[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
the more voters, the better for the contest. I don't believe so. A smaller number of qualified testers would yield a more reliable result than a huge number of people who do not know how to develop software. No one will concede to the developer that the app crashes because of Donut - in fact, he can't tell whether it's the app or the operating system - s/he will just give 1 star. But that's the way it works with Google - let the developers work for nothing and have the mob blame them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
I don't believe so. A smaller number of qualified testers would yield a more reliable result than a huge number of people who do not know how to develop software. No one will concede to the developer that the app crashes because of Donut - in fact, he can't tell whether it's the app or the operating system - s/he will just give 1 star. But that's the way it works with Google - let the developers work for nothing and have the mob blame them. In my opinion this is plane wrong. An applications is mainly used by none developers and thats why the response from a simple user counts a lot more. It is also one of the main principles how you should develop an application. You need to develop for the user and not for you. It is very often not easy to know what the user actually wants most, thats for sure *g*. You can for example create the most powerful command line tool for file management with cool batch features and automation just like you would like it as a old style programmer coming from a unix background. But the user will most likely prefer the simple windows explorer. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
Right, I think he's suggesting however, that the issue is with 1.6. A random user who gets the app and has it crash immediately won't think Oh, this likely has something to do with the recent update to my phone, I'll skip judging. They're more likely to think Crashed, sucks, 1star. Which leads to a possible good number of 1star ratings due to something the developer could have no hope of knowing/fixing/understanding as 1.6sdk wasn't out prior to releasing for ADC. Developers however, are far more likely to get a crashing app, and say Oh, it might be due to 1.6, I'll skip, and skip. - Dan On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Beowolve beowo...@gmail.com wrote: I don't believe so. A smaller number of qualified testers would yield a more reliable result than a huge number of people who do not know how to develop software. No one will concede to the developer that the app crashes because of Donut - in fact, he can't tell whether it's the app or the operating system - s/he will just give 1 star. But that's the way it works with Google - let the developers work for nothing and have the mob blame them. In my opinion this is plane wrong. An applications is mainly used by none developers and thats why the response from a simple user counts a lot more. It is also one of the main principles how you should develop an application. You need to develop for the user and not for you. It is very often not easy to know what the user actually wants most, thats for sure *g*. You can for example create the most powerful command line tool for file management with cool batch features and automation just like you would like it as a old style programmer coming from a unix background. But the user will most likely prefer the simple windows explorer. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
expert judging is a good idea when the judging can be detailed and specific. When judging is limited to 1-4 stars over 4 vague categories, large numbers are best. On Oct 6, 2:37 am, walthes andreas.walt...@googlemail.com wrote: the more voters, the better for the contest. I don't believe so. A smaller number of qualified testers would yield a more reliable result than a huge number of people who do not know how to develop software. No one will concede to the developer that the app crashes because of Donut - in fact, he can't tell whether it's the app or the operating system - s/he will just give 1 star. But that's the way it works with Google - let the developers work for nothing and have the mob blame them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 19:15, Georgios Galyfos yorg...@gmail.com wrote: I am sorry for asking this. I assume the developers taking part in the challenge are allowed to judge in the contest, but this way they would be allowed to judge even their own app, right? I havent used the judging app yet, being afraid to risk disqualification of my entry. The terms dont state explicitly anywhere if the developers who have entered apps in the contest are allowed to judge. please someone let me know about this. I have made an app for the contest and I really want to see what the other apps of the challenge are. cheers I cannot tell officially, but I am quite sure you can vote. And in these mailing lists, you can see a lot of developers with ADC2 apps who said they tested/voted for ADC2 apps. Anyway, if you still fear voting, just install/test apps and then do skip voting. Though I think you should vote the more voters, the better for the contest. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
Compatibility with 1.6 could be a real problem for ADC2. Yesterday I got the update to Donut on my G1. I had installed the ADC2 judging app a couple of days before. The judging app still works fine. Last night I downloaded an entry called OpenGesture. It force crashed over and over. I'm unable to tell whether the app is crashing because it is poorly designed, or because of compatibility issues with 1.6. I gave the developers the benefit of the doubt and gave the app an overall 3 star rating. This sounds like the coincidence of ADC2 and the release of Donut was not thought through very well. There could be some ugly backlash on this. On Sep 29, 6:58 pm, b2amedina b2amed...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Have a question about ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut) We rigorously tested our submission (CubeWorks,http://www.cubeworksmobile.com) with Android 1.5 but it crashes on startup with 1.6 If the rumors are true andDonutdoes become available next week won't that make judging unfair since some judges may be using 1.6 The 1.6 SDK was made available on Sept 15 and the ADC2 submissions closed Aug 30th. Our trouble is being caused by the android.opengl.GLU.gluUnProject() method but I am sure there are other minor incompatibilities between the two versions. 09-17 01:52:04.569: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(796): java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: length - offset n 09-17 01:52:04.569: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(796): at android.opengl.Matrix.multiplyMV(Native Method) 09-17 01:52:04.569: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(796): at android.opengl.GLU.gluUnProject(GLU.java:285) Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Regards, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
On the other hand... For those that had a submission with a terminal error, it will put doubt into the minds of the judges as to the cause of the error: poor programming or 1.6. -John Coryat What Zip Code Radar Now! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 16:18, polyclefsoftware dja...@gmail.com wrote: it is poorly designed, or because of compatibility issues with 1.6. I gave the developers the benefit of the doubt and gave the app an overall 3 star rating. Best (fairest) thing to do when you suspect behavior may have been impacted by Donut, is to just skip voting for it. This way your vote won't count at all and those with cupcake will still vote for the real cupcake behavior. And this should still leave plenty of applications working ok with Donut that you can vote for. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
That makes sense. I knew we could skip installation of apps, but didn't know I could skip voting as well. I'll do that from now on. I haven't tested my entry under 1.6, so I don't know if there are issues. Your average user probably won't care if it doesn't work because of the OS version, though. They'll just care if it works or not. On Oct 2, 10:20 am, Cédric Berger cedric.berge...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 16:18, polyclefsoftware dja...@gmail.com wrote: it is poorly designed, or because of compatibility issues with 1.6. I gave the developers the benefit of the doubt and gave the app an overall 3 star rating. Best (fairest) thing to do when you suspect behavior may have been impacted by Donut, is to just skip voting for it. This way your vote won't count at all and those with cupcake will still vote for the real cupcake behavior. And this should still leave plenty of applications working ok with Donut that you can vote for. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
But you would hope the number of developers voting would be significantly less than number of random users. And unfortunately, they very well might not think Oh, this could have something to do with the recent update and skip. They'll just give a 1 star. - Dan On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:05 PM, polyclefsoftware dja...@gmail.com wrote: That makes sense. I knew we could skip installation of apps, but didn't know I could skip voting as well. I'll do that from now on. I haven't tested my entry under 1.6, so I don't know if there are issues. Your average user probably won't care if it doesn't work because of the OS version, though. They'll just care if it works or not. On Oct 2, 10:20 am, Cédric Berger cedric.berge...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 16:18, polyclefsoftware dja...@gmail.com wrote: it is poorly designed, or because of compatibility issues with 1.6. I gave the developers the benefit of the doubt and gave the app an overall 3 star rating. Best (fairest) thing to do when you suspect behavior may have been impacted by Donut, is to just skip voting for it. This way your vote won't count at all and those with cupcake will still vote for the real cupcake behavior. And this should still leave plenty of applications working ok with Donut that you can vote for. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
I am sorry for asking this. I assume the developers taking part in the challenge are allowed to judge in the contest, but this way they would be allowed to judge even their own app, right? I havent used the judging app yet, being afraid to risk disqualification of my entry. The terms dont state explicitly anywhere if the developers who have entered apps in the contest are allowed to judge. please someone let me know about this. I have made an app for the contest and I really want to see what the other apps of the challenge are. cheers On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Dan Sherman impact...@gmail.com wrote: But you would hope the number of developers voting would be significantly less than number of random users. And unfortunately, they very well might not think Oh, this could have something to do with the recent update and skip. They'll just give a 1 star. - Dan On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:05 PM, polyclefsoftware dja...@gmail.comwrote: That makes sense. I knew we could skip installation of apps, but didn't know I could skip voting as well. I'll do that from now on. I haven't tested my entry under 1.6, so I don't know if there are issues. Your average user probably won't care if it doesn't work because of the OS version, though. They'll just care if it works or not. On Oct 2, 10:20 am, Cédric Berger cedric.berge...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 16:18, polyclefsoftware dja...@gmail.com wrote: it is poorly designed, or because of compatibility issues with 1.6. I gave the developers the benefit of the doubt and gave the app an overall 3 star rating. Best (fairest) thing to do when you suspect behavior may have been impacted by Donut, is to just skip voting for it. This way your vote won't count at all and those with cupcake will still vote for the real cupcake behavior. And this should still leave plenty of applications working ok with Donut that you can vote for. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
Which it does. On Sep 30, 6:44 pm, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: The only fair solution would be to make sure the judging app doesn't function on 1.6 -John Coryat What Zip Code? Radar Now! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
On Sep 30, 11:00 am, ander...@phdgaming.com ander...@phdgaming.com wrote: The second round of judging also includes user judging - 40% of the outcome if I remember correctly. I believe you are incorrect on this. This first round of judging is user judging, and makes up 40% of an apps final rating. The second round is all expert judging by Google that counts for the remaining 60% and has no user judging. The applications final rating and placement is determined by both rounds. From http://code.google.com/android/adc/adc2_terms.html b. JUDGING: All Qualifying Entries for the Second Round Judging will be judged by (1) end users of Android-powered handsets who choose to participate in judging, whether or not they participated in First Round Judging (Community Judges), and (2) a panel of experts in the fields of mobile devices, cellular telecommunications, software development, and/or technology innovation (Expert Judges). Google will select the Expert Judges from the member organizations of the Open Handset Alliance, from Google, or from other organizations. Clearly, second round judging will include end users. -John Coryat What Zip Code? Radar Now! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
From http://code.google.com/android/adc/adc2_terms.html Ooops, looks like I had it wrong. Thanks for the correction - had missed that previously. :) This does present a bit of an interesting situation. The HTC Tatoo coming out in October has a 240X320 screen the smallest of any mainstream Android device yet, I believe and uses a different type of touch screen. I wonder how many developers of non-standard button UIs (such as games) have code that adjusts the clickable area appropriately for such a device in their original submission? Not to mention my personal application is only really useful on a ~320X~480 screen size or greater due to font size. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
It would appear 1.6 is now being rolled out to all T-mobile users ( http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=AndroidGeneralthread.id=6733 and most android news sites). Ouch for those who happen to have application problems under the new release. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
Crashing on unofficial builds is worse than crashing at startup on official builds? =P - Dan On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Pieter pie...@gamesquare.nl wrote: The problem is a little worse for us. Our app does runs fine on 1.6 in the simulator, but we got complaints about crashes from people running unofficial builds: java.lang.ClassCastException: android.graphics.drawable.BitmapDrawable at com.google.android.maps.MyLocationOverlay.getLocationDot (MyLocationOverlay.java:180) at com.google.android.maps.MyLocationOverlay.drawMyLocation (MyLocationOverlay.java:561) at com.google.android.maps.MyLocationOverlay.draw (MyLocationOverlay.java:511) at com.google.android.maps.OverlayBundle.draw (OverlayBundle.java:45) at com.google.android.maps.MapView.onDraw(MapView.java:476) Based on the exception trace it seems the MapView widget in combination with the MyLocation overlay is bugged in some unofficial 1.6 build(s) but work fine in 1.6 in the simulator. Already some people gave bad ratings (and comments) in the shop because of this bug, and undoubtedly will in ADC2. On the web, some more scattered reports about this problem can be found, including: http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/43615742f462bbf1/eb170a84a0ff385e?#eb170a84a0ff385e On the one hand, these people try an application and it just crashes so they are entitled to give bad ratings. On the other hand, they run an unofficial build, so maybe they should take that into account. We just hope relatively few judges run these builds. We actually hope the official 1.6 comes out sooner instead of later so some potential judges already upgraded from an unofficial build to the official 1.6 when they judge. Anyway, anyone who uses MyOverlay in their application suffers from the same problem. Regards, Pieter (SpecTrek). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 01:58, b2amedina b2amed...@gmail.com wrote: If the rumors are true and Donut does become available next week won't that make judging unfair since some judges may be using 1.6 The 1.6 SDK was made available on Sept 15 and the ADC2 submissions closed Aug 30th. Donut is already available for developer phones ADP1 and Ion. I hope developers making the update and judging apps are wise enough to skip voting for apps crashing, since they can't tell if it would have worked on cupcake. But for other phones I have not seen yet real rumors for a release next week. I doubt an OTA update will be rolled out before the end of this judging round. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
The second round of judging also includes user judging - 40% of the outcome if I remember correctly. So the likelihood that a significant number of judges will be running 1.6 before all judging ends is quite high in my opinion. Warren On Sep 30, 6:54 am, Cédric Berger cedric.berge...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 01:58, b2amedina b2amed...@gmail.com wrote: If the rumors are true and Donut does become available next week won't that make judging unfair since some judges may be using 1.6 The 1.6 SDK was made available on Sept 15 and the ADC2 submissions closed Aug 30th. Donut is already available for developer phones ADP1 and Ion. I hope developers making the update and judging apps are wise enough to skip voting for apps crashing, since they can't tell if it would have worked on cupcake. But for other phones I have not seen yet real rumors for a release next week. I doubt an OTA update will be rolled out before the end of this judging round. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
The only fair solution would be to make sure the judging app doesn't function on 1.6 -John Coryat What Zip Code? Radar Now! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
The second round of judging also includes user judging - 40% of the outcome if I remember correctly. I believe you are incorrect on this. This first round of judging is user judging, and makes up 40% of an apps final rating. The second round is all expert judging by Google that counts for the remaining 60% and has no user judging. The applications final rating and placement is determined by both rounds. As an aside, the news post did state that the judging would be open for a minimum of two weeks - or could theoretically end next week. I'd guess they won't officially release 1.6 until the close the judging (and if it is to be next week as per a rumor, it could still work out). Do agree that it might be fairest to prevent the judging app from running on 1.6 devices that have it early (such as the ADP1) in the meantime. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
+1 judging app shouldn't function on 1.6 ADC2-Round1 should end before 1.6 official upgrade. Existing judging app should not be used for ADC2-Round2 (create a new version) and... neither should the new judging app (round2) function on 1.6 On Sep 30, 8:44 pm, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: The only fair solution would be to make sure the judging app doesn't function on 1.6 -John Coryat What Zip Code? Radar Now! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: ADC2 submissions and Android 1.6 (Donut)
The problem is a little worse for us. Our app does runs fine on 1.6 in the simulator, but we got complaints about crashes from people running unofficial builds: java.lang.ClassCastException: android.graphics.drawable.BitmapDrawable at com.google.android.maps.MyLocationOverlay.getLocationDot (MyLocationOverlay.java:180) at com.google.android.maps.MyLocationOverlay.drawMyLocation (MyLocationOverlay.java:561) at com.google.android.maps.MyLocationOverlay.draw (MyLocationOverlay.java:511) at com.google.android.maps.OverlayBundle.draw (OverlayBundle.java:45) at com.google.android.maps.MapView.onDraw(MapView.java:476) Based on the exception trace it seems the MapView widget in combination with the MyLocation overlay is bugged in some unofficial 1.6 build(s) but work fine in 1.6 in the simulator. Already some people gave bad ratings (and comments) in the shop because of this bug, and undoubtedly will in ADC2. On the web, some more scattered reports about this problem can be found, including: http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/43615742f462bbf1/eb170a84a0ff385e?#eb170a84a0ff385e On the one hand, these people try an application and it just crashes so they are entitled to give bad ratings. On the other hand, they run an unofficial build, so maybe they should take that into account. We just hope relatively few judges run these builds. We actually hope the official 1.6 comes out sooner instead of later so some potential judges already upgraded from an unofficial build to the official 1.6 when they judge. Anyway, anyone who uses MyOverlay in their application suffers from the same problem. Regards, Pieter (SpecTrek). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---