Re: Does the NYT EVER print anything that isn't dogawful tripe or Propaganda?
From: Max Battcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool wrote: [snipped nice list] Sluggy Freelance is my main daily strip. I would add: VGCats (.com) to your list; nothing like weird video game cats. Kevin and Kell (herdthinners.com) was started by a syndicated print comic artist and is purely online. Girl Genius (girlgeniusonline.com) is really interested because it started as a published cult series (as in comic store comic) and is going online because Studio Foglio thinks its an easier format (regardless of whether or not the business model is better). Also, some of the ones you mentioned (and a whole bunch more) can be summed up by pointing out the big Internet syndicates (comic hosts) such as Keenspot and Drunk-Duck. Because I'm not pimping those comics or services? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Does the NYT EVER print anything that isn't dogawful tripe or Propaganda?
The Fool wrote: [snipped nice list] Sluggy Freelance is my main daily strip. I would add: VGCats (.com) to your list; nothing like weird video game cats. Kevin and Kell (herdthinners.com) was started by a syndicated print comic artist and is purely online. Girl Genius (girlgeniusonline.com) is really interested because it started as a published cult series (as in comic store comic) and is going online because Studio Foglio thinks its an easier format (regardless of whether or not the business model is better). Also, some of the ones you mentioned (and a whole bunch more) can be summed up by pointing out the big Internet syndicates (comic hosts) such as Keenspot and Drunk-Duck. -- --Max Battcher-- http://www.worldmaker.net/ I have no idea what I'm doing. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Does the NYT EVER print anything that isn't dogawful tripe or Propaganda?
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool wrote: Their are dozens of free / daily / archived webcomix. A few of the better ones: Pewfell (older behind barrier): http://www.moderntales.com/series.php?name=pewfell5view=current Sluggy Freelance: http://www.sluggy.com/ Schlock Mercenary: http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ Errant Story http://www.errantstory.com/ User Friendly: http://www.userfriendly.org/static/ Something Positive: http://www.somethingpositive.net/index.html Angel Moxie: http://www.venisproductions.com/angelmoxie/index.html Goats: http://www.goats.com/ Girly: http://go-girly.com/ Overboard: http://www.ucomics.com/overboard/index.phtml Pearls Before Swine: http://www.dilbert.com/comics/pearls/index.html Little Dee: http://www.littledee.net/ Fighting Words: http://www.comicssherpa.com/site/feature?uc_comic=csnav I Drew This: http://idrewthis.org/index.html The Circle Weave (older behind barrier): http://www.circleweave.com/ Exploitation Now (Ended): http://www.exploitationnow.com/ Bleedman (PPG): http://bleedman.snafu-comics.com/?strip_id=0 (It's not like they aren't making PPGZ in Japan...) Sinfest: http://www.sinfest.net/ PvP: http://www.pvponline.com/ I like Sluggy, UF PVP. (Not that I've been keeping up with them very well) Hilight the Archives, all of which they have. I created a Proxomitron filter to put the larger User Friendly from the UF Archive on the front page... Pearls is in my newspaper, and I keep up with that one that way. There have been some really good zots there lately Not everyone gets it their paper. It's nothing great. Not like Something Positive, which is great. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Does the NYT EVER print anything that isn't dogawful tripe or Propaganda?
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] In answer to the subject line -- um, no? :) I'm guessing that's your belief, anyway. Nice hook. The Fool wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/17/books/17comi.html?ex=1281931200en=0 8e3777cc4943486ei=5090partner=geartestemc=rss http://tinyurl.com/djskq (I had problems with a cut URL. I figure someone else might have, as well.) THese shortlinks don't show the original source of the URL. As I read the article, I was wondering, On what planet is this woman accessing online comics? My favorites were not mentioned in the least. http://www.websnark.com/archives/2005/08/wow_i_get_to_tr.html ... The effect is an article on webcomics written by someone who hasn't actually read the comics in question. (She mentions only one webcomic unreservedly positively -- Count Your Sheep. Which she could read for free. Nice to know the Times won't spring for a three dollar one month subscription for her expense account. And also nice to know that she didn't bother to check around for... oh, I don't know... Webcomics resources to use in research.) Of course, in talking about making money -- and the failures of webcomics to fulfill that promise -- she manages to not talk about PvP, Penny Arcade, Sluggy Freelance, User Friendly, Ctrl-Alt-Del, Something Positive, or much of anything else. In other words, she doesn't know the first thing about the debate of commercial success in webcomics, much less the topic. She doesn't know the Keenspot model versus Modern Tales versus Blank Label versus independent sites. She doesn't know the argument of support versus merchandising support versus subscription versus micropayments. And it's not like it's hard to find evidence of those debates. Just going to Scott McCloud's website would do that. ... Comments: ... For the record, Sarah Boxer asked for, and received, free press passes to all the Modern Tales sites while she was writing this article. And then proceeded to treat the subscription wall as an impenetrable barrier anyway. ... On a hunch, I did a little research on this Sarah Boxer person and it turns out that she's a print cartoonist. ... Yeah. What they said. I'm wondering if her bias totally got in her way of writing something *intelligent* on the topic. :P Thanks for pointing this out to us! Their are dozens of free / daily / archived webcomix. A few of the better ones: Pewfell (older behind barrier): http://www.moderntales.com/series.php?name=pewfell5view=current Sluggy Freelance: http://www.sluggy.com/ Schlock Mercenary: http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ Errant Story http://www.errantstory.com/ User Friendly: http://www.userfriendly.org/static/ Something Positive: http://www.somethingpositive.net/index.html Angel Moxie: http://www.venisproductions.com/angelmoxie/index.html Goats: http://www.goats.com/ Girly: http://go-girly.com/ Overboard: http://www.ucomics.com/overboard/index.phtml Pearls Before Swine: http://www.dilbert.com/comics/pearls/index.html Little Dee: http://www.littledee.net/ Fighting Words: http://www.comicssherpa.com/site/feature?uc_comic=csnav I Drew This: http://idrewthis.org/index.html The Circle Weave (older behind barrier): http://www.circleweave.com/ Exploitation Now (Ended): http://www.exploitationnow.com/ Bleedman (PPG): http://bleedman.snafu-comics.com/?strip_id=0 (It's not like they aren't making PPGZ in Japan...) Sinfest: http://www.sinfest.net/ PvP: http://www.pvponline.com/ Etc. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Does the NYT EVER print anything that isn't dogawful tripe or Propaganda?
The Fool wrote: From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] In answer to the subject line -- um, no? :) I'm guessing that's your belief, anyway. Nice hook. The Fool wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/17/books/17comi.html?ex=1281931200en=0 8e3777cc4943486ei=5090partner=geartestemc=rss http://tinyurl.com/djskq (I had problems with a cut URL. I figure someone else might have, as well.) THese shortlinks don't show the original source of the URL. I like to post both, when reasonable. The source is there, and the easily-clickable thing is there. [massive snippage] Their are dozens of free / daily / archived webcomix. A few of the better ones: Pewfell (older behind barrier): http://www.moderntales.com/series.php?name=pewfell5view=current Sluggy Freelance: http://www.sluggy.com/ Schlock Mercenary: http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ Errant Story http://www.errantstory.com/ User Friendly: http://www.userfriendly.org/static/ Something Positive: http://www.somethingpositive.net/index.html Angel Moxie: http://www.venisproductions.com/angelmoxie/index.html Goats: http://www.goats.com/ Girly: http://go-girly.com/ Overboard: http://www.ucomics.com/overboard/index.phtml Pearls Before Swine: http://www.dilbert.com/comics/pearls/index.html Little Dee: http://www.littledee.net/ Fighting Words: http://www.comicssherpa.com/site/feature?uc_comic=csnav I Drew This: http://idrewthis.org/index.html The Circle Weave (older behind barrier): http://www.circleweave.com/ Exploitation Now (Ended): http://www.exploitationnow.com/ Bleedman (PPG): http://bleedman.snafu-comics.com/?strip_id=0 (It's not like they aren't making PPGZ in Japan...) Sinfest: http://www.sinfest.net/ PvP: http://www.pvponline.com/ I like Sluggy, UF PVP. (Not that I've been keeping up with them very well) Pearls is in my newspaper, and I keep up with that one that way. There have been some really good zots there lately Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Does the NYT EVER print anything that isn't dogawful tripe or Propaganda?
In answer to the subject line -- um, no? :) I'm guessing that's your belief, anyway. Nice hook. The Fool wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/17/books/17comi.html?ex=1281931200en=0 8e3777cc4943486ei=5090partner=geartestemc=rss http://tinyurl.com/djskq (I had problems with a cut URL. I figure someone else might have, as well.) As I read the article, I was wondering, On what planet is this woman accessing online comics? My favorites were not mentioned in the least. http://www.websnark.com/archives/2005/08/wow_i_get_to_tr.html ... The effect is an article on webcomics written by someone who hasn't actually read the comics in question. (She mentions only one webcomic unreservedly positively -- Count Your Sheep. Which she could read for free. Nice to know the Times won't spring for a three dollar one month subscription for her expense account. And also nice to know that she didn't bother to check around for... oh, I don't know... Webcomics resources to use in research.) Of course, in talking about making money -- and the failures of webcomics to fulfill that promise -- she manages to not talk about PvP, Penny Arcade, Sluggy Freelance, User Friendly, Ctrl-Alt-Del, Something Positive, or much of anything else. In other words, she doesn't know the first thing about the debate of commercial success in webcomics, much less the topic. She doesn't know the Keenspot model versus Modern Tales versus Blank Label versus independent sites. She doesn't know the argument of support versus merchandising support versus subscription versus micropayments. And it's not like it's hard to find evidence of those debates. Just going to Scott McCloud's website would do that. ... Comments: ... For the record, Sarah Boxer asked for, and received, free press passes to all the Modern Tales sites while she was writing this article. And then proceeded to treat the subscription wall as an impenetrable barrier anyway. ... On a hunch, I did a little research on this Sarah Boxer person and it turns out that she's a print cartoonist. ... Yeah. What they said. I'm wondering if her bias totally got in her way of writing something *intelligent* on the topic. :P Thanks for pointing this out to us! Julia who should be doing something else right now ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Does the NYT EVER print anything that isn't dogawful tripe or Propaganda?
At 01:54 PM Friday 8/19/2005, The Fool wrote: Just going to Scott McCloud's website would do that. Is the server for that web site located on the _Starduster_? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
