Re: [blind-gamers] Update on explaining the compass for Damien.
Clever On 8/17/20, Paul Lemm wrote: > Hi Gary, > > Not promising it will work, but as a possible solution/method for explaining > this: You could ask him to stand facing directly towards a radio which is > playing music, he'll at this point recognise the radio/sound is directly in > front of him. Then ask him to turn slowly to face left, as he turns he > should hear himself turning away from the sound of the radio, when he is > facing left he will notice that although he has turned the radio has stayed > in the same position, where as before the sound was directly in front of him > the radio/sound should now be to the right, hopefully a physical experiment > like this will allow him to see/hear first-hand how objects positions stay > the same even when you yourself move. Although everyone is different, I tend > to find practical demonstrations (like this with the radio) can be easier > to grasp if someone can experience it first hand, rather than trying to > verbally explain something which is very physical in nature like this, as > it can sometimes avoid people overthinking or over complicating something. > the second advantage of this technique is that Since we use similar > navigation hints/queues in audio games this might feel more familiar to > him. Again, knot promising this will definitely help, but just thought I'd > throw a possible suggestion out there. > > Paul Lemm > > -Original Message- > From: blind-gamers@groups.io On Behalf Of Gary > Price(Gmail) > Sent: 16 August 2020 17:20 > To: Blind Gamers Group > Subject: [blind-gamers] Update on explaining the compass for Damien. > > Well everyone, now I seriously don't know what else to try with Damien! > > > Get this, he can understand basic directions, up down left/right. > > > But now he can't grasp the concept of objects been in different places when > you change direction! > > So how on earth can I explain that one? > > > He's even stumpt John who's been helping me out with Shades of Doom. > > > But I've even tried breaking level one down into little stages. Nope, he > still doesn't get it! > > > Any ideas welcomed! > > > Anyway just an update. > > -- > Gary Price. > This is my backup Email address. > gazwpr...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > -- Justin M. Jones, M.A. atreides...@gmail.com (254) 624-9155 701 Ewing St. #509-C, Ft. Wayne IN, 46802 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#122797): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/122797 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/76226522/21656 Group Owner: blind-gamers+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/1071380848/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [blind-gamers] Update on explaining the compass for Damien.
Hi Gary, Not promising it will work, but as a possible solution/method for explaining this: You could ask him to stand facing directly towards a radio which is playing music, he'll at this point recognise the radio/sound is directly in front of him. Then ask him to turn slowly to face left, as he turns he should hear himself turning away from the sound of the radio, when he is facing left he will notice that although he has turned the radio has stayed in the same position, where as before the sound was directly in front of him the radio/sound should now be to the right, hopefully a physical experiment like this will allow him to see/hear first-hand how objects positions stay the same even when you yourself move. Although everyone is different, I tend to find practical demonstrations (like this with the radio) can be easier to grasp if someone can experience it first hand, rather than trying to verbally explain something which is very physical in nature like this, as it can sometimes avoid people overthinking or over complicating something. the second advantage of this technique is that Since we use similar navigation hints/queues in audio games this might feel more familiar to him. Again, knot promising this will definitely help, but just thought I'd throw a possible suggestion out there. Paul Lemm -Original Message- From: blind-gamers@groups.io On Behalf Of Gary Price(Gmail) Sent: 16 August 2020 17:20 To: Blind Gamers Group Subject: [blind-gamers] Update on explaining the compass for Damien. Well everyone, now I seriously don't know what else to try with Damien! Get this, he can understand basic directions, up down left/right. But now he can't grasp the concept of objects been in different places when you change direction! So how on earth can I explain that one? He's even stumpt John who's been helping me out with Shades of Doom. But I've even tried breaking level one down into little stages. Nope, he still doesn't get it! Any ideas welcomed! Anyway just an update. -- Gary Price. This is my backup Email address. gazwpr...@gmail.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#122796): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/122796 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/76226522/21656 Group Owner: blind-gamers+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/1071380848/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [blind-gamers] Update on explaining the compass for Damien.
For the record, a public mailing list probably is a bad place to make a post like this, that could be easily interpreted as rather thoroughly insulting someone - and I'm taking the liberty of presuming that wasn't actually your intent. On 8/16/2020 12:19, Gary Price(Gmail) wrote: Well everyone, now I seriously don't know what else to try with Damien! Get this, he can understand basic directions, up down left/right. But now he can't grasp the concept of objects been in different places when you change direction! So how on earth can I explain that one? He's even stumpt John who's been helping me out with Shades of Doom. But I've even tried breaking level one down into little stages. Nope, he still doesn't get it! Any ideas welcomed! Anyway just an update. _._,_._,_ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#122795) | Reply To Group | Mute This Topic | New Topic Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [arch...@mail-archive.com] _._,_._,_
Re: [blind-gamers] Update on explaining the compass for Damien.
Unfortunately it may be one of those situations where his brain can't grasp the concept fully. That's not a criticism or insult at all. Like I said I have a dear friend who has the same or at least a similar issue. It might also be something easier to show in person with physical objects. Honestly, I'm very glad for this discussion because I think the blind community, in general that is not anyone specifically here, can be very critical of people for things like this when it's not really their fault. On 8/16/2020 11:19 AM, Gary Price(Gmail) wrote: Well everyone, now I seriously don't know what else to try with Damien! Get this, he can understand basic directions, up down left/right. But now he can't grasp the concept of objects been in different places when you change direction! So how on earth can I explain that one? He's even stumpt John who's been helping me out with Shades of Doom. But I've even tried breaking level one down into little stages. Nope, he still doesn't get it! Any ideas welcomed! Anyway just an update. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#122794): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/122794 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/76226522/21656 Group Owner: blind-gamers+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/1071380848/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
[blind-gamers] Update on explaining the compass for Damien.
Well everyone, now I seriously don't know what else to try with Damien! Get this, he can understand basic directions, up down left/right. But now he can't grasp the concept of objects been in different places when you change direction! So how on earth can I explain that one? He's even stumpt John who's been helping me out with Shades of Doom. But I've even tried breaking level one down into little stages. Nope, he still doesn't get it! Any ideas welcomed! Anyway just an update. -- Gary Price. This is my backup Email address. gazwpr...@gmail.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#122793): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/122793 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/76226522/21656 Group Owner: blind-gamers+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/1071380848/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
