Re: [ccp4bb] Error in assignment of symmetry operators

2017-06-20 Thread radu
Dear Gerard,

Thank you for the answer, absolutely not a problem! I am very grateful for all
the great software from Global Phasing and I know that support is great.
Enjoying the STARANISO server for example atm.

Best wishes,

Radu


> Dear Radu,
>  Nice to know that your problem is sorted and that you are pleased
> with the results you are getting from BUSTER.
>  Clemens had drafted an answer along exactly the same lines and
> circulated it around the team for comments, but we were momentarily
distracted by something else and the CCP4BB experts beat us to it :-)
>  I should say that this is not a representative case: we usually
> respond quickly and spare no pains to give users the help they need.
>  With best wishes,
>   Gerard.
> --
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 05:02:24PM +0100, r...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote:
>> Hi Robbie, Pietro,
>> Thank you for the quick replies! I tried this before, but must have messed up
>> things afterwards somehow... Anyway, tried again and now Buster works
beautifully. Indeed the molecule was a couple of unit cells away from the
origin, as the error message suggests... My fault.
>> Best wishes,
>> Radu
>> > Hi Radu,
>> > This may be caused by the coordinates being too many unit cells away from
>> the
>> > origin. In COOT you can easily ?symmetry move coordinates here?  to a
>> place
>> closer to the origin.
>> > Hope this helps,
>> > Robbie
>> > Sent from my Windows 10 phone
>> > Van: r...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk<mailto:r...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
>> > Verzonden: dinsdag 20 juni 2017 16:14
>> > Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
>> > Onderwerp: [ccp4bb] Error in assignment of symmetry operators Dear All,
>> > Apologies for posting a Buster-related question to this list, the
>> buster-discuss one seems less active :-) I am trying to run a refinement job,
>> > and hit the following problem:
>> > ERROR : [run_buster-0046] unable to create initial SCREEN
>> > output with gelly - see
>> > refine/01-BUSTER/Cycle-1/gelly_screen.log)
>> > Looking in the gelly_screen.log, the problem reported is:
>> >  Getting symmetry operators from TNT.
>> >  gelly will classify symmetry using pdb-like convention:
>> >   SYMOP   SYMMETRY
>> >  NNNMMM   OPERATOR
>> >1555   X,Y,Z
>> >2555   -X,Y,-Z
>> >3555   1/2+X,1/2+Y,Z
>> >4555   1/2-X,1/2+Y,-Z
>> >  where NNN -> operator number and MMM -> translation vector
>> > *** ERROR in assignment of symmetry operators NNNMMM (M<1 or M>9). ***
>> ERROR
>> maybe the molecules are far away from the origin.
>> > I tried everything I could think of to fix this, no luck so far I'm
>> probably making a very silly mistake... But would be very grateful for any
advice!
>> > Best wishes,
>> > Radu
>> > PS: space group is C2
>> > --
>> > Radu Aricescu
>> > MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
>> > Francis Crick Avenue
>> > Cambridge Biomedical Campus
>> > Cambridge CB2 0QH, U.K.
>> > tel: +44-(0)1223-267049
>> > fax: +44-(0)1223-268305
>> > www: http://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/group-leaders/a-to-g/radu-aricescu


Re: [ccp4bb] Error in assignment of symmetry operators

2017-06-20 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Radu,

 Nice to know that your problem is sorted and that you are pleased
with the results you are getting from BUSTER.

 Clemens had drafted an answer along exactly the same lines and
circulated it around the team for comments, but we were momentarily
distracted by something else and the CCP4BB experts beat us to it :-) 

 I should say that this is not a representative case: we usually
respond quickly and spare no pains to give users the help they need.


 With best wishes,
 
  Gerard.

--
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 05:02:24PM +0100, r...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote:
> Hi Robbie, Pietro,
> 
> Thank you for the quick replies! I tried this before, but must have messed up
> things afterwards somehow... Anyway, tried again and now Buster works
> beautifully. Indeed the molecule was a couple of unit cells away from the
> origin, as the error message suggests... My fault.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Radu
> 
> 
> > Hi Radu,
> > This may be caused by the coordinates being too many unit cells away from
> the
> > origin. In COOT you can easily ?symmetry move coordinates here?  to a place
> closer to the origin.
> > Hope this helps,
> > Robbie
> > Sent from my Windows 10 phone
> > Van: r...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk<mailto:r...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
> > Verzonden: dinsdag 20 juni 2017 16:14
> > Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
> > Onderwerp: [ccp4bb] Error in assignment of symmetry operators
> > Dear All,
> > Apologies for posting a Buster-related question to this list, the
> buster-discuss one seems less active :-) I am trying to run a refinement
> job,
> > and hit the following problem:
> > ERROR : [run_buster-0046] unable to create initial SCREEN
> > output with gelly - see
> > refine/01-BUSTER/Cycle-1/gelly_screen.log)
> > Looking in the gelly_screen.log, the problem reported is:
> >  Getting symmetry operators from TNT.
> >  gelly will classify symmetry using pdb-like convention:
> >   SYMOP   SYMMETRY
> >  NNNMMM   OPERATOR
> >1555   X,Y,Z
> >2555   -X,Y,-Z
> >3555   1/2+X,1/2+Y,Z
> >4555   1/2-X,1/2+Y,-Z
> >  where NNN -> operator number and MMM -> translation vector
> > *** ERROR in assignment of symmetry operators NNNMMM (M<1 or M>9). *** ERROR
> maybe the molecules are far away from the origin.
> > I tried everything I could think of to fix this, no luck so far I'm
> probably making a very silly mistake... But would be very grateful for any
> advice!
> > Best wishes,
> > Radu
> > PS: space group is C2
> > --
> > Radu Aricescu
> > MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
> > Francis Crick Avenue
> > Cambridge Biomedical Campus
> > Cambridge CB2 0QH, U.K.
> > tel: +44-(0)1223-267049
> > fax: +44-(0)1223-268305
> > www: http://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/group-leaders/a-to-g/radu-aricescu


Re: [ccp4bb] Error in assignment of symmetry operators

2017-06-20 Thread radu
Hi Robbie, Pietro,

Thank you for the quick replies! I tried this before, but must have messed up
things afterwards somehow... Anyway, tried again and now Buster works
beautifully. Indeed the molecule was a couple of unit cells away from the
origin, as the error message suggests... My fault.

Best wishes,

Radu


> Hi Radu,
> This may be caused by the coordinates being too many unit cells away from
the
> origin. In COOT you can easily ‘symmetry move coordinates here’  to a place
closer to the origin.
> Hope this helps,
> Robbie
> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
> Van: r...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk<mailto:r...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
> Verzonden: dinsdag 20 juni 2017 16:14
> Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
> Onderwerp: [ccp4bb] Error in assignment of symmetry operators
> Dear All,
> Apologies for posting a Buster-related question to this list, the
buster-discuss one seems less active :-) I am trying to run a refinement
job,
> and hit the following problem:
> ERROR : [run_buster-0046] unable to create initial SCREEN
> output with gelly - see
> refine/01-BUSTER/Cycle-1/gelly_screen.log)
> Looking in the gelly_screen.log, the problem reported is:
>  Getting symmetry operators from TNT.
>  gelly will classify symmetry using pdb-like convention:
>   SYMOP   SYMMETRY
>  NNNMMM   OPERATOR
>1555   X,Y,Z
>2555   -X,Y,-Z
>3555   1/2+X,1/2+Y,Z
>4555   1/2-X,1/2+Y,-Z
>  where NNN -> operator number and MMM -> translation vector
> *** ERROR in assignment of symmetry operators NNNMMM (M<1 or M>9). *** ERROR
maybe the molecules are far away from the origin.
> I tried everything I could think of to fix this, no luck so far I'm
probably making a very silly mistake... But would be very grateful for any
advice!
> Best wishes,
> Radu
> PS: space group is C2
> --
> Radu Aricescu
> MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
> Francis Crick Avenue
> Cambridge Biomedical Campus
> Cambridge CB2 0QH, U.K.
> tel: +44-(0)1223-267049
> fax: +44-(0)1223-268305
> www: http://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/group-leaders/a-to-g/radu-aricescu


Re: [ccp4bb] Error in assignment of symmetry operators

2017-06-20 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Radu,



This may be caused by the coordinates being too many unit cells away from the 
origin. In COOT you can easily ‘symmetry move coordinates here’  to a place 
closer to the origin.



Hope this helps,

Robbie



Sent from my Windows 10 phone



Van: r...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk<mailto:r...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
Verzonden: dinsdag 20 juni 2017 16:14
Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Onderwerp: [ccp4bb] Error in assignment of symmetry operators



Dear All,

Apologies for posting a Buster-related question to this list, the
buster-discuss one seems less active :-) I am trying to run a refinement job,
and hit the following problem:

ERROR : [run_buster-0046] unable to create initial SCREEN
output with gelly - see
refine/01-BUSTER/Cycle-1/gelly_screen.log)

Looking in the gelly_screen.log, the problem reported is:

 Getting symmetry operators from TNT.
 gelly will classify symmetry using pdb-like convention:
  SYMOP   SYMMETRY
 NNNMMM   OPERATOR
   1555   X,Y,Z
   2555   -X,Y,-Z
   3555   1/2+X,1/2+Y,Z
   4555   1/2-X,1/2+Y,-Z
 where NNN -> operator number and MMM -> translation vector

*** ERROR in assignment of symmetry operators NNNMMM (M<1 or M>9).
*** ERROR maybe the molecules are far away from the origin.

I tried everything I could think of to fix this, no luck so far I'm
probably making a very silly mistake... But would be very grateful for any
advice!

Best wishes,

Radu
PS: space group is C2

--
Radu Aricescu
MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
Francis Crick Avenue
Cambridge Biomedical Campus
Cambridge CB2 0QH, U.K.
tel: +44-(0)1223-267049
fax: +44-(0)1223-268305
www: http://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/group-leaders/a-to-g/radu-aricescu


[ccp4bb] Error in assignment of symmetry operators

2017-06-20 Thread radu
Dear All,

Apologies for posting a Buster-related question to this list, the
buster-discuss one seems less active :-) I am trying to run a refinement job,
and hit the following problem:

ERROR : [run_buster-0046] unable to create initial SCREEN
output with gelly - see
refine/01-BUSTER/Cycle-1/gelly_screen.log)

Looking in the gelly_screen.log, the problem reported is:

 Getting symmetry operators from TNT.
 gelly will classify symmetry using pdb-like convention:
  SYMOP   SYMMETRY
 NNNMMM   OPERATOR
   1555   X,Y,Z
   2555   -X,Y,-Z
   3555   1/2+X,1/2+Y,Z
   4555   1/2-X,1/2+Y,-Z
 where NNN -> operator number and MMM -> translation vector

*** ERROR in assignment of symmetry operators NNNMMM (M<1 or M>9).
*** ERROR maybe the molecules are far away from the origin.

I tried everything I could think of to fix this, no luck so far I'm
probably making a very silly mistake... But would be very grateful for any
advice!

Best wishes,

Radu
PS: space group is C2

-- 
Radu Aricescu
MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
Francis Crick Avenue
Cambridge Biomedical Campus
Cambridge CB2 0QH, U.K.
tel: +44-(0)1223-267049
fax: +44-(0)1223-268305
www: http://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/group-leaders/a-to-g/radu-aricescu