[CGUYS] Macs don't break ...was, Slow USB after update
Paula, It sounds like the USB has gone back a step. How much memory does the machine have? From your description, it sounds as if just the USB devices are affected, none of the other systems, right? Use the System Profiler and check that the USB subsystem chain is checking out at USB 2 speeds for the bus and the devices. Also, to check if the OSX is the culprit it becomes interesting. 1) Put your laptop in Firewire 'Target' mode 2) Attach the FW Target mode laptop to the iMac via Firewire. 3) Use the Startup Disk section (control panel) of the System Preferences and choose the external version of OS X on the laptop as your startup disk. (this is the version that has not been updated) Boot the computer from that external disk. 4) Test the USB device transfer speed by hooking a device up to the USB port on the iMac. If the USB transfer rates are back to normal, then you've narrowed it down. The converse can be tested by flipping it. Put the iMac in Target mode and boot the laptop from the OS X volume on the iMac. If the laptop USB runs slower, then the files that make up OS X on the iMac are the culprit. This is step one, to verify that it is the OS X on your iMac that is affecting the USB subsystem speed. If it is not, then we have to look at if there was a firmware update or the USB itself. Start with the Target mode FW boot test first and let us know what the results are. Oh, and the FW Target mode can help speed up the backup for the iMac as well, unless you are using gigabit ethernet. Rocky *** Date:Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:08:40 -0400 From:Paula Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Macs don't break ...was (Re: [CGUYS] Tinkerers in the treehouse) betty said: Macs last a long time. They don't break, generally. Yeah, well,maybe. Unless Apple breaks it for you. I updated my iMac G5 with the latest security updates and now EVERYTHING that needs to be transferred to or from it via USB connection (memory cards, podcasts from itunes to iPod, backups to ext. drives) takes HOURS to transfer and one backup drive doesn't even mount. Visits to the discussion groups at Apple haven't helped. Only one person with suggestionsreinstall the 10.9 combo updater.has offered help and it didn't work. He now suggests clearing the PRAM but I'm worried about doing it and finding that it won't boot at all. It will take me days at this rate to back everything up since just one MS of pics can take 6-8 hrs to transfer. I've been putting the pics on my MacBook Pro and transferring over the network and that works fine but it's extra steps..and doens't solve the problem of updating the iPod since all my music, tv and podcasts are on the iMac. Needless to say, I won't be applying those security updates to my laptop. Shades of Bill Gates! Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO what a ride! Have a wonderful day! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Savvy Senator?
Kinda makes my original point, don't ya think? Nope. Makes mine. When an authority in the field gives a first person account that contradicts one of your previous assertions and you immediately respond by attacking the credentials of that authority it is a bad sign. When the contortions required to maintain a certain belief become extreme it is time to reexamine the belief. Take off the ideological blinders please! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones
In the news: more on colony collapse syndrome. In Tuesday's New York Times science section, there was a long article on disappearing bees and the research to find the causes. The scientists quoted in the article seemed to think that the causes for the syndrome were probably insecticides or pathogens rather than cellphone towers, but that the research-which is being fast-tracked--wasn't far enough along to tell anything for sure. For those in the WAMU listening area, To the Point (scheduled at 3 p.m.) is supposed to discuss colony collapse syndrome today. (To the Point is a syndicated show that appears on many public radio stations, though at different times.) At least that was the announcement. (You also get David Petraeus and women's rights in Latin America, according to the show's website, www.kcrw.com/news/programs/tp.) Maybe we won't have to lose our cellphones after all to save the crops. Just as well-I can imagine the HUGE protests if businesses (and teenagers) were asked to give up their precious cellphones and blackberries to save a BUG. The political battle to get rid of the relevant insecticides, or other environmental hazards, will be bad enough. Constance Warner * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] CanSecWest Mac Hacking Contest
This URL from ComputerWorld (including the comments) provides additional information. I also read another article I have lost the reference to, that I thought was amusing. After no one was able to win the original contest, they changed the rules. g http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9017598source=NLT_AMnlid=1 -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] DVD-R or DVD+R recording blanks?
Fred, DVD-R will work with old and new players. DVD+r should work in any players made in the last few years, and some before that. - Brian - Original Message - From: Fred Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:40 am Subject: [CGUYS] DVD-R or DVD+R recording blanks? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM In recording/burning a video (not data) DVD to be played on an entertainment DVD player hooked to a television set, is it better to use DVD-R blanks or DVD+R blanks? I'm wanting to burn several copies of a video DVD to give to members of a board to take home and view at home, and I'd like to have as few problems with this disc won't play or this disc skips a lot as possible. My DVD burner is a Plextor PX-712A, if that makes any difference. It's maybe three years old, and I expect that the TV sets the discs will be played on are not the latest and greatest either. Any other criteria on deciding what kind of blank DVD discs to buy? Many thanks, Fred Holmes * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] CanSecWest Mac Hacking Contest
From what I gather the only rule change was that the user had to surf to a website...show me a compromised pc that isn't on the net. Was their some other change? Mike On 4/25/07, John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This URL from ComputerWorld (including the comments) provides additional information. I also read another article I have lost the reference to, that I thought was amusing. After no one was able to win the original contest, they changed the rules. g http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9017598source=NLT_AMnlid=1 -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] How do I compress MPG files
Paula -- I think Handbrake is mainly a program for work with DVDs. I admit I haven't looked at it very closely, so my initial look could be fooling me. However, you should have everything you need on your Mac if you have iMovie or have purchased Quicktime Pro. Try what I've created at the following link and see if it's helpful: http://web.mac.com/offbalance/iWeb/Off%20Balance%20Stuph/Movie% 20Compression/Movie%20Compression.html Michael, I used iMovie and imported my mpg movie into it with no problem and it plays but the sound is missing. I checked all my volume controls and they are on. If I play the mpg file on it's own, the sound is there. What am I missing? The video is pointless without the sound. I took the video with a sony H5 camera if that makes any difference. I went ahead and did the compression, following your instructions and it looked great but..no sound. Any more ideas? Thank you so much for helping me learn this. Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO what a ride! Have a wonderful day! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macs don't break ...
spent a couple hours at command line trying to make the folder visible. Then I did the simple, dumb thing: ran disk utility. That fixed everything. Thanks, Tom. Worth a try. I'm still learning how to troubleshoot on a Mac. I had no idea how to find out if the USB ports were working. But I could have on my pc. Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO what a ride! Have a wonderful day! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Savvy Senator?
Umm, no, the original point was that Congress should not be trusted with anything to do with technology, since its record over the past decade or so is a sad and sorry tale. Did you forget that part already? I never realized that Gore fetishists could be so kinky with the mythos. I never attacked credentials, just motivations. Are you telling me that people like Vint Cerf are above mortal temptations such as party loyalty? I didn't think I was dealing with Olympic deity. -Original Message- When an authority in the field gives a first person account that contradicts one of your previous assertions and you immediately respond by attacking the credentials of that authority it is a bad sign. When the contortions required to maintain a certain belief become extreme it is time to reexamine the belief. Take off the ideological blinders please! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macs don't break ...
Paula Minor sez: Thanks, Tom. Worth a try. I'm still learning how to troubleshoot on a Mac. I had no idea how to find out if the USB ports were working. But I could have on my pc. System Profiler in your Utilities folder (in Applications) should give you full information about your system, including if USB ports are present and if anything is attached to them. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macs don't break ...
At 5:51 PM -0400 4/25/07, Michael Lewis wrote: Paula Minor sez: Thanks, Tom. Worth a try. I'm still learning how to troubleshoot on a Mac. I had no idea how to find out if the USB ports were working. But I could have on my pc. System Profiler in your Utilities folder (in Applications) should give you full information about your system, including if USB ports are present and if anything is attached to them. Or click on About This Mac in the Apple menu, then click on the More Info button. That is easier than wading around in the Application folder. -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] CanSecWest Mac Hacking Contest
Well the point was that ANY mac surfing to say the superbowl site would have been compromised, that was a big deal on windows machines, so i assume it would be a big deal on macs. This contest just proved someone could write a simple exploit for a mac in just a few hours the same as on a windows machine. Not sure why it changes the challange much at all...most pc's are compromised the exact same way. Mike On 4/25/07, John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the Mac was always on the net throughout. Somehow, surfing to a dangerous web site changes the challenge a fair amount in my view. Whether you consider it a big or small change, it is still a change. Which leads one to surmise that they would have kept allowing more and more - like making the user download dangerous software - who doesn't do that? On 4/25/07, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I gather the only rule change was that the user had to surf to a website...show me a compromised pc that isn't on the net. Was their some other change? there -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Savvy Senator?
Umm, no, the original point was that Congress should not be trusted with anything to do with technology, since its record over the past decade or so is a sad and sorry tale. Did you forget that part already? I started this thread so you telling me what the original point was is a bit odd. No? My point was that I saw some movement in the direction of better understanding on the part of some Senators. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones
On Apr 25, 2007, at 7:00 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: What most reporting does is look for the hook or the grab line that will grab every ones attention and use it as a come on, while the full story might say something opposite. The majors (print and broadcast) tend to do a little better job of it, but often times present a one sided view. I agree with you very much on this. Having just finished seeing a Bill Moyers special on how the press was either bamboozled or in bed with our current administration in the run up to the Iraq war, who can possibly doubt how poor our journalistic standards are today. Steve * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones
On Apr 25, 2007, at 7:38 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: The classic example of this was an 11 o'clock news teaser I saw on one of the Baltimore TV stations a few years ago: Is there snow in our future? Details at 11. The answer turned out to be no. Or, in the Washington Times today, front page, Syrian Agrees to Rice Meeting. That headline seem to imply that Syria has been refusing to talk, but is finally relenting and agreeing to some request from Secretary of State Rice for dialog. Actually it is us who is doing the refusing, and continuing to so so. Reading the article reveals that Rice has made no offer of dialogue whatsoever, and the Syrian official was merely saying, in response to a question, that Syria remains ready to talk at any time. Steve * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
