On 2011-05-25 14:41, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:04 AM, David Henningsson
david.hennings...@canonical.com wrote:
Ok, so there is still a high-pitched noise with 5.1, although I tried to fix
that a while ago. I now know what the error is, but perhaps somewhat with
more
the rest of the
implementation) doesn't seem right to me.
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(channels) as well,
does anybody know? Can this be a GCC bug?
(Btw, based on this analysis, I'm guessing that my former fix fixed the
problem for amd64, but not i386.)
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point. Assuming we add a new key to linux/input.h, would it be easy for
you to fix that in the thinkpad-acpi driver? I think it currently
triggers KEY_UNKNOWN.
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On 2011-05-19 20:53, Tanu Kaskinen wrote:
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 13:44 +0200, David Henningsson wrote:
Agree with the port property. About the port vs profile question, I
think we might think that backwards from a user's perspective.
Conceptually I'd say we select port first (manually
On 2011-05-20 10:36, Colin Guthrie wrote:
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On 2011-05-19 20:53, Tanu Kaskinen wrote:
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 13:44 +0200, David Henningsson wrote:
Agree with the port property. About the port vs profile question, I
think
accessory type. I'd probably go with the multiple abstract jacks with
simple on/off status.
Agreed, one jack object for headphone connection, another jack object
for microphone. A headset would typically activate both. The TV might be
a third jack object.
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On 2011-05-13 18:20, Tanu Kaskinen wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 17:29 +0200, David Henningsson wrote:
In short; if we e g have Mic Boost levels at (0dB, 20dB, 40dB and 60dB)
and the user wants 30 dB, better have 20dB in hardware and +10dB in
software than 40dB in hardware and -10dB in software
posted in (see
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-rt/+bug/367671 )
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So I don't think it's ready. The question about how we can make it ready
might be a topic for next week's conference perhaps. See you!
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On 2011-04-27 16:55, David Henningsson wrote:
So I'll do some testing then grab it at some point (tho' need to spend
some time reviewing Margarita's work before next week otherwise Liam and
Mark will find some way to punish me!)
FYI, I've done some review of that code already, and I agree
On 2011-04-27 20:06, Mark Brown wrote:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 05:07:44PM +0200, David Henningsson wrote:
Adding Marga and Liam, not cutting text as a result.
On 2011-04-27 16:55, David Henningsson wrote:
So I'll do some testing then grab it at some point (tho' need to spend
some time
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https://tango.0pointer.de/pipermail/pulseaudio-discuss/attachments/20110420/3c852d6e/attachment.c
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From 73ff6f83e1e4c53181e1794bf2cec3baee7c81b7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: David Henningsson
get an underrun, drop the stream and drop
samples already written.
There should be threads on at least alsa-devel about this, from a year
back or so.
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On 2011-04-20 12:09, Maarten Lankhorst wrote:
Hi David,
Op 20-04-11 09:33, David Henningsson schreef:
On 2011-04-19 18:12, Maarten Lankhorst wrote:
Hi all,
For wine I was investigating a bug with pulseaudio, it seems
alsa-plugins' pulse driver ignores underruns.
Hmm, doesn't wine come
);
-
-pa_close(u-fd);
+if (u-fd = 0)
+pa_close(u-fd);
u-fd = -1;
if (u-sink-thread_info.state == PA_SINK_SUSPENDED) {
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I'm trying to fix a crash a few people have encountered in the upcoming
version of Ubuntu, which uses 0.9.22 plus a few stable-queue patches.
Actually there's a different set of crashes at
modules/raop/module-raop-sink.c:230 as well:
case
On 2011-04-08 17:18, Colin Guthrie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and o...@iki.fi at 08/04/11 15:18 did gyre and gimble:
From: Jyri Sarhajyri.sa...@nokia.com
Before this patch, if any of the paths in a path set do not
support HW volume then the HW volume is disabled for the whole
set. In some cases
starting the module jack detection
module, can you make sure that the card is loaded by PA?
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On 2011-04-05 22:57, Colin Guthrie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and David Henningsson at 05/04/11 13:03 did gyre and gimble:
As I discussed with Tanu Kaskinen yesterday, we should do something
about when one profile path prevents another from using the hw volume
capabilities. However, with Ubuntu
*/
+if (snd_use_case_set(ucm-ucm_mgr, _enadev, Headset.0) 0) {
+pa_log(failed to set device Headset.0);
+return PA_HOOK_CANCEL;
+}
+
+return PA_HOOK_OK;
+}
Ehm, seems like you set it to the Headset device both on plug and unplug...?
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to minimise regression potential.
So, until this is fixed the right way, feel free to use the attached patch.
Bug reference:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/671560
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Just picking up a crash report from Ubuntu, here's the result.
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From: David Henningsson david.hennings...@canonical.com
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:30:44 +0200
that matters much.
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on, shouldn't bad decibel information be fixed
in the kernel, rather than in Pulseaudio? Then other non-PA applications
would benefit from the change as well.
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pass-through patches.
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From: David Henningsson david.hennings...@canonical.com
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:51:33 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] alsa-mixer: Add separate
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element_probe to check_required. Colin, can anything have gone wrong
when you merged it?
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, I can see ports in alsamixer (for capture: mic1, mic2, mic3),
which they can't be enumerated by PA?
I can't tell without having alsa-info but you might to be helped by my
input mixer rewrite, which I'm still trying to get tested and committed
into PulseAudio.
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device.
4) Architecture: Mips64? Never seen HDA Intel connected to anything but
amd64/i386, but I guess it's possible :-)
Btw, feel free to move this thread to alsa-devel, as we're into ALSA
level stuff rather than PulseAudio stuff.
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in 11.04, so I don't plan to start working on it now, but I
might spend some time implementing it for 11.10, i e around May -
August. (No promises though - still too early to know what will happen
and if other things will take more time than expected, etc.)
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, I'm not sure how practical the conf is and whether
the extra day would be needed or beneficial, but my general thoughts
would be more time = more code, so an extra day could still be nice!
I would prefer a separate day. This is because I don't want to miss the
rest of the conference.
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?
Another thing is the pick-up of volume/mute changes in the driver - at
least that's done on the ALSA side. Will that then be pushed through in
the other direction somehow, or...?
Just trying to make sure you haven't missed anything :-)
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kind of indication that the current state is
muted and one can fix it by clicking here would be appreciated!
Thanks!
Are you talking about pavucontrol? I agree that the buttons could be
clearer.
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with David's rewind patches, so that needs to be done too.
From what I can tell, the change seems to be copy-pasted from
protocol-native.c, and so it's probably correct. My rewind patches
shouldn't change that either for better or for worse. That said, of
course testing wouldn't hurt :-)
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stuff in that way will be easier,
hopefully.
Btw, we all seem to be busy with our own stuff only, but we all would
like others to test the stuff we do, so do you want to make a deal? :-)
I'll test some of your patches (tell me which ones) if you test my
pulse-mixer patches.
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1) Bump!
2) The kernel patches mentioned below are all in the 2.6.38 kernel.
On 2011-01-19 17:19, David Henningsson wrote:
On 2011-01-19 16:59, David Henningsson wrote:
Yeah, I guess it's time. Let me know if you want six emails instead of
one.
Over the past few weeks - although there always
On 2011-01-31 12:41, Colin Guthrie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and David Henningsson at 31/01/11 10:46 did gyre and gimble:
On 2011-01-31 10:41, Colin Guthrie wrote:
Thanks for the update David :)
You're welcome :-)
PulseAudio #1 and #2: I believe these should be applied to PulseAudio
upstream
: David Henningsson david.hennings...@canonical.com
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:13:37 +0100
Subject: [PATCH 1/6] alsa-mixer: Add a few well-known descriptions
Add front mic, rear mic, and docking line-in. These are likely to be
present on modern hda chips, for reference see
linux-2.6/sound/pci/hda
On 2011-01-19 16:59, David Henningsson wrote:
Yeah, I guess it's time. Let me know if you want six emails instead of one.
Over the past few weeks - although there always seems to be something
else you have to fix first - I've been working on fixing the
long-standing issues with the pulseaudio
/wiki/BadDecibel
http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2010-February/025213.html
David Henningsson from Canonical also wrote a similar tool:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.pulseaudio.general/7542
I'm not sure off hand what the latest version of that tool
don't mean s[0] - s[1]?
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:-( I was hoping to be able to fix some of that by the time of merge
window for 2.6.38, but I'm not sure I have the time/priority to do so.
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On 2010-12-17 17:39, Marius Bjørnstad wrote:
On 15/12/10 08:41, David Henningsson wrote:
For users running Ubuntu Maverick, there is a ppa for easy testing here:
https://launchpad.net/~diwic/+archive/fighting-rewinds
It also includes two fixes on the gstreamer side.
Hi, I installed the PPA
On 2010-12-09 14:54, David Henningsson wrote:
As some of you have seen on IRC, I spent the some of the last week
fighting rewinds.
An never-ending stream of rewinds seems to be one of the most common
reasons PulseAudio crashes or produces crackling/stuttering output, so
there is a strong
If the amount of data in the implementor buffer is very tiny,
i e even less than what we will likely be asked for, don't ask
for a rewind as that would lead to another underrun.
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On 2010-12-04 19:09, Colin Guthrie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and David Henningsson at 02/12/10 10:38 did gyre and gimble:
On 2010-12-01 16:09, Colin Guthrie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and David Henningsson at 01/12/10 13:55 did gyre and
gimble:
Hi folks,
The way we control mic input is quite broken
people who don't want
it to work that way...I've gone with connect=true as the default to
mimic the behaviour of module-jack-sink and module-jack-source.
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From
makes me thing that speaking to jack directly (as you do)
is the only way to make this work correctly)
'Twas brillig, and David Henningsson at 03/12/10 08:29 did gyre and gimble:
* A question is about the default; patch 2 here adds it to default.pa.
Should connect default to true or false
On 2010-12-01 16:09, Colin Guthrie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and David Henningsson at 01/12/10 13:55 did gyre and gimble:
Hi folks,
The way we control mic input is quite broken. I've tested here with both
IDT codecs and Realtek codecs (the two most common HDA Codecs AFAIK) and
as far as I see
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, and how we can make it better?
Thanks/credits to Vitaliy Kulikov for helping with the analysis.
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This should be a patch without any controversy. Patch is against
stable-queue.
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From: David Henningsson david.hennings...@canonical.com
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010
if file X does not exist, pulseaudio reads things from file Y.
Substitute X=~/.pulse/default.pa, Y=/etc/pulse/default.pa,
things=configuration directives, and repeat with appropriate
substitutions for each of the man pages.
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constant high frequency
noise...more git bisect ahead of me...
It would also be good to know is PULSE_NO_SIMD=1 affects the HF noise,
and if switching to stable-queue affects the HF noise?
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for the volume sync.
Either that, or some kind of volume ramping. Just curious if you
considered that solution as well?
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We have got three confirmations that the patch is working in the bug
below, so I believe it can be safely applied to both master and
stable-queue.
On 2010-10-08 19:00, David Henningsson wrote:
I would kindly ask for comments for this patch before applying, just
double-check that I thought
On 2010-10-13 09:53, Colin Guthrie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and David Henningsson at 13/10/10 07:27 did gyre and gimble:
We have got three confirmations that the patch is working in the bug
below, so I believe it can be safely applied to both master and
stable-queue.
Great!
Would you mind
from this
change.
I'm not exactly sure where and for what PA_VOLUME_MAX is used, but does
it correspond to 0 dB in any way? Thinking assembly, could it be that we
have some e g fixed-point arithmetic that we must compensate?
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and ARM, this could occur
when the number of channels were 3.
Signed-off-by: David Henningsson david.hennings...@canonical.com
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From: David Henningsson
, it set everything to 0 dB and
the input signal received was -3.04 dB. So when setting Master to -18
dB, it expects the input signal to be -18-3.04 = -21.04 dB.
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and install instructions.
When it is installed, run alsamixertest -r for a small tutorial and
alsamixertest -h for command line options help.
Looking forward to your comments about this new little tool! I think it
should be considered beta quality at this point.
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On 2010-09-13 13:03, Colin Guthrie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and David Henningsson at 13/09/10 11:14 did gyre and gimble:
On 2010-09-04 14:10, Colin Guthrie wrote:
I'd be interested as to whether anyone else can repeat this experiment
and get similar results. Do you guys get a broken chordtest too
On 2010-09-04 14:10, Colin Guthrie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and David Henningsson at 03/09/10 09:46 did gyre and gimble:
2010-09-02 16:06, pl bossart skrev:
Agreed: You can pick those two patches, and then we add a third patch to
both branches, which brings back the watermark for tsched devices
the persistent crackling?
The
second is that you could experience underflows if you don't do the
update fast enough. By enabling logs you should be able to find out if
there are real underflows.
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On 2010-09-04 14:10, Colin Guthrie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and David Henningsson at 03/09/10 09:46 did gyre and gimble:
2010-09-02 16:06, pl bossart skrev:
Agreed: You can pick those two patches, and then we add a third patch to
both branches, which brings back the watermark for tsched devices
.
As for the watermark usage, I admit to not knowing enough of CPU
scheduling and wake-up times to either prove Pierre right or wrong.
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From: David Henningsson david.hennings...@canonical.com
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 08:22:36 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] ALSA: Fix calculation of rewind margins
For non-tsched
2010-09-02 10:41, Colin Guthrie skrev:
'Twas brillig, and David Henningsson at 02/09/10 07:29 did gyre and gimble:
2010-09-01 20:06, pl bossart skrev:
Probably either one will work, but if we're about to release 0.9.22
(heard something from Lennart yet?), I suggest we go with my version
2010-08-19 07:32, Tanu Kaskinen skrev:
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 22:55 +0200, David Henningsson wrote:
Yes the safeguard is needed in both cases, timer scheduling or good
ol' audio interrupts. This comes from limitations of the
snd_pcm_rewind() routine, you can rewind the appl_ptr all the way
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2010-08-17 21:10, Colin Guthrie skrev:
'Twas brillig, and David Henningsson at 17/08/10 19:20 did gyre and gimble:
According to what you say in that bug, you could reproduce it yourself
by setting tsched=0, so I'm eager to hear if this fix fixes your issue
as well.
Yeah I was able
. Rewind is not something used
every second or so (or at least, shouldn't be).
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on fragment-size, or something else), but this patch at least fixes the
immediate problem, causing crackling output on (at least) one machine.
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From: David Henningsson
2010-08-17 20:03, Colin Guthrie skrev:
'Twas brillig, and David Henningsson at 17/08/10 19:00 did gyre and gimble:
The tsched watermark variable was incorrectly used even for sinks
with timer scheduling disabled, causing XRUNs on every rewind. This
patch sets a fixed margin of 20 msec
for everyday usage?
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, and Colin's work in
progress is probably a more complete solution, once it is easily
accessible, but I think it does what you want for now.
Michael, will you update the ticket with the changes you did yesterday?
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On 2010-07-23 03:04, Chris wrote:
What is the best way to start PA for debugging and still have all the
usual clients running?
pacmd set-log-level 4
...if your log target is set to syslog, just watch it grow :-)
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On 2010-06-15 20:49, José Tomás Tocino García wrote:
I think that's not the problem, because Gnuplot does not expect a
exact format, it renders whatever it gets.
The thing is, a usual waveform gets positive and negative values all
the time. Sometimes that's what some DSP algorithms use to
On 2010-05-25 01:26, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Wed, 19.05.10 01:00, David Henningsson (launchpad@epost.diwic.se)
wrote:
Heya,
Sometimes the input device shows up at device ID 0, and sometimes device
ID 1, so try both.
Humpf. Why is that so? The driver authors presumably have
I just upgraded from fc11 to fc12. With fc12 comes PA 0.9.21.
Pulseaudio fails to detect any of my audio cards, I have two cards.
I'm positive the problem is with UDEV. When I boot the system,
I'm getting a cryptic message from udev about some {ATTR ... uvent}
file not found. I'm having
On 2010-05-09 13:06, Mihai Sucan wrote:
The problem is with mplayer. I cannot play *any* sound with it, and worse,
it causes PulseAudio to go bonkers. Once I start mplayer, I cannot hear
any sound, from any application.
I tested mplayer from the default Ubuntu repositories [1] and a much
On 2010-04-25 22:11, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Sun, 25.04.10 21:41, David Henningsson (launchpad@epost.diwic.se)
wrote:
which handle corresponds to the thread, or even if that handle is local
or not. Wineserver controls this information so all requests that
involve handles involve
Maarten Lankhorst wrote:
Well, the use case would be wine's wineserver. On windows programs
usually set audio threads to THREAD_PRIORITY_TIME_CRITICAL to indicate
that they have to have a certain priority. But in windows thread handles
are global, so doing it inside wine's 'ntdll' library
Nix wrote:
On 18 Apr 2010, David Henningsson spake thusly:
Both of them were tested by Daniel, and AFAIK neither have been applied
upstream.
These are both alsa-plugin things, right?
Yes.
In that case, they can't fix the hangs I reported back in February,
since these are hangs
Colin Guthrie wrote:
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David Henningsson wrote:
Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Sat, 09.01.10 10:00, David Henningsson (launchpad@epost.diwic.se)
wrote:
The pulse ALSA plugin has been known, for a while, to not work
Brendon Costa wrote:
Hi again,
Thanks for the info on the default devices. I have it working fine now.
However I have run into another problem. When I run my application,
the sinks are working fine and audio sounds good. However the sources
are not working correctly. If i run my app, i
Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 23.03.10 00:36, David Henningsson (launchpad@epost.diwic.se)
wrote:
What is missing is that the jack loop does not depend on the PA sink to
be around resp. the PA IO loop doesn't call into jack when it is
dead. If either of that is implemented
Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Sun, 14.03.10 20:50, David Henningsson (launchpad@epost.diwic.se)
wrote:
On sink unlinking, existing sink inputs are moved, which in turn calls
a get latency callback, which references the jack client. Therefore,
make sure the sink is unlinked before
Chen: let me know if you want this patch as a merge proposal as
well. There is no bug in Launchpad AFAIK.
From fa2dcce3201753bff94adba99b6bc36a7eaf57f9 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: David Henningsson di...@ubuntu.com
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:20:12 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Fix crash on jack server
well. (I'd use the ALSA-PA plugin, but as reported earlier, this
doesn't work either, stuttering like crazy and frequently locking up.
Even with this patch?
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37640450/0001-pulse-Fix-buffer-pointer-issues-improves-recovering-.patch
// David
Heya,
just wanted to point everybody to this new canned response type note
I just added to the wiki:
http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/BadDecibel
I wrote a little tool that can be used to track invalid dB data
exposed by ALSA drivers. Incorrect dB data usually means that playing
a stream in PA
Tristin Celestin wrote:
Is there a downside to making a version of pa_stream_writable_size available
in the
simple API?
Good question. In your use case, can see the use for a function
returning how many bytes that can be written to pa_simple_write without
pa_simple_write blocking.
Why
Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 09.02.10 22:52, David Henningsson (launchpad@epost.diwic.se)
wrote:
There are just too many people for where the ordinary PA setup (all
soundcards are of exclusive use to the person logged into the current X
session) is not acceptable, and worse
Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Wed, 10.02.10 07:14, David Henningsson (launchpad@epost.diwic.se)
wrote:
But printers are more of a system-wide resource, and for some use cases,
so is the soundcard.
This is nonsense. I am not sure how your ears are constructed, but on
a multiseat
Colin Guthrie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and Jeremy Nickurak at 09/02/10 19:24 did gyre and gimble:
This whole thing has been discussed to death, and I really don't feel
like being drawn into the whole thing again.
From what I've read here, I'm afraid it's going to keep coming up until
we solve it
Colin Guthrie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and David Henningsson at 09/02/10 21:52 did gyre and gimble:
I wrote down a few use cases here, I'm sure there are more:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluePrints/multiuser-soundcards-pulseaudio
For user Foo, the sound card sounds like it's dedicated for Foo
To complete the previous patch that implemented properties in rtkit,
here's the client-side code that tests that the properties work, and make
them more accessible for the casual C programmer.
// David
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