[CTRL] THIRD POLITICAL PARTY CENTRAL - MATCHMAKING SERVICE

1999-03-05 Thread Bill Richer

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: Christian Reconstructionist Thesis--Rutherford Foundation--fromThe Bloodless Coup-Mind It

1999-03-05 Thread Jim Condit Jr.

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Dear Lloyd, a caution on Mellon Scaife -- my sources in that area say that
Mellon Scaife is one of the Ruling Elite and finances false opposition to
make sure they stay within certain bounds. Jim Condit Jr.

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 This post is ridiculous.

 Christian Reconstructionists certainly exist and Gary North and
 Rushdoony are among them.

 However, there is no evidence I have seen that the Rutherford
 Institute
 is Reconstructionist.  That they defend unpopular Fundamentalists
 including
 Reconstructionists, etc. does not prove they are
 reconstructionists.  Sorry,
 but Nazis and Reconstructionists have free speech rights like
 everyone else
 and their rights are routinely trashed by the "politically correct"
 tendencies of the Establishment.

 Typical left-wing hysteria and guilt by association.  Thank God Mellon
 Scaife finances folks  willing to hold the filthy, stinking Clinton
 Administration to the law.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Martin H. Katchen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Lloyd Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 7:37 PM
 Subject: Fw: Fw: Christian Reconstructionist Thesis--Rutherford
 Foundation--fromThe Bloodless Coup-Mind It



 -Original Message-
 From: GOANDRE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Martin H. Katchen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 5:13 PM
 Subject: Re: Fw: Christian Reconstructionist Thesis--Rutherford
 Foundation--fromThe Bloodless Coup-Mind It


 Martin,
 I tried the ADDRESS YOU gave me for Lloyd's list and got an
 error message.
 Is it [EMAIL PROTECTED]  This is what I typed, let me know if it's
 right.
 Andre
 
 On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Martin H. Katchen wrote:
 
  Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 16:22:59 -0800
  From: Martin H. Katchen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Fw: Christian Reconstructionist Thesis--Rutherford
 Foundation--from
 The Bloodless Coup-Mind It
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Lee Markland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Martin H. Katchen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Monday, March 01, 1999 5:51 PM
  Subject: Re: Christian Reconstructionist Thesis--Rutherford
 Foundation--from
  The Bloodless Coup-Mind It
 
 
  Thanks Martin:
  
  Henry Hyde let it slip on the Senate Floor when he said it in clear
 voice.
  "This is a cultural war".
  
  When they say it ain't about sex, (Clinton's Impeachment)
 they are only
  partially correct.
  It isn't about Clintons sex life, but it is about
 psychosexual needs and
  politics.
  
  Don't you think this would be a relevant posting for psychohistory, or
 are
  those "historians" psycho cases themselves.
  
  I haven't seen anything there yet that engenders my respect.
  
  Lee
  
  At 03:31 PM 3/1/99 -0800, you wrote:
  THE RUTHERFORD FOUNDATION
  A malevolent force is behind Paula Jones. The Rutherford Institute,
 which
  pays for Paula Jones legal fees, is part of the Christian
 Reconstruction
  Movement. The Rutherford Foundation receives money from
 Richard Scaife.
  
  CHRISTIAN RECONSTRUCTIONISM:
  by Rev. James W. Watkins
  Simply put, Christian Reconstructionists (CR's) are Christians who
 believe
  that the only way to solve modern America's problems is to bring back
 16th
  century Puritan Massachusetts. The CR's are politically active
  ultra-conservative scriptural literalists. They use the phrase
 "inerrant
  Law-Word of God" to describe their biblical view. They do not believe
 in
  traditional American notions of Separation of Church and State or in
  public
  education. They do not believe that "governments derive their just
 powers
  from the consent of the governed" as Thomas Jefferson wrote in our
  Declaration of Independence. They promote an Old Testament, Puritan,
  theocratic 

Re: [CTRL] Booth Tells All! (fwd)

1999-03-05 Thread Howard R. Davis III

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Brian Redman wrote:

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 BOOTH TELLS ALL!
 


 Booth,  using an alias, married Izola Forrester in 1859.  She was
 already pregnant by Booth at the time.  The child of their union,
 Ogarita Booth, was born in 1859.


   If Booth married while using an alias, would not the child have had a
different last name?

Howard Davis

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Re: [CTRL] Booth Tells All! (fwd)

1999-03-05 Thread Colleen Jones

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Forrester family related to Robert Fulton, who was somehow involved with
our family.

If Booth was member of the Golden Circle, I would want to know how close
this circle was to the old KKK - after the Civil War they were gentleman
Masons who organized the KKk - but the KKK turned into a renegade lot,
and General Nathan Bedford Forrest ordrerd them to disband, of course.
In one of our old family records, we had ancestor who rode with jesse
james...(stiles was the name)

There are those who thought Booth was southern sympathizer and other who
thought he was a Rothchild Agent.

In the Lincoln collection in the Smithsonian, as I recall - there is
a secret message overlooked by a lot of researchers, where this unknown
man left information re the assassination - stating it was done by a
Brutus, a Judas, and a Spy - and the Spy, was I

Now Alan Pinkerton who formed the Secret Service hated the south; he was
a rather crude man from Scotland, and this is how he s described in some
books, who was a member of the old Chartist party.

They say it takes one to know one, and Pinkerton knew all the secrets of
some of these societies...

I am going to have to check this out; my mother hated Lincoln because
their family was from Georgia and Maryland.and what Sherman did to
Georgia...itt is said today even while driving thorugh Georgia, if you
are from Ohio, watch out


Shermn was a barbarian;  Lee, was a gentleman.

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Re: [CTRL] Booth Tells All! (fwd)

1999-03-05 Thread Colleen Jones

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I must add, Jefferson Davis was in our family tree - and the little
booklet I have with the southern lines, etc., is sealed with a royal
crown.   anyone who was a Davis, was treated with great respect even up
to the time I was a little girl.

No Davis, could do wrong.

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Re: [CTRL] Booth Tells All! (fwd)

1999-03-05 Thread Colleen Jones

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Must add...my father was a Fitzgerald, Fleming, Neville and
Walsh.first fitzgerald was Gerald of Ogyou now in the bible,
Moses had to murder King Og and Sihon to get to the promised
land.and then, when you consider royl familys always trace their
family tree to the bible.the plot thickens.  What an unusual name
for a baby..King Og was a huge man, of course..and King Henry
had 7 hanged, drawn and quarteredone Lord Thomas Fitzgerald is
buried in a lake at Lou Ghour )now that is spelled wrong)   but I like
this legendevery 7 years he arises from the lake on a huge white
horse, and rides the country sides, and when the silver heels of the
great horse wear down, he will get back his title and estates.   I
always hated Moses for that - and quite frankly, he deserved to get
knocked off at the mountain top.

Lincoln was a Gog of a man, was he not.   Tall..legends are more fun
that history books.Oh by the way, the one Fitzgerald got away from
Henry, escaped to Frannce, and the Fitzgerld and St. Patrick carried the
same Coat of Arms.]

As you can see, my mother was so fmily conscience, but when the name
Davis was mentioned, well a Davis, was Davis.

Keep us posted on Booth.   I always thought he got awaythe plays of
Sheakespear at one time were banned, or in trouble becasue the Kings and
Queens thought they gave people ideas - that it was okay to asinate
and King or Queen.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Booth's Diary

1999-03-05 Thread Colleen Jones

Can you pick this up.  This little book Booth carried is unique itself.

Consider Oswald kept a diar, Sirhan kept a diary, Ray involved in
hypnotism as was Sirhan, and Oswald from his diary was on something.

Sirhan's diary is interesting "I will get money per instructions from
the bible", words to that effect.

Why alll these "historical" documents.  Its been a long while since I
have read Booth's diay, and of course the missing pages.

He sounded like Ishmael on the lam; every hand against him.  But he
ended up in our mother state of Maryland, as I recall which was a strong
hold for the southern cause.

Anyway, Lincoln's guard sure was donw, and that is when the enemy
within, gets through.  And Lincoln had a psychic with her big foot in
his door too, as if he did ot have enough trouble.




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Re: [CTRL] Monica Barbara's tale of terror and terrorism....

1999-03-05 Thread Jim Condit Jr.

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Well, can't resist. The post below from the alt.conspiracy is too ridulous
for words. The Lewinsky Affair is a Master Play put on by the Dominant
Jewish Ruling Elite (incidentally that's a play off Bob Dornan's phrase
"Dominant Media Culture" -- used in order to exclude the Jews who do NOT go
along with this Dominant Jewish Lobby). Ken Starr is what he looks: a weak
sister who is being easily managed. He admitted in his Congressional
testimony that he did not interview or meet even one witness - which the
Jewish Valley Girl Monica L. partially confirmed with the Jewish Power Chick
(ugghhh!) Barbaw Wawa. Starr is married to a Jewish woman, and found himself
surrounded by liberal Jewish Advisors like Sam Dash(a Democrat) --- the
stage was set for Clinton to be toppled if he didn't give in to all of
Israel's demands (which he has, especially by placing CIA agents - which
means US troops to back them up to "supervise" the peace process --- also,
don't worry super-American-citizen-traitor-and-Isreali-spy Jonathon Pollard
will be released by Clinton eventually). But, since Clinton DID give it to
all Israeli demands, the nincompoop Starr had to have the rug pulled out
from under him -- so all the Jewish agents in this circus moved into that
script after the Wye Peace Conference. Sam Dash absurdly holds a press
conference (covered pervasively by the Jewish owned Big TV Networks) pulling
the rug out from Starr right after Starr's Congressional Testimony. (See
ANOTHER type of press conference mentioned below -- FAR MORE SUBSTANTIVE --
that was 100% squelched by the Big Media.) I'm sure the Jewish lawyers on
the absentee Starr's staff WERE leaking info to the press, although they'll
never take the fall, but it did make Starr look bad at key moments -- this
would never have happened if Clinton was to be toppled. Starr would have won
all the way --- Monica, the Mossad-agent-of-influence -- would have been
made into a millionaire no matter what happened, she did her disgusting job.
. . . Hey, remember when pawn Starr announced he was going to quit and go to
Pepperdyne -- and then suddenly he reversed himself. He was TOLD to get back
into line. And then, after the Wye Conference, did you know that his Chicago
law-firmed (I'm betting Jewish run) suddenly cut his $1 million per year
salary off until the investigation was over --- that was a sign to Starr to
wrap it up, as the whole "scandal" had served its purposes (only a few of
which I've mentioned).

Richard Mellon Scaife is another Ruling Elite Jew who funds the phony
conservatives (even sometimes funding good guys like Christopher Ruddy to
try and keep them within bounds if possible) to perpetuate the Ruling Elite
Play given life by the Ruling Elite's Big TV networks to an (as yet)
unsuspecting public).

Even Matt Drudge, who I enjoy watching and think is a very talented showman,
has served no other purpose that to put the heat on Clinton for Israel.
Incidentally, I don't believe Drudge is his real name (too convenient, like
"drudge up the dirt on . . .") -- can anyone help me on this? And he looks
like he could be another Jewish actor sent out to co-opt the Internet
Investigative Crown in the eyes of all but the very, very well informed.

Here's the rule: if you have a part written for you in the Ruling Elite's
play, then you get coverage. If not, you don't. How about some proof? Two
Starr assitants, one named Rodriguez, resigned from Starr's staff in protest
because Starr and his handlers were blocking a real investigation of the
Foster death. Rodriguez and the other guy (reported in Chris Ruddy's The
Strange Death of Vincent Foster) had a full press conference in Wash DC,
with real reporters --- and it was squelched by ALL the Big Media -- most of
the people on this list probably didn't even hear of this incident. Why? No
part had been written for them, the Foster situation would have revealed too
much about Clinton's handlers. (When someone like Gennifer Flowers breaks
through the Press Curtain because of AIRTIGHT evidence -- she is just
ridiculed to death -- you can bet your life Flowers isn't cashing in like
Monica -- she wasn't written in the script).

Any way --- get rid of your school-girlish and school-boyish fears of the
limp-wristed Ken Starr who was just a helpless pawn in this Play
(incidentally, after a few false steps towards an investigation of Starr, he
will be allowed to quietly return to his luxurious lifestyle -- he played
his part well too, however little he grasped what a pawn he was.)

The Ruling Elite that managed this play is who you all have to fear, but
many of you, even those of you who constantly search out "conspiracies"
amongst common-sense-people who are trying to stop the New World Order, even
those of you who apparantly greatly sympathize with this Ruling Elite, will
find out how much you have to fear -- too late, I fear. Jim Condit Jr.


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Re: [CTRL] Netanyahu Taped Clinton's Sex Calls To Monica???

1999-03-05 Thread Jim Condit Jr.

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I hope YOU take criticism well Sgt Bee, and traipsing around in Israel
hasn't helped your propensity to miss the obvious -- anymore than it's
helped Rush Limbaugh's. You're offering about carving up the world and
supporting an underdog in each region is interesting and intriguing -- I'll
check it out. But WHO are these mysterious conspirators who are "Getting
away"  Open your eyes, dear brave man (I'm not being sarcastic here),
and look at who owns "our" Big TV Networks, Hollywood, who runs the FED
("our" money), and look who is running the Clinton Administration at every
turn.

Quite frankly, you military guys and police guys, due to your macho nature,
have trouble admitting when YOU have been used as a pawn -- and if you've
been involved in any US military actions recently -- you have. America
cannot be saved without at least a small courageous contingent of military
type men coming to the aid of their country and pulling a "Pinochet" on the
Ruling Elite at the Networks and at the Fed -- I'm not talking about
violating their persons or their rights here --- just removing them from the
positions from which they so viciously harm the American public.

So, to the really informed on the list, the B.S. meter went off when you
PARROTED that tired old unfair and illegitmate "anti-Semitic" charge to try
and intimidate Bill Mulcahy -- who I hope continues to stand tall. Just for
your information, the anti-Semitic charge tanked for good when the Ruling
Elite pushed Bill Buckley into firing the brilliant columnists Joe Sobran,
and ESPECIALLY when Ted Koppel and the other vicious Jews running the Big
Media tried to savage Pat Buchanan with the anti-semitic shillobeth in 1992
and 1996. That's too bad, because there are anti-semitic people --- and now
the charge will not stick even against them. On balance this is good for
now, because it's the anti-Christianism of the Ruling Elite that dominates
today. There's nothing anti-Semitic (actually we should be saying
anti-Jewish, as Arabs are all semites too) per se in Bill M's statement
below. He's speaking in the tradition of Our Lord Jesus Christ (see St. John
Ch 8, v 44, and Rev: 2:9; 3:9), St. Stephen, the first martyr, St. John
Chrysostom, St. Thomas Aquinas, St. John Capistrano, dozens of Popes of the
Catholic Church, and more too numerous to mention. The Ruling Elite Jews and
their fellow travelors need to be talked about that way until they stop
their evil, or their evil anti-Christian agenda is stopped. Please get and
read the books of Fr. Denis Fahey before YOU further mislead people,
especially Fahey's book "The Kingship of Christ and the Conversion of the
Jewish nation. Jim Condit Jr.

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 From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Scott Bourassa
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 11:05 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Netanyahu Taped Clinton's Sex Calls To Monica???


  -Caveat Lector-

 On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Bill Mulcahy wrote:

  Subject: Netanyahu Taped Clinton's Sex Calls To Monica???
  From: "Bill Mulcahy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Wed, Mar 3, 1999 7:31 AM
  Message-id: 7bjknq$dt5m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Talk about a blockbuster story! Read the story below or go to
  website: http://www.nypostonline.com/news/4016.htm

 snip!

   When will Americans wake up to the fact that you cannot trust the
  racist state of Israel which is only interested in manipulating,
   corrupting and controlling America and other "goyim" (the racist
  term for non-Jews) countries?
 
  Bill Mulcahy

 Excuse me Bill, but isn't the pot calling the kettle a darker
 shade of grey
 here?  I won't even attempt to deny the story, but by wrapping your
 Anti-semitic views in a book report offered by the NY Post, you seriously
 underestimate our Bull-Shit Detectors.  I myself am "goyim", but
 I've been to
 Israel; I spent six months traveling back and forth between the
 Golan heights
 and the Sinai Desert, what about you?  Y'know who funds more of Israel's
 efforts than anyone else?  Americans and their wonderful
 government (I've heard
 estimates that range from $20-60Bil).  Do you know why?  A great
 number of the
 individuals who send money are of Jewish origin, and do so to help their
 'brethren', and secure their history.  The American government assists the
 Israelis for the sole (soul?) purpose of controlling the Middle East; by
 installing a friendly government into an already troubled
 country, and then
 dumping billions of dollars into their economy; by building the major road
 surfaces in and around Tel Aviv; and by sending them surplus or
 outdated (but
 still newer and more capable than their enemies') military tanks and
 helicopters for free, they have managed to effectively control
 the situation in
 the Middle East like puppet masters.  They've been doing it since
 '73, and with
 close to 2000 ground troops and airmen stationed in the Sinai,
 and an entire
 fleet in the Med, they're 

Re: [CTRL] Putting a Spin on Monica

1999-03-05 Thread revcoal

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On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Sno0wl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
She was threatened with 27 years in prison if she attempted to keep her
private, consensual affair private. She had not committed any crime.
Consensual sex between two adults is NOT a crime.

But adultery IS, in most jurisdictions...it's just that it's rarely
prosecuted.


And this is "constitutional"? The only thing Starr could have hoped to
get from her against Clinton was material that would provide ammo for
character assassination,

No, Clinton had already provided testimony to the Jones Grand Jury, and
what Starr hoped to get from Lewinsky was evidence of Clinton's perjury,
and possible obstruction of justice...


What Monica did was foolish. What was done to Monica and to her family
was terrifying. Isn't anyone scared by it?

No more (or less) than the terror felt be living under a Clinton regime,
with Clinton's history of mysterious deaths of close associates, going
back decades...

Or of his cozy relationship with the Reagan/Bush regimes, re:  Mena.

You go on about 'right-wing Republicans', when you seem to fail to grasp
that they're ALL puppets of the same masters...


June

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Re: [CTRL] Booth Tells All! (fwd)

1999-03-05 Thread Brian Redman

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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Howard R. Davis III wrote:

 
  Booth,  using an alias, married Izola Forrester in 1859.  She was
  already pregnant by Booth at the time.  The child of their union,
  Ogarita Booth, was born in 1859.
 

If Booth married while using an alias, would not the child have had a
 different last name?


Yes, she did. I forget right now what it was. Orgarita Booth's
daughter (Booth's grand-daughter) wrote a book, "This One Mad
Act," published in 1937, which I'm in the middle of reading.
Thus far, her book is *very solid*. The book is probably out
of print; I got it through the local university's library.
It has several family photos, including one of Ogarita Booth
wearing a brooch around her neck; brooch is size of silver
dollar, containing photo of John Wilkes Booth. This wearing
of such a brooch circa 1885 is very daring, considering the
hostile climate against JW Booth at the time. It's impossible
to convey the strength of the book, "This One Mad Act," in
e-mail. The book carefully explains the situation. I plan to
write a review in Conspiracy Nation, but even that will be
inadequate to the book. Highly recommended book, if you
can get hold of it.

Brian Redman
Editor, CNNS

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Re: [CTRL] Booth Tells All! (fwd)

1999-03-05 Thread Brian Redman

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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Colleen Jones wrote:


 In the Lincoln collection in the Smithsonian, as I recall - there is
 a secret message overlooked by a lot of researchers, where this unknown
 man left information re the assassination - stating it was done by a
 Brutus, a Judas, and a Spy - and the Spy, was I

Yes. He was Colonel Lafayette Baker, head of National Detective
Police (NDP), sort of a Union "FBI/CIA." I covered what you
refer to in a past issue of Conspiracy Nation, titled (I think)
"Ray Neff Discovers Coded Message." I'll look for it.

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Re: [CTRL] Booth Tells All! (fwd)

1999-03-05 Thread Brian Redman

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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Colleen Jones wrote:

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 I must add, Jefferson Davis was in our family tree - and the little
 booklet I have with the southern lines, etc., is sealed with a royal
 crown.   anyone who was a Davis, was treated with great respect even up
 to the time I was a little girl.


Was Davis Catholic? Do you know?

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[CTRL] Booth, Brutus, and The Spy

1999-03-05 Thread Brian Redman

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Below is what Colleen had referred to, about something
she'd remembered in Smithsonian about "The spy was I, etc."

  Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 11  Num. 20
 ===
 ("Quid coniuratio est?")




RAY NEFF DISCOVERS CODED MESSAGES
=

In 1863, Colonel Lafayette C.  Baker (later promoted to Brigadier
General) was in charge of Union counter-intelligence, heading the
National  Detective  Bureau.   In  1866,  when  President  Andrew
Johnson discovered that Baker's Detective Bureau  had  the  White
House  under  surveillance,  Baker  was  dismissed.  Baker feared
(with good  reason)  for  his  life,  and  died  under suspicious
circumstances  in  1868.   (Details  are  in   *Anatomy   of   an
Assassination*  by  John  Cottrell.   New York:  Funk  Wagnalls,
1966.)  An inventory of Baker's possessions showed he owned bound
volumes of "Colburn's U.S. Magazine"  for  the years 1860 to 1865
-- *with* *one* *exception*:  the volume for the  first  half  of
1864  is  not  listed in the inventory.  Read on, for why that is
important.

Documented in Cottrell's book is the following sworn testimony by
one William Carter, who  knew  Baker  and  visited him a few days
before his death:

  [Baker] did say some things  which  made me wonder.  When I
  came into the room he had a stack of books by his  bed  and
  he  had  one  open and was making marks in it.  I asked him
  what he was doing and he said, "I'm writing my memoirs."  I
  asked him [again,] to make sure that I had heard him  right
  and  he  said  it  over again.  Then I said, "But, General,
  them books is already  wrote."   And  he said, "Right, they
  are going to have to get up early to get ahead of old  Lafe
  Baker."  And then he laughed.  I picked up one of the books
  and  looked  at it, and I saw that he was writing cipher in
  it.

Please note that when Ray Neff, a research chemist, came across a
bound volume of  "Colburn's  U.S.  Magazine"  at a used bookstore
92-years after  Abraham  Lincoln's  assassination,  none  of  the
information in the preceding paragraphs had yet come to light.

The bound volume of  Colburn's  magazine  which Neff chanced upon
was for the latter  half  of  1864.   Note  that,  as  mentioned,
Baker's  inventory  shows that he lacked the bound volume for the
first half of 1864.

Months  after  purchasing  the  volume,  Neff  was  idly thumbing
through it.  He noticed a series of numbers and  letters  written
in   the   margin.Mr.   Leonard   Fousche   (a   professional
cryptographer) and Neff's wife helped him decipher the messages.

Ray Neff noticed that the  bound volume was discolored in several
places.  After spreading  tannic  acid  over  one  of  these,  it
revealed  a  signature;   Baker  had apparently used some sort of
"invisible ink" method  to  conceal  his  name,  "L.C. Baker."  A
handwriting expert later declared the signature to be genuine.

Here is what the de-ciphered messages said:

  =1=
  I am constantly being followed.  They are professionals.  I
  cannot fool them.  In new Rome there walked  three  men,  a
  Judas,  a Brutus and a spy.  Each planned that he should be
  the king when  Abraham  should  die.   One  trusted not the
  other but they went on for that day, waiting for that final
  moment when, with pistol in his hand, one of  the  sons  of
  Brutus  could sneak behind that cursed man and put a bullet
  in his brain and lay his clumsey [sic] corpse away.  As the
  fallen man lay dying, Judas  came  and paid respects to one
  he hated, and when at last he saw him die,  he  said,  "Now
  the  ages  have him and the nation now have I."  But, alas,
  fate would have it Judas  slowly  fell from grace, and with
  him went Brutus down to their proper place.  But  lest  one
  is  left  to  wonder what happened to the spy, I can safely
  tell you this, it was I.
-- Lafayette C. Baker

  =2=
  It was on the tenth of April, sixty-five, when I first knew
  that the  plan  was  in  action.   Ecert  [Major  Thomas T.
  Eckert, in charge of military telegraph headquarters at the
  War Department] had made all the contacts, the deed  to  be
  done on the fourteenth.  I did not know the identity of the
  assassin,  but  I knew most all else when I approached E.S.
  [Edwin M. Stanton,  Lincoln's  Secretary  of War] about it.
  He at once acted  surprised  and  disbelieving.   Later  he
  said:   "You  are  a  party to it too.  Let us wait and see
  what comes of it and then we will know better how to act in
  the matter."  I soon discovered what  he meant that I was a
  party to it when the following day I was shown  a  document
  that I knew to be a forgery but a clever one, which made it
  appear  that  I  had been in charge of a plot to kidnap the
  President, the Vice-President 

[CTRL] Contrails

1999-03-05 Thread Sno0wl

 -Caveat Lector-

These posts came in from another list I'm on. Almost everyone on this other list lives
on the west coast--from Southern California to Washington State.and all have been
reporting significant contrail activity

Hello Everyone,
This is probably just a coincidence, but I got so aggravated with Los
Angeles having so many contrail patterns, 24 hr day--I called my my
congresman and reported it. At the same time, a friend of mine in the
Valley called her congressman and reported it--the aid she spoke with
immediately knew what she was talking about--said he had been in Santa
Monica and it looked terrible- WHEN WE CALLED THERE WERE AT LEAST 30
PLANES DOING THEIR CONTRAIL THING...AN HOUR LAATER THERE WERE
NONE AND
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN BACK-IT HAS BEEN TWO DAYS NOW...NO CONTRAILS!!
I'm sure it is just a coincidence, but I think I'll call again when
they
return!!
Take care everyone, XX, Santa Monica

*
They are now blanketing all of LA County from the looks of them.  High,
wide, parallel, with one at about a 30 degree angle to the rest.  As
someone said, it looks a bit like tic-tac-toe in the sky.

So, what the HELL is it?  I'm becoming concerned.



sno0wl

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[CTRL] Fwd: Brain Implants That Allow Willful Thinking

1999-03-05 Thread Kris Millegan





Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 02:19:16 -0800
To:Cynthia
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Subject:Brain Implants That Allow "Willful Thinking"

Principles of Psychobiology
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Brain Implants That Allow "Willful Thinking"

Neuroscientists have implanted a device in the motor neocortex of two
people that has allowed them to operate a computer display by "thinking"
about it.  It has been known for many years that direct electrical
stimulation of particular brain regions can elicit sensory experiences,
memory recall, or motor responses.  However, unlike scenes from many
(oftentimes bad) science fiction movies, it has always been unclear
whether or not brain cell activity could be used to control external
machines.
Dr. Phillip R. Kennedy, a researcher who has worked with researchers
at Georgia Institute of Technology and Emory University, developed an
implant that can be used to detect that activity of neurons, and convey
these signals to computers for further processing and control operations.
The small recording sensor is enclosed in a glass envelope and coated with
nerve growth factors that allow neurons in the region of the implant to
establish functional connections with the sensor.  Normally, when
recording electrodes are implanted in brain tissue the region surrounding
the electrode is enveloped by glial cells (Module 1; Principles of
Psychobiology) that attempt to encapsulate the "foreign" material.  This
electrically isolates the recording electrodes from small amplitude
potentials that are conveyed by individual axons, dendrites or gap
junctions (Modules 1-5; Principles of Psychobiology).  The key development
is the application of nerve growth factors that apparently encourages the
growth of functional connections to the recording electrode -- This
formation of intact connections could be followed after implantation by a
change in the pattern of electrical activity detected by the electrode.
Surgeries on two patients were performed by Dr. Roy Bakay from Emory,
who presented the findings at the Congress of Neurological Surgeons annual
meeting in Seattle.  The electrodes were implanted in the motor cortex,
near the arm/facial region (Module 7c; Principles of Psychobiology), and
signals were routed to a computer that moved a cursor across a screen to
an icon region.  Both patients were paralyzed and unable to move their
limbs or speak.  The first patient, who had the implant for 2.5 months
before dying from amyotrophic lateral sclerosis,  learned to control the
signals in an "on-off manner" for seven days.  The second patient (J.R.),
who suffered brain stem stroke after a heart attack, has had the implant
for 6 months.
 Initially, this patient had a problem stopping his brain's electrical
activity, but researchers programmed a pause into the system so that
whenever the cursor landed on an icon, it stopped.  Eventually, the patient
was able to stop the cursor at an icon and click it to say a word or a
phrase.
"This will hopefully open up a whole new world for J.R.," Bakay said.
"He is learning and so are we."

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[CTRL] Fwd: CIA Role in China Satellite Scandal

1999-03-05 Thread Kris Millegan





The Washington Post

CIA Role in Satellite Case Spurs Probe

By Vernon Loeb and John Mintz
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, December 5, 1998; Page A1
February 1996.

(Reuters) The Justice Department has
initiated a criminal probe of the CIA to determine
whether the agency obstructed justice when it provided
information to Hughes Electronics Corp. about the scope
of an ongoing congressional investigation into the
transfer of sensitive U.S. space technology to China,
according to senior federal government officials.

High-ranking CIA officials, including the agency's
general counsel, have agreed to testify next week
before a federal grand jury in Washington about
information provided earlier this year to Hughes, which
has supplied the CIA with satellites and sophisticated
communications equipment for decades.

Government sources say the CIA provided information to
Hughes about the Senate Select Committee on
Intelligence's technology transfer investigation that
might have enabled the firm to anticipate the moves of
congressional investigators.

The Justice Department initiated the obstruction probe
at the request of the Senate committee, sources said.
The committee became alarmed after learning that the
CIA had informed Hughes of names of company officials
that the agency had previously supplied to the
committee to assist in its investigation, sources said.

A CIA spokesman said the agency is fully cooperating in
the obstruction probe. Another CIA official, speaking
on background, acknowledged that the agency may have
erred in providing certain information to Hughes. But
the information was turned over in the normal course of
business between the agency and one of its major
classified contractors with no intention of interfering
with the investigation, the official said.

The CIA official also stressed that agency employees
who provided information to Hughes did so in their
official capacities with approval of their superiors,
   not as individuals acting on their own. The official
   said that some of what the CIA gave Hughes pertained to
   the investigations precisely because there was no
   intent to hide anything, and that agency officials
   informed the committee of their communications with
   Hughes.

   Hughes spokesman Richard Dore said, "Hughes has not
   been provided information by the CIA regarding the
   details of federal criminal investigations involving
   Hughes."

   Much of the information provided by the CIA to Hughes
   is contained in CIA documents subpoenaed by the Senate
   and by federal investigators conducting a parallel
   probe into the transfer of U.S. technology to China,
   sources said. Hughes and Loral Space  Communications
   Ltd. are under investigation by the Justice Department
   and two congressional committees for their role in
   transferring technology to the Chinese after Hughes and
   Loral satellites were destroyed in two Chinese rocket
   explosions.

   Government sources said it is highly unusual for the
   Justice Department to investigate a fellow federal
   agency -- particularly one as sensitive and secretive
   as the CIA -- for possible obstruction of justice.

   Sources said the matter began this fall when a CIA
   analyst specializing in Chinese technology, Ronald
   Pandolfi, was called to the Senate committee and told
   staff members that he had concluded in 1995 that Hughes
   had been too aggressive in marketing high-technology
   equipment in China.

   At the time, according to an account from several
   sources, Pandolfi conducted interviews with Hughes
   executives about their work in China, causing Hughes to
   complain angrily to the CIA that he was operating
   outside of customary channels. The CIA office that
   regularly deals with Hughes reprimanded Pandolfi, who,
   after being summoned by the committee, in September
   laid out a set of accusations against the firm, sources
   said.

   Aware of Pandolfi's views, the CIA gave Hughes a
   heads-up about his discussion with the committee and
   offered to supply the panel with the names of Hughes
   executives who might explain the disagreement, sources
   said.

   Meanwhile, in a related development of concern to
   federal investigators, the 

[CTRL] Fwd: DRUDGE-REPORT-FINAL 3/5/99

1999-03-05 Thread Kris Millegan






X DRUDGE REPORT X 03/05/99 02:41:08 UTC X



CAMERAS WATCH LOS ANGELES STREETS, SECRET UNDERGROUND BUNKER HOUSES COMMAND
CENTER

**Exclusive**

Under L.A., ready for Y2K!  Five stories below the Federal Building in
downtown Los Angeles there is a secret computer command center  -- a command
center that has enough power, food and water to sustain 50 people for two
years!

The DRUDGE REPORT has learned, the bunker, named ATSAC [Automated Traffic
Signal And Control], would become a high-tech command center used to monitor
any civil unrest during a Y2K breakdown!

The compound is reached by a secret elevator located on the parking level of
the Federal Building.

In order to gain access to the ATSAC area you must pass through 4 bank-style
vault doors.

The city's high-tech bunker has been designed to survive a San Andreas rip
and a nuclear explosion.

The main area of the complex is a large space with one 180 degree
semi-circular wall stretching along one half of the room.

Feeling and looking like a STAR TREK set, the lower work area has dozens of
computer consoles, which will be powered by diesel fuel generators if power
is cut.

The upper wall is filled with two rows of 40 large flat panel display
screens --  screens that monitor views from remote controlled cameras placed
throughout the Los Angeles area.

"These cameras are our eyes," one government source tells the DRUDGE REPORT.

One camera pans across the infamous Florence and Normandy intersection.  One
camera is mounted on the South East corner of the MTA building; another is
on the North West.  One camera is at the corner of Caesar Chavez and Vignes
looking out on the intersection by the new city jail.

One camera placed on the roof of a 28-story building has demonstrated
dramatic zoom capabilities.  With the camera, you could spot a pimple on
someone's face on street level.

The DRUDGE REPORT has not been able to learn how many cameras have been
placed throughout the city, but most appear to be mounted on public buildings.

The city council and the mayor would ride out a social breakdown episode
inside of ATSAC, according to one emergency plan.

Suggestions that officials should be moved to the bunker before New Years
Day Y2K, so far, have been met with complete resistance.

"Nobody in their right mind wants to watch the dawn of a new century from
five floors below Los Angeles," laughed one well-placed City Hall source.

The bunker, built with local and federal tax revenue, is strictly off limits
to the general public.


   X X X X X

GORE/GEFFEN 2000 HIT CONVENTION SNAG

Don't print the LA 2000 T-shirts and buttons yet.  Los Angeles' bid to host
the Democratic National Convention next year has run into "difficulty," the
BOSTON GLOBE is set to report on Friday.

According to publishing sources, the paper will report that Republican Mayor
Richard Riordan does not want to be liable for raising $35 million to host
the convention!

The GLOBE reports:  "Riordan has urged the DNC to sign a contract with the
businessmen spearheading the city's bid -- billionaire Eli Broad,
entertainment industry mogul David Geffen, and Los Angeles lawyer William
Wardlaw.

"But the DNC has always signed its convention contract with a government
executive, not a group of private citizens, according to several people
familiar with the process."

Washington sources say that Vice President Al Gore is not likely to let
California [54 electorals] slip, a deal will soon be seeled.

   X X X X X

KISSINGER TELLS 60 MINUTES THAT NIXON ORDERED BOMBING TO SHOW OFF

Henry Kissinger tells 60 MINUTES on Sunday that Richard Nixon once ordered
the bombing of Damascus, Syria.  Why?  To impress friends!  Kissinger opens
up to CBS' Lesley Stahl.  When President Nixon wanted to show off, he played
tough guy by barking out wild orders -- including, at least on one occasion,
an order to bomb Damascus, Syria -- that he never really meant to have
executed, Kissinger tells Stahl.  The Pentagon had even   moved ships into
place, according to Kissinger. "And the next day... he didn't want to hear
of it anymore."  Apparently, Kissinger never took seriously his former boss'
reference to him as "my Jew-boy" heard on Nixon's White House tapes.
Kissinger, a Jewish refugee from Nazi Germany, tells Stahl the slur was just
more bravado. "That's definitely another one of these things that if you
knew Nixon, I don't take all that seriouslyThat was showing off to his
Orange County buddies."

   X X X X X


WIRE QUEEN THOMAS KNOCKS HILLARY

First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton seems to have a rule not to answer any
press questions, reports UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL veteran Helen Thomas in
her Backstairs at the White House column filed for weekend release.

"Mrs. Clinton has a lot of hang-ups about the press... she ignores even the
simplest inquiry as if it was an intrusion."

[CTRL] Fwd: Tripp's son says Lewinsky account was ``fictional''

1999-03-05 Thread Kris Millegan





[03/04] Tripp's son says Lewinsky account was ``fictional''
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The son of Linda Tripp, the woman who betrayed Monica
Lewinsky over her relationship with President Clinton, on Thursday defended
his mother's actions and said Lewinsky's version of events was
``fictional.''

``The things she said came across to me as fictional,'' Ryan Tripp told
ABC-TV's ``Good Morning America'' when asked to comment on Lewinsky's
interview with Barbara Walters, which was broadcast by ABC on Wednesday
night.

``I was there ... She (Lewinsky) was the one that was always calling my mom,
telling her what she had to do, what she should do. It's the complete 180
(degree turn) from what I have read from excerpts and from the interview,''
he said.

The former White House intern, whose affair with the president nearly led to
his removal from office, gave her first television interview over the
scandal to the prime-time news program ``20/20.'' On Thursday, the book
``Monica's Story, written by British author Andrew Morton, went on sale.

Lewinsky, who said the affair with Clinton had left her feeling used and
hurt, was scathing in her criticism of Linda Tripp who taped her
conversations about the affair and handed them over to investigators.

Asked to respond to the public perception that his mother was known as the
betraying friend, Ryan Tripp said the public did not grasp the facts in the
case.

``She (Linda Tripp) had Monica Lewinsky calling her daily saying 'I am going
to lie, the president of the United States is going to lie, everyone is
going to lie. Who are you to tell the truth and who is going to believe
you','' Tripp said.

``People might not accept what she (Linda Tripp) did but as I see it -- I am
her son and maybe I am a bit biased -- I did not see any other option for
her.''

Lewinsky has been in the spotlight for more than 13 months as a central
character in the sex scandal that led to Clinton's impeachment by the House
on perjury and obstruction of justice charges. He was acquitted in a Senate
trial last month.

Lewinsky's first televised appearance was on video before the Senate
impeachment trial last month ago.

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[CTRL] OEN 3/5/99

1999-03-05 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A
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Bioweapons

Expert Smugglers Anthrax Inside Rayburn Office Building

Most of congress is now dead

A leading U.S. expert on biological warfare walked through security at
the Rayburn House Office Building yesterday carrying 7 1/2 grams of
powdered anthrax in a small plastic bottle, proceeding directly to a
hearing before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and
displaying his deadly sample.
The expert, William C. Patrick III, said he was trying to show how a
hostile state could smuggle powdered anthrax into the United States in a
secure diplomatic pouch and attack major federal government
installations almost at will.

"I've been through all the major airports, and the security systems of
the State Department, the Pentagon, even the CIA, and nobody has stopped
me," Patrick told the committee. "Seven and a half grams would take care
of the Rayburn Building and all the people in it."

Patrick's testimony on biological warfare and its most frightening
mutant, bioterrorism, was given during one of the intelligence panel's
rare open sessions as Congress and the administration focus increasing
attention and vast new resources on counterterrorism. Committee Chairman
Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.) said he called the unusual open session to help
educate the public on what he called "a national security concern of the
highest priority."

President Clinton has made defending the country against biological and
chemical attacks among the highest priorities of his administration. In
January, he proposed a $10 billion counterterrorism budget for the
coming fiscal year that includes $1.4 billion for enhancing domestic
readiness in the event of a chemical or biological terrorist attack.

In his testimony, Patrick revealed that he toted a number of other
chilling samples through Rayburn security "like Sherman went through
Georgia," including a small canister of 25,000 dormant mosquito eggs
that he said could easily have been infected with encephalitis and
loosed on the population at large.

John A. Lauder, director of the CIA's Nonproliferation Center, told the
committee that a dozen countries, including Iran, Iraq, Libya, North
Korea and Syria, "now either possess or are actively pursuing offensive
biological weapons capabilities for use against their perceived enemies,
whether internal or external." Countries with biological weapons
technology include the United States and some of its closest allies but
also, as Lauder pointed out, hostile powers such as Iran, Iraq, Libya
and North Korea.

Weaponizing biological agents is much more difficult for small rogue
states and terrorists "than some popular literature seems to suggest,"
Lauder said. But biological weapons remain a highly dangerous threat
because they are cheap and relatively easy to make, he said, and could
become far more threatening with rapid advances in biotechnology.

The Washington Post, March 4, 1999


Money Laundering

Britain Cracks Down on the Colonies

Time to throw the regulations into the harbor?


Some of the UK's last colonial outposts will later this month be
instructed to take fresh action to combat money laundering. The
government will also ask some of the 13 territories, which represent the
last remnants of the former British empire, to implement human rights
legislation. A UK government policy paper on the territories will make
clear the UK retains the option of imposing legislation to improve human
rights and the regulation of offshore financial services.


However, Robin Cook, foreign secretary, is hoping the territories will
implement the measures voluntarily through their assemblies.


The Caribbean territories, led by the Cayman islands and the British
Virgin islands, have a significant financial services sector that in the
past was blighted by money laundering. Steps have been taken to remedy
the problem. The Cayman islands, which has no direct taxation, last year
removed a fiscal exemption clause from its anti-money laundering
legislation.


A UK government official said more legislation was needed in the
territories to combat money laundering, regulate companies and secure
co-operation with international financial services investigators.
"Investors are more likely to put their money in jurisdictions which are
clean, and are seen to be clean," the official said. "Many of the
overseas territories have been pursuing this agenda already. But the
financial services industry is not static."


Bermuda has yet to implement measures that will create tax offences as
part of its anti-money laundering legislation. The Turks and Caicos
islands have not completed legislation to regulate the formation of
companies, and the British Virgin islands are behind with the auditing
of government accounts.


The Foreign Office has a wider concern about the adequacy of financial
services regulation in the territories. The 

[CTRL] [Fwd: B-GE: GE - Govt advice on ge contamination challenged by new independent report]

1999-03-05 Thread 1lls0081

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SOIL ASSOCIATION PRESS RELEASE

EMBARGOED UNTIL: 0001hrs Tuesday 2 March 1999

Government advice on genetic contamination challenged by new independent
report

Evidence that pollen from genetically modified crops can cause
contamination over considerable distances has emerged in a new report.
‘The Dispersal of Maize Pollen’ by Dr Jean Emberlin, Director of the
National Pollen Research Unit (1), was commissioned by the Soil
Association to establish hard scientific data on the risks posed to the
integrity of organically grown maize and sweetcorn from
cross-pollination by genetically modified crops.

Last summer Environment Minister, Michael Meacher, refused to order the
destruction of a crop of genetically modified (GM) maize bordering a
Soil Association registered organic farm in Devon and claimed that
“there were no grounds for halting the field trials as it will not
interfere with the sweetcorn crop being grown on a nearby farm”(2). The
Soil Association regrettably had to inform the farmer that the organic
status of his sweetcorn would have to be removed if there was any
evidence of contamination from the GM maize(3,4).

The Advisory Committee on Releases to the Environment (ACRE), the
Government’s statutory advisors on the release of genetically engineered
crops into the environment, stated that “at a standard separation
distance of 200 metres between the organic sweetcorn and the GM maize
the likely cross-pollination frequency would result in no greater than 1
sweetcorn kernel in every 40,000 being a GM hybrid”(5). However, Dr Jean
Emberlin, having looked at all the research available, concluded that
“in conditions of moderate wind speeds the
rates of cross-pollination at 200 metres would be in the order of 1
kernel in 93.”

Evidence is cited in Dr Emberlin’s report that maize pollen is collected
by bees in notable amounts. In this way the pollen is transported
several miles from the crop plot in suitable weather conditions. In the
case of the organic farmer in Devon, ACRE failed even to consider
cross-pollination of the organic sweetcorn by bees, even though there
are several hives adjacent to the test plot.

ACRE also brushed aside concerns about freak weather conditions by
saying that ”this was generally taken into account with seed
certification standards and there was at least 200 metres from the
nearest GM maize to the organic farm”(6).

However the report states that: “Substantial evidence exists for long
range transport of considerable numbers of pollen grains….Maize pollen
remains viable under normal conditions for approximately 24 hours giving
potential for pollination by grains that had travelled many hundreds of
kilometres on the airflow….Overall it is clear that the maize pollen
spreads far beyond the 200 metres cited in several reports as being an
acceptable separation distance to prevent cross-pollination.”

This new report undermines confidence in the advice given to the
Government by ACRE who have so far given permission to trial GE crops at
over 500 sites around the country. At least 8 members of ACRE have
direct links with biotech research, and 6 members are involved with
companies that have been given permission by ACRE to conduct these
trials. The Soil Association believes that the apparent failure of ACRE
to give impartial advice on the likelihood of cross-pollination
threatens to remove choice from those who want to avoid GM
contamination.

Agriculture Minister, Nick Brown, has recently stated that ”The
Government is absolutely committed to making sure that those who do not
want to eat crops that have been cross-contaminated (with GMO
ingredients), or to have their crops cross-contaminated (with GMO
pollen), have their rights in this protected as well”(7).

Food Safety Minster, Jeff Rooker, has also repeated this promise, “The
Government is about in April to double the aid to persuade farmers to
convert to organic production. We’re not going to allow that public
money to be put at risk by a cross-contamination of GM crops when they
are grown.”(8)

The Soil Association is calling on the Government to honour these
pledges and provide a response to this report with the utmost urgency in
order to avoid potential cross-pollination from GE trial plots due to be
planted in 1999.

The Soil Association believes that it is not good enough for the biotech
industry to be allowed to introduce these crops under a voluntary code
of practice that fails to take cross-pollination of organic crops into
account(9).

Patrick Holden, Soil Association Director, said, “The only way that the
Government can fulfil its promise to protect organic farmers (and indeed
conventional farmers) who wish to provide a GM-free choice for consumers
is through a ban on the growing of genetically engineered maize. This
report demonstrates that farmers who are attempting to grow GM-free
crops will find it increasingly difficult to supply consumers with the
GM-free food products that they are 

Re: [CTRL] Contrails

1999-03-05 Thread Scott Bourassa

 -Caveat Lector-

Forgive me if I'm insulting everyone's intelligence, but if someone on the west
coast could maybe start carrying their video camera, they could stand to expose
this charade to the wider populace, and make a substantial sum of money in the
process.  If the contrails *are* being laid out in a criss-cross pattern, by up
to thirty military aircraft at a time, even local media is bound to ask a few
questions (and when they do, coverage'll be sold to the major networks).  And,
as they do for those who obtain video coverage of storms and robberies, they'll
probably pay you a large sum of money for your VHS tape...

Just a thought,

Sgt Bee





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cc:
Subject:[CTRL] Contrails

 -Caveat Lector-

These posts came in from another list I'm on. Almost everyone on this other
list lives
on the west coast--from Southern California to Washington State.and all
have been
reporting significant contrail activity

Hello Everyone,
This is probably just a coincidence, but I got so aggravated with Los
Angeles having so many contrail patterns, 24 hr day--I called my my
congresman and reported it. At the same time, a friend of mine in the
Valley called her congressman and reported it--the aid she spoke with
immediately knew what she was talking about--said he had been in Santa
Monica and it looked terrible- WHEN WE CALLED THERE WERE AT LEAST 30
PLANES DOING THEIR CONTRAIL THING...AN HOUR LAATER THERE WERE
NONE AND
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN BACK-IT HAS BEEN TWO DAYS NOW...NO CONTRAILS!!
I'm sure it is just a coincidence, but I think I'll call again when
they
return!!
Take care everyone, XX, Santa Monica

*
They are now blanketing all of LA County from the looks of them.  High,
wide, parallel, with one at about a 30 degree angle to the rest.  As
someone said, it looks a bit like tic-tac-toe in the sky.

So, what the HELL is it?  I'm becoming concerned.



sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] Booth Tells All! (fwd)

1999-03-05 Thread Colleen Jones

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To the gentleman enquiring if Jeff Davis was catholic, the answer is
yes.  A lot of the old Southern families werethe Carrolls of
Carollton - one was the first Catholic Bishop as I recall from America.

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Re: [CTRL] Contrails

1999-03-05 Thread Colleen Jones

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Back in the early 80 period as I recall, 6 heliocopters went over our
buiding - up 6 floors it was an sinister sight; something about
heliocopters to me is so sinister.

Someone asked what was wrongI said probably SanSalvador.   It ws.
The migrating birds must be recorded by Audobon, but when there are a
lot of them out there, someone is usually preparing to go to war and
there is an alert.

So - let me toss this out.  When you have a lot of UFO reports being
circulated in the newspapers, some real, some false, usually it is a tip
off tht the Yanks are coming.

I imagine we will all be singing Skylark before it is all over.

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[CTRL] [Fwd: Rachel #640: Chlorine Chemistry News]

1999-03-05 Thread 1lls0081

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 ===Electronic Edition
.
RACHEL'S ENVIRONMENT  HEALTH WEEKLY #640   .
   ---March 4, 1999---  .
   HEADLINES:   .
 CHLORINE CHEMISTRY NEWS.
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 CHLORINE CHEMISTRY NEWS

 Several new studies have implicated chlorinated chemicals in
 human disease, including breast cancer and tooth decay. Chlorine
 chemistry is clearly the premier example of humans adopting a
 new technology without thinking about the consequences.

 BREAST CANCER

 A recent study in Denmark reveals a relationship between breast
 cancer and the chlorinated pesticide dieldrin.[1] The
 prospective study examined blood taken in 1976 from 7712 women
 enrolled in the Copenhagen City Heart Study. In the following 17
 years, 268 of the women developed breast cancer.

 The blood samples drawn in 1976 were analyzed in 1993 for 46
 chlorinated chemicals, including 28 individual PCBs
 [polychlorinated biphenyls], and 18 other chlorinated compounds
 such as DDT, mirex, aldrin, dieldrin and others.[2] Of the
 compounds studied, only dieldrin was significantly elevated in
 the blood of women who developed breast cancer.
 Beta-hexachlorocyclohexane (beta-HCH) was also elevated in women
 with breast cancer, compared to those without breast cancer, but
 the finding was not statistically significant.

 In Denmark, about 14% of all women (one in seven) develop breast
 cancer, and the incidence of the disease has more than doubled
 in the past 30 years.

 Most of the identified "risk factors" for breast cancer indicate
 that estrogen (female sex hormone) in a woman's blood plays an
 important role in the disease. The major known "risk factors"
 for breast cancer are early menarche (early age when the period
 begins), late menopause, not having any children, late
 conception of the first child, and hormone-replacement treatment
 after menopause. All of these factors tend to increase a woman's
 lifetime exposure to estrogens circulating in the blood.

 The Copenhagen study found that the risk of breast cancer was
 twice as high in women with the highest concentrations of
 dieldrin in their blood serum, compared to women with the lowest
 concentrations. Furthermore, a significant dose-response
 relationship was evident -- the more dieldrin in the blood, the
 greater the chance that breast cancer would develop.

 Some previous studies have implicated certain organochlorines in
 breast cancer, while other studies have shown no such
 relationship. (See REHW #571, #572, #573, #574, #575.)

 The authors of the Copenhagen study say theirs is the first to
 properly compare blood levels of organochlorine compounds
 because they adjusted completely for varying levels of serum in
 the blood of each individual. They conclude that, "These
 findings support the hypothesis that exposure to xeno-oestrogens
 may increase the risk of breast cancer."  Xeno-oestrogens are
 industrial chemicals (such as pesticides) that can mimic estrogen
 in the human body.

 The use of dieldrin in Denmark and in the U.S. was banned about
 20 years ago but, in the industrialized world, nearly everyone's
 body still contains small amounts of stored dieldrin, along with
 several hundred other industrial poisons, many of them
 chlorinated.

 DIOXIN

 For several years, U.S. and European health authorities have
 been hinting that the general public is being exposed to levels
 of dioxin that are probably causing harm in sensitive people.
 (See REHW #390, #391, #636.) Now the federal Agency for Toxic
 Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) has confirmed the bad
 news.

 The term "dioxin" encompasses a family of 219 different toxic
 chlorinated chemicals, all with similar characteristics but
 different potencies.

 Because some dioxins are more toxic than others, scientists have
 established a way of comparing the toxicities and the quantities
 of various mixtures of dioxins. The technique is called TEQ, or
 toxic equivalents. The TEQ system takes into 

Re: [CTRL] Contrails

1999-03-05 Thread Jim Yester

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I'm on the East Coast - North Carolina. On Saturday (2/27/99) I saw strange
contrails over Randolph County, a rural farming county. Being male, I've
observed contrails all of my life and have lived within 150 miles of military
installations all of that time. Ordinary contrails are usually singles or
perhaps 2 to 3 in PARALLEL.  What I saw on Saturday were INTERSECTING. One
formation could be described as a Pi symbol with an enlongated top line, or
maybe more accurately, the bottom third of a tic-tac-toe field. To the left
was a large, perfect X sitting on the horizon. To the right was another
smaller and less perfect X. There were short, straight, horizontal contrails
randomly all around these figures. I didn't see any aircraft; certainly there
weren't 30 of them. What I can testify to is that I have NEVER in my life seen
contrails like this. It was also my perception that the contrails were
spreading in a more billowly fashion that normal and seemed to be holding
together rather than disapating into sparce whisps like others that I have
been familiar with. Don't know what to make of this but I do know that what I
saw was, IMHO, highly unusual. BTW, had I had a camera on hand I would have
photographed them, but wasn't that fortunate.

Jim

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: New Third World Market for Americans

1999-03-05 Thread David Minehan

Interesting...



Marvin Hersh, a computer sciences professor at Florida Atlantic University in
Boca Raton, was convicted Tuesday on 10 counts of alien smuggling, passport
fraud and child pornography.

Any thoughts?

Further ideas?

Was he set up or does he just deserve to have the other one cut off?

ParanoiD...

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On Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:00:45 EST, you, Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:

By JOHN PACENTI
.c The Associated Press

MIAMI (AP) -- A university professor faces up to 100 years in prison after a
federal jury convicted him of smuggling a Honduran boy into the United States
to serve as his personal prostitute.

Marvin Hersh, a computer sciences professor at Florida Atlantic University in
Boca Raton, was convicted Tuesday on 10 counts of alien smuggling, passport
fraud and child pornography.

Prosecutor John McMillan said it was the first federal case involving charges
of bringing a juvenile into the country for the purpose of sex.

Wasn't there a Nobel-Prize winning scientist who did the same kind of thing?  I
think it was some guy in Baltimore, and he imported lots of young boys to be his
"proteges."

-JoAnne

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 hersh1.doc


[CTRL] Fwd: Guide to Historic Virginia

1999-03-05 Thread Colleen Jones


The Guide to Virginia which I hope you can pull up Brian - states that
Jefferson Davis was a member of St. Paul's.and baptized there.

It is also noted that there was confusion about his middle name;  an old
family bible I have, has all the old chapters dismissed from then New
KJV, Susannah, etc.  These are still in Douhey, I believe.

So here are two conflicting references record in a book;  and now, I do
not know for sure.  It has been 30 years since I have been deep into
some of this stuff.

One thing I learned - Booth had gotten into the Oil business.   Now that
really makes me wonder.evey where I go, the root of all evil seems
to be oil.

There is a poen called My Dark Rosaleen - something about ale from
Philip, and wine from the Pope.and it makes me wonder sometimes if
the war between the North and South was not a continuation of the War of
the Roses.

I apologize if I gave you wrong information.  I take things from my
memory banks, and know the reference to Davis being Catholic is out
there, but do not recall what book.

Keep us posted.You know the basis of the New World Order has been
before us all the time - the bible, is the master planand the -
well, here I go again.

I am going to just sign off.  Would sure like to read your stuff when
you are done.




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Re: [CTRL] Contrails

1999-03-05 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

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We've had a lot contrial activity here in Tulsa Oklahoma and they are
crossing in the sky, but the contrails don't look abnormal...  Weird...

Jamie

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From: Sno0wl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 05, 1999 1:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [CTRL] Contrails


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These posts came in from another list I'm on. Almost everyone on this other
list lives
on the west coast--from Southern California to Washington State.and all
have been
reporting significant contrail activity

Hello Everyone,
This is probably just a coincidence, but I got so aggravated with Los
Angeles having so many contrail patterns, 24 hr day--I called my my
congresman and reported it. At the same time, a friend of mine in the
Valley called her congressman and reported it--the aid she spoke with
immediately knew what she was talking about--said he had been in Santa
Monica and it looked terrible- WHEN WE CALLED THERE WERE AT LEAST 30
PLANES DOING THEIR CONTRAIL THING...AN HOUR LAATER THERE WERE
NONE AND
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN BACK-IT HAS BEEN TWO DAYS NOW...NO CONTRAILS!!
I'm sure it is just a coincidence, but I think I'll call again when
they
return!!
Take care everyone, XX, Santa Monica


*
They are now blanketing all of LA County from the looks of them.  High,
wide, parallel, with one at about a 30 degree angle to the rest.  As
someone said, it looks a bit like tic-tac-toe in the sky.

So, what the HELL is it?  I'm becoming concerned.



sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: DRUDGE-REPORT-FINAL 3/5/99

1999-03-05 Thread Teo One Thousand

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 3/5/99 10:06:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Thomas:  "When a newsman covering the Clintons at a ski resort in Park
City,
 Utah, asked the president's wife if she had a good run, she rebuffed him and
 turned her face away... The first lady is going to have to come to terms
 with the press if she really wants to make a run for a post on Capitol Hill.
 Her role model was Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, up to Clinton's time the most
 aloof of modern first ladies, but then "Jackie" did not seek public office,
 which demands public accountability and answers."

 "When she walks to a waiting helicopter with the president, she always wears
 dark glasses and stares straight ahead, ignoring reporters when a little
 wave and a smile would help..." notes Thomas.
  

Well, I personally see nothing wrong with having nothing to do with reporters.
Aloofness is a good thing when it is the tendency of those who do the
reporting to get it wrong.  I don't begrudge her it.  HOWEVER, as is noted,
when one is running for office one MUST be open for scrutiny and that means
that the press will ask questions and if you want to get anywhere you MUST
answer (truthfully and fully are matters up for grabs in the political speak
of today).  I am no fan of Hillary Clinton, IMO as big a crook and wannabe
elitist like her husband hell bent for personal power and doesn't care who she
steps on and destroys, BUT I don't like the tone of this reporter and the
inference being made in the paragraph above.  Citing Hilary for not waving and
not smiling, as if she has to always be happy and responsive, this is so much
tripe and I don't like it.  Additionally I must point out that since she is in
a position of authority on some matters she must be accountable for her
actions (such as when she headed the health care task force-which she
pointedly refused to talk about, even went to court over) while in that
position of authority,  BUT she doesn't have to be polite and happy and need
not answer silly questions that intrude on her privacy, like: "How was your
ski run?"  IMO, of course.
Teo1000

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Re: [CTRL] Contrails

1999-03-05 Thread Mike Moxley

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As I write this, the skies over Fayetteville, Ft.Bragg, Pope AFB, NC are
covered with crisscross contrails and there are several jets at high
altitude flying in straight lines going back and forth leaving trails.
This morning they were plastering the skies over Sampson, Jones,
Cumberland, Hoke, Moore, Bladen and Robeson county.
The skies were clear this morning and now the skies are hazy with spread
out contrails, yet you can still make out the checkerboard type pattern.
Over the last two weeks, the same thing has happened over south-eastern
North Carolina and ALL of South Carolina.
These jets have been over N. and S. Carolina everyday for 3 weeks producing
crisscross contrail clouds except wed. and Thurs. of this week because of
high winds and thunder storms.

If you live in eastern N.Carolina, look to the skies right now(Fri. 5th,
1425hrs) and you will see the jets and contrails.
Mick


At 12:14 PM 3/5/99 EST, you wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

I'm on the East Coast - North Carolina. On Saturday (2/27/99) I saw strange
contrails over Randolph County, a rural farming county. Being male, I've
observed contrails all of my life and have lived within 150 miles of military
installations all of that time. Ordinary contrails are usually singles or
perhaps 2 to 3 in PARALLEL.  What I saw on Saturday were INTERSECTING. One
formation could be described as a Pi symbol with an enlongated top line, or
maybe more accurately, the bottom third of a tic-tac-toe field. To the left
was a large, perfect X sitting on the horizon. To the right was another
smaller and less perfect X. There were short, straight, horizontal contrails
randomly all around these figures. I didn't see any aircraft; certainly there
weren't 30 of them. What I can testify to is that I have NEVER in my life
seen
contrails like this. It was also my perception that the contrails were
spreading in a more billowly fashion that normal and seemed to be holding
together rather than disapating into sparce whisps like others that I have
been familiar with. Don't know what to make of this but I do know that what I
saw was, IMHO, highly unusual. BTW, had I had a camera on hand I would have
photographed them, but wasn't that fortunate.

Jim

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[CTRL] Fwd: SUPERSONIC DELAY

1999-03-05 Thread Kris Millegan





SUPERSONIC DELAY
Pentagon, Virginia
The NAVY has delayed initial proposals for the Super Sonic Sea
Skimming Target (SSST) project.  The delay announcement came
within hours of a SOFTWAR request to interview the civilian head
of the project, DOD Undersecretary Buchanan.

The project, already delayed for eight years, has run into more
trouble by trying to purchase Russian built ZVEZDA Kh-31
missiles to serve for the USN target.  The Russian contractor,
Zvezda, claimed to have already won a contract not yet issued
and openly bragged the profits would fund improvements for
Russian missiles being offered in the middle-east.

http://www.softwar.net/kh31.html
http://www.softwar.net/ma31.html

RUSSIAN HACK ATTACK?
Pentagon - Virginia.
ABC news is reporting that hackers have penetrated DOD
Computers.  Pentagon officials have accused Russia.  The hack
attacks were not to critical systems.  The most likely agency to
attempt such a hack is the Russian SVR.

The GAO has reported on previous hacks into DOD computers,
including one that could have triggered a war.

http://www.softwar.net/gao.html

SOFTWAR LIVE WITH THE GRU
Dallas, TEXAS
Charles Smith of SOFTWAR will appear with former GRU agent
Colonel Stanislav Lunev live on March 13, 1999 in Dallas.  The
joint appearance will be part of a series of events on Y2K and
the threat to "America's Security" held at the Irving Arts
Center.

For more information call 817/458-7828 or

http://www.y2kupdate.com

BOEING DOING WRONG?
Seattle, Washington
The Washington Post is reporting that a a federal grand jury in
Seattle is investigating whether Boeing has violated criminal
law.  Boeing is accused of sharing sensitive data with Russian
and Ukrainian engineers working with the company on the "Sea
Launch" Zenit rocket project.

In September 1999, Boeing agreed to pay a $10 million fine to
settle civil allegations that it passed information to foreign
engineers without authorization on over 200 occasions.  Boeing
included, as part of the settlement with the Clinton
administration, that it did not admit to any "wrongdoing".

MONICA "MOSSAD" TROUBLE
Tel Aviv, Israel
A recently published book alleges Israeli MOSSAD taped Monica
and Bill.  Mossad then used the material to black-mail the
administration into not investigating a top Israeli agent
code-named "MEGA".

CONGRATS COMRADE GENERAL NIE!  PLA PROMOTION LIST
Beijing, China.
Madam Nie, wife of General Ding, and the China Director of the
successful HUA MEI operation has been promoted.  Madam Nie is
now a full General Nie of the People's Liberation Army.

Nie was the Chinese director of Galaxy New Technology, a firm
that sold an ATT secure fiber-optic communications systems to
the General Logistics Division (GLD) of the PLA Quartermaster
Corps.  The project, called HUA MEI, included a Chinese spy, the
Secretary of Defense and Stanford University.

http://www.softwar.net/reno.html

TIGER SONG IN OIL NETWORK
Iraq.
U.S. air strikes against the Iraqi "Tiger Song" air defense
network knocked out an Iraqi oil pumping system.  The advanced
"internet" for SAM missiles has survived everything the U.S. has
dropped by transferring operations to commercial networks.
Chinese Army officers have integrated the secure fiber-optic
system using commercial communications system built in U.S. and
France.  The "Tiger Song" (NATO CODE NAME) system can be traced
directly to General Nie obtaining the HUA MEI system through the
Clinton administration.

CUSTOMS NABS PLA SPIES
Mass.  Calif., USA
Beijing based laser specialists LION Photonics Inc, Dr. Yao Yi
and his partner, Colin Shu were arrested by Customs and charged
with trying to smuggle mini-laser ring gyros from a DOD
contractor.

Federal officials filed criminal charges in a district court in
Boston accusing Yao of trying to buy fibre-optic gyroscopes from
a Massachusetts defense contractor, FIBERSENSE TECHNOLOGY CORP.
Customs officials say Yao was working with the Chinese Army and
the fiber-optic gyros were destine for missile applications.

Yao claims that he was representing a Beijing firm and that the
gyroscopes were destined for a Chinese university that was
working on a railway project.

CHINA
LION PHOTONICS INC.
RM 818, 819 COMM CENTER
N JIAOTONG UNI, BEIJING
CHINA, 100044
TEL:  011-8610-6222-2077
FAX:  011-8610-6221-7528
CONTACT:  DR. YAO YI

FIBERSENSE
Boston, MASS.
The DOD contractor, Fibersense, is listed as a builder of
miniature sophisticated guidance systems.  One DOD contract
openly listed is for micro unmanned aerial vehicles used by the
military for surveillance.  U.S. Micro-UAVs are reported to be
only inches in size and capable of flying for several miles.

http://www.arpa.mil/sbir/sbir/DoD96sb2.txt

Fibersense Technology Corp.
SB962-081-00  Canton MA
$95,603 Proposal Title:  Micro-Unmanned Aerial Vehicle
 (MUAV) Critical Technologies


FIN

1 if by land, 2 if by sea.  Paul Revere - 

[CTRL] Clinton's 40th Anniversary

1999-03-05 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

 Clinton's 40th Anniversary

Bill and Hillary are now married 40 years. When they
first got married, Bill said, "I am putting a box under
the bed. You must promise never to look in it."

In all their 40 years of marriage, Hillary never
looked. However, on the afternoon of their 40th
anniversary, curiosity got the best of her, and she
lifted the lid and peeked inside. In the box were 3
empty beer cans and $1,874.25 in cash. She closed the
box and put it back under the bed.  Now that she knew
what was in the box, she was doubly curious as to why.

That evening they were out for a special dinner. After
dinner Hillary could no longer contain her curiosity
and she confessed saying, "I am so sorry.  For all these
years I kept my promise and never looked into the box
under our bed.  However, today the temptation was too
much, and I gave in. But now I need to know why do you
keep the empty cans in the box?"

Bill thought for a while and said, "I guess after all
these years you deserve to know the truth. Whenever I
was unfaithful to you I put an empty beer can in the
box under the bed to remind myself not to do it again."

Hillary was shocked, but said, "I am very disappointed
and saddened, but I guess after all those years away
from home on the road, temptation does happen and I
guess that 3 times is not that bad considering the
years."

They hugged and made their peace. A little while later
Hillary asked Bill, "Why do you have all that money in
the box?"

Bill answered, "Whenever the box filled with empty cans,
I cashed them in."

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[CTRL] [1] America's Secret Establishment

1999-03-05 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from-
America's Secret Establishment
An introduction to The Order of Skull  Bones
by ANTONY C. SUTTON
Liberty House Press
2027 Iris
Billings, Montana 59102
1986
-
Highly recommended; any of Mr. Sutton's books. There is more in this book than
can be presented here. Many charts and reproductions of orginal source
material. As always, Caveat Lector.

Available from A-albionic Research, PO Box 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220-0273
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lloyd Miller, Research Director)

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K
-

America's Secret Establishment

 An introduction to
The Order of Skull  Bones

 by

 ANTONY C. SUTTON






Liberty House Press
   2027 Iris
   Billings, Montana 59102
 1986
-i-
   The Author:
  ANTONY SUTTON was a
   research Fellow at the
   Hoover Institution, Stan-
   ford University. from 1968
   to 1973. He is a former
   economics professor at
California State University
Los Angeles. He was born in
London in 1925 and edu-
cated at the universities of
London, Gottingen and
California.
  -
Other Books By the Author
Technological Treason
The Diamond Connection
Gold Versus Paper
Wall Street and The Rise of Hitler
The War On Gold
Energy, The Created Crisis
Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution
Wars and Revolutions Parts 1 and 2
Wall Street and Franklin D. Roosevelt
Trilaterals Over Washington - Volume 1-Volume 2
Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development 1917-1930
Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development 1930-1945
Western -Technology and Soviet Economic Development 1945 1965
National Suicide: Military Aid to the Soviet Union in 1973
Introduction to The Order
How The Order Controls Education
How The Order Creates War and Revolution
The Secret Cult of The Order
The Best Enemy Money Can Buy

ISBN 0-937765-02-3
-ii

We offer no objections to their existing clan
No one disputes with them this right, we question but the plan
On which they act, - that only he who wears upon his breast
their emblem, he for every post shall be considered best.
Anonymous Yale student, 1873.
-iii-
   CONTENTS
  AN INTRODUCTION TO THE ORDER

AUTHORS PREFACE . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . vii
MEMORANDUM NUMBER ONE:
  Is there a conspiracy explanation for recent history?    1
MEMORANDUM NUMBER TWO:
  THE ORDER. What it is and how it began. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .5
MEMORANDUM NUMBER THREE:
  How much is known about THE ORDER? . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11
MEMORANDUM NUMBER FOUR:
  Who is in this secret society . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .17
MEMORANDUM NUMBER FIVE:
  What organizations has it penetrated? . . . . . . . . . 25
MEMORANDUM NUMBER SIX:
  Operations of THE ORDER . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .30
MEMORANDUM NUMBER SEVEN:
  How THE ORDER relates to the CFR and Trilaterals . . . . . . .36
MEMORANDUM NUMBER EIGHT:
  The Chain of Influence: how it works . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 41
MEMORANDUM NUMBER NINE:
  The Bundy Operation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .47
MEMORANDUM NUMBER TEN:
  Keeping the lid on the pot. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .53

  HOW THE ORDER CONTROLS EDUCATION
MEMORANDUM NUMBER ONE:
  It all began at Yale . . . . . 62
MEMORANDUM NUMBER  TWO:
 The look-say reading scam . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .71
MEMORANDUM NUMBER THREE:
 The Illuminati Connection . . . . . . . . . .  . . . . . . . . . . . . .77
MEMORANDUM NUMBER FOUR
 The Leipzig Connection . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .81
MEMORANDUM NUMBER FIVE
 The Baltimore Scheme. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .88
MEMORANDUM NUMBER SIX:
 The Troika spreads its wings . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .92
MEMORANDUM NUMBER SEVEN:
 The Order's objective for education  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 101
-iv-


 Education (continued)

  MEMORANDUM NUMBER EIGHT:
   Summary   . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .107
 MEMORANDUM NUMBER NINE:
   Conclusions and recommendations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .110

 HOW THE ORDER CREATES
   WAR AND REVOLUTION

 MEMORANDUM NUMBER ONE:
  Created Conflict and the Dialectic Process   . . . . . . . . . . . .117
MEMORANDUM NUMBER TWO:
  Operational Vehicles for Conflict Creation . . . . . . . . . . . . .124
 MEMORANDUM NUMBER THREE:
  Thesis: The Order Creates the Soviet Union . . . . . . . . . . . . . .138
MEMORANDUM NUMBER FOUR:
  Antithesis: Financing the Nazis . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 164
MEMORANDUM NUMBER FIVE:
 Angola and China - the New Dialectic  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .175

  THE SECRET CULT OF THE ORDER

MEMORANDUM NUMBER ONE:
 Introduction to the Cult of The Order . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .185
MEMORANDUM NUMBER TWO :
 Organization of The Order . . . . . . . . . . . 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: CIA Role in China Satellite Scandal

1999-03-05 Thread Teo One Thousand

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 3/5/99 10:05:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 (Reuters) The Justice Department has
 initiated a criminal probe of the CIA to determine
 whether the agency obstructed justice when it provided
 information to Hughes Electronics Corp. about the scope
 of an ongoing congressional investigation into the
 transfer of sensitive U.S. space technology to China,
 according to senior federal government officials.
  

Is it possible that the CIA kept the President out of the loop?  Not likely,
at least not completely, especially based on what Ron Brown was doing over at
Commerce.  A lot of that activity had to have Presidential approval.  Now it
is possible that he was kept out of some of it, and that the Chinese money to
DNC was to "look the other way" not necessarily to get the President's direct
involvement.  CIA old timers are in league with Bush and his cronies, for
sure, but exactly how that translates to Clinton is still up in the air.  My
scenario has Clinton hand picked,  as an ambitious "outsider" (read: non-
elite), and who had a "hook" (sexual proclivity and depravity as well as weak
mindedness and greed IMO), to spearhead the next phase of a European Union
dominated New World Order, with China as Bogey man (which may have been
assisted throughout the years especially since Nixon in becoming stronger so
as to represent a threat to the USA when the USSR fell, which was probably
known about if not planned for quite some time before it occurred [though that
may also be a ruse sheesh], by the elites like Bush who had the most to gain
and the most to give.  Most of that would have been back door dealings).
Clinton attempts to double cross his masters and is trapped in a scenario
partly of his own making and partly orchestrated.  His double-cross is an
appeasement toward China and the sale of "too advanced" technology to China
that is outside the control of (and with no profit to) the elites who have
their own high level back door programs in place, well organized and
constructed.  He may even have had the best interests of the nation, as he saw
it, at heart.  He is called to task for it, but has slipped the noose time and
again.  BTW I still can't stand him even if my scenario is true, I still feel
he is a poor leader and a greedy wannabe who should not be in office.  Now the
pressure is off so that GB Jr. can step up and take over the reins in 2000.
This story has potential which is why it will be swept under the rug.
Teo1000

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[CTRL] Real Booth Emerges (fwd)

1999-03-05 Thread Brian Redman

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REAL BOOTH EMERGES
==

(CNNS, 03/05/99) -- In the fabled  Wild, Wild East, it was a time
when men were men and women were women.   The  men  were  dashing
characters  to  whom  honor was more than just a word.  The women
wore hoop skirts under which  they smuggled coded messages across
enemy lines.

A typical family of those bygone times had neither television nor
radio.  A usual evening's  entertainment  was  to read aloud from
some classic book, with eager  ears  grasping  at  the  unfolding
story.

Yes, in those days, there was no cable television.

Izola  Forrester  describes those pioneer days well, in her book,
"This One Mad Act" (Boston:   Hale,  Cushman  Flint, 1937).  She
is the daughter of Ogarita Booth,  an  off-off  Broadway  touring
actress who had as her father the great actor, John Wilkes Booth.

Ogarita  Booth  traveled  under  names  such as Ogarita Mills and
Ogarita  D'Arcy.   (Before  the  days  of  cable  TV  and  motion
pictures,  there  were  more   jobs   available  for  actors  and
actresses.)  Her photograph is included in her  daughter's  book,
and this editor has fallen in love with Ogarita Booth.

Ogarita  Booth  was  brave; in the photo, circa 1885, she wears a
brooch containing a photo of John Wilkes Booth, her father.  (The
climate of public opinion was not  favorable to her father at the
time.)

Unfortunately,  Ogarita  died  of  pneumonia  not  long after her
mother, Izola Martha, died of a broken heart.  Izola Martha pined
for her disappeared (but  not  dead)  husband, John Wilkes Booth.
She faded away in a lonely mansion, in wind-swept Connecticut.

But  in  1859, Izola Martha was a teen beauty, swept off her feet
by the  cavalier,  20-year-old  swashbuckler,  John Wilkes Booth.
They eloped and were married by a preacher, awakened in  the  wee
hours  to  perform  the  ceremony.  The couple then dashed off in
their carriage to  honeymoon  romance,  in Edwin Booth's deserted
seaside dwelling.

Her passionate, wildly talented  husband  belonged  to  a  secret
society,  the  Knights  of  the Golden Circle.  John Wilkes Booth
lived his life in a  big  way:  famous actor and Confederate spy,
he was larger than life and devil-may-care, onstage and off.  And
Izola Martha herself was a wild Spanish beauty, full of  passion,
rhetoric,  and  daring.   Under  her  husband's  tutorship, Izola
Martha learned the spy trade.

Her husband, the wandering actor, had  promised  his  own  mother
he'd never serve as a Confederate soldier.  But his membership in
the  secret  society  drew  him,  nonetheless, like a moth to the
flame.  As the Civil  War  dragged  on,  John Wilkes Booth became
more involved, through the Confederate  Secret  Service,  in  the
drama of those long-ago days.

It's all there, in his grand-daughter's book --  the  best,  most
understanding description of those times that this editor has yet
to come across.

Booth's  grand-daughter, Izola Forrester, was determined to track
down the real story; she spent a lifetime in scholarly pursuit of
the romantic couple, John Wilkes  and  Izola Martha -- and of the
post-1865 John Wilkes Booth -- unflinching in her quest.  And she
succeeded.  In her book, "This  One  Mad  Act,"  Izola  Forrester
bypasses,  overwhelms,  and  trounces  the fake historians of the
20th century, who turn to  boredom the explosive controversies of
the past.

It's  all  there,  but  Izola   Forrester  did  not  foresee  the
functional illiteracy of her countrymen, in these, our own times.
She unwisely foresaw that late 20th-century Americans  could  and
did read books.

Too bad. Because her book is a masterpiece.

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Re: [CTRL] Booth, Brutus, and The Spy

1999-03-05 Thread revcoal

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Anyone remember the television show which was on a few years ago, with
Robert Urich, called 'The Lazarus Man'?  Urich played a man who was shot
and buried, but was not dead and dug himself out of his grave (hence the
title), albeit with amnesia due to his injuries (severe beating along with
being shot)...

He slowly starts remembering bits and pieces of his former life, in which
he was a Union soldier working for an elite group, sort of a FBI/CIA, and
that he found out that there was a plot to assassinate Lincoln that
involved some very influential people, who were the ones who'd 'killed'
him...many of the things shown on the show in regards to Lincoln sounds
very much like what is described in this document.

It was a very well-done show...with a possible 'conspiracy' of it's own
surrounding it:  it was produced by Urich himself, who was adamantly and
passionately devoted to it, down to subtle details such as making sure the
buttons on coats were authentic (might be interesting to find out Urich's
personal interest in the subject, because he seemed to be so devoted to
the show, more so than viewing it as 'just a show')...

It was broadcast on TNT, Ted Turner's network...and after giving lip-
service to being totally behind the show, once it got a fair following it
suddenly was constantly being preempted, resulting in decreased ratings;
this show had as devout and passionate a viewer following as the original
Star Trek, and they mounted as organized campaign as the original Trekkers
mounted to save the original show from being cancelled...but to no avail.

Now, this all could be passed off as just 'the breaks' one experiences in
show business, except that Turner, who'd started out claiming he'd support
the show no matter what, no longer seemed to care, and indeed stopped
every attempt to keep the show going...

To the point of taking total control of the show away from Urich, who had
decided that he'd retain control, and market the show elsewhere...a
strange move for a media mogul, who suddenly withdrew support from what he
claimed was a 'dead' show, to immediately turn around and institute legal
proceedings taking the show away from Urich...

At the time, Urich stated he would develop a different, but 'similar' show
(e.g. a historical drama involving a conspiracy), to market to other
networks...but then he was diagnosed with brain cancer, undergoing
extensive therapy, and now that he has recovered he only seems interested
in playing the captain on the New Love Boat  :-7

Shame


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[CTRL] OBRL - More on Genetically Engineered Food

1999-03-05 Thread revcoal

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 Begin Forwarded Message 
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 18:29:10 -0800
From: OBRL-News [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:- More on Genetically Engineered "Food"

Orgone Biophysical Research Lab [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://id.mind.net/community/orgonelab/index.htm
Forwarded News Item

Please copy and distribute to other interested individuals and groups

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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 19:58:51 -0300
From: Lino Guedes Pires [EMAIL PROTECTED]

~~
From Science Magazine, 283(5405):1094.

On television, Arpad Pusztai said that potatoes that were genetically
altered to resist pests stunted growth and suppressed immunity in rats
after they had eaten the potatoes for 110 days. Initially, the Rowett
Research Institute supported his conclusions. However, two days after the
television program, the head of the institute called his claims "a total
muddle," and Pusztai was suspended.

Last week, 21 European and American  scientists said his conclusions were
correct and demanded that he be reinstated. Meanwhile, members of the
House of Commons urged a moratorium on genetically-altered food
and charged the government and the biotech industry with trying to
suppress the data.

The transgenic potatoes were encoded for lectin, a protein that can deter
pests.

Reference: Enserink, M. 1999.  Preliminary data touch off genetic food
fight.


Gagging on genetically modified food

The Rowett Research Institute of Aberdeen has lifted a ban
on one of its former scientists, allowing him to speak to the
press. Director Philip James made the decision to allay fears
that Rowett was trying to suppress data that questioned the
health affects of eating genetically altered food.

The ban was ordered after Arpad Pusztai, a senior researcher at  Rowett
and an expert on lectins, said on television that rats fed with potatoes
that were genetically modified to produce lectin suffered retarded growth,
depressed immune systems, and reduced body weight.  Pusztai was suspended,
his contract not renewed, and he retired at the age of 68.  More than a
score of scientists from around the world protested the action, saying his
research supported his conclusions.


Reference: Masood, E. 1999. Gag on food scientist is lifted as gene
modification row hots up. Nature Magazine 397(6720):547.


Blair resists moratorium

The brouhaha over genetically altered foods has a serious
political aspect: Prime Minister Tony Blair is refusing to
support a moratorium on the produce despite demands from
the opposition party and his own wildlife advisory body.

The Conservative Party also has demanded the resignation of Blair's
science minister, Lord David Sainsbury, who is an enthusiastic supporter
of modified food.  Sainsbury was the chairman of the supermarket chain
bearing his name that started selling modified food last year.

Opponents also  question whether Britain's regulatory infrastructure is
capable of ensuring the safety of commercial releases of  modified crops.
Environmental groups insist that the standards should be analogous to
those imposed on pharmaceuticals.


Reference: Masood, E. 1999. . . . and Blair resists demands for a
moratorium. Nature Magazine 397(6720):547.

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GENETICALLY ALTERING THE WORLD'S FOOD

On January 14, after an 8-year scientific review, Canada rejected Monsanto
corporation's request for approval of its genetically altered milk
hormone, rBGH, a drug that makes dairy cows produce 10% more milk than
normal.[1] This was a serious setback for Monsanto because rBGH was the
company's first genetically-engineered product and Monsanto had hoped
international acceptance of rBGH would smoothe the way for its other
genetically-engineered farm crops like cotton, tomatoes, potatoes, rice,
corn, and soybeans.

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[CTRL] new..... california y2k prepare efferts

1999-03-05 Thread Troy Griggs

 -Caveat Lector-

Dave Here
Latest and greatest, Cal comes clean about what they really think of
problem.
The Y2KNEWSWIRE.COM Daily Report
Daily Y2K news and analysis, free of charge.

3/3/1999 - California urges citizens to stock up  prepare

CALIFORNIA JOINS RED CROSS, FEMA IN URGING PUBLIC TO STOCK SUPPLIES

[news]

The California Governor's Office of Emergency Services has joined the
ranks of organizations urging the public to prepare.
In an official OES brochure now available on the Internet (link below),
California, "...is encouraging California residents to
prepare now for Y2K using similar steps at those used for other
emergencies such as earthquakes and severe winter
weather."

Suggestions include:

   "Store one gallon of water per person per day..."

   "Have plenty of nonperishable food on hand for your family to
survive on for three days to a week."

   "Have sleeping bags available as well as plenty of blankets and
warm clothing. Make sure you have plenty of wood
   for wood-burning stoves..."

   "Keep an extra supply of prescriptions and mediciations or other
medical supplies used by your family."

   "Prepare for possible disruption of electrical power. Have some
extra cash on hand in case computer-controlled
   electronic transactions involving ATM cards, credit cards, and
the like cannot be processed."

Read the full document at:

http://www.oes.ca.gov/OESHomeP.nsf/Images/Y2KNewsletter/$file/Y2Kn'ltr.pdf

HOUSEHOLDS URGED TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT

Last week, Portland, Oregon Mayor Vera Katz used the phrase,
"self-sufficient" in describing her goal for Portland's
200,000 households. Self-sufficient means 100% independent of the
infrastructure. It means an ability to survive
with no outside help for a period of days, weeks, or longer.

California's OES, "suggests that all households be prepared to be
self-sufficient (able to live without running water,
electricity and/or gas, telephone and assistance from safety devices)
for three to seven days."

CALIFORNIA LAYS OUT THE POTENTIAL Y2K IMPACTS

[news]

In a no-holds-barred document straight from the California Office of
Emergency Services, a plethora of potential Y2K
impacts is described in eye-opening detail. Remember, these are not
predictions. They are potential impacts only.
However, all these are being considered by California emergency services
officials, and you should consider them as well.

They include:

   Loss of operational control of dams, resulting in loss of life,
property damage and environmental damage from
   floods

   Response delays in emergency services due to communications
failures

   Inoperability of engines, ambulances, aircraft and other rescue
support units, resulting in increased civilian deaths
   and increased property damage

   Decreased security in state facilities

   Safety system and pollution control system failures in HazMat
(hazardous materials) facilities, resulting in
   explosions, fires, mass casualties, environmental contamination,
property damage and delayed essential supplies

   Failures in the HazMat response systems, resulting in a failure
to warn the public

   Failures in medical equipment and facilities, resulting in a
reduced ability to cope with disaster casualties

   Loss of computer control systems in nuclear power plants,
resulting in widespread blackouts, meltdown and
   release of radiation, or a forced shutdown

   Communication systems failures in nuclear power plants resulting
in an inability to detect a radioactive release --
   also, the inability of the government to know about this or to
warn the public

   Air traffic control malfunctions resulting in slowed deliveries
of medical supplies, aircraft collisions, mass
   casualties and fires

   Transportation system gridlock resulting in delays in mail and
medical supplies; also inhibiting emergency response
   services

   Loss of generation or the transmission of electrical power
resulting in food spoilage, failures of security systems,
   water pressure, medical equipment, heating  cooling, public
safety, lighting, and more

   Loss of handling capacity of solid waste disposal resulting in
bio-hazardous waste, methane gas, and
   environmental pollution

   Satellite system failures resulting in failed pagers, cell
phones, credit cards and bank functions

   Failure of electrical supplies in utility companies, resulting in
failed fire detection and suppression systems, failure
   of refueling systems

Read the full matrix at:

http://www.oes.ca.gov/oeshomep.nsf/10884826d3b7edaa882565f0005adc7f/cf9568f6
fb
6c678d882566fa00835bbc?OpenDocument

[commentary]

Again, we emphasize these are not predictions. This is a "risk matrix"
that outlines potential failures and their
consequences. Most importantly, note that had Y2KNEWSWIRE authored this
risk matrix, we would have
been instantly labeled doomsday 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: DRUDGE-REPORT-FINAL 3/5/99

1999-03-05 Thread Troy Griggs

 -Caveat Lector-

the clinton"s seem to be open for scrutiny wether they like or not.
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From: Teo One Thousand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd:  DRUDGE-REPORT-FINAL 3/5/99
Date: Fri, Mar 5, 1999, 12:09 PM


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In a message dated 3/5/99 10:06:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Thomas:  "When a newsman covering the Clintons at a ski resort in Park
City,
 Utah, asked the president's wife if she had a good run, she rebuffed him and
 turned her face away... The first lady is going to have to come to terms
 with the press if she really wants to make a run for a post on Capitol Hill.
 Her role model was Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, up to Clinton's time the most
 aloof of modern first ladies, but then "Jackie" did not seek public office,
 which demands public accountability and answers."

 "When she walks to a waiting helicopter with the president, she always wears
 dark glasses and stares straight ahead, ignoring reporters when a little
 wave and a smile would help..." notes Thomas.
  

Well, I personally see nothing wrong with having nothing to do with reporters.
Aloofness is a good thing when it is the tendency of those who do the
reporting to get it wrong.  I don't begrudge her it.  HOWEVER, as is noted,
when one is running for office one MUST be open for scrutiny and that means
that the press will ask questions and if you want to get anywhere you MUST
answer (truthfully and fully are matters up for grabs in the political speak
of today).  I am no fan of Hillary Clinton, IMO as big a crook and wannabe
elitist like her husband hell bent for personal power and doesn't care who she
steps on and destroys, BUT I don't like the tone of this reporter and the
inference being made in the paragraph above.  Citing Hilary for not waving and
not smiling, as if she has to always be happy and responsive, this is so much
tripe and I don't like it.  Additionally I must point out that since she is in
a position of authority on some matters she must be accountable for her
actions (such as when she headed the health care task force-which she
pointedly refused to talk about, even went to court over) while in that
position of authority,  BUT she doesn't have to be polite and happy and need
not answer silly questions that intrude on her privacy, like: "How was your
ski run?"  IMO, of course.
Teo1000

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[CTRL] FW: UFO UpDate: More Helo Terrorism In Massachusetts

1999-03-05 Thread Troy Griggs

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From: UFO UpDates - Toronto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "UFO UpDates Subscribers":;
Subject: UFO UpDate: More Helo Terrorism In Massachusetts
Date: Fri, Mar 5, 1999, 6:31 AM


From: Greg St. Pierre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 07:10:12 EST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: More Helo Terrorism In Massachusetts

[List Only]

Hello list,

It is with trembling fingers that I report this event. I woke up
this morning to find Channel 5 in Boston reporting another
overnight visitation, this time in Lowell Massachusetts by two
dozen Blackhawk helicopters. Out of the choppers came Navy Seals
in full battle gear, and multiple explosions were heard near
some old factory or mill buildings. Once again local officials
were given prior notice, but the townspeople were not. The
report also featured some video, possibly amateur, of one of the
helos, which are based in Kentucky.

Terrified residents awoke to what sounded like an evacuation or
a battle, and upon calling the police, were told it was a
military excercise, and not to be alarmed.  One Army official
was interviewed, and said that no advance warning is given to
the populace, to prevent curious onlookers from getting too near
the site and possibly being injured.

Now for some personal observations on this situation.

I am outraged! This kind of activity is inexcusable. Since when
is it acceptable for our own military to terrify sleeping
american citizens? I am aware of the other similar reports
filtering in from around the country, and I am having a
difficult time believing that the purpose of these manuevers is
a benevolent one. There are facilities available for training
these guys for urban activities. There can only be one reason
for engaging in this terrorist activity: To guage the reactions
of civilians being introduced to martial law.

It's time to contact congress. This is going too far.

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Re: [CTRL] Booth Tells All! -- KKK Templars

1999-03-05 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 excerpts:

The "KKK" originally founded by Nathan Bedford Forest 
was originally known as the KUKLOS CLAN  [Kuklos = CIRCLE]
N.B. Forest  was one of the 12 member ruling "Inner Circle"
of the super-secret  KNIGHTS OF THE GOLDEN CIRCLE.

...the Golden Circle was actually a two-part organization.  The
inner circle was Knights Templar and the outer circle composed
of 10,000 ex-Confederate soldiers was composed of all Scottish
Rite Masons.  The Knights of the Golden Circle STILL EXISTS 

 the Golden Circle between the years 1865 and 1916 procured
through guerilla warfare, recovery of known hidden treasures and
secret investments of stolen wealth a vast fortune conservatively
estimated at todays value of over 3 trillion dollars.


 From: DTC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998
 Subj: [priory-of-sion] Re: The Klan  The Templars

 Jim,

 I am new to the forum and this is my first post.  I believe I can
 provide some info of interest on your inquiry about the Klan.  My
 background is that of a long-time researcher of hidden information,
 metal detection instructor/specialist, international treasure
 hunter, former writer for Lost Treasure magazine and other subject
 related magazines.  I have had strong contacts in the intel
 community and with living relatives of famous men involved in the
 areas of interest we are all seeking info on.  Much of the info
 forum members seek on PoS related items only exists in secret files
 in various depositories.  Obviously it could prove dangerous to
 reveal the how and who regarding the obtaining of any of this info
 revealed.  I therefore accept that some may be critical of my
 unwillingness to provide sources for what I am about to tell you.
 Nonetheless, it should at least make good reading and very possibly
 help in your research.

 The "KKK" originally founded by Nathan Bedford Forest, the American
 Civil War's most famous cavalryman is NOT the Klan of today.  It
 was originally known as the KUKLOS CLAN -- the Greek word Kuklos
 meaning CIRCLE.  Its original visible purpose was to assist
 Confederate soldiers and ex-slaves who had fought with the South
 during the war.  It was NOT formed to persecute blacks and
 minorities.  It was later infiltrated by Northern agents who got
 control of many of the lodges and quickly changed its original
 purpose into the expression of racially motivated hatred.  When
 this happened N.B. Forrest, himself ordered the Clan disbanded.
 Those lodges still loyal to their leader did so and the corrupted
 ones continued on adopting the corrupted name of Ku Klux Klan.

 N.B. Forest, himself was one of the 12 member ruling "Inner Circle"
 of the super-secret "ex"-Confederate organization, THE KNIGHTS OF
 THE GOLDEN CIRCLE.  I am coming to the unavoidable conclusion after
 23 years of intense research that the Golden Circle was actually a
 two-part organization.  The inner circle was Knights Templar and
 the outer circle composed of 10,000 ex-Confederate soldiers was
 composed of all Scottish Rite Masons.  The Knights of the Golden
 Circle still exists in both this country and Europe though greatly
 reduced in numbers.  The original Kuklos Clan assisted the KGC in
 various ways in the project I am about to describe.

 It is a virtually unknown fact (to the public) that the Golden
 Circle between the years 1865 and 1916 procured through guerilla
 warfare, recovery of known hidden treasures and secret investments
 of stolen wealth a vast fortune conservatively estimated at todays
 value of over 3 trillion dollars.  It is believed that they shut
 down the procurement part of the operation in 1916 and liquidated
 their investments in stocks and commercial operations of many
 kinds, converting them into mostly gold bullion and coin.  They
 then concealed this vast wealth in over 3000 caches throughout the
 U.S., Canada and Mexico.  I know this to be true -- I have
 personally held gold from some of these caches in my hand though I
 was not the one who recovered it.  I have seen the special carved
 markings they used (which included the famous templar sword, by the
 way) to designate the way to some of these caches.  The larger ones
 are all very professionally booby-trapped and several unsuspecting
 treasure hunters have been killed in recent years attempting to
 excavate them.

 Of these many caches there were 8 scattered around the U.S. that
 were designated as "super-depositories".  Each one contained
 approximately 70,000 40 and 60 lb. gold bars.

 I know that one hidden in New Mexico under a mountain on a
 government reservation has been excavated and removed by the army
 after its finder -- a civilian, was murdered in cold blood by a man
 believed to be in the employ of some government agency.  I have
 copies of blueprints drawn by the Confederate engineers who built
 these underground depositories and their work is 

Re: [CTRL] Booth Tells All! - Untold Story

1999-03-05 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 -Caveat Lector-

from:  http://tedn.hypermart.net/booth.htm
 ---

 THE CURSE OF CAIN

   THE UNTOLD STORY OF JOHN WILKES BOOTH

 by Theodore J. Nottingham

 ---

 Table of contents:
 PREFACE
 PART ONE: THE STORY
 PART TWO: THE LEGACY
 PICTORIAL (24 rare photographs)
 PARTH THREE: THE RESEARCH
 CONCLUSION
 NOTES
 BIBLIOGRAPHY

  PREFACE

 On the night of April 14, 1865 a gunshot from a small derringer
 interrupted the laughter at Ford's Theater and forever changed
 American history. Hardly a week after the Confederacy's surrender
 at Appomatox, with Washington lavishly decorated to celebrate the
 end of the bloody Civil War, Abraham Lincoln slumped down in his
 chair never to regain consciousness. The assassin leaped onto the
 stage crying out "Sic Semper Tyrannis" -- "Thus always to tyrants."

 He was recognized immediately. Everyone in the theater knew him.
 Most had admired his charismatic presence on stage and hailed him
 as the finest actor of the era. A dozen members of the audience had
 chatted with him that very day. At twenty-six years of age, John
 Wilkes Booth, son of the great tragedian Junius Brutus Booth and
 brother to Edwin, America's most acclaimed Hamlet, was the toast of
 Washington. His theatrical triumphs followed him from Richmond to
 Boston and his future was assured as a brilliant and beloved star.
 But in one terrible instant, it all vanished. Why did he throw his
 destiny away? Who was he behind the handsome face and winsome
 persona? What forces were at work at his side, opening the way for
 his entrance into the President's private boxseat and cutting the
 telegraph wires between the capital and surrounding army posts? Did
 his story really end at the burning farmhouse? What happened to the
 lives of those who loved him?

 Our history books have been silent over mysteries kept hidden for
 generations. But strange tales have come down to us through the
 friends and family of John Wilkes Booth that have yet to be told.
 Tales of secret societies, escape to foreign lands, children
 fathered after the father's presumed death... And the shadow of a
 curse, one recognized by Booth himself while on the run in the
 swamps near the Potomac.

 Behold, Thou has driven me out this day from the face of the earth;
 and from Thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a
 vagabond in the earth. This ancient curse is strangely fitting to
 Booth's destiny as a result of his terrible deed. It may even have
 become a greater retribution than the accepted historical theory
 that his life was ended by a soldier's bullet. But the impact of
 his terrible deed also reverberated down through the generations,
 overshadowing the lives of his descendants. I am one of them, his
 great-grandson thrice removed. My great-grandmother was the
 grandaughter of the assassin of Abraham Lincoln. Her mother,
 Ogarita, was Booth's daughter. She was six years old when he pulled
 the trigger at Ford's Theater and became transformed from a revered
 matinee idol to a desparate fugitive and lonely wanderer upon the
 earth. Booth's great-grandson, C. Edward Clutts, my grandfather,
 has recently turned ninety-one years of age. For most of his life,
 he would not speak of our ancestor out of shame and concern for his
 own safety.

   * * *

 From earliest childhood, I had heard of the dark, brooding ancestor
 who left a bloody mark on American history. The tragic tale of John
 Wilkes Booth has intrigued me ever since. From my father's side of
 the family, I developed a great love for Abraham Lincoln with his
 homespun wisdom and compassion. Through the writings of Carl
 Sandburg and the poems of Walt Whitman, Lincoln became for me a
 shining light of the American spirit at its best. On my mother's
 side, there was an altogether different influence. Carved in my
 grandfather's featured were the dark, almond-shaped eyes and pitch
 black hair of the Booth family. His mother (my great-grandmother)
 was one of those powerful women of the theater who travelled across
 the country in the early part of this century presenting their art
 in the strangest places. She was theater incarnate, with the temper
 of Medussa and the glare of Zeus. In her later years, still full of
 fire, she ran a little theater in Keene, New Hampshire where she
 carried on the family tradition to the end of her life. That family
 tradition was both grand and tragic. For she was the granddaughter
 of John Wilkes Booth. Her mother, Ogarita, was also an actress who
 openly wore a picture of her father in a locket around her neck
 until she died at the young age of thirty-two. That locket has been
 passed down to me and I recently dusted it off to show it to my
 daughter while iniating her into the drama 

Re: [CTRL] Booth Tells All! - Branton

1999-03-05 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 -Caveat Lector-

 The first half, below, is background.
 Lincoln is introduced half way down,
 and then Booth, towards the end

 from:  http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/falcon/294/mojave2.html
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 THE SECRETS OF THE MOJAVE - Page #2

   [7th edition]

   Compiled by 'The Group' -- Edited by 'Branton'

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 ...snip...

 Other evidence which tends to confirm this Masonic-Jesuit
 connection, as exposed by Dr. John Coleman and others, comes from
 an essay titled: 'THE TWIN PINCERS: MASONRY AND CATHOLICISM',
 written (understandably) anonymously.  The manuscript stated:

 (1) Thirty-five years BEFORE the Jesuits were kicked out of France
 by a Roman Catholic king, Pope Clement XII issued his Bull against
 Masonry.  The Bourbon French King, Louis XVI and his queen Marie
 Antoinette, were beheaded by an Illuminati inspired mob of masons
 and terrorists.  Why was this Catholic family, the Bourbons, so
 opposed to the Jesuits?  It is, by the way, very interesting that a
 family like the Bourbons who had opposed the JESUITS, were brought
 down eventually by the French Revolution's ILLUMINATI-MASONIC reign
 of terror, pointing to the almost obvious fact that the Jesuits
 ordered the Masons to carry out the revolution.

 (2) Why did... Frederick (the Great of Prussia) REFUSE to have the
 (so called) enemies of masonry, the Catholic Order of Jesuits,
 banned in Prussia in 1773?  Could the insiders of the Jesuits
 ALSO BE Masons?  (Note:  Mackey's ENCYCLOPEDIA OF FREEMASONRY
 states that Frederick '...was initiated as a mason, at Brunswick,
 on the night of the 14th of August, 1738...')

 (3) The Roman Catholic 'Stuarts' WERE masons from SCOTLAND... the
 Stuart, James II, tried to set up the Jesuits in positions of power
 when he became King of England in 1685...

 (4) Between the STUARTS and the Jesuits at Lyons, France, and the
 Jesuit college of Clermont, in Paris... the RITE OF PERFECTION
 evolves; out of which, the masonic authorities have quoted, trace
 today's Ancient and Accepted SCOTTISH RITE OF FREEMASONRY.

 (5) Rebold (a Masonic authority) and Mackey do not exactly agree on
 the part Chevalier de Bonneville played in THE RITE OF PERFECTION.
 Bonneville may not have been a Jesuit... but when we look at the
 part he played in the RITE OF STRICT OBSERVANCE... we see many
 indications that he was a Jesuit."


 According to Burke McCarty's book 'THE SUPPRESSED TRUTH ABOUT THE
 ASSASSINATION OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN', several U.S. presidents who had
 come out in opposition against Jesuit-Masonry had been targeted by
 the Illuminati for assassination.  McCarty states:


 (1) President William Henry Harrison.

 In 1841, General Wm. Henry Harrison of Ohio, was elected President
 by a large majority.  The loyalty of the Union (toward) General
 Harrison was above question, and it was (the aim) of the power of
 Leopoldines, a great Jesuit Spy System, to defeat him.

 "In his inaugural address... President Harrison... said:  'We admit
 of no government by divine right, believing that so far as power is
 concerned, the beneficent Creator has made no distinction among
 men; that all are upon an equality, and that the only legitimate
 right to govern, is upon the express grant of power from the
 governed.'

 "With these unmistakable words, President Harrison made his
 position clear; he hurled defiance to the 'divine right' enemies of
 our Popular Government.  Aye, he did more -- for those words signed
 his death warrant.  Just one month and five days from that day,
 President Harrison lay a corpse in the White House.  He died from
 arsenic poisoning, administered by the tools of Rome.  The Jesuit
 oath had been swiftly carried out."

 Note:  For a copy of the Jesuit Oath, refer to pp. 99-102 of
 William Cooper's book 'BEHOLD A PALE HORSE', c/o Light Technology
 Publishing, P.O. Box 1495, Sedona, AZ 86336.  The oath appears in
 chapter 3 -- 'Oath of Initiation of an Unidentified Secret Order'.
 Although Cooper 'suspects' the oath might have originated from the
 Jesuits or the Knights of Malta, he is uncertain.  However, Dennis
 Passero and other researchers have published exact duplicates of
 the oath which appears in Cooper's book, and state that it IS the
 Jesuit oath, thus confirming Cooper's suspicions.  It basically
 states that the Jesuit is through all means moral or immoral -- the
 immoral acts can supposedly be 'forgiven' if they are done in the
 name of the Roman 'church' -- to devote their life to bringing
 about the destruction of the Protestant movement, and to bringing
 all nations under the control of ROME for the glory of the 'Queen
 of Heaven', no doubt the same pagan goddess worshipped by the
 ancient Babylonians -- none other than the ancient Queen Semaramis
 to whom we can credit the post-deluvian resurgence of witchcraft.