Fight the Future: Houston Police wanna put Cameras in Your Home
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Police_Cameras.html Houston's police chief on Wednesday proposed placing surveillance cameras in apartment complexes, downtown streets, shopping malls and even private homes to fight crime during a shortage of police officers. I know a lot of people are concerned about Big Brother, but my response to that is, if you are not doing anything wrong, why should you worry about it? Chief Harold Hurtt told reporters Wednesday at a regular briefing. - This Constitution is likely to be administered for a course of years and then end in despotism... when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other. --Benjamin Franklin ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Fight the Future: Houston Police wanna put Cameras in Your Home
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Police_Cameras.html Houston's police chief on Wednesday proposed placing surveillance cameras in apartment complexes, downtown streets, shopping malls and even private homes to fight crime during a shortage of police officers. I know a lot of people are concerned about Big Brother, but my response to that is, if you are not doing anything wrong, why should you worry about it? Chief Harold Hurtt told reporters Wednesday at a regular briefing. The answer to that is obvious. We may be doing nothing wrong, but we may be doind something you don't like. Such as criticizing you or preparing to blow the whistle on one of your boys. Pat ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Fight the Future: Houston Police wanna put Cameras in Your Home
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 06:35:00 -0700, PAT MATHEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Police_Cameras.html Houston's police chief on Wednesday proposed placing surveillance cameras in apartment complexes, downtown streets, shopping malls and even private homes to fight crime during a shortage of police officers. I know a lot of people are concerned about Big Brother, but my response to that is, if you are not doing anything wrong, why should you worry about it? Chief Harold Hurtt told reporters Wednesday at a regular briefing. The answer to that is obvious. We may be doing nothing wrong, but we may be doind something you don't like. Such as criticizing you or preparing to blow the whistle on one of your boys. I've got no problem with cameras in _public_ places. Including inside the police stations and other government buildings. I was recently in a pair of minor accidents on the freeway. I got rear ended and then while I was pulling into the breakdown lane, I got hit by someone trying to go around me. The person that rear ended me took off in the wake of the second accident, and the highway patrolman got the details all wrong in the second accident and made me at fault. A video would have been a victory for the truth... and me. Cameras are getting cheap enough to use everywhere. Just ask our friends in the UK. But it's important that we keep the government honest - that's how we ward off the big brother syndrome. -- Doug TS maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Fight the Future: Houston Police wanna put Cameras in Your Home
- Original Message - From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 11:30 AM Subject: Re: Fight the Future: Houston Police wanna put Cameras in Your Home On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 06:35:00 -0700, PAT MATHEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Police_Cameras.html Houston's police chief on Wednesday proposed placing surveillance cameras in apartment complexes, downtown streets, shopping malls and even private homes to fight crime during a shortage of police officers. I know a lot of people are concerned about Big Brother, but my response to that is, if you are not doing anything wrong, why should you worry about it? Chief Harold Hurtt told reporters Wednesday at a regular briefing. The answer to that is obvious. We may be doing nothing wrong, but we may be doind something you don't like. Such as criticizing you or preparing to blow the whistle on one of your boys. I've got no problem with cameras in _public_ places. Including inside the police stations and other government buildings. I was recently in a pair of minor accidents on the freeway. I got rear ended and then while I was pulling into the breakdown lane, I got hit by someone trying to go around me. The person that rear ended me took off in the wake of the second accident, and the highway patrolman got the details all wrong in the second accident and made me at fault. A video would have been a victory for the truth... and me. Cameras are getting cheap enough to use everywhere. Just ask our friends in the UK. But it's important that we keep the government honest - that's how we ward off the big brother syndrome. The actuality of the situation is that the police and the Downtown management group are putting cameras on *Main Street, a busy thoroughfare with a new commuter train line that has been involved in more than a few traffic accidents and at least (IMS) one death. There is also a bit of small time crime to be considered. It is not really an infringement on rights since one cannot expect privacy on Main Street and there is a whole lot of discussion here about ways to keep the cameras from pointing in private directions. The controversy The Fool pointed at with his quote is a proposal (put forward by the police) that all new apartment complexes should be required to have cameras in public places (courtyards, parking lots, etc...) to help minimize the drag such dense residential facilities place on the PD. In Houston apt. complexes are the source of a good percentage of all police calls. But this proposal is simply an idea that is being thrown about at this time and is not yet before city council. There is certainly some concern for potential abuse, but the basic requests do not so far seem unreasonable. xponent Hometown Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
THE STEEP PRICE OF DEFEATING TERROR
THE STEEP PRICE OF DEFEATING TERROR a href= http://www.MelvinDurai.com/warcost.htm Web Column/a President Bush has asked Congress for $72.4 billion to fund the Global War on Terror through fiscal year 2006. About $65 billion will go toward the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, bringing total spending for the two wars to nearly $400 billion. That's a lot of money, folks, almost $1,000 for every man, woman, child, dog, cat and goldfish in America. I can't fathom spending $400 billion on two wars. I mean, wouldn't it be cheaper to just send Dick Cheney over there? The vice president is surely embarrassed about shooting his friend while quail hunting and eager for a chance to redeem himself. Drop him in the war zone, I say. You might be surprised what a man with motivation can do. General: Mr. Vice President, how did you do today? Cheney: Pretty good. I'm all out of ammunition. General: Great! What did you shoot? Cheney: Forty-five targets, including 23 barns, 15 sheds and seven trees. General: Good. I'll add them to the enemy casualty list. But what about the insurgents? Did you get any of them? Cheney: No, as soon as they saw me, the insurgents turned into outsurgents. They started running in all directions, yelling something like, 'It's the crazy guy who shot his friend. Imagine what he'll do to us.' I tried firing at them, but those darn barns kept getting in the way. The sheds and trees, too. General: Well, you'll do better tomorrow, I'm sure. Cheney: I hope so. If I keep hitting worthless objects, how's my firm going to get another rebuilding contract? Okay, maybe it wouldn't be such a good idea to send Cheney to Iraq. He can be far more useful in America, especially if he helps explain where all the money is going. According to a White House press release, The President is committed to giving our troops and commanders in the field the resources they need to fight and win the War on Terror. I don't know about you, but I'm looking forward to the day when President Bush can declare victory over terror. I'm going to be so elated when I see the New York Times headline that says, Terror surrenders, war over. But I can't help thinking that America can terrorize terror into submission without spending so much money. Here are just a few suggestions: ---Put democracy to work. Bush needs to get on the phone with King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia and others: We're bringing democracy to Iraq and if you don't start helping us with the costs, we'll bring it to you too. I mean, what good is democracy if you can't threaten people with it? ---Create a real coalition. America sent 130,000 soldiers to Iraq, while Kazakhstan sent a dozen nightclub bouncers. Bush allowed Mexico to get away with sending not a single soldier, though he could have easily rounded up a platoon on a street corner in L.A. ---Check the math. When you spend $400 billion, you can afford to hire a few auditors to make sure no one is getting rich off the war, except those approved by the president. I wish some of the soldiers were getting rich, because many of them come from poor families. Rich kids don't go to war -- they go to Congress. And they never know what it's like to be in a war, never know what it's like to be shot at, except of course when they go hunting with Cheney. ** xponent Beautify America _ Get Your Back Waxed Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Cold Pictures and more
Andrew, Benjamin, Doug et al -- So, at least you're warm. Your ger looks quite cozy -- right down to the nice fabric on the walls =+)). Going *between* the ger (or is it gers) would be something else. The Engineer was quite intrigued by your whole set up, Mining Engineering being his first certification (Environmental being his second). We want to know just how this 'water bore' works. He had a different idea than I did... And where do the horses get their water? What a neat thing to do. We used to do the more adventurous type of job postings, but not ever as exotic as Mongolia. I hope you're not there long enough to get prairie fever. Benjamin -- I missed the GMA piece, as I'm on the digest and didn't get it until after the program aired. I couldn't get the video to d/l, either. I'm always interested in new neuro developments. Does this scan work on brain stem and spinal cord as well? Does it help as a dx tool for surgery? Doug -- We're all fine here. It's been well below freezing for *TWO* days, and we're just not used to that here in Cascadia. The Engineer is out now hooking a light bulb up to heat the birdbath, so the wild things will be able to drink. (We just had a very annoyed Steller Jay standing on the ice telling us something was wrong). The grandson is too wonderful for words. I wish I had a way to post y'all a picture so you could see the worlds smartest, most trustworthy. most loyal, most helpful , friendliest, most courteous , kindest, most obedient, most cheerful, most thrifty, bravest, cleanest and most reverent baby. We look after him two days a week while mom goes to pottery and to work out. I hadn't forgotten how much work babies were, but what I did misestimate was my own stamina -- I am very happy to see my daughter show up in the afternoons. At seven months, he's getting a little hard on the back. Hats off to all younger moms out there --- Julia! Amities, Jo Anne [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Cold Pictures and more
Jo Anne wrote: Doug -- We're all fine here. It's been well below freezing for *TWO* days, and we're just not used to that here in Cascadia. The Engineer is out now hooking a light bulb up to heat the birdbath, so the wild things will be able to drink. (We just had a very annoyed Steller Jay standing on the ice telling us something was wrong). Yea we got snow in the hills here yesterday, but I've lived where it really gets cold so a few days in the thirties doesn't impress me. Why, when I was a kid... Oh, sorry, nevermind. The grandson is too wonderful for words. I wish I had a way to post y'all a picture so you could see the worlds smartest, most trustworthy. most loyal, most helpful , friendliest, most courteous , kindest, most obedient, most cheerful, most thrifty, bravest, cleanest and most reverent baby. Geeze, he'll be an eagle scout by next week! We look after him two days a week while mom goes to pottery and to work out. I hadn't forgotten how much work babies were, but what I did misestimate was my own stamina -- I am very happy to see my daughter show up in the afternoons. At seven months, he's getting a little hard on the back. Hats off to all younger moms out there --- Julia! We've taken care of Ethan many times already and he's very easy to take care of. He has a smile for just about everyone and rarely cries. I really think that Granparenting is one of lifes big payoffs! -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Cold Pictures and more
We've taken care of Ethan many times already and he's very easy to take care of. He has a smile for just about everyone and rarely cries. I really think that Granparenting is one of lifes big payoffs! May be. My dad is enjoying our offspring...6 weeks old on Fri and counting... Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: AER's ASU-57 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 2/17/2006 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Cold Pictures and more
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 00:11:07 -0500, Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've taken care of Ethan many times already and he's very easy to take care of. He has a smile for just about everyone and rarely cries. I really think that Granparenting is one of lifes big payoffs! May be. My dad is enjoying our offspring...6 weeks old on Fri and counting... Damon. Congratulations, Damon! -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
