Re: [computer-go] computer go documentation issues

2007-03-23 Thread Stuart A. Yeates

On 3/19/07, Roland Illig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Peter Christopher wrote:
 Taking a look at computer go documentation, I see that there are (at
 least) three pages that exist in wiki format for top level computer go
  wiki pages-

 wikipedia.org - computer go
 sensei - computer go
 sensei - computer go programming

 It seems obvious that these are redundant.  It seems prudent to combine
 them in one location.  Which location?  I am thinking that wikipedia
 would be the main page.

Wikipedia is not a discussion forum. It aims to be an encyclopedia.

I would very much welcome if the computer go pages at Sensei's Library
covered even more topics. Assuming that a mailing list is for discussing
things, where do the results end up? For me, Sensei's Library would be a
perfect place.


As I understand it, if a consensus has been reached on this list, then
the results can be reported on wikipedia, providing that links to
messages in the archives are used to support the report. Links to
specific published papers (details can be found on the computer-go
bibliography, presumably) also go down very well and should be among
the first things added to a page, since they add early gravitas to a
page which is likely to prevent speedy deletion.

Pages should NOT be added to wikipedia if unless the individual
creating them intends to make a significant effort to create real
content for the page.

cheers
stuart
(a long-time wikipedia editor, but not a wikipedia admin)
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Re: [computer-go] computer go documentation issues

2007-03-22 Thread Tom Cooper

I agree.  The feel of sensei's and wikipedia are completely different.
Most of the content on sensei's is too informal for wikipedia, and I
think it would get deleted if it was put there, despite this content
being very worthwhile.  On the other hand,
wikipedia is the ideal place for a short authoritative introduction.

At 13:25 19/03/2007, dons wrote:


Sensei and Wikipedia serve somewhat different purposes and I
believe they should both be kept up to date.

I don't believe the detail of Sensei's Library should be
covered by Wikipedia.   If I first wanted to get acquainted
with some subject I might look it up in an encyclopedia to
get an overview, then I would look for more detailed information
in a book or other publications.   I think this is how the
two should work together.

- Don


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Re: [computer-go] computer go documentation issues

2007-03-19 Thread Roland Illig

Peter Christopher wrote:
Taking a look at computer go documentation, I see that there are (at 
least) three pages that exist in wiki format for top level computer go 
 wiki pages-


wikipedia.org - computer go
sensei - computer go
sensei - computer go programming

It seems obvious that these are redundant.  It seems prudent to combine 
them in one location.  Which location?  I am thinking that wikipedia 
would be the main page.


Wikipedia is not a discussion forum. It aims to be an encyclopedia.

I would very much welcome if the computer go pages at Sensei's Library 
covered even more topics. Assuming that a mailing list is for discussing 
things, where do the results end up? For me, Sensei's Library would be a 
perfect place.


Roland
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Re: [computer-go] computer go documentation issues

2007-03-19 Thread Don Dailey
Sensei and Wikipedia serve somewhat different purposes and I
believe they should both be kept up to date.  

I don't believe the detail of Sensei's Library should be
covered by Wikipedia.   If I first wanted to get acquainted
with some subject I might look it up in an encyclopedia to
get an overview, then I would look for more detailed information
in a book or other publications.   I think this is how the
two should work together.

- Don







On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 14:03 +0100, Roland Illig wrote:
 Peter Christopher wrote:
  Taking a look at computer go documentation, I see that there are (at 
  least) three pages that exist in wiki format for top level computer go 
   wiki pages-
  
  wikipedia.org - computer go
  sensei - computer go
  sensei - computer go programming
  
  It seems obvious that these are redundant.  It seems prudent to combine 
  them in one location.  Which location?  I am thinking that wikipedia 
  would be the main page.
 
 Wikipedia is not a discussion forum. It aims to be an encyclopedia.
 
 I would very much welcome if the computer go pages at Sensei's Library 
 covered even more topics. Assuming that a mailing list is for discussing 
 things, where do the results end up? For me, Sensei's Library would be a 
 perfect place.
 
 Roland
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[computer-go] computer go documentation issues

2007-03-18 Thread Peter Christopher
Taking a look at computer go documentation, I see that there are (at 
least) three pages that exist in wiki format for top level computer go 
 wiki pages-


wikipedia.org - computer go
sensei - computer go
sensei - computer go programming

It seems obvious that these are redundant.  It seems prudent to combine 
them in one location.  Which location?  I am thinking that wikipedia 
would be the main page.  The other two (sensei pages) would temporarily 
just get a big heading on top saying THIS PAGE IS FOR HISTORICAL 
REFERENCE ONLY.  OFFICIAL WIKI COMPUTER GO PAGE IS AT WIKIPEDIA.ORG. 
FOLLOW THIS LINK.


On a related note, should *any* computer go documentation be at sensei?
Maybe everything other than the main page? Or maybe everything in 
computer go should be moved to wikipedia?


At the very least, we ought to make prominent notes on the wikipedia and 
sensei pages of the existence of the other.


Any opinions?

Peter
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