Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brîn : rejuveniles)
At 04:32 PM 10/9/03 +1000, Russell Chapman wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: with no indication of their correct order. That's what those numbers punched in columns 72-80 were for . . . Yep - I never made that mistake again... :-) Of course, that was supposed to read columns *73* through 80 . . . That Would Have Been Really Annoying If I'd Done It While Punching Cards On An IBM Model 026 Card Punch, Which Didn't Print The Character It Punched At The Top Of The Card Like The Model 029 Did Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)
At 10:37 PM 10/8/03 -0400, John Garcia wrote: Does anyone else remember making pictures on greenbar paper of ships, Well, once for some obscure reason¹ we had a drawing in the math department where the advertised prize was a 100-foot yacht. The 100-foot yacht turned out to be a stack of said continuous-form printer paper which, when extended, was 100 feet² long, with the word YACHT printed over and over and over . . . ¹Isn't They are _math_ majors explanation enough? ²Sorry, Alberto, this was done on an IBM 1403 printer³, which used paper that was sized in inches, not centimeters. ³Anyone else here ever use one of those? Remember what would happen when the paper control tape finally wore out and broke in the middle of a print job? people, etc? Something like this, perhaps, which some geek with no prospects of access to the real thing¹ would spend hours creating and then hang on the wall of the computer room (Whoever heard of a _female_ CS major in those days) or his dorm room²? ¹Not me. ²I never lived in a dorm, either. (Modified from the original to be suitable for those who access the list from work . . . ) ::,(***(; :+;:::,,;(;;;!**( (:,,!*=*+*!!!(=: :(::!,,,+$+;;!!:: (=: : , 2% ::,;,*+$+=*!;;!:,: +; :,,+5+*$ ;8; *+2$+*=+=*;,(+=:::=*;+$+( : % +%=!:!;;**(=$$+(*(=(;;!(*%%=;, :=%=( $=+%;;;(!!*=%%%22$$%%%$5*!, (2$A% +=22(!!::,;**;!((;;+A2*::: ;(+%=$5( %=0;,,,((!:!$Q%!,:!,,0=+(%=; ::$=,!((,(,$50%(!*;, ;0,*% *02((,::$8+;%0=*!: ;Q!!8 %*+0%;,:: ,85*2+(+5=*;;*22;::A, :25A2+;: !( !85$=!(=55$:;$0+$! 8( ;2%!,!: :;+( ;02%,:::,::! ,2%,:!: 2% ,==+(,!=! ,%02%08;,: : :, :$2,,* %$ : (:;;:=$!==$28$, !: ,(2$+,(: ;0; ,(*+:: ,:*%2A85*: !:(((%88+*:8; !!%!; (2;(%2#2:!+=((: : :2, ;%:: ;;!*+5% :;;!,!,=$: , :$! 28% ,!:;=%;=05!: : :: ,;:;((;, %, +m: ,: :, ,;+8m:::!,::,+,!% !2 ;,;*2m(: ::!! %+! ,$,=(%$((: : ;, : :0!: *+;=(*,:;! :=;: $*: !;%, :,!!,:% 8, :;!(;,;,!: : ;( 0=!:,(,(!;;:: :$, =A%,(,*!,,: :::: ;= DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED**DELETED ;=*=$: :,: !* ;2+ ,*(%: :, +: *$!= ::;;%, :, ,= %!,= :::;**: : %: %, :+;%; :: ,% =! =;::,!$; :: =; *(;=, :,%* :,: $: !* *( ::==::! !% :% :!=: *%: :,: ::+, % : =; :!*=: :!:!% *; (( ,::+=::!!:$; % %::!::2! ,* %; (* *!;,: =+ ;!;$;: !(;, ,=!, :+( :(; !+5:
Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)
William T Goodall wrote: My first personal computer was a Sinclair Spectrum in 1982 Me too. I wonder if there are any Sinclair emulators this millenium :-) Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)
Alberto Monteiro and William T Goodall converse: My first personal computer was a Sinclair Spectrum in 1982 Me too. I wonder if there are any Sinclair emulators this millenium :-) Alberto Monteiro Mine was an Apple II+ with two (countem') floppy drives, a 16k card to bring it up to a whopping 64k, and UCSD Pascal. All hooked up to a 12 BB TV. What a GREAT system. George A ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Vatican Vs Science: 'condoms don't stop hiv / AIDS'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/aids/story/0,7369,1059068,00.html Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids Steve Bradshaw Thursday October 9, 2003 The Guardian The Catholic Church is telling people in countries stricken by Aids not to use condoms because they have tiny holes in them through which the HIV virus can pass - potentially exposing thousands of people to risk. The church is making the claims across four continents despite a widespread scientific consensus that condoms are impermeable to the HIV virus. A senior Vatican spokesman backs the claims about permeable condoms, despite assurances by the World Health Organisation that they are untrue. The church's claims are revealed in a BBC1 Panorama programme, Sex and the Holy City, to be broadcast on Sunday. The president of the Vatican's Pontifical Council for the Family, Cardinal Alfonso Lopez Trujillo, told the programme: The Aids virus is roughly 450 times smaller than the spermatozoon. The spermatozoon can easily pass through the 'net' that is formed by the condom. These margins of uncertainty... should represent an obligation on the part of the health ministries and all these campaigns to act in the same way as they do with regard to cigarettes, which they state to be a danger. The WHO has condemned the Vatican's views, saying: These incorrect statements about condoms and HIV are dangerous when we are facing a global pandemic which has already killed more than 20 million people, and currently affects at least 42 million. The organisation says consistent and correct condom use reduces the risk of HIV infection by 90%. There may be breakage or slippage of condoms - but not, the WHO says, holes through which the virus can pass . Scientific research by a group including the US National Institutes of Health and the WHO found intact condoms... are essentially impermeable to particles the size of STD pathogens including the smallest sexually transmitted virus... condoms provide a highly effective barrier to transmission of particles of similar size to those of the smallest STD viruses. The Vatican's Cardinal Trujillo said: They are wrong about that... this is an easily recognisable fact. The church opposes any kind of contraception because it claims it breaks the link between sex and procreation - a position Pope John Paul II has fought to defend. In Kenya - where an estimated 20% of people have the HIV virus - the church condemns condoms for promoting promiscuity and repeats the claim about permeability. The archbishop of Nairobi, Raphael Ndingi Nzeki, said: Aids... has grown so fast because of the availability of condoms. Sex and the Holy City includes a Catholic nun advising her HIV-infected choirmaster against using condoms with his wife because the virus can pass through. In Lwak, near Lake Victoria, the director of an Aids testing centre says he cannot distribute condoms because of church opposition. Gordon Wambi told the programme: Some priests have even been saying that condoms are laced with HIV/Aids. Panorama found the claims about permeable condoms repeated by Catholics as far apart as Asia and Latin America. · Steve Bradshaw is a correspondent with Panorama. Sex and the Holy City will be broadcast on BBC1 at 10.15pm on Sunday. --- Jer 24:2 One basket had very good figs, even like the figs that are first ripe: and the other basket had very naughty figs, which could not be eaten, they were so bad. Jer 29:17 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Behold, I will send upon them the sword, the famine, and the pestilence, and will make them like vile figs, that cannot be eaten, they are so evil. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Vatican Vs Science: 'condoms don't stop hiv / AIDS'
The Catholic Church is telling people in countries stricken by Aids not to use condoms (...) And some people still want to give'em the Nobel Peace Prize. Well, maybe they deserve it: nothing like a bug killing everybody to make people forget to kill each other. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)
Dan Minette wrote: OK, since we're playing the oldest stuff game here. What is the oldest computer everyone here has worked on? I think mine (which I've mentioned before) is the oldest, but I'd be curious to see who might beat me. :-) Hmm...that would probably be the Commodore 64. Also, the Apple II in elementary school a couple of years later. -- Matt ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Scouted: Texas Men Tripped up by 'Whizzinator'
Stupid Human Tricks: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,99577,00.html Texas Men Tripped Up by 'Whizzinator' Thursday, October 09, 2003 LUBBOCK, Texas Some West Texas men on probation are in trouble again, this time for using the Whizzinator to help them pass court-ordered urinalysis tests. In the past six months, five men on probation were caught using a realistic-looking prosthetic that dispenses synthetic, drug-free urine (search), Lubbock County sheriff's officials said. One was caught by an alert officer who heard something unusual in the restroom. A body part when it's up against a plastic cup isn't going to go 'clink,' said Tom Madigan, interim assistant director of the Lubbock County adult probation office. Jon GSV Doh! Le Blog: http://zarq.livejournal.com _ Instant message with integrated webcam using MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Vatican Vs Science: 'condoms don't stop hiv / AIDS'
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/aids/story/0,7369,1059068,00.html Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids Sex and the Holy City includes a Catholic nun advising her HIV-infected choirmaster against using condoms with his wife because the virus can pass through. Evil, pure evil. Catholics everywhere should be ashamed. Tell me, how is standing by and allowing this to happen any better than muslum clarics who do not speak out against islamic terorists? = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: list help: one cup coffee makers
Russell Chapman wrote: Kevin Tarr wrote: Not looking to spend a lot of money, but it'd be a good Christmas gift. She has a regular coffee maker, but doing just one cup is tough. What about a Bodum - do you have them there? Has a clear pot where you throw the ground beans in and fill with boiling water (though I prefer a touch of room temperature water first to avoid scalding the beans). Then after the beans have had some infusion time, you push down the plunger which has a mesh filter in it to push all the suspended and undissolved beans etc down to the bottom (below the filter), so you can pour the coffee into the cup. They come in all sizes including single cup. I love it - simple, easy to clean, no waste. I've heard that called a French Press. -- Matt ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
lowdown on The Rundown
Me and the brother when to see it last night. I wanted to see Under the Tucson Sun but he doesn't like movies about the southwest. Not sci-fi, but enough of a fantasy to be talked about here. If you like fight scenes that are just on this side of credibility, implausible people with unfathomable ethos, and monkeys; then this movie is for you. Otherwise run, run far away. It wasn't that bad really. Certain characters were over the top but (other than the big one, and the one at the end) I saw no plot problems. Create a conflict, have a fight, make a movie. Reset and go to next location. If you go, see the beginning. Don't miss the magic glass of orange juice in the bar, (middle of the movie). Kevin T. - VRWC The first line is a joke. I should be doing yard work. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: depleted uranium and iraq [L3]
Going back through the messages. - Original Message - From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 1:27 PM Subject: RE: depleted uranium and iraq [L3] But evidence that high levels of radiation cause cancer and genetic damage is strong - IIRC, there is no indication after 50+ years of study that the children of men and women exposed to high levels of radiation from the two atomic bombings in Japan have a higher rate of illness or any other indication of genetic damage than a control group (as long as the child was conceived after the bombings). If that is what you meant by genetic damage, I will have to disagree. If you meant harm to the person exposed, I have no problem. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Vatican Vs Science: 'condoms don't stop hiv / AIDS'
Jan Coffey wrote: Evil, pure evil. Catholics everywhere should be ashamed. Let's help them. Today, the director of my children's school was exhibiting a medal that she got, that was blessed by the Pope. She said something like it had a lot of power. I quickly said: it must be very powerfull indeed, much more powerful than condoms to prevent AIDS She wants to kill me O:-) Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: LotR: Trilogy marathon: tFotR Extended, tTT Extended, RotK dec 16
In a message dated 10/9/2003 2:58:07 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Theaters being shown at: http://www.lordoftherings.net/trilogy/theaters.html Ah. Thanks. Well I guess I can suffer going to this theater for these movies. Park Place has no theater parking lot separate from the mall, charges fifty cents more than other theaters in town, and draws a less 'educated' audience that feeds off of the food court that you have to go through to get to the box office and escalators. A purely californicated setting. Now..a Marathon screening? I wonder if you have a chance to go get real food between each part. William Taylor - Bet the lines at the restrooms will look line the siege at Helms Deep. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Vatican Vs Science: 'condoms don't stop hiv / AIDS'
-Original Message- From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 12:34 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Vatican Vs Science: 'condoms don't stop hiv / AIDS' --- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/aids/story/0,7369,1059068,00.html Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids Sex and the Holy City includes a Catholic nun advising her HIV-infected choirmaster against using condoms with his wife because the virus can pass through. Evil, pure evil. Catholics everywhere should be ashamed. Tell me, how is standing by and allowing this to happen any better than muslum clarics who do not speak out against islamic terorists? Consider shining the light the other way. Why would those being consuled to not use condoms not be completely outraged by such statements? The fact is, those cultures that have the highest incidents of the disease, are those that don't believe condoms work. The Church, in this case, is merely reflecting the cultural beliefs of the afflicted countries. The Church only has power if people already believe what they say. All else is only validation and re-enforcement. Sadly, the disease will take those who still want to believe the condoms : 1 transmit AIDS, 2 don't protect from AIDS, 3 are tainted with AIDS (the U.S. made ones). Even more sad are those who will become infected because of other foolish beliefs like: Having sex with virgins will cure AIDS, or men having sex with their wives after having sex with infected prostitutes. Tragically, it is infected women who are usually blamed in these cases of transmitting the disease to the husband and are often murdered or outcast because of it. The Church is clearly wrong from a scientific basis, but the meme still lives because the culture accepts it as fact. The result is the same regardless of whether or not the chuch choose to take such a wrong position. Remember as well, Rightousness trumps being right. Nerd From Hell = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: LotR: Trilogy marathon: tFotR Extended, tTT Extended, RotK de c 16
I got tickets to one and two, but the one time only trilogy was sold out... Nerd From Hell -Original Message- From: The Fool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 2:16 PM To: Brin-L Subject: LotR: Trilogy marathon: tFotR Extended, tTT Extended, RotK dec 16 12 hour marathon: THE LORD OF THE RINGS: SPECIAL EXTENDED EDITION SCREENING ENGAGEMENT BRINGS ADDITIONAL FOOTAGE TO THE BIG SCREEN FOR THE FIRST AND ONLY TIME Leading up to the December 17 release of The Lord of The Rings: The Return of the King, the final film Peter Jackson's epic trilogy, New Line Cinema will bring moviegoers an exclusive, One-time-only in-theater event: The Lord of the Rings Special Extended Edition Screening Engagement. The schedule for this special theatrical screening series is as follows: December 5-11 Special Extended Edition The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring December 12-15 Special Extended Edition The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Tuesday, December 16 One-time-only marathon of both the Extended Edition prints followed by the first screenings of The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King. http://www.lordoftherings.net/trilogy/index.html Theaters being shown at: http://www.lordoftherings.net/trilogy/theaters.html ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Teenager In Trouble In Inhaler Incident
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=320ncid=320e=2u=/ibsys/20031008/lo_kprc/1822975 A teenager was disciplined for sharing medication used to treat asthma, but he said it saved his girlfriend's life, News2Houston reported Wednesday. Andra Ferguson and her boyfriend, Brandon Kivi, both 15, use the same type of asthma medicine, Albuterol Inhalation Aerosol. Ferguson said she forgot to bring her medication to their school, Caney Creek High School, on Sept. 24. When she had trouble breathing, she went to the nurse's office. Out of concern, Kivi let her use his inhaler. I was trying to save her life. I didn't want her to die on me right there because the nurse's office (doesn't) have breathing machines, Kivi said. It made a big difference. It did save my life. It was a Good Samaritan act, Ferguson said. But the school nurse said it was a violation of the district's no-tolerance drug policy, and reported Kivi to the campus police. The next day, he was arrested and accused of delivering a dangerous drug. Kivi was also suspended from school for three days. He could face expulsion and sent to juvenile detention on juvenile drug charges. The mothers of both teenagers are angry. My son will not go to jail. This is ridiculous, said Theresa Hock, Kivi's mother. I believe he shouldn't be punished at all because he was helping her. She was in distress. If he hadn't helped her, she would have passed out or died or something because her asthma's been really bad this year, said Sandra Ferguson, Andra's mother. The school principal said he couldn't do anything about it since Kivi not only broke school rules, but also allegedly violated state law. It's simply a matter that it's classified as a dangerous drug. It's an inhaler form, but yet, if it had been in pill form or any other, it's still classified as a dangerous drug, said Greg Poole, the Caney Creek principal. Would Caney Creek had want Andra to have died rather than my son to help her? Hock said. Poole said the nurse never considered Andra to be in a life-threatening situation. The school district will hold a hearing on the matter Friday. xponent Dans End Of Town Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
NASA Successfully Flies First Laser-powered Aircraft
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=12743 Ever since the dawn of powered flight, it has been necessary for all aircraft to carry onboard fuel - whether in the form of batteries, fuel, solar cells, or even a human engine - in order to stay aloft. But a team of researchers from NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., NASA's Dryden Flight Research Center at Edwards, Calif., and the University of Alabama in Huntsville is trying to change that. They have now chalked up a major accomplishment... and a first. The team has developed and demonstrated a small-scale aircraft that flies solely by means of propulsive power delivered by an invisible, ground-based laser. The laser tracks the aircraft in flight, directing its energy beam at specially designed photovoltaic cells carried onboard to power the plane's propeller. The craft could keep flying as long as the energy source, in this case the laser beam, is uninterrupted, said Robert Burdine, Marshall's laser project manager for the test. This is the first time that we know of that a plane has been powered only by the energy of laser light. It really is a groundbreaking development for aviation. We feel this really was a tremendous success for the project, added David Bushman, project manager for beamed power at Dryden. We are always trying to develop new technologies that will enable new capabilities in flight, and we think this is a step in the right direction. The plane, with its five-foot wingspan, weighs only 11 ounces and is constructed from balsa wood, carbon fiber tubing and is covered with Mylar film, a cellophane-like material. Designed and built at Dryden, the aircraft is a one-of-a-kind, radio-controlled model airplane. A special panel of photovoltaic cells, selected and tested by team participants at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, is designed to efficiently convert the energy from the laser wavelength into electricity to power a small electric motor that spins the propeller. The lightweight, low-speed plane was flown indoors at Marshall to prevent wind and weather from affecting the test flights. After the craft was released from a launching platform inside the building, the laser beam was aimed at the airplane panels, causing the propeller to spin and propel the craft around the building, lap after lap. When the laser beam was turned off, the airplane glided to a landing. The team made a similar series of demonstration flights in 2002 at Dryden, using a theatrical searchlight as a power source. The recent flights at Marshall are the first known demonstration of an aircraft flying totally powered by a ground-based laser. The demonstration is a key step toward the capability to beam power to a plane aloft. Without the need for onboard fuel or batteries, such a plane could carry scientific or communication equipment, for instance, and stay in flight indefinitely. The concept offers potential commercial value to the remote sensing and telecommunications industries, according to Bushman. A telecommunications company could put transponders on an airplane and fly it over a city, Bushman said. The aircraft could be used for everything from relaying cell phone calls to cable television or Internet connections. Laser power beaming is a promising technology for future development of aircraft design and operations. The concept supports NASA's mission-critical goals for the development of revolutionary aerospace technologies. Editor's note: A NASA TV VideoFile on this subject will be broadcast beginning at 12 noon EDT October 9, 2003. NASA TV is available on the AMC-9C transponder, C-Band, located at 85 degrees west longitude. The frequency is 3880.0 MHz. Polarization is vertical and audio is monaural at 6.80 MHz. xponent Light Flight Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Life Eaters
Reggie Bautista wrote: Jim wrote: I dunno. I read the last collaboration between Hampton and Dr. Brin, Forgiveness_, and I was underwhelmed. Some of that might be my distaste for Hampton's art style (which I've been down on since _Books of Magic_), but I just didn't get the sense that the graphic novel format is DB's forte. Just for clarification... did you like Hampton's work on _Books of Magic_ but not like anything since, or did you also not like Hampton's work on _Books of Magic_? I'm just trying to gauge your recommendation against my own likes and dislikes. I didn't like his work on BoM that much. In particular, the watercolor style washes out some of the facial expressions, and his faces also have a certain bugeyes aspect that I dislike. In Forgiveness, I though it was even more pronounced, and it turned me off. Jim YMMV Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Vatican Vs Science: 'condoms don't stop hiv / AIDS'
- Original Message - From: Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 5:53 PM Subject: RE: Vatican Vs Science: 'condoms don't stop hiv / AIDS' Consider shining the light the other way. Why would those being consulted to not use condoms not be completely outraged by such statements? The fact is, those cultures that have the highest incidents of the disease, are those that don't believe condoms work. The Church, in this case, is merely reflecting the cultural beliefs of the afflicted countries. While I certainly disagree with the facts that the Catholic church are emphasizing; saying that the use of a condom will prevent the transmission of AIDS is clearly a false statement. It significantly lowers the probability of transmission; and should certainly be recommended for people who have unsafe sex, but it does prevent stop the transmission of AIDS any more than it prevent pregnancies. The only way to be sure one does not get AIDS is to only have sex in mutually monogamous relationships. That's a factual statement that the Catholic church emphasizes. Where I differ with them is in accepting the fact that many folks will have unsafe sex and its better to offer something that would lower the risk than it is to preach behaviors that, while they eliminate the risk, simply won't be followed. The higher incident of AIDS in Africa has to do with the lack of treatment for other venereal diseases. As a result, men often have open sores, through which they can become infected from sex with a woman. In the US, the lack of such open sores means that, to first order, only men are carriers. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
