Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
I didn't read this whole thrad so sorry if I say something that's already said but I see you proposed tohave a kind of info-box telling teh userr it's better to restart aMSN to have the new skin in it's full glory ... but why not show this message inside the skin chooser window in bold ? Like Notice: you might want to restart aMSN to enjoy all the skin's functionality ...? greets, Karel. Op di, 29-11-2005 te 21:49 -0500, schreef Youness Alaoui: On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:45:53 -0500, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 05-11-29 à 21:34, Youness Alaoui a écrit : hehe, no I didn't mean that, that would be too much trouble, like I said, just a little thing to do because now we're in a feature freeze... what I meant by some pixmaps are not used was that some pixmaps would remain from the old skin instead of the skin system using the new skin's pixmaps... I don't get that one :P If the skin has the pixmaps, the skin system takes it, if not, it takes the pixmaps from the default skin. That's the correct behavior. ok, that's probably why I said that I may say something stupid :P forget about it :) Anyway, as you said, it's not a big deal to just add a message_box (but still, it can be feel as a pain for some people to always click on OK when switching skin, even if they just make a preview of the skin), I left the decision to others, I'm 50-50 :P to preview a skin, you enable the preview checkbox... to click ok, is not that bad if anyways, you have to restart amsn... it's a suggestion, maybe other devs' opinions would help us decide... --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Located it! : [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
#8 0x40058755 in TkpDisplayButton () from /usr/lib/libtk8.4.so It is actually the send button. I enabled the standard grey flat button in chatwindow.tcl and increased the -width argument (but I mean REALLY increase it, had to set it to 60) and it is stable! I just get a funny huge button that turns normal again when I hover it :) but at least, no crashes. I will keep experimenting, but since I am hacking an unknown code in an unknown language, I'd appreciate it if someone else gave it a try :) Vivia --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
I think it's perfect, a lot better since the user won't have any annoyin popup... I suggest we go with that.. KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 07:43:00 -0500, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't read this whole thrad so sorry if I say something that's already said but I see you proposed tohave a kind of info-box telling teh userr it's better to restart aMSN to have the new skin in it's full glory ... but why not show this message inside the skin chooser window in bold ? Like Notice: you might want to restart aMSN to enjoy all the skin's functionality ...? greets, Karel. Op di, 29-11-2005 te 21:49 -0500, schreef Youness Alaoui: On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:45:53 -0500, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 05-11-29 à 21:34, Youness Alaoui a écrit : hehe, no I didn't mean that, that would be too much trouble, like I said, just a little thing to do because now we're in a feature freeze... what I meant by some pixmaps are not used was that some pixmaps would remain from the old skin instead of the skin system using the new skin's pixmaps... I don't get that one :P If the skin has the pixmaps, the skin system takes it, if not, it takes the pixmaps from the default skin. That's the correct behavior. ok, that's probably why I said that I may say something stupid :P forget about it :) Anyway, as you said, it's not a big deal to just add a message_box (but still, it can be feel as a pain for some people to always click on OK when switching skin, even if they just make a preview of the skin), I left the decision to others, I'm 50-50 :P to preview a skin, you enable the preview checkbox... to click ok, is not that bad if anyways, you have to restart amsn... it's a suggestion, maybe other devs' opinions would help us decide... --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
On Friday 02 December 2005 06:02, Youness Alaoui wrote: I think it's perfect, a lot better since the user won't have any annoyin popup... I suggest we go with that.. Also we could add a link Get more skins! that when clicked will open a browser with our skin section, like in Firefox. Or should this be added after .95 release? KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 07:43:00 -0500, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't read this whole thrad so sorry if I say something that's already said but I see you proposed tohave a kind of info-box telling teh userr it's better to restart aMSN to have the new skin in it's full glory ... but why not show this message inside the skin chooser window in bold ? Like Notice: you might want to restart aMSN to enjoy all the skin's functionality ...? greets, Karel. Op di, 29-11-2005 te 21:49 -0500, schreef Youness Alaoui: On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:45:53 -0500, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 05-11-29 à 21:34, Youness Alaoui a écrit : hehe, no I didn't mean that, that would be too much trouble, like I said, just a little thing to do because now we're in a feature freeze... what I meant by some pixmaps are not used was that some pixmaps would remain from the old skin instead of the skin system using the new skin's pixmaps... I don't get that one :P If the skin has the pixmaps, the skin system takes it, if not, it takes the pixmaps from the default skin. That's the correct behavior. ok, that's probably why I said that I may say something stupid :P forget about it :) Anyway, as you said, it's not a big deal to just add a message_box (but still, it can be feel as a pain for some people to always click on OK when switching skin, even if they just make a preview of the skin), I left the decision to others, I'm 50-50 :P to preview a skin, you enable the preview checkbox... to click ok, is not that bad if anyways, you have to restart amsn... it's a suggestion, maybe other devs' opinions would help us decide... --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- Karol Krizka pgpSVMFtt2Osd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
Phil, can you please look into that ? An idea would also be to look at the diff in the Tk_CreatePhotoImageFormat proc in tk's CVS and look for any bugfix-patch applied for 8.4.11.. that may be a hassle though.. Thanks, KaKaRoTo On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 17:15:53 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #5 0x400b08b4 in Tk_CreatePhotoImageFormat () from /usr/lib/libtk8.4.so No symbol table info available. #6 0x4041e47d in PhotoDisplayProcHook () from /usr/local/msn/utils/TkCximage/TkCximage.so No symbol table info available. #7 0x400a7edf in Tk_RedrawImage () from /usr/lib/libtk8.4.so No symbol table info available. #8 0x40058755 in TkpDisplayButton () from /usr/lib/libtk8.4.so No symbol table info available. -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
Le 05-12-02 à 11:32, Youness Alaoui a écrit :I do think it's a good idea, and should be a safe commit, so I suggest we do it. But I don't want little things to be added each time and we'd end up with no deadline for 0.95. So I say "do it if you want and have time", but if it's not done before we decide to get 0.95 out, we won't wait for it to be done. Jerome, you said you wanted to review all previous mails on the subject and see what's missing before the 0.95 release, did you do it ? Yesif yes, can we get a summary of it ? Iremember you forwarded some emails saying "has it been done?", I'll look into that myself (too busy with the job for today, maybe tonight) but if you ALREADY have a list, it would be nice to share it. The summary is there's only 2 things left-The crash that Vivia talked about-The webcam auto-refuse/auto re-invite for MSN 7.5The third thing is to decide what languages to remove, if we remove them.That's all. Everything was fixed by me, Philousophe and Karol for the most. Other things are post-0.95.I must say, again, that I hope this release will come VERY SOON, because I won't have time for that during my exams time. DO IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE before it's too late. I looked at the bug report database and the release is stable.
Re: Located it! : [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
Many questions..-Do you still crash if you change::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton for::skin::loadPixmapsendbutton_hoverinside # New pixmap-skinnable button (For Windows and Unix Tcl/Tk 8.3)If YES:Replace the sendbutton by: button $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \-command "::amsn::MessageSend $w $text" \(I removed all options except command and image).Do you have the problem with ALL skins? Including Default skin.Le 05-12-02 à 09:01, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit :It is actually the send button. I enabled the "standard grey flat button" in chatwindow.tcl and increased the -width argument (but I mean REALLY increase it, had to set it to 60) and it is stable! I just get a funny huge button that turns normal again when I hover it :) but at least, no crashes. I will keep experimenting, but since I am hacking an unknown code in an unknown language, I'd appreciate it if someone else gave it a try :)
Re: [Amsn-devel] msn audio clips
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ole André Vadla Ravnås wrote: Some info here: http://www.hypothetic.org/docs/msn/phorum/read.php?f=1i=11437t=11437 My bet is on the SIREN-16 codec (G.722.1), which is used for the audio stream in video conversations (new in 7.0), as well as pure voice conversations. It can also be used for the old video conferences that are RTP-based if agreed upon (I think it's the client's first priority if available). Now, there are no open source implementations of this codec AFAIK, but the alternative route I guess is to use wineloader and use the DLL bundled with MSN Messenger = 7.0, dubbed MSN Messenger Audio Codec, which gets installed to c:\windows\system32\sirenacm.dll. That can be a solution for Windows ... but what about Linux and MacOS X ? It seems that mplayer support the codec ... we can maybe extract the file from the mplayer repository ? GrdScarabe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDkIWUPmfsnt4Id3wRArBZAKDT4tRr63Xs+66jt62D6PbRNCBP/gCg5fEW QMvBpw0xA8pR6gtTDk3YD8o= =GvSh -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] wierd happening
Lol, don't worry. The guy was using some web-messenger. Sorry for the false alarm. Tom Le Philousophe - Phil wrote: Do you use HTTP to connect ? Phil Le Jeudi 1 Décembre 2005 17:36, Youness Alaoui a écrit : lol, that is weird! and it was sent with your email adress, not your nickname (unless he uses amsn too and has set up your custom nick to your email adress or something) is it reproducable ? KaKaRoTo On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:18:03 -0500, Tom Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something wierd just happened lol. Any idea? [15:16:17] (R) Eddiee (R) joins conversation [15:16:17] (R) Eddiee (R) says: ??? [15:16:35] Hobbes - abbamania says: what? [15:16:37] (R) Eddiee (R) says: y did u say y ? [15:16:42] Hobbes - abbamania says: huh ;S [15:16:44] Hobbes - abbamania says: :S* [15:16:45] (R) Eddiee (R) says: [15:01] [EMAIL PROTECTED] says: Client-Name: aMSN 0.95b Chat-Logging: Y [15:16:56] (R) Eddiee (R) says: it said that ___ Yahoo! Model Search 2005 - Find the next catwalk superstars - http://uk.news.yahoo.com/hot/model-search/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] msn audio clips
mplayer's codecs are windows .dll files that mplayer is able to read... if the codec is available for windows, and linux (mplayer), it means it's a standard codec available for download somewhere on the net (codec community packs for example), which means we could find a version of that codec for each platform and ship it with amsn. KaKARoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 12:34:12 -0500, GrdScarabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ole André Vadla Ravnås wrote: Some info here: http://www.hypothetic.org/docs/msn/phorum/read.php?f=1i=11437t=11437 My bet is on the SIREN-16 codec (G.722.1), which is used for the audio stream in video conversations (new in 7.0), as well as pure voice conversations. It can also be used for the old video conferences that are RTP-based if agreed upon (I think it's the client's first priority if available). Now, there are no open source implementations of this codec AFAIK, but the alternative route I guess is to use wineloader and use the DLL bundled with MSN Messenger = 7.0, dubbed MSN Messenger Audio Codec, which gets installed to c:\windows\system32\sirenacm.dll. That can be a solution for Windows ... but what about Linux and MacOS X ? It seems that mplayer support the codec ... we can maybe extract the file from the mplayer repository ? GrdScarabe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDkIWUPmfsnt4Id3wRArBZAKDT4tRr63Xs+66jt62D6PbRNCBP/gCg5fEW QMvBpw0xA8pR6gtTDk3YD8o= =GvSh -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
Op vrijdag 2 december 2005 20:15, schreef Youness Alaoui: The third thing is to decide what languages to remove, if we remove them. wasn't that done already ? I'm not sure about removing them from CVS, but I do remember Harry (unless I got the wrong name) sending an updated list of languages... did it exclude those langauges we didn't want in the release ? Yes, I sent it. All languages were on the list, including the ones that are outdated and not maintained. None have been removed yet. Based on earlier discussion about it, I'd say: remove any language with less than 80% of the keys translated (i.e. 153 missing keys or more). --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
Hi, I don't think the trouble is in Tk_CreatePhotoImageFormat() because why does TkCxImage call it in PhotoDisplayProcHook() ??? In addition why Tk_CreatePhotoImageFormat() calls XGetImage ??? The trouble seems to come from ImgPhotoDisplay !! Well but how can I fix that ??? Using XGetGeometry ?? But I will break the compatibility with windows... In addition I took a look at the CVS of Tk : There is only 1 change between 8.4.9 and 8.4.10 and nothing about our bug... And the 8.4.11 version is the same as the 8.4.10 one... Very strange... Anyway I will try to see... Phil Le Vendredi 2 Décembre 2005 17:35, Youness Alaoui a écrit : Phil, can you please look into that ? An idea would also be to look at the diff in the Tk_CreatePhotoImageFormat proc in tk's CVS and look for any bugfix-patch applied for 8.4.11.. that may be a hassle though.. Thanks, KaKaRoTo On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 17:15:53 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #5 0x400b08b4 in Tk_CreatePhotoImageFormat () from /usr/lib/libtk8.4.so No symbol table info available. #6 0x4041e47d in PhotoDisplayProcHook () from /usr/local/msn/utils/TkCximage/TkCximage.so No symbol table info available. #7 0x400a7edf in Tk_RedrawImage () from /usr/lib/libtk8.4.so No symbol table info available. #8 0x40058755 in TkpDisplayButton () from /usr/lib/libtk8.4.so No symbol table info available. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
I say go with it. Thanks, KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:33:41 -0500, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op vrijdag 2 december 2005 20:15, schreef Youness Alaoui: The third thing is to decide what languages to remove, if we remove them. wasn't that done already ? I'm not sure about removing them from CVS, but I do remember Harry (unless I got the wrong name) sending an updated list of languages.. did it exclude those langauges we didn't want in the release ? Yes, I sent it. All languages were on the list, including the ones that are outdated and not maintained. None have been removed yet. Based on earlier discussion about it, I'd say: remove any language with less than 80% of the keys translated (i.e. 153 missing keys or more). --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
Here is the bug, in tcl/tk bug tracker http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=979239group_id=12997atid=112997 Phil Le Vendredi 2 Décembre 2005 21:02, Le Philousophe - Phil a écrit : Hi, I don't think the trouble is in Tk_CreatePhotoImageFormat() because why does TkCxImage call it in PhotoDisplayProcHook() ??? In addition why Tk_CreatePhotoImageFormat() calls XGetImage ??? The trouble seems to come from ImgPhotoDisplay !! Well but how can I fix that ??? Using XGetGeometry ?? But I will break the compatibility with windows... In addition I took a look at the CVS of Tk : There is only 1 change between 8.4.9 and 8.4.10 and nothing about our bug... And the 8.4.11 version is the same as the 8.4.10 one... Very strange... Anyway I will try to see... Phil Le Vendredi 2 Décembre 2005 17:35, Youness Alaoui a écrit : Phil, can you please look into that ? An idea would also be to look at the diff in the Tk_CreatePhotoImageFormat proc in tk's CVS and look for any bugfix-patch applied for 8.4.11.. that may be a hassle though.. Thanks, KaKaRoTo On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 17:15:53 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #5 0x400b08b4 in Tk_CreatePhotoImageFormat () from /usr/lib/libtk8.4.so No symbol table info available. #6 0x4041e47d in PhotoDisplayProcHook () from /usr/local/msn/utils/TkCximage/TkCximage.so No symbol table info available. #7 0x400a7edf in Tk_RedrawImage () from /usr/lib/libtk8.4.so No symbol table info available. #8 0x40058755 in TkpDisplayButton () from /usr/lib/libtk8.4.so No symbol table info available. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=Click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
no, if you don't restart amsn when changing the language, you will probably get a Tk error in the next 5 minutes.. if you don't restart amsn after a skin change, you'll only have a white border instead of a green one or something like that.. nothing major... changing the language should have a more 'agressive' notification than just a bold label in a window... KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 15:06:46 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's perfect, a lot better since the user won't have any annoyin popup... I suggest we go with that.. Another suggestion: do the same for changing languages? Currently, after you select the new language, a popup says that you have to restart aMSN, so maybe write this one too inside the window? Vivia --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
I think it's perfect, a lot better since the user won't have any annoyin popup... I suggest we go with that.. Another suggestion: do the same for changing languages? Currently, after you select the new language, a popup says that you have to restart aMSN, so maybe write this one too inside the window? Vivia --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: Located it! : [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
-Do you still crash if you change : : skin::loadPixmap sendbutton for : : skin::loadPixmapsendbutton_hover inside# New pixmap-skinnable button (For Windows and Unix Tcl/Tk 8.3) Yes, I still crash. If YES: Replace the sendbutton by: button $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -command ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text \ Still crashes :( Do you have the problem with ALL skins? Including Default skin. I haven't tried them ALL one by one, but I haven't found any skins that don't crash. And, yes, default crashes. Thanx for your interest, and hope this was helpful..., Vivia --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: Located it! : [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
Ok try that instead label $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -fg black -bg [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -bd 0 -relief flat \ -activebackground [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -activeforeground black -text [trans send] \ -font sboldf -highlightthickness 0 -pady 0 -padx 0 -relief flat - compound center bind $sendbutton Button1 ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text Thanks for your help Le 05-12-02 à 16:44, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : -Do you still crash if you change : : skin::loadPixmap sendbutton for : : skin::loadPixmapsendbutton_hover inside # New pixmap-skinnable button (For Windows and Unix Tcl/ Tk 8.3) Yes, I still crash. If YES: Replace the sendbutton by: button $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -command ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text \ Still crashes :( Do you have the problem with ALL skins? Including Default skin. I haven't tried them ALL one by one, but I haven't found any skins that don't crash. And, yes, default crashes. Thanx for your interest, and hope this was helpful..., Vivia --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
Yeah Should we re-add them after the release? Or keep it in a zip somewhere on the wiki? Le 05-12-02 à 15:00, Youness Alaoui a écrit : I say go with it. Thanks, KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:33:41 -0500, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op vrijdag 2 december 2005 20:15, schreef Youness Alaoui: The third thing is to decide what languages to remove, if we remove them. wasn't that done already ? I'm not sure about removing them from CVS, but I do remember Harry (unless I got the wrong name) sending an updated list of languages.. did it exclude those langauges we didn't want in the release ? Yes, I sent it. All languages were on the list, including the ones that are outdated and not maintained. None have been removed yet. Based on earlier discussion about it, I'd say: remove any language with less than 80% of the keys translated (i.e. 153 missing keys or more). --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: Located it! : [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
I think I almost got it!!! wait for me... On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:15:45 -0500, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok try that instead label $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -fg black -bg [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -bd 0 -relief flat \ -activebackground [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -activeforeground black -text [trans send] \ -font sboldf -highlightthickness 0 -pady 0 -padx 0 -relief flat - compound center bind $sendbutton Button1 ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text Thanks for your help Le 05-12-02 à 16:44, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : -Do you still crash if you change : : skin::loadPixmap sendbutton for : : skin::loadPixmapsendbutton_hover inside # New pixmap-skinnable button (For Windows and Unix Tcl/Tk 8.3) Yes, I still crash. If YES: Replace the sendbutton by: button $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -command ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text \ Still crashes :( Do you have the problem with ALL skins? Including Default skin. I haven't tried them ALL one by one, but I haven't found any skins that don't crash. And, yes, default crashes. Thanx for your interest, and hope this was helpful..., Vivia --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
Wowsers, amsn is almost ready to release. Good job guys :)On 12/2/05, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YeahShould we re-add them after the release? Or keep it in a zipsomewhere on the wiki?Le 05-12-02 à 15:00, Youness Alaoui a écrit : I say go with it. Thanks, KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:33:41 -0500, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op vrijdag 2 december 2005 20:15, schreef Youness Alaoui: The third thing is to decide what languages to remove, if we remove them. wasn't that done already ? I'm not sure about removing them from CVS, but I do remember Harry (unless I got the wrong name) sending an updated list of languages.. did it exclude those langauges we didn't want in the release ? Yes, I sent it. All languages were on the list, including the ones that are outdated and not maintained. None have been removed yet. Based on earlier discussion about it, I'd say: remove any language with less than 80% of the keys translated (i.e. 153 missing keys or more). --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log filesfor problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK!http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick___ Amsn-devel mailing listAmsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] msn audio clips
It shouldn't work but I at least want to test it on OS X, send it to me :P Thanks Le 05-12-02 à 19:11, Ole André Vadla Ravnås a écrit : Yes, but nevertheless I think that's better than nothing, and later on 64-bit DLLs will for sure come along. Another thing is that there's no way video conversations (new in MSN7 as I mentioned) can be supported without doing it this way, as WMV9 (WMV3) hasn't yet been fully reverse-engineered; and that's the decoder -- no-one is working on reverse-engineering the encoder, which is needed because the two-way nature of this protocol (as opposed to webcam). Siren is another obstacle as well, I don't know of anyone working on REing it, so in short I think the only solution to be able to keep up is to go for a wineloader-approach, that way at least those features can be supported on x86 32-bit (and probably 64-bit as well in a while). Maybe there's some way to achieve the same on Mac as well, but that'll be a lot trickier I suspect. And having this temporary solution, if someone with way too much sparetime should feel like doing it, the Siren-codec could be RE'd. That way voice clips and voice conversations could become 100% platform-independent after a while. I suspect WMV will take longer though, due to no work being put into RE'ing the encoder. Ole André On 12/3/05, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 02 December 2005 11:17, Youness Alaoui wrote: mplayer's codecs are windows .dll files that mplayer is able to read... if the codec is available for windows, and linux (mplayer), it means it's a standard codec available for download somewhere on the net (codec community packs for example), which means we could find a version of that codec for each platform and ship it with amsn. If this codec is only used by the MS Dll in the mplayer, then it won't work on 64-bit linux. Since the Windows Media Player exists only in 32bits, the dll's can't be used. -- Karol Krizka --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
On Friday 02 December 2005 16:28, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote: Yeah Should we re-add them after the release? Or keep it in a zip somewhere on the wiki? Just remove them from the release but not from CVS. Le 05-12-02 à 15:00, Youness Alaoui a écrit : I say go with it. Thanks, KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:33:41 -0500, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op vrijdag 2 december 2005 20:15, schreef Youness Alaoui: The third thing is to decide what languages to remove, if we remove them. wasn't that done already ? I'm not sure about removing them from CVS, but I do remember Harry (unless I got the wrong name) sending an updated list of languages.. did it exclude those langauges we didn't want in the release ? Yes, I sent it. All languages were on the list, including the ones that are outdated and not maintained. None have been removed yet. Based on earlier discussion about it, I'd say: remove any language with less than 80% of the keys translated (i.e. 153 missing keys or more). --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=Click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- Karol Krizka pgpu2yDlwdyCF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Located it! : [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
Hmm...So you say that when you use the GREY FLAT button you don't crash? That's the ONLY thing you change? No, I also have to set its width to like 60 or something (yes it IS huge)... The code below doesn't work either :( Try that: label $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap butfont]\ -fg black -bg [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -bd 0 -relief flat \ -activebackground [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -activeforeground black -text [trans send] \ -font sboldf -highlightthickness 0 -pady 0 -padx 0 -relief flat -compound center bind $sendbutton Button1 ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text This is VERY VERY VERY similar to a normal button in the chatwindow, same picture, same command(label), don't tell me it crashed or I won't beleive you. Le 05-12-02 à 19:34, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : That crashes too... :( It also crashes with the sheeny-deluxe skin (Awesome skin though!! Congrats) On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote: Ok try that instead label $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -fg black -bg [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -bd 0 -relief flat \ -activebackground [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -activeforeground black -text [trans send] \ -font sboldf -highlightthickness 0 -pady 0 -padx 0 -relief flat -compound center bind $sendbutton Button1 ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text Thanks for your help Le 05-12-02 à 16:44, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : -Do you still crash if you change : : skin::loadPixmap sendbutton for : : skin::loadPixmapsendbutton_hover inside# New pixmap-skinnable button (For Windows and Unix Tcl/Tk 8.3) Yes, I still crash. If YES: Replace the sendbutton by: button $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -command ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text \ Still crashes :( Do you have the problem with ALL skins? Including Default skin. I haven't tried them ALL one by one, but I haven't found any skins that don't crash. And, yes, default crashes. Thanx for your interest, and hope this was helpful..., Vivia --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opÌk ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- Where is the life that we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom that we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge that we have lost in information? OEO; --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opÌk ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- Where is the life that we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom that we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge that we have lost in information? OEO;
Re: Located it! : [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
If it's not width 60,it crashes?Like 10, it crashes?Le 05-12-02 à 19:45, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : No, I also have to set its width to like 60 or something (yes it IS huge)... The code below doesn't work either :(
Re: Located it! : [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
If it's not width 60,it crashes? Like 10, it crashes? Yes, it crashes for up to 50 or something... --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: Located it! : [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
Yes, the problem is in the width/heigh of the button, as well as in its alpha components... What happens is that when you have complex Alpha, Tk has to ask X to give it the drawable image behind the pixmap to write in order to blend it correctly.. so it calls XGetImage... problem is that we get a BadMatch error, from Xlib docs : If the drawable is a pixmap, the given rectangle must be wholly contained within the pixmap, or a BadMatch error results. This means that we have a pixmap and we request give me the image at this rectangle's coordinates, specifying X, Y, width and height.. problem is that X and Y might be 0 AND, the width and height might be bigger than the width/heigh of the background... I think it's because the button code from Tk, when it's a Tk_Width and Tk_Height, returns the width and height of the parent window, so we ask for a huge width and height, (and negative X/Y) which gets outside of the border of the drawable background image.. so X returns a BadMatch error in order to say hey, you're outside of the border... Now, the solution ... HEY, Vivia said that it worked!!! wouhou, I fixed it :D I'm going to commit it soon :) let me clean the code and comment the fix, then I'll commit. the solution was to call XGetGeometry, get the visible width and heigh of the drawable BEFORE calling the XGetImage, and make sure the x/y are = 0 and width/height are 1 and the real width/height returned by XGetGeometry... Thanks to all who helped. KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:45:15 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm...So you say that when you use the GREY FLAT button you don't crash? That's the ONLY thing you change? No, I also have to set its width to like 60 or something (yes it IS huge)... The code below doesn't work either :( Try that: label $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap butfont]\ -fg black -bg [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -bd 0 -relief flat \ -activebackground [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -activeforeground black -text [trans send] \ -font sboldf -highlightthickness 0 -pady 0 -padx 0 -relief flat -compound center bind $sendbutton Button1 ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text This is VERY VERY VERY similar to a normal button in the chatwindow, same picture, same command(label), don't tell me it crashed or I won't beleive you. Le 05-12-02 à 19:34, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : That crashes too... :( It also crashes with the sheeny-deluxe skin (Awesome skin though!! Congrats) On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote: Ok try that instead label $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -fg black -bg [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -bd 0 -relief flat \ -activebackground [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -activeforeground black -text [trans send] \ -font sboldf -highlightthickness 0 -pady 0 -padx 0 -relief flat -compound center bind $sendbutton Button1 ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text Thanks for your help Le 05-12-02 à 16:44, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : -Do you still crash if you change : : skin::loadPixmap sendbutton for : : skin::loadPixmapsendbutton_hover inside # New pixmap-skinnable button (For Windows and Unix Tcl/Tk 8.3) Yes, I still crash. If YES: Replace the sendbutton by: button $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -command ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text \ Still crashes :( Do you have the problem with ALL skins? Including Default skin. I haven't tried them ALL one by one, but I haven't found any skins that don't crash. And, yes, default crashes. Thanx for your interest, and hope this was helpful..., Vivia --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opÌk ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- Where is the life that we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom that we have lost in knowledge? Where is the
Re: Located it! : [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
Good teamwork ;-) ~Lee On 12/2/05, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the problem is in the width/heigh of the button, as well as in its alpha components... What happens is that when you have complex Alpha, Tk has to ask X to give it the drawable image behind the pixmap to write in order to blend it correctly.. so it calls XGetImage... problem is that we get a BadMatch error, from Xlib docs : If the drawable is a pixmap, the given rectangle must be wholly contained within the pixmap, or a BadMatch error results. This means that we have a pixmap and we request give me the image at this rectangle's coordinates, specifying X, Y, width and height.. problem is that X and Y might be 0 AND, the width and height might be bigger than the width/heigh of the background... I think it's because the button code from Tk, when it's a Tk_Width and Tk_Height, returns the width and height of the parent window, so we ask for a huge width and height, (and negative X/Y) which gets outside of the border of the drawable background image.. so X returns a BadMatch error in order to say hey, you're outside of the border... Now, the solution ... HEY, Vivia said that it worked!!! wouhou, I fixed it :D I'm going to commit it soon :) let me clean the code and comment the fix, then I'll commit. the solution was to call XGetGeometry, get the visible width and heigh of the drawable BEFORE calling the XGetImage, and make sure the x/y are = 0 and width/height are 1 and the real width/height returned by XGetGeometry... Thanks to all who helped. KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:45:15 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm...So you say that when you use the GREY FLAT button you don't crash? That's the ONLY thing you change? No, I also have to set its width to like 60 or something (yes it IS huge)... The code below doesn't work either :( Try that: label $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap butfont]\ -fg black -bg [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -bd 0 -relief flat \ -activebackground [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -activeforeground black -text [trans send] \ -font sboldf -highlightthickness 0 -pady 0 -padx 0 -relief flat -compound center bind $sendbutton Button1 ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text This is VERY VERY VERY similar to a normal button in the chatwindow, same picture, same command(label), don't tell me it crashed or I won't beleive you. Le 05-12-02 à 19:34, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : That crashes too... :( It also crashes with the sheeny-deluxe skin (Awesome skin though!! Congrats) On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote: Ok try that instead label $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -fg black -bg [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -bd 0 -relief flat \ -activebackground [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -activeforeground black -text [trans send] \ -font sboldf -highlightthickness 0 -pady 0 -padx 0 -relief flat -compound center bind $sendbutton Button1 ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text Thanks for your help Le 05-12-02 à 16:44, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : -Do you still crash if you change : : skin::loadPixmap sendbutton for : : skin::loadPixmapsendbutton_hover inside # New pixmap-skinnable button (For Windows and Unix Tcl/Tk 8.3) Yes, I still crash. If YES: Replace the sendbutton by: button $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -command ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text \ Still crashes :( Do you have the problem with ALL skins? Including Default skin. I haven't tried them ALL one by one, but I haven't found any skins that don't crash. And, yes, default crashes. Thanx for your interest, and hope this was helpful..., Vivia --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opÌk
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
You're sure ? I think we should remove them from CVS because it's not maintained.. if someone wants to maintain them, we'll get them back from CVS's Attic and he can work on them... in the meantime, it can be removed... it's better like this, makes cvs cleaner... in any case, I suggest we leave the decision to the language maintainer. KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:43:36 -0500, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 02 December 2005 16:28, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote: Yeah Should we re-add them after the release? Or keep it in a zip somewhere on the wiki? Just remove them from the release but not from CVS. Le 05-12-02 à 15:00, Youness Alaoui a écrit : I say go with it. Thanks, KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:33:41 -0500, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op vrijdag 2 december 2005 20:15, schreef Youness Alaoui: The third thing is to decide what languages to remove, if we remove them. wasn't that done already ? I'm not sure about removing them from CVS, but I do remember Harry (unless I got the wrong name) sending an updated list of languages.. did it exclude those langauges we didn't want in the release ? Yes, I sent it. All languages were on the list, including the ones that are outdated and not maintained. None have been removed yet. Based on earlier discussion about it, I'd say: remove any language with less than 80% of the keys translated (i.e. 153 missing keys or more). --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=Click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: Located it! : [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
Vivia's been a great help! A big Thanks goes to her. KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:01:12 -0500, Lee Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good teamwork ;-) ~Lee On 12/2/05, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the problem is in the width/heigh of the button, as well as in its alpha components... What happens is that when you have complex Alpha, Tk has to ask X to give it the drawable image behind the pixmap to write in order to blend it correctly.. so it calls XGetImage... problem is that we get a BadMatch error, from Xlib docs : If the drawable is a pixmap, the given rectangle must be wholly contained within the pixmap, or a BadMatch error results. This means that we have a pixmap and we request give me the image at this rectangle's coordinates, specifying X, Y, width and height.. problem is that X and Y might be 0 AND, the width and height might be bigger than the width/heigh of the background... I think it's because the button code from Tk, when it's a Tk_Width and Tk_Height, returns the width and height of the parent window, so we ask for a huge width and height, (and negative X/Y) which gets outside of the border of the drawable background image.. so X returns a BadMatch error in order to say hey, you're outside of the border... Now, the solution ... HEY, Vivia said that it worked!!! wouhou, I fixed it :D I'm going to commit it soon :) let me clean the code and comment the fix, then I'll commit. the solution was to call XGetGeometry, get the visible width and heigh of the drawable BEFORE calling the XGetImage, and make sure the x/y are = 0 and width/height are 1 and the real width/height returned by XGetGeometry... Thanks to all who helped. KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:45:15 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm...So you say that when you use the GREY FLAT button you don't crash? That's the ONLY thing you change? No, I also have to set its width to like 60 or something (yes it IS huge)... The code below doesn't work either :( Try that: label $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap butfont]\ -fg black -bg [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -bd 0 -relief flat \ -activebackground [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -activeforeground black -text [trans send] \ -font sboldf -highlightthickness 0 -pady 0 -padx 0 -relief flat -compound center bind $sendbutton Button1 ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text This is VERY VERY VERY similar to a normal button in the chatwindow, same picture, same command(label), don't tell me it crashed or I won't beleive you. Le 05-12-02 à 19:34, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : That crashes too... :( It also crashes with the sheeny-deluxe skin (Awesome skin though!! Congrats) On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote: Ok try that instead label $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -fg black -bg [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -bd 0 -relief flat \ -activebackground [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -activeforeground black -text [trans send] \ -font sboldf -highlightthickness 0 -pady 0 -padx 0 -relief flat -compound center bind $sendbutton Button1 ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text Thanks for your help Le 05-12-02 à 16:44, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : -Do you still crash if you change : : skin::loadPixmap sendbutton for : : skin::loadPixmapsendbutton_hover inside # New pixmap-skinnable button (For Windows and Unix Tcl/Tk 8.3) Yes, I still crash. If YES: Replace the sendbutton by: button $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -command ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text \ Still crashes :( Do you have the problem with ALL skins? Including Default skin. I haven't tried them ALL one by one, but I haven't found any skins that don't crash. And, yes, default crashes. Thanx for your interest, and hope this was helpful..., Vivia --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK!
Re: Located it! : [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
Her? Wow, first girl on the dev list! Le 05-12-02 à 20:07, Youness Alaoui a écrit : Vivia's been a great help! A big Thanks goes to her. KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:01:12 -0500, Lee Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good teamwork ;-) ~Lee On 12/2/05, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the problem is in the width/heigh of the button, as well as in its alpha components... What happens is that when you have complex Alpha, Tk has to ask X to give it the drawable image behind the pixmap to write in order to blend it correctly.. so it calls XGetImage... problem is that we get a BadMatch error, from Xlib docs : If the drawable is a pixmap, the given rectangle must be wholly contained within the pixmap, or a BadMatch error results. This means that we have a pixmap and we request give me the image at this rectangle's coordinates, specifying X, Y, width and height.. problem is that X and Y might be 0 AND, the width and height might be bigger than the width/heigh of the background... I think it's because the button code from Tk, when it's a Tk_Width and Tk_Height, returns the width and height of the parent window, so we ask for a huge width and height, (and negative X/Y) which gets outside of the border of the drawable background image.. so X returns a BadMatch error in order to say hey, you're outside of the border... Now, the solution ... HEY, Vivia said that it worked!!! wouhou, I fixed it :D I'm going to commit it soon :) let me clean the code and comment the fix, then I'll commit. the solution was to call XGetGeometry, get the visible width and heigh of the drawable BEFORE calling the XGetImage, and make sure the x/y are = 0 and width/height are 1 and the real width/height returned by XGetGeometry... Thanks to all who helped. KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:45:15 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm...So you say that when you use the GREY FLAT button you don't crash? That's the ONLY thing you change? No, I also have to set its width to like 60 or something (yes it IS huge)... The code below doesn't work either :( Try that: label $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap butfont]\ -fg black -bg [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -bd 0 -relief flat \ -activebackground [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -activeforeground black -text [trans send] \ -font sboldf -highlightthickness 0 -pady 0 -padx 0 -relief flat -compound center bind $sendbutton Button1 ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text This is VERY VERY VERY similar to a normal button in the chatwindow, same picture, same command(label), don't tell me it crashed or I won't beleive you. Le 05-12-02 à 19:34, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : That crashes too... :( It also crashes with the sheeny-deluxe skin (Awesome skin though!! Congrats) On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote: Ok try that instead label $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -fg black -bg [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -bd 0 -relief flat \ -activebackground [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -activeforeground black -text [trans send] \ -font sboldf -highlightthickness 0 -pady 0 -padx 0 -relief flat -compound center bind $sendbutton Button1 ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text Thanks for your help Le 05-12-02 à 16:44, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : -Do you still crash if you change : : skin::loadPixmap sendbutton for : : skin::loadPixmapsendbutton_hover inside # New pixmap-skinnable button (For Windows and Unix Tcl/Tk 8.3) Yes, I still crash. If YES: Replace the sendbutton by: button $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -command ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text \ Still crashes :( Do you have the problem with ALL skins? Including Default skin. I haven't tried them ALL one by one, but I haven't found any skins that don't crash. And, yes, default crashes. Thanx for your interest, and hope this was helpful..., Vivia --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
As long as they're in the Attic they should be ok, but it would also be a good idea to make a backup copy of them and post them on the wiki before we package everything up for 0.95 ~Lee On 12/2/05, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're sure ? I think we should remove them from CVS because it's not maintained.. if someone wants to maintain them, we'll get them back from CVS's Attic and he can work on them... in the meantime, it can be removed... it's better like this, makes cvs cleaner... in any case, I suggest we leave the decision to the language maintainer. KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:43:36 -0500, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 02 December 2005 16:28, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote: Yeah Should we re-add them after the release? Or keep it in a zip somewhere on the wiki? Just remove them from the release but not from CVS. Le 05-12-02 à 15:00, Youness Alaoui a écrit : I say go with it. Thanks, KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:33:41 -0500, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op vrijdag 2 december 2005 20:15, schreef Youness Alaoui: The third thing is to decide what languages to remove, if we remove them. wasn't that done already ? I'm not sure about removing them from CVS, but I do remember Harry (unless I got the wrong name) sending an updated list of languages.. did it exclude those langauges we didn't want in the release ? Yes, I sent it. All languages were on the list, including the ones that are outdated and not maintained. None have been removed yet. Based on earlier discussion about it, I'd say: remove any language with less than 80% of the keys translated (i.e. 153 missing keys or more). --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=Click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] skins on website
I also agree... keep 0.95-compatible skins in the webpage and add the end of the page, add something like : Old skins : Skins for aMSN 0.94 with the skins for amsn 0.94 clickable to go to a page with those skins.. once 0.96 is out, we'll have the same, add a skins for aMSN 0.95 added there... maybe add a notice skins for 0.94 are incompatible with amsn 0.95... anyways, docs guys should know better than me how to put up that notice... KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:06:19 -0500, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I totally agree with you. Anyway skin from 0.94 don't behave in the same way on 0.95 (we changed and add a lot of keys) so let's just keep 0.95 skins. We have enough skins anyway. aDarwin, your skin, default, aMSN for Mac skin, unified, that's enough for a launch. Le 05-12-02 à 19:59, Lee Olson a écrit : Concerning the new website, do we want to include all old skins which were contained on our old skins page, or shall I only include the few skins that have been tested to work with 0.95? : old skins page: http://amsn.sourceforge.net/modules.php?name=Skins My vote is to only show the new skins, and (until I have created a new page for them which matches the new website design) create a link to the old page, in which users can download the old skins if they want. (we would need to include a warning that the old skins are not supported by 0.95, but could be supported if they were brought up to 0.95 standards, which will be established once we get a doc. for them) ~Lee --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: Located it! : [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Youness Alaoui wrote: Vivia's been a great help! A big Thanks goes to her. Yes, you spotted the mistake immediately, wrote the code to correct it within dt, and then *I* have been a great help? :) A huge Thanks to you!!! :) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] skins on website
or you could just make a seperate page for the old skinsOn 12/2/05, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I totally agree with you. Anyway skin from 0.94 don't behave in thesame way on 0.95 (we changed and add a lot of keys) so let's justkeep 0.95 skins. We have enough skins anyway. aDarwin, your skin,default, aMSN for Mac skin, unified, that's enough for a launch.Le 05-12-02 à 19:59, Lee Olson a écrit : Concerning the new website, do we want to include all old skins which were contained on our old skins page, or shall I only include the few skins that have been tested to work with 0.95? : old skins page: http://amsn.sourceforge.net/modules.php?name=Skins My vote is to only show the new skins, and (until I have created a new page for them which matches the new website design) create a link to the old page, in which users can download the old skins if they want. (we would need to include a warning that the old skins are not supported by 0.95, but could be supported if they were brought up to 0.95 standards, which will be established once we get a doc. for them) ~Lee --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel ---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log filesfor problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK!http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick___ Amsn-devel mailing listAmsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: Located it! : [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
loool, yeah, I told her the same thing!! do you think she deserves a place in our CREDITS file for being the first girl that got involved with us ? I think it would be nice, but I don't know if everyone would be ok with it, Vivia, your thoughts ? ;) KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:09:01 -0500, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Her? Wow, first girl on the dev list! Le 05-12-02 à 20:07, Youness Alaoui a écrit : Vivia's been a great help! A big Thanks goes to her. KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:01:12 -0500, Lee Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good teamwork ;-) ~Lee On 12/2/05, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the problem is in the width/heigh of the button, as well as in its alpha components... What happens is that when you have complex Alpha, Tk has to ask X to give it the drawable image behind the pixmap to write in order to blend it correctly.. so it calls XGetImage... problem is that we get a BadMatch error, from Xlib docs : If the drawable is a pixmap, the given rectangle must be wholly contained within the pixmap, or a BadMatch error results. This means that we have a pixmap and we request give me the image at this rectangle's coordinates, specifying X, Y, width and height.. problem is that X and Y might be 0 AND, the width and height might be bigger than the width/heigh of the background... I think it's because the button code from Tk, when it's a Tk_Width and Tk_Height, returns the width and height of the parent window, so we ask for a huge width and height, (and negative X/Y) which gets outside of the border of the drawable background image.. so X returns a BadMatch error in order to say hey, you're outside of the border... Now, the solution ... HEY, Vivia said that it worked!!! wouhou, I fixed it :D I'm going to commit it soon :) let me clean the code and comment the fix, then I'll commit. the solution was to call XGetGeometry, get the visible width and heigh of the drawable BEFORE calling the XGetImage, and make sure the x/y are = 0 and width/height are 1 and the real width/height returned by XGetGeometry... Thanks to all who helped. KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:45:15 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm...So you say that when you use the GREY FLAT button you don't crash? That's the ONLY thing you change? No, I also have to set its width to like 60 or something (yes it IS huge)... The code below doesn't work either :( Try that: label $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap butfont]\ -fg black -bg [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -bd 0 -relief flat \ -activebackground [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -activeforeground black -text [trans send] \ -font sboldf -highlightthickness 0 -pady 0 -padx 0 -relief flat -compound center bind $sendbutton Button1 ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text This is VERY VERY VERY similar to a normal button in the chatwindow, same picture, same command(label), don't tell me it crashed or I won't beleive you. Le 05-12-02 à 19:34, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : That crashes too... :( It also crashes with the sheeny-deluxe skin (Awesome skin though!! Congrats) On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote: Ok try that instead label $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -fg black -bg [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -bd 0 -relief flat \ -activebackground [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -activeforeground black -text [trans send] \ -font sboldf -highlightthickness 0 -pady 0 -padx 0 -relief flat -compound center bind $sendbutton Button1 ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text Thanks for your help Le 05-12-02 à 16:44, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : -Do you still crash if you change : : skin::loadPixmap sendbutton for : : skin::loadPixmapsendbutton_hover inside # New pixmap-skinnable button (For Windows and Unix Tcl/Tk 8.3) Yes, I still crash. If YES: Replace the sendbutton by: button $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -command ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text \ Still crashes :( Do you have the problem with ALL skins? Including Default skin. I haven't tried them ALL one by one, but I haven't found any skins that don't crash. And, yes, default crashes. Thanx for your interest, and hope this was helpful..., Vivia --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] skins on website
On 12/2/05, Yves Manuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or you could just make a seperate page for the old skins That was my plan... that's why I was trying to say in my email. For now I would display the new 0.95 skins, link to the old skins page (including the warning about not being compatible with 0.95), and when I have time, migrate the old data from the old skins page to a new page, which would be linked from the 0.95 skins page. ~Lee On 12/2/05, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I totally agree with you. Anyway skin from 0.94 don't behave in the same way on 0.95 (we changed and add a lot of keys) so let's just keep 0.95 skins. We have enough skins anyway. aDarwin, your skin, default, aMSN for Mac skin, unified, that's enough for a launch. Le 05-12-02 à 19:59, Lee Olson a écrit : Concerning the new website, do we want to include all old skins which were contained on our old skins page, or shall I only include the few skins that have been tested to work with 0.95? : old skins page: http://amsn.sourceforge.net/modules.php?name=Skins My vote is to only show the new skins, and (until I have created a new page for them which matches the new website design) create a link to the old page, in which users can download the old skins if they want. (we would need to include a warning that the old skins are not supported by 0.95, but could be supported if they were brought up to 0.95 standards, which will be established once we get a doc. for them) ~Lee --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: Located it! : [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
I don't think gender should play any role. If someone helps us, they deserve credit, no matter what race or gender they are. We're a community, so we're equal. ~Lee On 12/2/05, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: loool, yeah, I told her the same thing!! do you think she deserves a place in our CREDITS file for being the first girl that got involved with us ? I think it would be nice, but I don't know if everyone would be ok with it, Vivia, your thoughts ? ;) KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:09:01 -0500, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Her? Wow, first girl on the dev list! Le 05-12-02 à 20:07, Youness Alaoui a écrit : Vivia's been a great help! A big Thanks goes to her. KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:01:12 -0500, Lee Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good teamwork ;-) ~Lee On 12/2/05, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the problem is in the width/heigh of the button, as well as in its alpha components... What happens is that when you have complex Alpha, Tk has to ask X to give it the drawable image behind the pixmap to write in order to blend it correctly.. so it calls XGetImage... problem is that we get a BadMatch error, from Xlib docs : If the drawable is a pixmap, the given rectangle must be wholly contained within the pixmap, or a BadMatch error results. This means that we have a pixmap and we request give me the image at this rectangle's coordinates, specifying X, Y, width and height.. problem is that X and Y might be 0 AND, the width and height might be bigger than the width/heigh of the background... I think it's because the button code from Tk, when it's a Tk_Width and Tk_Height, returns the width and height of the parent window, so we ask for a huge width and height, (and negative X/Y) which gets outside of the border of the drawable background image.. so X returns a BadMatch error in order to say hey, you're outside of the border... Now, the solution ... HEY, Vivia said that it worked!!! wouhou, I fixed it :D I'm going to commit it soon :) let me clean the code and comment the fix, then I'll commit. the solution was to call XGetGeometry, get the visible width and heigh of the drawable BEFORE calling the XGetImage, and make sure the x/y are = 0 and width/height are 1 and the real width/height returned by XGetGeometry... Thanks to all who helped. KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:45:15 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm...So you say that when you use the GREY FLAT button you don't crash? That's the ONLY thing you change? No, I also have to set its width to like 60 or something (yes it IS huge)... The code below doesn't work either :( Try that: label $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap butfont]\ -fg black -bg [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -bd 0 -relief flat \ -activebackground [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -activeforeground black -text [trans send] \ -font sboldf -highlightthickness 0 -pady 0 -padx 0 -relief flat -compound center bind $sendbutton Button1 ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text This is VERY VERY VERY similar to a normal button in the chatwindow, same picture, same command(label), don't tell me it crashed or I won't beleive you. Le 05-12-02 à 19:34, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : That crashes too... :( It also crashes with the sheeny-deluxe skin (Awesome skin though!! Congrats) On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote: Ok try that instead label $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -fg black -bg [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -bd 0 -relief flat \ -activebackground [::skin::getKey sendbuttonbg] -activeforeground black -text [trans send] \ -font sboldf -highlightthickness 0 -pady 0 -padx 0 -relief flat -compound center bind $sendbutton Button1 ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text Thanks for your help Le 05-12-02 à 16:44, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit : -Do you still crash if you change : : skin::loadPixmap sendbutton for : : skin::loadPixmapsendbutton_hover inside # New pixmap-skinnable button (For Windows and Unix Tcl/Tk 8.3) Yes, I still crash. If YES: Replace the sendbutton by: button $sendbutton -image [::skin::loadPixmap sendbutton] \ -command ::amsn::MessageSend $w $text \ Still crashes :( Do you have the problem with ALL skins? Including Default skin. I haven't tried them ALL one by one, but I haven't found any skins that don't crash. And, yes, default crashes. Thanx for your interest, and hope this was helpful...,
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
they should be available to download for those who want them, and the language managers should have a list of removed languages... the document he sent has a date removed field.. which means all languages will be kept there for record... KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:12:14 -0500, Lee Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As long as they're in the Attic they should be ok, but it would also be a good idea to make a backup copy of them and post them on the wiki before we package everything up for 0.95 ~Lee On 12/2/05, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're sure ? I think we should remove them from CVS because it's not maintained.. if someone wants to maintain them, we'll get them back from CVS's Attic and he can work on them... in the meantime, it can be removed... it's better like this, makes cvs cleaner... in any case, I suggest we leave the decision to the language maintainer. KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:43:36 -0500, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 02 December 2005 16:28, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote: Yeah Should we re-add them after the release? Or keep it in a zip somewhere on the wiki? Just remove them from the release but not from CVS. Le 05-12-02 à 15:00, Youness Alaoui a écrit : I say go with it. Thanks, KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:33:41 -0500, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op vrijdag 2 december 2005 20:15, schreef Youness Alaoui: The third thing is to decide what languages to remove, if we remove them. wasn't that done already ? I'm not sure about removing them from CVS, but I do remember Harry (unless I got the wrong name) sending an updated list of languages.. did it exclude those langauges we didn't want in the release ? Yes, I sent it. All languages were on the list, including the ones that are outdated and not maintained. None have been removed yet. Based on earlier discussion about it, I'd say: remove any language with less than 80% of the keys translated (i.e. 153 missing keys or more). --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=Click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click
[Amsn-devel] current developers page
On the new website, I have included a current developers page. Shall we continue to include these names, or should we move them somewhere else? credits? aMSN was started by: Didimo Emilio Grimaldo T. (retired dev) Dave Mifsud (original author) people who have helped along the way: Agusti Dosaiguas (dev) Lars E (php coder for retired website) Agusti Dosaiguas (dev) Galder (dev) Gaz Iggi (dev) Mugunth (dev) I think it's ok to keep the aMSN was started by listing, but the people who have helped along the way could probably be moved into the credits. This way we will have aMSN was started by and Current Developers listings on the new page. ~Lee --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: Located it! : [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:18:01 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Youness Alaoui wrote: Vivia's been a great help! A big Thanks goes to her. Yes, you spotted the mistake immediately, wrote the code to correct it within dt, and then *I* have been a great help? :) A huge Thanks to you!!! :) as Lee said, it's teamwork... without Phil, I couldn't have understood the bug, the same for finding the solution, where it happened (I don't remember who pointed out how to get the backtrace)... the code I wrote was someone's patch sent on the site Phil found, and without the immediate testing on your machine and your help, we wouldn't have been able to find it. You also found out that it happened only after oct 17th fixes. so, to sum it all, I'll quote Lee : great teamwork! :) -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: Located it! : [Amsn-devel] X_GetImage crashes
LOOOL that was an awesome comic :) KKRT On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:35:18 -0500, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 02 December 2005 17:30, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote: loool, yeah, I told her the same thing!! do you think she deserves a place in our CREDITS file for being the first girl that got involved with us ? I think it would be nice, but I don't know if everyone would be ok with it, Vivia, your thoughts ? ;) Better not, because I didn't *choose* to be a girl. :) Anyway, I should be in there somewhere because of the Greek translation. I still don't get why you are all so impressed... ;) This should explain it: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/06/30 -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] msn audio clips
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In my Gentoo box, the Siren codec is in the file /usr/lib/win32/vivog723.acm: PE executable for MS Windows (DLL) (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bit So effectively it won't work on a 64bits Linux ... but in the same time, including a nonfree codec with aMSN is not really a good idea I think. The first side effet I think about is that the debian package of aMSN won't contain it because the Debian team really takes care of this kind of thing. What about converting the sounds received with mencoder ? mencoder sound -oac mp3lame ... for example, or ogg to be really free ! Obviously, another problem is the necessity to have mencoder ... maybe lame can handle it :S Can I have the audio file too to do some tests ? GrdScarabe Ole André Vadla Ravnås wrote: Yes, but nevertheless I think that's better than nothing, and later on 64-bit DLLs will for sure come along. Another thing is that there's no way video conversations (new in MSN7 as I mentioned) can be supported without doing it this way, as WMV9 (WMV3) hasn't yet been fully reverse-engineered; and that's the decoder -- no-one is working on reverse-engineering the encoder, which is needed because the two-way nature of this protocol (as opposed to webcam). Siren is another obstacle as well, I don't know of anyone working on REing it, so in short I think the only solution to be able to keep up is to go for a wineloader-approach, that way at least those features can be supported on x86 32-bit (and probably 64-bit as well in a while). Maybe there's some way to achieve the same on Mac as well, but that'll be a lot trickier I suspect. And having this temporary solution, if someone with way too much sparetime should feel like doing it, the Siren-codec could be RE'd. That way voice clips and voice conversations could become 100% platform-independent after a while. I suspect WMV will take longer though, due to no work being put into RE'ing the encoder. Ole André On 12/3/05, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 02 December 2005 11:17, Youness Alaoui wrote: mplayer's codecs are windows .dll files that mplayer is able to read... if the codec is available for windows, and linux (mplayer), it means it's a standard codec available for download somewhere on the net (codec community packs for example), which means we could find a version of that codec for each platform and ship it with amsn. If this codec is only used by the MS Dll in the mplayer, then it won't work on 64-bit linux. Since the Windows Media Player exists only in 32bits, the dll's can't be used. -- Karol Krizka -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDkPhPPmfsnt4Id3wRAuLLAKCT8CrFhGNsMLYYAzY42HckA34NPwCdFZGn bk05m9pSwZd465S9AqrfJXk= =eC+H -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] msn audio clips
On Friday 02 December 2005 18:14, Youness Alaoui wrote: sent to karol, jerome, sander and you... I noticed that when you do a Save as, it transforms it from its codec into a normal .wav file... The .dat file dosn't seem to be playable on a 32bit mplayer wit hthe windows dll's installed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/amsn_received $ mplayer32 -ao alsa TFR4316.dat MPlayer 1.0pre6-3.3.4 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team CPU: Advanced Micro Devices Athlon 64 Clawhammer (Family: 8, Stepping: 10) Detected cache-line size is 64 bytes 3DNowExt supported but disabled CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 3DNow SSE SSE2 Warning unknown option cache_min at line 144 Warning unknown option cache_prefill at line 147 77 audio 188 video codecs Failed to open /dev/rtc: Device or resource busy (it should be readable by the user.) Opening joystick device /dev/input/js0 Can't open joystick device /dev/input/js0 : No such file or directory Can't init input joystick Setting up LIRC support... mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Playing TFR4316.dat. Cache fill: 0.05% (3860 bytes)Audio file detected. == Cannot find codec for audio format 0x28E. Read DOCS/HTML/en/codecs.html! == Audio: no sound Video: no video Exiting... (End of file) This is on 64bit Gentoo with a 32bit mplayer install: [ebuild R ] media-libs/win32codecs-20050412 +quicktime +real 12,659 kB [ebuild R ] media-video/mplayer-bin-1.0_pre7-r3 -lirc 0 kB Also according to file command: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/amsn_received $ file TFR4316.dat TFR4316.dat: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, mono 16000 Hz See if you have any luck. KKRT On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:43:43 -0500, GrdScarabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In my Gentoo box, the Siren codec is in the file /usr/lib/win32/vivog723.acm: PE executable for MS Windows (DLL) (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bit So effectively it won't work on a 64bits Linux ... but in the same time, including a nonfree codec with aMSN is not really a good idea I think. The first side effet I think about is that the debian package of aMSN won't contain it because the Debian team really takes care of this kind of thing. What about converting the sounds received with mencoder ? mencoder sound -oac mp3lame ... for example, or ogg to be really free ! Obviously, another problem is the necessity to have mencoder ... maybe lame can handle it :S Can I have the audio file too to do some tests ? GrdScarabe Ole André Vadla Ravnås wrote: Yes, but nevertheless I think that's better than nothing, and later on 64-bit DLLs will for sure come along. Another thing is that there's no way video conversations (new in MSN7 as I mentioned) can be supported without doing it this way, as WMV9 (WMV3) hasn't yet been fully reverse-engineered; and that's the decoder -- no-one is working on reverse-engineering the encoder, which is needed because the two-way nature of this protocol (as opposed to webcam). Siren is another obstacle as well, I don't know of anyone working on REing it, so in short I think the only solution to be able to keep up is to go for a wineloader-approach, that way at least those features can be supported on x86 32-bit (and probably 64-bit as well in a while). Maybe there's some way to achieve the same on Mac as well, but that'll be a lot trickier I suspect. And having this temporary solution, if someone with way too much sparetime should feel like doing it, the Siren-codec could be RE'd. That way voice clips and voice conversations could become 100% platform-independent after a while. I suspect WMV will take longer though, due to no work being put into RE'ing the encoder. Ole André On 12/3/05, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 02 December 2005 11:17, Youness Alaoui wrote: mplayer's codecs are windows .dll files that mplayer is able to read... if the codec is available for windows, and linux (mplayer), it means it's a standard codec available for download somewhere on the net (codec community packs for example), which means we could find a version of that codec for each platform and ship it with amsn. If this codec is only used by the MS Dll in the mplayer, then it won't work on 64-bit linux. Since the Windows Media Player exists only in 32bits, the dll's can't be used. -- Karol Krizka -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDkPhPPmfsnt4Id3wRAuLLAKCT8CrFhGNsMLYYAzY42HckA34NPwCdFZGn bk05m9pSwZd465S9AqrfJXk= =eC+H -END PGP
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
On Friday 02 December 2005 08:32, Youness Alaoui wrote: I do think it's a good idea, and should be a safe commit, so I suggest we do it. But I don't want little things to be added each time and we'd end up with no deadline for 0.95. So I say do it if you want and have time, but if it's not done before we decide to get 0.95 out, we won't wait for it to be done. Done, points to http://amsn.sf.net/skins.php which is the page that the new site has skins in. Currently it just forwards the browser to the skins section in the PHPNuke. Also the Skin dialog is a bit bigger than required. There is an empty space under the OK button the size of the button itself. Does anyone else have it? I tried to add a Restart aMSN for new skins label somewhere, but I am not sure where. Any suggestions? I was thinking having it in the title beside Please select the skin you would like to use. Maybe have it appear after the user selects a new skin. Finally for post 0.95, I think we should make the skin and plugin dialog look about the same. This isn't very hard as it requires mainly moving a punch of pack commands around. I'll add it to wiki. Jerome, you said you wanted to review all previous mails on the subject and see what's missing before the 0.95 release, did you do it ? if yes, can we get a summary of it ? Iremember you forwarded some emails saying has it been done?, I'll look into that myself (too busy with the job for today, maybe tonight) but if you ALREADY have a list, it would be nice to share it. Thanks, KaKaRoTo -- Karol Krizka pgpT8RFgJ2dsm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:46:41 -0500, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 02 December 2005 08:32, Youness Alaoui wrote: I do think it's a good idea, and should be a safe commit, so I suggest we do it. But I don't want little things to be added each time and we'd end up with no deadline for 0.95. So I say do it if you want and have time, but if it's not done before we decide to get 0.95 out, we won't wait for it to be done. Done, points to http://amsn.sf.net/skins.php which is the page that the new site has skins in. Currently it just forwards the browser to the skins section in the PHPNuke. thank you Also the Skin dialog is a bit bigger than required. There is an empty space under the OK button the size of the button itself. Does anyone else have it? Yes I have it and I like it! it's better than having it all squashed up... it reminds me we should, before Monday, make the select plugins and the auto-updater and the Notes windows bigger... I tried to add a Restart aMSN for new skins label somewhere, but I am not sure where. Any suggestions? I was thinking having it in the title beside Please select the skin you would like to use. Maybe have it appear after the user selects a new skin. humm.. you're right, there's no appropriate place to put it... I would suggest putting it in the upper frame, below the Please select the skin you would like to use, have it centered and have note that you may need to restart amsn to view the skin at its fullest, and make it red... Finally for post 0.95, I think we should make the skin and plugin dialog look about the same. This isn't very hard as it requires mainly moving a punch of pack commands around. I'll add it to wiki. good, ok, thanks. but, we might want to think of it as being part of the new preferences dialog... Jerome, you said you wanted to review all previous mails on the subject and see what's missing before the 0.95 release, did you do it ? if yes, can we get a summary of it ? Iremember you forwarded some emails saying has it been done?, I'll look into that myself (too busy with the job for today, maybe tonight) but if you ALREADY have a list, it would be nice to share it. Thanks, KaKaRoTo -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
Hi, I've been adding the refuse video conversation and send webcam invitation thing, but I got into a problem... imagine, you send a video conversation, it gets canceled, you get a webcam invitation, you accept it, and bam, you're sending your webcam... Where in the whole process did the other user ACCEPT your video invitation I'm tired and my gf is pissed at me because I was in front of the PC the whole afternoon, so I'll leave the thinking to you... other than that, I think that theorically, I've already done what we requested... I just don't want to commit it... KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:46:41 -0500, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 02 December 2005 08:32, Youness Alaoui wrote: I do think it's a good idea, and should be a safe commit, so I suggest we do it. But I don't want little things to be added each time and we'd end up with no deadline for 0.95. So I say do it if you want and have time, but if it's not done before we decide to get 0.95 out, we won't wait for it to be done. Done, points to http://amsn.sf.net/skins.php which is the page that the new site has skins in. Currently it just forwards the browser to the skins section in the PHPNuke. Also the Skin dialog is a bit bigger than required. There is an empty space under the OK button the size of the button itself. Does anyone else have it? I tried to add a Restart aMSN for new skins label somewhere, but I am not sure where. Any suggestions? I was thinking having it in the title beside Please select the skin you would like to use. Maybe have it appear after the user selects a new skin. Finally for post 0.95, I think we should make the skin and plugin dialog look about the same. This isn't very hard as it requires mainly moving a punch of pack commands around. I'll add it to wiki. Jerome, you said you wanted to review all previous mails on the subject and see what's missing before the 0.95 release, did you do it ? if yes, can we get a summary of it ? Iremember you forwarded some emails saying has it been done?, I'll look into that myself (too busy with the job for today, maybe tonight) but if you ALREADY have a list, it would be nice to share it. Thanks, KaKaRoTo -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
Hi,
I just commited a 'fix' to the commonly happening bug of the 'invalid
command name ::MSN::SB...
I noticed they come from everywhere in the code, but the last two procs in
the stack trace are cmsn_reconnect and chatTo.
I checked, msn_reconnect is call only from chatTo.
chatTo either creates an SB, or makes sure the SB is still in a connected
state by calling cmsn_reconnect.
to use an old SB instead of creating a new one, it calls SBFor, which
itself does a if {catch [$sb cget -stat]} (the call that causes the
'invalid command' and thus makes sure that the SB command still exists...
problem is that it seems from the SBFor that checks for it to the
cmsn_reconnect, there is a race condition and the SB gets deleted at the
same time.
What I did to fix it is a
if { $sb == 0 || [catch {cmsn_reconnect $sb }] } {
createNewSB
...
cmsn_reconnect $sb
}
which means if there was no SB, it will enter the if and create a new one,
if there was an SB, it will call the cmsn_reconnect proc, if it failed to
reconnect it, it will enter the if, and create a new SB again and recall
cmsn_reconnect...
I hope it fixes the bug, I just want some of you to massively test playing
with chatwindows/SBs to make sure I didn't break anything.. the logic
seems right, I need someone to test the logic though...
Thanks,
KaKaRoTo
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 22:10:25 -0500, Youness Alaoui
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I've been adding the refuse video conversation and send webcam
invitation thing, but I got into a problem...
imagine, you send a video conversation, it gets canceled, you get a
webcam invitation, you accept it, and bam, you're sending your webcam...
Where in the whole process did the other user ACCEPT your video
invitation
I'm tired and my gf is pissed at me because I was in front of the PC the
whole afternoon, so I'll leave the thinking to you... other than that, I
think that theorically, I've already done what we requested... I just
don't want to commit it...
KaKaRoTo
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:46:41 -0500, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Friday 02 December 2005 08:32, Youness Alaoui wrote:
I do think it's a good idea, and should be a safe commit, so I suggest
we
do it. But I don't want little things to be added each time and we'd
end
up with no deadline for 0.95. So I say do it if you want and have
time,
but if it's not done before we decide to get 0.95 out, we won't wait
for
it to be done.
Done, points to http://amsn.sf.net/skins.php which is the page that the
new
site has skins in. Currently it just forwards the browser to the skins
section in the PHPNuke.
Also the Skin dialog is a bit bigger than required. There is an empty
space
under the OK button the size of the button itself. Does anyone else
have it?
I tried to add a Restart aMSN for new skins label somewhere, but I am
not
sure where. Any suggestions? I was thinking having it in the title
beside
Please select the skin you would like to use. Maybe have it appear
after
the user selects a new skin.
Finally for post 0.95, I think we should make the skin and plugin
dialog look
about the same. This isn't very hard as it requires mainly moving a
punch of
pack commands around. I'll add it to wiki.
Jerome, you said you wanted to review all previous mails on the subject
and see what's missing before the 0.95 release, did you do it ? if yes,
can we get a summary of it ? Iremember you forwarded some emails saying
has it been done?, I'll look into that myself (too busy with the job
for
today, maybe tonight)
but if you ALREADY have a list, it would be nice to share it.
Thanks,
KaKaRoTo
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Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
On Friday 02 December 2005 19:06, Youness Alaoui wrote: On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:46:41 -0500, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 02 December 2005 08:32, Youness Alaoui wrote: I do think it's a good idea, and should be a safe commit, so I suggest we do it. But I don't want little things to be added each time and we'd end up with no deadline for 0.95. So I say do it if you want and have time, but if it's not done before we decide to get 0.95 out, we won't wait for it to be done. Done, points to http://amsn.sf.net/skins.php which is the page that the new site has skins in. Currently it just forwards the browser to the skins section in the PHPNuke. thank you Also the Skin dialog is a bit bigger than required. There is an empty space under the OK button the size of the button itself. Does anyone else have it? Yes I have it and I like it! it's better than having it all squashed up... it reminds me we should, before Monday, make the select plugins and the auto-updater and the Notes windows bigger... I think it's too big. Could we maybe halve that space? I tried to add a Restart aMSN for new skins label somewhere, but I am not sure where. Any suggestions? I was thinking having it in the title beside Please select the skin you would like to use. Maybe have it appear after the user selects a new skin. humm.. you're right, there's no appropriate place to put it... I would suggest putting it in the upper frame, below the Please select the skin you would like to use, have it centered and have note that you may need to restart amsn to view the skin at its fullest, and make it red... Done. Finally for post 0.95, I think we should make the skin and plugin dialog look about the same. This isn't very hard as it requires mainly moving a punch of pack commands around. I'll add it to wiki. good, ok, thanks. but, we might want to think of it as being part of the new preferences dialog... I'll do it in case the preference dialog won't be finished for 0.96. -- Karol Krizka pgpe159s686AH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Amsn-devel] Fwd: [amsn - Help] RE: TLS + AMD 64Bits = Problem
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 22:42:39 -0500, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 29 November 2005 08:31, Youness Alaoui wrote: On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:52:37 -0500, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 29 November 2005 06:05, Youness Alaoui wrote: who has 64 bits.. who can answer him ? What I did was just install the tls package from the gentoo portage. You might want to search for tls in the Mandriva install thing. well, the problem is that most people on the forums want to compile it and it doesn't work.. I don't know if that's our problem, but I just wanted to point out that we may need to add binary support for 64bits architectures. AND, do you think we should add a tls 1.5 download with the tls auto-installer and tls for 64bits ? We could add tls as a dependency (an optional one?) to the RPM if it gets installed through some automatic thing like apt or yum. I can also provide the 64bit binaries if we want an option for autoinstalled. Also do you want to update the rest of architectures to 1.5? yep, I'd like to have the 64 bit binary in the auto-installer, since more people are using 64 bits archs, we can't just say yeah, if you use 64bits, go compile it yourself and also, it seems that tls 1.4 doesn't work for 64 bit, you need 1.5 in order for it to be 'compatible' with 64bit.. so I don't want to have a list of 1.4 and 1.5 downloads, it would be better to have it consistent everywhere... I have created the x86_64 binary and would like to add it to the list. But since we are downloading the packages from sf.net file release system and I don't have permission to use it, could someone else upload it? I can email you the package. someone else can upload it for you, I can't right now, or you can put it in the 'things to do when we do a release' wiki page, and add update tls packages... so we update all of them. can you post it to the wiki as an attached file until we put it in SF ? (that is of course only if no other admin has the time to add the file to the file releases... And about updating the other architectures. Are there any volunteers to do it on it on their own computer or should I use the sf.net's compile farm? you must ask for the compile farm and wait for SF.net to accept you (given your reasons/motivations) before you can access the compile farm.. yeah, i know.. it sucks... can someone also confirm that 1.5 for x86 works with 64bit archs ? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13248package_id=2183 6 here are the releases of tls (official), I don't see as many options as amsn gives.. if I remember correctly we offer a lot of options, right ? I suggest we also keep it to a minimum, remove the windows/mac because it's already shipped with it, the only problem is source package for linux... I'll remove Win and Mac when I add the x86_64 package. will be done at the same time as update tls packages.. rpms and deb files (and autopackage and klik, and..) will all depend on tcltls, so it's not a problem.. I also would like to suggest that we automatically install tls with amsn, instead of giving radio buttons and the choice to the user to select his platform... using the ::tcl_platform we already know what's the platform, so why bother asking the user ?? Added to wiki. Thanks -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] Fwd: [amsn - Help] RE: TLS + AMD 64Bits = Problem
On Friday 02 December 2005 20:10, Youness Alaoui wrote: And about updating the other architectures. Are there any volunteers to do it on it on their own computer or should I use the sf.net's compile farm? you must ask for the compile farm and wait for SF.net to accept you (given your reasons/motivations) before you can access the compile farm.. yeah, i know.. it sucks... They must have changed their policies. All you have to do is just give them a ssh key and you are set. I compiled the trac dependencies on them as I didn't have an x86 machine. -- Karol Krizka pgpIKbm533jXV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 22:54:56 -0500, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 02 December 2005 19:06, Youness Alaoui wrote: On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:46:41 -0500, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 02 December 2005 08:32, Youness Alaoui wrote: I do think it's a good idea, and should be a safe commit, so I suggest we do it. But I don't want little things to be added each time and we'd end up with no deadline for 0.95. So I say do it if you want and have time, but if it's not done before we decide to get 0.95 out, we won't wait for it to be done. Done, points to http://amsn.sf.net/skins.php which is the page that the new site has skins in. Currently it just forwards the browser to the skins section in the PHPNuke. thank you Also the Skin dialog is a bit bigger than required. There is an empty space under the OK button the size of the button itself. Does anyone else have it? Yes I have it and I like it! it's better than having it all squashed up... it reminds me we should, before Monday, make the select plugins and the auto-updater and the Notes windows bigger... I think it's too big. Could we maybe halve that space? don't know, I like it like that.. you can try to halve the space and see what it looks like and then decide whether you keep it like that or not. I tried to add a Restart aMSN for new skins label somewhere, but I am not sure where. Any suggestions? I was thinking having it in the title beside Please select the skin you would like to use. Maybe have it appear after the user selects a new skin. humm.. you're right, there's no appropriate place to put it... I would suggest putting it in the upper frame, below the Please select the skin you would like to use, have it centered and have note that you may need to restart amsn to view the skin at its fullest, and make it red... Done. Thanks, Finally for post 0.95, I think we should make the skin and plugin dialog look about the same. This isn't very hard as it requires mainly moving a punch of pack commands around. I'll add it to wiki. good, ok, thanks. but, we might want to think of it as being part of the new preferences dialog... I'll do it in case the preference dialog won't be finished for 0.96. as you wish, but whether you do it or not is not important, if it's in the wiki, then we're alright, sthat way it can be done later or not, we'll see as long as there's a trace of it. -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
I assigned Fred to do it, I found in my old mails a patch from june(yes!) for increasing the size of the notes window and we just forgot to commit the patch!Le 05-12-02 à 22:06, Youness Alaoui a écrit :Notes windows bigger...
Re: [Amsn-devel] Something else?!
I read what you said...And I just don't understand what you said! You send a video conversation --Since when do we support videoconversation? It gets canceled? --So what? it gets canceled, so we don't have a conversation You get a webcam invitation, you accept it , and bam youre sending your webcam --Where's the problem? You just accepted it? Where in the whole process did the other user ACCEPT your video invitation --HUH??!! Sorry I just don't understand AT ALL! Le 05-12-02 à 22:10, Youness Alaoui a écrit : Hi, I've been adding the refuse video conversation and send webcam invitation thing, but I got into a problem... imagine, you send a video conversation, it gets canceled, you get a webcam invitation, you accept it, and bam, you're sending your webcam... Where in the whole process did the other user ACCEPT your video invitation I'm tired and my gf is pissed at me because I was in front of the PC the whole afternoon, so I'll leave the thinking to you... other than that, I think that theorically, I've already done what we requested... I just don't want to commit it... KaKaRoTo On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:46:41 -0500, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 02 December 2005 08:32, Youness Alaoui wrote: I do think it's a good idea, and should be a safe commit, so I suggest we do it. But I don't want little things to be added each time and we'd end up with no deadline for 0.95. So I say do it if you want and have time, but if it's not done before we decide to get 0.95 out, we won't wait for it to be done. Done, points to http://amsn.sf.net/skins.php which is the page that the new site has skins in. Currently it just forwards the browser to the skins section in the PHPNuke. Also the Skin dialog is a bit bigger than required. There is an empty space under the OK button the size of the button itself. Does anyone else have it? I tried to add a Restart aMSN for new skins label somewhere, but I am not sure where. Any suggestions? I was thinking having it in the title beside Please select the skin you would like to use. Maybe have it appear after the user selects a new skin. Finally for post 0.95, I think we should make the skin and plugin dialog look about the same. This isn't very hard as it requires mainly moving a punch of pack commands around. I'll add it to wiki. Jerome, you said you wanted to review all previous mails on the subject and see what's missing before the 0.95 release, did you do it ? if yes, can we get a summary of it ? Iremember you forwarded some emails saying has it been done?, I'll look into that myself (too busy with the job for today, maybe tonight) but if you ALREADY have a list, it would be nice to share it. Thanks, KaKaRoTo -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
