Re: [apple-crop] New Holland vs. Kubota Tractor
Hello Craig, We looked real hard at New Holland vs. John Deere just this past fall.seeking a new narrow orchard tractor that we could also use for blue berries and brambles in addition to our high density apples. I posed the same question as you did to this group then. For many multiple reasons we landed on New Holland and purchased a new New Holland T4.75V four wheel drive this past fall. It has an overall width of 43", a great turn radius, plenty of horse power, and despite its size a comfortable cab. We have used it hard since its arrival in November and it has performed very well thus far.no regrets with this purchase at all. We were lucky to find a Tier III that our local dealer brought in from California. The new Tier IV is out now and our model has been replaced by a T4.80V.and is $10,000 more! There may still be a couple of Tier III's out there. We had located three of our tractor in California at the time of purchase. When we looked Deere had just come out with its very newest narrow tractors and they had one at the Great Lakes Expo that I reviewed in depth with their factor rep.it was nice tractor and we have both a JD 5320N and a JD 5420N and we like them both.but the new New Holland definitely our performs them in terms of maneuverability, size, and operator comfort. I hope that this helps Craig.give me a call if you want. You know where to find me! Best, Kurt Kurt W. Alstede General Manager, Alstede Farms, LLC P.O. Box 278 1 Alstede Farms Lane, Chester, New Jersey 07930 United States of America Tel: 908-879-7189 Fax: 908-879-7815 <http://www.alstedefarms.com> www.alstedefarms.com cid:image001.jpg@01CFB1AF.83320400Picture1 From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Craig Tanner Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 5:47 PM To: 'Apple-crop discussion list' Subject: [apple-crop] New Holland vs. Kubota Tractor I am wanting to get a new orchard tractor for next year and am looking at either the New Holland T4000 series or the Kubota M8540 narrow. I have an older New Holland TN85F that I have been happy with. How do the new Kubota and New Holland compare with each other and the older TN85F? Thanks Craig Tanner Tanners Orchard, Ltd. Speer, IL 309-493-5442 office 309-493-5741 fax 309-360-5610 cell ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] New Holland vs. John Deere
Hello Friends, We appreciate all of your feedback and thought that we would let you know that we did decide to go blue. We purchased a T4.75V FWD which just arrived at our dealer from California. We are really excited about the 43” width and the turn radius. Thanks again for helping us confirm our decision. We will let you know how we make out. Best, Kurt Kurt W. Alstede General Manager, Alstede Farms, LLC P.O. Box 278 1 Alstede Farms Lane, Chester, New Jersey 07930 United States of America Tel: 908-879-7189 Fax: 908-879-7815 www.alstedefarms.com cid:image001.jpg@01CFB1AF.83320400Picture1 From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Evan B. Milburn Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 8:56 AM To: Apple-crop discussion list Subject: Re: [apple-crop] New Holland vs. John Deere After JD, Kubota, and Massy, We are all for New Holland. Reliably, Great cab, nice gear choices, and especially their sharp turning ability for compact orchards and vineyards. Evan B. Milburn www.milburnorchards.com <http://www.milburnorchards.com/> On Sunday, November 8, 2015 7:39 AM, Franklyn Carlson <fcarl...@carlsonorchards.com> wrote: Kurt: We have 2 , a 5525N,the older one, and a newer 5093EN. We do like these tractors. The one bad thing is with the short wheelbase they ride rough over the road. I think the Ford New Holland will ride smother because the wheel base is longer. With their special front end, they turn very sharp. Up here, our decision is on the dealer. The JD is 15 mins away, and the NH is 1 hour away. Frank Carlson Franklyn W. Carlson, Pres. Carlson Orchards, Inc. 115 Oak Hill Road, P.O. Box 359 Harvard, MA. 01451 978-456-3916 office 617-968-4180 cell From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of BMH Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 11:01 AM To: Apple-crop discussion list <apple-crop@virtualorchard.net> Subject: Re: [apple-crop] New Holland vs. John Deere Kurt, We don't have any of the vineyard series New Holland models, but we have 2 of the orchard profile models, both with super-steer. One is an open station and the other has a cab. We have found New Holland's equipment to be competitive with John Deere equipment in terms of quality and peformance. Some will like "green" better than "blue" no matter what. However, our New Holland equipment has served very well and seems to be well-designed. The New Holland cab is also more comfortable than the cabs on other equipment, especially the Kubota models. (I don't want to knock Kubota, though, as they have the most fuel-efficient models on the market.) These new tractors have a ton of electronics and the new emissions regulations add yet another layer to the complexity of their designs. There is always danger of electronics failure with any brand, so having a dealership nearby would be influential in a purchase decision, particularly if the price is competitive. Do parts come from a local warehouse or do they have to be shipped from Europe? We also have a JD 5083EN set up with forklifts front and back and my son says it's the best tractor we've even owned for that purpose. He prefers the shuttle on the JD to the New Holland, but both work well. In conclusion, I wouldn't fear the New Holland or the JD models you are investigating. But we've been pleased with "blue's" performance, for sure. -Brad Brad M. Hollabaugh General Manager Hollabaugh Bros., Inc. On 11/7/2015 9:50 AM, Kurt W. Alstede wrote: Hello Fellow Growers: We are evaluating a new orchard tractor purchase and wanted to solicit input from fellow growers. We currently have John Deere’s…specifically a 5320N 2WD and a 5420N 4WD; both with cabs. We are very pleased with both these tractors. We are currently looking at a John Deere 5085EN versus a New Holland T4.75V. They are both essentially the same tractor in terms of base features and horsepower; prices are similar. We are concerned about the overall height of the John Deere caused by the Tier 3 pollution controls that have been added to the tops of the engines. Contrary, we are intrigued by how relatively small the packaging of the New Holland vineyard tractor is with an overall width of just 48”. We see a lot of opportunities for this tightly packaged New Holland in our brambles and blueberries in addition to our high density orchard blocks. Having never owned a New Holland narrow tractor and I was hoping that some of you might lend some insight into your personal observations. It appears to us that New Holland has put a lot of R & D into their narrow and orchard tractors and that their “Blue Cab” is quite nicely engineered. Again, we would apprecia
Re: [apple-crop] Grading table lighting
Hello, We just installed LED lamp fixtures in our new cider mill. We love the quality of light that it provides our work including our grading. Kind Regards, Kurt W. Alstede General Manager, Alstede Farms, LLC P.O. Box 278 1 Alstede Farms Lane, Chester, New Jersey 07930 United States of America Tel: 908-879-7189 Fax: 908-879-7815 www.alstedefarms.com cid:image001.jpg@01CFB1AF.83320400Picture1 From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Sunrise Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 8:54 AM To: Apple-crop discussion list Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Grading table lighting Charles and Patricia... We at Sunrise invested in 4’ LED lighting recently and can see a benefit in a multitude of ways. Lower operating cost is the obvious publicized benefit but the reduction in area temperature during the summer months has been reported noticeable by employees; only in low celling areas. LEDS offer an increased light dissipation rate meaning a lesser quantity of lights do the same job. We opted to keep the same number of lights due to brackets previously in place thus we are very well lit compared to last season. In addition to LEDs we are using High Bay lighting fixed an estimated 20’ – 22’ above the retail and processing facility. Mc Cormick Electric of Gays Mills Wisconsin 608-624-3318 engineered and installed our enlightening remodel; Bill or Mick is our contact and could explain the job in contractors detail. Best of luck in your endeavor, Ryan Teach From: Charles Davis <mailto:cedarchi...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:33 AM To: Apple-crop discussion list <mailto:apple-crop@virtualorchard.net> Subject: [apple-crop] Grading table lighting We currently use a couple of 4ft fluorescents above the sorting table before bagging. Seems more difficult, as we are getting a little older each year, to distinguish between dark red and brown or black. I was wondering what others were using in their operations? Thank you kind hearted souls. Charles and Patricia _ ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] PYO
Hello Fellow Growers, We have found that drastically changing customer demographics have forced changes upon us that we never could have dreamed of even 10 years ago. I believe that the region of the country that you are in largely dictates the PYO rules that you need to have. 35 years ago we encouraged sampling while you were picking, then we evolved into not encouraging it, now we don’t allow it. We discovered that PYO largely became TYO or EYO (Take Your Own and Eat Your Own). We have responded by creating an admission system and not allowing eating until the crops have been paid for. We enforce the eating rule much as the state police do the speed limit on the interstates…if you are only 10 over no problem. If you are really speeding then we enforce. Indeed we all want to provide an inviting environment for our customers. There are a lot of different ways to accomplish that depending upon where you are located. What works for you where you are located is what is most important. Best wishes for a successful fall PYO season! Farmer Kurt Kurt W. Alstede General Manager, Alstede Farms, LLC P.O. Box 278 1 Alstede Farms Lane, Corner 84 County Route 513 S. (Old Rt. 24) Chester, New Jersey 07930 United States of America Tel: 908-879-7189 Fax: 908-879-7815 www.alstedefarms.com cid:image001.jpg@01CFB1AF.83320400Picture1 From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Evan B. Milburn Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 1:04 PM To: Apple-Crop Subject: [apple-crop] PYO Our operation sets aside 30 acres plus of apples, 21 plus acres of sweet cherries plus blueberries ,raspberries ,table grapes and blackberries. All sold by the pound. Come on guys, we all know darn well EVERYONE is going to eat them while picking Of all our types of sale, retail or wholesale, PYO is easily the most profitable. Are we to hire security guards to stop the eating? That would make for a family fun time in the country. We simply charge a HIGH price (although not as high as some MA or NJ growers) and actually TELL them to eat while picking. They are going to anyway! That makes you and your farm the GOOD guys and still making a huge profit. Evan Milburn www.milburnorchards.com http://www.milburnorchards.com/ ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] (no subject)
Hello Evan, We cook our own caramel from scratch. Learned how to do it from the best.Tanners Orchards out in Illinois. The candy cooking machine that is needed is not cheap.but by far it is the best caramel that we have ever used on our apples..well worth the investment. Give us a call or reach out to Tanner's if you know them. Good luck! Kind Regards, Farmer Kurt Kurt W. Alstede General Manager, Alstede Farms, LLC P.O. Box 278 84 County Route 513 S. (Old Rt. 24) Chester, New Jersey 07930 United States of America Tel: 908-879-7189 Fax: 908-879-7815 www.alstedefarms.com From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Evan B. Milburn Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:40 AM To: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Subject: [apple-crop] (no subject) OKMaries is out of business. Clown gyison? is not out of business. Any one out there have a line on a GREAT caramel dip that is rich dark brown, and does not stick to the plastic bubble? At$ 4.95 I need the BEST!!! Evan Milburn www.milburnorchards.com ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] Stone fruit trunk painting
Gentlemen: Please find below our top secret recipe. We have never had any adverse effects from exterior paint in fact we add the fungicide to help protect the tree against wounds and the thiram acts as a rodent repellent. We use the cheapest white exterior paint that we can find and generally spray it on as a white wash with a handgun from the bottom twelve inches of the scaffold limbs to the ground. Hope that this helps. PEACH TREE PAINT RECIPE. 1 GAL WHITE EXTERIOR LATEX PAINT 2 GAL WATER. ( 1 PART PAINT X 2 PARTS WATER ) ½ POUND OF THIRAM PER GALLON OF WHITEWASH. 2 TABLESPOONS OF TOPSIN-M PER GALLON OF WHITEWASH. MIX WHITEWASH, AND ADD THIRAM AND TOPSIN-M. STIR THOROUGHLY. APPLY TO THE TREES WITH PAINT BRUSHES OR SPRAY GUN 12 TO 18 INCHES AFTER SCAFFOLDS WITH DAYTIME TEMPERATURES ABOVE 50 DEGREES F. Kurt W. Alstede General Manager, Alstede Farms, LLC P.O. Box 278 84 County Route 513 S. (Old Rt. 24) Chester, New Jersey 07930 United States of America Tel: 908-879-7189 Fax: 908-879-7815 www.alstedefarms.com From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Arthur Kelly Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 8:46 AM To: Apple-Crop Subject: [apple-crop] Stone fruit trunk painting Does anyone know the recipe for trunk painting including joint compound? ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
[apple-crop] Farm Production Management Opportunity
Alstede Logo High Resolution OUTSTANDING AGRICULTURAL CAREER OPPORTUNITY FARM PRODUCTION MANAGER Expanding successful retail, PYO, agritourism, and CSA farm in Northern New Jersey seeking self motivated responsible individual for newly created position. Manager to be responsible for all staff, machinery, resources, and aspects of tree fruit, small fruit, vegetable, and ornamental production on 500 acre farm. Applicants should possess a keen interest in agriculture with a minimum Associates Agricultural Degree or at least 5 years practical production experience. Highly competitive salary, medical, paid days off, pension, and on farm housing benefits available. Send resume to Alstede Farms, LLC at i...@alstedefarms.com or fax 908-879-7815. Happy Easter to you All! Should any of our group members be looking for a great opportunity in a very dynamic and successful farm business in the Garden State we would welcome any inquiries or referrals. Feel free to contact us at any time. Best Regards, Kurt W. Alstede General Manager, Alstede Farms, LLC P.O. Box 278 84 County Route 513 S. (Old Rt. 24) Chester, New Jersey 07930 United States of America Tel: 908-879-7189 Fax: 908-879-7815 www.alstedefarms.com image001.gifimage004.jpg___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [apple-crop] Rotten to the Core: What pick-your-own apple orchards tell us about the American economy.
Hugh, Choose the business model that works best for you where you are located and consider your temperament. Not everyone is meant to be a retailer. It takes both savvy and patience..plus plenty of logistical strength. The bottom line is what type of farming enterprise will you enjoy the most and what will provide you the best net income. Retailing and PYO are not for everyone.but they work great for others. Good Luck, Kurt W. Alstede General Manager, Alstede Farms, LLC P.O. Box 278 84 County Route 513 S. (Old Rt. 24) Chester, New Jersey 07930 United States of America Tel: 908-879-7189 Fax: 908-879-7815 www.alstedefarms.com From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Hugh Thomas Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 6:27 AM To: Apple-crop discussion list Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Rotten to the Core: What pick-your-own apple orchards tell us about the American economy. I'm going to reply to this, mainly to see if it works, as I'm new on here. I have a question for anyone with a u-pick orchard. Do the kids do a lot damage to the trees and fruit, making heavy supervision necessary? I just planted a small high density orchard of about an acre and a half. Would a small u-pick operation be worth the hassles? Thanks for any input, Hugh On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Con.Traas con.tr...@ul.ie wrote: Hi Jon and friends, I get the feeling the article or author is a bit mixed up, and does not know exactly what point is the main one. However, there is no doubt that all things American make their way across to this side of the pond sooner or later, and demand for U-pick apples (or Pick Your Own as we call it here) is much greater than ever before, so in that way we are following in your footsteps. Not everyone that comes to pick is a yuppy though, and mostly it is just nice innocent entertainment for families with younger children. Personally I think that if we as growers engage with the children, these people will have happy memories of apples when they grow older, and hopefully better eating habits than they would otherwise have. On the issue of cost, I think it is probably more expensive to organise for people to come and do U-pick than simply to go out with your orchard crew and pick the apples yourself. Con Traas ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
