Re: ftp by email

2002-07-09 Thread Lena from Kiev

 From:Gue [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I can't sign up (register) to a free
 homepage hosting.

What you tried?  Describe in detail.

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Re: post my site at freeservers.com

2002-07-11 Thread Lena from Kiev

 From:Anton AKA zer@synf [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: Hi everybody!

Please refrain from using non-informative Subject lines.

 Can i post my site at freeservers.com using e-mail?

Did you register on freeservers.com?
Does freeservers.com support uploading via FTP?
If yes then send HELP in the body of a letter to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED].

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Re: Who archive our list at mail-archive.com ??

2002-07-29 Thread Lena from Kiev

 From:Gue [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I was googling something yesterday, and by accident, I found ACCMail
 list archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/accmail@listserv.aol.com/

 I think it's no good. SPAMMER can harvest our mail address from this
 site because this site do not hide email address. Whoever you are,
 please remove our list from mail-archive.com .

If listowner decides to do so, at first archive@jab.org
(the mail-archive.com robot's address) must be unsubscribed or banned;
then mail-archive.com site administrator must be contacted for
removal of previously accumulated archive.

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Re: To find mailing lists...

2002-08-30 Thread Lena from Kiev

 how can I find some mailing lists about my interests , like agriculture or
 other subjects ?

Begin from http://groups.yahoo.com/ , that page contains links
to top level categories, those pages have links to subcategories,
and so on. In directory mailing lists (called groups there)
are sorted by quantity of members.

Or you can use search. Search results are not sorted, so you'll see
plenty of dead lists.

When you find an interesting list, send any letter (can be empty) to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(substitute list name instead of GROUPNAME),
you'll receive a letter with list description and list of
email addresses for subscribing, switching to digest mode and so on.

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Different www4mail servers (was: Problem)

2002-09-03 Thread Lena from Kiev

 From:Dmitry Galaktionov [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Lately I was using [EMAIL PROTECTED], but
 from yesterday it doesn't reply. So I tried [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 And it looks like these servers don't understand right the + symbol, which
 is usually used for creating the search URLs and for the other cases of
 filling forms, when I was creating the one long URL containing the text data
 with words separated by +.
 Maybe they also can't get right the characters of my language (Russian)?
 Anyway, those servers just keep returning me my requests, saying they
 weren't reliable ones, which never hapenned with [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If the URL contains  and  symbols then use %3C and %3E instead of them.
Else show us your letter to www4mail (entirely) and the error message.

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Re: Accmail Filtering

2002-09-18 Thread Lena from Kiev

 From:Bassim M.Assamarrai. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 at last we discovered that the filtering process depends on reading the subject of 
the return messages
 from any server. If the subject line of the reply includes http://  and/or www ,then 
it's
 filtered out. Is there any way to contact the kind people at the WWW4's to delete the
 http:// and the www from the reply subject line since they don't make much difference
 for the user.

They make much difference for me (and not only for me).
I need full URL in Subject. I receive hundreds of letters per day,
I need to sort them in inbox and in archive folders.

 Binky administrator deleted the http:// and now I can get Web pages
 from sites that do not include www in their URL through Binky.

Soon your ISP will notice letters from Binky and change filtering,
you'll again request something else inconvenient for other users,
and so on...  :-(

 Thanks a lot to Mr. Khaled, but using a remailer with all the complications 
encountered
 is the last resort, isn't it?.

So you prefer to inconvenience all other users worldwide
instead of some work for you. :-(

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Re: Remailer without encryption?

2002-09-28 Thread Lena from Kiev

 From:F.M.O [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I want to ask if there is any remailer service that do not use =
 encryption (using PGP program) since it is forbidden to use encryption =
 in my country as stated in the readme document of PGP263i package ...all =
 I want is to send a message to another address indirectly (Through a =
 remailer service) and receive the reply from it (from the remailer)

You needn't to send letters through remailer, you need to receive
letters through remailer. You need a remailer which remails
to you without Subject, moving header of incoming letter
into body of remailed to you letter. You can send letters to
web-mail servers directly, specifying Reply-To line in the header
with your email address on the remailer. I don't know of a remailer
which allows to create user's own email addresses, remails letters
to the user without Subject and doesn't require PGP for creating
user's address on the remailer.

If you use -cryptrecv option of nym.alias.net then you need to use
PGP only once - for sending configuration letter to the remailer.
I suppose that you can append unencrypted version of the letter,
keys and password  after encrypted version of the letter.
Then your government can't accuse you in hiding something: they can
decrypt your letter by themselves and make sure that you hide nothing.
So your letter to config{a}nym.alias.net can look like:

-

-BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-
Version: 2.6.3i

hQEMAk5NDhYLYPHNAQf+Ok55QjsXBXmeE27n3w0Yt5NucNbqZCQAtrExau3V4vyj
...
6MV0A9lyf5XnW3vUteogJLEKSB5g+Vp3zEyygX1E0wy68rHFpp1Spw98DyZDk/KP
Vu991v8uKvca0pfPzXotZwtJhLvwdgOB6XGWHaonrRzc9ZRHfADY
=XddB
-END PGP MESSAGE-

The same letter, unencrypted:

Config:
From: fmobaidi
Nym-Commands: create? +acksend -cryptrecv
Nym-Commands: name=F.M.O
Public-Key:
-BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
Version: 2.6.3i

mQA9AjTi6y8AAAEBgO5G/Bpo/ckAJqLG4u8pzmA7VVw1TYSSc8NcW16BdZlYTtzb
...
Yo6HddBaIj3Hw6kALWZXH41pxVZQUeQ2DfLx//ZOQpPenAWRJ+M9Kxms7L39RA==
=ov/M
-END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
Reply-Block:
::
Anon-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Latent-Time: +0:00

My keys suitable for decrypting the encrypted message above:

-BEGIN PGP SECRET KEY BLOCK-
Version: 2.6.3i

mQENAzIxkrUAAAEH/1mg2l5pTFPwdJZp79M3g+aflsoRFd1QIebXktcg2SIcWc+K
...
+6xOrOE3F3Sc++8F2zNrY/ZJsLsUb5RGEI5u/40s+ASl56KVVw==
=WzM5
-END PGP SECRET KEY BLOCK-

-BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
Version: 2.6.3i

mQA9AjTi6y8AAAEBgO5G/Bpo/ckAJqLG4u8pzmA7VVw1TYSSc8NcW16BdZlYTtzb
...
Yo6HddBaIj3Hw6kALWZXH41pxVZQUeQ2DfLx//ZOQpPenAWRJ+M9Kxms7L39RA==
=ov/M
-END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-

My password: abc

-

How to encrypt:

1. Generate a key pair:

pgp -kg 384

Answers to questions:
fmobaidi
abc
abc

then press random keys until beep.

2. Request the remailer's public key - send
any letter to remailer-key{a}nym.alias.net.
Save the key to file pubkey.nym.

3. Add the remailer's public key to your keyring:

pgp -ka +force -z abc pubkey.nym

Answers to questions:
y
y
y
abc
1

4. Extract your keys:

pgp -kxa fmobaidi mypubkey.asc
pgp -kxa fmobaidi museckey.asc secring.pgp

5. Create (by a text editor) the file for encryption
(see above, from the Config: line to the Latent-Time: line)
in a file file.txt

6. Encrypt:

pgp -seat +force file.txt nym.alias.net fmobaidi -z abc -u fmobaidi -o file.cry

Note that two userids are specified: nym.alias.net and fmobaidi.
So the encrypted file can be decrypted either by the remailer
or using your key pair.

7. Create (by a text editor) the letter
(see above, between long --- lines)
in a file letter.txt

8. Check that the letter can be decrypted using keys in the letter:

pgp -z abc letter.txt -o decrypte.txt

Answers to questions:
n
n
n

9. Send the letter (from the file letter.txt) to config{a}nym.alias.net.

10. When you receive a letter with the words you must confirm,
send any letter directly to the specified long address beginning from
confirm+ and ending with @nym.alias.net. Then you must receive letter
with words Your new reply block has been confirmed and installed.
Your mail alias is currently active.

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Re: ftpmail - is nonstandard port possible?

2002-11-26 Thread Lena from Kiev
 From:Eugeny Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sometimes ftp links contain instructions to use specific port that differ
 from standard ftp port.
 Smth like this
 ftp://ftp.somesite.com:8080/2_208/01/01.ext

 we normally send command to ftpmail server this way:

 open ftp.somesite.com anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 uuencode
 size 102400
 cd 2_208/01
 get 01.ext
 quit

 Where is the place inside these commands to specify nonstandard port?

Try

open ftp.somesite.com:8080

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Re: antivirus vs large files?

2003-06-01 Thread Lena from Kiev
 From:Pedro Castro Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I'm having a problem with my server's antivirus agent: whenever I ask a =
 www4 for a large file (usually pdfs, which are divided into several =
 messages), it is deleted and I receive a notification from the server. =
 As it always happens this way, there is no possibility that all such =
 files could be virus-infected. What can I do to overcome this problem?

You can use a PGP-encoding remailer such as nym.alias.net.
It's difficult, but possible. Send any letter to  help @ nym.alias.net 
and request http://www.stack.nl/~galactus/remailers/nym.html

A DOS version of PGP program necessary for using such remailers:
ftp://ftp.pgpi.com/pub/pgp/2.x/pc/msdos/pgp263i.zip
It can be used also in DOS window/session of Windows 3.1, 95, 98
and some of newer Windows.

You needn't to use Type-1 remailers when you use a nymserver.
Example of confiruration file (you must encrypt it by PGP):


Config:
From: pedrocastro
Nym-Commands: create? +acksend
Nym-Commands: name=Pedro Castro Alvarez
Public-Key:
-BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
Version: 2.6.3i

mQA9AjTi6y8AAAEBgO5G/Bpo/ckAJqLG4u8pzmA7VVw1TYSSc8NcW16BdZlYTtzb
...
Yo6HddBaIj3Hw6kALWZXH41pxVZQUeQ2DfLx//ZOQpPenAWRJ+M9Kxms7L39RA==
=ov/M
-END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
Reply-Block:
::
Anon-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Latent-Time: +0:00


How to encrypt:

1. Generate a key pair:

pgp -kg 384

Answers to questions:
pedrocastro
abc
abc

then press random keys until beep.

2. Request the remailer's public key - send
any letter to  remailer-key @ nym.alias.net .
Save the key to file pubkey.nym.

3. Add the remailer's public key to your keyring:

pgp -ka +force -z abc pubkey.nym

Answers to questions:
y
y
y
abc
1

4. Extract your key:

pgp -kxa perdocastro mypubkey.asc

5. Create (by a text editor) the file for encryption
(see above, from the Config: line to the Latent-Time: line)
in a file file.txt

6. Encrypt:

pgp -seat +force file.txt nym.alias.net -z abc -u pedrocastro -o file.cry

7. Send the letter to  config @ nym.alias.net .

8. When you receive a letter with the words you must confirm,
send any letter directly to the specified long address beginning from
confirm+ and ending with @nym.alias.net. Then you must receive letter
with words Your new reply block has been confirmed and installed.
Your mail alias is currently active.

 I =
 thought of the possibility of asking www4s to zip the file, how can I do =
 that?

Good antiviruses search inside zip-archives too. But good antiviruses
don't give so many false positives.

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Posting to newsgroups?

2003-06-29 Thread Lena from Kiev
Hi,

Does anyone know how to post to the news.admin.net-abuse.email newsgroup
using accmail methods?

mail2news()anon.lcs.mit.edu (also known as mail2news()nym.alias.net)
and usenet-gateway()mixmaster.shinn.net (also known as
mail2news()shinn.net and mail2news()freedom.gmsociety.org)
haven't this newsgroup. I got no reply to my letter with
Subject: help to mail2news()dizum.com.
I couldn't login to Google Groups via www4mail.

Thanks,

Lena
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Re: russian accmail

2003-07-19 Thread Lena from Kiev
 From:Dymitr Wisniewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Can somebody tell me how to subscribe to russian
 accmail.

Send empty letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and reply to the letter Please confirm your request to join accmailrus
(content of reply can be empty). After that send your questions to
accmailrus()yahoogroups.co.uk.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please confirm your request to join accmailrus
(). 
 accmailrus()yahoogroups.co.uk.

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New mail2ftp server

2003-08-17 Thread Lena from Kiev
The machine treelife.org.ua perhaps was cracked in June 2003, was down
for some time, is unstable.  rootshell.be can be closed at any time
(see http://rootshell.be ). So I made one more mail2ftp server
on the webhosting I pay for (with limited / paid by me traffic).
All mail2ftp servers still are free for users.
Current list of mail2ftp servers:

mail2ftp()rootshell.be (Brussels, Belgium)
mail2ftp()tg.org.ua(Atlanta, USA)
mail2ftp()treelife.org.ua  (Lviv, Ukraine)

Manual (instruction) can be ordered by sending one word help
in the body of a letter to any _one_ of these three servers.

Please don't publish email addresses of mail2ftp servers
and their manual on webpages, on mailing lists and newsgroups
because it causes spam to servers.
mail2ftp()treelife.org.ua receives 4000 spam letters per day.
Instead link to two pages with list of email addresses
of mail2ftp servers and explanation how to order their manual:
http://lena.kiev.ua/mail2ftp/ and http://mail2ftp.hypermart.net
Besides, email addresses and manual will become obsolete
with time, these pages always will contain current info.
Don't create sources of obsolete info.

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Re: HOW CAN I CHANGE WITH AN ACCMAIL SERVER?

2003-09-27 Thread Lena from Kiev
 From:Ricky Lomey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Capital (big) letters means shouting. Shouting is impolite.
I well could refuse to answer your question.
Next time don't wonder that your questions aren't answered.

 they allow us to change our
 options by E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] in addition to subscribe and unsubscribe

For Topica:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To switch from digest to  get all the messages:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Topica hasn't NoMail command via email, it can be done only on
the website. If the list is with open membership then you can use
unsubscribe and subscribe commands instead.

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Re: Filling large text fields

2003-10-21 Thread Lena from Kiev
 From: Dmitry Shintjakov [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Is it possible to fill large text fields in forms through email ?

It is possible with getweb, www4mail and mail2ftp/HTTPPOST.

With www4mail: Use XFORMREPLY=TEXT, then:

fieldname=[first line
second line
...
last line]

In the text replace some characters by 3-bytes sequences:
%  %25
  %3C
  %3E
  %22
'  %27
[  %5B
]  %5D

Add two blanks at the end of each line.

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Re: WWW4MAIL SEND

2004-02-20 Thread Lena from Kiev
 From:Ricky Lomey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 How can I make sure that I only receive
 text in the message body

 rather than the text with interfering descriptions of fonts, colour, body,
 etc?

You can't. The cause is sloppiness of some webmasters and HTML editors.
An example of correct way to code style sheets:

style!--
td { font:sans-serif; }
.menu { color:#ff }
//--/style

If somebody mindless (or a dumb HTML editor) codes incorrectly:

style
td { font:sans-serif; }
.menu { color:#ff }
/style

then the page looks same in Micr0$oft Internet Explorer.
But www4mail uses Lynx which doesn't recognize style /style tags.
So it interprets what is between them and isn't hidden by !-- --
as text.

The only alternative for you is to request HTML source
(by TSOURCE, SOURCE, XGET or XSOURCE command of www4mail)
and view pages in a browser (such as Internet Explorer) offline.

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Re: Email only searches with GOOGLE!

2004-03-25 Thread Lena from Kiev
 From:Richard F Strait [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 At one time I was able to use quote marks [] in searches with GOOGLE as
 per the following example!

   send http://www.google.com/search?q=search
 criterianum=50

 Now I am getting an error when using this method!

 I'm email only and use either AGORA or WWW4MAIL!

Your mail program splitted the command to two lines.
Do not make so many blanks before the word send.

If you don't then use three symbols  %22
instead if every quote mark
and  +  instead of each blank. For your example:

send http://www.google.com/search?q=%22search+criteria%22num=50

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Websites of web-mail servers

2004-08-24 Thread Lena from Kiev
I forgot to specify websites of mentioned servers:
http://vancouver-webpages.com/webgate/
http://www.pagegetter.com/
http://www.web2mail.com/
http://www.grabpage.com/
http://grabpage.cs.pdx.edu/

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Working servers (was: About www4mail servers)

2004-08-24 Thread Lena from Kiev
 From:Sun Zoom Spark [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I believe the following WWW4MAIL information to be accurate ...

 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Didn't reply today, but worked recently (last visited my website on August 1).

 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

| [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Deferred: Connection refused by pas2.physics.iastate.edu.
| Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
| Will keep trying until message is 5 days old

 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Doesn't work for long time.

 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Replied today.

 If a few ACCMAIL subscribers (preferably on different continents) were
 to test these WWW4MAIL servers now, and then report back to this list,
 we could say we have taken the first step towards a new ACCMAIL FAQ.

Replied:

iliad()prime.jsc.nasa.gov   (Subject: start iliad)
getweb()usa.healthnet.org
agora()dna.affrc.go.jp
webgate()vancouver-webpages.com
text()PageGetter.com  (URL in body)
gopher()dna.affrc.go.jp
gophermail()eunet.cz

All three mail2ftp servers work. Please never publish their email addresses,
instead link to http://lena.kiev.ua/mail2ftp/

Doesn't work (temporarily?):
www()web2mail.com  (and its page subscription service) - replies with:
| Can't connect to localhost:3128 (connect: Connection refused)

Didn't reply:
ftpmail()btoy1.rochester.ny.us
ftpmail()ftp.sunet.se
ftpmail()informatik.uni-oldenburg.de
ftpmail()mail.iif.hu
mailserver()ftp.funet.fi
agora()capri.mi.mss.co.jp

Didn't reply today though worked recently:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Host unknown:
binky()junoaccmail.org
iliad()rosy.tenet.utexas.edu
agora()kamakura.mss.co.jp

User unknown:
mail-server()cs.ruu.nl

Temporary? error:

| page()grabpage.org... Deferred: Operation timed out with grabpage.cs.pdx.edu.
| Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
| Will keep trying until message is 5 days old

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Servers (P.P.S.)

2004-09-01 Thread Lena from Kiev
mail-server()rtfm.mit.edu replied with 40 hours delay
(August 27 14:29 - August 29 06:23).

 page()grabpage.org... Deferred: Operation timed out with grabpage.cs.pdx.edu.
 Message could not be delivered for 5 days
 Message will be deleted from queue

 www4mail()collaborium.org... Deferred: Connection refused by 
 pas2.physics.iastate.edu.
 Message could not be delivered for 5 days
 Message will be deleted from queue

 agora()capri.mi.mss.co.jp... Deferred: Operation timed out with capri.mi.mss.co.jp.
 Message could not be delivered for 5 days
 Message will be deleted from queue

Grabpage last visited my website (with pages about mail2ftp
often accessed by accmail methods) on February 25,
collaborium - on December 22 (and stopped to send letters months before that),
www4mail()ftp.uni-stuttgart.de - in November 18,
Agoras other than @dna.affrc.go.jp - in May 2003;
last letter from kabissa I found on my HDD was in November 2002.

So, can be marked as defunct:
page()grabpage.org
www4mail()collaborium.org
www4mail()ftp.uni-stuttgart.de
www4mail()kabissa.org
ftpmail()btoy1.rochester.ny.us
ftpmail()ftp.sunet.se
ftpmail()informatik.uni-oldenburg.de
ftpmail()mail.iif.hu
agora()capri.mi.mss.co.jp
agora()kamakura.mss.co.jp
binky()junoaccmail.org
iliad()rosy.tenet.utexas.edu
mail-server()cs.ruu.nl

www()web2mail.com subscription service last emailed me a page in June
but still sends letters (with error message), so perhaps doesn't deserve
the defunct designation yet.

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Re: Relevance of Gopher-by-Email in 2004

2004-09-01 Thread Lena from Kiev
 From:Sun Zoom Spark [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Now, I can't find a single working gopher site anywhere on the
 Internet. Maybe they have all gone -- does anybody know?

Some gopher sites mentioned on this list by Gerald Boyd still work:
gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1
gopher://ftp.std.com/1
gopher://gopher.well.sf.ca.us/1

A list of gopher sites:
gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/world/

Besides, gophermail can be used for downloading from HTTP (and FTP?).

Currently many webservers host several websites
(with different domain names) each. Such webservers need to know
which domain name is requested. Gophermail doesn't supply
Host HTTP request header line. A workaround - to specify hostname
not only in Host line, but also in Path line, an example:

Split=0
Name=about mail2ftp servers
Type=0
Port=80
Path=GET http://lena.kiev.ua/mail2ftp/
Host=lena.kiev.ua
#
Split=0
Name=decoder of 8bit text encoded by Getweb server
Type=9
Port=80
Path=GET http://lena.kiev.ua/getweb.exe
Host=lena.kiev.ua

It's not standard, but many webservers understand that.

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Re: Updating the FAQ

2004-09-08 Thread Lena from Kiev
 From:Sun Zoom Spark [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Right now, there is a weekly automated posting to alt.bbs.internet,
 alt.online-service, alt.internet.services, alt.answers, comp.mail.misc,
 comp.answers, news.answers, and news.newusers.questions. The posts to the
 usenet *answers groups ensure that the FAQ appears on faqs.org, and on the
 rtfm.mit.edu autoresponder and FTP server. As far as we know, the automated
 posting originates on expita.com, which is running on auto-pilot.

I don't think so. Today
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email
begins from header containing:

 Message-ID: internet-services/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Supersedes: internet-services/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The number here is date-time in Unix format (seconds since January 1, 1970).

 Expires: 1 Jun 2004 12:02:03 GMT
 X-Last-Updated: 2002/04/16

 Approved: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Originator: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 12 May 2004 12:03:01 GMT

 NNTP-Posting-Host: penguin-lust.mit.edu
 X-Trace: 1084363381 senator-bedfellow.mit.edu 564 18.181.0.29

A more fresh message retrieved from groups.google.com (by accmail methods:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Gerald+E.+Boyd%22+%22Internet+by+E-mail+FAQ%22num=100hl=enlr=safe=offsa=Ntab=wgfilter=0
and then 
http://groups.google.com/groups?output=gplainoe=windows-1251selm=internet-services/access-via-email_1094530801%40rtfm.mit.edu
 ):

 Message-ID: internet-services/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Supersedes: internet-services/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Expires: 27 Sep 2004 04:20:01 GMT
 X-Last-Updated: 2002/04/16

 Approved: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Originator: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 07 Sep 2004 04:20:03 GMT

 NNTP-Posting-Host: penguin-lust.mit.edu
 X-Trace: 1094530803 senator-bedfellow.mit.edu 569 18.181.0.29

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Re: The relevancy of the internet over SMTP and it's role in the future...?

2005-08-04 Thread Lena from Kiev
 From:Nicholas Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: The relevancy of the internet over SMTP

Not only over SMTP. For 9 years my access was over dial-up UUCP.

 I realize that only about 15% of the world has Internet access and that very
 few of those people have a fiber local loop but even so, what benefits do
 you see being realized from having the ability to access The Internet via
 email considering the current and proposed infrastructures?

Comcast is an ISP in USA. Don't assume that everybody everywhere has
same income and same options as you have. For example, my phone is still
connected via ancient mechanical-coordinate (analog) phone station of the
state phone company. 14400 bit/s dial-up connection via it is not very stable
(often disconnects even during short UUCP sessions), faster - really unstable.
The UUCP user software automatically redials and resumes transmission from
the breakpoint, not from the beginning - big advantage in comparison with
POP3/SMTP over PPP. Average monetary income here is about US $40/month (sic),
it's for all - food, rent, clothes, medicines, taxes etc., far not only
for Internet access. Computers are as expensive as in USA.
Imagine living on $40/month.  Then you'll take numbers below more seriously.
Besides monthly flat fee, the state phone company requires also pay by second
of talks and dial-up sessions $0.43/hour (soon the rate will double),
it's in addition to ISP fee. Cheapest night (8PM-8AM) +weekends call-back
(ISP calls the user in order for user to avoid paying to the phone company
by minute for all time of dial-up sessions) is $22/month, works with far not
every phone station (I didn't try mine). Private phone companies are far more
expensive. I paid flat fee $3.28/month to my previous ISP for unlimited UUCP
(dial-up email-only) access, plus to the phone company by second for
dial-up sessions time (minimal possible thanks UUCP advantages).
Now I'm paying $32/month for DSL with download speed limited to 160 Kbit/s
(including PPPoE and LLC incapsulations), upload speed limited to 64 Kbit/s,
traffic (max of incoming and outgoing) crossing my country border limited to
1200 MB/month (more is $0.048/MB). The phone station was equipped by DSL
(one ISP only) only this year. Almost-cable (cable to the apartment complex,
twisted wire Ethernet inside it, nominally 64 Kbit/s, really slower because
outside connection of the ISP is overloaded) is $40/month.
GPRS (via cellphone) traffic is prohibitively expensive ($2.12/MB).
No other economically feasible options in the apartment complex I live in.
I'm living in the state capital, my situation is typical.
Worse in most other regions of CIS.

Another sizable category of email-only users in CIS - those who use computers
at work for private access. Employers have to pay to ISP for traffic,
very expensive (for example $70/GB), so they don't give online access
to emloyees for surfing, but give email-only access usually for free.

 It just seems
 to me like a solution for a very different internet

Very different income/fees ratio.

 and that in the coming
 days there will seldom be a person who is email enabled that doesn't also
 have essentially unrestricted and unlimited internet access as well.

Will you continue to say for everybody
and assume that world ends at USA border?

Lena
http://lena.kiev.ua/mail2ftp/

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Re: file by mail

2005-10-03 Thread Lena from Kiev
 From:Arno Schuh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 is it still possible to redrive a file by mail?
 I requested a stats.txt from newserv.com and I can't find a service that 
 offers to redrive a file from a www server (only sites
 itself).

www4mail (up to 6 MB)
gophermail (if one is still alive) - no limit.
Possibly others too.

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Re: Use of gophermail

2005-10-05 Thread From Lena from Kiev
 From:Raibel E. Botta Rigores [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 how can I use gophermail to download a resource from www Server?

What I posted here an year ago:

-

Currently many webservers host several websites
(with different domain names) each. Such webservers need to know
which domain name is requested. Gophermail doesn't supply
Host HTTP request header line. A workaround - to specify hostname
not only in Host line, but also in Path line, an example:

Split=0
Name=about mail2ftp servers
Type=0
Port=80
Path=GET http://lena.kiev.ua/mail2ftp/
Host=lena.kiev.ua
#
Split=0
Name=decoder of 8bit text encoded by Getweb server
Type=9
Port=80
Path=GET http://lena.kiev.ua/getweb.exe
Host=lena.kiev.ua

It's not standard, but many webservers understand that.

-

But today gopher()dna.affrc.go.jp and gophermail()eunet.cz
didn't reply to me (yet?).

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Re: Russian host refusing mail from www4mail

2007-01-23 Thread Lena from Kiev
 From:sun zoom spark [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subscribers in Russia might have some explanation for this. Mail from
 www4mail at szs.net to host erec.ru is rejected at the SMTP stage:
 Domain erec.ru does not accept mail from www4mail ...

http://erec.ru shows that it's a state research facility working on
security of nuclear power plants. Apparently, security staff of such
facility is a little paranoid. :)

 Host mail.ru was rejecting all
 mail from our AOL listserv.

mail.ru is a very large (possibly the largest; domains list.ru, inbox.ru,
bk.ru also are theirs) free mail service (like for example
http://mail.yahoo.com , but mail.ru as well as most other Russian
free mail services offers POP3 access for free).
mail.ru support are lamers. Perhaps not only support.

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Re: Problem of getting webpage

2007-04-18 Thread Lena from Kiev
 From:Goutam [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 http://www.ndtvcooks.com/showonlyrecipe.asp?cond=findid=2935category=Meatlamb.
 
 In reply from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I received the webpage. But it is not the 
 full page. Text under RECIPE is blank.
 
 What is the problem?

That page uses JavaScript for loading the text after the page is loaded
by browser.

 Is there any method to get the full page?

It's difficult. To find another website with similar content is easiler.

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Re: www4mail at szs.net will not respond to Yahoo addresses

2008-04-03 Thread Lena from Kiev
 From:sun zoom spark [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 We have also decided, in principle, that we should not
 accept requests from any of the free web-based email
 services

Many free mail services are web-based only at first glance.
They also allow forwarding and free POP3+SMTP access
used by accmailers.

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Re: www4mail at szs.net will not respond to Yahoo addresses

2008-04-05 Thread Lena from Kiev
 From:Mike Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Many free mail services are web-based only at first glance.
   They also allow forwarding and free POP3+SMTP access
   used by accmailers.
 
 Maybe I'm missing something here; if one has either webmail or
 POP3/SMTP email access, that means one has TCP/IP access to the
 Internet, right?

Sometimes the TCP/IP access is limited in some ways.

1. Note: forwarding too.

2. Some ISP allow limited TCP/IP access cheaper, for free for test purposes
or as an incentive. In such cases users can access a limited set of websites,
but the rest of WWW (port 80) is blocked. However POP3 access in such cases
can be unlimited, or include one of free mail services (possibly
served by the ISP - available for both limited users and all the rest
of the world).

3. Some corporate firewalls are like the 2.

4. For example for me TCP/IP traffic inside my country (going through
UA-IX - Ukrainian Internet exchange point) is free (limited only by
speed - in my case 512 Kbit/s incoming), but TCP/IP traffic from
foreign servers is limited (for me 1250 MB/month), above that it's paid
by megabyte, prohibitively expensive. However most of Ukrainian
free mail services are available through UA-IX. So I use accmail method
and a free Ukrainian mail service (allowing POP3 access for free) in order
to download large files from foreign servers. I use my own web-mail servers,
but few accmailers can write such server. I don't allow others to use
my web-mail servers because resulting massive traffic would be noticed
by the free hosting, and my account would be terminated.

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Re: Problem retrieving files with www4mail

2008-09-09 Thread Lena from Kiev
 I think the problem is that the server by some strange cause treats
 binary file like ascii files... if any knows any solution, please !

Use XUUENCODE command.

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