Re: [css-d] IE8 beta1 parses IE5 mac band pass filter

2008-03-06 Thread Bruno Fassino
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  This is red in IE8

  /*\*//*/
  body {background:red !important}
  /**/

  http://www.stopdesign.com/examples/ie5mac-bpf/

  IE8 is reading styles that were meant to be served to IE-mac.


Yes, I see the same thing.
Simply it seems that   /*/  does NOT  start a comment (or starts and
immediately closes a comment), so:

/*/  selector { ... } /* */

is read by IE8 beta 1.

Bruno

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Re: [css-d] IE8 beta1 parses IE5 mac band pass filter

2008-03-06 Thread Simon Tiplady | Mailing List
Same for me unfortunalty... goes to show why you should be careful using
hacks..

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This is red in IE8

/*\*//*/
body {background:red !important}
/**/

http://www.stopdesign.com/examples/ie5mac-bpf/

IE8 is reading styles that were meant to be served to IE-mac.

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Re: [css-d] IE8 beta1 parses IE5 mac band pass filter

2008-03-06 Thread Bruno Fassino
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Breaks lots of my pages. Hope they fix the parser in next beta.
  I'll file the bug to the new css-d wiki IE8 page then.


A couple of other things that I noticed at a very quick look:

1) at least in some cases  br style=clear:both /  does not clear.

2) vertical-align  seems a bit broken.  Some values doesn't work
correctly (for images, for display:inline-block boxes, ...)   The
middle value does not work anymore, not even in true table cells.


Bruno

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[css-d] IE8 beta1 parses IE5 mac band pass filter

2008-03-06 Thread Ingo Chao

This is red in IE8

/*\*//*/
body {background:red !important}
/**/

http://www.stopdesign.com/examples/ie5mac-bpf/

IE8 is reading styles that were meant to be served to IE-mac.

tested with IE8 VPC image on XP 2

could someone please confirm?

Ingo

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Re: [css-d] IE8 beta1 parses IE5 mac band pass filter

2008-03-06 Thread Ingo Chao
Bruno Fassino wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 This is red in IE8
 
 /*\*//*/ body {background:red !important} /**/
 
 http://www.stopdesign.com/examples/ie5mac-bpf/
 
 IE8 is reading styles that were meant to be served to IE-mac.
 
 
 Yes, I see the same thing. Simply it seems that   /*/  does NOT
 start a comment (or starts and immediately closes a comment), so:
 
 /*/  selector { ... } /* */
 
 is read by IE8 beta 1.
 
 Bruno
 

Thanks, Bruno and Simon!

Breaks lots of my pages. Hope they fix the parser in next beta.
I'll file the bug to the new css-d wiki IE8 page then.


Simon Tiplady | Mailing List wrote:
 Same for me unfortunalty... goes to show why you should be careful using
 hacks..

Right, but this one of 2004 was by Tantek and was classified as safe 
because it addresses a parser bug in IE-Mac.


regards,

Ingo

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Re: [css-d] IE8 beta1 parses IE5 mac band pass filter

2008-03-06 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On Thu, March 6, 2008 10:10 am, Ingo Chao wrote:

 I'll file the bug to the new css-d wiki IE8 page then.

Better still, use the resources Microsoft have provided for developers to
give them feedback on the beta:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/03/05/ie8-beta-feedback.aspx

Probably a more reliable way of communicating with them than expecting
them to go off and check somebody else's wiki every day on the offchance
there's something new there :-)

Cheers,

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Re: [css-d] IE8 beta1 parses IE5 mac band pass filter

2008-03-06 Thread Eric A. Meyer
At 10:28 AM + 3/6/08, Nick Fitzsimons wrote:

Better still, use the resources Microsoft have provided for developers to
give them feedback on the beta:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/03/05/ie8-beta-feedback.aspx

Probably a more reliable way of communicating with them than expecting
them to go off and check somebody else's wiki every day on the offchance
there's something new there :-)

Agreed, although I'm pretty sure the IE team is aware of the css-d 
wiki and will check any IE8 information that gets posted there.  In 
fact, I'll e-mail Chris Wilson to make sure they know about it.
BUT: if you only have time to report an IE8 problem in one place, 
do it via the Microsoft feedback page Nick listed.  If you then find 
time to document the same problem on the wiki, that's awesome, but 
it's really secondary priority.

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Re: [css-d] IE8 beta1 parses IE5 mac band pass filter

2008-03-06 Thread Alan Gresley
Ingo Chao wrote:

 Bruno Fassino wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Ingo Chao [EMAIL-REMOVED]
 wrote:
 This is red in IE8
 
 /*\*//*/ body {background:red !important} /**/
 
 http://www.stopdesign.com/examples/ie5mac-bpf/
 
 IE8 is reading styles that were meant to be served to IE-mac.
 
 
 Yes, I see the same thing. Simply it seems that   /*/  does NOT
 start a comment (or starts and immediately closes a comment), so:
 
 /*/  selector { ... } /* */
 
 is read by IE8 beta 1.
 
 Bruno
 

 Thanks, Bruno and Simon!

 Breaks lots of my pages. Hope they fix the parser in next beta.
 I'll file the bug to the new css-d wiki IE8 page then.

 regards,
 
 Ingo

LOL

Ingo no no, don't you realase that IE8 is desperately needing my IE/Mac style. 
:-)

IE8 needs that filter working so my test page isn't a disaster.

http://css-class.com/test/beta-0-1.htm

And this mean that IE8 still is using IE7 targeting hacks.

http://css-class.com/test/css/selectors/ie7hacktargetingopera.htm

No more rumors, the truth is known for all to see. :-)

Alan

http://css-class.com/

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Re: [css-d] IE8 beta1 parses IE5 mac band pass filter

2008-03-06 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On Thu, March 6, 2008 9:47 am, Ingo Chao wrote:

 This is red in IE8

 /*\*//*/
 body {background:red !important}
 /**/

 http://www.stopdesign.com/examples/ie5mac-bpf/

 IE8 is reading styles that were meant to be served to IE-mac.

Mere speculation, but this suggests an interesting possibility: the IE
Team would have faced a lot of work to create a CSS 2.1-compliant
rendering engine from scratch, but Microsoft already owns the source code
for a rendering engine with excellent support for CSS 2 - the IE 5-Mac
rendering engine.

Could it be that (very sensibly) they drew on that body of existing and
known-good code for the work on IE 8, and this CSS-comment -parsing bug
has crept in along with the good stuff?

Just a thought...

Regards,

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