Re: ASP.Net, ADAM, Membership Providers and Role Providers
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Tony Wright ton...@tpg.com.au wrote: Hi all, I am currently trying to get ASP.Net working with ADAM (which is the lightweight Active Directory for Applications) on a Windows XP SP3 machine. I have configured ASP.Net membership and role providers in the web.config file. I have opened up the ASP.Net web administration tool. I can successfully create a user (using the wizard) and create roles. The roles are turning up in the Authorization Manager, and the users are turning up in ADAM, which I can see using ADSI Edit. But when the administration tool attempts to add a user to a role, it causes an exception. The reason for the exception, I believe, is that there appears to be no way for the user to be identified within the Authorization Manager, so the user can’t actually be added to the role there. I currently can’t go into the Authorization Manager and manually add a user, coming from the membership container, into the role in the AzMan container. I believe that I should be able to add a user from the membership container into the roles in Authorization Manager. Does anyone know how I can bridge this? Sorry to be an idiot and ask the obvious, but can you send the exception? I'll admit, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, but perhaps it has some useful info. Regards, Tony -- silky http://www.programmingbranch.com/
Re: [OT] Bill gates on our energy futures - some tech miracles needed
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:44 PM, David Connors da...@codify.com wrote: I wasn't trying to win an argument. My position remains flexible and nuanced. Mm, I think I need to add this as a disclaimer to the end of all of my emails. -- David Connors (da...@codify.com) Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact -- silky http://www.programmingbranch.com/
Re: [OT] Multiple questions in an email
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:41 AM, David Richards ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com wrote: Greetings all, Has anyone else noticed people often don't answer more than one question in an email? In fact, I'll generalise that and say people often don't read an entire email. I had this today (already) but this happens to me all the time (it's probably more like 25% of the time but I think the exaggeration is justified). I don't notice this really, but I tend to put all items people need to respond to in a list: - like so, - and thus - etc Which generally gets the appropriate result. But I do think if the question was phrased how you've shown below, I may accidentally ignore 'C' while answering 'A'. Maybe. This is particularly annoying when the main question isn't the first one (such as today's incident). eg, Please tell me A and B but I really want to know about C will usually just get me the answer to A. I don't want to have to twitterize my emails into single sentences of a few small words. Sometimes, when (professional) emails I send get too long, I'll write a little Summary area at the bottom. It works well, because bored people just read the summary, and then decide if the entire thing is of interest. I wonder how many people on this list didn't get past the first sentence :) David If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate! -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama -- silky http://www.programmingbranch.com/
Re: Intresting Stuff in (.net) world? [OT-TGIF]
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Arjang Assadi arjang.ass...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I remember a post on this forum about framework for ditributed stuff ( aka intresting stuff ). Distributed how? You mean Parallel Linq? And other such things? http://blogs.msdn.com/pfxteam/ Or do you mean from a DB point of view? Like CouchDB or have you read about Hadoop? And friends? Any new/non-run of the mill projects/framework anyone has found intresting lately? (Not neccerilyly .net) The most interesting one I've found recently would be Gendarme. Aside from that, I don't know. I'd say dashy, but that needs a new release before I really feel comfortable with it. Regards -- silky http://www.programmingbranch.com/
Re: unit testing in visual studio
Well, I believe you can read the current random port that it wants to use from the config (so if you desired, you could do that). However, you should be able to simply change the project properties so that instead of using the inbuilt asp.net webservice, it uses your local IIS one. Infact, you can just set the port in the same properties area (right click the web project, select Properties go to the Web tab). On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Geoff Appleby geoff.appl...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a weird situation going on. Hopefully someone knows which (probably simple) button to click to do to get it working the way i want it. I've got a largish solution full of different projects. also part of the solution is a set of testing projects. one of the projects in the solution is a web service (simple boring web service, not wcf or anything). the web service project is set to, when debugging etc, use the asp net file system based development web server, and is set to always start listening on the same port (say, ). and that works fine and when just running in the debugger everything is good and the web service gets called on port . When i run unit tests, however, it somehow knows there's a web service involved - and it starts the web service, but starts it on a random port. All well and good, except that all my code that in the other projects that call the web wervice pull the url to use from the app.config file that specifies the port of . End result - all the calls to the web service fail because its been started on some other port. Interestingly, i've noticed two strange behaviours: 1) if i manually start a new debugging instance of the web service, it will start on . If i leave it running and then start the unit tests, it ALSO starts teh web service on a random port, but the tests i have that call code that invokes web service succeed because it can connect on . 2) one of my tests, so far, test a function that lives INSIDE the web service and relies on a the HttpContext object. Iv'e decorated this unit test saying HostType(ASP.NET), AspNetDevelopmentServerHost(file system path to the web service) and UrlToTest(http://localhost:/WebForm1.aspx;) ... and it happily runs the test inside the file system web server...on the RANDOM port, not port - which means the test always succeeds, regardless of point 1) above. I've read up on the webtesthelper.redirecturl (or words to that effect) helper class, but that's no good because it works on a web service reference object - and in my case the web service reference object is buried deep within a class library - my test is calling a public method on the class library that internally instantiates teh web service object and invokes it, all based on config file values. so in short - anyone know how to stop the test engine starting the web service on a random port, but to start it on a fixed port instead? -- Geoff Appleby Blog: http://blogs.crankygoblin.com/blogs/geoff.appleby/ -- silky http://www.programmingbranch.com/
Re: Business Rules , what are the Tools/Methodologies to categorise/Implement them in .net?
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Greg Harris harris.gre...@gmail.com wrote: Silky, I have to disagree with you... Be my guest. C#/VB is not the cure to all problems; there are other languages out there! I never said otherwise. I have not used a business rules language as such, but I can see real value in a language where you can show an end user the source code of a set of business rules like... TotalClaims = Sum ( ClaimItems ) If TotalClaims ClaimLimit Then ClaimLimitExceeded You really show your end users/clients, code? Instead of outlining all of what has been tested (i.e. scenarios)? I don't think showing real people code like the above is particularly useful (or even good). [...] If the business rules code can be read and understood by a client user and compiled into executable code by a business rules engine, then I see real value for it. You say... you need to: 1. Understand them 2. Know how to program them 3. Test them I would say that you need to: 1. Review the rules 2. Document the rules 3. Understand the rules 4. Program the rules in a machine executable format 5. Test the rules Your 12 are effectively my 1-4. All of the steps would greatly helped or effectively eliminated by having some form of rules engine. I disagree. I think you've just moved your code into a new language. So you can program in a new language, so what. Do it or don't do it, what do I care. It's just a different language. Present your information to clients/managers however is best for them. If they understand the statements of a basic programming language, good. Probably, they don't, because it may be hard to convey edge cases, or context, or they will assume various things that aren't true. Whatever works, really. I took issue with the idea there is some magical modelling process you can do to make your code suddenly correct. The process is called programming and it can take place in whatever language is appropriate. Maybe two languages, if it's relevant (one to generate an implementation in other). This is fine, if it works. I don't have any strong opinions about it. So, I see real value in the question “what are the Tools/Methodologies to categorise/Implement business rules in .net?” Interesting to note that a quick search of Google gives 24M results for the search “dot net business rules engine”. I've never based my opinion on what the majority of people do, or even what some sort of subset of people do; I base it only on what I think via the opinions formed from experience and research. Wrong or right, it's the way I operate. So I really don't care that there may be demand for it. Regards Greg Harris -- silky http://www.programmingbranch.com/
Re: [OT] Multiple questions in an email
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Jonathan Parker jonathanparkerem...@gmail.com wrote: What is needed is a replacement of email. A format that allows editing and versioning built into the email client. Then you can say. Ahh. Jim changed this line of the email on this date and then Jane changed it again a week later. It will save millions of dollars in bandwidth costs too. To a significant degree I think there is no replacement for people having to learn how to communicate. It's not that hard. -- silky http://www.programmingbranch.com/
Re: Business Rules , what are the Tools/Methodologies to categorise/Implement them in .net?
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Arjang Assadi arjang.ass...@gmail.com wrote: I wish I could agree with that, but how does what we as software engineers do differs from the building or bridge engineers, surely they don't build bridges or building on what they perceive to be the right way. Surely there must be some sort of canonical form to implementation, otherwise we are not software makers and just duct taping hodge podge together. Every (software) system will gravitate towards maximum entropy and minimum order and the programmer's job is to stablised it by imposing order and decreasing the entropy. Having a structure for defining how a system should be implemented would reduce the number of possible permutation and hence decrease the entropy. I believe a systematic approach to defining and implementation is necessary other wise we are just adding to total sum of junk in the world. Careful, if there is a systematic way to doing such things, you will soon find yourself replaced with a system :P Regards Arjang -- silky http://www.programmingbranch.com/
Re: unit testing in visual studio
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Geoff Appleby geoff.appl...@gmail.com wrote: But you're pretty fool. ... So, what system are you using to run the unit tests though? Test Driven.NET? I'm now slightly intrigued as to why it's randomly changing the port on you. -- silky http://www.programmingbranch.com/
Re: unit testing in visual studio
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Geoff Appleby geoff.appl...@gmail.com wrote: Just the built in test projects that are part of 2008 team developer. ohhh, I see. Well, I've never used that. Have you looked at things like this? http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms404693(VS.80).aspx -- silky http://www.programmingbranch.com/
Re: Connors makes Slashdot : The Rick Roll
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au wrote: silky wrote: Poor guys were probably just trying to download some _interesting_ presentations ... Lets analyse the data and see who's presentation coincides with the most bit-torrenting ... I was also trolling reddit a while back, and there was a photo thread... was clicking on them, and who should pop up about 15 pics down!? I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA. *backs away from the internet* :) -- Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au -- silky (looking for part-time/contract work; .net programmer for 8 years; contact me if interested) http://www.mirios.com.au/ http://island.mirios.com.au/t/rigby+random+20
Re: Connors makes Slashdot : The Rick Roll
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 9:00 PM, David Connors da...@codify.com wrote: Can we talk about VB.NET vs C#, politics, religion and global warming now? I have a TE meeting all day tomorrow. My timing is impeccable. I can't believe you guys refuse to accept that the Internet Filtering project is all part of the government plan to cover up the global warming threat. It's all so obvious. -- silky (looking for part-time/contract work; .net programmer for 8 years; contact me if interested) http://www.mirios.com.au/ http://island.mirios.com.au/t/rigby+random+20
Re: Connors makes Slashdot : The Rick Roll
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au wrote: David Connors wrote: Can we talk about VB.NET http://VB.NET vs C#, politics, religion and global warming now? VB/C# and global warming *are* both somewhat religion and politics... but anyway, here goes something: VB.NET is an inefficient language consuming greater CPU power resulting in higher carbon emissions, but backed by the right wing as it's corporatist agenda enjoys the greater energy profits while the religious agenda dislikes C# due to references in Leviticus which equate it with the devils work. Rebuttal? The government refused to fund monkeynet with the 4bn for the NBN; thus we have the problem. Monkeynet does not cause global warming; it causes global bananas. -- Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au -- silky (looking for part-time/contract work; .net programmer for 8 years; contact me if interested) http://www.mirios.com.au/ http://island.mirios.com.au/t/rigby+random+20
Re: F11 via Javascript
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: Yeah, I've seen lots of posts like this where it opens a new window in full screen. (Not tested if that works or not) but I need to toggle the current browser window (preferably as if the user pressed F11). I'll be calling the Javascript from a Silverlight app via HTML Bridge. I don't think what I want is possible for security reasons. One of the posters on Jonathan's link says that it's specifically disabled, under firefox, unless you have the right permissions. Without researching, I'd generally consider it not possible as well (and also in poor taste, as, at least I, never want an existing window deciding what is best for me, but it may not be relevant if it's for an internal app, etc). -- silky http://www.mirios.com.au/ http://island.mirios.com.au/t/rigby+random+20 liquid venture = earache! Lesser abbreviation conspectus pinyon strengthener? Broody TAPIR? S...
Re: [OT] Facebook data mining
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:42 AM, David Connors da...@codify.com wrote: On 15 February 2010 11:33, silky michaelsli...@gmail.com wrote: I actually do think you can somehow permanently delete it; mine is currently deactivated. My understanding is that you have to delete all of your user content yourself. Manually. Seriously. That is every photo, comment made on a photo, status update, message sent/received. *Only then* can you contact facebook and ask them to delete your account (as opposed to deactivate it). That is not going to be tedious at all. Yeah, I haven't actually gone that far, and I certainly wouldn't go around re-activating the account just to delete everything. It can have what is has on me; it's not much, and it's from several years ago. I realised ages ago that Facebook was just a massive waste of time for me, I still haven't quite made that realisation about email yet :P
OT - wondering; c# direction
I wonder if I am alone, out here, in thinking that C# is (possibly) going in a strange and bad direction. We can notice that it is tending to more of a dynamic/scripting-like language, with less compile-time checks (or worded another way, more freedom) with features that you could argue are generally harmful, and only sometimes useful (Extension Methods being the primary example, anonymous classes being another). I just wonder if anyone else is legitimately concerned by this? Or is mostly the feeling that it's about time the language got some cool features and damn the people that use them irresponsibly! Not all the features are bad, to be sure, and mostly I'm just interested in thoughts (I have no real strong feelings on the matter, despite how it may seem); but it seems to me that we should go down the Spec# world of further restrictions to prevent various things even *becoming* code. Is the general thing that programmers care about now flexibility, as opposed to correctness? Or is it both? Are they exclusive? I don't think so. Anyway, this is probably too much off topic rambling to even warrant and OT tag; I just can't help but wonder if anyone else is legitimately concerned that it will lead to less maintainable systems in general. It seems (to me, just an outsider) that not much thought is given, specifically, to how the features could be used badly; only to how they could be used ideally (and we all know that few, if any, programmers are consistently programming ideally). Probably I should do a significant amount of work in 4.0 before commenting further. -- silky http://www.mirios.com.au/ http://island.mirios.com.au/t/rigby+random+20
Re: OT - wondering; c# direction
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Jonathan Parker jonathanparkerem...@gmail.com wrote: Ahem it's a podcast not a video. I listen to podcasts while doing other boring yet necessary things such as driving or exercise. Oh. Man. I may as well give up now. I'm an old man not even familiar with technology terms anymore. That's disturbing. -- silky http://www.mirios.com.au/ http://island.mirios.com.au/t/rigby+random+20 GINGHAM AERODYNAMICALLY likewise: neutralize graphology. Pivotal TRIG: endow...
Re: Environment.GetFolderPath(Environment.SpecialFolder.ProgramFiles)Issue?
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Anthony asale...@tpg.com.au wrote: Writing to a config file and sql compact database..so where should i place data for all users? Environment.SpecialFolder.CommonApplicationData -- silky http://www.mirios.com.au/ http://island.mirios.com.au/t/rigby+random+20 deliriousness apologize? Database: zeppelin-counterpoise.
Re: [OT] Versioning
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Bec Carter bec.usern...@gmail.com wrote: TGIF! What assembly versioning convention do people here follow? I assume theres a Microsoft standard that I havent found yet. I'm yet to get fully into this (but I'm getting close). What I've implemented at home (on dashy) is major.minor.build.revision So the download file generated is in the form of: filename-0.0.463.1263.zip Thus it hasn't made it to a first version yet, but has had quite a few builds and significant commits against the repo. Of course, it's all auto-generated (which is the point, and awesome, and fun). CruiseControl.NET can easily push through the build number, and I assume Hudson can as well (I'm moving to that at for my CI server now), but it should go without saying that this structure will imply a significantly different build number if you switch build servers mid-project (i.e. you may need to set a 'base' build number once, after doing the switch, just to make sure it all matches up). That said, with this version I haven't put it to the test of using it for any decision-making in-code. But nevertheless, it's what I use, and I quite like it. Cheers Bec -- silky http://www.mirios.com.au/ http://island.mirios.com.au/t/rigby+random+20 paean-KLEPTOMANIAC mousiness heckle.
