok. What stuff other than alpha blits (for fonts and menus) does XRENDER 
 provide anyway? I am a little unclear on that right now.

Render does three things:

1) Image compositing

2) Trapezoids (and triangles)

3) Glyphs

However, the image compositing function has a lot of functionality buried
inside, including projective image transformations, solid fills and tiling.
Plus, trapezoids and glyphs are defined in terms of image compositing, so
in the MI implementation, they are implemented on top of the basic
Composite function.

My thought is that we'll want to have the XAA 'Composite' function 
recognise some common operations (like solid fill and screen-screen blt 
and perhaps others) and call out to driver functions designed for that 
specific operation.  Plus, we should have XAA expose special higher level 
functions for glyph rendering to the driver so that the graphics card can 
use the higher level data structures to speed this operation, rather than 
having the MI layer break the text operation into a (long) sequence of 
primitive Composite operations.

 Also I have been wondering about the accelerated anti-aliased text. Is 
 all anti-aliased text in XFree86 done via the XRENDER extension and alpha 
 blits? It is possible to implement accelerated anti-aliased text using 
 simple 4-8 levels of mono bitmap blits using FreeType (that is what we 
 used for it in our MGL graphics library).

Yes, all AA text is done with the Render glyph operations which are defined
in terms of the basic image composition primitive.  Once you have hardware 
acceleration for image compositing, that's going to be a lot faster than 
any non-standard rendering path.

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Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Kendall Bennett
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think the interfaces currently provided by XAA will probably remain 
 usable, so you might as well implement them.

Ok.

 Plus, we should have XAA expose special higher level functions for
 glyph rendering to the driver so that the graphics card can use the
 higher level data structures to speed this operation, rather than
 having the MI layer break the text operation into a (long) sequence
 of primitive Composite operations. 

Yes, most definitely. The current mechanism is not exactly efficient, and 
in fact is the reason why I want to hook some functions at a higher level 
so we can make this faster.

Also when it comes to rendering text, one of the fastest ways of doing 
this is the way that OS/2 does it. Instead of caching any glyphs in 
offscreen video memory (terribly wasteful of offscreen video memory and 
no faster than using system memory bitmaps), you maintain a single large 
bitmap that matches the physical resolution of the screen (ie: 1280x1024 
mono bitmap). When you need to draw text, you render the text into the 
mono bitmap in software at the necessary place on the screen, and when 
that is done pass the entire bitmap to be drawn to the hardware with a 
clip rectangle that covers just the text you just rendered into the 
bitmap. The clipping is real easy to do in the software setup stages for 
text rendering, and then you can blit the entire string to the hardware 
in one shot.

So fast, efficient text could be done in XFree86 if a single function was 
used to transfer an entire bitmap in the driver code (pre-clipping could 
easily be done before the driver code is called), and some high level 
code to maintain and render the glyphs into the pre-allocated large 
bitmap.

  Also I have been wondering about the accelerated anti-aliased text. Is 
  all anti-aliased text in XFree86 done via the XRENDER extension and alpha 
  blits? It is possible to implement accelerated anti-aliased text using 
  simple 4-8 levels of mono bitmap blits using FreeType (that is what we 
  used for it in our MGL graphics library).
 
 Yes, all AA text is done with the Render glyph operations which
 are defined in terms of the basic image composition primitive. 
 Once you have hardware acceleration for image compositing, that's
 going to be a lot faster than any non-standard rendering path. 

Granted, if you have hardware alpha blits that will be the fastest way to 
do this. But if you don't have hardware alpha blits (and lots of cards 
supported by XFree86 do not), you can still speed up anti-aliased text 
quite a lot by using a 4 or 8 level scheme using multiple mono bitmaps.

Regards,

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Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Keith Packard
Around 11 o'clock on Feb 27, Kendall Bennett wrote:

 So fast, efficient text could be done in XFree86 if a single function was 
 used to transfer an entire bitmap in the driver code (pre-clipping could 
 easily be done before the driver code is called), and some high level 
 code to maintain and render the glyphs into the pre-allocated large 
 bitmap.

That's how Render does text today, except that it allocates the temporary 
bitmap on the fly (which isn't a big deal with modern malloc 
implementations).  Monochrome bitmaps the size of the screen are one 
thing, but 32bpp bitmaps at screen size are a bit large to keep around for 
this purpose (yes, Render glyphs really are 32bpp on LCD screens).

 Granted, if you have hardware alpha blits that will be the fastest way to 
 do this. But if you don't have hardware alpha blits (and lots of cards 
 supported by XFree86 do not), you can still speed up anti-aliased text 
 quite a lot by using a 4 or 8 level scheme using multiple mono bitmaps.

I suppose, but it wouldn't be compatible with the Render semantics.  If
I'd heard users complaining about text performance, I'd be more interested.
Plus, the number of users with cards that can't support image compositing 
is rapidly declining; essentially any card that has even the smallest 
amount of acceleration for 3D graphics can accelerate Render.

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Re: Work in the sun

2003-02-27 Thread Paul Evans
Is there not a spam filter for this kind of thing?

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Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Kendall Bennett wrote:

 Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I think the interfaces currently provided by XAA will probably remain 
  usable, so you might as well implement them.
 
 Ok.
 
  Plus, we should have XAA expose special higher level functions for
  glyph rendering to the driver so that the graphics card can use the
  higher level data structures to speed this operation, rather than
  having the MI layer break the text operation into a (long) sequence
  of primitive Composite operations. 

   What are you guys talking about?  XAA already has hooks all over
the place.

 
 Yes, most definitely. The current mechanism is not exactly efficient, and 
 in fact is the reason why I want to hook some functions at a higher level 
 so we can make this faster.
 
 Also when it comes to rendering text, one of the fastest ways of doing 
 this is the way that OS/2 does it. Instead of caching any glyphs in 
 offscreen video memory (terribly wasteful of offscreen video memory and 
 no faster than using system memory bitmaps), you maintain a single large 
 bitmap that matches the physical resolution of the screen (ie: 1280x1024 
 mono bitmap). When you need to draw text, you render the text into the 
 mono bitmap in software at the necessary place on the screen, and when 
 that is done pass the entire bitmap to be drawn to the hardware with a 
 clip rectangle that covers just the text you just rendered into the 
 bitmap. The clipping is real easy to do in the software setup stages for 
 text rendering, and then you can blit the entire string to the hardware 
 in one shot.

   XAA already does this!!!  XAA has never cached glyphs in video ram.

 
 So fast, efficient text could be done in XFree86 if a single function was 
 used to transfer an entire bitmap in the driver code (pre-clipping could 
 easily be done before the driver code is called), and some high level 
 code to maintain and render the glyphs into the pre-allocated large 
 bitmap.
 
   Also I have been wondering about the accelerated anti-aliased text. Is 
   all anti-aliased text in XFree86 done via the XRENDER extension and alpha 
   blits? It is possible to implement accelerated anti-aliased text using 
   simple 4-8 levels of mono bitmap blits using FreeType (that is what we 
   used for it in our MGL graphics library).
  
  Yes, all AA text is done with the Render glyph operations which
  are defined in terms of the basic image composition primitive. 
  Once you have hardware acceleration for image compositing, that's
  going to be a lot faster than any non-standard rendering path. 

   That's why XAA hooks Glyphs and doesn't do it that way.
XAA does not break glyph rendering into the Composite operator.

 
 Granted, if you have hardware alpha blits that will be the fastest way to 
 do this. But if you don't have hardware alpha blits (and lots of cards 
 supported by XFree86 do not), you can still speed up anti-aliased text 
 quite a lot by using a 4 or 8 level scheme using multiple mono bitmaps.

   No you can't.  This text is ALPHA BLENDED into whatever the background
is.  It is not text ImageText - ie. it is not an alpha blended string
on top of a solid backing rectangle.


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Fw: OOM problem

2003-02-27 Thread Axel
 it is a font problem, but i don' t know if it is a misconfigured file or a
 bug so i forward to devel . (it would surprise me if it s a bug)

 I just installed the 4.3.0 release (from cvs, xf-4_3_0 tag)
 no error at compilation or at install
 I didn ' t  change the /etc/fonts/fonts.conf file so it contains :

 dir/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/dir
  dir/usr/share/fonts/dir
  dir~/.fonts/dir

 so the problem is when I run an xterm -fa Courier (example taken from
 docs), it causes a Out Of Memory linux kernel error, though I have 256 MB
of
 memory.
 If i change /etc/fonts/fonts.conf and I put only Type1 (by example),
 problems disappear
 and fc-cache works without parameter and xterm -fa Courier too

 I didn' t install any other fonts than which from X4.3 itself
 fc-cache cause problem when I run it without argument
 when I run with a font directory, it works

 Is it a bug ?or a misconfigured xft ?
 What font directories should I and should I not put in fonts.conf  ?


 here s the result for each of my font directory (these created by make
 install)

 fc-cache: 100dpi: skipping, 397 fonts, 0 dirs
 fc-cache: 75dpi: skipping, 397 fonts, 0 dirs
 fc-cache: CID: caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs
 fc-cache: Speedo: skipping, 0 fonts, 0 dirs
 fc-cache: TTF: skipping, 12 fonts, 0 dirs
 fc-cache: Type1: skipping, 29 fonts, 0 dirs
 fc-cache: cyrillic: caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs
 fc-cache: encodings: skipping, 0 fonts, 1 dirs
 fc-cache: encodings/large: skipping, 0 fonts, 0 dirs
 fc-cache: local: skipping, 0 fonts, 0 dirs
 fc-cache: misc: skipping, 55 fonts, 0 dirs
 fc-cache: util: skipping, 0 fonts, 0 dirs


 and here is my X config file (path section)

 Section Files
  RgbPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
  ModulePath   /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
  FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
  FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
  FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
  FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
  FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local
  FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType
  FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID
  FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
   FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
   FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF
 EndSection

 so before make install, the file fonts.conf doesnn't seem to be usable
 before a little tweak


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Re: Work in the sun

2003-02-27 Thread David Dawes
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 03:14:35PM -0500, Mark Vojkovich wrote:
  I believe there already is.   It seems to be letting alot of stuff 
through these days, but I expect it's nothing compared to what would
happen if it were turned off.

That's for sure.  I get to see what the filter blocks, and there
are many days when it would totally overwhelm the valid list traffic.

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Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Kendall Bennett
Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What are you guys talking about?  XAA already has hooks all over
 the place.

Yes, it does! Now that I am learning more about this I am happy to see 
that someone saw fit to make it so XAA drivers can hook stuff at many 
levels. Very cool. It should be better documented though ;-)

XAA already does this!!!  XAA has never cached glyphs in video ram.

Hmm, then how come in the XAA driver architecture there are methods to do 
mono blits from offscreen video memory? I just assumed that this meant 
the glyphs were being cached in offscreen video memory, but perhaps XAA 
is just using offscreen memory as a temporary 'ping ping' buffer in this 
case? Ie: for hardware that can't do system blits but can do blits from 
offscreen video memory?

  Granted, if you have hardware alpha blits that will be the fastest way to 
  do this. But if you don't have hardware alpha blits (and lots of cards 
  supported by XFree86 do not), you can still speed up anti-aliased text 
  quite a lot by using a 4 or 8 level scheme using multiple mono bitmaps.
 
No you can't.  This text is ALPHA BLENDED into whatever the
 background is.  It is not text ImageText - ie. it is not an alpha
 blended string on top of a solid backing rectangle. 

True. The way we implement in our library is that the core of the text 
glyphs (ie: the non-blended solid pixels) are drawn with a fast mono 
blit. Then we render the 4 levels of aliasing into the framebuffer with 
high speed software blending only for the pixels that need to be drawn 
(usually only 5% coverage for a typical sized glyph). Doing it that way 
is still *way* faster than drawing the entire glyph with software 
blending if you don't have hardware compositing.

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Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Kendall Bennett
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  So fast, efficient text could be done in XFree86 if a single function was 
  used to transfer an entire bitmap in the driver code (pre-clipping could 
  easily be done before the driver code is called), and some high level 
  code to maintain and render the glyphs into the pre-allocated large 
  bitmap.
 
 That's how Render does text today, except that it allocates the
 temporary bitmap on the fly (which isn't a big deal with modern
 malloc implementations).  Monochrome bitmaps the size of the
 screen are one thing, but 32bpp bitmaps at screen size are a bit
 large to keep around for this purpose (yes, Render glyphs really
 are 32bpp on LCD screens). 

Right, but I wasn't talking about RENDER in this case but the standard 
case of aliased text. Then again I imagine if there is a choice between 
aliased and anti-aliased text, no-one would want the aliased version  
anymore so performance is not important ;-) And yes, 32bpp bitmaps would 
be a little too large to keep around. Besides, the primary reason to keep 
large mono bitmaps around is because it makes it easier to render the 
text due to the packed bits in mono bitmaps. 32bpp is much easier to 
handle with bitmaps just the size of the text due to one pixel per DWORD 
;-)

  Granted, if you have hardware alpha blits that will be the fastest way to 
  do this. But if you don't have hardware alpha blits (and lots of cards 
  supported by XFree86 do not), you can still speed up anti-aliased text 
  quite a lot by using a 4 or 8 level scheme using multiple mono bitmaps.
 
 I suppose, but it wouldn't be compatible with the Render
 semantics. If I'd heard users complaining about text performance,
 I'd be more interested. Plus, the number of users with cards that
 can't support image compositing is rapidly declining; essentially
 any card that has even the smallest amount of acceleration for 3D
 graphics can accelerate Render. 

Very true, but if you consider the fact that right now there is only one 
graphics driver in XFree86 that actually has the composting functions 
enabled (excluding closed NVIDIA drivers), the multi-level scheme could 
accelerate anti-aliased text on a lot of hardware instantly. Then when 
people get the time, the composting functions could be implemented to 
make it better and faster where applicable.

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Re: Work in the sun

2003-02-27 Thread Kendall Bennett
David Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's for sure.  I get to see what the filter blocks, and there
 are many days when it would totally overwhelm the valid list traffic.

What software are you using for SPAM filtering? We are using Spam 
Assassin now on our new mail server (about to switch over today!) and it 
seems to work pretty well (especially with the Bayesian filter enabled). 

Just curious what seems to work well for this list.

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Re: xf86cfg: ERROR SIGSEGV caught!

2003-02-27 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 09:51:15AM -0800, Keith Packard wrote:
 Around 16 o'clock on Feb 27, Stefan Dirsch wrote:
 
  No. Will be some work to extract the CVS diff for me. So you can't
  reproduce this problem with 4.3.0? I'll have a try with 4.3.0 now
  before looking deeper into this issue.
 
 I've just tried xf86cfg under 4.3 and didn't have any difficulties.  One 
 thing I did have to do was clean out ancient drivers from the modules 
 directory -- I had several seg faults until I made sure I didn't have 
 anything older than 4.3 installed.

Strange. It only happens if libfreetype.so render module exists. I
compile this against system libfreetype to get rid of some bugs in
freetype2 which comes with XFree86 (some fonts can't be displayed any
more which worked with freetype1 based freetype module).  After
loading this module every module gets a

  ERROR SIGSEGV caught!

after loading.

[...]
Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so
Module freetype: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 2.0.2
Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so
Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a
Module type1: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.2
  ERROR SIGSEGV caught!
Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
  ERROR SIGSEGV caught!

Maybe xf86cfg can't handle these modules. XFree86 loader can.

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Re: Debugging in RH8?

2003-02-27 Thread Paul Flinders
Mike A. Harris wrote:

Also, we are attempting to get XFree86 debug support integrated 
into future FSF gdb.  The major holdup is basically nobody knows 
who the original authors of the patches were from way back when 
for proper attribution and copyright assignment and all the other 
joys the FSF requires.

I know one of the authors was Paul Flinders, and I've got an 
email address for him still.  Does anyone else know who all 
worked on the XFree86 gdb patches?  The only history I know of it 
is:

The version on the XFree86 site is 4.18 or somesuch.  I took that
and ported it about 60% functionally to gdb 5.0, which Paul then
found out about and finished off the parts that weren't working.  
I later ported it to gdb 5.1.1, and it's partially ported to a 
more recent version as well.

I was the original author. I have a record of one patch from Gerd Knorr 
(then
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) which was the PPC port, however that might
just be trivial enough to not need assignment (I've included it below).

Apart from yourself I don't recall any other contributions but
I will have another look over my email archives.
I do still check over the list to see if anyone is reporting problems
but hardly anyone ever does. I'm never sure whether to interpret
this as a sign that nobody uses the modified GDB or that it
works fine and no-one is having problems.
Here is Gerd's patch.

diff -u gdb-4.17/gdb/config/powerpc/nm-linux.h.xfree 
gdb-4.17/gdb/config/powerpc/nm-linux.h
--- gdb-4.17/gdb/config/powerpc/nm-linux.h.xfreeMon Jun  7 18:56:58 1999
+++ gdb-4.17/gdb/config/powerpc/nm-linux.h  Mon Jun  7 18:56:58 1999
@@ -39,6 +39,7 @@
#ifdef HAVE_LINK_H
#include solib.h/* Support for shared libraries. */
+#include xfreemod.h/* Support for shared libraries. */
#define SVR4_SHARED_LIBS
#endif
diff -u gdb-4.17/gdb/config/powerpc/linux.mh.xfree gdb-4.17/gdb/config/powerpc/linux.mh
--- gdb-4.17/gdb/config/powerpc/linux.mh.xfree  Mon Jun  7 19:10:24 1999
+++ gdb-4.17/gdb/config/powerpc/linux.mhMon Jun  7 19:10:41 1999
@@ -9,7 +9,7 @@
XM_CLIBS=
NAT_FILE= nm-linux.h
-NATDEPFILES= infptrace.o solib.o inftarg.o fork-child.o corelow.o \
+NATDEPFILES= infptrace.o solib.o xfreemod.o inftarg.o fork-child.o corelow.o \
  core-aout.o core-regset.o ppclnx-nat.o
GDBSERVER_DEPFILES= low-linux.o



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Monitor section in config file?

2003-02-27 Thread Kendall Bennett
Hi Guys,

I see that sometimes the monitor section in the XF86Config file has a 
'DisplaySize' value enabled (values like 400 300 seem typical). What is 
that value supposed to be? Is it the viewable size of the screen in 
millimeters or something? I assume it is optional?

Also where do I find the docs on the XF86Config file format. I need to 
read up some more on this.

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Re: Work in the sun

2003-02-27 Thread David Dawes
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 12:33:32PM -0800, Kendall Bennett wrote:
David Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's for sure.  I get to see what the filter blocks, and there
 are many days when it would totally overwhelm the valid list traffic.

What software are you using for SPAM filtering? We are using Spam 
Assassin now on our new mail server (about to switch over today!) and it 
seems to work pretty well (especially with the Bayesian filter enabled). 

A combination of spam assassin and a home grown filter.  The latter
helps a lot with blocking virus spam.  It's a little too aggressive in
some areas for personal use, but a reasonable balance for a list like
this.  I'm planning to look at some other tools once I get a chance to
stretch my legs after the release.

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Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Kendall Bennett wrote:

 Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 What are you guys talking about?  XAA already has hooks all over
  the place.
 
 Yes, it does! Now that I am learning more about this I am happy to see 
 that someone saw fit to make it so XAA drivers can hook stuff at many 
 levels. Very cool. It should be better documented though ;-)

   I think there are very few reasons to hook stuff at higher levels.
I don't believe you have a reason to do so.

 
 XAA already does this!!!  XAA has never cached glyphs in video ram.
 
 Hmm, then how come in the XAA driver architecture there are methods to do 
 mono blits from offscreen video memory? I just assumed that this meant 
 the glyphs were being cached in offscreen video memory, but perhaps XAA 
 is just using offscreen memory as a temporary 'ping ping' buffer in this 
 case? Ie: for hardware that can't do system blits but can do blits from 
 offscreen video memory?

   Mono blits from offscreen are only used for cached stipples.
If the driver supports these it is the prefered method for stippling.
Otherwise XAA will fall back to transparent blits from the pixmap
cache or CPUToScreenColorExpansion.

   XAA's catch-all for non-AA text rendering renders each glyph with
WriteBitmap.  If the driver didn't provide WriteBitmap, XAA would
provide one that used the driver's CPUToScreenColorExpansion routines.

  If the conditions were appropriate XAA would pre-composite the whole
string and pass the result as a single bitmap.  These conditions
are that no glyph is more than 32 pixels wide (it's optimized to
expect it to fit in one DWORD) and the rop is such that it doesn't
matter if glyphs overlap (if the rop it XOR, for example, overlapping
characters are supposed to XOR each other and a pre-composited
string would be incorrect if it contained overlapping characters).
The result is that essentially all rendering of proportional fonts
goes through that path.

   Furthermore, for fixed fonts, XAA has scanline renderers that
each glyph width up to 32 pixels.  The benchmark cases are written
in assembly.  In this case it doesn't have to composite into a
scratch buffer.  I renders directly to the target surface.

Note that with the Scanline CPUToScreenColorExpand routines,
XAA can render directly into your graphics engine's DMA command
buffer.

I don't think you'll be able to write non-AA code that
renders quicker than XAA, but you'll certainly risk rendering
it incorrectly.

   For AA fonts you can hook the top level through XAAInfoRec.Glyphs.
If you don't provide that level XAA will provide one for you which
will optimize the 1 bit alpha glyphs, but will fall through to the
mi routines for everything else.  Mi will composite the glyphs
into a single Picture and pass it through to the Composite operator
and you'll have another chance to accelerate it at that time.

   XAA only provides two low-level Render-related primitives.
The 8 bit Alpha texture + color and the Generic color texture
composite functions.  It's difficult to abstract things much
beyond that since different graphics engines diverge quite a
bit at this level.  XAA 3 (XFree86 5's XAA) doesn't even try.
It's only got the 8 bit alpha low-level primitive and everything
else is higher level where the driver is expected to do alot
more, though I suppose much of it could be offloaded to helper 
functions.

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Re: Debugging in RH8?

2003-02-27 Thread Gerd Knorr
Paul Flinders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have a record of one patch from Gerd Knorr (then
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) which was the PPC port,

Still reading here :)

Merging this stuff into fsf gdb is fine with me.

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Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Owen Taylor
On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 14:42, Keith Packard wrote:


  Granted, if you have hardware alpha blits that will be the fastest way to 
  do this. But if you don't have hardware alpha blits (and lots of cards 
  supported by XFree86 do not), you can still speed up anti-aliased text 
  quite a lot by using a 4 or 8 level scheme using multiple mono bitmaps.
 
 I suppose, but it wouldn't be compatible with the Render semantics.  If
 I'd heard users complaining about text performance, I'd be more interested.
 Plus, the number of users with cards that can't support image compositing 
 is rapidly declining; essentially any card that has even the smallest 
 amount of acceleration for 3D graphics can accelerate Render.

Actually, we get a fair number of complaints about AA-gnome-terminal
speed, though some of that is just bugs in gnome-terminal that have
now been fixed.

But the software side could be made many times faster; especially
considering that gnome-terminal is almost always 
text-on-constant background. And text-on-constant background should
possible to make as fast as PCI/AGP write bandwidth. (*)

(A lot slower than hardware compositing, but not remotely slow.)

Regards,
 Owen

(*) There are two levels of server-side optimization you can do
for text-on-constant-background.
  
a) If you keep track of the fact that a Pixmap is constant
   color, you can migrate from video ram to system ram
   about 100x faster than actually copying the data.
   Compositing system-ram-to-system-ram is fast.

b) If you keep track of the fact that a Pixmap is constant
   color, you could have special-cased compositing routines
   that avoid even having to read the destination image.
   But this involves yet more paths in the compositing
   code. (Yuck.) This one is also harder to properly handle
   for the multiple-write case. You'd probably have to 
   keep track of a constant-color _region_.






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Input driver communication with calibration application?

2003-02-27 Thread Burt Bicksler
Hi,

I'm working with a touch screen driver in XFree86 4.0.x.. and I have 
need to communicate with the touch screen driver from an X application 
that is used for calibration.

Specifically I want to be able to turn off existing calibration, and 
then give the driver updated configuration after the user is finished.

What is the best way to perform this type of communication with an 
XInput driver from an X application?

Thanks,
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Re: Work in the sun

2003-02-27 Thread Kendall Bennett
David Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What software are you using for SPAM filtering? We are using Spam 
 Assassin now on our new mail server (about to switch over today!) and it 
 seems to work pretty well (especially with the Bayesian filter enabled). 
 
 A combination of spam assassin and a home grown filter.  The
 latter helps a lot with blocking virus spam.  It's a little too
 aggressive in some areas for personal use, but a reasonable balance
 for a list like this.  I'm planning to look at some other tools
 once I get a chance to stretch my legs after the release. 

Cool. Are the home grown filters ones that work with Spam Assassin or are 
they separate filters you have created? I am currently using SpamCop, but 
am hoping that Spam Assassin will be better (and locally managed).

If I didn't have SPAM filtering on my email address (which has been 
around for years, is on tons of web sites and tons of newsgroup postings, 
all prior to SPAM becoming a plauge!) I would probably get 3x as much 
email every day. I routinely delete on the order of 1000+ SPAM emails a 
week from my SpamCop account!

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Another RENDER question

2003-02-27 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
The hardware I am dealing with does not support ARGB textures (at least 
not in 2D level, and I don't want to mess with DRI), but alpha blended 
bit blits.

The difference being: While ARGB textures contain an alpha value for 
each pixel, the alpha blended bit blits render with a static alpha 
value for all of the bitmap data.

Is this hardware capability of any use, be it RENDER or any other XAA 
function?

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Re: Another RENDER question

2003-02-27 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Thomas Winischhofer wrote:

 The hardware I am dealing with does not support ARGB textures (at least 
 not in 2D level, and I don't want to mess with DRI), but alpha blended 
 bit blits.
 
 The difference being: While ARGB textures contain an alpha value for 
 each pixel, the alpha blended bit blits render with a static alpha 
 value for all of the bitmap data.
 
 Is this hardware capability of any use, be it RENDER or any other XAA 
 function?

   Not much in my option.  The interesting area is alpha masks.
While there are cases in render that you'll be able to accelerate,
the semantics of the API are more generic where constant alpha is
merely a special case of an alpha mask.   Perhaps when we get the
translucent window support (XFree86 5 timeframe, I believe) this
hardware feature will be easier to expose.


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Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Kendall Bennett
Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  We do. We have our own device driver abstraction layer and using the low 
  level XAA functions does not map at all well to our driver modle. Hence 
  hooking at the next level up (MID) will allow us to avoid the overheads 
  of translating between the low level XAA model and our driver model.
 
I forgot that you had your own driver API that you were translating
 to.  

;-)

 Hooking WriteBitmap is reasonable to handle the proportional
 fonts. For fixed fonts you can replace the TEGlyph renderer and
 have it use the existing glyph_scanline_func[width - 1] to render
 into a scratch bitmap. See the XAATEGlyphRenderer for an example. 

Awesome, I will take a look at that.

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Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Matt Wilson
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 05:01:19PM -0500, Owen Taylor wrote:
 (*) There are two levels of server-side optimization you can do
 for text-on-constant-background.

Well, we can start with even more simple optimizations, like not doing
the compositing when the clip region is empty.  Currently if you unmap
a vte window that is doing lots of Xtf antialiased text drawing, the X
server is spending tons of time doing compositing that is just thrown
away.

http://fontconfig.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29

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Re: Monitor section in config file?

2003-02-27 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Kendall Bennett wrote:

 Also where do I find the docs on the XF86Config file format. I need to 
 read up some more on this.

man XF86Config

 I see that sometimes the monitor section in the XF86Config file has a 
 'DisplaySize' value enabled (values like 400 300 seem typical). What is 
 that value supposed to be? Is it the viewable size of the screen in 
 millimeters or something? I assume it is optional?

Correct in all cases, although when X -configure creates those values
from DDC it currently uses a size derived from the monitor size in cm, 
rather than the size in millimetres of any particular mode.

The screen dimensions reported by xdpyinfo are those calculated from
the pitch - DPI - which is in turn calculated from the DisplaySize;
rounding errors mean that the two sets of dimensions may not be the 
same :-(

X -configure comments these values out because many apps used to get 
confused by having precise dpi values and displayed silly fonts.
I think that at one time a 85x90 dpi screen would make Netscape
use 75x100dpi fonts. I note that Netscape 7 allows you to calibrate
the horizontal screen pitch, but not the vertical pitch.

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Xfree supports Hppa ?

2003-02-27 Thread Stephane Wirtel
Hi all, 

Is there a port of Xfree for HPPA 7100LC ?
Because, It's unable to compile correcty Xfree86 on this CPU.


The compilation is OK, but i would like to use XFree86 -configure to
configure my Xfree server, I have theses errors : 
Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 4
Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 1
Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 0
Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 240
Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 22
Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 0
Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 60
Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 18
Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 0
Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 72
Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 18
Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 0
Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 236
Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 22
Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 0
Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 132
Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 18
(EE) LoadModule: Module pcidata does not supply version information
(EE) Failed to load module pcidata (invalid module, 0)

Gcc : 3.2.2
Glibc : 2.3.1
Kernel : Linux 2.4.20 for hppa 
Binutils : 2.13.90.0.18

and here is my /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
cpu family  : PA-RISC 1.1e
cpu : PA7300LC (PCX-L2)
cpu MHz : 180.00
model   : 9000/778/B180L
model name  : Merlin L2+ 180 (9000/778/B180L)
hversion: 0x5040
sversion: 0x0481
I-cache : 64 KB
D-cache : 64 KB (WB)
ITLB entries: 96
DTLB entries: 96 - shared with ITLB
BTLB fixed  : max. 16384 pages, pagesize=4096 (64MB)
BTLB fix-entr.  : 0 instruction, 0 data (8 combined)
BTLB var-entr.  : 0 instruction, 0 data (0 combined)
bogomips: 119.60
software id : 2004841548


Could you help me please ?

Thanks

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Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Keith Packard
Around 23 o'clock on Feb 27, Matt Wilson wrote:

 Well, we can start with even more simple optimizations, like not doing
 the compositing when the clip region is empty.

Yeah, that would help in some cases.  One does have to be careful to keep 
backing store working though.

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How to make cursor invisible

2003-02-27 Thread Robert Woerle Paceblade/Support
Hi

i now that this might be a silly qestion  but i try:

I am doing a calibration utility for our  touchscreen ...
now i want to become the cursor invisible when runnning my calibration .
I ve read once upon a time some code which did that but i dont find it 
anymore ... i remmeber that i have to register a new GC with a colour 
that  is invisible and change the cursor to that GC ..
but how excatly can i do that .. can somebody point me to a example code

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Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-27 Thread Aivils . Stoss
Hi, all

 Long time  I maintain Linux 2.4.XX kernel tree , wich support multiple
consoles.
Ground priciple:
linus tree kernel has 64 virtual consoles == virtual terminal.
All 64 accessible by one user.

Tuned 2.4.XX-backstreet-ruby kernel has same 64 virtual consoles but one
user
can use only range of consoles. Current I use different terminology:
virtual
terminlal (VT) == 8 virtual consoles (VC), Each VT may be bounded with
independ
keyboard. Normal (non root) user can access only VC inside their VT. Root
can
access all 64 VC.

XFree86 is suid root process. XFree86 can access any VC. So XFree86 with
parameter vtXX can choose right keyboard, if exist multiple VT == 8 VC.

Current 2.4.XX-backstreet-ruby support only one text-mode console VGA, but
XFree86 do not ask for text mode console. We can use stealth DUMMY console
,
which emulate addidtional VT and bounded with additional keyboards.

files:
http://startx.times.lv/

broken project:
http://linuxconsole.sf.net
linuxconsole.bkbits.com
partialy worked project, same console code
fbdev.bkbits.com

Aivils Stoss
please replay to me to. I do not feel like xf86 developer.

p.s.
Why I should pacth PCI-handling of XFree or Why XFree search and freezy
innocent VGA adapters?

I just rewrite:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=2907175
 does anyone know why you'd want this kind of locking going on anyway?
is
 it to avoid two x servers trying to drive the same head?
 Don't know.

I'd guess it has to do with braid-deadness of older VGA-compatible PCI/AGP
hardware. There might be no other way to init the chips (change mode, even
change single palette entry) than to go trough the VGA-compatible I/O
ports. This range is legacy address decoded by the PCI devices. Since
these legacy I/O ranges cannot be relocated (like normal MMIO I/O in PCI),
only one PCI device (in system) may have it's legacy VGA address decoders
enabled at single instance. This means that for most older hardware, one
needs to specifically disable the I/O decoders on _all_ other VGA
compatible PCI devices for the duration of programming the one that is
really required. If more than one PCI device will attempt at decoding the
same legacy I/O range (0x3d0-smt), serious brain damage would occur (could
prompt a #SERR on PCI). Only the recent graphics chips may be programmed
purely through MMIO I/O and even then they might require some short setup
before going into that mode.

(at least) because of this reason, xf86 has no choice but disable all I/O
decoders on all VGA-compatible devices, and it goes a bit further by
disabling all VGA-compatible PCI devices that it will not drive just to be
on the safe side.

Unless there is some system-provided common arbitration for these legacy
ranges, this is the only way (from xf86's point of view). The right place
for linux would be the kernel, although this might upset some xf86 folk
since their code also does a lot of other stuff as well (like run the BIOS
code init from previously disabled PCI display hardware to get it up and
running, DDC probing if otherwise not possible).

In my opinion a more generic resource management for this would be nice in
the kernel but atm xf86 assumes (rightly so) that it will be the only
application doing graphics stuff. This is difficult to solve (although in
my opinion possible).

Feel free to correct me if you feel that the technical data is inaccurate,
I've currently trying to understand the lower levels of PCI and AGP
eventually and don't claim to be an expert on it.

Aleksandr Koltsoff


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[Fonts] OOM problem

2003-02-27 Thread Axel
it is a font problem, but i don' t know if it is a misconfigured file or a
bug (it would suprise me)

I just installed the 4.3.0 release (from cvs, xf-4_3_0 tag)
no error at compilation or at install
I didn ' t  change the /etc/fonts/fonts.conf file so it contains :

dir/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/dir
 dir/usr/share/fonts/dir
 dir~/.fonts/dir

so the problem is when I run an xterm -fa Courier (example taken from
docs), it causes a Out Of Memory linux kernel error, though I have 256 MB of
memory.
If i change /etc/fonts/fonts.conf and I put only Type1 (by example),
problems disappear
and fc-cache works without parameter and xterm -fa Courier too

I didn' t install any other fonts than which from X4.3 itself
fc-cache cause problem when I run it without argument
when I run with a font directory, it works

Is it a bug ?or a misconfigured xft ?
What font directories should I and should I not put in fonts.conf  ?


here s the result for each of my font directory (these created by make
install)

fc-cache: 100dpi: skipping, 397 fonts, 0 dirs
fc-cache: 75dpi: skipping, 397 fonts, 0 dirs
fc-cache: CID: caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs
fc-cache: Speedo: skipping, 0 fonts, 0 dirs
fc-cache: TTF: skipping, 12 fonts, 0 dirs
fc-cache: Type1: skipping, 29 fonts, 0 dirs
fc-cache: cyrillic: caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs
fc-cache: encodings: skipping, 0 fonts, 1 dirs
fc-cache: encodings/large: skipping, 0 fonts, 0 dirs
fc-cache: local: skipping, 0 fonts, 0 dirs
fc-cache: misc: skipping, 55 fonts, 0 dirs
fc-cache: util: skipping, 0 fonts, 0 dirs


and here is my X config file (path section)

Section Files
 RgbPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
 ModulePath   /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
  FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
  FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF
EndSection

so before make install, the file fonts.conf doesnn't seem to be usable
before a little tweak


Axel

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[I18n] http://www.HappyHug.com, a great site with over 30 new links to free adult conte

2003-02-27 Thread Ben HappyHug
Hi,

A few months ago I started a website for adults:

http://www.HappyHug.com

It’s a great site with over 30 new links to free adult content every day.

Now I try to get a whole lot of visitors.
Please visit my site and if you like it, than tell it to all your friends.
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[XFree86] no screen found error.

2003-02-27 Thread atul garg
Hi all..
when ever i try to run startx it gives the no screen found 
error..
pls help
thanks,
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[XFree86] [XFree86(TM) Bug Report] Probable bug at the nsc driver: switching consoles non functional

2003-02-27 Thread Diego Camacho
Regarding: Probable bug at the nsc driver: switching consoles non functional
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XFree86 Version: XFree86 4.3.0RC2

OS: SuSE 8.0 with kernels 2.4.18-SuSE and 2.4.20-SuSE

Area: driver nsc

Server: XFree86 (The XFree86 4.x server)

Server: driver nsc 

Video Card:

Geode GX1 with companion chip 5530

Description:

I'm using an advantech pcm3350 SBC.  I have reinstalled SuSE
8.0 with a minimal set-up (no X and yes to minimal system).  About 250Mb
was installed.  Then I installed Xfree86 4.3.0RC2 using the Xinstall.sh
script.  No errors and so on.  Then I copied the XFree86Config file from
the previous setup (including the nsc module).  When running startx
everything was functional at 1024x768 16bpp.  The windows manager is twm.

When I use CRTL+ALT+Fx  the screen flicks and goes to dark black.  No
characters -nada-.  When I press CRTL+ALT+F7, the graphics are back again.
If I pay attention, the consoles appears for a fraction of a second before
switching to graphics, so the memory is not corrupted.

I have changed the nsc line to vesa line, and the consoles and
graphics are ok again.  I can swith between them without corruption.  When
I put back nsc the black screens are back again.  So I believe the
problem is with the nsc driver itself.

I have moved the kernel from 2.4.18-SuSE to 2.4.20-SuSE and the behaviour
is the same.

I have checked and I have framebuffer configured in the kernel (SVGA
compiled in and others as modules).  I know since SuSE puts the kernel
config file in /proc/config.gz

I do not have the FULL SERVER OUTPUT right now but no error is reported. I can get it 
but it is a Single Board Computer so I not trivial. 

Repeat By:

With the nsc driver loaded, swith consoles using CRTL+ALT+Fx and I get only black 
screens.  CRTL+ALT+F7 returns to graphics console.

The Xserver is up and alive since I can export DISPLAY.

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[XFree86] Selecting a monitor and changing refresh rate to 85Hz

2003-02-27 Thread Ashok Kumar
Will any body please help me to select my monitor as sony cpd 1430 and to
set the refresh rate to 85Hz. Actually my monitor is vintron, which is not
in the database, but sony model is fine in windows, rh7, 7.1 and 8. Now I
migrated to debian, and it is not giving me an option to choose the monitor.
I need a 800*600 display. My video card is trident cyberblade i7 and my
mouse is a microsoft serial 3 butten (actually, it is logitech) one. If any
body helps me to edit the config file or send me some script to do that or
the config file itself, i will be very happy and thankful

regards
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[XFree86] intel i830 (newbie)

2003-02-27 Thread John Paul O'Grady
Hello

I have only just started using linux, not sure if if this question
has already been resolved. I have suse 8.1 and an intel i830 graphics
chip. At the moment it can only support an 8 bit 1024x780 screen
resolution. It has something to do with BIOS memory..

Will XFree86 4.3.0 solve this problem..

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[XFree86] Racer on A31/ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 32 MB

2003-02-27 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Hi,

I have the following problem with the latest racer (www.racer.nl) on my
A31/ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 32 MB:
1) no smooth display (choking)
2) 8 fps on default gfx.ini (finetuning doesnt help much)
3) radeonUploadTexImages: ran into bound texture
this is my Device:

Section Device
Identifier  ATI Radeon Mobility 7500
#Driver vesa
#Driver fbdev
#Driver ati
Driver  radeon
Option  EnablePageFlip
#Option UseFBDev  true
#Option AGPMode   4
Option  AGPFastWrite  1
#Option SWcursor  1
#Option AGPSize   64
#Option RingSize  8
#Option BufferSize2
BusID   01:00:0
EndSection
I found a thread on similar subject
(http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2002/debian-x-200211/msg00137.html)
but I havent concluded much.
aha, all my OpenGL programs work rather fine (all my own GL codes, but
also glxgears, tuxracer etc.).
can this be helped?
thanks a lot
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[XFree86] [XFree86(TM) Bug Report] Font 'fixed'

2003-02-27 Thread gio
Regarding: Font 'fixed'
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XFree86 Version: 2.4.1.8

OS: Linux red hat 8.0

Area: Xserver

Server: XFree86 (The XFree86 4.x server)

Video Card:

matrox millennium g400

Description:

XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.2.0-72) / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 23 January 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.18-11smp i686 [ELF]
Build Host: daffy.perf.redhat.com

Module Loader present
OS Kernel: Linux version 2.4.18-14 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2 20020903 (Red 
Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)) #1 Wed Sep 4 12:13:11 EDT 2002
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Thu Feb 27 13:07:06 2003
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config
Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list!

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'

Repeat By:

XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.2.0-72) / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 23 January 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.18-11smp i686 [ELF]
Build Host: daffy.perf.redhat.com

Module Loader present
OS Kernel: Linux version 2.4.18-14 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2 20020903 (Red 
Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)) #1 Wed Sep 4 12:13:11 EDT 2002
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Thu Feb 27 13:07:06 2003
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config
Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list!

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'

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[XFree86] Problem with linux in setting up display driver

2003-02-27 Thread dev








Hi



I have a Dell 8200 laptop with Pentium 4
and Nvidia GeForce 2 display driver. I tried to install Mandrake Linux (8.1,
Linux 2.4.8-5mdkenterprise i686 [ELF]) and as expected the X system
didnt work properly. I tried to do install the drivers downloaded from
Nvidia site and but it still doesnt work. I am attaching the logfile
with this mail. Can you please help me in setting up the display drivers



With best regards

Dev



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Re: [XFree86] Mouse repeater annoyance

2003-02-27 Thread Egbert Eich
Dr Andrew C Aitchison writes:
  On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Peter Berg Larsen wrote:
  
   I am currently using RC2 (upgraded yesterday from 4.2.1) and is irritated
   by a 8-9 second freeze of X when switching to X from the console. This
   seems to happen because X is set to use a mouse repeater (that does not
   respond to commands), combined with that X resets the mouse when swithing
   to X from the console. This (long) freeze did not happen in 4.2.1, but
   probably changed with these:
  
  I have the same long freeze, but am not, as far as I am aware, using a 
  repeater. I do have two mice, which doubles the delay.

Could you please verify this? You just need to check where the mouse
device points to.
Real mice really should not have much delay. If you delay is really
long you should edit pnp.c in the xfree86/input/mouse directory
and add a 
#define EXTMOUSEDEBUG
#define DEBUG
to the file. Please send me the log file.

  
   Why reset the mouse when switching to X in the first place ? How
   can it be turned off? (It can't if I have read the code correct, so the
   actual question is whether it is to late to do anything about it)
  
  It isn't so much turning it off, but while the X server is switched
  away, something else may have put the mouse into some other state;
  eg most wheel mice can speak either PS/2 or IMPS/2.
  

Yes. Many ugly things can happen while switched away.
We could lower the retry count which should shorten the
timeout. Corrently it is 10.

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RE: [XFree86] Problem with linux in setting up display driver

2003-02-27 Thread Jonathon Ireland








Did you Configure
your XF86Config.new file? (At least that is what it is called in BSD)

If you are in the root directory type:

XFree86 configure

Edit the default depth and then exit by typing:


:wq! 

to exit and save over the read only file. 

The file should look something like this
when you are done:



Section ServerLayout

 Identifier XFree86
Configured

 Screen 0 Screen0
0 0

 InputDevice Mouse0 CorePointer

 InputDevice Keyboard0 CoreKeyboard

EndSection



Section Files

 RgbPath
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb

 ModulePath
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules

 FontPath
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/

 FontPath
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/

 FontPath
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/

 FontPath
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/

 FontPath
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/

 FontPath
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/

EndSection



Section Module

 Load dbe

 Load extmod

 Load glx

 Load record

 Load xtrap

 Load type1

 Load freetype

EndSection



Section InputDevice

 Identifier Keyboard0

 Driver
keyboard

 Option XkbModel microsoft

EndSection



Section InputDevice

 Identifier Mouse0

 Driver
mouse

 Option  Protocol wsmouse

 Option  Device
/dev/wsmouse


Option
Buttons 3


Option
ZAxisMapping 4 5

EndSection



Section Monitor

 Identifier Monitor0

 VendorName
Monitor Vendor

 ModelName
Monitor Model

 Option dpms

EndSection



Section Device

 Identifier Card0

 Driver ati

 VendorName ATI

 BoardName
Mach64 LB

 ChipSet ati

 ChipId 0x4c42

 ChipRev 0xdc

 BusID PCI:1:0:0

EndSection



Section Screen

 Identifier
Screen0

 Device Card0

 Monitor Monitor0

 DefaultDepth 16

 SubSection Display

 Depth 16

 EndSubSection

EndSection

(very few
modifications need to be made to the file)



Then when back at the command prompt type
this:

cp XF86Config.new /etc/XF86Config

(This should copy the file to the directory needed by X-Server)

Let me know I this helps,

Jon Ireland



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Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [XFree86] Problem with
linux in setting up display driver



Hi



I have a Dell 8200 laptop with Pentium 4 and Nvidia GeForce 2 display
driver. I tried to install Mandrake Linux (8.1, Linux 2.4.8-5mdkenterprise i686
[ELF]) and as expected the X system didnt work properly. I tried to do
install the drivers downloaded from Nvidia site and but it still doesnt
work. I am attaching the logfile with this mail. Can you please help me in setting
up the display drivers



With best regards

Dev



Dev
SINGHAL

ENST
Bretagne

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[XFree86] [XFree86(TM) Bug Report] Twinview wont work...

2003-02-27 Thread Anders Bromhagen
Regarding: Twinview wont work...
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

XFree86 Version: 4.2.1.1

OS: Linux 2.4  running Debian 3.0

Area: xclient, twinview

Server: XFree86 (The XFree86 4.x server)

Video Card:

nvidia GeForce 3 Ti2000
I'm using drivers downloaded from nvidia.com


Description:

This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way.  Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)

XFree86 Version 4.2.1.1 (Debian 4.2.1-5 20030122074040 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) / X Window 
System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 18 October 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.19 i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Thu Feb 27 17:04:55 2003
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
(==) ServerLayout Simple Layout
(**) |--Screen Screen 1 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor CTX
(**) |   |--Device GeForce3
(**) |--Input Device Mouse1
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard1
(**) Option AutoRepeat 500 30
(**) Option XkbRules xfree86
(**) XKB: rules: xfree86
(**) Option XkbModel pc101
(**) XKB: model: pc101
(**) Option XkbLayout se
(**) XKB: layout: se
(**) Option XkbVariant nodeadkeys
(**) XKB: variant: nodeadkeys
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) FontPath set to 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
(**) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
(--) using VT number 7

(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: bitmap
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.3
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: pcidata
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,0305 card , rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,8305 card , rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 1106,0686 card 1106, rev 40 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 1106,0571 card 1106,0571 rev 06 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 16 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 16 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:4: chip 1106,3057 card , rev 40 class 06,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:08:0: chip 1102,0002 card 1102,8040 rev 08 class 04,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:08:1: chip 1102,7002 card 1102,0020 rev 08 class 09,80,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:0a:0: chip 100b,0020 card 1385,f311 rev 00 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 10de,0201 card , rev a3 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: scanpci
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) UnloadModule: scanpci
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1 00x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 00x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 00x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0c (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
(II) Bus 1 

[XFree86] Xnest trouble

2003-02-27 Thread Eilmsteiner Reinhard
Hi All!

I'm new to Xnest and wanted to test the thing to get a Xterminal of a
server onto my notebook.

Both machines are running Redhat 8.0, the server is a dual-Xeon machine.

Here's what I do on my notebook:
Xnest :2 -query 192.168.1.66 -ac
Sometimes I get a display and I can put in my username. But shortly
afterwards something goes wrong an I get:
Fatal server error:
XDMCP fatal error: Session declined Maximum number of open sessions from
your host reached.
Most of the times I can't even see the login screen and the error comes
after a short time.

How can I avoid this?

Thx,
Reinhard Eilmsteiner


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Re: [XFree86] XFree86-4.3.0rc2 and Radeon VE - sometimes works, sometimes not

2003-02-27 Thread Jacek Popawski
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 11:40:36PM -0500, hy0 wrote:
 There are some known problems with OEM cards (it appears to be your case).

Thanks for info :-)

 1. Make sure your monitor is connected during the boot. Don't plug/unplug
 monitor(s) after boot.

Monitor is never unplugged.

 2. Use Option CloneDisplay 0

Identifier  ** ATI Radeon (generic)   [radeon]
Option  CrtScreen
Option  CloneDisplay 0
Driver  radeon

Nothing changed.

 If you still have the same problem and you know how to deal with source
 code, you can try following patch.
 http://penguinppc.org/~daenzer/DRI/radeon-ddc.diff

I will try it when XFree86-4.3.0 source will be available for download (can't
get whole CVS).

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Re: [XFree86] Mouse repeater annoyance

2003-02-27 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:

 Log file available at 
 http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~werdna/free86-devel/log.debug.mouse.delay

Sorry, 
  http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~werdna/xfree86-devel/log.debug.mouse.delay
  ^
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[XFree86] [XFree86(TM) Bug Report] XFree86-4.3.0 and DELL Inspiron: Mouse frozen

2003-02-27 Thread Sait Umar
Regarding: XFree86-4.3.0 and DELL Inspiron: Mouse frozen
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

XFree86 Version: 4.3.0-RC1 to 4.3.0

OS: Linux-2.4.20 (RedHat rawhide)

Area: mouse driver

Server: XFree86 (The XFree86 4.x server)

Video Card:

ATI Rage mobility (loads r128 driver)

Description:

When X is started for xdm/kdm/gdm it takes a full minute for the login screen 
to appear and the mouse is frozen in the middle of the screen. This does not
happen with 4.2.0.

Repeat By:

Client is DELL Inspiron 4000, which has ATI Rage mobility graphics, and ps/2 mouse.

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[XFree86] xserver error with redhat 7.3 upgrade

2003-02-27 Thread jeffrey . p . miller
To whom it may concern,

I upgraded a redhat 7.2 box to redhat 7.3 and all went well except the x 
server will not start.
I got the following message (see forwarded message below) when I ran 
startx.  If you can offer any assistance, 
it would be greatly appreciated.

Jeff


- Forwarded by Jeffrey P Miller/118906/EKC on 02/27/03 01:53 PM -


root [EMAIL PROTECTED]
02/27/03 01:51 PM

 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: 
Subject: 



XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.2.0-8) / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 23 January 2002
 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card 
is
 newer than the above date, look for a newer version 
before
 reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.17-0.13smp i686 [ELF] 
Build Host: daffy.perf.redhat.com
 
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Thu Feb 27 13:44:55 2003
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
(==) ServerLayout XFree86 Configured
(**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor SUN0567
(**) |   |--Device Matrox Millennium II
(**) |--Input Device Mouse0
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard0
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) XKB: layout: us
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) FontPath set to unix/:7100
(==) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
(--) using VT number 7

(II) Open APM successful
(II) Module ABI versions:
 XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5
 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3
 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: bitmap
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project
 compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 1.0.0
 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
 ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.3
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: pcidata
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project
 compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 0.1.0
 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x8000600c, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7180 card , rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 
00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,7181 card , rev 03 class 06,04,00 hdr 
01
(II) PCI: 00:04:0: chip 8086,7110 card , rev 01 class 06,01,00 hdr 
80
(II) PCI: 00:04:1: chip 8086,7111 card , rev 01 class 01,01,80 hdr 
00
(II) PCI: 00:04:2: chip 8086,7112 card , rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 
00
(II) PCI: 00:04:3: chip 8086,7113 card , rev 01 class 06,80,00 hdr 
00
(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 102b,051b card 102b,2100 rev 00 class 03,00,00 hdr 
00
(II) PCI: 00:0c:0: chip 10b7,9050 card , rev 00 class 02,00,00 hdr 
00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: scanpci
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor=The XFree86 Project
 compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 0.1.0
 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) UnloadModule: scanpci
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
 [0] -1  0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
 [0] -1  0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
 [0] -1  0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x04 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:4:0), (0,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus -1 I/O range:
(II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range:
(II) Bus -1 prefetchable memory range:
(--) PCI:*(0:7:0) Matrox MGA 2164W rev 0, Mem @ 0xfd00/24, 
0xfedfc000/14, 0xfe00/23
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are
 [0] -1  0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
 [1] -1  0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges:
 [0] -1  0xffe0 - 0x (0x20) 
MX[B](B)
 [1] -1  0x0010 - 

Re: [XFree86] Problem with linux in setting up display driver

2003-02-27 Thread Mark Vojkovich
   We can give you advice on setting up the open source drivers that
come with XFree86.   Basically, the nv driver that ships with XFree86
didn't support GeForce2 Go until recently.  It will work in the upcoming
XFree86 4.3 and in the 4.2.99.x snapshots on ftp.xfree86.org, so you
can get it to work by upgrading to one of those.

   If you want help installing NVIDIA's binary drivers you can get
that from the Linux forum on www.nvnews.net.  Those should work with
your current XFree86 version.


Mark.


On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, dev wrote:

 Hi
  
 I have a Dell 8200 laptop with Pentium 4 and Nvidia GeForce 2 display
 driver. I tried to install Mandrake Linux (8.1, Linux
 2.4.8-5mdkenterprise i686 [ELF]) and as expected the X system didn't
 work properly. I tried to do install the drivers downloaded from Nvidia
 site and but it still doesn't work. I am attaching the logfile with this
 mail. Can you please help me in setting up the display drivers
  
 With best regards
 Dev
  
 Dev SINGHAL
 ENST Bretagne
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 

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[XFree86] intel 845g problems...

2003-02-27 Thread Cardenas
Hello all. 

I have two machines with intel 845g cards, one of which works and one
of which doesn't. The one that doesn't is a dell, and the one that
does is just a white box with an integrated 845g on the motherboard. 

By not working, I mean that the dell only displays at 640x480, and it
draws images improperly, i.e. the desktop image has a bunch of
erroneous lines over the top few inches of the screen, whereas the
other machine can do 1024x768 with no visual errors. These results are
with the i810 driver specified in xf86config-4. Using the vesa driver,
both cards work. 

Attached is the output from both machines of lspci -vv. Both cards
have the same pciid, 8086, 2562, but they have different subsystem
id's. 

Has anyone else seen this problem? I'm wondering if this is caused by
my backporting of the 845 patch or if its a problem with the driver
itself. If noone else has seen this problem, I can try the latest
build of X on the nonworking machine. 

Thanks again for all of your amazing work,

  cardenas

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Re: [XFree86] Keyboard not working with latest CVS

2003-02-27 Thread Iñaki García Etxebarria
On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 03:51, David Dawes wrote:
 It sounds like your Xlib has the wrong path for XKeysymDB.  Did you
 install it in the same ProjectRoot as it was built for (lots of things
 can break if you don't)?
I just did a make install, and there's a XKeysymDB under the ProjectRoot
I built for. The original one is still in its old location, this is the
one it's being read when X starts.

strings .../lib/libX11.so | grep XKeysymDB
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/cvs/X-install/lib strings libX11.so | grep XKeysymDB
/home/garetxe/cvs/X-install/lib/X11/XKeysymDB

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/cvs/X-install/lib ls -l $(strings libX11.so | grep
XKeysymDB)
-r--r--r--1 garetxe  users8298 feb 26 12:29
/home/garetxe/cvs/X-install/lib/X11/XKeysymDB

But it might be just that my system isn't properly configured and the
wrong libX11 (the one under /usr/X11R6/lib/) is loaded instead for some
reason. Looking to the relevant code in libX11 I agree it should work.

Honestly, I don't think you should waste any more time on this unless
someone else with a sane install of everything else sees the same, it
might just as well be a bug somewhere else (in the computer chair
interface probably :-)), and my system works just fine anyway.

Thanks for your patience,
Iaki

PD: Not everything is complaints btw :-), the new X rocks, finally
XVideo for my card and things such as the translucent cursors and easy
font management are very nice, I had been wanting to have them for a
long time. Thanks a lot for the superb work.

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Re: [XFree86] ATI Radeon 7500 series

2003-02-27 Thread Kevin Oberman
 From: neal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:09:39 -0700
 
 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
 
 --=_NextPart_000_002E_01C2DE69.DE312410
 Content-Type: text/plain;
   charset=iso-8859-1
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 I am really wondering..
 with X WINDOWS as good as they say it is.How come there isn't any =
 drivers for ATI Radeon 7500? I installed it and now I can't get rid of =
 it becasue it doesn't support that driver.
 So please have a driver for that someday?

The Radeon 7500 has been supported for a LONG time. I have several.

What version are you running and why do you believe it does not
support the 7500?

4.3 (just out today) does have MUCH improved support for these with
many performance enhancements and bug fixes.

In you configuration, the device should specify 'Driver0 ati'.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
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[XFree86] xfree from source tarballs

2003-02-27 Thread Dennis Veatch
Two different machines, different video cards.

Any attempt to startx and I get and xauth and xinit errors abiyt shared 
libraries and libXmuu.so.1.

The closest thing I could fine is this from Google:

http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2001-Sep/0418.html


Tried it, no joy.
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RE: [XFree86] ATI Radeon 7500 series

2003-02-27 Thread Clarence Wiggins, II
I'm having the same problem with my workstation I also have an ATI Radeon
and the X server just will not start.  I've even installed Xfree86 4.3 today
and still no luck.
I've tried it on 7.2,7.38.0 to no avail.

Thanks,

CMWII

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of Kevin Oberman
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [XFree86] ATI Radeon 7500 series

 From: neal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:09:39 -0700

 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

 --=_NextPart_000_002E_01C2DE69.DE312410
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   charset=iso-8859-1
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 I am really wondering..
 with X WINDOWS as good as they say it is.How come there isn't any =
 drivers for ATI Radeon 7500? I installed it and now I can't get rid of =
 it becasue it doesn't support that driver.
 So please have a driver for that someday?

The Radeon 7500 has been supported for a LONG time. I have several.

What version are you running and why do you believe it does not
support the 7500?

4.3 (just out today) does have MUCH improved support for these with
many performance enhancements and bug fixes.

In you configuration, the device should specify 'Driver0 ati'.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Phone: +1 510 486-8634
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Re: [XFree86] ATI Radeon 7500 series

2003-02-27 Thread Oisin C. Feeley
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, neal wrote:

I am really wondering.. with X WINDOWS as good as they say it is.How
come there isn't any drivers for ATI Radeon 7500? I installed it and
now I can't get rid of it becasue it doesn't support that driver. So
please have a driver for that someday?


Stop wondering. Stop trolling.  Start reading.  

This message posted to you from a machine with an out-of-the-box 3D 
accelerated Red Hat 8.0.

Oisin Feeley.




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RE: [XFree86] ATI Radeon 7500 series

2003-02-27 Thread Oisin C. Feeley
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Clarence Wiggins, II wrote:

I'm having the same problem with my workstation I also have an ATI
Radeon and the X server just will not start.  I've even installed
Xfree86 4.3 today and still no luck. I've tried it on 7.2,7.38.0 to no
avail.

snip unnecessarily long included posts

How do you know it's the same problem?.  It's just the same _symptom_ 
which could be due to one of many problems.  I am _assuming_ that when 
you say 7.2,7.38.0 you refer to versions of the Red Hat distribution?  
If so then should stick with the included version of XFree86 that comes 
with Red Hat 8.0.  

It works for me out of the box with my Radeon 7500.  

If you want more help: examine your log files, see if you can understand 
the problem.  Do a Google search.  Then post on the list asking for 
help.

HTH,
Oisin Feeley

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Re: [XFree86] Help me!

2003-02-27 Thread Marc Aurele La France
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Jacek [iso-8859-2] Pop³awski wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 09:17:58AM +0800, tiongnam wrote:
   My card is ATI card. but my XFree86 didn't work !Hope you can help me.

 In your log I found you are using 4.1.0, it's quite old release and doesn't
 support new ATI cards. Solution: update XFree86.

Better yet, you're running under VMWare, so use the vmware driver.

Marc.

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[XFree86] [XFree86(TM) Bug Report] ATI Radeon 7000/VE, window or menu moving problem at 1280x1024 24bpp

2003-02-27 Thread Marc Mongenet
Regarding: ATI Radeon 7000/VE, window or menu moving problem at 1280x1024 24bpp
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

XFree86 Version: XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: 21 December 2001

OS: Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 woody

Area: Xserver

Server: XFree86 (The XFree86 4.x server)

Video Card:

(II) RADEON(0): initializing int10
(II) RADEON(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
(--) RADEON(0): Chipset: ATI Radeon VE (AGP) (ChipID = 0x5159)
(--) RADEON(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xe800
(--) RADEON(0): MMIO registers at 0xff8f
(--) RADEON(0): BIOS at 0xff8c
(--) RADEON(0): VideoRAM: 65536 kByte (64-bit SDR SDRAM)
(II) RADEON(0): PLL parameters: rf=2700 rd=12 min=12000 max=3; xclk=14500


Description:

When moving a window or opening a menu, horizontal lines appear.
Observed at 1280x1024x24.
Not observed at 1152x864x24 (or lower res), nor at 1280x1024x8.

CPU: Pentium IV 2.4 GHz
mb: Intel D845PESV
RAM: 1 Go

Repeat By:

Debian woody fresh install.
Configure X server for 1280x1024x24bpp (default refresh rate will be 85 Hz)
Open Gnome or KDE, move a window or open menu, observe flicking.

Other report of the bug found with Google Groups
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=xfree86+1280x1024+radeonhl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8selm=9_DM8.8359%24Hj3.26739%40newsfeeds.bigpond.comrnum=1


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Re: [XFree86] [XFree86(TM) Bug Report] ATI Radeon 7000/VE, window or menu moving problem at 1280x1024 24bpp

2003-02-27 Thread Kevin Oberman
Known bug in line drawing acceleration in Radeon driver prior to
4.3. It is supposed to be fixed in that release, but I have not tried
it yet.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Phone: +1 510 486-8634

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc Mongenet)
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:57:40 -0800 (PST)
 
 Regarding: ATI Radeon 7000/VE, window or menu moving problem at 1280x1024 24bpp
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 XFree86 Version: XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
 (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
 Release Date: 21 December 2001
 
 OS: Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 woody
 
 Area: Xserver
 
 Server: XFree86 (The XFree86 4.x server)
 
 Video Card:
 
 (II) RADEON(0): initializing int10
 (II) RADEON(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
 (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: ATI Radeon VE (AGP) (ChipID = 0x5159)
 (--) RADEON(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xe800
 (--) RADEON(0): MMIO registers at 0xff8f
 (--) RADEON(0): BIOS at 0xff8c
 (--) RADEON(0): VideoRAM: 65536 kByte (64-bit SDR SDRAM)
 (II) RADEON(0): PLL parameters: rf=2700 rd=12 min=12000 max=3; xclk=14500
 
 
 Description:
 
 When moving a window or opening a menu, horizontal lines appear.
 Observed at 1280x1024x24.
 Not observed at 1152x864x24 (or lower res), nor at 1280x1024x8.
 
 CPU: Pentium IV 2.4 GHz
 mb: Intel D845PESV
 RAM: 1 Go
 
 Repeat By:
 
 Debian woody fresh install.
 Configure X server for 1280x1024x24bpp (default refresh rate will be 85 Hz)
 Open Gnome or KDE, move a window or open menu, observe flicking.
 
 Other report of the bug found with Google Groups
 http://groups.google.com/groups?q=xfree86+1280x1024+radeonhl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8selm=9_DM8.8359%24Hj3.26739%40newsfeeds.bigpond.comrnum=1
 
 
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Re: [XFree86] Selecting a monitor and changing refresh rate to 85Hz

2003-02-27 Thread ahaning
First: For some odd reason, your message was a reply to the announcement 
about the tagging of XFree 4.3.0. It's helpful if you do not send 
messages as replies to other ones when you mean to start a new thread, 
because you'll help to keep the threads on their own topics.

Now, on to the information you need. By doing a simple search on 
google.com for sony cpd 1430, I found a couple sites that give the 
VSync and HSync for this monitor as:

VSync: 55 - 110Hz
HSync: 28 - 58kHz
So, for XFree 4.X, you just need to add a line like the following to 
your XF86Config file under the Monitor section:

VertRefresh 55-110

Then, under the Screen section, set the DefaultDepth to the desired 
color depth (8bit, 16bit, 24bit color):

DefaultDepth 8

and then, make a SubSection like the following:

SubSection Display
Depth 8
Modes 800x600
EndSubSection
If I'm correct, these entries should get you what you're looking for. 
However, I haven't had time to experiment with your setup, so I could 
very well be wrong.

HTH.

-Andy

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[XFree86] ATI Radeon 7500 series on a Red Hat 8.0 workstation

2003-02-27 Thread Clarence Wiggins, II

I'm having a problem with Xfree86 starting on my workstation.  I'm using Red
Hat 8.0 distribution on a white box.  I know some users have had no problems
with an ATI Radeon 7500 graphics card working on their Red Hat system right
out of the box but for some reason I'm have some problem with it.
I hope I have supplied enough information for someone to help me out.
Thanks for your help,

CMWII


XFree86.0.log
Description: Binary data


XFree86.setup.log
Description: Binary data

# File generated by anaconda.

Section ServerLayout
Identifier Anaconda Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDevice Mouse1 SendCoreEvents
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like .txt or .db).  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.

FontPath   unix/:7100

EndSection

Section Module
Load  dbe
Load  extmod
Load  fbdevhw
Load  dri
Load  glx
Load  record
Load  freetype
Load  type1
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  keyboard

#   Option  AutoRepeat500 5

# when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the
# following line
#   Option  Protocol  Xqueue

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#   Option  Xleds 1 2 3

# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
#   Option  XkbDisable

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#   Option  XkbModel  pc102
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#   Option  XkbModel  microsoft
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#   Option  XkbLayout de
# or:
#   Option  XkbLayout de
#   Option  XkbVariantnodeadkeys
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#   Option  XkbOptionsctrl:swapcaps
Option  XkbRules  xfree86
Option  XkbModel  pc105
Option  XkbLayout us
#Option XkbVariant
#Option XkbOptions
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol PS/2
Option  Device /dev/psaux
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
Option  Emulate3Buttons no
EndSection


Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse1
Driver  mouse
Option  Device/dev/input/mice
Option  Protocol  IMPS/2
Option  Emulate3Buttons   no
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection


Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
HorizSync   30-70
VertRefresh 50-160
Option dpms


EndSection

Section Device
# Some 7500 boards aparently need this option enabled to work - bug (#62760)
# Option CrtScreen
Identifier   ATI Radeon 7500
Driver   radeon
VendorName   ATI Radeon 7500
BoardName ATI Radeon 7500

#BusID
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier   Screen0
Device   ATI Radeon 7500
Monitor  Monitor0
DefaultDepth16

Subsection Display
Depth   16
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480 
EndSubsection

EndSection

Section DRI
Mode 0666
EndSection


[XFree86] resume problem

2003-02-27 Thread Morin

Hello --

after resume from sleep, xclock assumes hardware clock is GMT and adjusts
accordingly

this is incorrect for those of us with the hardware clock set to local
time

-- Monique Morin


This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way.  Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs).

XFree86 Version 4.2.99.902 (4.3.0 RC 2)
Release Date: 17 February 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.7-10custom i686 [ELF] 
Build Date: 18 February 2003
Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Thu Feb 27 17:57:56 2003
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
(==) ServerLayout Default Layout
(**) |--Screen Default Screen (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Selected Monitor
(**) |   |--Device ATI
(**) |--Input Device Default Keyboard
(**) Option XkbRules xfree86
(**) XKB: rules: xfree86
(**) Option XkbModel pc104
(**) XKB: model: pc104
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) XKB: layout: us
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |--Input Device Default Mouse
(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in /usr/share/fonts/truetype.
Entry deleted from font path.
(Run 'mkfontdir' on /usr/share/fonts/truetype).
(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice.
Entry deleted from font path.
(Run 'mkfontdir' on /usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice).
(**) FontPath set to 
unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
(==) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
(++) using VT number 7

(II) Open APM successful
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.2
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.6
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.4
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.2
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.4
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: bitmap
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.99.902, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: pcidata
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.99.902, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,1a30 card , rev 04 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,1a31 card , rev 04 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:1d:0: chip 8086,2482 card 8086,4541 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:1d:2: chip 8086,2487 card 8086,4541 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,2448 card , rev 42 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,248c card , rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,248a card 8086,4541 rev 02 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:5: chip 8086,2485 card 1013,5959 rev 02 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:6: chip 8086,2486 card 14f1,5421 rev 02 class 07,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1002,4c66 card 1028,00d4 rev 01 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:00:0: chip 10b7,9200 card 1028,00d4 rev 78 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:01:0: chip 104c,ac42 card 4000, rev 00 class 06,07,00 hdr 82
(II) PCI: 02:01:1: chip 104c,ac42 card 4800, rev 00 class 06,07,00 hdr 82
(II) PCI: 02:01:2: chip 104c,8027 card 1028,00d4 rev 00 class 0c,00,10 hdr 80
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,7), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x000e (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
[0] -1  0   0xc000 - 0xc0ff (0x100) IX[B]
[1] -1  0   0xc400 - 0xc4ff (0x100) IX[B]
[2] -1  0   0xc800 - 0xc8ff (0x100) 

[XFree86] problem setup X window

2003-02-27 Thread Edi Suardi
Dear sir,

I have problem at setup X window system in RedHat 7.3
this error message :

   XIO: Fatal error 104 (Connection rest by peer) on X server :0.0
after 0 requests (0 known processed)
with 0 evens remaining  
   Fatal server error :
   no screen found

   And prompt this my monitor loss or hiden
   (Parse error on line 102 of section Keyboard in file
/etc/X11/XF86Config ignoring obsolote keyword LeftAlt

   Parse error on line 102 of section keyboard in file
  /etc/X11/XF86Config  META is not Valid keyword in this section.

   My PC used VGA Card adapter : S3 Trio 64V2/DX or /GX 
   and monitor : GTC GM14L 
   How to solution this problem ?

   Thank's

   BestRegard,
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Re: [XFree86] Geforce2 Go and new xfree 4.3

2003-02-27 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Sebastien Cereze wrote:

 Hi everybody,
 
 I checked the graphics card driver list and there's no trace of this card. I guess 
 it's still not working but can somebody confirm it to me ?

   What list are you refering to?  GeForce2 Go should work automagically
with 4.3.  No need for special config file options or anything.


Mark.

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Re: [XFree86] Geforce2 Go and new xfree 4.3

2003-02-27 Thread Mark Vojkovich
  It's not supported with any previous official versions of XFree86.
You need to be running 4.3 or one of the 4.2.99.x pre-4.3
snapshots.  It should just work.


Mark.

On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I am with you.
 I have the video card GeForce2 Go 
 on Redhat Linux 8.0 Dell Laptop Inspiron 2650 video RAM 16MB.
 I'm still trying to figure that out how to attack this
 video card working.
 
 Could you give me some advice how to twist this??
 
 Thanks!
 
 Joe Cho
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Sebastien Cereze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:55 pm
 Subject: [XFree86] Geforce2 Go and new xfree 4.3
 
  Hi everybody,
  
  I checked the graphics card driver list and there's no trace of 
  this card. I guess it's still not working but can somebody confirm 
  it to me ?
  
  Thanks
 
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Re: [XFree86] Geforce2 Go and new xfree 4.3

2003-02-27 Thread Sebastien Cereze
thanks Mark

that's a good news

regards

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [XFree86] Geforce2 Go and new xfree 4.3


 
   It's not supported with any previous official versions of XFree86.
 You need to be running 4.3 or one of the 4.2.99.x pre-4.3
 snapshots.  It should just work.
 
 
 Mark.
 
 On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello,
  
  I am with you.
  I have the video card GeForce2 Go 
  on Redhat Linux 8.0 Dell Laptop Inspiron 2650 video RAM 16MB.
  I'm still trying to figure that out how to attack this
  video card working.
  
  Could you give me some advice how to twist this??
  
  Thanks!
  
  Joe Cho
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Sebastien Cereze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:55 pm
  Subject: [XFree86] Geforce2 Go and new xfree 4.3
  
   Hi everybody,
   
   I checked the graphics card driver list and there's no trace of 
   this card. I guess it's still not working but can somebody confirm 
   it to me ?
   
   Thanks
  
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Re: [XFree86] [XFree86(TM) Bug Report] ATI Radeon 7000/VE, window or menu moving problem at 1280x1024 24bpp

2003-02-27 Thread hy0
  From: George Lindholm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:22:41 -0800
 
  Kevin Oberman wrote:
   Known bug in line drawing acceleration in Radeon driver prior to
   4.3. It is supposed to be fixed in that release, but I have not tried
   it yet.
 
  It's actually gotten worse the last couple of days.
  A couple of days ago I was just getting horizonal lines
  alongside the cursor. With the 4.3 release, I'm getting lines all
  over the screen (2048x1536x24, Radeon 7500)

 Ouch! Sounds like the NoLineAccel option for the ati driver needs to
 be re-implemented. It was in CVS for quite a while but was removed
 when the driver was believed to be fixed. (I only read the CVS logs
 and have nothing to do with actually fixing the code.)


This may not be the line drawing problem.

When you said getting lines all over the screen, did it appear to be
noise/snow or to be some residual lines from previous drawing not being
erased?
If it's first case, that would be display buffer under flow problem.
Otherwise it's line drawing problem. To narrow down the problem, try
following two things:

1. Change to lower resolution (like 1024x768) or color depth (like 16 bpp),
does the problem still happen?
2. Use Option SWcursor in your config file, will this alleviate the
problem?

If these two things have effects on your problem, it's the display buffer
problem. This problem is caused by memory latency to display buffer. It
depends on the type of memory on your card, the resolution/depth you are
using, and hardware cursor mode, etc. There is a way to calculate the
bandwidth requirement and set corresponding registers to avoid this problem.
But this is not implemented in current radeon driver, instead, the driver
just uses the default BIOS settings which worked fine for most cases, but
may have problem with high resolution modes on some cards. 4.3 release can
indeed make this problem more evident when it uses ARGB cursor. If this is
proven to be the case, hopefully it can be taken care of in the near future.

Hui



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[XFree86] error sent-please sent correction

2003-02-27 Thread sivamurugesh arumugam
sir,
i have sent the error i get while viewing X windos applications. please give 
me the corrections for that.

thank you
sivamurugesh


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[XFree86] no Input Device

2003-02-27 Thread Vinayak P Risbud
Hi guys,

How to configure X without any input device
(i.e keyboard and mouse)

Thanks
Vinayak

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