RE: Frontline
Rhona, I've been using Frontline TopSpot for years now, it's the best tick product that I've ever found. Maybe it's only designed for American ticks? It's not a repellant, but it is supposed to kill the vermin within 18 hours of their getting onto the dog. I've always found it to be very effective. Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA
vacuum for wood floors...lindhaus F5?
Does anybody have the Lindhaus F5 vacuum.? It is a small upright made for bare floors. I am looking for something, other than a cannister vac to get the doggy fur off the wood floor in 2 rooms of my home. Any other suggestions would be appreciated as well. Thanks guys, Deanna
Re: Searching for the Bernerproof Trashcan
I keep all 'edible trash' in the freezer until my weekly trash pick-up day arrives. :-) Gail Miller Cynosure Bernese in Arkansas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ticks and other nasties was Your Breeder - Your Friend
Hi Michaela, I think I may have just been lucky but I recall the time at the US Nationals at Rhode Island where it seemed a lot of people were picking ticks off their dogs. I had bathed my dogs prior to travelling with Kennel Flea and Louse Shampoo and while I always rinse thoroughly some residual effect may have been at play because my friend's nimble fingers (she's a seasoned tick hunter) never found one:-) I have since changed shampoos because it has been some years since my kitties went to heaven and they were my greatest flea hosts. I now use Miracle Coat that has tea tree oil in it and I have used body wash with tea tree oil for myself in blackfly season and have found less trouble with these nasty biting bugs so figured it was acting as a repellent in the dog shampoo too. Worth a try if you have it in England:-) Rose T.
RE: litter size line breeding
Hi Michaela, Wasn't me! I know of dogs that have been close bred and prolific, a lot has to do with the tendency within the lines that are being concentrated. It is generally thought that to continue to inbreed will affect fertility. Rose T.
RE: fabric or leather?
Hi Liz, Welcome to the world of mini-vans:-) I love my van and my dogs ride comfortably in it, I have a Chrysler Dodge Sport which is the longer version and two large crates fit in well, of course I've taken out the non-essential seats in the back. It has split air conditioning which is nice for long journeys and we have fabric seats which grant you get a bit hairy. I think leather is nice but you will probably find they scratch, besides as you get more Berners you'll likely take out the back seats! You can always go the whole hog and have seat covers and dangling dice:-) Mini vans are like Berners once you've had one you wonder how you managed before:-) Don't forget to tint the windows:-) Rose T.
Tick - Innotek Electronic Tick Repeller
Innotek Electronic Flea and Tick Repeller http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=12pCatId=1256 From Drs. Foster and Smith (and other vendors I'm sure), these Innotek Electronic Fela and Tick Repellers are worth a try if your dogs wear collars. I ordered them last year but because I have a major fear of having collars on my dogs, I ended up putting them on my boots and I got minimal ticks last year. I am a TICK MAGNET. Gail Miller Cynosure Bernese in Arkansas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fabric vs Leather
I only have fabric seats but I do have friends with Newfs with leather in their suburban of course the dogs tend to ride in their crates so no issue of slipping on the seats G the leather does clean up nicely and the Hubacek's have leather couch which all their big guys lie on and I have never seen them cause scratches or tears Dana loves the way the leather wipes off easily from the droolies G Pat T. Texas
Re: Frontline
Pat, Correct me if I'm wrong, but the tick has to bite the dog in order to die. Also, the tick must be removed within 24 hours or can impart whatever it is infected with --??? Am I right? I use Frontline Plus but will be using Frontline (without the Plus) since it showed no added benefits. I do not put it on once a month. The ticks I pull off are either dead or sluggish. When they are a tad livelier, I reapply Frontline so I'm putting it on about every 6-8 weeks, not 4 weeks. Right now I have about 25% snow which will probably disappear today. Everything is thick and muddy and oozy. I am anticipating a difficult tick/flea/mosquito filled Spring. Sigh. No one has mentioned a spray deterrent. They don't work?? Maria Crifasi Home of Daisy and The Budman Catoctin Mountains, Maryland - Original Message - From: Pat Long Paul Dangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 5:39 AM Subject: RE: Frontline Rhona, I've been using Frontline TopSpot for years now, it's the best tick product that I've ever found. Maybe it's only designed for American ticks? It's not a repellant, but it is supposed to kill the vermin within 18 hours of their getting onto the dog. I've always found it to be very effective. Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA
Re: fabric or leather?
At 12:01 AM 18/03/2003 -0600, you wrote: Hi All, I'm about to buy a new vehicle for my dogs since they don't all fit in the current one. I'm actually forcing myself to buy something I really dislike (a mini van) and is totally out of my personality. Oh, I know! I vowed that I would never ever buy a minivan. Ysterday, I caught myself looking through the specs for minivans on the msn site. Now number 3 dog's here, the current car is getting a bit of a tight squeeze. It's a slippery slope ;-) Anyway, if I could afford it I'd definitely go for leather. The car we had previously (a Renault Laguna Station wagon we weren't allowed to import into Canada) had leather seats They were brilliant! I'd have them again, no doubt about it. The velour seats we have at the moment aren't bad but I prefer the leather any day. Hmmm, perhaps I just have expensive tastes ;-) Wendy Boris Beard Ottawa, Canada http://members.rogers.com/bernerboris/bernerbooks.html
Re: Frontline
Maria, Unlike most of the topical solutions, Frontline's TopSpot does not need the tick or flea to bite in order to die. The Fipronil is stored under the skin and in the oil glands - it is NOT systemic for the dog. Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Frontline
I was looking into a product called Biospot that I saw in the Drs Foster and Smith catalogue. It's supposed to kill fleas, ticks AND mosquitos. Well, maybe they mean repellent in the case of the mosquitos. Has anyone used this to any effect ?? It's also a LOT more affordable than Frontline. I always use Frontline , and haven't seen a flea in years. On the tick side of things , I've been lucky with the dogs. Lyme is a BIG concern in my area. I've had it and wouldn't wish it on a dog :-(. Any opinions on this brand , Biospot ???Thanks !! Laurie Montoya S. Central PA. Maria, Unlike most of the topical solutions, Frontline's TopSpot does not need the tick or flea to bite in order to die. The Fipronil is stored under the skin and in the oil glands - it is NOT systemic for the dog. Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA
BMD Breeders in Eastern PA
Hello, First let me appologize if I am doing this incorrectly, this is my first attempt to send a message to the list. I signed up a week or 2 ago and have been reading messages. My wife and I have decided after alot of research into the BMD breed that it is the right breed for us. We live in eastern PA with a 12 year old daughter. We have read information from the bmdca site as well as purchasing books on the breed from our local bookstore. Where do we go from here? We found information from one breeder that sounded good, however we sent them an e-mail as was requested and have not heard anything since. My question to you fine folks, can anyone suggest a reputable breeder(s) in the eastern PA area? We are about an hour outside of Philadelphia near Allentown, PA. Thank you in advance for any assistance. Regards, Andrew Taylor
Re: Frontline
Laurie, The active ingredients in BioSpot is: 45% Permethrin 5% Pyriproxyfen The down side to the permethrins that I've found by doing a quick scan are: it is toxic to cats in the quantity needed to be effective on dogs it is not waterproof and will wash off it has been in use for 20 years and many fleas are now resistant I believe the pyriproxyfen is an insect growth regulator? Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: funny story
They both had the biggest doggy grins on their faces and looked so happy. Great story, Beth! I laughed out loud right here at work! Thanks for sharing - happy dogs always warm my heart.. Ellen Lauber Harper -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 1:01 AM To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List Subject: BERNER-L digest 4327 BERNER-L Digest 4327 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Flooring for Santa's new kennel by Michaela Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Re: Ticks and other nasties was Your Breeder - Your Friend by Michaela Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) litter size line breeding by Michaela Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Re: Proposed AKC fee increase by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) Re: sleeping position by Michaela Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) RE: Eating wood by Rose Tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) Russian Frenchies by Rose Tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) RE: eating wood by Terri Taylor-Mikes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Re: litter size line breeding by Pat Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Remembering Caspian by Kim Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) fabric or leather? by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) Re: fabric or leather? by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) scrubs by Andrea Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) Re: litter size line breeding by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) Re: Ticks and other nasties was Your Breeder - Your Friend by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cecilia_St=E5hl?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Ang: Re: Ticks and other nasties was Your Breeder - Your Friend by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Re: litter size line breeding by Jeff Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Digest 4102 by swjp [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Website needs club/breeder presence. by Jeff Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) re: Website needs club/breeder presence. by Jeff Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) RE: Flooring for Santa's new kennel by Molly Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) Hugo thanks you by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) A very funny website by LEKesner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) Inquiring Minds Want to Know by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25) Re: Ticks and other nasties was Your Breeder - Your Friend by Michaela Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26) Maggie's mast cell tumors by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27) Hope Update by Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28) Goodnight Deuce by bmd4me [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29) All use of the Program is governed by the terms by aakw [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30) RE: fabric or leather? by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31) Happy/Funny stories by beth oberle [EMAIL PROTECTED] 32) Searching for the Bernerproof Trashcan by barb wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 33) Re: Ticks and my luck with garlic by Gail Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sensitive ear flaps!
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Re: fabric or leather?
You can always go the whole hog and have seat covers and dangling dice:-) Ahhh, that would be me Ruth! Seat covers, dangling fuzzy dice AND my high school graduation tassel from 1968. G. My first dog mobile had leather seats-the driver seat wore out completely in 5 years. My current one has cloth, with seat covers. I like the covers because the one on the dogs seat can be easily removed if a HUMAN has to sit on it. Cabela's, or other sporting goods catalogs have seat covers for dogs. I was thinking of getting leather on my next car-I was told the leather they use now is stronger than what was used previously, but that was from a car salesman. I think the maintenance on the leather is easier. I worry more about the spilled coffee than the dog drool. Janice Parky Cape Cod, MA
Re: BMD Breeders in Eastern PA
We found information from one breeder that sounded good, however we sent them an e-mail as was requested and have not heard anything since. My question to you fine folks, can anyone suggest a reputable breeder(s) in the eastern PA area? We are about an hour outside of Philadelphia near Allentown, PA. Thank you in advance for any assistance. Andrew, There's nothing like personal references for breeders, particularly references from folks who had problems with their dog and received support from their breeders. Using the Berner-l with discretion for references is a good idea. Here's a story you might find interesting. A woman bought a dog from me several years ago and let me two and a half years later she wanted another. I told her I would not have pups available until later in the year. She came across a woman with a BMD pup in her community who was happy with her puppy. She contacted the breeder of that puppy and bought one. She was having some trouble with her first Berner and depression when the new pup entered the picture so she contacted me. Turns out she bought her second Berner from one of the most notorious puppy producers in her region of the country, a breeder about whom a number of reports of non-support including not supplying registration papers, have been reported to the BMDCA. So please be careful. In my experience, personal recommendations from someone I don't know whose research skills I don't know, are most valuable when they come from folks who had trouble with their dog and received support from their dog's breeder. In short while, the BMDCA will have available a Breed Stewards List which will include folks in our club who are breeders and/or owners who volunteer to help educate the public about the breed and availabilty of their pups. At this time however the list is not yet available and we encourage inquirers to network through regional BMD clubs to find breeders in their area of the country. Please recognize conscientious breeders are scarce in some parts of the country and it may be necessary, due to demand, to travel away from home several hundred miles to find the right dog for you. To contact the BMD clubs in your region of the country, find links and contacts for them at www.bmdca.org in the InfoSeries link within the article titled Clubs Resources and More. Memberships of each regional BMD club include conscientious breeders through whom you can network to locate pups which will be available in the next six months typically. Plan to send inquiries to a dozen breeders in order to find one or two who meet your own criteria of conscientiousness and availability within the timeframe you wish to work. There's more information to help inquirers identify conscientious breeders in the article titled Tips on Buying a Berner which is also found in the Info Series at the BMDCA.org website. Most inquirers want a list of reputable breeders, thinking they will have a better chance of getting a good quality dog from someone approved or licensed. While that might be true, in reality, dog clubs cannot police their memberships per se. So it's quite possible a breeder we think is reputable, actually is not. We won't find that out for some time. Meanwhile the buyers who placed trust in the less than reputable breeder's false reputation are mislead. It's preferable for inquirers to be provided with names of persons who breed who are members of clubs AND to be provided with a means to know and identify those things that distinguish conscientious breeders from others. I hope you'll find we've addressed these issues in the materials to which inquirers are directed at our website. Good luck in your search for the right dog for you! Ruth Reynolds public education co-chair, BMDCA
RE: litter size line breeding
At the beginning of the month, I attended the W Penn Symposium on Genetics (Small Animal Medical Genetics for the Veterinarian and Breeder-- N.Mathew Ellinwood, DVM, Ph.D.,Comparative Medical Genetics at U Penn) and Breeding (Demystifying Canine Ovulation Timing - Melissa Goodman, DVM, Board Certified in Theriogenology). Much of what Pat Long has said regarding health of the offspring in in-line breeding was supported by the geneticist Ellinwood. Like Pat, he did not mention litter size, but did mention other health-related problems that are exacerbated with in-line breeding. What was also interesting was Goodman's comment that canines are rarely infertile, rather the problem is generally an error in accurately predicting the fertile period for the bitch. Nancy Melone Mars, PA
Fencing
Hi Everybody, I've heard some of you talk about buying new vehicles to transport your beloved BMD's. Well, after the discussion of the IF I just wanted to let you know what my husband and I decided. We'll move (is there no thinking rationally when you want a BMD)! We were kind of thinking about it anyway so this just pushed us in the right direction. We have put a deposit down on a lot and spoke with a builder yesterday. This new neighborhood will allow us to have a fenced yard! I feel better already! Now if I can just get thru the building process I'll be OK. Thank your Berners for us and give them BIG hugs, Susan Susan
GMC/Chrevolet Warning!!! Hazardous to Dogs!!!
Hi All, I have a GMC Safari (it's Chevrolet equivalent is the Astro), which has rear door problem, which is dangerous to dogs. If the automatic (electronic) control is not working (due to some problem, like a fuse blowing out or other damage to the electrical system), there is no manual way to open the rear doors! Those of us dog people who have these vehicles, got them so that we could take advantage of those rear doors, by facing our crates to the rear and having our dogs enter and exit from the rear. If the doors are not operable, then we have no way of getting the dogs out in (or out) an emergency. If the automatic system blows out, we are faced with having to turn the crates around, with dogs averaging 90-110 lb INSIDE these crates, in order to get our dogs out. We have had to do this, now, three times (!), when the electrical/automatic system failed for various reasons. Fortunately, none of these three times was in an emergency, when time was of essence. My GMC Safari is at the dealer service shop right now having its eletrical system worked on. I asked whether they could fix it so that the rear doors have a manual option. They said no, it is not possible. I told them that dogs could die because of this. He told me, in so many words, tough s.., very few of GMC's customers around the world use these vehicles for dogs. I explained to him that should all the dog people around the world stop buying the GMC Safari and Chevrolet Astro, GMC's pocket book would notice it. After my recalcitrant vehicle comes back from the GMC shop, I am taking it to STS. I talked, today, to a mechanic there, and he thinks he might be able to render the rear doors manual. I will let you all know how this comes out. In the meantime, avoid getting the GMC vehicles, as not having an option for manual operation for the rear doors could be lethal to your dogs!!! I will be writing a letter to GMC about this. I may also send cc's to the AKC, CKC, etc---get the word out. Any feedback on this subject? Sara Steele
Re: Frontline
Here in tick country USA (aka the Sierra Nevada foothills) I use a product called Preven-tic. Its a collar that looks like a flea collar and has been very successful. Its specific for ticks. I write the date I first use it on the collar so I don't forget to change it as its only good for 3-4 months. It can be ordered from some catalogs or bought at the vets office. Marjie -missing Dunbar
Ang: Re: Frontline/BIOSPOT
Hi, I used Biospot 2 summers ago to my Vincent. I called Bayers in Sweden and they did not like to tell me what Biospot contains of, it was a secret. They said, maybe ecalyptus - but no real answer. I saw ads - how natural Biospot would be. Biospot didn´t work and it also hurt the skin. Meaning I just used it once and not again. Think I will try garlic this summer. Margareta Strand Stockholm I was looking into a product called Biospot that I saw in the Drs Foster and Smith catalogue. It's supposed to kill fleas, ticks AND mosquitos. Well, maybe they mean repellent in the case of the mosquitos. Has anyone used this to any effect ?? It's also a LOT more affordable than Frontline. I always use Frontline , and haven't seen a flea in years. On the tick side of things , I've been lucky with the dogs. Lyme is a BIG concern in my area. I've had it and wouldn't wish it on a dog :-(. Any opinions on this brand , Biospot ???Thanks !! Laurie Montoya S. Central PA.
Re: Sherman's Way; part 1
posted gleefully in plain text for Donna and Sherman Open OB From Sherman's view point: The morning of March 8th, Mom got up early. I knew we were going on a trip even though Mom tried to hide it. She didn't want me to wake up Dad. He was staying home and that means one thing to me. Fun Time. Boy, oh boy, Aunt Debbie finally got here and we left. We rode for several hours before Mom slowed the car down and I could see some Berners, my kind of people. Wow, am I going to have fun. Hey, I know lots of these people and their Berner buddies. Gotta visit, oh all right, we can walk around outside for a few minutes but then it's back inside to visit and enjoy. What is Mom watching? Oh, it's that obedience stuff. I bet Mom thinks we can do it too, after all, I let her work real hard and I tried to teach her the right way to do this stuff. Hey, look, puppies and I see Nick and there's another youngster I haven't met yet. OK, OK Mom, I'll pay attention. Honest! Where is the red bag? What? You hid it. Well, and all too soon for me I must say it is our tu! rn. This will be just fine. Look at all the Berners and their buddies sitting around the ring. Aha a captive audience! Now believe this, I really tried to be good for Mom. Thank goodness, she finally took the leash off, now if she would just get rid of this blooming collar. Oh well, you can't have everything. Yeah, I know. Pay attention! Sherman heel. Wait Mom stopped already, she's looking at me. Well, I guess I can sit but she didn't wait. She's saying heel already. OK, we can do this. Say, what's that there on the floor. Oh, oh, we went by too fast. I'll check it out later. Oops, too fast again. Now of all things, would you believe that Mom is telling the judge about the food on the floor. She shouldn't have worried, I was going to get it eventually. Mom is ready again, I know, pay attention. I smiled at Mom real nice, she said heel and off we went again. Look, real people in here with us, I'll just wind myself around the first ones legs, then maybe she will pet me and if not then it is still the shortest way around. Mom, don't go so fast. Good you stopped and I guess I can sit and look good. Here we go again. I would really like to visit but Mom just keeps going. About time she stopped again and I sat again. Good, now Mom pets me but she doesn't sound real thrilled. She actually asked me what kind of heeling was that? Then it is sit straight, stand, then stay while she walks away and the judge comes over to give me some pats. Strange though he doesn't say anything to me, just pats and walks away and then Mom comes back. She's a little happier now and tells me to come over here with her. That's Mom, giving orders again, but I can do that, then it's Sherman sit but that's fine and I give Mom a real big smile. ! Whoops, now she wants me to stay here while she goes to the other side of the ring. I hear Sherman come, so I start across the ring toward Mom. What? Down? OK, time to collapse very slowly and comfortably to the floor, chin down, totally comfortable. This is great! I'll just watch Mom for now. Then it's Sherman come. I'm sure that was Mom but I really am comfortable, oh now it is the hand signal. Nah, I think I'll just stay here. SHERMAN means I better go to Mom right now but not too quick. Time for more pets, strange sweet talk and back to the other side of the ring. It's sit again and hey, that's my dumbbell that Mom has. Yes, Mom I know you want my attention. Mom threw the dumbbell, then she tells me to take it. I go right out, look around, look at the dumbbell then at Mom and back at the dumbbell. Wait! I smell food. Let me find it. I know it is here somewhere, so nose to the ring mat I start to search and I know I can find it. Now I hear SHERMAN COME.! I guess I better go, as now someone took the dumbbell and the food is gone. What do you mean we're doing this again? Isn't once enough? All right, sit, smile pretty, then Mom tosses the dumbbell and again she says take it. Naturally being a very obedient Berner, I go right to the dumbbell. Wait, what's that over there on my left. Wow, that Berner puppy is sure having a good time. What else is going on, who else is here? Let me check out the floor. Oh, there is that stupid dumbbell. HELLO! I'm supposed to pick it up. I do, then put it back down. Oh no, now I hear SHERMAN TAKE IT. OK, pick it up and take it to Mom, stop a short distance in front of her then spit it out at her. Oooo, she's not smiling, she is pointing at the dumbbell. OK pick it up, come closer then spit it out again. Now she tells me you know better than that. What do you mean we are not done yet? You want what? Me to come over there with you? Yeah, I can do that and even show a little enthusiasm. Boy, can I fool Mom but at least she is smiling so I'll smile back wh! ile she tells me to wait
Thank you everyone
Thank you everyone for your sympathetic messages and cards. Sophie's passing was hard and still is. However I know that I gave her the most peaceful and dignified way to go. She deserved that from me, after all that in her 12 years she did for me. She was not only a wonderful Bernese representative, she was a wonderful friend and child. Thanks again, give your Berners a hug from me and Sophie. Berners still rule other dogs drool! (do not tell the BC and the Paps that I said that!) Louise in Queens NY Devin blue merle BC and 2 Papillons, Carmen Riki [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Farm/5311/dragon.htm
Re: My Way; Sherman and Donna, part 2
posted in plain text for Donna: Graduate Novice from MY point of View We enter the ring for the heel free exercise. Sherman appears ready, off we go and other than a few crooked sits he actually did a very nice job. Not quite as nice on the figure 8. He was wrapping himself around the poles legs looking for some hugs I'm sure, so he really was lagging. All in all not too bad. Moving stand for exam. Very nice and really enjoyed standing, looking handsome and being patted by the judge. Moving drop on recall. Went very well, went down very nicely but he looked a little too comfortable to me. I was right, he was. He just laid there watching me smile while I thought What are you doing. Gave hand signal and he just watched and watched some more. Called again Sherman and he decided it was time to come to visit me but he went right to heel but it was a very nice finish even if he forgot the front. Dumbbell recall. We are at the far end of the ring, I give Sherman the dumbbell which he is now holding behind his front canines with his mouth open. I leave, get to the other side and turn around just in time to see the judge picking the dumbbell up from the floor and giving it to Sherman. Then the judge reaches over and taps Sherman under the chin and said hold it. Sherman still had it behind the front canines with his mouth open. Kind of a balancing act. I called him, he came and when nearing me while still in motion he spit the dumbbell out at me. I could reach it but barely. Forget the front and finish, Sherman just stood there and grinned. Recall over the broadjump. With a little enthusiasm I got Sherman over to the broad jump, sitting very nicely and actually paying attention to me. Ah, there is hope yet. I called him, he paraded up to the broad jump and proceeded to place his feet in between each and every board without touching any of them and sat very nicely in front and did a very nice finish. Long down. There is nothing unusual about this as this is Sherman's favorite exercise. He gets very comfortable, chin down and when I return that is exactly where he is. I know he gazes around on occasion so that he doesn't miss anything and knows where everyone is but he stays there. Now we are leaving the ring, thanking the judge who tells me that it is a good thing that I have a sense of humor and Sherman hears the judge tell me not to trade him in for a cat. Of course, I wouldn't and of course Sherman gave the judge a very big grin. Donna Coffin Check any e-mail over the Web for free at MailBreeze (http://www.mailbreeze.com)
Riding in Cars with Berners
So, I currently have a 1996 Toyota Rav4 which I thought would be a fine sized SUV for me, my boyfriend and my dog, Smokey. Turns out we have decidied this car is far too small, especially if we intend to add something else (baby or puppy) to our lives. So we have decided to buy a new SUV, to replace our aging Rav. Now we have been thinking about getting the Honda Element, or the Toyota Highlander. I was wondering if anyone had experiences with either of these cars. Also, currently I do not have any restraint system in my car for my dog (no flames please--I am working on it). I used to have this doggie seatbelt but Smokey can't sit comfortably on the seat so the belt is really not working. I can't fit a crate that Smokey could fit so that's out. So I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions. Thank you, Radha __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Re: Real Rescue Phone Calls....sigh....
Forwarded in plain text for Vilma - for all of you who do rescue! Pat -- It was originally from the Brittany list, but I have heard some of these excuses (especially #8!) given to me by people who no longer wanted their Cardigans (or Pems, or Dachshunds). Kathy * You have reached the rescue phone. Due to the high volume of calls we have been receiving, please listen closely to the following options and choose the one that best describes your situation: Press 1 if you think we are veterinarians and want free medical advice. Press 2 if you know we are a rescue organization but want to save money and have us give you free, untrained medical advice anyway. Press 3 if you make $200,000 a year but still want us to pay to spay the stray in your yard (house). Press 4 if you have a 10-year-old Brittany and your 15-year-old son has suddenly become allergic and you need to find the Britt a new home right away. Press 5 if you have three Brittanys, had a baby and want to get rid of your Britts because you are the only person in the world to have a baby and Brittanys at the same time. Press 6 if you have three Brittanys, had a baby and want to place the baby. Press 7 if you have a dying Brittany and you want to place it into another home so you can save the medical costs and not go through the trauma of watching it die. Press 8 if you just got a brand new puppy and your old Brittany is having problems adjusting so you want to get rid of the old one right away. Press 9 if your Brittany puppy has grown up and is no longer small and cute and you want to trade it in for a new model. Press 10 if you are elderly and want to adopt a Brittany puppy who is not active and is going to outlive you. Press 11 if your relative has died and you don't want to care for their elderly Brittany because it doesn't fit your lifestyle. Press 12 if you are moving today and need to immediately place your 80 pound, 8-year-old Brittany. Press 13 if you want an unpaid volunteer to come to your home today and pick up the Brittany you no longer want. Press 14 if you have been feeding and caring for a stray for the last year, are moving and suddenly determine it's not your Brittany. Press 15 if you are calling at 6 a.m. to make sure you wake me up before I have to go to work so you can drop a Brittany off on your way to work. Press 16 to leave us an anonymous garbled message, letting us know you have left a Brittany in our yard in the middle of January, which is in fact, better than just leaving the Britt with no message. Press 17 if you are going to get angry because we are not going to take your Brittany that you have had for fifteen years, because it is not our responsibility. Press 18 if you are going to threaten to take your ten year old Brittany to be euthanized because I won't take it. Press 19 if you're going to get angry because the volunteers had the audacity to go on vacation and leave the Britts in care of a trusted volunteer who is not authorized to take your personal pet. Press 20 if you want one of our perfectly trained, housebroken, kid and cat friendly purebred Brittanys that we have an abundance of. Press 21 if you want us to take your Brittany that has a slight aggression problem, (i.e. has only bitten a few people and killed your neighbor's cats). Press 22 if you have already called once and been told we don't take personal surrenders but thought you would get a different person this time with a different answer. Press 23 if you want us to use space that would go to a stray to board your personal Brittany while you are on vacation, free of charge, of course. Press 24 if it is Christmas Eve or Easter morning and you want me to deliver an eight week old puppy to your house by 6:30 am before your kids wake up. Press 25 if you want us to take your female Brittany who has already had ten litters, but we can't spay her because she is pregnant again and it is against your religion. Press 26 if you're lying to make one of our younger volunteers feel bad and take your personal pet off your hands. Press 27 if your two year old male Brittany is marking all over your house but you just haven't gotten around to having him neutered. Press 28 if you previously had an outdoor only Brittany and are calling because she is suddenly pregnant. Press 29 if you have done everything to housebreak your Britt and have had no success but you don't want to crate the dog because it is cruel. Press 30 if your Brittany doesn't match your new furniture and you need a different color or breed. And finally, press 31 if your new boyfriend or girlfriend doesn't like your Brittany and you are too stupid to get rid of the new friend (who will dump you in the next month anyway) instead of the Brittany. For those of you laughing or shaking your heads in disbelief, please be assured ALL of these calls have happened, except for No. 6. Vilma
Re: Scrubs
Andrea, Here's what I found doing a www.google.com search for Bernese related scrubs: www.1barkavenue.com/store/bernese.shtml www.doggieinwindow.com/bmdsrcset1.htm www.mines.edu/fs_home/cschamau/bmd/frames/wear.html About halfway down the page there's a description of the Berner scrubs: Berner scrub tops, scrub jackets and caps, etc. S.C.R.U.B.S Uniform Co. Sells mostly clothing for health care professionals. In addition to the items mentioned below, they have hair accessories, surgical hats, etc. Stores in Phoenix, AZ and So. California. Call for locations. SCRUBS 8665 Argent St. Suite D Santee, CA 92071 Orders: (800) 231-5965 Hours (Pacific Time) 5:00 am - midnight Monday - Friday 7:00am - 6:00pm Saturday 8:00am - 4:00pm Sunday o Phone: (619) 448-1345 o Fax: (619) 448-0306 The fabric, called My Dog, is a multi-print black/brown/tan/white design that includes Berners! Available Items: Basic Scrub Top (1 pocket on left chest, can be worn tucked in or out) $23 - $28 XS-XL Alternative Plus Top(1 pocket on left chest and 2 big pockets on the bottom front, to be worn out)$26 - $32 XS-XL Pat Tackett Texas __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
RE: Scrubs
thanks, i did that too. many of searches did not pan out, i did order these http://www.dynastyforpetlovers.com/DOGPAGE.HTM. it will be interesting when he walks into the cardiac cath lab with the on. andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Patricia Tackett Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 3:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scrubs Andrea, Here's what I found doing a www.google.com search for Bernese related scrubs: www.1barkavenue.com/store/bernese.shtml www.doggieinwindow.com/bmdsrcset1.htm www.mines.edu/fs_home/cschamau/bmd/frames/wear.html About halfway down the page there's a description of the Berner scrubs: Berner scrub tops, scrub jackets and caps, etc. S.C.R.U.B.S Uniform Co. Sells mostly clothing for health care professionals. In addition to the items mentioned below, they have hair accessories, surgical hats, etc. Stores in Phoenix, AZ and So. California. Call for locations. SCRUBS 8665 Argent St. Suite D Santee, CA 92071 Orders: (800) 231-5965 Hours (Pacific Time) 5:00 am - midnight Monday - Friday 7:00am - 6:00pm Saturday 8:00am - 4:00pm Sunday o Phone: (619) 448-1345 o Fax: (619) 448-0306 The fabric, called My Dog, is a multi-print black/brown/tan/white design that includes Berners! Available Items: Basic Scrub Top (1 pocket on left chest, can be worn tucked in or out) $23 - $28 XS-XL Alternative Plus Top(1 pocket on left chest and 2 big pockets on the bottom front, to be worn out)$26 - $32 XS-XL Pat Tackett Texas __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Re:About Bio spot
posted in plain text for Di: [Note: any dog may have a reaction to almost anything, so a product that is good for one dog, may or may not be all right for another! Always be wary when trying anything new. Thanks Di!] Pat I tried Bio spot on Highlander and had a terrible reaction from it. Are dogs are too sensitive for it. High does fine on Frontline. Thank you. He shook all over foamed at the mouth and panted heavily I bath him over and over that nite. I ran him to the vet early that morning. Tell the berner folk to stay away from Bio Spot! Fondly, Di, High, Tessa and baby Connor too Check any e-mail over the Web for free at MailBreeze (http://www.mailbreeze.com)
fabric or leather
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Re: Frontline
Hi Everyone- I was told by my holistic vet last year, that Frontline is the only tick product that does not work systemically. In other words...it does not enter the bloodstream and infect the internal organs of the pets. It only works from the hair follicle level. From what I understand, the tick does not have to bite the dog...it only needs to have contact with the skin/hair. Applying the product correctly is crucial. A pharmaceutical rep recommended to me that we instruct clients to remove leather and nylon collars prior to applying the product, so it can travel to the skin on the dog's head without getting absorbed by the collar. It is also important to get the full amount inside the vial onto the pet's skin...not the hair around the application site. The product is wasted if it is only emptied onto the hair itself. Another important step is to not bathe the dog (or cat) at least 2 days either before or after the Frontline application. An oily haircoat helps the product work most effectively. As other listers have stated...remember, Frontline (and other products such as BioSpot, PrevenTic Collars, etc) are not 'repellants'...you WILL find ticks on your pet. The objective is to make them neurologic and kill them before they have the opportunity to transmit disease...OR crawl off the dog or cat and climb on you instead. Take care, Jennie Hoffnagle Glenmoore, PA
Hello,berner-l,let's be friends
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SUVs, Leather etc
For seats, if you can, I would recommend leather in a heartbeat - especially if you have to occasionally transport humans too. It cleans up so quickly and easily; fur never sticks to it and mud, drool etc wipe off easily. I had fabric in my two previous trucks and wouldn't go back to that - there was always a ton of fur on them (of course) and mud etc was much harder to get out. I like the looks of the Highlander (being a Toyota type of person) especially the large cargo area, but because it is only available with two or three option packages it priced out higher than the 4Runner. This was about a year and a half ago now, it may be different now, or different in the US. I'm on my third 4Runner right now, and I really like them. The only drawback that I would mention is that the rear latch tends to get stuck after a while and need professional intervention. (It is a manual latch though.) This has happened on all three of my vehicles. Oh, and they don't have butt warmers ;) Jen At 10:10 AM 18/03/2003 -0800, you wrote: Now we have been thinking about getting the Honda Element, or the Toyota Highlander. I was wondering if anyone had experiences with either of these cars.
my dogmobile
I am pleased with the recent performance of my Ford Windstar as it has gotten me safely back and forth to Angell Memorial Animal Hospital and, during the storm when 100 cars were piled up on 95 in the Attleboro, MA area, it got me through blinding snow, around the pile-up via a detour, and home safely. Why was I on the road, you ask? It was not my intention to be caught in the storm. When I left to purchase Moses' medicine, it was not snowing. I don't like the fact that everything is automatic these days; when I requested manual controls for doors, windows, whatever, the salesman looked at me like I was Fred Flintstone asking for a new club. My favorite vehicle of all time, but I shall not buy another, is the Suburban. I don't like the modern ones at all. I want them to bring back the big, boxy ones with the double rear doors that practically screamed, Bring me your dogs, horses, building materials, etc! The current ones scream, Fetch me your soccer team and park me only in the tonier neighborhoods! My vehicle carries what is most precious to me, my dogs. Therefore, every three months I take it in for a check up, work, whatever, whether it needs it or not. I lease so that means they force me to get a new vehicle every three years. I lease because of this and because I am protected by the automobile company as well as the local emergency services company, just in case. I have trained my salesman, a long-timer, to respond to my needs. He knows that he can not put one over on me and that, if a vehicle is delivered which does not meet my specifications (for the dogs, of course), I shall refuse delivery. To his credit, he personally went shopping for special mats for me for the dogs to use under the crates in the van. I buy my vehicles in the neighboring state at a dealership whose emphasis has always been on, mainly, personal satisfaction and excellent service. Since these are my priorities re: my driving experience, it suits me well. Lisa Allen _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Happy News!
Hi All, Guess we are all in need of cheering up in these troubled times! After very sad time for Chris and Herb Baker with the loss of Katie to Histio and for me great sadness in adding her page to the Histio Roll Call Site http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/histiorollcall.htm Here's some Good News! Had just uploaded some new pages of pics Chris and Herb sent me for the Longlease Friends Gallery. Prince Valiant, oh so wee pup born to Cassie and just three days old! Wonderful pics of Sweetie heavily expectant checking out the whelping box and enjoying the snow. And for the Humour Page, Cat Dana lecturing the 'faux Berners!' Next minute in comes mail from Chris and Herb and Sweetie has given birth to healthy litter of 9 pups! Just added in the Stop Press! More pictures to come! Check out the Longlease Recent Updates Page. All love, Jean, Sunny, Simmy, Barney and the Gang X http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/index.htm
Re: Sensitive ear flaps!
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Sensitive ear flaps! Hi I have a 3 year old male berner, Mason, he is the BEST dog, he is ever present and so loyal, he loves us all the same in his own way. My questions is this, his ear flaps seem to be very sensetive, he can't stand when we touch them, any thoughts on this? Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks Has he been checked for ear infections or parasites like mites? Eileen Morgan March 30th Clinic Information: http://www.enter.net/~edlehman/USEAAR2.html The Mare's Nest http://www.enter.net/~edlehman --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.461 / Virus Database: 260 - Release Date: 3/10/2003
Frontline/Biospot
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Frontline/Biospot
Reposted in plain text :-(. Please don't strangle me Pat !!! Thanks for all the responses ! WOW ! There are too many to respond to individually , LOL ! I've gotten a wide range of opinions , which I expected (including bad reactions) and I think I'll stick with the Frontline for now :-). I was initially looking at the Biospot because of the price. Luckily , I don't have a flea problem , but need to keep dogs covered during the summer months. Again , thanks to all who responed , Laurie Montoya w/ Hannah , Shelby the Wonder Mutt , and a guest
dog food / dog treats
Dear Members, What dog food/dog treats do Berner List readers use? At a recent dog show in Chicago there were numerous booths set up advertising allergy free and other natural foods/treats. Unfortunately, what you see of the small manufacturers of dog food/treats at the AKC events are not available in the regular food stores or large pet stores like Petsmart or Petco. We are trying Wellness and Innova brands that we found in a smaller store far from us. We found Old Mother Hubbard treats there also but we were disappointed with the lack of healthy variety brands at this small pet boutique. Unfortunately, our 7 month old pup tried raw hides and of course loves them. With her recent bout of diarrhea we have restricted her diet. Is it ever OK to give rawhides that contain no chemicals or preservatives to dogs if you supervise them closely? I know once the raw hide gets chewed and becomes gooey it becomes extremely dangerous to the dogs and cause choking as they try to swallow it. Any comments on the Berner-L list are appreciated. Terry
BioSpot
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Berner Digest Mail list
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