Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)

2002-08-13 Thread Tormod Guldvog

  customers not to choose the CFMX platform as it is known to be unstable
 
 unstable?

Here's what they say (quote from their reply to my post in their forums):

If you are worried about uptime, you should not be on a Cold Fusion MX server. We 
keep 
emailing this to our customers, putting it in newsletters etc. but people are not 
understanding that this is a complete rewrite of the Macromedia Cold Fusion product, 
and 
there are many pieces that don't work properly at this time. It is somewhat 
compatible, 
and many features do work, but there are load issues and connectivity issues to ODBC. 
The 
biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in order to connect 
from 
JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as they did in Cold 
Fusion 
4.5 before service packs.

Do not jump into CFMX with production sites thinking everything will run smoothly and 
that you will get the uptime you would on a mature product like Cold Fusion 5.0. 
Jumping 
into CFMX is like getting in a prototype airplane… you have no idea what could happen.

This is a warning to all our customers because we DO NOT want to see our customers 
struggling to convert pieces of their applications at the last second or going crazy 
because CFMX isn't running like Cold Fusion 5.0. We have done our best to make CFMX 
stable, we have dropped the number of sites per server to around 75 sites per server 
just 
to help until they come out with service packs. 

Someone on the forum once said, they found it “interesting” when I talked about CF, 
implying that my comments are biased in some way, I want to assure all of our CF 
customers that is not the case. My comments are based on our knowledge and experience 
from monitoring the servers 24x7 and many hours and late nights with Macromedia 
support, 
and Microsoft support and the list goes on. We support many technologies and work very 
hard to do so above and beyond expectations and hope we enable our customers use them 
to 
their fullest potential.

Now isn't that a mouthful.

 
  and have serious connectivity problems (page not found, browser hangups
  etc).
 
 never heard this.
  references to them from others but as for myself I'm having severe
  problems with two CFMX plans I've bought recently.
 
 what problems?

Page not found errors, DNS problems (browesrs can't find the pages even though both 
PINGs 
and tracerts work all right), unresponsive site, Internal server errors, the whole 
shebang.

The site in question, which is still a testing site, is at: http://www.hypography.net/

Tormod

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RE: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)

2002-08-13 Thread John Beynon

Well, I've not had a problem with CFMX on HostmySite.com :)

-Original Message-
From: Tormod Guldvog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 13 August 2002 09:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)


  customers not to choose the CFMX platform as it is known to be 
  unstable
 
 unstable?

Here's what they say (quote from their reply to my post in their forums):

If you are worried about uptime, you should not be on a Cold Fusion MX
server. We keep 
emailing this to our customers, putting it in newsletters etc. but people
are not 
understanding that this is a complete rewrite of the Macromedia Cold Fusion
product, and 
there are many pieces that don't work properly at this time. It is somewhat
compatible, 
and many features do work, but there are load issues and connectivity issues
to ODBC. The 
biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in order to
connect from 
JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as they did
in Cold Fusion 
4.5 before service packs.

Do not jump into CFMX with production sites thinking everything will run
smoothly and 
that you will get the uptime you would on a mature product like Cold Fusion
5.0. Jumping 
into CFMX is like getting in a prototype airplane... you have no idea what
could happen.

This is a warning to all our customers because we DO NOT want to see our
customers 
struggling to convert pieces of their applications at the last second or
going crazy 
because CFMX isn't running like Cold Fusion 5.0. We have done our best to
make CFMX 
stable, we have dropped the number of sites per server to around 75 sites
per server just 
to help until they come out with service packs. 

Someone on the forum once said, they found it interesting when I talked
about CF, 
implying that my comments are biased in some way, I want to assure all of
our CF 
customers that is not the case. My comments are based on our knowledge and
experience 
from monitoring the servers 24x7 and many hours and late nights with
Macromedia support, 
and Microsoft support and the list goes on. We support many technologies and
work very 
hard to do so above and beyond expectations and hope we enable our customers
use them to 
their fullest potential.

Now isn't that a mouthful.

 
  and have serious connectivity problems (page not found, browser 
  hangups etc).
 
 never heard this.
  references to them from others but as for myself I'm having severe 
  problems with two CFMX plans I've bought recently.
 
 what problems?

Page not found errors, DNS problems (browesrs can't find the pages even
though both PINGs 
and tracerts work all right), unresponsive site, Internal server errors, the
whole 
shebang.

The site in question, which is still a testing site, is at:
http://www.hypography.net/

Tormod

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Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)

2002-08-13 Thread Jochem van Dieten

Tormod Guldvog wrote:
 
 Here's what they say (quote from their reply to my post in their forums):
 
 If you are worried about uptime, you should not be on a Cold Fusion MX server. We 
keep 
 emailing this to our customers, putting it in newsletters etc. but people are not 
 understanding that this is a complete rewrite of the Macromedia Cold Fusion product, 
and 
 there are many pieces that don't work properly at this time. It is somewhat 
compatible, 
 and many features do work, but there are load issues and connectivity issues to 
ODBC. The 
 biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in order to connect 
from 
 JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as they did in Cold 
Fusion 
 4.5 before service packs.

I would think that is exactly why MM writes in the docs JDBC Type 1 and 
2 Drivers are not recommended. If the host sets up MX but does not 
follow this recommendation all bets are off.

Jochem

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Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)

2002-08-13 Thread Paul Hastings

 biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in order to
connect from
 JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as they did
in Cold Fusion
 4.5 before service packs.

actually bought those from data direct. i have no issues using the jdbc
drivers, odbc bridges or whatever probably aren't a good idea with anything
java based.

 Do not jump into CFMX with production sites thinking everything will run
smoothly and

well thats good advice for anything, test, test  test again.

 This is a warning to all our customers because we DO NOT want to see our
customers
 struggling to convert pieces of their applications at the last second or
going crazy

maybe if they  their customers read the manual?

 because CFMX isn't running like Cold Fusion 5.0. We have done our best to
make CFMX
 stable, we have dropped the number of sites per server to around 75 sites
per server just
 to help until they come out with service packs.

sounds good/bad. they maybe don't know cfmx too well, which is risky but
then again you get fewer sites per box ;-)

 Someone on the forum once said, they found it interesting when I talked
about CF,
 implying that my comments are biased in some way, I want to assure all of
our CF
 customers that is not the case. My comments are based on our knowledge and
experience
 from monitoring the servers 24x7 and many hours and late nights with
Macromedia support,
 and Microsoft support and the list goes on. We support many technologies
and work very
 hard to do so above and beyond expectations and hope we enable our
customers use them to
 their fullest potential.

 Now isn't that a mouthful.

 
   and have serious connectivity problems (page not found, browser
hangups
   etc).
 
  never heard this.
   references to them from others but as for myself I'm having severe
   problems with two CFMX plans I've bought recently.
 
  what problems?

 Page not found errors, DNS problems (browesrs can't find the pages even
though both PINGs
 and tracerts work all right), unresponsive site, Internal server errors,
the whole
 shebang.

 The site in question, which is still a testing site, is at:
http://www.hypography.net/

 Tormod

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RE: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)

2002-08-13 Thread Stacy Young

http://www.mediatemple.net

MX on Linux !


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 5:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)

 biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in order to
connect from
 JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as they did
in Cold Fusion
 4.5 before service packs.

actually bought those from data direct. i have no issues using the jdbc
drivers, odbc bridges or whatever probably aren't a good idea with anything
java based.

 Do not jump into CFMX with production sites thinking everything will run
smoothly and

well thats good advice for anything, test, test  test again.

 This is a warning to all our customers because we DO NOT want to see our
customers
 struggling to convert pieces of their applications at the last second or
going crazy

maybe if they  their customers read the manual?

 because CFMX isn't running like Cold Fusion 5.0. We have done our best to
make CFMX
 stable, we have dropped the number of sites per server to around 75 sites
per server just
 to help until they come out with service packs.

sounds good/bad. they maybe don't know cfmx too well, which is risky but
then again you get fewer sites per box ;-)

 Someone on the forum once said, they found it interesting when I talked
about CF,
 implying that my comments are biased in some way, I want to assure all of
our CF
 customers that is not the case. My comments are based on our knowledge and
experience
 from monitoring the servers 24x7 and many hours and late nights with
Macromedia support,
 and Microsoft support and the list goes on. We support many technologies
and work very
 hard to do so above and beyond expectations and hope we enable our
customers use them to
 their fullest potential.

 Now isn't that a mouthful.

 
   and have serious connectivity problems (page not found, browser
hangups
   etc).
 
  never heard this.
   references to them from others but as for myself I'm having severe
   problems with two CFMX plans I've bought recently.
 
  what problems?

 Page not found errors, DNS problems (browesrs can't find the pages even
though both PINGs
 and tracerts work all right), unresponsive site, Internal server errors,
the whole
 shebang.

 The site in question, which is still a testing site, is at:
http://www.hypography.net/

 Tormod

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Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)

2002-08-13 Thread Brook Davies

Now you mention it, I have encountered several page not found errors 
completely out of the blue with CFMX. Refresh the page and Voila, the 
problem disappears. But, I would have to agree that there is a problem 
here. And it has me very concerned considering we are planning a release of 
our new CFMX based site at the end of the month.

I've also had other strange experiences with CFMX. It seems that sometimes 
settings change for no reason after a reboot.

I really hope MM is aware (I'm sure they are) of some of these issues and 
that those service packs/patches will be released soon. Or does releasing 
Service Packs and/or patches so soon after a product launch look bad for 
MM? It would be nice to have some these issues listed as known bugs and 
timeliness for patches and/or workaounds. Is there anything like this on 
the MM site?

Are there an CFMX success stories (high traffic sites?). Any body else care 
to share any 'bugs or issue's they have come across while using CFMX? I am 
getting really nervous about our Sept 1st launch. We already have hundreds 
of users on our site (pay site) and they would be none to happy if our web 
services started acting funny. It could inevitably cost us business. But at 
the same time, we have already delayed our publized launch date due to some 
technical issues, CFMX among them and may not be able to push the release 
date any further.

We'll have to see how it goes I guess, and hope for the best (and load 
test!). It would be nice to see some CFMX sites with moderate to high 
traffic who are not having issues.That would be comforting. :)

Brook Davies
maracasmedia

At 11:43 AM 13/08/02 +0200, you wrote:
Tormod Guldvog wrote:
 
  Here's what they say (quote from their reply to my post in their forums):
 
  If you are worried about uptime, you should not be on a Cold Fusion MX 
 server. We keep
  emailing this to our customers, putting it in newsletters etc. but 
 people are not
  understanding that this is a complete rewrite of the Macromedia Cold 
 Fusion product, and
  there are many pieces that don't work properly at this time. It is 
 somewhat compatible,
  and many features do work, but there are load issues and connectivity 
 issues to ODBC. The
  biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in order 
 to connect from
  JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as they 
 did in Cold Fusion
  4.5 before service packs.

I would think that is exactly why MM writes in the docs JDBC Type 1 and
2 Drivers are not recommended. If the host sets up MX but does not
follow this recommendation all bets are off.

Jochem


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RE: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)

2002-08-13 Thread Lee Fuller

Just out of curiosity Brook, have you noticed whether this has occurred
directly on Netscape 4.7?  We've seen this on 4.7 only.  Upgrading to
latest NN cured the problem.  Actually, upgrading NN AT ALL cured the
problem.

Just my .02

| -Original Message-
| From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
| Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:29 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)
| 
| 
| Now you mention it, I have encountered several page not found errors 
| completely out of the blue with CFMX. Refresh the page and Voila, the 
| problem disappears. But, I would have to agree that there is 
| a problem 
| here. And it has me very concerned considering we are 
| planning a release of 
| our new CFMX based site at the end of the month.
| 
| I've also had other strange experiences with CFMX. It seems 
| that sometimes 
| settings change for no reason after a reboot.
| 
| I really hope MM is aware (I'm sure they are) of some of 
| these issues and 
| that those service packs/patches will be released soon. Or 
| does releasing 
| Service Packs and/or patches so soon after a product launch 
| look bad for 
| MM? It would be nice to have some these issues listed as 
| known bugs and 
| timeliness for patches and/or workaounds. Is there anything 
| like this on 
| the MM site?
| 
| Are there an CFMX success stories (high traffic sites?). Any 
| body else care 
| to share any 'bugs or issue's they have come across while 
| using CFMX? I am 
| getting really nervous about our Sept 1st launch. We already 
| have hundreds 
| of users on our site (pay site) and they would be none to 
| happy if our web 
| services started acting funny. It could inevitably cost us 
| business. But at 
| the same time, we have already delayed our publized launch 
| date due to some 
| technical issues, CFMX among them and may not be able to push 
| the release 
| date any further.
| 
| We'll have to see how it goes I guess, and hope for the best 
| (and load 
| test!). It would be nice to see some CFMX sites with moderate to high 
| traffic who are not having issues.That would be comforting. :)
| 
| Brook Davies
| maracasmedia
| 
| At 11:43 AM 13/08/02 +0200, you wrote:
| Tormod Guldvog wrote:
|  
|   Here's what they say (quote from their reply to my post in their 
|   forums):
|  
|   If you are worried about uptime, you should not be on a 
| Cold Fusion 
|   MX
|  server. We keep
|   emailing this to our customers, putting it in newsletters etc. but
|  people are not
|   understanding that this is a complete rewrite of the 
| Macromedia Cold
|  Fusion product, and
|   there are many pieces that don't work properly at this time. It is
|  somewhat compatible,
|   and many features do work, but there are load issues and 
|   connectivity
|  issues to ODBC. The
|   biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in 
|   order
|  to connect from
|   JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as 
|   they
|  did in Cold Fusion
|   4.5 before service packs.
| 
| I would think that is exactly why MM writes in the docs JDBC 
| Type 1 and 
| 2 Drivers are not recommended. If the host sets up MX but does not 
| follow this recommendation all bets are off.
| 
| Jochem
| 
| 
| 
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RE: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)

2002-08-13 Thread Vernon Viehe

Hey Tormod,

I'm really interested in reading the thread you quote below, but I'm having trouble 
finding it via word search, and/or by searching under your forums nickname.

Can you point me to this thread, or maybe give me some additional info about which 
forum/category the thread might appear in?

Thanks much!

-Vern

 -Original Message-
 From: Tormod Guldvog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:30 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)
 
 
   customers not to choose the CFMX platform as it is known 
 to be unstable
  
  unstable?
 
 Here's what they say (quote from their reply to my post in 
 their forums):
 
 If you are worried about uptime, you should not be on a Cold 
 Fusion MX server. We keep 
 emailing this to our customers, putting it in newsletters 
 etc. but people are not 
 understanding that this is a complete rewrite of the 
 Macromedia Cold Fusion product, and 
 there are many pieces that don't work properly at this time. 
 It is somewhat compatible, 
 and many features do work, but there are load issues and 
 connectivity issues to ODBC. The 
 biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to 
 create in order to connect from 
 JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall 
 just as they did in Cold Fusion 
 4.5 before service packs.
 
 Do not jump into CFMX with production sites thinking 
 everything will run smoothly and 
 that you will get the uptime you would on a mature product 
 like Cold Fusion 5.0. Jumping 
 into CFMX is like getting in a prototype airplane... you have 
 no idea what could happen.
 
 This is a warning to all our customers because we DO NOT want 
 to see our customers 
 struggling to convert pieces of their applications at the 
 last second or going crazy 
 because CFMX isn't running like Cold Fusion 5.0. We have done 
 our best to make CFMX 
 stable, we have dropped the number of sites per server to 
 around 75 sites per server just 
 to help until they come out with service packs. 
 
 Someone on the forum once said, they found it interesting 
 when I talked about CF, 
 implying that my comments are biased in some way, I want to 
 assure all of our CF 
 customers that is not the case. My comments are based on our 
 knowledge and experience 
 from monitoring the servers 24x7 and many hours and late 
 nights with Macromedia support, 
 and Microsoft support and the list goes on. We support many 
 technologies and work very 
 hard to do so above and beyond expectations and hope we 
 enable our customers use them to 
 their fullest potential.
 
 Now isn't that a mouthful.
 
  
   and have serious connectivity problems (page not found, 
 browser hangups
   etc).
  
  never heard this.
   references to them from others but as for myself I'm having severe
   problems with two CFMX plans I've bought recently.
  
  what problems?
 
 Page not found errors, DNS problems (browesrs can't find the 
 pages even though both PINGs 
 and tracerts work all right), unresponsive site, Internal 
 server errors, the whole 
 shebang.
 
 The site in question, which is still a testing site, is at: 
http://www.hypography.net/

Tormod

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RE: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)

2002-08-13 Thread Brook Davies

No, it was on IE.6.0 and has happened multiple times (the page not found 
error) under no load.

At 11:43 AM 13/08/02 -0700, you wrote:
Just out of curiosity Brook, have you noticed whether this has occurred
directly on Netscape 4.7?  We've seen this on 4.7 only.  Upgrading to
latest NN cured the problem.  Actually, upgrading NN AT ALL cured the
problem.

Just my .02

| -Original Message-
| From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:29 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)
|
|
| Now you mention it, I have encountered several page not found errors
| completely out of the blue with CFMX. Refresh the page and Voila, the
| problem disappears. But, I would have to agree that there is
| a problem
| here. And it has me very concerned considering we are
| planning a release of
| our new CFMX based site at the end of the month.
|
| I've also had other strange experiences with CFMX. It seems
| that sometimes
| settings change for no reason after a reboot.
|
| I really hope MM is aware (I'm sure they are) of some of
| these issues and
| that those service packs/patches will be released soon. Or
| does releasing
| Service Packs and/or patches so soon after a product launch
| look bad for
| MM? It would be nice to have some these issues listed as
| known bugs and
| timeliness for patches and/or workaounds. Is there anything
| like this on
| the MM site?
|
| Are there an CFMX success stories (high traffic sites?). Any
| body else care
| to share any 'bugs or issue's they have come across while
| using CFMX? I am
| getting really nervous about our Sept 1st launch. We already
| have hundreds
| of users on our site (pay site) and they would be none to
| happy if our web
| services started acting funny. It could inevitably cost us
| business. But at
| the same time, we have already delayed our publized launch
| date due to some
| technical issues, CFMX among them and may not be able to push
| the release
| date any further.
|
| We'll have to see how it goes I guess, and hope for the best
| (and load
| test!). It would be nice to see some CFMX sites with moderate to high
| traffic who are not having issues.That would be comforting. :)
|
| Brook Davies
| maracasmedia
|
| At 11:43 AM 13/08/02 +0200, you wrote:
| Tormod Guldvog wrote:
|  
|   Here's what they say (quote from their reply to my post in their
|   forums):
|  
|   If you are worried about uptime, you should not be on a
| Cold Fusion
|   MX
|  server. We keep
|   emailing this to our customers, putting it in newsletters etc. but
|  people are not
|   understanding that this is a complete rewrite of the
| Macromedia Cold
|  Fusion product, and
|   there are many pieces that don't work properly at this time. It is
|  somewhat compatible,
|   and many features do work, but there are load issues and
|   connectivity
|  issues to ODBC. The
|   biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to create in
|   order
|  to connect from
|   JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall just as
|   they
|  did in Cold Fusion
|   4.5 before service packs.
| 
| I would think that is exactly why MM writes in the docs JDBC
| Type 1 and
| 2 Drivers are not recommended. If the host sets up MX but does not
| follow this recommendation all bets are off.
| 
| Jochem
| 
| 
|

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RE: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)

2002-08-13 Thread Tormod Guldvog

I have to make a correction here, as I was in error:

My apologies to Crystaltech for mentioning them here...they are indeed a
decent hosting partner and I have only good things to say about them.
The problem has been solved and it was my own fault.

(And no, they're not asking me to say this).

Anyways, thanks to all who responded, the problem was a faulty DNS entry
at Register.com which for some reason made things work now and
then...and I didn't catch it with a tracert...these things can be
difficult to spot if you're not a webmaster expert!

Tormod

-Original Message-
From: Tormod Guldvog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 13. august 2002 08:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)


Hi folks

I am working on moving my CF5 site from a dedicated server to a shared
CFMX hosting environment.

The problems seems to have no end...but they seem NOT to be related to
the code. Instead, the ISP now tells me that they have warned all their
customers not to choose the CFMX platform as it is known to be unstable
and have serious connectivity problems (page not found, browser hangups
etc).

It seems to me that this would have been a known issue if it were true.

Anyone else heard about this? Are they right? Or is this due to
ignorance on their behalf?

The host in qustion is http://www.crystaltech.com/ - I've only had good
references to them from others but as for myself I'm having severe
problems with two CFMX plans I've bought recently.

With kind regards,
Tormod Guldvog
Editor, Hypography Sci-Tech
http://www.hypography.com/ 



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RE: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)

2002-08-13 Thread Vernon Viehe

Hey Tormod, I found it, nevermind, thanks!

(I didn't understand that was a CrystalTech employee on their forums, not a Macromedia 
Tech on our forums.)

-Vern

 -Original Message-
 From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:49 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)
 
 
 Hey Tormod,
 
 I'm really interested in reading the thread you quote below, 
 but I'm having trouble finding it via word search, and/or by 
 searching under your forums nickname.
 
 Can you point me to this thread, or maybe give me some 
 additional info about which forum/category the thread might appear in?
 
 Thanks much!
 
 -Vern
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tormod Guldvog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:30 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: CFMX connectivity problems (not DB-related)
  
  
customers not to choose the CFMX platform as it is known 
  to be unstable
   
   unstable?
  
  Here's what they say (quote from their reply to my post in 
  their forums):
  
  If you are worried about uptime, you should not be on a Cold 
  Fusion MX server. We keep 
  emailing this to our customers, putting it in newsletters 
  etc. but people are not 
  understanding that this is a complete rewrite of the 
  Macromedia Cold Fusion product, and 
  there are many pieces that don't work properly at this time. 
  It is somewhat compatible, 
  and many features do work, but there are load issues and 
  connectivity issues to ODBC. The 
  biggest problem is their ODBC service which they had to 
  create in order to connect from 
  JRUN/JDBC to Windows native ODBC. The ODBC services stall 
  just as they did in Cold Fusion 
  4.5 before service packs.
  
  Do not jump into CFMX with production sites thinking 
  everything will run smoothly and 
  that you will get the uptime you would on a mature product 
  like Cold Fusion 5.0. Jumping 
  into CFMX is like getting in a prototype airplane... you have 
  no idea what could happen.
  
  This is a warning to all our customers because we DO NOT want 
  to see our customers 
  struggling to convert pieces of their applications at the 
  last second or going crazy 
  because CFMX isn't running like Cold Fusion 5.0. We have done 
  our best to make CFMX 
  stable, we have dropped the number of sites per server to 
  around 75 sites per server just 
  to help until they come out with service packs. 
  
  Someone on the forum once said, they found it interesting 
  when I talked about CF, 
  implying that my comments are biased in some way, I want to 
  assure all of our CF 
  customers that is not the case. My comments are based on our 
  knowledge and experience 
  from monitoring the servers 24x7 and many hours and late 
  nights with Macromedia support, 
  and Microsoft support and the list goes on. We support many 
  technologies and work very 
  hard to do so above and beyond expectations and hope we 
  enable our customers use them to 
  their fullest potential.
  
  Now isn't that a mouthful.
  
   
and have serious connectivity problems (page not found, 
  browser hangups
etc).
   
   never heard this.
references to them from others but as for myself I'm 
 having severe
problems with two CFMX plans I've bought recently.
   
   what problems?
  
  Page not found errors, DNS problems (browesrs can't find the 
  pages even though both PINGs 
  and tracerts work all right), unresponsive site, Internal 
  server errors, the whole 
  shebang.
  
  The site in question, which is still a testing site, is at: 
 http://www.hypography.net/
 
 Tormod
 
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