Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.x on Raspberry PI?
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 12:08 PM wrote: > > Would be good to understand if the issues with crashing 4B are due to: I think the 8Gb pi is a slightly different design anyway, and you'll also want the 64 bit OS version, and maybe the new Ubuntu so I doubt if any earlier experiences will be that helpful. One thing to consider, though, is that the tiny CPU fans that some of the kits provide are remarkably noisy. I ended up swapping with a fanless Flirc case but you might want to check some reviews or youtube demonstrations before picking anything. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/
Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.x on Raspberry PI?
Guillermo Rozas wrote at about 13:31:58 -0300 on Monday, January 4, 2021: > On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 1:39 PM wrote: > > > I am considering either: > > 1. (old) Pi 3 - Quad core ARM Cortex-A53, 1.2GHz. > > 1GB memory (with 256MB used for video) > > USB 2.0 > > > > 2. (new) Pi 4 - Quad core Cortex-A72 (ARM v8) 64-bit SoC @ 1.5GHz > > 8GB memory > > USB 3.0 > > > > One point you would want to take into account: the Pi3 LAN connectivity is > through the USB2 interface, and the bandwidth is shared with it. Between > the independent Gigabit LAN on the Pi4 and the USB3 drive connection, the > latter should be much faster for data transfer and file checksum. That's > the main reason I moved from a Pi2 to a Banana Pi Pro (gigabit, SATA drive). Interesting... how does Banana Pi Pro compare to Pi4? e.g., performance, interfaces/ports, price, support... How compatible (if at all) is it with Raspberry Pi? How strong is the user community? Basically, I am looking for a low power, (relatively) cheap, (relatively) high performance plug-type computer to run things like mythfrontend, backuppc, or any other projects that I have that require less than a full PC and more than an Arduino :) Also, want to make sure it has good support so that the platform will be around for a while and I don't have to start again if it gets abandoned. > How does 4.x compare with 3.x in terms of CPU and memory usage? Not sure... though later versions of general rsync are, I think more efficient memory-wise... if memory serves me correctly :) > > > > In terms of CPU the 4.x should be lighter, as the full backups do not > checksum the files in the server anymore (in the default configuration). > > Best regards, > Guillermo > ___ > BackupPC-users mailing list > BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net > List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki > Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/
Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.x on Raspberry PI?
Robert E. Wooden wrote at about 10:02:58 -0600 on Monday, January 4, 2021: > On 1/4/2021 9:55 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 9:32 AM G.W. Haywood via BackupPC-users > > wrote: > >> I've tried using a 4B and gave up with it - unreliable. That was the > >> one reservation. I think I've posted about my experience on the list, > >> check the archives. > > Maybe you just have a bad one or it is overheating in its case or > > something. I've left a 4B powered up for months without crashing. > > Mine doesn't have a load like backuppc - just occasionally playing > > videos with Kodi or Plex, but it doesn't crash. The only serious quirk > > I've seen is that having the HDMI port active interferes with wifi - > > but you'd want to use ethernet for backups anyway. > > > I'm going to add here that I have seen a few posts (elsewhere) that some > 4B w/8Gb RAM had crash issues and a 4B 4Gb running the same program runs > fine. Wondering what model 4B the OP is using? (2Gb, 4Gb, or 8Gb?) > Well I was considering buying a 4B 8GB mounted in my router "cabinet" to do the following 3 things: 1. Backuppc server (secondary to my primary one running on my home x86 server) 2. Using NUT, monitor the UPS powering the switches/routers/VOIP devices in my router cabinet 3. Potentially also serve as an occasional mythtv frontend for a basement TV used during exercise Would be good to understand if the issues with crashing 4B are due to: 1. One-off faulty device 2. General hardware design issue 3. General OS/software issue 4. "Overload" of some type 5. Weird other interaction among HW/OS/apps etc ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Samba 4.13.3 Breaks BackupPC SMB Backups
On 12/20/20 3:24 PM, Tim Evans wrote: It appears stdout from smbclient in tar mode has changed in Samba 4.13.3; long-running SMB backups are failing, I think at the very end. tarExtract: Unexpected end of tar archive (tot = 10993, num = 10240, errno = , posn = ) tarExtract: Removing partial file $Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-1479735809-3582899389-406748754-1003/$RYTAKUR.eml [ skipped 60 lines ] tarExtract: BackupPC_tarExtact aborting (Unexpected end of tar archive) tarExtract: Done: 1 errors, 47 filesExist, 139478798 sizeExist, 137948090 sizeExistComp, 47 filesTotal, 139478798 sizeTotal, 0 filesNew, 0 sizeNew, 0 sizeNewComp, 10555998 inodeLast BackupPC_tarExtract exited with fail status 256 Xfer PIDs are now Got fatal error during xfer (BackupPC_tarExtract exited with fail status 256) Backup aborted (BackupPC_tarExtract exited with fail status 256) As everyone seems to be back from their long winter's nap, I thought I'd re-raise this one. There were no responses previously. Haven't had a successful backup since mid-November, when the previous version of smbclient started segfaulting; this version runs for many hours, but craps out at the apparent end of the backup. -- Tim Evans | 5 Chestnut Court | Owings Mills, MD 21117 | 443-394-3864 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/
Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.x on Raspberry PI?
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 1:39 PM wrote: > I am considering either: > 1. (old) Pi 3 - Quad core ARM Cortex-A53, 1.2GHz. > 1GB memory (with 256MB used for video) > USB 2.0 > > 2. (new) Pi 4 - Quad core Cortex-A72 (ARM v8) 64-bit SoC @ 1.5GHz > 8GB memory > USB 3.0 > One point you would want to take into account: the Pi3 LAN connectivity is through the USB2 interface, and the bandwidth is shared with it. Between the independent Gigabit LAN on the Pi4 and the USB3 drive connection, the latter should be much faster for data transfer and file checksum. That's the main reason I moved from a Pi2 to a Banana Pi Pro (gigabit, SATA drive). How does 4.x compare with 3.x in terms of CPU and memory usage? > In terms of CPU the 4.x should be lighter, as the full backups do not checksum the files in the server anymore (in the default configuration). Best regards, Guillermo ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/
Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.x on Raspberry PI?
On 1/4/2021 9:55 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 9:32 AM G.W. Haywood via BackupPC-users wrote: I've tried using a 4B and gave up with it - unreliable. That was the one reservation. I think I've posted about my experience on the list, check the archives. Maybe you just have a bad one or it is overheating in its case or something. I've left a 4B powered up for months without crashing. Mine doesn't have a load like backuppc - just occasionally playing videos with Kodi or Plex, but it doesn't crash. The only serious quirk I've seen is that having the HDMI port active interferes with wifi - but you'd want to use ethernet for backups anyway. I'm going to add here that I have seen a few posts (elsewhere) that some 4B w/8Gb RAM had crash issues and a 4B 4Gb running the same program runs fine. Wondering what model 4B the OP is using? (2Gb, 4Gb, or 8Gb?) -- Bob Wooden ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/
Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.x on Raspberry PI?
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 9:32 AM G.W. Haywood via BackupPC-users wrote: > > I've tried using a 4B and gave up with it - unreliable. That was the > one reservation. I think I've posted about my experience on the list, > check the archives. Maybe you just have a bad one or it is overheating in its case or something. I've left a 4B powered up for months without crashing. Mine doesn't have a load like backuppc - just occasionally playing videos with Kodi or Plex, but it doesn't crash. The only serious quirk I've seen is that having the HDMI port active interferes with wifi - but you'd want to use ethernet for backups anyway. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/
Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.x on Raspberry PI?
Hi there, On Mon, 4 Jan 2021, backuppc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Has anybody had good success running BackupPC 4.x on a Raspberry PI? Yes, I have. Very good, with one reservation. I am considering either: 1. (old) Pi 3 - Quad core ARM Cortex-A53, 1.2GHz. 2. (new) Pi 4 - Quad core Cortex-A72 (ARM v8) 64-bit SoC @ 1.5GHz I've tried using a 4B and gave up with it - unreliable. That was the one reservation. I think I've posted about my experience on the list, check the archives. The 3B+ is fine. Installed from source, fiddled about a bit, and it's been running for well over a year as the main backup for about a dozen hosts. I don't worry about the performance, it runs when I'm asleep so I haven't spent any time on measurements. I do run Nagios/Icinga and it doesn't show any memory or CPU problems. Nagios/Icinga runs on a 4B as it happens, it's a bit heavy for the 3B+ and it doesn't really matter if it crashes now and again. And it does. Typically there's no more than 1 core used for 10 minutes and there's at least 250 MBytes free RAM at the time the backups run. Total about 1.5 million files backed up in 16,500 directories, about 12TB. Around 580GB right now in the pool filesystem after pooling and compression. This is all using a USB connected 3TB Western Digital USB drive in its own little plastic box off the shelf from some computer store. I did tweak it so it doesn't spin down and park the heads every 8 seconds or whatever stupid number it was. How does 4.x compare with 3.x in terms of CPU and memory usage? I can't comment on that for the Pi, as I've only ever seriously run version 4.x on it. Please let me know if you'd like any more detailed information, I can easily run some instrumentation for a few days/weeks. -- 73, Ged. ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki Project: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/
