Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)
customers not to choose the CFMX platform as it is known to be unstable unstable? Here's what they say (quote from their reply to my post in their forums): If you are worried about uptime, you should not be on a Cold Fusion MX server. We keep emailing this to our customers, putting it in newsletters etc. but people are not understanding that this is a complete rewrite of the Macromedia Cold Fusion product, and there are many pieces that don't work properly at this time. It is somewhat compatible, and many features do work, but there are load issues and connectivity issues to ODBC. The biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in order to connect from JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as they did in Cold Fusion 4.5 before service packs. Do not jump into CFMX with production sites thinking everything will run smoothly and that you will get the uptime you would on a mature product like Cold Fusion 5.0. Jumping into CFMX is like getting in a prototype airplane you have no idea what could happen. This is a warning to all our customers because we DO NOT want to see our customers struggling to convert pieces of their applications at the last second or going crazy because CFMX isn't running like Cold Fusion 5.0. We have done our best to make CFMX stable, we have dropped the number of sites per server to around 75 sites per server just to help until they come out with service packs. Someone on the forum once said, they found it interesting when I talked about CF, implying that my comments are biased in some way, I want to assure all of our CF customers that is not the case. My comments are based on our knowledge and experience from monitoring the servers 24x7 and many hours and late nights with Macromedia support, and Microsoft support and the list goes on. We support many technologies and work very hard to do so above and beyond expectations and hope we enable our customers use them to their fullest potential. Now isn't that a mouthful. and have serious connectivity problems (page not found, browser hangups etc). never heard this. references to them from others but as for myself I'm having severe problems with two CFMX plans I've bought recently. what problems? Page not found errors, DNS problems (browesrs can't find the pages even though both PINGs and tracerts work all right), unresponsive site, Internal server errors, the whole shebang. The site in question, which is still a testing site, is at: http://www.hypography.net/ Tormod -- Tormod Guldvog [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the future is here today, what can possibly happen tomorrow? __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)
Well, I've not had a problem with CFMX on HostmySite.com :) -Original Message- From: Tormod Guldvog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 August 2002 09:30 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related) customers not to choose the CFMX platform as it is known to be unstable unstable? Here's what they say (quote from their reply to my post in their forums): If you are worried about uptime, you should not be on a Cold Fusion MX server. We keep emailing this to our customers, putting it in newsletters etc. but people are not understanding that this is a complete rewrite of the Macromedia Cold Fusion product, and there are many pieces that don't work properly at this time. It is somewhat compatible, and many features do work, but there are load issues and connectivity issues to ODBC. The biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in order to connect from JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as they did in Cold Fusion 4.5 before service packs. Do not jump into CFMX with production sites thinking everything will run smoothly and that you will get the uptime you would on a mature product like Cold Fusion 5.0. Jumping into CFMX is like getting in a prototype airplane... you have no idea what could happen. This is a warning to all our customers because we DO NOT want to see our customers struggling to convert pieces of their applications at the last second or going crazy because CFMX isn't running like Cold Fusion 5.0. We have done our best to make CFMX stable, we have dropped the number of sites per server to around 75 sites per server just to help until they come out with service packs. Someone on the forum once said, they found it interesting when I talked about CF, implying that my comments are biased in some way, I want to assure all of our CF customers that is not the case. My comments are based on our knowledge and experience from monitoring the servers 24x7 and many hours and late nights with Macromedia support, and Microsoft support and the list goes on. We support many technologies and work very hard to do so above and beyond expectations and hope we enable our customers use them to their fullest potential. Now isn't that a mouthful. and have serious connectivity problems (page not found, browser hangups etc). never heard this. references to them from others but as for myself I'm having severe problems with two CFMX plans I've bought recently. what problems? Page not found errors, DNS problems (browesrs can't find the pages even though both PINGs and tracerts work all right), unresponsive site, Internal server errors, the whole shebang. The site in question, which is still a testing site, is at: http://www.hypography.net/ Tormod -- Tormod Guldvog [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the future is here today, what can possibly happen tomorrow? __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)
Tormod Guldvog wrote: Here's what they say (quote from their reply to my post in their forums): If you are worried about uptime, you should not be on a Cold Fusion MX server. We keep emailing this to our customers, putting it in newsletters etc. but people are not understanding that this is a complete rewrite of the Macromedia Cold Fusion product, and there are many pieces that don't work properly at this time. It is somewhat compatible, and many features do work, but there are load issues and connectivity issues to ODBC. The biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in order to connect from JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as they did in Cold Fusion 4.5 before service packs. I would think that is exactly why MM writes in the docs JDBC Type 1 and 2 Drivers are not recommended. If the host sets up MX but does not follow this recommendation all bets are off. Jochem __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)
biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in order to connect from JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as they did in Cold Fusion 4.5 before service packs. actually bought those from data direct. i have no issues using the jdbc drivers, odbc bridges or whatever probably aren't a good idea with anything java based. Do not jump into CFMX with production sites thinking everything will run smoothly and well thats good advice for anything, test, test test again. This is a warning to all our customers because we DO NOT want to see our customers struggling to convert pieces of their applications at the last second or going crazy maybe if they their customers read the manual? because CFMX isn't running like Cold Fusion 5.0. We have done our best to make CFMX stable, we have dropped the number of sites per server to around 75 sites per server just to help until they come out with service packs. sounds good/bad. they maybe don't know cfmx too well, which is risky but then again you get fewer sites per box ;-) Someone on the forum once said, they found it interesting when I talked about CF, implying that my comments are biased in some way, I want to assure all of our CF customers that is not the case. My comments are based on our knowledge and experience from monitoring the servers 24x7 and many hours and late nights with Macromedia support, and Microsoft support and the list goes on. We support many technologies and work very hard to do so above and beyond expectations and hope we enable our customers use them to their fullest potential. Now isn't that a mouthful. and have serious connectivity problems (page not found, browser hangups etc). never heard this. references to them from others but as for myself I'm having severe problems with two CFMX plans I've bought recently. what problems? Page not found errors, DNS problems (browesrs can't find the pages even though both PINGs and tracerts work all right), unresponsive site, Internal server errors, the whole shebang. The site in question, which is still a testing site, is at: http://www.hypography.net/ Tormod -- Tormod Guldvog [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the future is here today, what can possibly happen tomorrow? __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)
http://www.mediatemple.net MX on Linux ! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 5:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related) biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in order to connect from JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as they did in Cold Fusion 4.5 before service packs. actually bought those from data direct. i have no issues using the jdbc drivers, odbc bridges or whatever probably aren't a good idea with anything java based. Do not jump into CFMX with production sites thinking everything will run smoothly and well thats good advice for anything, test, test test again. This is a warning to all our customers because we DO NOT want to see our customers struggling to convert pieces of their applications at the last second or going crazy maybe if they their customers read the manual? because CFMX isn't running like Cold Fusion 5.0. We have done our best to make CFMX stable, we have dropped the number of sites per server to around 75 sites per server just to help until they come out with service packs. sounds good/bad. they maybe don't know cfmx too well, which is risky but then again you get fewer sites per box ;-) Someone on the forum once said, they found it interesting when I talked about CF, implying that my comments are biased in some way, I want to assure all of our CF customers that is not the case. My comments are based on our knowledge and experience from monitoring the servers 24x7 and many hours and late nights with Macromedia support, and Microsoft support and the list goes on. We support many technologies and work very hard to do so above and beyond expectations and hope we enable our customers use them to their fullest potential. Now isn't that a mouthful. and have serious connectivity problems (page not found, browser hangups etc). never heard this. references to them from others but as for myself I'm having severe problems with two CFMX plans I've bought recently. what problems? Page not found errors, DNS problems (browesrs can't find the pages even though both PINGs and tracerts work all right), unresponsive site, Internal server errors, the whole shebang. The site in question, which is still a testing site, is at: http://www.hypography.net/ Tormod -- Tormod Guldvog [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the future is here today, what can possibly happen tomorrow? __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)
Now you mention it, I have encountered several page not found errors completely out of the blue with CFMX. Refresh the page and Voila, the problem disappears. But, I would have to agree that there is a problem here. And it has me very concerned considering we are planning a release of our new CFMX based site at the end of the month. I've also had other strange experiences with CFMX. It seems that sometimes settings change for no reason after a reboot. I really hope MM is aware (I'm sure they are) of some of these issues and that those service packs/patches will be released soon. Or does releasing Service Packs and/or patches so soon after a product launch look bad for MM? It would be nice to have some these issues listed as known bugs and timeliness for patches and/or workaounds. Is there anything like this on the MM site? Are there an CFMX success stories (high traffic sites?). Any body else care to share any 'bugs or issue's they have come across while using CFMX? I am getting really nervous about our Sept 1st launch. We already have hundreds of users on our site (pay site) and they would be none to happy if our web services started acting funny. It could inevitably cost us business. But at the same time, we have already delayed our publized launch date due to some technical issues, CFMX among them and may not be able to push the release date any further. We'll have to see how it goes I guess, and hope for the best (and load test!). It would be nice to see some CFMX sites with moderate to high traffic who are not having issues.That would be comforting. :) Brook Davies maracasmedia At 11:43 AM 13/08/02 +0200, you wrote: Tormod Guldvog wrote: Here's what they say (quote from their reply to my post in their forums): If you are worried about uptime, you should not be on a Cold Fusion MX server. We keep emailing this to our customers, putting it in newsletters etc. but people are not understanding that this is a complete rewrite of the Macromedia Cold Fusion product, and there are many pieces that don't work properly at this time. It is somewhat compatible, and many features do work, but there are load issues and connectivity issues to ODBC. The biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in order to connect from JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as they did in Cold Fusion 4.5 before service packs. I would think that is exactly why MM writes in the docs JDBC Type 1 and 2 Drivers are not recommended. If the host sets up MX but does not follow this recommendation all bets are off. Jochem __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)
Just out of curiosity Brook, have you noticed whether this has occurred directly on Netscape 4.7? We've seen this on 4.7 only. Upgrading to latest NN cured the problem. Actually, upgrading NN AT ALL cured the problem. Just my .02 | -Original Message- | From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:29 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related) | | | Now you mention it, I have encountered several page not found errors | completely out of the blue with CFMX. Refresh the page and Voila, the | problem disappears. But, I would have to agree that there is | a problem | here. And it has me very concerned considering we are | planning a release of | our new CFMX based site at the end of the month. | | I've also had other strange experiences with CFMX. It seems | that sometimes | settings change for no reason after a reboot. | | I really hope MM is aware (I'm sure they are) of some of | these issues and | that those service packs/patches will be released soon. Or | does releasing | Service Packs and/or patches so soon after a product launch | look bad for | MM? It would be nice to have some these issues listed as | known bugs and | timeliness for patches and/or workaounds. Is there anything | like this on | the MM site? | | Are there an CFMX success stories (high traffic sites?). Any | body else care | to share any 'bugs or issue's they have come across while | using CFMX? I am | getting really nervous about our Sept 1st launch. We already | have hundreds | of users on our site (pay site) and they would be none to | happy if our web | services started acting funny. It could inevitably cost us | business. But at | the same time, we have already delayed our publized launch | date due to some | technical issues, CFMX among them and may not be able to push | the release | date any further. | | We'll have to see how it goes I guess, and hope for the best | (and load | test!). It would be nice to see some CFMX sites with moderate to high | traffic who are not having issues.That would be comforting. :) | | Brook Davies | maracasmedia | | At 11:43 AM 13/08/02 +0200, you wrote: | Tormod Guldvog wrote: | | Here's what they say (quote from their reply to my post in their | forums): | | If you are worried about uptime, you should not be on a | Cold Fusion | MX | server. We keep | emailing this to our customers, putting it in newsletters etc. but | people are not | understanding that this is a complete rewrite of the | Macromedia Cold | Fusion product, and | there are many pieces that don't work properly at this time. It is | somewhat compatible, | and many features do work, but there are load issues and | connectivity | issues to ODBC. The | biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in | order | to connect from | JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as | they | did in Cold Fusion | 4.5 before service packs. | | I would think that is exactly why MM writes in the docs JDBC | Type 1 and | 2 Drivers are not recommended. If the host sets up MX but does not | follow this recommendation all bets are off. | | Jochem | | | __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)
Hey Tormod, I'm really interested in reading the thread you quote below, but I'm having trouble finding it via word search, and/or by searching under your forums nickname. Can you point me to this thread, or maybe give me some additional info about which forum/category the thread might appear in? Thanks much! -Vern -Original Message- From: Tormod Guldvog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related) customers not to choose the CFMX platform as it is known to be unstable unstable? Here's what they say (quote from their reply to my post in their forums): If you are worried about uptime, you should not be on a Cold Fusion MX server. We keep emailing this to our customers, putting it in newsletters etc. but people are not understanding that this is a complete rewrite of the Macromedia Cold Fusion product, and there are many pieces that don't work properly at this time. It is somewhat compatible, and many features do work, but there are load issues and connectivity issues to ODBC. The biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in order to connect from JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as they did in Cold Fusion 4.5 before service packs. Do not jump into CFMX with production sites thinking everything will run smoothly and that you will get the uptime you would on a mature product like Cold Fusion 5.0. Jumping into CFMX is like getting in a prototype airplane... you have no idea what could happen. This is a warning to all our customers because we DO NOT want to see our customers struggling to convert pieces of their applications at the last second or going crazy because CFMX isn't running like Cold Fusion 5.0. We have done our best to make CFMX stable, we have dropped the number of sites per server to around 75 sites per server just to help until they come out with service packs. Someone on the forum once said, they found it interesting when I talked about CF, implying that my comments are biased in some way, I want to assure all of our CF customers that is not the case. My comments are based on our knowledge and experience from monitoring the servers 24x7 and many hours and late nights with Macromedia support, and Microsoft support and the list goes on. We support many technologies and work very hard to do so above and beyond expectations and hope we enable our customers use them to their fullest potential. Now isn't that a mouthful. and have serious connectivity problems (page not found, browser hangups etc). never heard this. references to them from others but as for myself I'm having severe problems with two CFMX plans I've bought recently. what problems? Page not found errors, DNS problems (browesrs can't find the pages even though both PINGs and tracerts work all right), unresponsive site, Internal server errors, the whole shebang. The site in question, which is still a testing site, is at: http://www.hypography.net/ Tormod -- Tormod Guldvog [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the future is here today, what can possibly happen tomorrow? __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)
No, it was on IE.6.0 and has happened multiple times (the page not found error) under no load. At 11:43 AM 13/08/02 -0700, you wrote: Just out of curiosity Brook, have you noticed whether this has occurred directly on Netscape 4.7? We've seen this on 4.7 only. Upgrading to latest NN cured the problem. Actually, upgrading NN AT ALL cured the problem. Just my .02 | -Original Message- | From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:29 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related) | | | Now you mention it, I have encountered several page not found errors | completely out of the blue with CFMX. Refresh the page and Voila, the | problem disappears. But, I would have to agree that there is | a problem | here. And it has me very concerned considering we are | planning a release of | our new CFMX based site at the end of the month. | | I've also had other strange experiences with CFMX. It seems | that sometimes | settings change for no reason after a reboot. | | I really hope MM is aware (I'm sure they are) of some of | these issues and | that those service packs/patches will be released soon. Or | does releasing | Service Packs and/or patches so soon after a product launch | look bad for | MM? It would be nice to have some these issues listed as | known bugs and | timeliness for patches and/or workaounds. Is there anything | like this on | the MM site? | | Are there an CFMX success stories (high traffic sites?). Any | body else care | to share any 'bugs or issue's they have come across while | using CFMX? I am | getting really nervous about our Sept 1st launch. We already | have hundreds | of users on our site (pay site) and they would be none to | happy if our web | services started acting funny. It could inevitably cost us | business. But at | the same time, we have already delayed our publized launch | date due to some | technical issues, CFMX among them and may not be able to push | the release | date any further. | | We'll have to see how it goes I guess, and hope for the best | (and load | test!). It would be nice to see some CFMX sites with moderate to high | traffic who are not having issues.That would be comforting. :) | | Brook Davies | maracasmedia | | At 11:43 AM 13/08/02 +0200, you wrote: | Tormod Guldvog wrote: | | Here's what they say (quote from their reply to my post in their | forums): | | If you are worried about uptime, you should not be on a | Cold Fusion | MX | server. We keep | emailing this to our customers, putting it in newsletters etc. but | people are not | understanding that this is a complete rewrite of the | Macromedia Cold | Fusion product, and | there are many pieces that don't work properly at this time. It is | somewhat compatible, | and many features do work, but there are load issues and | connectivity | issues to ODBC. The | biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in | order | to connect from | JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as | they | did in Cold Fusion | 4.5 before service packs. | | I would think that is exactly why MM writes in the docs JDBC | Type 1 and | 2 Drivers are not recommended. If the host sets up MX but does not | follow this recommendation all bets are off. | | Jochem | | | __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)
I have to make a correction here, as I was in error: My apologies to Crystaltech for mentioning them here...they are indeed a decent hosting partner and I have only good things to say about them. The problem has been solved and it was my own fault. (And no, they're not asking me to say this). Anyways, thanks to all who responded, the problem was a faulty DNS entry at Register.com which for some reason made things work now and then...and I didn't catch it with a tracert...these things can be difficult to spot if you're not a webmaster expert! Tormod -Original Message- From: Tormod Guldvog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13. august 2002 08:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related) Hi folks I am working on moving my CF5 site from a dedicated server to a shared CFMX hosting environment. The problems seems to have no end...but they seem NOT to be related to the code. Instead, the ISP now tells me that they have warned all their customers not to choose the CFMX platform as it is known to be unstable and have serious connectivity problems (page not found, browser hangups etc). It seems to me that this would have been a known issue if it were true. Anyone else heard about this? Are they right? Or is this due to ignorance on their behalf? The host in qustion is http://www.crystaltech.com/ - I've only had good references to them from others but as for myself I'm having severe problems with two CFMX plans I've bought recently. With kind regards, Tormod Guldvog Editor, Hypography Sci-Tech http://www.hypography.com/ __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)
Hey Tormod, I found it, nevermind, thanks! (I didn't understand that was a CrystalTech employee on their forums, not a Macromedia Tech on our forums.) -Vern -Original Message- From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related) Hey Tormod, I'm really interested in reading the thread you quote below, but I'm having trouble finding it via word search, and/or by searching under your forums nickname. Can you point me to this thread, or maybe give me some additional info about which forum/category the thread might appear in? Thanks much! -Vern -Original Message- From: Tormod Guldvog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related) customers not to choose the CFMX platform as it is known to be unstable unstable? Here's what they say (quote from their reply to my post in their forums): If you are worried about uptime, you should not be on a Cold Fusion MX server. We keep emailing this to our customers, putting it in newsletters etc. but people are not understanding that this is a complete rewrite of the Macromedia Cold Fusion product, and there are many pieces that don't work properly at this time. It is somewhat compatible, and many features do work, but there are load issues and connectivity issues to ODBC. The biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in order to connect from JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as they did in Cold Fusion 4.5 before service packs. Do not jump into CFMX with production sites thinking everything will run smoothly and that you will get the uptime you would on a mature product like Cold Fusion 5.0. Jumping into CFMX is like getting in a prototype airplane... you have no idea what could happen. This is a warning to all our customers because we DO NOT want to see our customers struggling to convert pieces of their applications at the last second or going crazy because CFMX isn't running like Cold Fusion 5.0. We have done our best to make CFMX stable, we have dropped the number of sites per server to around 75 sites per server just to help until they come out with service packs. Someone on the forum once said, they found it interesting when I talked about CF, implying that my comments are biased in some way, I want to assure all of our CF customers that is not the case. My comments are based on our knowledge and experience from monitoring the servers 24x7 and many hours and late nights with Macromedia support, and Microsoft support and the list goes on. We support many technologies and work very hard to do so above and beyond expectations and hope we enable our customers use them to their fullest potential. Now isn't that a mouthful. and have serious connectivity problems (page not found, browser hangups etc). never heard this. references to them from others but as for myself I'm having severe problems with two CFMX plans I've bought recently. what problems? Page not found errors, DNS problems (browesrs can't find the pages even though both PINGs and tracerts work all right), unresponsive site, Internal server errors, the whole shebang. The site in question, which is still a testing site, is at: http://www.hypography.net/ Tormod -- Tormod Guldvog [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the future is here today, what can possibly happen tomorrow? __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists