Re: [computer-go] computer go documentation issues
On 3/19/07, Roland Illig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Christopher wrote: Taking a look at computer go documentation, I see that there are (at least) three pages that exist in wiki format for top level computer go wiki pages- wikipedia.org - computer go sensei - computer go sensei - computer go programming It seems obvious that these are redundant. It seems prudent to combine them in one location. Which location? I am thinking that wikipedia would be the main page. Wikipedia is not a discussion forum. It aims to be an encyclopedia. I would very much welcome if the computer go pages at Sensei's Library covered even more topics. Assuming that a mailing list is for discussing things, where do the results end up? For me, Sensei's Library would be a perfect place. As I understand it, if a consensus has been reached on this list, then the results can be reported on wikipedia, providing that links to messages in the archives are used to support the report. Links to specific published papers (details can be found on the computer-go bibliography, presumably) also go down very well and should be among the first things added to a page, since they add early gravitas to a page which is likely to prevent speedy deletion. Pages should NOT be added to wikipedia if unless the individual creating them intends to make a significant effort to create real content for the page. cheers stuart (a long-time wikipedia editor, but not a wikipedia admin) ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] computer go documentation issues
I agree. The feel of sensei's and wikipedia are completely different. Most of the content on sensei's is too informal for wikipedia, and I think it would get deleted if it was put there, despite this content being very worthwhile. On the other hand, wikipedia is the ideal place for a short authoritative introduction. At 13:25 19/03/2007, dons wrote: Sensei and Wikipedia serve somewhat different purposes and I believe they should both be kept up to date. I don't believe the detail of Sensei's Library should be covered by Wikipedia. If I first wanted to get acquainted with some subject I might look it up in an encyclopedia to get an overview, then I would look for more detailed information in a book or other publications. I think this is how the two should work together. - Don ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] computer go documentation issues
Peter Christopher wrote: Taking a look at computer go documentation, I see that there are (at least) three pages that exist in wiki format for top level computer go wiki pages- wikipedia.org - computer go sensei - computer go sensei - computer go programming It seems obvious that these are redundant. It seems prudent to combine them in one location. Which location? I am thinking that wikipedia would be the main page. Wikipedia is not a discussion forum. It aims to be an encyclopedia. I would very much welcome if the computer go pages at Sensei's Library covered even more topics. Assuming that a mailing list is for discussing things, where do the results end up? For me, Sensei's Library would be a perfect place. Roland ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] computer go documentation issues
Sensei and Wikipedia serve somewhat different purposes and I believe they should both be kept up to date. I don't believe the detail of Sensei's Library should be covered by Wikipedia. If I first wanted to get acquainted with some subject I might look it up in an encyclopedia to get an overview, then I would look for more detailed information in a book or other publications. I think this is how the two should work together. - Don On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 14:03 +0100, Roland Illig wrote: Peter Christopher wrote: Taking a look at computer go documentation, I see that there are (at least) three pages that exist in wiki format for top level computer go wiki pages- wikipedia.org - computer go sensei - computer go sensei - computer go programming It seems obvious that these are redundant. It seems prudent to combine them in one location. Which location? I am thinking that wikipedia would be the main page. Wikipedia is not a discussion forum. It aims to be an encyclopedia. I would very much welcome if the computer go pages at Sensei's Library covered even more topics. Assuming that a mailing list is for discussing things, where do the results end up? For me, Sensei's Library would be a perfect place. Roland ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] computer go documentation issues
Taking a look at computer go documentation, I see that there are (at least) three pages that exist in wiki format for top level computer go wiki pages- wikipedia.org - computer go sensei - computer go sensei - computer go programming It seems obvious that these are redundant. It seems prudent to combine them in one location. Which location? I am thinking that wikipedia would be the main page. The other two (sensei pages) would temporarily just get a big heading on top saying THIS PAGE IS FOR HISTORICAL REFERENCE ONLY. OFFICIAL WIKI COMPUTER GO PAGE IS AT WIKIPEDIA.ORG. FOLLOW THIS LINK. On a related note, should *any* computer go documentation be at sensei? Maybe everything other than the main page? Or maybe everything in computer go should be moved to wikipedia? At the very least, we ought to make prominent notes on the wikipedia and sensei pages of the existence of the other. Any opinions? Peter ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/