Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread Rene Herman
On 21-08-08 16:15, Grant wrote:

 I'm going to donate a 24-bit capable sound card to the mpd project to
 add 24-bit support.  Can anyone recommend an inexpensive one that is
 24-bit capable and PCI, PCIe, or USB?

For inexpensive, I believe one of the CMI cards would be a good choice. 
Note, I haven't any and you want to check specific support for (the 
exact chip on) the one you'd get but as far as I'm aware, any current 
CMI chip does 24-bit.

Rene.

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Re: [Alsa-user] echo after playing the sound

2008-08-22 Thread Pawel K
--- On Wed, 7/23/08, stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From: stan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] echo after playing the sound
    To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Cc: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net
    Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 2:13 PM

    Pawel K wrote:
      
        Do you have the same effect playing a .wav filw which is 
     originally .wav,
        i.e.
        not obtained from .mp3
 ?
     
 
   
    
 My point/intent is to
 separate MP3 decoding and ALSA.
      
      
       No I don't have this effect when playing wav files.
     
       So, it's not an ALSA issue.
     
       Try various MP3 decoders, e.g. mpg123, mpg321, mplayer.
     
     I have upgraded my system and alsa does not play the beginning of my the 
     samples.
     The aplay does not play the beginning as well.
    Is the beginning there?  Use something like audacity to 
    look at the file.  The beginning might be missing.
    This doesn't sound like an alsa problem, it sounds like
    something is wrong with the file you are
 playing.
     
    You haven't given enough information to help you. 
    *You* know what you mean by upgraded, but no one here 
    does.  *You* know what does not play the beginning* 
    means but no one here does.  *You* know what samples 
    you are talking about, but no one here does.  No one on 
    the list knows anything about your problem except what 
    you explicitly state, so be descriptive and specific.

    e.g. 5 seconds of audio at the start of a wav file that 
    I expect to be there doesn't play when using aplay.  I 
    have used audacity to load the file and confirmed that 
    the 5 seconds of audio are actually there.

     I don't have any idea of how to solve
 this problem.
     Give me some indications please.
     
    You have to give us a better indication of what the 
    problem is before we can recommend any solutions.

    Also, run the script found at 
    http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
    and post the link back here.

     Thank You
     

    All that said, it still might not be possible to help 
    you, but there will be a better chance.

Sorry for beeing not exhaustive.
I found that mplayer sometimes can play whole sample while aplay and play never 
play whole sample.
Less than one second at the beginning of the sample is NOT played.
The defect sounds the same both in mplayer, aplay and play.

mplayer plays the whole sample right after the
 startup.
Later on after a few hour of working on my machine mplayer stops playing the 
whole sample.
In this case mplayer outputs the following message:
/dev/dsp busy
It of course takes less than a second and than plays the sample withous this 
short beginning.

aplay an play don't show any suspicious message. They just don't play the very 
short beginning of a sample.

Below is more detailed information about my system:
- the sample file is surely complete.
  it is wav file.
  its total time is about 2 seconds.
- alsa-tools-1.0.16
  aplay: version 1.0.16
- alsa-info.txt attached
- kernel vanilla 2.6.24.3:
* Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
* Sequencer dummy client
*   OSS Mixer API 
 
*   OSS PCM (digital audio) API
[*] OSS PCM (digital audio) API - Include plugin syst
[*]   OSS Sequencer API   
    RTC Timer support
[ ]   Dynamic device file minor numbers
[*]   Support old ALSA API
[*]   Verbose procfs contents
[ ]   Verbose printk
[ ]   Debug

Thank You for any help



  upload=truescript=truecardinfo=
!!
!!ALSA Information Script v 0.4.51
!!

!!Script ran on: Pt, 22 VIII 2008, 10:51:36 CEST


!!Linux Distribution
!!--

Gentoo Base System release 1.12.11.1


!!Kernel Information
!!--

Kernel release:2.6.24.7
Operating System:  GNU/Linux
Architecture:  i686
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz
SMP Enabled:   Yes


!!ALSA Version
!!

Driver version: 1.0.15
Library version:1.0.16
Utilities version:  1.0.16


!!Loaded ALSA modules
!!---



!!Soundcards recognised by ALSA
!!-

 0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
  HDA Intel at 0xfe9dc000 irq 16


!!PCI Soundcards installed in the system
!!--

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation HD Audio Controller (rev 02)


!!Advanced information - PCI Vendor/Device/Susbsystem ID's
!!

00:1b.0 0403: 8086:293e (rev 02)
Subsystem: 1028:0211


!!Loaded sound module options
!!--


!!HDA-Intel Codec information
!!---
--startcollapse--

Codec: Analog Devices AD1984
Address: 0
Vendor Id: 0x11d41984
Subsystem Id: 0x10280211
Revision Id: 0x100400
No Modem Function Group found
Default PCM:
rates [0x7ff]: 8000 11025 16000 22050 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 
192000
bits [0xe]: 

Re: [Alsa-user] Jetway NC62k, alc883 with iec958: pro blems with mp3 playback

2008-08-22 Thread Nylan
Solved the /dev/dsp issue:
But no success with mp3 playback.

Used the realtek alsa drivers:
no success

Used the latest alsa drivers:
no success

Booting Windows XP:
playing mp3s works perfectly


The same configuration worked for ADI1988B, must be a alc883 issue.

No ideas?

Thanks




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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread James Shatto
I picked up a Delta 44 (pci / ice1712) off of craigslist for $100.  I would 
check to see what they need first.  The Delta is a fine card, but by the time 
you add in a microphone preamp, headphone preamp, and stuff just to record / 
playback stuff.  Not to mention the costs of cables and adapters relative to a 
typical household existing items.

Recording wise 24 bit gives you a greater dynamic sampling range.  But for most 
people it's not needed for playback as your CDs and DVDs are already in a 16 
bit format.  And the benefit on playback is minimal.  Aside from generally 
being a better soundcard, rather than from the media that it will be playing.  
Are you looking for a card that only does 24 bit?  Most that I know of do 16 
and 24 bit.  And the only 24 bit media I have is that that I created myself.


 I'm going to donate a 24-bit capable sound card to the mpd project to
 add 24-bit support.  Can anyone recommend an inexpensive one that is
 24-bit capable and PCI, PCIe, or USB?

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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread Grant
 I picked up a Delta 44 (pci / ice1712) off of craigslist for $100.  I would 
 check to see what they need first.  The Delta is a fine card, but by the time 
 you add in a microphone preamp, headphone preamp, and stuff just to record / 
 playback stuff.  Not to mention the costs of cables and adapters relative to 
 a typical household existing items.

 Recording wise 24 bit gives you a greater dynamic sampling range.  But for 
 most people it's not needed for playback as your CDs and DVDs are already in 
 a 16 bit format.  And the benefit on playback is minimal.  Aside from 
 generally being a better soundcard, rather than from the media that it will 
 be playing.  Are you looking for a card that only does 24 bit?  Most that I 
 know of do 16 and 24 bit.  And the only 24 bit media I have is that that I 
 created myself.

16-bit and 24-bit support should be fine.  One of the authors wants to
add 24-bit support but needs hardware with 24-bit support so he can
test.

The reason I'm interested in 24-bit support is I want to buy a
particular USB DAC that oversamples everything to 24-bit.  I must
admit I'm also interested in the minimal benefit of 24-bit source
material (DVD-A, etc).

- Grant


 I'm going to donate a 24-bit capable sound card to the mpd project to
 add 24-bit support.  Can anyone recommend an inexpensive one that is
 24-bit capable and PCI, PCIe, or USB?

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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread Grant
 I'm going to donate a 24-bit capable sound card to the mpd project to
 add 24-bit support.  Can anyone recommend an inexpensive one that is
 24-bit capable and PCI, PCIe, or USB?

 For inexpensive, I believe one of the CMI cards would be a good choice.
 Note, I haven't any and you want to check specific support for (the exact
 chip on) the one you'd get but as far as I'm aware, any current CMI chip
 does 24-bit.

According to this:

http://www.cmedia.com.tw/?q=en/pci_audio

The only CMI card that does 24-bit is the CMI8787 and I literally
can't find it for sale online.  The site does say Linux driver
available though.

- Grant

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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread Mark Constable
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:37:31 am Grant wrote:
  I'm going to donate a 24-bit capable sound card to the mpd project to
  add 24-bit support.  Can anyone recommend an inexpensive one that is
  24-bit capable and PCI, PCIe, or USB?

Just a non-relevent FWIW but my cheap $80 mobo does 24/96 with
an optical output and I think it also does 44.1Khtz passthru
using the snd_hda_intel driver.

00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)

--markc

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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread Mark A Jenks
I just bought this board and am working on building it into a myth box
that I am building.

Everything looked real good, and it installed good with Suse 11.

Sound output looked good also.

Uses the snd_oxygen CMI8788 module. 


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 On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:37:31 am Grant wrote:
   I'm going to donate a 24-bit capable sound card to the 
 mpd project to
   add 24-bit support.  Can anyone recommend an inexpensive 
 one that is
   24-bit capable and PCI, PCIe, or USB?
 
 Just a non-relevent FWIW but my cheap $80 mobo does 24/96 with
 an optical output and I think it also does 44.1Khtz passthru
 using the snd_hda_intel driver.
 
 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High 
 Definition Audio (rev a1)
 
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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread Grant
  I'm going to donate a 24-bit capable sound card to the mpd project to
  add 24-bit support.  Can anyone recommend an inexpensive one that is
  24-bit capable and PCI, PCIe, or USB?
 Just a non-relevent FWIW but my cheap $80 mobo does 24/96 with
 an optical output and I think it also does 44.1Khtz passthru
 using the snd_hda_intel driver.

 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)

 --markc

The 24-bit DAC I'll be using is USB so I'm thinking maybe I should be
donating a USB one.  I found the Creative sb0490 for about $50 which
is said to work in Linux here:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=584190

It goes to 24/96 in stereo and that's as high as my DAC will go so I'm
thinking it's about right.  What do you guys think?

- Grant

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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread Rene Herman
On 22-08-08 15:07, James Shatto wrote:

 Recording wise 24 bit gives you a greater dynamic sampling range. But
 for most people it's not needed for playback as your CDs and DVDs
 are already in a 16 bit format. And the benefit on playback is
 minimal. Aside from generally being a better soundcard, rather than
 from the media that it will be playing. Are you looking for a card
 that only does 24 bit? Most that I know of do 16 and 24 bit. And the
 only 24 bit media I have is that that I created myself.

I can recommend becoming a Neil Young fan. He has released several CDs 
now with a bonus DVD containing the entire album in 96/24 (PCM) :-)

Rene.

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Re: [Alsa-user] ALSA vs M-Audio fast track ULTRA

2008-08-22 Thread V Gabriele De Palo




Arthur Marsh ha scritto:

  V Gabriele De Palo wrote, on 19/08/08 11:08:
  
  
James Shatto ha scritto:



  On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:28:46 +0200
V Gabriele De Palo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

  
  
Has someone got the Fast Track   Ultra   from M-Audio working with linux?
   


  
  I have an M-Audio Mobile Pre working.  I just used it this morning to digitize some judging tapes.

modprobe snd-usb-audio

If it's USB class compliant it should work.  But usb bandwidth is sort of limited relative to firewire / pci.  You may also need ehci_hcd for usb 2.0.  Otherwise you'll be stuck in usb 1.1 land with a much slower bus speed.

modprobe ehci_hcd

NOTE: the module name may differ depending on kernel version.  And it implies other usb parts are in place.  UHCI or OHCI depending on your computer.
  

  
  
  
  
grazie! vero ...right!
if I lunch in a terminal modprobe ehci_hdc command the output's: FATAL: 
Module ehci_hdc not found.

  
  
The module you need is:

ehci_hcd

  
  
Sorry, but I'don't really know how to check it on my kernel version or 
in my computer.
thank you very much!
Please help me!

  
  

The command I used to find the module names was:

# find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name \*hci\* -print

which returned:

/lib/modules/2.6.27-rc3/kernel/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.27-rc3/kernel/drivers/bluetooth/hci_usb.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.27-rc3/kernel/drivers/bluetooth/hci_uart.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.27-rc3/kernel/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.27-rc3/kernel/drivers/usb/host/ehci-hcd.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.27-rc3/kernel/drivers/usb/host/uhci-hcd.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.27-rc3/kernel/drivers/usb/host/ohci-hcd.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.27-rc3/kernel/drivers/ieee1394/ohci1394.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.27-rc3/kernel/drivers/ata/ahci.ko

Note that the hyphen and underscore are treated as the same character 
for module names.

On my pc, I have both old USB 1.1 built-in to the Intel chipset 
motherboard and an NEC USB 2.0 PCI card.

# lspci|grep -i usb

00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:0a.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
00:0a.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
00:0a.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 04)

To see what modules are installed, use the lsmod command:

# lsmod|grep hci

ehci_hcd   28780  0
uhci_hcd   18960  0
ohci_hcd   18500  0
usbcore   118032  6 usblp,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd,ohci_hcd

Regards,

Arthur.


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thank you, Arthur!
sorry, but I' don' t know how to get ehci_hcd module and also if it's
possible or if I need to change my hardware or my linux s.o.

this' s my # lsmod|grep hci command output:

# lsmod|grep hci
ahci
28804 10 
libata
160112 4 ata_piix,pata_acpi,ahci,ata_generic
uhci_hcd
26896 0 
ehci_hcd
37644 0 
usbcore
147308 8
snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,uvcvideo,ndiswrapper,usbhid,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd

Please, I need an help, if you can.
sorry for my English too!
Ciao e grazie.
gabriele



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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread Rene Herman
On 22-08-08 17:37, Grant wrote:

 I'm going to donate a 24-bit capable sound card to the mpd project to
 add 24-bit support.  Can anyone recommend an inexpensive one that is
 24-bit capable and PCI, PCIe, or USB?
 For inexpensive, I believe one of the CMI cards would be a good choice.
 Note, I haven't any and you want to check specific support for (the exact
 chip on) the one you'd get but as far as I'm aware, any current CMI chip
 does 24-bit.
 
 OK, a little more digging and that cmedia link must have had a typo.
 There is also a chipset called the CMI8788 contained by the bluegears
 b-Enspirer which is about $100.  I've read that CMI cards have good
 ALSA support.  Does this sound like a good one?

Sounds a bit expensive -- if I'm not mistaken those cards can be had 
locally from brands such as Trust and Club 3D but also a nicer brand 
such as TerraTec for around EUR50. It's a bit hard to make sure as 
online stores seem to not consider the audio-chipset marketable information.

Otherwise, yes, probably okay, but you want to cross-reference tbis with 
the driver author, placed in CC. I haven't a modern CMI card so wouldn't 
know about gotchas such as 24-bit for playback and not capture and stuff 
like that.

Rene.

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Re: [Alsa-user] ALSA vs M-Audio fast track ULTRA

2008-08-22 Thread James Shatto
It looks like you have all of the parts as far as kernel modules loaded.  What 
are you trying to use the the card with?  What does /proc/asound/ say about the 
card?

cat /proc/asound/cards

speakertest -c 2 -D hw:0

(change the 0 to match your cards index number, since usb probably isn't the 
primary unless all other soundcards are disabled somehow, or you re-indexed it 
in your alsa configuration.  Or it's just not class compliant / supported)

HTH,
James


On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:01:56 +0200
V Gabriele De Palo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 this' s my # lsmod|grep hci command output:
 
 # lsmod|grep hci
 ahci   28804  10
 libata160112  4 ata_piix,pata_acpi,ahci,ata_generic
 uhci_hcd   26896  0
 ehci_hcd   37644  0
 usbcore   147308  8 
 snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,uvcvideo,ndiswrapper,usbhid,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd
 
 Please, I need an help, if you can.
 sorry for my English too!
 Ciao e grazie.
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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread Grant
 Recording wise 24 bit gives you a greater dynamic sampling range. But
 for most people it's not needed for playback as your CDs and DVDs
 are already in a 16 bit format. And the benefit on playback is
 minimal. Aside from generally being a better soundcard, rather than
 from the media that it will be playing. Are you looking for a card
 that only does 24 bit? Most that I know of do 16 and 24 bit. And the
 only 24 bit media I have is that that I created myself.

 I can recommend becoming a Neil Young fan. He has released several CDs now
 with a bonus DVD containing the entire album in 96/24 (PCM) :-)

Are you sure about that?  I know he released a bunch of DVD-A discs
with 24-bit stuff, but are you saying he released normal DVDs with
24/96 files just sitting there?  Google is no help.  Can you name one
or two?  I'm a huge fan.

BTW, the entire Doors catalog is available on DVD-A in 24/96.

- Grant

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[Alsa-user] Compilation of Alsa 1.0.17 and alsa-snapshot on Suse10.0 crashes

2008-08-22 Thread Vaclav Peroutka
Hello all,

I recently bought M-Audio Revolution 5.1 card and problems appear. I have alsa 
1.0.9a on my computer and when I set ice1724 driver I get rerally horrible 
sound ( worse than 8-bit parallel-port DAC). Furthermore I hava some strange 
multitracks in alsamixer. But nothing reasonable.

I created some simple oscilloscope application to see, what is on line inputs. 
And furthermore I found that my on-board ALC655 card has right input channel 
assigned to microphone input all the time (left channel can be switched 
correctly).

So I said it is time to upgrade Alsa. First I tried version 1.0.17 and then 
snapshot version. But both ended with messages below.

It looks those functions are missing. Does anybody know what should I do ?

Thank you in advance,
Vaclav

  CC [M]  /tmp/alsa-driver-1.0.17/drivers/mts64.o
/tmp/alsa-driver-1.0.17/drivers/mts64.c: In function ‘snd_mts64_attach’:
/tmp/alsa-driver-1.0.17/drivers/mts64.c:896: error: implicit declaration of 
function ‘platform_device_alloc’
/tmp/alsa-driver-1.0.17/drivers/mts64.c:896: warning: assignment makes pointer 
from integer without a cast
/tmp/alsa-driver-1.0.17/drivers/mts64.c:903: error: implicit declaration of 
function ‘platform_device_add’
/tmp/alsa-driver-1.0.17/drivers/mts64.c:904: error: implicit declaration of 
function ‘platform_device_put’
make[4]: *** [/tmp/alsa-driver-1.0.17/drivers/mts64.o] Error 1
make[3]: *** [/tmp/alsa-driver-1.0.17/drivers] Error 2
make[2]: *** [_module_/tmp/alsa-driver-1.0.17] Error 2
make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.13-15'

gcc --version
gcc (GCC) 4.0.2 20050901 (prerelease) (SUSE Linux)


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Re: [Alsa-user] ALSA vs M-Audio fast track ULTRA

2008-08-22 Thread V Gabriele De Palo




James Shatto ha scritto:

  It looks like you have all of the parts as far as kernel modules loaded.  What are you trying to use the the card with?  What does /proc/asound/ say about the card?

cat /proc/asound/cards

speakertest -c 2 -D hw:0

(change the 0 to match your cards index number, since usb probably isn't the primary unless all other soundcards are disabled somehow, or you re-indexed it in your alsa configuration.  Or it's just not class compliant / supported)

HTH,
James


On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:01:56 +0200
V Gabriele De Palo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
this' s my # lsmod|grep hci command output:

# lsmod|grep hci
ahci   28804  10
libata160112  4 ata_piix,pata_acpi,ahci,ata_generic
uhci_hcd   26896  0
ehci_hcd   37644  0
usbcore   147308  8 snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,uvcvideo,ndiswrapper,usbhid,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd

Please, I need an help, if you can.
sorry for my English too!
Ciao e grazie.
gabriele

  
  
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Grazie 1000!

 What are you trying to use the the card with?

I'm trying to use it with Jack, but when I set hw:1 Fast Track Ultra
like input device, I'm able to connect inputs to some output (jamin)
but there's no audio signal when I play somethings by one of audio
inputs on the usb-soundcard, which I can see gain led light-on and I
can hear sounds by phones output.

This' s my output:

# cat /proc/asound/cards
0
[Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel

HDA Intel at 0x9830 irq 22
1 [Ultra ]: USB-Audio -
Fast Track Ultra

M-Audio Fast Track Ultra at usb-:00:1d.7-3, high speed

when I try:

 speakertest -c 2 -D hw:0

# speaker-test -c 2 -D
hw:1

speaker-test 1.0.15

La periferica di riproduzione  hw:1
I parametri dello stream sono 48000Hz,
S16_LE, 2 canali
Using 16 octaves of pink noise
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find
definition 'defaults.namehint.extended'
ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer
returned
error: Nessun file o directory
ALSA lib conf.c:3985:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: Nessun file o
directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2184:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM hw:1
Playback open error: -2,Nessun file o
directory [...]

 ... or ...

# speaker-test -c 2 -D hw:0

speaker-test 1.0.15

La periferica di
riproduzione  hw:0
I parametri dello stream sono 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 canali
Using 16 octaves of pink noise
ALSA
lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition
'defaults.namehint.extended'
ALSA lib
conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned
error: Nessun file o directory
ALSA lib
conf.c:3985:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: Nessun file o directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2184:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate)
Unknown PCM hw:0
Playback open error: -2,Nessun file o directory [...],

but I cant hear anything, where I'm wrong?

 Or it's just not class compliant / supported

Maybe you right! 
but, i still hope to find a solution...for now.
Ciao e grazie James!
gabriele









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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread Rene Herman
On 22-08-08 20:58, Grant wrote:
 Recording wise 24 bit gives you a greater dynamic sampling range. But
 for most people it's not needed for playback as your CDs and DVDs
 are already in a 16 bit format. And the benefit on playback is
 minimal. Aside from generally being a better soundcard, rather than
 from the media that it will be playing. Are you looking for a card
 that only does 24 bit? Most that I know of do 16 and 24 bit. And the
 only 24 bit media I have is that that I created myself.
 I can recommend becoming a Neil Young fan. He has released several CDs now
 with a bonus DVD containing the entire album in 96/24 (PCM) :-)
 
 Are you sure about that?  I know he released a bunch of DVD-A discs
 with 24-bit stuff, but are you saying he released normal DVDs with
 24/96 files just sitting there?  Google is no help.  Can you name one
 or two?  I'm a huge fan.

Definitely. CD/DVD version of his Greatest Hits (2004) has the entire 
album in 96/24 PCM on the DVD-Video (which on a video DVD player shows a 
nice picture of a spinning turntable while playing)

Same thing for Living with war, In the begining (2006). Note, that's 
not the regular Living with war.

Those are the two I have here. mplayer was giving me endless grief 
actually ripping the tracks from the DVD so I haven't yet done that in 
fact, but:

==
Opening audio decoder: [dvdpcm] Uncompressed DVD/VOB LPCM audio decoder
AUDIO: 96000 Hz, 2 ch, s24be, 4608.0 kbit/100.00% (ratio: 576000-576000)
Selected audio codec: [dvdpcm] afm: dvdpcm (Uncompressed DVD/VOB LPCM)
==

(which then plays to a soundcard that does 4800/16 at best, but hey).

Living with war is not his finest work -- the In the beginning 
version improves on it but there's just so much polish you can put on a 
turd.

I'd _very_ much advice the Greatest Hits CD/DVD one though. Truly and 
definitely excellent sound quality and ofcourse great music. There's a 
sticker on the front with:

--
BECAUSE
SOUND
MATTERS
--
CD/DVD COMBO-PAK
--
COMBO-PAK features all
original master mixes
now in super-saturated
DVD-Stereo for the
-
HIGHEST
QUALITY
AUDIO
available on DVD
-
Also available on CD only
-

Especially if you, like me, like very direct recordings, you're going to 
love the sound-quality even of the CD (as most of his releases, a HDCD).

 BTW, the entire Doors catalog is available on DVD-A in 24/96.

For DVD-A you need a DVD-A player it would seem. I definitely haven't one.

Rene.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Compilation of Alsa 1.0.17 and alsa-snapshot on Suse10.0 crashes

2008-08-22 Thread Vaclav Peroutka
Hello,

I temporarily solved my problem. I just compiled cards I have (via82xx, bt87x,
ice1724). Those functions are not necessary for them.

But another problems rised. I can only use ICE1724 as a hw0 card and onboard
via82xx . I mean, via82xx module can not be initialized without prior starting
of ice1724. Dmesg is below.

But for Firefox I need default card to be via82xx. But I can not compile
alsa-utils 1.0.17 (there is asoundconf to change default card) - 
init_parse.c:43:18: error: list.h: No such file or directory
init_parse.c:92:26: error: init_sysdeps.c: No such file or directory
init_parse.c:93:31: error: init_utils_string.c: No such file or directory
init_parse.c:94:28: error: init_utils_run.c: No such file or directory
init_parse.c:95:24: error: init_sysfs.c: No such file or directory

This day does not go too well...

Does anybody have an idea what to do ?
Vaclav

DMESG listing:
# snd_rawmidi: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# snd_mpu401_uart: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# snd_ac97_codec: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# snd_via82xx: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# ACPI-0212: *** Warning: Device is not power manageable
# ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:11.5[C] - Link [LNKC] - GSI 11 (level, low) - 
IRQ
# 11
# PCI: Via IRQ fixup for :00:11.5, from 5 to 11
# PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:11.5 to 64
# ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:11.5 disabled
# ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:0a.1 disabled
# SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=wlan0 OUT= MAC= SRC=192.168.1.99 DST=224.0.0.251
# LEN=109 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=9 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=89
# snd_seq_device: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# snd_rawmidi: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# snd_mpu401_uart: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# snd_timer: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# snd_pcm: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# snd_ac97_codec: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# snd_via82xx: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:11.5[C] - Link [LNKC] - GSI 11 (level, low) - 
IRQ
# 11
# PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:11.5 to 64
# ALSA /tmp/alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_codec.c:1938: Can't register ac97 bus
# ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:11.5 disabled
# VIA 82xx Audio: probe of :00:11.5 failed with error -17
# snd_seq: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# snd_mixer_oss: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# snd_pcm_oss: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# snd_via82xx: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:11.5[C] - Link [LNKC] - GSI 11 (level, low) - 
IRQ
# 11
# PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:11.5 to 64
# ALSA /tmp/alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_codec.c:1938: Can't register ac97 bus
# ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:11.5 disabled
# VIA 82xx Audio: probe of :00:11.5 failed with error -17
# snd_i2c: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# snd_pt2258: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# snd_ak4114: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# snd_ak4xxx_adda: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# snd_ice1724: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:0c.0[A] - Link [LNKA] - GSI 11 (level, low) - 
IRQ
# 11
# snd_via82xx: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
# ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:11.5[C] - Link [LNKC] - GSI 11 (level, low) - 
IRQ
# 11
# PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:11.5 to 64
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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread Grant
 Recording wise 24 bit gives you a greater dynamic sampling range. But
 for most people it's not needed for playback as your CDs and DVDs
 are already in a 16 bit format. And the benefit on playback is
 minimal. Aside from generally being a better soundcard, rather than
 from the media that it will be playing. Are you looking for a card
 that only does 24 bit? Most that I know of do 16 and 24 bit. And the
 only 24 bit media I have is that that I created myself.

 I can recommend becoming a Neil Young fan. He has released several CDs
 now
 with a bonus DVD containing the entire album in 96/24 (PCM) :-)

 Are you sure about that?  I know he released a bunch of DVD-A discs
 with 24-bit stuff, but are you saying he released normal DVDs with
 24/96 files just sitting there?  Google is no help.  Can you name one
 or two?  I'm a huge fan.

 Definitely. CD/DVD version of his Greatest Hits (2004) has the entire
 album in 96/24 PCM on the DVD-Video (which on a video DVD player shows a
 nice picture of a spinning turntable while playing)

 Same thing for Living with war, In the begining (2006). Note, that's not
 the regular Living with war.

 Those are the two I have here. mplayer was giving me endless grief actually
 ripping the tracks from the DVD so I haven't yet done that in fact, but:

 ==
 Opening audio decoder: [dvdpcm] Uncompressed DVD/VOB LPCM audio decoder
 AUDIO: 96000 Hz, 2 ch, s24be, 4608.0 kbit/100.00% (ratio: 576000-576000)
 Selected audio codec: [dvdpcm] afm: dvdpcm (Uncompressed DVD/VOB LPCM)
 ==

 (which then plays to a soundcard that does 4800/16 at best, but hey).

Can you just mount the DVD and cp the tracks over?  Probably not or
you would have done that.

 Living with war is not his finest work -- the In the beginning version
 improves on it but there's just so much polish you can put on a turd.

 I'd _very_ much advice the Greatest Hits CD/DVD one though. Truly and
 definitely excellent sound quality and ofcourse great music.

Do you know of others?  I read he is into the Blu-Ray format and I
can't imagine him going too all out with DVD-Video when he has his
sights on Blu-Ray.

 Especially if you, like me, like very direct recordings, you're going to
 love the sound-quality even of the CD (as most of his releases, a HDCD).

Can you rip and play back 20-bit HDCD audio?

 BTW, the entire Doors catalog is available on DVD-A in 24/96.

 For DVD-A you need a DVD-A player it would seem. I definitely haven't one.

All you really need is a DVD drive and:

http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/

- Grant

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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread Rene Herman
On 22-08-08 23:09, Grant wrote:

 Can you just mount the DVD and cp the tracks over?  Probably not or
 you would have done that.

Not as individual tracks no. It's a regular DVD-Video, so you can copy 
over the VOBs ofcourse, but piecing things together requires processing 
them from harddisk then...

 Living with war is not his finest work -- the In the beginning version
 improves on it but there's just so much polish you can put on a turd.

 I'd _very_ much advice the Greatest Hits CD/DVD one though. Truly and
 definitely excellent sound quality and ofcourse great music.
 
 Do you know of others?  I read he is into the Blu-Ray format and I
 can't imagine him going too all out with DVD-Video when he has his
 sights on Blu-Ray.

Yes, he's going Blu-Ray. Greatest Hits and Living with war, in the 
beginning are 2 of the 3 CD/DVD I have of Neil Young, but according to 
his discography:

http://www.neilyoung.com/archives/discography/nyd_start1.html

those might in fact be the only 2 with 96/24 audio. All his recent 
releases have a CD and a deluxe CD/DVD version, but only with those 
two does it mention high-resultion audio tracks there.

 Especially if you, like me, like very direct recordings, you're going to
 love the sound-quality even of the CD (as most of his releases, a HDCD).
 
 Can you rip and play back 20-bit HDCD audio?

I could, with a hackish tool I have here, but I must say that for now 
I'm experiencing the value in HDCD mosly in the fact that if something 
is an HDCD it was produced by someone that gives a shit about sound 
quality and stands a good chance of sounding good on anything...

 BTW, the entire Doors catalog is available on DVD-A in 24/96.
 For DVD-A you need a DVD-A player it would seem. I definitely haven't one.
 
 All you really need is a DVD drive and:
 
 http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/

Interesting. Thanks.

Rene.

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Re: [Alsa-user] ALSA vs M-Audio fast track ULTRA

2008-08-22 Thread James Shatto
It looks like this might be your issue:

 La periferica di riproduzione è hw:0
 I parametri dello stream sono 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 canali
 Using 16 octaves of pink noise
 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 
 'defaults.namehint.extended'
 ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned 
 error: Nessun file o directory
 ALSA lib conf.c:3985:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: Nessun file o 
 directory
 ALSA lib pcm.c:2184:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM hw:0
 Playback open error: -2,Nessun file o directory [...],

Not that I've had that issue.  But you might only have some of your modules 
loaded.  Or a mixmatch of versions loaded.  Or some sort of udev or /dev/audio/ 
issues.  Do you get sound on the main/default soundcard?  Because it seems you 
got the same error on both cards.  You might try hw:0,0 instead of just hw:0.  
Generally speaking hw:0,0 for playback and hw:0,1 for recording.  I've seen 
issues like this (snd_ctl_open) when the /dev/ devices were not present.

--

For reference here's my Mobile Pre setup.  From memory and cut and paste for 
the most part so grain of salt.  And I used to have 2 mobile pre's.  You might 
try using a liveCD like knoppix and see if it auto detects/configures your 
primary soundcard.  Just to verify that at least that works under linux.

-

There's many parts to an alsa setup / configuration.  Listed below are some of 
mine.  Most of these are taken care of by your distro.  Or at least should be.

-

speaker-test -c 2

Playback device is default
Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
Using 16 octaves of pink noise
Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
Buffer size range from 2048 to 16384
Period size range from 1024 to 1024
Using max buffer size 16384
Periods = 4
was set period_size = 1024
was set buffer_size = 16384
 0 - Front Left
 1 - Front Right
Time per period = 5.650262
 0 - Front Left
 1 - Front Right

-

cd alsa-driver-???
./configure --prefix=/usr --with-cards=atiixp,atiixp-modem,usb-audio 
--with-sequencer=yes
make 
make install

-

# FROM /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_custom
# implies moving or disabling distro default entries.

alias   char-major-116  snd
alias   char-major-14   soundcore

options snd major=116   cards_limit=3
options snd-atiixp  index=0
options snd-atiixp-modemindex=1
options snd-usb-audio   index=2
options snd-usb-audio   index=3

alias   snd-card-0  snd-atiixp
alias   sound-slot-0snd-card-0
alias   sound-service-0-0   snd-mixer-oss
alias   sound-service-0-1   snd-seq-oss
alias   sound-service-0-3   snd-pcm-oss
alias   sound-service-0-8   snd-seqr-oss
alias   sound-service-0-12  snd-pcm-oss

alias   snd-card-1  snd-atiixp-modem
alias   sound-slot-1snd-card-1
alias   sound-service-1-0   snd-mixer-oss
alias   sound-service-1-1   snd-seq-oss
alias   sound-service-1-3   snd-pcm-oss
alias   sound-service-1-8   snd-seqr-oss
alias   sound-service-1-12  snd-pcm-oss

alias   snd-card-2  snd-usb-audio
alias   sound-slot-2snd-card-2
alias   sound-service-2-0   snd-mixer-oss
alias   sound-service-2-1   snd-seq-oss
alias   sound-service-2-3   snd-pcm-oss
alias   sound-service-2-8   snd-seqr-oss
alias   sound-service-2-12  snd-pcm-oss

alias   snd-card-3  snd-usb-audio
alias   sound-slot-3snd-card-3
alias   sound-service-3-0   snd-mixer-oss
alias   sound-service-3-1   snd-seq-oss
alias   sound-service-3-3   snd-pcm-oss
alias   sound-service-3-8   snd-seqr-oss
alias   sound-service-3-12  snd-pcm-oss

#alias   usb-controller  ohci-hcd
#alias   usb-controller1 ehci-hcd

-

# FROM /etc/modules

snd-usb-audio
snd-atiixp
snd-seq-oss

-

# FROM /home/user/.asoundrc

pcm.atiixp {
   type hw
   card 0
}
ctl.atiixp {
   type hw
   card 0
}

pcm.atiixp_modem {
   type hw
   card 1
}
ctl.atiixp_modem {
   type hw
   card 1
}

pcm.usb_audio2 {
   type hw
   card 2
}
ctl.usb_audio2 {
   type hw
   card 2
}

pcm.usb_audio3 {
   type hw
   card 3
}
ctl.usb_audio3 {
   type hw
   card 3
}

defaults.pcm.card 0

pcm.copy {
  type plug
  slave {
pcm hw
  }
  route_policy copy
}

-

I used udev to create the modules in /dev.  I wasn't really given a choice with 
my current distros incarnation.  I used to just run the ./snddevices script to 
mknod the audio devices.

-

find /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/sound/ -iname '*'

/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/ac97_bus.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/soundcore.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/pci
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/pci/snd-atiixp-modem.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/pci/ac97
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/pci/snd-atiixp.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/usb
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/usb/caiaq
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/usb/caiaq/snd-usb-caiaq.ko

Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread Grant
 Can you rip and play back 20-bit HDCD audio?

 I could, with a hackish tool I have here, but I must say that for now I'm
 experiencing the value in HDCD mosly in the fact that if something is an
 HDCD it was produced by someone that gives a shit about sound quality and
 stands a good chance of sounding good on anything...

 BTW, the entire Doors catalog is available on DVD-A in 24/96.

 For DVD-A you need a DVD-A player it would seem. I definitely haven't
 one.

 All you really need is a DVD drive and:

 http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/

 Interesting. Thanks.

Check this out:

http://dvd-a.info/Index.asp?stitle=neil+young

2 pages of mainly Neil Young DVD-A releases all containing tracks up
to 24bit/176khz.  Lots of people are ripping their DVD-A discs with
the above tool.

- Grant

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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread James Shatto
 Those are the two I have here. mplayer was giving me endless grief 
 actually ripping the tracks from the DVD so I haven't yet done that in 
 fact, but:

mplayer -dumpaudio -dumpfile sound_track.wav ./source.vob

Granted that my default distro supplied version of mplayer didn't work for 
this.  I had to compile a custom version of mplayer from source.  At least 
that's how it was for debian.  At least it's not as bad as RH and others that 
strip out all mp3 support and such.  Although I had to compile lame from source 
as well on debian.  Mainly to get Layer III, versus Layer II type mp3's.  Since 
my mp3 player is picky.  It also solved the Audacity issue of exporting mp3's 
and not finding some lib.

I have a number of lower grade historical archives of visual arts programs with 
insufficient audio.  i.e. Normalized to the audio of the announcer, not the 
group.  So I've had to edit the audio and rejoin it to the video to make it 
viewable (by humans) for all intents and purposes.  That and their DVD audio 
format is 2.1 at best.

HTH

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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread Rene Herman
On 22-08-08 23:44, James Shatto wrote:

 Those are the two I have here. mplayer was giving me endless grief 
 actually ripping the tracks from the DVD so I haven't yet done that in 
 fact, but:
 
 mplayer -dumpaudio -dumpfile sound_track.wav ./source.vob

I'd have figured that out :-) Didn't work with the 96/24 audio...

Rene.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread Rene Herman
On 22-08-08 23:44, Grant wrote:

 http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/

 Interesting. Thanks.
 
 Check this out:
 
 http://dvd-a.info/Index.asp?stitle=neil+young
 
 2 pages of mainly Neil Young DVD-A releases all containing tracks up
 to 24bit/176khz.  Lots of people are ripping their DVD-A discs with
 the above tool.

DVD-A is extremely uncommon at least over here in the Netherlands. I'd 
consider it dead and buried, had it not been for the fact that it never 
lived. SACD did very little here, DVD-A nothing, and currently they're 
both dead. I also have none.

I'm watching Blu-Ray. Might be investing a bit in that...

Rene.


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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread James Shatto
  mplayer -dumpaudio -dumpfile sound_track.wav ./source.vob
 
 I'd have figured that out :-) Didn't work with the 96/24 audio...

Well, you could probably do the arecord method.

arecord -D copy -t wav -c 2 -f S24_BE -r 96000 audio_track.wav
(unverified syntax)

Set record to the PCM / VOL device (which I can only do in aumix for some 
reason).  Set the gain / lever for PCM to 50% / tastes.  And play the track.  
Of course it assumes your soundcard is capable, you have copy in .asoundrc, and 
your soundcard can play 24/96kHz.

Although that dvd-audio.sf.net tool might be a better option.  Or you might 
just need the mencoder option of -oac copy -ovc null for mplayer.  I don't have 
said media, so I can't play / test it out.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread Grant
 http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/

 Interesting. Thanks.

 Check this out:

 http://dvd-a.info/Index.asp?stitle=neil+young

 2 pages of mainly Neil Young DVD-A releases all containing tracks up
 to 24bit/176khz.  Lots of people are ripping their DVD-A discs with
 the above tool.

 DVD-A is extremely uncommon at least over here in the Netherlands. I'd
 consider it dead and buried, had it not been for the fact that it never
 lived. SACD did very little here, DVD-A nothing, and currently they're both
 dead. I also have none.

 I'm watching Blu-Ray. Might be investing a bit in that...

Of course DVD-A is dead, but DVD-Video containing audio won't catch up
with this:

http://dvd-a.info/Index.asp?stitle=neil+young

Blu-Ray surely will but the above is available now.

- Grant

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Re: [Alsa-user] Donation Recommendation? - 24-bit sound card

2008-08-22 Thread Rene Herman
On 23-08-08 00:00, James Shatto wrote:

 mplayer -dumpaudio -dumpfile sound_track.wav ./source.vob
 I'd have figured that out :-) Didn't work with the 96/24 audio...
 
 Well, you could probably do the arecord method.
 
 arecord -D copy -t wav -c 2 -f S24_BE -r 96000 audio_track.wav 
 (unverified syntax)
 
 Set record to the PCM / VOL device (which I can only do in aumix for
 some reason).  Set the gain / lever for PCM to 50% / tastes.  And
 play the track.  Of course it assumes your soundcard is capable, you
 have copy in .asoundrc, and your soundcard can play 24/96kHz.

That I'd not feel acceptable. The ALSA file plugin is, but I remember 
trying that as well and it bombing out on something. Don't remeber what 
anymore and not going to retry right now but I believe it was eventually 
just an mplayer bug that I ran into and me shrugging and telling that 
piece of bleep to go bleep itself.

So thanks, really, but dreadfully sorry, not going to aggrevate myself 
tonight endlessly struggling with the Linux videoscape. Will at some 
other time...

Rene.


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Re: [Alsa-user] ALSA vs M-Audio fast track ULTRA

2008-08-22 Thread V Gabriele De Palo




James Shatto ha scritto:

  It looks like this might be your issue:

  
  
La periferica di riproduzione  hw:0
I parametri dello stream sono 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 canali
Using 16 octaves of pink noise
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'defaults.namehint.extended'
ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: Nessun file o directory
ALSA lib conf.c:3985:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: Nessun file o directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2184:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM hw:0
Playback open error: -2,Nessun file o directory [...],

  
  
Not that I've had that issue.  But you might only have some of your modules loaded.  Or a mixmatch of versions loaded.  Or some sort of udev or /dev/audio/ issues.  Do you get sound on the main/default soundcard?  Because it seems you got the same error on both cards.  You might try hw:0,0 instead of just hw:0.  Generally speaking hw:0,0 for playback and hw:0,1 for recording.  I've seen issues like this (snd_ctl_open) when the /dev/ devices were not present.

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For reference here's my Mobile Pre setup.  From memory and cut and paste for the most part so grain of salt.  And I used to have 2 mobile pre's.  You might try using a liveCD like knoppix and see if it auto detects/configures your primary soundcard.  Just to verify that at least that works under linux.

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There's many parts to an alsa setup / configuration.  Listed below are some of mine.  Most of these are taken care of by your distro.  Or at least should be.

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speaker-test -c 2

Playback device is default
Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
Using 16 octaves of pink noise
Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
Buffer size range from 2048 to 16384
Period size range from 1024 to 1024
Using max buffer size 16384
Periods = 4
was set period_size = 1024
was set buffer_size = 16384
 0 - Front Left
 1 - Front Right
Time per period = 5.650262
 0 - Front Left
 1 - Front Right

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cd alsa-driver-???
./configure --prefix=/usr --with-cards=atiixp,atiixp-modem,usb-audio --with-sequencer=yes
make 
make install

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# FROM /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_custom
# implies moving or disabling distro default entries.

alias   char-major-116  snd
alias   char-major-14   soundcore

options snd major=116   cards_limit=3
options snd-atiixp  index=0
options snd-atiixp-modemindex=1
options snd-usb-audio   index=2
options snd-usb-audio   index=3

alias   snd-card-0  snd-atiixp
alias   sound-slot-0snd-card-0
alias   sound-service-0-0   snd-mixer-oss
alias   sound-service-0-1   snd-seq-oss
alias   sound-service-0-3   snd-pcm-oss
alias   sound-service-0-8   snd-seqr-oss
alias   sound-service-0-12  snd-pcm-oss

alias   snd-card-1  snd-atiixp-modem
alias   sound-slot-1snd-card-1
alias   sound-service-1-0   snd-mixer-oss
alias   sound-service-1-1   snd-seq-oss
alias   sound-service-1-3   snd-pcm-oss
alias   sound-service-1-8   snd-seqr-oss
alias   sound-service-1-12  snd-pcm-oss

alias   snd-card-2  snd-usb-audio
alias   sound-slot-2snd-card-2
alias   sound-service-2-0   snd-mixer-oss
alias   sound-service-2-1   snd-seq-oss
alias   sound-service-2-3   snd-pcm-oss
alias   sound-service-2-8   snd-seqr-oss
alias   sound-service-2-12  snd-pcm-oss

alias   snd-card-3  snd-usb-audio
alias   sound-slot-3snd-card-3
alias   sound-service-3-0   snd-mixer-oss
alias   sound-service-3-1   snd-seq-oss
alias   sound-service-3-3   snd-pcm-oss
alias   sound-service-3-8   snd-seqr-oss
alias   sound-service-3-12  snd-pcm-oss

#alias   usb-controller  ohci-hcd
#alias   usb-controller1 ehci-hcd

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# FROM /etc/modules

snd-usb-audio
snd-atiixp
snd-seq-oss

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# FROM /home/user/.asoundrc

pcm.atiixp {
   type hw
   card 0
}
ctl.atiixp {
   type hw
   card 0
}

pcm.atiixp_modem {
   type hw
   card 1
}
ctl.atiixp_modem {
   type hw
   card 1
}

pcm.usb_audio2 {
   type hw
   card 2
}
ctl.usb_audio2 {
   type hw
   card 2
}

pcm.usb_audio3 {
   type hw
   card 3
}
ctl.usb_audio3 {
   type hw
   card 3
}

defaults.pcm.card 0

pcm.copy {
  type plug
  slave {
pcm hw
  }
  route_policy copy
}

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I used udev to create the modules in /dev.  I wasn't really given a choice with my current distros incarnation.  I used to just run the ./snddevices script to mknod the audio devices.

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find /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/sound/ -iname '*'

/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/ac97_bus.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/soundcore.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/pci
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/pci/snd-atiixp-modem.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/pci/ac97
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/pci/snd-atiixp.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/usb
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/usb/caiaq