Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
We've gone down this road many a time, and I was a hard convert when coldfusion builder 1.0 came out myself but it really didn't take long to get use to. Today I switch between CB3 and sublimetext depending on what I'm working on. Svn is best when you tie it into continuous integration where your commit to trunk can be built to DEV server automatically with the likes of Jenkins installed. Then those build are promoted to QA, UAT and to production. Stop saying you can't or its too much work or I like the old way, just suck it up and do it. Teams of 1 to 1000 say yes.. But I would jump right to Git over Svn any day. On Dec 6, 2007 6:29 AM, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com wrote: On Thursday 06 Dec 2007, Tom Chiverton wrote: On Thursday 06 Dec 2007, mac jordan wrote: I the way that it seems to insist on setting a up a project on my machine, Ahh, yes, that's an Eclipse-ism I think. Just checked, and you shouldn't need a project to use the FTP view. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to competently compete performance-oriented relationships on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359758 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
You realize that this thread is over 7 YEARS old, right? Lol On Dec 4, 2014 7:38 AM, Casey Dougall casey.doug...@gmail.com wrote: We've gone down this road many a time, and I was a hard convert when coldfusion builder 1.0 came out myself but it really didn't take long to get use to. Today I switch between CB3 and sublimetext depending on what I'm working on. Svn is best when you tie it into continuous integration where your commit to trunk can be built to DEV server automatically with the likes of Jenkins installed. Then those build are promoted to QA, UAT and to production. Stop saying you can't or its too much work or I like the old way, just suck it up and do it. Teams of 1 to 1000 say yes.. But I would jump right to Git over Svn any day. On Dec 6, 2007 6:29 AM, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com wrote: On Thursday 06 Dec 2007, Tom Chiverton wrote: On Thursday 06 Dec 2007, mac jordan wrote: I the way that it seems to insist on setting a up a project on my machine, Ahh, yes, that's an Eclipse-ism I think. Just checked, and you shouldn't need a project to use the FTP view. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to competently compete performance-oriented relationships on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359759 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
Omg, this is what I get for archiving mail... I'm totally not going to do that anymore. Stupid inbox.google.com made it so easy to archive we hen I switched back to gmail unread messages from eons ago made there way to the top, front and center On Thu, Dec 4, 2014, 8:50 AM Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.com wrote: You realize that this thread is over 7 YEARS old, right? Lol On Dec 4, 2014 7:38 AM, Casey Dougall casey.doug...@gmail.com wrote: We've gone down this road many a time, and I was a hard convert when coldfusion builder 1.0 came out myself but it really didn't take long to get use to. Today I switch between CB3 and sublimetext depending on what I'm working on. Svn is best when you tie it into continuous integration where your commit to trunk can be built to DEV server automatically with the likes of Jenkins installed. Then those build are promoted to QA, UAT and to production. Stop saying you can't or its too much work or I like the old way, just suck it up and do it. Teams of 1 to 1000 say yes.. But I would jump right to Git over Svn any day. On Dec 6, 2007 6:29 AM, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com wrote: On Thursday 06 Dec 2007, Tom Chiverton wrote: On Thursday 06 Dec 2007, mac jordan wrote: I the way that it seems to insist on setting a up a project on my machine, Ahh, yes, that's an Eclipse-ism I think. Just checked, and you shouldn't need a project to use the FTP view. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to competently compete performance-oriented relationships on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359760 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
Lol. That's awesome. :-) On Dec 4, 2014 7:55 AM, Casey Dougall casey.doug...@gmail.com wrote: Omg, this is what I get for archiving mail... I'm totally not going to do that anymore. Stupid inbox.google.com made it so easy to archive we hen I switched back to gmail unread messages from eons ago made there way to the top, front and center On Thu, Dec 4, 2014, 8:50 AM Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.com wrote: You realize that this thread is over 7 YEARS old, right? Lol On Dec 4, 2014 7:38 AM, Casey Dougall casey.doug...@gmail.com wrote: We've gone down this road many a time, and I was a hard convert when coldfusion builder 1.0 came out myself but it really didn't take long to get use to. Today I switch between CB3 and sublimetext depending on what I'm working on. Svn is best when you tie it into continuous integration where your commit to trunk can be built to DEV server automatically with the likes of Jenkins installed. Then those build are promoted to QA, UAT and to production. Stop saying you can't or its too much work or I like the old way, just suck it up and do it. Teams of 1 to 1000 say yes.. But I would jump right to Git over Svn any day. On Dec 6, 2007 6:29 AM, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com wrote: On Thursday 06 Dec 2007, Tom Chiverton wrote: On Thursday 06 Dec 2007, mac jordan wrote: I the way that it seems to insist on setting a up a project on my machine, Ahh, yes, that's an Eclipse-ism I think. Just checked, and you shouldn't need a project to use the FTP view. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to competently compete performance-oriented relationships on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359761 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
Yeah, you've got to hit the sweep button as soon as you get Inbox to clear out all your old stuff. BTW, I have invites to anyone who wants to try Google Inbox. Yes, you too can have the opportunity to reply to seven year old threads. Nathan Strutz On Thu Dec 04 2014 at 8:57:53 AM Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.com wrote: Lol. That's awesome. :-) On Dec 4, 2014 7:55 AM, Casey Dougall casey.doug...@gmail.com wrote: Omg, this is what I get for archiving mail... I'm totally not going to do that anymore. Stupid inbox.google.com made it so easy to archive we hen I switched back to gmail unread messages from eons ago made there way to the top, front and center On Thu, Dec 4, 2014, 8:50 AM Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.com wrote: You realize that this thread is over 7 YEARS old, right? Lol On Dec 4, 2014 7:38 AM, Casey Dougall casey.doug...@gmail.com wrote: We've gone down this road many a time, and I was a hard convert when coldfusion builder 1.0 came out myself but it really didn't take long to get use to. Today I switch between CB3 and sublimetext depending on what I'm working on. Svn is best when you tie it into continuous integration where your commit to trunk can be built to DEV server automatically with the likes of Jenkins installed. Then those build are promoted to QA, UAT and to production. Stop saying you can't or its too much work or I like the old way, just suck it up and do it. Teams of 1 to 1000 say yes.. But I would jump right to Git over Svn any day. On Dec 6, 2007 6:29 AM, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com wrote: On Thursday 06 Dec 2007, Tom Chiverton wrote: On Thursday 06 Dec 2007, mac jordan wrote: I the way that it seems to insist on setting a up a project on my machine, Ahh, yes, that's an Eclipse-ism I think. Just checked, and you shouldn't need a project to use the FTP view. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to competently compete performance-oriented relationships on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com . ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359762 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
BTW, I have invites to anyone who wants to try Google Inbox. Yes, you too can have the opportunity to reply to seven year old threads. This one also is at least 7 years old ;-) Any one can get a Gmail address, no invite is necessary ;-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359763 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
1. Nathan didn't reply to a 7-yr-old message. 2. Gmail != Google Inbox http://www.google.com/inbox/ On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 10:41 AM, wrote: BTW, I have invites to anyone who wants to try Google Inbox. Yes, you too can have the opportunity to reply to seven year old threads. This one also is at least 7 years old ;-) Any one can get a Gmail address, no invite is necessary ;-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359764 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
Just to point out... On Dec 6, 2007 6:29 AM, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com wrote: Yeah.. He did. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Nathan didn't reply to a 7-yr-old message. 2. Gmail != Google Inbox http://www.google.com/inbox/ On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 10:41 AM, wrote: BTW, I have invites to anyone who wants to try Google Inbox. Yes, you too can have the opportunity to reply to seven year old threads. This one also is at least 7 years old ;-) Any one can get a Gmail address, no invite is necessary ;-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359765 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.com wrote: Just to point out... On Dec 6, 2007 6:29 AM, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com wrote: Yeah.. He did. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Nathan didn't reply to a 7-yr-old message. Seriously? Just to point it out, you aren't paying attention. Let me paraphrase my previous statement for those that like to not bother reading and be a smart(dumb) ass. Nathan DID NOT reply to a 7-yr-old thread. Thank you for playing along. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Nathan Strutz str...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu Dec 04 2014 at 8:57:53 AM Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.com wrote: Lol. That's awesome. :-) On Dec 4, 2014 7:55 AM, Casey Dougall casey.doug...@gmail.com wrote: Omg, this is what I get for archiving mail... I'm totally not going to do that anymore. Stupid inbox.google.com made it so easy to archive we hen I switched back to gmail unread messages from eons ago made there way to the top, front and center On Thu, Dec 4, 2014, 8:50 AM Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.com wrote: You realize that this thread is over 7 YEARS old, right? Lol On Dec 4, 2014 7:38 AM, Casey Dougall casey.doug...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 6, 2007 6:29 AM, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359766 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
On Dec 5, 2007 2:07 PM, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In what way ? It's possible it either needs a new feature adding to the (long !) list, or you've just missed something. Or it might be Eclipse's fault, in which case good luck :-) I the way that it seems to insist on setting a up a project on my machine, when I want and need to work with the files on a server. -- mac jordan www.webhorus.net www.nibblous.com www.photocena.com ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294284 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
On Thursday 06 Dec 2007, mac jordan wrote: I the way that it seems to insist on setting a up a project on my machine, Ahh, yes, that's an Eclipse-ism I think. when I want and need to work with the files on a server. It's got an FTP/RDS explorer, that I don't use, but I believe you can double click a file there to edit it. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to collaboratively harness eligible e-markets on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294288 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
On Thursday 06 Dec 2007, Tom Chiverton wrote: On Thursday 06 Dec 2007, mac jordan wrote: I the way that it seems to insist on setting a up a project on my machine, Ahh, yes, that's an Eclipse-ism I think. Just checked, and you shouldn't need a project to use the FTP view. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to competently compete performance-oriented relationships on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294293 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
On Tuesday 04 Dec 2007, Rick Faircloth wrote: of the issue, I can discern where to start, what's simple, what's complex. There's no way to tell all the possibilities until you know everything. Well, asking here useally helps :-) -- Tom Chiverton Helping to seamlessly reintermediate leading-edge e-tailers on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294211 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
On Dec 5, 2007 10:30 AM, Will Swain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too. I think it's partly just that I'm so used to DW that I can use it in my sleep (sometimes it feels like I do!). I keep trying to make the switch to CFE, but keep coming back to DW. I think I might need to be really strict with myself and force myself to use CFE only for a couple of weeks - if I can't do something then find out how to, rather than just switch back to DW. CFE just doesn't work like I do. I work in a team of two, and a project-based IDE simply doesn't do it for me. I'll stick with DW and CVS. -- mac jordan www.webhorus.net www.nibblous.com www.photocena.com ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294214 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
Me too. I think it's partly just that I'm so used to DW that I can use it in my sleep (sometimes it feels like I do!). I keep trying to make the switch to CFE, but keep coming back to DW. I think I might need to be really strict with myself and force myself to use CFE only for a couple of weeks - if I can't do something then find out how to, rather than just switch back to DW. -Original Message- From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 December 2007 18:12 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Eclipse CFEclipse There's just too much assumed knowledge. It's easy to forget what others don't know... Rick This is exactly what I encountered. I keep trying CFE, but DW is always there as my stable tool. I will probably give CFE another attempt over xmas break. Good luck to you! M!ke ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294213 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
On Wednesday 05 Dec 2007, mac jordan wrote: CFE just doesn't work like I do. In what way ? It's possible it either needs a new feature adding to the (long !) list, or you've just missed something. Or it might be Eclipse's fault, in which case good luck :-) -- Tom Chiverton Helping to completely negotiate ubiquitous market-growth on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294224 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
I personally prefer DW over CFE however I had to make the switch because of 'Sharing Violation' errors when editing a CSS file that I've previewed in a browser. It seems I'm not the only person to have this problem and it has persisted across multiple versions of DW (and CF). When I rebuild my machine next, I'm going to try to switch back to DW. I really miss that DW would close the most recent element when you type /. -Original Message- From: mac jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse CFEclipse On Dec 5, 2007 10:30 AM, Will Swain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too. I think it's partly just that I'm so used to DW that I can use it in my sleep (sometimes it feels like I do!). I keep trying to make the switch to CFE, but keep coming back to DW. I think I might need to be really strict with myself and force myself to use CFE only for a couple of weeks - if I can't do something then find out how to, rather than just switch back to DW. CFE just doesn't work like I do. I work in a team of two, and a project-based IDE simply doesn't do it for me. I'll stick with DW and CVS. -- mac jordan www.webhorus.net www.nibblous.com www.photocena.com ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductID=1522loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294237 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
Yes, I used it back when I learned VB.NET and enjoyed the IDE greatly. It is the Sharepoint 2007 I am dreading, having a heck of a time finding people that know it that I can run some questions by. Anyway the point I was trying to make on IDE changes without any business reason behind them is that you almost just have to force yourself to change and not go back. On Dec 5, 2007 1:16 PM, Crow T. Robot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was (briefly) doing .NET apps, I loved Visual Studio. Enjoy it! On Dec 5, 2007 12:36 PM, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too have tried the switch to CFE and just not stuck with it. Years ago I forced myself to switch from Homesite/Studio to DW. Back then I had no reason to switch, no complaints about what I was using. I simply switched because figured it was best if I knew another IDE. Took a couple of months for me to get over some missing hot keys I had grown accustomed to and was unable to get all to work in DW how I wanted them to work. So now days when I try to switch to CFE it is for no real reason other than to attempt to learn yet another IDE and I just do not find that reason as appealing as I did years ago. Besides work is pushing us into Sharepoint and .NET so I have an actual need to learn another IDE and language right now which have nothing to do with Eclipse. On Dec 5, 2007 4:30 AM, Will Swain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too. I think it's partly just that I'm so used to DW that I can use it in my sleep (sometimes it feels like I do!). I keep trying to make the switch to CFE, but keep coming back to DW. I think I might need to be really strict with myself and force myself to use CFE only for a couple of weeks - if I can't do something then find out how to, rather than just switch back to DW. ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductID=1522loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294265 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=:emailid:.:userid:.:listid:
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
On Monday 03 Dec 2007, Rick Faircloth wrote: But after reading the discussion on the list about trunk, tree, etc., and whatever else SVN involves, it seems like some serious complication Don't use trunk/tag/branch if they are too much for you (although you should have some way to say 'what is on the live server is r24357'. I'm fairly sure you can make Eclipse auto checkin/out when you edit files. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to administratively pursue visionary applications on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294142 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
Thanks for the info Tom... I think what I need, and maybe it's out there, is a good tutorial on using Eclipse/CFEclipse. I've viewed several videos, read many info pieces on using it, but all of them approach the topic from one perspective. What I'd like to see a several tutorials... (1) Eclipse/CFEclipse/SVN: Beginners (2) Eclipse/CFEclipse/SVN: Intermediate (3) Eclipse/CFEclipse/SVN: Advanced Each with a goal of producing a full working environment appropriate for the level of user. Then, as a user progresses, they can step up to the next level and begin to utilize an Intermediate level of features appropriate to their experience. Too many of the info pieces take a one-style-fits-all, we-assume-you-know-too-much approach and leave those trying to get a handle on the whole thing with no knowledge at all too much in a dark room looking for handles. Thanks for the help! Rick -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 6:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse CFEclipse On Monday 03 Dec 2007, Rick Faircloth wrote: But after reading the discussion on the list about trunk, tree, etc., and whatever else SVN involves, it seems like some serious complication Don't use trunk/tag/branch if they are too much for you (although you should have some way to say 'what is on the live server is r24357'. I'm fairly sure you can make Eclipse auto checkin/out when you edit files. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to administratively pursue visionary applications on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294143 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
Assuming you're an Eclipse/CFEclipse user, how would you respond to this question: Is Ecliple/CFEclipse overkill for an independent developer, who never has to worry about checking code in or out? I am having some trouble keeping my development versions of sites synced with my production versions. It can get quite crazy trying to keep up with what change are where. Which is exactly why you need source control. -Dan ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294145 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
have you seen one on ibm website? i think ben forta blogged it... yes, here: http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/11/8/CFEclipse-Article-On-IBM-developerWorks don't remember if it covered svn, though... --- Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294147 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
Rick, i have been there and i know getting into SVN with cfeclipse can be a task. Here's my advice 1. Use http://www.hosted-projects.com. This is a great service that will host your SVN projects (trac enabled)for only $7 a month. This will save you the biggest job of having to set up a SVN server. With the added bonus of providing you with offsite storage of your SVN projects. 2. Download load http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ You don't need to read all of it, just the basic commands will do to get you started. 3. Install subeclipse client in eclipse, have a brows at its docs. 4. Point subeclipse at a project/repositroy - which you could create very easily at hosted-projects.com 5. Play around with a practice project. SVN is not only for code revsions. You can use it for almost data you need to version i.e. documentation/novels. For non code svn use http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ client. This also is good a way to learn about SVN and the basic commands. Rick Faircloth wrote: Thanks for the info Tom... I think what I need, and maybe it's out there, is a good tutorial on using Eclipse/CFEclipse. I've viewed several videos, read many info pieces on using it, but all of them approach the topic from one perspective. What I'd like to see a several tutorials... (1) Eclipse/CFEclipse/SVN: Beginners (2) Eclipse/CFEclipse/SVN: Intermediate (3) Eclipse/CFEclipse/SVN: Advanced Each with a goal of producing a full working environment appropriate for the level of user. Then, as a user progresses, they can step up to the next level and begin to utilize an Intermediate level of features appropriate to their experience. Too many of the info pieces take a one-style-fits-all, we-assume-you-know-too-much approach and leave those trying to get a handle on the whole thing with no knowledge at all too much in a dark room looking for handles. Thanks for the help! Rick -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 6:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse CFEclipse On Monday 03 Dec 2007, Rick Faircloth wrote: But after reading the discussion on the list about trunk, tree, etc., and whatever else SVN involves, it seems like some serious complication Don't use trunk/tag/branch if they are too much for you (although you should have some way to say 'what is on the live server is r24357'. I'm fairly sure you can make Eclipse auto checkin/out when you edit files. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to administratively pursue visionary applications on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductID=1522loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294158 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
Rick, Actually Aaron West (trajiklyhip.com) has a multi-part tutorial on setting up and configuring Subversion, including tying it to Apache for http access, and using the Subclipse plugin for Eclipse. It won't get you advanced info, and even the intermediate may be lacking, but it is a solid start on using Subversion in conjunction with Eclipse. http://tinyurl.com/ys63c3 Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Rick Faircloth wrote: Thanks for the info Tom... I think what I need, and maybe it's out there, is a good tutorial on using Eclipse/CFEclipse. I've viewed several videos, read many info pieces on using it, but all of them approach the topic from one perspective. What I'd like to see a several tutorials... (1) Eclipse/CFEclipse/SVN: Beginners (2) Eclipse/CFEclipse/SVN: Intermediate (3) Eclipse/CFEclipse/SVN: Advanced Each with a goal of producing a full working environment appropriate for the level of user. Then, as a user progresses, they can step up to the next level and begin to utilize an Intermediate level of features appropriate to their experience. Too many of the info pieces take a one-style-fits-all, we-assume-you-know-too-much approach and leave those trying to get a handle on the whole thing with no knowledge at all too much in a dark room looking for handles. Thanks for the help! Rick -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 6:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse CFEclipse On Monday 03 Dec 2007, Rick Faircloth wrote: But after reading the discussion on the list about trunk, tree, etc., and whatever else SVN involves, it seems like some serious complication Don't use trunk/tag/branch if they are too much for you (although you should have some way to say 'what is on the live server is r24357'. I'm fairly sure you can make Eclipse auto checkin/out when you edit files. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to administratively pursue visionary applications on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294149 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
Thanks, Cutter! I'll definitely check it out! Rick -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:17 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse CFEclipse Rick, Actually Aaron West (trajiklyhip.com) has a multi-part tutorial on setting up and configuring Subversion, including tying it to Apache for http access, and using the Subclipse plugin for Eclipse. It won't get you advanced info, and even the intermediate may be lacking, but it is a solid start on using Subversion in conjunction with Eclipse. http://tinyurl.com/ys63c3 Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294167 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
Thank for the tip, Azadi. I'll check it out! Rick -Original Message- From: Azadi Saryev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 8:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse CFEclipse have you seen one on ibm website? i think ben forta blogged it... yes, here: http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/11/8/CFEclipse-Article-On-IBM-developerWorks don't remember if it covered svn, though... --- Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294168 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
Thanks for the info, Paul! I'll check it out! Rick -Original Message- From: Paul Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse CFEclipse Rick, i have been there and i know getting into SVN with cfeclipse can be a task. Here's my advice 1. Use http://www.hosted-projects.com. This is a great service that will host your SVN projects (trac enabled)for only $7 a month. This will save you the biggest job of having to set up a SVN server. With the added bonus of providing you with offsite storage of your SVN projects. 2. Download load http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ You don't need to read all of it, just the basic commands will do to get you started. 3. Install subeclipse client in eclipse, have a brows at its docs. 4. Point subeclipse at a project/repositroy - which you could create very easily at hosted-projects.com 5. Play around with a practice project. SVN is not only for code revsions. You can use it for almost data you need to version i.e. documentation/novels. For non code svn use http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ client. This also is good a way to learn about SVN and the basic commands. ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294166 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
I hear you, Dan. And like I mentioned earlier, I went to the trouble of installing VMWare Player, an SVN appliance, and TortoiseSVN, but, even after working through the docs, couldn't get to all make sense. I'm going to try working on Eclipse/CFEclipse first, then move on to SVN, if I make it that far. There's just too much assumed knowledge. It's easy to forget what others don't know... Rick -Original Message- From: Dan G. Switzer, II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 8:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Eclipse CFEclipse Assuming you're an Eclipse/CFEclipse user, how would you respond to this question: Is Ecliple/CFEclipse overkill for an independent developer, who never has to worry about checking code in or out? I am having some trouble keeping my development versions of sites synced with my production versions. It can get quite crazy trying to keep up with what change are where. Which is exactly why you need source control. -Dan ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294153 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
There's just too much assumed knowledge. It's easy to forget what others don't know... Rick This is exactly what I encountered. I keep trying CFE, but DW is always there as my stable tool. I will probably give CFE another attempt over xmas break. Good luck to you! M!ke ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294179 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
Why don't you divide it up, try to learn one thing at a time? You do not have to have Eclipse/CFEclipse to be using SVN. So you could start to learn things about SVN and stay on your current Homesite. It might mean checking code in/out via windows explorer or some SVN client but really that is not a huge thing to get in the habit of doing while learning things. I personally use SVN via some plug-in that works with Explorer, I'd have to look to say which plug-in it is since do not recall offhand. On Dec 4, 2007 7:25 AM, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info Tom... I think what I need, and maybe it's out there, is a good tutorial on using Eclipse/CFEclipse. I've viewed several videos, read many info pieces on using it, but all of them approach the topic from one perspective. What I'd like to see a several tutorials... (1) Eclipse/CFEclipse/SVN: Beginners (2) Eclipse/CFEclipse/SVN: Intermediate (3) Eclipse/CFEclipse/SVN: Advanced Each with a goal of producing a full working environment appropriate for the level of user. Then, as a user progresses, they can step up to the next level and begin to utilize an Intermediate level of features appropriate to their experience. Too many of the info pieces take a one-style-fits-all, we-assume-you-know-too-much approach and leave those trying to get a handle on the whole thing with no knowledge at all too much in a dark room looking for handles. Thanks for the help! Rick -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 6:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse CFEclipse On Monday 03 Dec 2007, Rick Faircloth wrote: But after reading the discussion on the list about trunk, tree, etc., and whatever else SVN involves, it seems like some serious complication Don't use trunk/tag/branch if they are too much for you (although you should have some way to say 'what is on the live server is r24357'. I'm fairly sure you can make Eclipse auto checkin/out when you edit files. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to administratively pursue visionary applications on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294169 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
On Tuesday 04 Dec 2007, Rick Faircloth wrote: And like I mentioned earlier, I went to the trouble of installing VMWare Player, an SVN appliance, and TortoiseSVN, but, even after working through the docs, couldn't get to all make sense. Well, you did pick a fairly complex and (for a one man band) over the top method of using SVN... -- Tom Chiverton Helping to collaboratively aggregate eligible design-patterns on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294164 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
Well, see... that's the problem. Being ignorant of the scope of the issue, I can discern where to start, what's simple, what's complex. There's no way to tell all the possibilities until you know everything. By then, it's too late to apply that knowledge at the beginning of the quest... Hmmm... Rick -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse CFEclipse On Tuesday 04 Dec 2007, Rick Faircloth wrote: And like I mentioned earlier, I went to the trouble of installing VMWare Player, an SVN appliance, and TortoiseSVN, but, even after working through the docs, couldn't get to all make sense. Well, you did pick a fairly complex and (for a one man band) over the top method of using SVN... ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294196 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
Thanks, Michael! Rick -Original Message- From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Eclipse CFEclipse There's just too much assumed knowledge. It's easy to forget what others don't know... Rick This is exactly what I encountered. I keep trying CFE, but DW is always there as my stable tool. I will probably give CFE another attempt over xmas break. Good luck to you! M!ke ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductID=1522loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294198 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
Hi, Aaron... Dividing it up is what I'm planning to do. I tried SVN and gave up for now. My more critical need is for a development tool, so I'm going to start with Eclipse/CFEclipse and hopefully, soon move on to SVN. I just couldn't make sense of how TortoiseSVN, etc, was supposed to work and I couldn't spend non-stop time on it. It's still on my system along with VMWare Player and an SVN appliance... I got things set up as best I could in Windows Explorer, but couldn't figure out how it was all supposed to work together. I'll be back for another crack at it, however! Rick -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse CFEclipse Why don't you divide it up, try to learn one thing at a time? You do not have to have Eclipse/CFEclipse to be using SVN. So you could start to learn things about SVN and stay on your current Homesite. It might mean checking code in/out via windows explorer or some SVN client but really that is not a huge thing to get in the habit of doing while learning things. I personally use SVN via some plug-in that works with Explorer, I'd have to look to say which plug-in it is since do not recall offhand. On Dec 4, 2007 7:25 AM, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info Tom... I think what I need, and maybe it's out there, is a good tutorial on using Eclipse/CFEclipse. I've viewed several videos, read many info pieces on using it, but all of them approach the topic from one perspective. What I'd like to see a several tutorials... (1) Eclipse/CFEclipse/SVN: Beginners (2) Eclipse/CFEclipse/SVN: Intermediate (3) Eclipse/CFEclipse/SVN: Advanced Each with a goal of producing a full working environment appropriate for the level of user. Then, as a user progresses, they can step up to the next level and begin to utilize an Intermediate level of features appropriate to their experience. Too many of the info pieces take a one-style-fits-all, we-assume-you-know-too-much approach and leave those trying to get a handle on the whole thing with no knowledge at all too much in a dark room looking for handles. Thanks for the help! Rick -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 6:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse CFEclipse On Monday 03 Dec 2007, Rick Faircloth wrote: But after reading the discussion on the list about trunk, tree, etc., and whatever else SVN involves, it seems like some serious complication Don't use trunk/tag/branch if they are too much for you (although you should have some way to say 'what is on the live server is r24357'. I'm fairly sure you can make Eclipse auto checkin/out when you edit files. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to administratively pursue visionary applications on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294187 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
On Saturday 01 Dec 2007, Rick Faircloth wrote: Can the various sections of the Eclipse interface be dragged onto a second screen apart from the main interface to make more room for viewing code? Right click the tab and choose 'detached'. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to assertively entrench market-driven networks on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294071 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
Thanks for the info, Tom. Assuming you're an Eclipse/CFEclipse user, how would you respond to this question: Is Ecliple/CFEclipse overkill for an independent developer, who never has to worry about checking code in or out? I am having some trouble keeping my development versions of sites synced with my production versions. It can get quite crazy trying to keep up with what change are where. Your take on this? Thanks for your time and feedback. Rick -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 6:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse CFEclipse On Saturday 01 Dec 2007, Rick Faircloth wrote: Can the various sections of the Eclipse interface be dragged onto a second screen apart from the main interface to make more room for viewing code? Right click the tab and choose 'detached'. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to assertively entrench market-driven networks on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductID=1522loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294072 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
I don't know about Tom, but IMHO, even an independent developer should use SVN, it's free and the benefits of it are too great not to use, even if you're working all by yourself. Russ -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Eclipse CFEclipse Thanks for the info, Tom. Assuming you're an Eclipse/CFEclipse user, how would you respond to this question: Is Ecliple/CFEclipse overkill for an independent developer, who never has to worry about checking code in or out? I am having some trouble keeping my development versions of sites synced with my production versions. It can get quite crazy trying to keep up with what change are where. Your take on this? Thanks for your time and feedback. Rick -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 6:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse CFEclipse On Saturday 01 Dec 2007, Rick Faircloth wrote: Can the various sections of the Eclipse interface be dragged onto a second screen apart from the main interface to make more room for viewing code? Right click the tab and choose 'detached'. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to assertively entrench market-driven networks on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294074 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
On Monday 03 Dec 2007, Russ wrote: I don't know about Tom, but IMHO, even an independent developer should use SVN, it's free and the benefits of it are too great not to use, Oh, don't worry, I agree ! -- Tom Chiverton Helping to enormously generate killer systems on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294076 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
Hi, Russ... But after reading the discussion on the list about trunk, tree, etc., and whatever else SVN involves, it seems like some serious complication that I could see being necessary in a multi-developer environment, but I didn't want to use a hammer to kill a mosquito... I actually installed VMWare Player, and picked up a Subversion Virtual Appliance from Young-Technologies.com and ran it. I installed TortoiseSVN, too. But I just couldn't make sense out of what was supposed to being going on, even after reading the guide. I just abandoned it as overkill. However, with HomeSite 5.5 acting a little strangely, I wouldn't mind getting in on Ecliple/CFEclipse. Rick -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Eclipse CFEclipse I don't know about Tom, but IMHO, even an independent developer should use SVN, it's free and the benefits of it are too great not to use, even if you're working all by yourself. Russ -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Eclipse CFEclipse Thanks for the info, Tom. Assuming you're an Eclipse/CFEclipse user, how would you respond to this question: Is Ecliple/CFEclipse overkill for an independent developer, who never has to worry about checking code in or out? I am having some trouble keeping my development versions of sites synced with my production versions. It can get quite crazy trying to keep up with what change are where. Your take on this? Thanks for your time and feedback. Rick -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 6:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse CFEclipse On Saturday 01 Dec 2007, Rick Faircloth wrote: Can the various sections of the Eclipse interface be dragged onto a second screen apart from the main interface to make more room for viewing code? Right click the tab and choose 'detached'. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to assertively entrench market-driven networks on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294079 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
On Dec 3, 2007 6:21 AM, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming you're an Eclipse/CFEclipse user, how would you respond to this question: Is Ecliple/CFEclipse overkill for an independent developer, who never has to worry about checking code in or out? I am having some trouble keeping my development versions of sites synced with my production versions. It can get quite crazy trying to keep up with what change are where. 1) why are you equating eclipse/cfe with checking code in and out? that in and of itself, has little to nothing to do with eclipse/cfe. eclipse is a platform, cfeclipse is a plugin. yes, there are other plugins for version control software (svn, perforce, surround), but whether or not you need to worry about checking code in or out is a completely different question than should I be using eclipse/cfeclipse. 2) there's a cfeclipse mailing list that you might want to subscribe to, even if to just lurk for a while and see what it's all about. see http://groups.google.com/group/cfeclipse-users 3) might also want to peruse the cfeclipse website (http://cfeclipse.org/) 4) since eclipse and cfeclipse are both free (as are a number of other quality plugins), there's really nothing to stop you from downloading it and trying it out on your own. -- Scientists tell us that the fastest animal on earth, with a top speed of 120 feet per second, is a cow that has been dropped out of a helicopter. - Dave Barry ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294081 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
Thanks for the tip on the cfeclipse list, Charlie. I've already signed up. On the matter of SVN and checking code in and out, because I see so much discussion that involved both Eclipse/CFEclipse and SVN, I have been assuming they were part of the same package. Thanks for clearing that up. I've been on the Eclipse/CFEclipse site and done some reading, but it's amazing how misconceptions persist. As far as installing it, I'm asking my final preparation questions before making the leap. Yes, I can install and uninstall, but I hate doing that too much on my system. Parts are always left behind somewhere after uninstalling. And there's always the risk of a system becoming unstable/usable for whatever reason when anything is installed. Just trying to be cautious, trying to look before leaping... Rick -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 11:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse CFEclipse On Dec 3, 2007 6:21 AM, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming you're an Eclipse/CFEclipse user, how would you respond to this question: Is Ecliple/CFEclipse overkill for an independent developer, who never has to worry about checking code in or out? I am having some trouble keeping my development versions of sites synced with my production versions. It can get quite crazy trying to keep up with what change are where. 1) why are you equating eclipse/cfe with checking code in and out? that in and of itself, has little to nothing to do with eclipse/cfe. eclipse is a platform, cfeclipse is a plugin. yes, there are other plugins for version control software (svn, perforce, surround), but whether or not you need to worry about checking code in or out is a completely different question than should I be using eclipse/cfeclipse. 2) there's a cfeclipse mailing list that you might want to subscribe to, even if to just lurk for a while and see what it's all about. see http://groups.google.com/group/cfeclipse-users 3) might also want to peruse the cfeclipse website (http://cfeclipse.org/) 4) since eclipse and cfeclipse are both free (as are a number of other quality plugins), there's really nothing to stop you from downloading it and trying it out on your own. -- Scientists tell us that the fastest animal on earth, with a top speed of 120 feet per second, is a cow that has been dropped out of a helicopter. - Dave Barry ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294092 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Eclipse CFEclipse
On Dec 3, 2007 10:14 AM, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as installing it, I'm asking my final preparation questions before making the leap. Yes, I can install and uninstall, but I hate doing that too much on my system. Parts are always left behind somewhere after uninstalling. And there's always the risk of a system becoming unstable/usable for whatever reason when anything is installed. Yet another advantage of Eclipse. it doesn't get installed the way you're thinking. You extract the install file to a directory, and that's it. You can install it to a folder on your desktop, and run it from there. Then, copy the folder to another location (c:\program files\eclipse, for example) and run it from there. You can pop it on a flash drive and run it from there. to delete it, just delete the folder. no messy remnants left behind. This is a very nice feature when new versions are released. I've had Eclipse 3.2 and Eclipse 3.3 running side by side for some time now. They're just executables running from different locations. It's all very nice and neat :) -- Scientists tell us that the fastest animal on earth, with a top speed of 120 feet per second, is a cow that has been dropped out of a helicopter. - Dave Barry ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294099 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
Rick, It sounds complicated because you're making it complicated. If you're a solo developer, you can get started by creating a repository on your own computer using tortoiseSVN and then accessing it via the file protocol. You can access the repository either using tortoise or subclipse. Get started by creating three folders, branches, tags, and trunk. This is the recommended way to use SVN. Put all your code into trunk, and check it in after you certain milestones. If you do nothing else, you should already be getting benefits out of SVN, by having revision history, being able to go back to an older version of the code, seeing what changed between different revisions and having a backup in a different place. Then head over http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ when you have some spare time, and maybe even sign up for the svn-users list to learn more about subversion. The more you learn about it, the more you're going to love it, but as I showed above, it's pretty simple to get started. Russ -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 11:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Eclipse CFEclipse Hi, Russ... But after reading the discussion on the list about trunk, tree, etc., and whatever else SVN involves, it seems like some serious complication that I could see being necessary in a multi-developer environment, but I didn't want to use a hammer to kill a mosquito... I actually installed VMWare Player, and picked up a Subversion Virtual Appliance from Young-Technologies.com and ran it. I installed TortoiseSVN, too. But I just couldn't make sense out of what was supposed to being going on, even after reading the guide. I just abandoned it as overkill. However, with HomeSite 5.5 acting a little strangely, I wouldn't mind getting in on Ecliple/CFEclipse. Rick -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Eclipse CFEclipse I don't know about Tom, but IMHO, even an independent developer should use SVN, it's free and the benefits of it are too great not to use, even if you're working all by yourself. Russ -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Eclipse CFEclipse Thanks for the info, Tom. Assuming you're an Eclipse/CFEclipse user, how would you respond to this question: Is Ecliple/CFEclipse overkill for an independent developer, who never has to worry about checking code in or out? I am having some trouble keeping my development versions of sites synced with my production versions. It can get quite crazy trying to keep up with what change are where. Your take on this? Thanks for your time and feedback. Rick -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 6:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse CFEclipse On Saturday 01 Dec 2007, Rick Faircloth wrote: Can the various sections of the Eclipse interface be dragged onto a second screen apart from the main interface to make more room for viewing code? Right click the tab and choose 'detached'. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to assertively entrench market-driven networks on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com Please note, as of 10th December 2007 the registered office address of Halliwells LLP will be at 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Download
RE: Eclipse CFEclipse
I had forgotten about that feature! Thanks! Rick -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 2:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse CFEclipse On Dec 3, 2007 10:14 AM, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as installing it, I'm asking my final preparation questions before making the leap. Yes, I can install and uninstall, but I hate doing that too much on my system. Parts are always left behind somewhere after uninstalling. And there's always the risk of a system becoming unstable/usable for whatever reason when anything is installed. Yet another advantage of Eclipse. it doesn't get installed the way you're thinking. You extract the install file to a directory, and that's it. You can install it to a folder on your desktop, and run it from there. Then, copy the folder to another location (c:\program files\eclipse, for example) and run it from there. You can pop it on a flash drive and run it from there. to delete it, just delete the folder. no messy remnants left behind. This is a very nice feature when new versions are released. I've had Eclipse 3.2 and Eclipse 3.3 running side by side for some time now. They're just executables running from different locations. It's all very nice and neat :) -- Scientists tell us that the fastest animal on earth, with a top speed of 120 feet per second, is a cow that has been dropped out of a helicopter. - Dave Barry ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294121 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Eclipse/CFEclipse problem???
Would be interesting to see what Plugins are also installed? The Adobe Jeclipse? -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 February 2007 07:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse problem??? I thought this was fixed in the latest stable release? I had the same problem with a beta version. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Jason Holden To: CF-Talk Sent: Mon Feb 05 00:47:26 2007 Subject: Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse problem??? Maybe unrelated, but there is a current issue with cfscript that produces these symptoms. http://trac.cfeclipse.org/cfeclipse/report/1 Jaime Metcher I believe this is related. The editor is stable as long as I'm not editing javascript or CFScript. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:268630 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse problem???
I'm having a small problem with Eclipse/CFEclipse. Anytime I type the world parent into the editor it causes Eclipse to freeze. javaw.exe pegs my CPU at 100% and I have to forcefully kill the process and restart Eclipse. Has anyone else had this problem? UPDATE: This is not just associated with typing parent, i guess it was just a coiencedence that it happened each time. I'm trying edit javascript and after a few minutes of editing the Eclipse IDE becomes unstable and javaw.exe uses 100% of the CPU. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:268615 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Eclipse/CFEclipse problem???
Maybe unrelated, but there is a current issue with cfscript that produces these symptoms. http://trac.cfeclipse.org/cfeclipse/report/1 Jaime Metcher -Original Message- From: Jason Holden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 5 February 2007 8:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse problem??? I'm having a small problem with Eclipse/CFEclipse. Anytime I type the world parent into the editor it causes Eclipse to freeze. javaw.exe pegs my CPU at 100% and I have to forcefully kill the process and restart Eclipse. Has anyone else had this problem? UPDATE: This is not just associated with typing parent, i guess it was just a coiencedence that it happened each time. I'm trying edit javascript and after a few minutes of editing the Eclipse IDE becomes unstable and javaw.exe uses 100% of the CPU. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:268618 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse problem???
Maybe unrelated, but there is a current issue with cfscript that produces these symptoms. http://trac.cfeclipse.org/cfeclipse/report/1 Jaime Metcher I believe this is related. The editor is stable as long as I'm not editing javascript or CFScript. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:268619 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse problem???
I thought this was fixed in the latest stable release? I had the same problem with a beta version. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Jason Holden To: CF-Talk Sent: Mon Feb 05 00:47:26 2007 Subject: Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse problem??? Maybe unrelated, but there is a current issue with cfscript that produces these symptoms. http://trac.cfeclipse.org/cfeclipse/report/1 Jaime Metcher I believe this is related. The editor is stable as long as I'm not editing javascript or CFScript. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:268628 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete
Is there a single file that stores preferences? Or is it stored in the EXE itself? -Original Message- From: Jacob Munson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 5:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete I knew about the control+shift+o thing, but my goal is to make cfeclipse/eclipse as close to what I spent the last three years getting used to. Yeah, I can understand that. I've just found that I try to limit the customizations I do in Eclipse, because each new machine at home/work takes more time to get setup. But I'm lazy. :) -- My Sites: http://www.techfeed.net/blog/ http://www.cfquickdocs.com/ http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:266371 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete
All the eclipse information is stored in the eclipse folder wherever you put it. The majority of your configuration information is stored in a configuration file in the subdirectories of Eclipse. The reason you can load it anywhere is because it is a Java application, so wherever you can load Java you can load Eclipse. Andy, You keep comapring feature after feature from EditPlus to the Eclipse platform. I know you want to evaluate to see what is best for you, but Eclipse and EditPlus are two distinctly differetn styles of editing. To abuse the cliche, apples and oranges. If you like EditPlus, then use EditPlus. If you like DreamWeaver, then use DreamWeaver. Eclipse appeals to a lot of coders for individual reasons. Some flock to Eclipse because their work has adopted it, others are learning it to stay with the crowd and more people are learning Eclipse because they want to unify Flex Builder with the CF side of things. And also, the CFEclipse mailing list is a great place to ask these questions as well. Teddy On 1/12/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a single file that stores preferences? Or is it stored in the EXE itself? -Original Message- From: Jacob Munson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 5:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete I knew about the control+shift+o thing, but my goal is to make cfeclipse/eclipse as close to what I spent the last three years getting used to. Yeah, I can understand that. I've just found that I try to limit the customizations I do in Eclipse, because each new machine at home/work takes more time to get setup. But I'm lazy. :) -- My Sites: http://www.techfeed.net/blog/ http://www.cfquickdocs.com/ http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:266376 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete
Thanks Teddy... I'm not trying to be negative by any means. I don't have a choice as to what IDE I'm using. My current employer states that I must use eclipse. The drawback is that I've spent the last 4-5 years working in Editplus. I've built up a library of keystrokes, code snippets and behaviours that I'm just trying to match. Thanks for the input though. I do appreciate it greatly. andy -Original Message- From: Teddy Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 8:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete All the eclipse information is stored in the eclipse folder wherever you put it. The majority of your configuration information is stored in a configuration file in the subdirectories of Eclipse. The reason you can load it anywhere is because it is a Java application, so wherever you can load Java you can load Eclipse. Andy, You keep comapring feature after feature from EditPlus to the Eclipse platform. I know you want to evaluate to see what is best for you, but Eclipse and EditPlus are two distinctly differetn styles of editing. To abuse the cliche, apples and oranges. If you like EditPlus, then use EditPlus. If you like DreamWeaver, then use DreamWeaver. Eclipse appeals to a lot of coders for individual reasons. Some flock to Eclipse because their work has adopted it, others are learning it to stay with the crowd and more people are learning Eclipse because they want to unify Flex Builder with the CF side of things. And also, the CFEclipse mailing list is a great place to ask these questions as well. Teddy On 1/12/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a single file that stores preferences? Or is it stored in the EXE itself? -Original Message- From: Jacob Munson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 5:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete I knew about the control+shift+o thing, but my goal is to make cfeclipse/eclipse as close to what I spent the last three years getting used to. Yeah, I can understand that. I've just found that I try to limit the customizations I do in Eclipse, because each new machine at home/work takes more time to get setup. But I'm lazy. :) -- My Sites: http://www.techfeed.net/blog/ http://www.cfquickdocs.com/ http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:266377 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete
I don't know whether it's a single file, but each time I set up a new workspace (I have workspaces for active projects, old projects, future projects and a build environment) I export the preferences from my original workspace and import it into the new workspace. That seems to retain most information. It's been a while since I've done this so I don't recall exactly what it didn't retain. I do know that not every setting was retained, but most settings were. On 1/12/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a single file that stores preferences? Or is it stored in the EXE itself? ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:266378 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete
Andy If you ever have ideas of features that you might think benefit CFEclipse (apart from it just being a copy of EditPlus) let me know. (or let Cutter know and I am sure he will tell me) MD On 1/12/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Teddy... I'm not trying to be negative by any means. I don't have a choice as to what IDE I'm using. My current employer states that I must use eclipse. The drawback is that I've spent the last 4-5 years working in Editplus. I've built up a library of keystrokes, code snippets and behaviours that I'm just trying to match. Thanks for the input though. I do appreciate it greatly. andy -Original Message- From: Teddy Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 8:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete All the eclipse information is stored in the eclipse folder wherever you put it. The majority of your configuration information is stored in a configuration file in the subdirectories of Eclipse. The reason you can load it anywhere is because it is a Java application, so wherever you can load Java you can load Eclipse. Andy, You keep comapring feature after feature from EditPlus to the Eclipse platform. I know you want to evaluate to see what is best for you, but Eclipse and EditPlus are two distinctly differetn styles of editing. To abuse the cliche, apples and oranges. If you like EditPlus, then use EditPlus. If you like DreamWeaver, then use DreamWeaver. Eclipse appeals to a lot of coders for individual reasons. Some flock to Eclipse because their work has adopted it, others are learning it to stay with the crowd and more people are learning Eclipse because they want to unify Flex Builder with the CF side of things. And also, the CFEclipse mailing list is a great place to ask these questions as well. Teddy On 1/12/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a single file that stores preferences? Or is it stored in the EXE itself? -Original Message- From: Jacob Munson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 5:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete I knew about the control+shift+o thing, but my goal is to make cfeclipse/eclipse as close to what I spent the last three years getting used to. Yeah, I can understand that. I've just found that I try to limit the customizations I do in Eclipse, because each new machine at home/work takes more time to get setup. But I'm lazy. :) -- My Sites: http://www.techfeed.net/blog/ http://www.cfquickdocs.com/ http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:266379 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete
It is not a problem. I am just trying to empower people to use the CFEclipse users list so that tehse emails and questions don't get lost. I try to keep ahead of CF-Talk, but this list list is my second largest feed other than Flex Coders, which is simply just a beast. The user's list can answer your questions quicker than just me searching for your emails. A lot of developers hate it or love it when it comes to CFEclipse. As an experienced EditPlus user, the list would enjoy your suggestions on the things that used to work great for you in EditPlus. I am also not trying to advocate against usign CF-Talk as I appreciate all the people who answer the sea of questions here. I am not dirty recruiting so to speak. Also, text is a hard way to convey helpfulness unless you add lots of =) :) ;) or stuff like to suggest that you are not being antagonistic. Also, I did not feel you were being negative either. New is not always better until you understand it. Cheers, Teddy On 1/12/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Teddy... I'm not trying to be negative by any means. I don't have a choice as to what IDE I'm using. My current employer states that I must use eclipse. The drawback is that I've spent the last 4-5 years working in Editplus. I've built up a library of keystrokes, code snippets and behaviours that I'm just trying to match. Thanks for the input though. I do appreciate it greatly. andy -Original Message- From: Teddy Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 8:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete All the eclipse information is stored in the eclipse folder wherever you put it. The majority of your configuration information is stored in a configuration file in the subdirectories of Eclipse. The reason you can load it anywhere is because it is a Java application, so wherever you can load Java you can load Eclipse. Andy, You keep comapring feature after feature from EditPlus to the Eclipse platform. I know you want to evaluate to see what is best for you, but Eclipse and EditPlus are two distinctly differetn styles of editing. To abuse the cliche, apples and oranges. If you like EditPlus, then use EditPlus. If you like DreamWeaver, then use DreamWeaver. Eclipse appeals to a lot of coders for individual reasons. Some flock to Eclipse because their work has adopted it, others are learning it to stay with the crowd and more people are learning Eclipse because they want to unify Flex Builder with the CF side of things. And also, the CFEclipse mailing list is a great place to ask these questions as well. Teddy On 1/12/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a single file that stores preferences? Or is it stored in the EXE itself? -Original Message- From: Jacob Munson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 5:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete I knew about the control+shift+o thing, but my goal is to make cfeclipse/eclipse as close to what I spent the last three years getting used to. Yeah, I can understand that. I've just found that I try to limit the customizations I do in Eclipse, because each new machine at home/work takes more time to get setup. But I'm lazy. :) -- My Sites: http://www.techfeed.net/blog/ http://www.cfquickdocs.com/ http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:266382 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete
Rob you are right. It was a typo. Configuration files not file. There are a lot of different files that update many different areas. Workspaces are meant to keep track of perspectives, views, editor preferences, key bindings..etc. You can of course have many workspaces and multiple versions of Eclipse. How you manage your IDE is mostly configurable by you. I think I read on some forum that some people wished to skin Eclipse. It is a cute idea, but skinnng is ever popular. I am not sure a lot of developers want to change their window borders colors from purple or grey to their favorite college football colors. Teddy On 1/12/07, Rob Wilkerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know whether it's a single file, but each time I set up a new workspace (I have workspaces for active projects, old projects, future projects and a build environment) I export the preferences from my original workspace and import it into the new workspace. That seems to retain most information. It's been a while since I've done this so I don't recall exactly what it didn't retain. I do know that not every setting was retained, but most settings were. On 1/12/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a single file that stores preferences? Or is it stored in the EXE itself? ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:266391 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete
You want code snippets. These are like code templates in Homesite. I've got several set up. I type, for instance: o + ctrl-j and I get: cfoutput##/cfoutput with the cursor sitting between the two pounds. The default shortcut is not ctrl-j, but that's what it is in Homesite (which I'm used to) so I remapped it. It was sort of a pain in the butt, but it's over now, and I'm happy. :o) Code snippets can be set up from the Snip Tree View. If it's not already on your screen. Click Window Show View Snip Tree View. Once you've got it open, click on the + to create a new snip. I think the rest is fairly self explanatory, but if you need help, just give a holler. Cheers, Chris Andy Matthews wrote: In Editplus, you can define an autocomplete file. This file allows the user to type a string and have Editplus finish the rest for you. It's sort of like autocomplete in Eclipse, but not as smart. I type: cfloop I get: cfloop index= list=## from=1 to= step=1 query= /cfloop So instead of a running autocomplete, it just finishes the rest of the tag for me (with whatever attributes I've got set up in my autocomplete file). Is this possible? Andy Matthews Senior Coldfusion Developer Office: 877.707.5467 x747 Direct: 615.627.9747 Fax: 615.467.6249 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dealerskins.com http://www.dealerskins.com/ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:266339 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete
You want code snippets. These are like code templates in Homesite. I've got several set up. I type, for instance: o + ctrl-j and I get: cfoutput##/cfoutput with the cursor sitting between the two pounds. By the way, Ctrl-Shift-O does the cfoutput thing, minus the hashes. But if you've got CFEclipse configured to auto-close hashes, it just another keystroke. Of course, your snippet works fine too. :) -- My Sites: http://www.techfeed.net/blog/ http://www.cfquickdocs.com/ http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:266341 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete
I personally hate that eclipse/cfeclipse auto closes *anything* for me. It's the very first thing I turn off. I still have not found a way to turn it off if I'm in a script block. :o( I knew about the control+shift+o thing, but my goal is to make cfeclipse/eclipse as close to what I spent the last three years getting used to. It's just a preference thing, really. Which is what it sounds like the original poster wants. :o) Cheers, Chris Jacob Munson wrote: You want code snippets. These are like code templates in Homesite. I've got several set up. I type, for instance: o + ctrl-j and I get: cfoutput##/cfoutput with the cursor sitting between the two pounds. By the way, Ctrl-Shift-O does the cfoutput thing, minus the hashes. But if you've got CFEclipse configured to auto-close hashes, it just another keystroke. Of course, your snippet works fine too. :) -- http://cjordan.info ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:266342 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete
I knew about the control+shift+o thing, but my goal is to make cfeclipse/eclipse as close to what I spent the last three years getting used to. Yeah, I can understand that. I've just found that I try to limit the customizations I do in Eclipse, because each new machine at home/work takes more time to get setup. But I'm lazy. :) -- My Sites: http://www.techfeed.net/blog/ http://www.cfquickdocs.com/ http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:266343 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete
Right. I understand that. I really wish I could export all my customizations to a file (xml or whatever) so that if I get to a new machine with a fresh install or in any other way not customized to my liking, I could just load my customization file. I'd keep it on a thumb drive or something. Does anyone know if that's possible? Maybe it should be made as a suggestion to the eclipse development team. :o' Cheers, Chris Jacob Munson wrote: I knew about the control+shift+o thing, but my goal is to make cfeclipse/eclipse as close to what I spent the last three years getting used to. Yeah, I can understand that. I've just found that I try to limit the customizations I do in Eclipse, because each new machine at home/work takes more time to get setup. But I'm lazy. :) -- http://cjordan.info ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:266345 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete
Anything to do with eclipse is in the workspace, so just copy that to where you want it. If that is your USB drive, or stick then so be it. I personally have my eclipse and workspace on my USB HD so that I can travel with it anywhere. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: Christopher Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 12 January 2007 10:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete Right. I understand that. I really wish I could export all my customizations to a file (xml or whatever) so that if I get to a new machine with a fresh install or in any other way not customized to my liking, I could just load my customization file. I'd keep it on a thumb drive or something. Does anyone know if that's possible? Maybe it should be made as a suggestion to the eclipse development team. :o' Cheers, Chris ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:266356 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete
Sweet! I never realized that. Thanks Andrew! :o) Cheers, Chris Andrew Scott wrote: Anything to do with eclipse is in the workspace, so just copy that to where you want it. If that is your USB drive, or stick then so be it. I personally have my eclipse and workspace on my USB HD so that I can travel with it anywhere. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: Christopher Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 12 January 2007 10:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse/CFEclipse and autocomplete Right. I understand that. I really wish I could export all my customizations to a file (xml or whatever) so that if I get to a new machine with a fresh install or in any other way not customized to my liking, I could just load my customization file. I'd keep it on a thumb drive or something. Does anyone know if that's possible? Maybe it should be made as a suggestion to the eclipse development team. :o' Cheers, Chris ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:266357 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap??
Last I heard the devs thought it would be a lot of work to implement. I also heard the comment that no one wants it. I would like this feature, too. Isn't this supported in the newest Eclipse? -Chase Application Developer B U L L H O R N 313 Congress St, 4th Floor Boston, MA 02210 617.478.9119 www.bullhorn.com -Original Message- From:Damien McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk ; Sent: Oct 11, 2005 04:53:14 PM Subject: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap?? Does anyone know the status of wordwrap getting added to either the core Eclipse platform or cfeclipse? Its kinda awkward not having it. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220767 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap??
Is the CFEClipse project dead? There haven't been any updates or posts to the CFEClipse development list for a few months now... Or is spike just busy with all the CF conferences? -Original Message- From: Chase Seibert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 5:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap?? Last I heard the devs thought it would be a lot of work to implement. I also heard the comment that no one wants it. I would like this feature, too. Isn't this supported in the newest Eclipse? -Chase Application Developer B U L L H O R N 313 Congress St, 4th Floor Boston, MA 02210 617.478.9119 www.bullhorn.com -Original Message- From:Damien McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk ; Sent: Oct 11, 2005 04:53:14 PM Subject: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap?? Does anyone know the status of wordwrap getting added to either the core Eclipse platform or cfeclipse? Its kinda awkward not having it. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220770 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap??
Hey Guys, There are several people that would like to see this feature added. However as I understand it the word-wrap features is at odds with the code-folding feature and it has a much larger following. So unless the following of users that wish to see word-wrap outpasses those who enjoy code folding, I dont see it soon. Now that being said, if anyone would like to volunteer to both write the word-wrap and create a preference to turn off the code-folding, then I would love to have a chat with you :) Cheers, simeon On 11 Oct 2005 17:06:53 -0400, Chase Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last I heard the devs thought it would be a lot of work to implement. I also heard the comment that no one wants it. I would like this feature, too. Isn't this supported in the newest Eclipse? -Chase Application Developer B U L L H O R N 313 Congress St, 4th Floor Boston, MA 02210 617.478.9119 www.bullhorn.com http://www.bullhorn.com -Original Message- From:Damien McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk ; Sent: Oct 11, 2005 04:53:14 PM Subject: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap?? Does anyone know the status of wordwrap getting added to either the core Eclipse platform or cfeclipse? Its kinda awkward not having it. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220771 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap??
No, it's FAR from dead. In fact, Macromedia/Adobe are going to be officially supporting the project (if that isn't already happening). We can all expect many more great things from CFeclipse in the future. It may have quieted down as they get everything organized. You can read a bit on it here: http://www.fusionauthority.com/Community/Article.cfm/ArticleID:4534 and here (via John Dowdell's blog): http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2005/08/cfeclipse_conte.cfm -- Rob Redford :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message was sent on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 @ 3:55:06 PM __ If I read a read a book that cost me $20 and I get one good idea, I've gotten one of the greatest bargains of all time. -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap?? Is the CFEClipse project dead? There haven't been any updates or posts to the CFEClipse development list for a few months now... Or is spike just busy with all the CF conferences? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220773 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap??
On 10/11/05, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the CFEClipse project dead? There haven't been any updates or posts to the CFEClipse development list for a few months now... Or is spike just busy with all the CF conferences? hum well Spike is busy with stuff (he is out of the country at the minute), but... um... the cfeclipse project is by the community for the community, not it's not by Spike. While I don't want to belittle Spike's contributions by any means, the cfeclipse project is not dependant on any one person. At present, Mark Drew is working on some of the help features, and I am working on the dictionary switcher (so one can code in cf5.0 and cf7 at the same time). Aside from that we've been getting a project plan, priority list, and road map together - that meeting has been impacted by MAX and all the other conferences going on. We did just release a bit ago too - 1.2 http://www.cfeclipse.org. If you are on the topica list, there is almost no traffic there. There is traffic on the developers list however on the tigris site http://cfeclipse.tigris.org Cheers, rob -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220774 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap??
Well all I know is that I posted a bug back in August, and that was the last message (as far as I know) on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list Russ -Original Message- From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 6:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap?? On 10/11/05, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the CFEClipse project dead? There haven't been any updates or posts to the CFEClipse development list for a few months now... Or is spike just busy with all the CF conferences? hum well Spike is busy with stuff (he is out of the country at the minute), but... um... the cfeclipse project is by the community for the community, not it's not by Spike. While I don't want to belittle Spike's contributions by any means, the cfeclipse project is not dependant on any one person. At present, Mark Drew is working on some of the help features, and I am working on the dictionary switcher (so one can code in cf5.0 and cf7 at the same time). Aside from that we've been getting a project plan, priority list, and road map together - that meeting has been impacted by MAX and all the other conferences going on. We did just release a bit ago too - 1.2 http://www.cfeclipse.org. If you are on the topica list, there is almost no traffic there. There is traffic on the developers list however on the tigris site http://cfeclipse.tigris.org Cheers, rob -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220778 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap??
Yeah topica has fallen by the wayside it seems. To quote Sean Corfield from one of his responses on that list... I didn't even realize this list still existed. All the activity is over on the Tigris lists (users, dev, cvs, issues). There was a bit of chatter on topica last week, but it's really died down. Tigris is about the same traffic wise, but it's more developer focused. One thing we need to fix - as if there is just one ;) - is the fragmentation of where to get information about the project. We tried to fix that in the past, but it seems to have made it worse :-/. It's one of the agenda items on that meeting I was talking about. Which bug was it btw? Was it one of these: http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/issues/buglist.cgi?Submit+query=Submit+querycomponent=cfeclipseissue_status=NEWissue_status=STARTEDissue_status=REOPENEDemail1=emailtype1=exactemailassigned_to1=1email2=emailtype2=exactemailreporter2=1issueidtype=includeissue_id=changedin=votes=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=short_desc=short_desc_type=substringlong_desc=long_desc_type=substringissue_file_loc=issue_file_loc_type=substringstatus_whiteboard=status_whiteboard_type=substringfield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0=cmdtype=doitorder=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Holy cow that's a link... On 10/11/05, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well all I know is that I posted a bug back in August, and that was the last message (as far as I know) on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list Russ -Original Message- From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 6:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap?? On 10/11/05, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the CFEClipse project dead? There haven't been any updates or posts to the CFEClipse development list for a few months now... Or is spike just busy with all the CF conferences? hum well Spike is busy with stuff (he is out of the country at the minute), but... um... the cfeclipse project is by the community for the community, not it's not by Spike. While I don't want to belittle Spike's contributions by any means, the cfeclipse project is not dependant on any one person. At present, Mark Drew is working on some of the help features, and I am working on the dictionary switcher (so one can code in cf5.0 and cf7 at the same time). Aside from that we've been getting a project plan, priority list, and road map together - that meeting has been impacted by MAX and all the other conferences going on. We did just release a bit ago too - 1.2 http://www.cfeclipse.org. If you are on the topica list, there is almost no traffic there. There is traffic on the developers list however on the tigris site http://cfeclipse.tigris.org Cheers, rob -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220779 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap??
I don't think it was one of those bugs. It referred to the way that the new FTP plugin doesn't handle errors well. As in, if the connection drops for some reason, or times out, it just starts throwing errors. (a workaround is to browse the ftp site again, i.e. to change folders, and then the save goes smoothly.). So basically a try catch is needed that just reconnects to the ftp server should the connection fail. Russ -Original Message- From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 7:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap?? Yeah topica has fallen by the wayside it seems. To quote Sean Corfield from one of his responses on that list... I didn't even realize this list still existed. All the activity is over on the Tigris lists (users, dev, cvs, issues). There was a bit of chatter on topica last week, but it's really died down. Tigris is about the same traffic wise, but it's more developer focused. One thing we need to fix - as if there is just one ;) - is the fragmentation of where to get information about the project. We tried to fix that in the past, but it seems to have made it worse :-/. It's one of the agenda items on that meeting I was talking about. Which bug was it btw? Was it one of these: http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/issues/buglist.cgi?Submit+query=Submit+querycom ponent=cfeclipseissue_status=NEWissue_status=STARTEDissue_status=REOPENED email1=emailtype1=exactemailassigned_to1=1email2=emailtype2=exactemail reporter2=1issueidtype=includeissue_id=changedin=votes=chfieldfrom=chf ieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=short_desc=short_desc_type=substringlong_desc=lo ng_desc_type=substringissue_file_loc=issue_file_loc_type=substringstatus_ whiteboard=status_whiteboard_type=substringfield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noop value0-0-0=cmdtype=doitorder=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Holy cow that's a link... On 10/11/05, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well all I know is that I posted a bug back in August, and that was the last message (as far as I know) on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list Russ -Original Message- From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 6:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap?? On 10/11/05, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the CFEClipse project dead? There haven't been any updates or posts to the CFEClipse development list for a few months now... Or is spike just busy with all the CF conferences? hum well Spike is busy with stuff (he is out of the country at the minute), but... um... the cfeclipse project is by the community for the community, not it's not by Spike. While I don't want to belittle Spike's contributions by any means, the cfeclipse project is not dependant on any one person. At present, Mark Drew is working on some of the help features, and I am working on the dictionary switcher (so one can code in cf5.0 and cf7 at the same time). Aside from that we've been getting a project plan, priority list, and road map together - that meeting has been impacted by MAX and all the other conferences going on. We did just release a bit ago too - 1.2 http://www.cfeclipse.org. If you are on the topica list, there is almost no traffic there. There is traffic on the developers list however on the tigris site http://cfeclipse.tigris.org Cheers, rob -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220781 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap??
On 10/11/05, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the CFEClipse project dead? There haven't been any updates or posts to the CFEClipse development list for a few months now... Or is spike just busy with all the CF conferences? The users list on tigris is pretty active right now with folks discussing features / enhancements and general how-to stuff. The issues list is pretty slow (people are not submitting bugs!) and the CVS checkin list is reasonably active (Jared R-H submitted some bug fixes a couple of weeks ago, Spike committed some fixes, Rob committed a bunch of changes). So, no, the project is far from dead but the contrib list on topica is pretty dead (as is the cfeclipse list on HoF). -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 100, yes 100, invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220782 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap??
Ok, if anyone asks again it's Issue 323. Cheers Russ, rob On 10/11/05, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it was one of those bugs. It referred to the way that the new FTP plugin doesn't handle errors well. As in, if the connection drops for some reason, or times out, it just starts throwing errors. (a workaround is to browse the ftp site again, i.e. to change folders, and then the save goes smoothly.). So basically a try catch is needed that just reconnects to the ftp server should the connection fail. Russ -Original Message- From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 7:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap?? Yeah topica has fallen by the wayside it seems. To quote Sean Corfield from one of his responses on that list... I didn't even realize this list still existed. All the activity is over on the Tigris lists (users, dev, cvs, issues). There was a bit of chatter on topica last week, but it's really died down. Tigris is about the same traffic wise, but it's more developer focused. One thing we need to fix - as if there is just one ;) - is the fragmentation of where to get information about the project. We tried to fix that in the past, but it seems to have made it worse :-/. It's one of the agenda items on that meeting I was talking about. Which bug was it btw? Was it one of these: http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/issues/buglist.cgi?Submit+query=Submit+querycom ponent=cfeclipseissue_status=NEWissue_status=STARTEDissue_status=REOPENED email1=emailtype1=exactemailassigned_to1=1email2=emailtype2=exactemail reporter2=1issueidtype=includeissue_id=changedin=votes=chfieldfrom=chf ieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=short_desc=short_desc_type=substringlong_desc=lo ng_desc_type=substringissue_file_loc=issue_file_loc_type=substringstatus_ whiteboard=status_whiteboard_type=substringfield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noop value0-0-0=cmdtype=doitorder=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Holy cow that's a link... On 10/11/05, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well all I know is that I posted a bug back in August, and that was the last message (as far as I know) on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list Russ -Original Message- From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 6:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap?? On 10/11/05, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the CFEClipse project dead? There haven't been any updates or posts to the CFEClipse development list for a few months now... Or is spike just busy with all the CF conferences? hum well Spike is busy with stuff (he is out of the country at the minute), but... um... the cfeclipse project is by the community for the community, not it's not by Spike. While I don't want to belittle Spike's contributions by any means, the cfeclipse project is not dependant on any one person. At present, Mark Drew is working on some of the help features, and I am working on the dictionary switcher (so one can code in cf5.0 and cf7 at the same time). Aside from that we've been getting a project plan, priority list, and road map together - that meeting has been impacted by MAX and all the other conferences going on. We did just release a bit ago too - 1.2 http://www.cfeclipse.org. If you are on the topica list, there is almost no traffic there. There is traffic on the developers list however on the tigris site http://cfeclipse.tigris.org Cheers, rob -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220783 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap??
I mean that as in - I just added it as Issue 323 we didnt have it logged before :) On 10/11/05, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, if anyone asks again it's Issue 323. Cheers Russ, rob On 10/11/05, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it was one of those bugs. It referred to the way that the new FTP plugin doesn't handle errors well. As in, if the connection drops for some reason, or times out, it just starts throwing errors. (a workaround is to browse the ftp site again, i.e. to change folders, and then the save goes smoothly.). So basically a try catch is needed that just reconnects to the ftp server should the connection fail. Russ -Original Message- From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 7:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap?? Yeah topica has fallen by the wayside it seems. To quote Sean Corfield from one of his responses on that list... I didn't even realize this list still existed. All the activity is over on the Tigris lists (users, dev, cvs, issues). There was a bit of chatter on topica last week, but it's really died down. Tigris is about the same traffic wise, but it's more developer focused. One thing we need to fix - as if there is just one ;) - is the fragmentation of where to get information about the project. We tried to fix that in the past, but it seems to have made it worse :-/. It's one of the agenda items on that meeting I was talking about. Which bug was it btw? Was it one of these: http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/issues/buglist.cgi?Submit+query=Submit+querycom ponent=cfeclipseissue_status=NEWissue_status=STARTEDissue_status=REOPENED email1=emailtype1=exactemailassigned_to1=1email2=emailtype2=exactemail reporter2=1issueidtype=includeissue_id=changedin=votes=chfieldfrom=chf ieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=short_desc=short_desc_type=substringlong_desc=lo ng_desc_type=substringissue_file_loc=issue_file_loc_type=substringstatus_ whiteboard=status_whiteboard_type=substringfield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noop value0-0-0=cmdtype=doitorder=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Holy cow that's a link... On 10/11/05, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well all I know is that I posted a bug back in August, and that was the last message (as far as I know) on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list Russ -Original Message- From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 6:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap?? On 10/11/05, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the CFEClipse project dead? There haven't been any updates or posts to the CFEClipse development list for a few months now... Or is spike just busy with all the CF conferences? hum well Spike is busy with stuff (he is out of the country at the minute), but... um... the cfeclipse project is by the community for the community, not it's not by Spike. While I don't want to belittle Spike's contributions by any means, the cfeclipse project is not dependant on any one person. At present, Mark Drew is working on some of the help features, and I am working on the dictionary switcher (so one can code in cf5.0 and cf7 at the same time). Aside from that we've been getting a project plan, priority list, and road map together - that meeting has been impacted by MAX and all the other conferences going on. We did just release a bit ago too - 1.2 http://www.cfeclipse.org. If you are on the topica list, there is almost no traffic there. There is traffic on the developers list however on the tigris site http://cfeclipse.tigris.org Cheers, rob -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220784 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Eclipse / cfeclipse - wordwrap??
From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So, no, the project is far from dead but the contrib list on topica is pretty dead (as is the cfeclipse list on HoF). Well at least we still have He3 :-) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220786 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
