Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
One weird thing I noticed when installing Dreamweaver CC: it actually stopped mid-install and made me shut down my ColdFusion 10 services before I could proceed any further. If ColdFusion is no longer supported in DW, why would it be checking for and stopping if ColdFusion is running? -Carl V. On 6/18/2013 10:07 AM, Mike K wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356013 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
Perhsps there are hidden features tgst are disabled by default. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk On 19 Jun 2013 16:16, Carl Von Stetten vonner.li...@vonner.net wrote: One weird thing I noticed when installing Dreamweaver CC: it actually stopped mid-install and made me shut down my ColdFusion 10 services before I could proceed any further. If ColdFusion is no longer supported in DW, why would it be checking for and stopping if ColdFusion is running? -Carl V. On 6/18/2013 10:07 AM, Mike K wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356015 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
Relevant: http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/open-coldfusion-dreamweaver-cc.html ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356019 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355967 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
Apparently that is the case. https://twitter.com/AlexHubner/status/342704099806023682 G! On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355969 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
sadly this is true, they have dropped CF support in DW, you have to buy CFBuilder now if you want a CF IDE. Very annoying as I liked DW On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355970 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
FWIW, they still sell a CF-enabled IDE: http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-builder.html And you can, of course, still use DW for HTML/CSS/JS/etc. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.comwrote: Apparently that is the case. https://twitter.com/AlexHubner/status/342704099806023682 G! On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355971 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver user. I would never want to use Dreamweaver to write server side code. I say leave Dreamweaver to designers. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: sadly this is true, they have dropped CF support in DW, you have to buy CFBuilder now if you want a CF IDE. Very annoying as I liked DW On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355972 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
Um, no, you don't have to buy ColdFusion Builder. There is a free edition. And yes - we've already announced plans for an update. So - there ya go. No need to panic - again - right? On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver user. I would never want to use Dreamweaver to write server side code. I say leave Dreamweaver to designers. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: sadly this is true, they have dropped CF support in DW, you have to buy CFBuilder now if you want a CF IDE. Very annoying as I liked DW On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355973 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
I thought you could get a free version of CFBuilder?? Hence the stopping of support in dw Regards Mark Drew Sent from a mobile device On 18 Jun 2013, at 18:59, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver user. I would never want to use Dreamweaver to write server side code. I say leave Dreamweaver to designers. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: sadly this is true, they have dropped CF support in DW, you have to buy CFBuilder now if you want a CF IDE. Very annoying as I liked DW On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355974 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
Details on free version of ColdFusion Builder: http://cfdocyard.blogspot.com/2011/05/coldfusion-builder-express-edition-free.html Note this is from two years ago. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.comwrote: Um, no, you don't have to buy ColdFusion Builder. There is a free edition. And yes - we've already announced plans for an update. So - there ya go. No need to panic - again - right? On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.comwrote: I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver user. I would never want to use Dreamweaver to write server side code. I say leave Dreamweaver to designers. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: sadly this is true, they have dropped CF support in DW, you have to buy CFBuilder now if you want a CF IDE. Very annoying as I liked DW On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355975 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
most developers do have to do layout work as well, even if they have been provided with a ready made design, they usually have to then convert that design into HTML and then insert dynamic content etc. I don;t know many devs who are like you and only ever write server side code and never ever do any design or layout at all. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver user. I would never want to use Dreamweaver to write server side code. I say leave Dreamweaver to designers. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: sadly this is true, they have dropped CF support in DW, you have to buy CFBuilder now if you want a CF IDE. Very annoying as I liked DW On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355976 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
Can you install the ColdFusion tags MXP file in CC. Would that add support or only the tag lib? On 6/18/2013 10:59 AM, Wil Genovese wrote: I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver user. I would never want to use Dreamweaver to write server side code. I say leave Dreamweaver to designers. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: sadly this is true, they have dropped CF support in DW, you have to buy CFBuilder now if you want a CF IDE. Very annoying as I liked DW On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355977 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
There is a conspicuous absence of CFBuilder amongst the applications that are available for download through the Creative Cloud application manager. Seems absurd that we'd have to pay extra for just this one product, when almost every other tool Adobe makes is offered with the subscription. FlashBuilder Premium is included, but not CFBuilder. Seriously? Talk about putting us between a rock and a hard place. -Michael -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:58 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really? FWIW, they still sell a CF-enabled IDE: http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-builder.html And you can, of course, still use DW for HTML/CSS/JS/etc. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.comwrote: Apparently that is the case. https://twitter.com/AlexHubner/status/342704099806023682 G! On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355978 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
Two things ... 1: It's not just CF. I am hearing from ASP and ASP.NET users who are also wanting to know why DW won't open their files and where their server behaviors have gone. I'm trying to get details from the DW team. 2: I have to disagree with the assertion that CF Builder missing from CC downloads means anything ominous. ColdFusion is not a CC service, so it makes no sense to include CF Builder. Now, if you want to discuss the pros and cons of including CF as a CC service, that'll be a great discussion to have. But CF Builder without CF itself is kinda useless. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Patti, Michael [mailto:mpa...@sherwood-group.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:07 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really? There is a conspicuous absence of CFBuilder amongst the applications that are available for download through the Creative Cloud application manager. Seems absurd that we'd have to pay extra for just this one product, when almost every other tool Adobe makes is offered with the subscription. FlashBuilder Premium is included, but not CFBuilder. Seriously? Talk about putting us between a rock and a hard place. -Michael -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:58 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really? FWIW, they still sell a CF-enabled IDE: http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-builder.html And you can, of course, still use DW for HTML/CSS/JS/etc. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.comwrote: Apparently that is the case. https://twitter.com/AlexHubner/status/342704099806023682 G! On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355979 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
I think some of the complaining is from people that 'fear' learning an Eclipse style IDE. At the Twin Cities CFUG a week ago a few people expressed that they didn't want to learn such a complicated IDE. That and having to actually pay for software came up again. I did point out the free edition. I think there will always be a segment that wants free software that is simply a text type editor. That's fine, but others like myself do want a powerful IDE. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 18, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: Details on free version of ColdFusion Builder: http://cfdocyard.blogspot.com/2011/05/coldfusion-builder-express-edition-free.html Note this is from two years ago. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.comwrote: Um, no, you don't have to buy ColdFusion Builder. There is a free edition. And yes - we've already announced plans for an update. So - there ya go. No need to panic - again - right? On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.comwrote: I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver user. I would never want to use Dreamweaver to write server side code. I say leave Dreamweaver to designers. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: sadly this is true, they have dropped CF support in DW, you have to buy CFBuilder now if you want a CF IDE. Very annoying as I liked DW On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355980 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
Really? Because almost all of the ColdFusion developers I know code directly in cf and html. They do the layout through their code. I would rather have my efficient html/css be displayed than most of the stuff that is added by design software. Steve -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:04 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really? most developers do have to do layout work as well, even if they have been provided with a ready made design, they usually have to then convert that design into HTML and then insert dynamic content etc. I don;t know many devs who are like you and only ever write server side code and never ever do any design or layout at all. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355981 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
I'll point out that if you don't want to use an Eclipse-based IDE (I don't - I've been honest about that the last few years), you can get CFML support in Sublime (not free, but cheap), and in Brackets (free, and epic). On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: I think some of the complaining is from people that 'fear' learning an Eclipse style IDE. At the Twin Cities CFUG a week ago a few people expressed that they didn't want to learn such a complicated IDE. That and having to actually pay for software came up again. I did point out the free edition. I think there will always be a segment that wants free software that is simply a text type editor. That's fine, but others like myself do want a powerful IDE. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 18, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: Details on free version of ColdFusion Builder: http://cfdocyard.blogspot.com/2011/05/coldfusion-builder-express-edition-free.html Note this is from two years ago. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: Um, no, you don't have to buy ColdFusion Builder. There is a free edition. And yes - we've already announced plans for an update. So - there ya go. No need to panic - again - right? On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver user. I would never want to use Dreamweaver to write server side code. I say leave Dreamweaver to designers. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: sadly this is true, they have dropped CF support in DW, you have to buy CFBuilder now if you want a CF IDE. Very annoying as I liked DW On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355982 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Yeah, what Russ said. DW is great for UI development, JS and jQuery. Autosuggest for jQuery selectors and functions etc. I do boatloads of frontend JS and UI work and DW is by far my tool of choice for that. G! On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: most developers do have to do layout work as well, even if they have been provided with a ready made design, they usually have to then convert that design into HTML and then insert dynamic content etc. I don;t know many devs who are like you and only ever write server side code and never ever do any design or layout at all. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver user. I would never want to use Dreamweaver to write server side code. I say leave Dreamweaver to designers. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: sadly this is true, they have dropped CF support in DW, you have to buy CFBuilder now if you want a CF IDE. Very annoying as I liked DW On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355983 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
i downloaded cf10 extension for dreamweaver cs6 http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/downloads.html Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355984 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
Sublime Text 2 is a fine code oriented IDE for ColdFusion. There is a syntax package specifically for ColdFusion. Also great tools for HTML/JS/CSS web development. Cheap (free to try), small, fast and with excellent community support. Give it a try. You may like it. http://www.sublimetext.com/2 Best used with Package Control: http://wbond.net/sublime_packages/package_control CF Package: https://github.com/SublimeText/ColdFusion And a small, getting started tutorial: http://thecrumb.com/2011/09/29/sublime-text-2-and-coldfusion/ --rt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355985 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
so they do layout, which is all I said :-) I never at any point said all devs who do layout use DW and nothing else. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:12 PM, DURETTE, STEVEN J sd1...@att.com wrote: Really? Because almost all of the ColdFusion developers I know code directly in cf and html. They do the layout through their code. I would rather have my efficient html/css be displayed than most of the stuff that is added by design software. Steve -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:04 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really? most developers do have to do layout work as well, even if they have been provided with a ready made design, they usually have to then convert that design into HTML and then insert dynamic content etc. I don;t know many devs who are like you and only ever write server side code and never ever do any design or layout at all. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355986 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
2: I have to disagree with the assertion that CF Builder missing from CC downloads means anything ominous. ColdFusion is not a CC service, so it makes no sense to include CF Builder. Now, if you want to discuss the pros and cons of including CF as a CC service, that'll be a great discussion to have. But CF Builder without CF itself is kinda useless. --- Ben There are something like 23 apps included with the Creative Cloud subscription, and it seems like Adobe is adding more all the time. I use three of these on a semi-regular basis (DW, Flash Pro, and Photoshop), and have no use for most of the others; but they're there for me if I need them. Is the dividing line between the Creative Cloud and everything else the fact that none of those programs rely on a server-side programming language? If so, that seems pretty arbitrary, since everything a web developer does depends on a server-side *something*. Nothing we do in DW really 'works' without a web server (at a minimum). Plus, if Adobe wants to keep developers using CF, what's the downside in including CFBuilder as part of the subscription? If DW CC drops support for Coldfusion, but keeps it for PHP (and I'm assuming it does), isn't that just undercutting Adobe's own position? I happen to like CFBuilder, and use the free version on a regular basis, but a colleague (and a very talented CF Developer) prefers DW, even though I've tried to convince her to use CFBuilder. Up 'til now, DW has worked for her, as it has for many other CF developers. Why cut those people off by forcing them to either a) Pony up $299 for a product they don't particularly like, b) look elsewhere (like Sublime or Brackets, as Ray suggested), or c) Hand-code without the benefit of a modern IDE. Plus, if you get enough people to download CFBuilder out of sheer curiosity and then fall in love with CF, it can only help the community (and Adobe). So, why not include CFBuilder as part of the Creative Cloud suite? -Michael -Original Message- From: Patti, Michael [mailto:mpa...@sherwood-group.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:07 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really? There is a conspicuous absence of CFBuilder amongst the applications that are available for download through the Creative Cloud application manager. Seems absurd that we'd have to pay extra for just this one product, when almost every other tool Adobe makes is offered with the subscription. FlashBuilder Premium is included, but not CFBuilder. Seriously? Talk about putting us between a rock and a hard place. -Michael -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:58 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really? FWIW, they still sell a CF-enabled IDE: http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-builder.html And you can, of course, still use DW for HTML/CSS/JS/etc. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.comwrote: Apparently that is the case. https://twitter.com/AlexHubner/status/342704099806023682 G! On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355987 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
I had not seen this, but I'm not surprised either. One, Dreamweaver is really a designer's editor (IMO). I'm actually surprised that they continue to support any server side language, of any kind. Two, Adobe already has a first class ColdFusion file editor in ColdFusion Builder, built on Eclipse (an editor for those who write apps, and know what F5 can do in the browser) ;) Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 6/18/2013 1:07 PM, Mike K wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355988 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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because thousands of people like it and use it for development, that's why. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: I had not seen this, but I'm not surprised either. One, Dreamweaver is really a designer's editor (IMO). I'm actually surprised that they continue to support any server side language, of any kind. Two, Adobe already has a first class ColdFusion file editor in ColdFusion Builder, built on Eclipse (an editor for those who write apps, and know what F5 can do in the browser) ;) Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 6/18/2013 1:07 PM, Mike K wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355989 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
I'll admit that I usually do my design work in DW, or Photoshop (slice and dice when done), and then once I have my design the way I want it, I'll switch to code view and hand code my CF into the page(s). I find that to be much easier than hand coding the entire thing. Except CSS. I usually hand code CSS. I recently got back into using CF Builder though as I like it once I got used to it. I will still use DW or PS for layout and design, but then switch to builder for the real work. Bruce On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: I had not seen this, but I'm not surprised either. One, Dreamweaver is really a designer's editor (IMO). I'm actually surprised that they continue to support any server side language, of any kind. Two, Adobe already has a first class ColdFusion file editor in ColdFusion Builder, built on Eclipse (an editor for those who write apps, and know what F5 can do in the browser) ;) Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355990 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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+1 for Sublime, just started using it and love it for almost all file types. Well worth the small fee. Byron Mann Lead Engineer Architect HostMySite.com On Jun 18, 2013 2:15 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: I'll point out that if you don't want to use an Eclipse-based IDE (I don't - I've been honest about that the last few years), you can get CFML support in Sublime (not free, but cheap), and in Brackets (free, and epic). On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: I think some of the complaining is from people that 'fear' learning an Eclipse style IDE. At the Twin Cities CFUG a week ago a few people expressed that they didn't want to learn such a complicated IDE. That and having to actually pay for software came up again. I did point out the free edition. I think there will always be a segment that wants free software that is simply a text type editor. That's fine, but others like myself do want a powerful IDE. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 18, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: Details on free version of ColdFusion Builder: http://cfdocyard.blogspot.com/2011/05/coldfusion-builder-express-edition-free.html Note this is from two years ago. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: Um, no, you don't have to buy ColdFusion Builder. There is a free edition. And yes - we've already announced plans for an update. So - there ya go. No need to panic - again - right? On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver user. I would never want to use Dreamweaver to write server side code. I say leave Dreamweaver to designers. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: sadly this is true, they have dropped CF support in DW, you have to buy CFBuilder now if you want a CF IDE. Very annoying as I liked DW On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355993 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
I wrap design code around my CF all day long, in ColdFusion Builder. I might slice up a PSD, but I just take the html produced (typically from Fireworks, though that workflow's about to change), clean it up in CFB, and I'm done. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 6/18/2013 2:04 PM, Russ Michaels wrote: most developers do have to do layout work as well, even if they have been provided with a ready made design, they usually have to then convert that design into HTML and then insert dynamic content etc. I don;t know many devs who are like you and only ever write server side code and never ever do any design or layout at all. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver user. I would never want to use Dreamweaver to write server side code. I say leave Dreamweaver to designers. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: sadly this is true, they have dropped CF support in DW, you have to buy CFBuilder now if you want a CF IDE. Very annoying as I liked DW On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355994 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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+2 I now use it as my default text editor too, replaced notepad++ which was on 32bit and causes problems with certain files on windows (such applicationhost.config), sublime is 64bit so works with all. On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Byron Mann byronos...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for Sublime, just started using it and love it for almost all file types. Well worth the small fee. Byron Mann Lead Engineer Architect HostMySite.com On Jun 18, 2013 2:15 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: I'll point out that if you don't want to use an Eclipse-based IDE (I don't - I've been honest about that the last few years), you can get CFML support in Sublime (not free, but cheap), and in Brackets (free, and epic). On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: I think some of the complaining is from people that 'fear' learning an Eclipse style IDE. At the Twin Cities CFUG a week ago a few people expressed that they didn't want to learn such a complicated IDE. That and having to actually pay for software came up again. I did point out the free edition. I think there will always be a segment that wants free software that is simply a text type editor. That's fine, but others like myself do want a powerful IDE. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 18, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: Details on free version of ColdFusion Builder: http://cfdocyard.blogspot.com/2011/05/coldfusion-builder-express-edition-free.html Note this is from two years ago. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: Um, no, you don't have to buy ColdFusion Builder. There is a free edition. And yes - we've already announced plans for an update. So - there ya go. No need to panic - again - right? On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver user. I would never want to use Dreamweaver to write server side code. I say leave Dreamweaver to designers. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: sadly this is true, they have dropped CF support in DW, you have to buy CFBuilder now if you want a CF IDE. Very annoying as I liked DW On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or install an extension or something. Has anyone else found a fix for this? Or have I got it wrong? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355995 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Mark Drew mark.d...@gmail.com wrote: I thought you could get a free version of CFBuilder?? You can... go to ColdFusion Summit and you get a copy for free! http://cfsummit.adobeevents.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355996 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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The trial version becomes the Express Version after the trail period ends. Thus free. Sent from my iPad, enjoy the auto replace typos :) On Jun 18, 2013, at 8:23 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Mark Drew mark.d...@gmail.com wrote: I thought you could get a free version of CFBuilder?? You can... go to ColdFusion Summit and you get a copy for free! http://cfsummit.adobeevents.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355997 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
Again, I might be wrong here, but if you make ColdFusion sites, Dreamweaver CC is impossible to use, because you can't render any of the pages, use any of the responsive features, or the site management features, or use any live view. It wont even open the files.You can't use it to do the layout either unless you first do your page in html, then change them to .cfm pages. Dreamweaver, for me the principal reason to buy the CC subscription, is no longer any use for me so I might as well cancel my subscription. Now after about a decade of using various versions of Dreamweaver, I'm going to have to learn a whole new IDE. Adobe really have no clue how to support and market any server products. I said that when i saw what a fiasco the forms product was for them, now it looks like ColdFusion is 'deprecated' too. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Mark Drew mark.d...@gmail.com wrote: I thought you could get a free version of CFBuilder?? You can... go to ColdFusion Summit and you get a copy for free! http://cfsummit.adobeevents.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355998 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Patti, Michael mpa...@sherwood-group.comwrote: I happen to like CFBuilder, and use the free version on a regular basis, but a colleague (and a very talented CF Developer) prefers DW, even though I've tried to convince her to use CFBuilder. Up 'til now, DW has worked for her, as it has for many other CF developers. Why cut those people off by forcing them to either a) Pony up $299 for a product they don't particularly like, b) look elsewhere (like Sublime or Brackets, as Ray suggested), or c) Hand-code without the benefit of a modern IDE. Because I was like that as well until I sucked it up and bought into Eclipse / ColdFusion Builder. You get use to it, where DW is the odd kid on the block at that turning point. In an ORM world, ColdFusion Build can make a huge difference. I'm not sure if you eventually like it more but you just end up liking it to the point where it doesn't matter anymore and if you are in a team environment with SVN or GIT, it's fairly simple to keep a lot of projects in check. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355999 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe really have no clue how to support and market any server products. I said that when i saw what a fiasco the forms product was for them, now it looks like ColdFusion is 'deprecated' too. *sigh* Let me repeat myself. The ColdFusion team is working on 11. Right now. The ColdFusion team is working on an update to ColdFusion Builder. Right now. If you want to consider the removal of *file* support from one product as MORE IMPORTANT then the actual product itself - so be it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356000 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
Ray, removing CF File support from Dreamweaver means the WHOLE PRODUCT is useless in ColdFusion sites. You can't use any of the Dreamweaver product to develop a ColdFusion site because you can't open the files. Unless you build a whole bunch of static html pages, lay them out and design them and do all that stuff, THEN convert them to ColdFusion pages, Dreamweaver's useless. But not if you build them in the competitor's technology PHP instead. Why on earth would they retain support for the competitor, but not their own for pete's sake?? What sense does that make?? On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe really have no clue how to support and market any server products. I said that when i saw what a fiasco the forms product was for them, now it looks like ColdFusion is 'deprecated' too. *sigh* Let me repeat myself. The ColdFusion team is working on 11. Right now. The ColdFusion team is working on an update to ColdFusion Builder. Right now. If you want to consider the removal of *file* support from one product as MORE IMPORTANT then the actual product itself - so be it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356002 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
I should add, I'm not a DEVELOPER. I run a one-man shop - i am Designer, Coder, Developer, Strategist, Consultant, Hosting company, Domain Registry - I do the whole thing. I dont just cut code.I'm in a very large group of people who arent working in a development team. It makes no sense to be switching from application to application if the whole job can be done in the one. And here Adobe is, trumpeting the benefits of doing mobile development including PhoneGap in the new Dreamweaver, right there with all your other development, but at the same time other people in his team are telling me I have to chuck Dreamweaver out and change to something else that doesnt integrate with the workflow. Do you get the impression that i'm REALLY GRUMPY about this?? On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Ray, removing CF File support from Dreamweaver means the WHOLE PRODUCT is useless in ColdFusion sites. You can't use any of the Dreamweaver product to develop a ColdFusion site because you can't open the files. Unless you build a whole bunch of static html pages, lay them out and design them and do all that stuff, THEN convert them to ColdFusion pages, Dreamweaver's useless. But not if you build them in the competitor's technology PHP instead. Why on earth would they retain support for the competitor, but not their own for pete's sake?? What sense does that make?? On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe really have no clue how to support and market any server products. I said that when i saw what a fiasco the forms product was for them, now it looks like ColdFusion is 'deprecated' too. *sigh* Let me repeat myself. The ColdFusion team is working on 11. Right now. The ColdFusion team is working on an update to ColdFusion Builder. Right now. If you want to consider the removal of *file* support from one product as MORE IMPORTANT then the actual product itself - so be it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356003 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
On 6/18/2013 9:31 PM, Mike K wrote: Again, I might be wrong here, but if you make ColdFusion sites, Dreamweaver CC is impossible to use Not impossible. But Adobe, for one reason or another, has made it dificult... Do this: 1. Go to preferences 2. In the choose external applications section, hit the + and enter .cfm. In the editor window, select your Dreamweaver app and make it the primary editor. Done Note: if you enter .cfm in the Open in Code View list, you will ONLY be able to open CF pages in code view. Probably not what you want. They really need to just add a checkbox to choose Coldfusion if you want. Shouldn't have to jump through the hoops above. Write them a letter and bitch about it... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356004 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?
Thanks Les! That helps a lot.Jeez why didnt Adobe just say that instead of all that 'deprecated' business? Or as you say include an option to have .cfm and .cfc files associated with Dreamweaver, just like they did with .js and .css ?? Anyway - moving on now. a carer's work is never done. Thanks On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Les Mizzell lesm...@bellsouth.net wrote: On 6/18/2013 9:31 PM, Mike K wrote: Again, I might be wrong here, but if you make ColdFusion sites, Dreamweaver CC is impossible to use Not impossible. But Adobe, for one reason or another, has made it dificult... Do this: 1. Go to preferences 2. In the choose external applications section, hit the + and enter .cfm. In the editor window, select your Dreamweaver app and make it the primary editor. Done Note: if you enter .cfm in the Open in Code View list, you will ONLY be able to open CF pages in code view. Probably not what you want. They really need to just add a checkbox to choose Coldfusion if you want. Shouldn't have to jump through the hoops above. Write them a letter and bitch about it... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356006 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
