[CTRL] China's military plots 'dirty war' against the West (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Electronic telegraph-Sunday 17 October 1999 China's military plots 'dirty war' against the West By David Harrison and Damien McElroy AS PRESIDENT Jiang Zemin prepares for his state visit to Britain this week, details have emerged of a bizarre Chinese plan to destroy the West's financial institutions in the event of a major conflict breaking out. Senior members of the People's Liberation Army are openly urging the Beijing government to abandon conventional defence strategies and prepare a "dirty war". They advocate terrorism, biochemical warfare, environmental damage and computer viruses as a means to pitch the West into political and economic crisis. The maverick officers maintain that China must use such tactics because it cannot hope to match the West's military might. The plans are revealed in a series of books and newspaper articles published recently in China. One book, which was written by two PLA air force colonels, lists 24 types of dirty war that could be used to bring America and its allies to their knees. Col Qiao Liang, the author of one of the books, justified the eccentric advice in a full-page newspaper article: "All strong countries make rules, while all rising ones break them and exploit loopholes. Barbarians [a Chinese term for foreigners] always rise by breaking the rules of civilised and developed countries, which is what human history is all about." Although the prospect of war between China and the West is a distant one, disclosure of plans for a dirtywar will cause embarrassment for President Jiang, who begins a four-day visit to Britain on Tuesday, as well as for his hosts, the Queen and Prince Philip. The 73-year-old president - the first Chinese head of state to visit Britain - begins his tour with a ceremonial welcome at Horse Guards Parade on Tuesday. He will also hold separate talks with Tony Blair, William Hague and Charles Kennedy, as well as visiting cultural and tourist attractions. The revelations will fuel the controversy surrounding President Jiang's visit. Police are already planning one of the biggest security operations ever mounted for a visiting politician in an attempt to keep pro-Tibet and pro-democracy protesters away from the president, who is highly sensitive to political protests. Officers are preparing for demonstrations at all points on the president's itinerary, including: the Millennium Dome; the Royal Observatory at Greenwich; the British Museum, where he will open a China exhibition; the Globe theatre, where he will attend a rehearsal of Shakespeare's Julius Caesar; and Cambridge University, where he will visit the university library and music school. The blueprints for the dirty war say the Chinese army should infiltrate and sabotage key pillars of Western society, including banks and the public sector, in response to a direct threat of war.The officers argue that Beijing's attempts to upgrade its nuclear and conventional arsenal to catch up with America are insufficient to prepare the world's most populous country for conflict. The increasingly global world economy is pinpointed as a weak point which could be exploited. The PLA officers write admiringly of George Soros, whose attack on the pound in 1992 is suggested as a template for disrupting an unsuspecting rival's economic system. One recent article proposed that Beijing should set aside $100 billion to pitch its enemies into financial crisis. The books analyse the tactics that Beijing could adopt to bridge the gulf with America and its allies. The authors of a book entitled Unrestricted War say such a war "surpasses all boundaries and restrictions. It takes non-military forms and military forms, and creates a war on many fronts. It is the war of the future". One passage criticises Saddam Hussein and Slobodan Milosevic for failing to exploit fully the use of hostages as human shields to deter missile attacks by the United States. The new thinking has been echoed in the state-run media, which in recent months has increasingly focused on the ways in which China can prepare for war against a technologically superior enemy. The China Youth Daily newspaper said: "Westerners enjoy a high level of civilisation and will think the measures indecent. However, no one will be merciful when war breaks out." The tactics were employed for the first time as Beijing flexed its muscles recently in response to Taiwanese attempts to redefine their island's relationship with the mainland. According to Taipei authorities, Chinese government computer hackers tried to destroy websites maintained by the Taiwanese National Assembly on the Internet. Although the hackers caused enough damage to close the site for three days, they failed to destroy data held on the central computer running the site. But limitations were exposed when Taiwanese hackers struck back, forcing Beijing to disconnect computers from the World Wide Web until a new protective "wall" was ready. The PLA planners
[CTRL] Is It the Sumerian Nibiru Predicted By Zecharia Sitchin?
-Caveat Lector- NEW EVIDENCE FOR POSSIBLE HUGE PLANET BEYOND PLUTO Is It the Sumerian Nibiru Predicted By Zecharia Sitchin? The astronomy world buzzed with excitement on October 7 as newly announced evidence from two separate research teams appeared to confirm the existence of a huge planet-like body far beyond the orbit of Pluto. For decades, astronomers have speculated that such a planet must exist. "Wobbles" in the known outer planets seem to require it. Now, observations of incoming comets apparently ejected from the extremely remote Oort Cloud by some strong gravitational force lend credence to the idea of a giant planet circling our solar system at a distance of perhaps three trillion miles, or half a light year. Dr. John Murray of Britain's Open University has been studying the behavior of so-called long period comets for decades. He has focused attention on thirteen such comets whose behavior suggests the gravitational action of a large body near the Oort Cloud, a field of primordial rock, ice and dust that envelopes the entire solar system. Speaking to BBC News Online, Murray said, "Although I have only analysed 13 comets in detail, the effect is pretty conclusive. I have calculated that there is only about a one in 1,700 chance that it is due to chance." In a research paper to be published in mid-October in the Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, Murray suggests that the so-far unseen planet is several times larger than Jupiter. Furthermore, he says, the planet appears to orbit the sun in the "wrong" direction, opposite the orbit of all the known planets. This could mean that the huge object may be a so-called "rogue planet" that drifted in from very deep space and was captured by the sun's gravity. Similar conclusions have been separately reached by physicists John Matese, Daniel Whitmire and Patrick Whitman at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. They too were watching the oddly orderly behavior of certain long period comets and began to suspect that a very large body was moving near the Oort Cloud. "We were driven to this by rejecting everything else we could think of," Daniel Whitmire told ABC News. The findings of John Matese and colleagues will be published in an upcoming edition of the journal Icarus. In that article, Matese refers to the object as possibly a "brown dwarf" and estimates its mass at three times that of Jupiter. According to Murray, if the presumed planet were in a circular orbit, it would take nearly six million years to circle the sun. Also, despite its enormous size, it would be extremely faint, giving off no light of its own, and probably could not be detected even by the Hubble Telescope. But the next generation of space-based telescopes, which would include ultra-sensitive infrared sensors, might be able to find it. Meanwhile, the discussion of a huge new planet has aroused the particular interest of researchers familiar with the work of Sumerian scholar Zecharia Sitchin. In a series of books called "The Earth Chronicles," Sitchin has eloquently argued that the ancient Sumerian civilization knew very well about this huge outer planet and described it -- and its extraterrestrial inhabitants, whom they called the Anunnaki or Nefilim -- in great detail. Indeed, says Sitchin, the very origin and early history of the human race are intimately tied to this planet, which the Sumerians called Nibiru. Neil Freer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has studied Sitchin's work for more than two decades and has written a book, "Breaking the Godspell" (Falcon Press, 1987), in which he further develops the possible implications of Nibiru's influence upon past and current humanity. On hearing of the discoveries of David Murray, John Matese et al, Freer wasted no time publicly pointing out the obvious parallels with the predicted existence of Nibiru. Freer's open letter to BBC Online News Science Editor Dr. David Whitehouse, posted to the internet, provides a brief but authoritative introduction to Sitchin's ideas and to the history of scientific discoveries in support of the reality of Nibiru. Freer has granted permission to CNI News to reproduce his letter to Whitehouse in full, as follows: Re: Announcement by Dr. John Murray, UK's Open University of possible tenth planet in our solar system through analysis of cometary data I wish to call to your attention that Zecharia Sitchin, Sumerian scholar and author of the Earth Chronicle Series of books, revealed the existence, size, orbit, and detailed characteristics of the tenth planet in our solar system 25 years ago through the translation of the Enuma Elish (When in the heights), a major document unearthed at the archaeological digs at Nineveh by Layard, and translated by L.W. King. It gives a complete account of the formation of our solar system, including the gravitational capture into the system of this tenth planet (known to the Sumerians as Nibiru and the Babylonians as Marduk); its subsequent collision
[CTRL] Crisis in the wilderness by Hanry Lamb
-Caveat Lector- Crisis in the wilderness http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_lamb/19991015_xchla_crisis_wil.shtml For links By Henry Lamb © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com Constitutional crisis may not be too strong a term to describe the current struggle between the federal government and the rest of us. Control of the land and its natural resources is the prize. It is not a new struggle. The federal government has been tightening its grip on land and its resources for decades. The Clinton-Gore administration has accelerated the pace dramatically. This administration is bolder, more aggressive, and perhaps more arrogant, than any before it. Individual freedom, private property rights, even state and local governments, are little more than pesky obstacles to be removed from the path of the land control juggernaut that now permeates all federal agencies. No one should think this is a temporary problem that can be cured by the next election. A good broom throughout the White House would help, but this problem was not born in Washington. This administration is just facilitating a global plan detailed exhaustively in the 1140-page Global Biodiversity Assessment, which is the instruction book for implementing the 18-page Convention on Biological Diversity. The Clinton-Gore administration is teeming with former executives of Green Advocacy Groups (GAGs) who, in their prior life, worked through the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN) to create the Convention on Biological Diversity. They now enjoy positions of power in the federal government and are implementing the requirements of the treaty even though the Senate chose not to ratify it. Through the Carter and Nixon years, the administration was content to move slowly. Ronald Reagan reversed many of the gains made by his predecessors. Although Mr. Bush refused to sign the Convention on Biological Diversity in 1992, he chose as his EPA Administrator the same William K. Reilly who in 1976, as a delegate to the U.N. Conference on Human Settlements, signed a document which said, "... public control of land use is indispensable." Bill Clinton did sign the treaty and immediately appointed to high administrative positions the very people from the World Resources Institute who had played such a vital role in its creation. Their aggressive implementation of the treaty's requirements are now being noticed by enough people as to create what could become the most severe challenge to the Constitution since the Civil War. Elko County, Nev., may become the Fort Sumter of a new war. The battleground is the South Canyon Road. It was carved out by buffalo and Indians, used by cowboys, fur traders, and miners long before there was a Department of Interior. The Wilderness Act of 1964 targeted 113,000 acres, called "Jarbidge Wilderness Area," which included a portion of the battleground. Area residents used the road to access the forest. The "Wilderness" designation denied most uses of the resources within the designated area. The Forest Service adopted a policy of low maintenance to discourage motorized access, and in 1970, stopped maintenance altogether. Local residents maintained the road, despite the Forest Service's efforts to close it. And in 1986, after removing a blockage from the road installed by the Forest Service, they held a ceremonial picnic. The Forest Service closed the road again in 1986, and a new wilderness bill in 1989 expanded the Jarbidge Wilderness Area, including more of the battleground. Local residents found inventive ways to continue using the road. But, heavy rains in 1995 caused flooding that virtually destroyed 1.5 miles of the road. It took two years to get the District Forest Ranger, David Aicher, to consider repairing the road. But his decision was overruled by Washington, after Trout Unlimited protested the road repair. County Commissioner Roberta Skelton, who represented the portion of the county that is now the battlefield, sent a letter to Trout Unlimited explaining that South Canyon Road was a county road and the county's responsibility, not the Forest Service's. A week later, the County Commission sent a letter to the Forest Service asserting its ownership of the road. The Forest Service responded, saying it would be "inappropriate for us to grant a right-of-way." Herein lies one of the issues that has been smoldering for years: who owns the roads and right-of-ways that predates the federal acquisition of the land? The right-of-way policy is governed by an 1878 law known as "Revised Statute 2477," which is supposed to honor all existing right-of-ways when land is acquired by the federal government. When the statute was updated in 1976, it stated explicitly that "Nothing in this sub-chapter shall have the effect of terminating any right-of-way or right-of-use heretofore issued, granted, or permitted." Federal agencies appear to be
Re: [CTRL] WHY ARE THERE WITCHES?
-Caveat Lector- Thanks Prudy, that was a great post. Would you mind if I passed it on ?...just joking..LOL Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] WHY ARE THERE WITCHES? -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/17/1999 12:31:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Today, there are modern "good witch" movements, like Wicca. Stephens argues that voluntary participation in "witchcraft" is the same old question asked in a new way. It is another attempt, by people who find Christianity unsatisfying, to make the spirit world seem real. The difference between inquisitors of yore and modern witches is that the latter are unafraid -- indeed eager -- to admit their dissatisfaction with Christianity. http://www.newswise.com/articles/1999/10/WITCHES.JHU.html Apparently all are not dissatisfied with Christianity. One of the most interesting things I ever read about witches was in a little, rather autobiographical book by Elizabeth Gouge (one of England's really good novelists of the forties-fifties era). I don't remember exactly the name of the little book, and I have never been able to get my hands on a copy, but she wrote it rather near the end of her life, and in it was a bit about witchcraft. She was the daughter of a vicar, and the incident she spoke of was related to her by her school friend who was also a vicar's daughter. According to Gouge, black magic was too disgusting to speak or write about, but white magic was a good thing, and every village in England had its white witch who was an herbalist/seer type. Anyway, it seems that these white witches attended church like everyone else, and felt that their practice of the craft in no way alienated them from the community. It also seemed that a woman had to instruct a man and a man a woman when passing on the art/craft. Well, the very dignified, churchgoing elderly lady who was the white witch in the village where the friend's father was vicar, came to him and told him that she had carefully looked over all the men in the village, and had finally decided that the most truly good of all of them was he; therefore she wanted to instruct him in the art as she knew it. She left in tears when he explained to her that he was forbidden to practice witchcraft, and that witchcraft was not acceptable to Christianity. Apparently it had never occurred to her that spells and herbalism were not compatible with the Christian faith. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] [endsecrecy] Next Bilderberg in DC Nov 4-5
-Caveat Lector- Is it normal to have a meeting so close to the last one? Do they have a big bunker there in Washington ? Get my drift ? Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 4:00 PM Subject: [CTRL] [endsecrecy] Next Bilderberg in DC Nov 4-5 -Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Remy C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: endsecrecy list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [endsecrecy] Next Bilderberg in DC Nov 4-5 Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 12:59 PM SIGHTINGS -- -- http://www.sightings.com/politics5/biler.htm The Next Bilderberg Meeting Set For November 4-5 In DC WorldNetDaily EXCLUSIVE THE NEW GLOBAL ORDER The next Bilderberg meeting Secret roster, agenda for Washington conference http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/19991012_xex_the_next_bil.shtml © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com 10-12-99 The secretive Bilderberg society, a group some believe conspires semi-annually to foster global government, will hold a steering committee meeting in Washington next month, WorldNetDaily has learned. The Nov. 4-5 conference, featuring invited guests such as Vice President Al Gore and presidential candidate John McCain, is scheduled for the Library of Congress in the nation's capital and is sponsored by the American Friends of Bilderberg. The U.S. group is directed by Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller, Paul Allaire and Richard C. Holbrooke. Since 1953, the Bilderberg group has convened government, business, academic and journalistic representatives from the U.S., Canada and Europe with the express purpose of exploring the future of the North Atlantic community. The international steering committee includes Conrad Black, publisher of newspapers throughout Canada, the U.S. and the London Telegraph and Jerusalem Post, Vernon Jordan, George Mitchell, Kissinger and Rockefeller. On the agenda for the November meeting is a panel discussion of the U.S. presidential elections and an exploration of the national security requirements for the 21st century. Among those involved in the discussion of the latter subject will be former U.S. Sens. Gary Hart and Warren Rudman, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, journalist Leslie Gelb and Secretary of Defense William Cohen. McCain, at the special invitation of Kissinger, will speak at breakfast Friday morning and Gore will make a Thursday night dinner address, according to the agenda obtained by WorldNetDaily. Others making presentations include Rep. Bill Thomas of California, Sen. Christopher Dodd of Connecticut, Evan Bayh of Indiana and former White House Chief of Staff Erskine Bowles. The list of potential invitees to the Washington conference includes the following: Dwayne O. Andreas, Michael H. Armacost, Robert Bartley, Samuel R. Berger, C. Fred Bergsten, Richard Bernstein, James H. Billington, Gen. Charles G. Boyd, Bill Bradley, John H. Bryan, William F. Buckley, William P. Bundy, John H. Chafee, E. Gerald Corrigan, Kenneth W. Dam, Lynne E. Davis, John M. Deutch, Thomas E. Donilon, Theodore L. Eliot Jr., Dianne Feinstein, Martin S. Feldstein, Stanley Fischer, James J. Florio, Lynn Forester, Charles W. Freedman Jr., Stephen Friedman, Thomas Friedman, David Frum, Richard Furland, Orit Gadiesh, Gen. John R. Glavin, David Gergen, Louis V. Gerstner, Paul Gigot, Katherine Graham, Donald Graham, Marc Grossman, Chuck Hagel, Jim Hoagland, James F. Hoge Jr., Mrs. Karen Elliott House, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, Peter Jennings, Jems Johnson, Peter Kahn, Nancy Landon Kassebaum, Robert M. Kimmitt, Henry Kravis, William Kristol, Jan Leschly, Winston Lord, Jessica T. Matthews, Charles Mac Mathias, William J. McDonough, George C. McGhee, Richard A. McGinn, Donald F. McHenry, Sam Nunn, Joseph S. Nye Jr., John M. Page Jr., Norman Pearlstine, William J. Perry, Thomas R. Pickering, Gen. Colin Powell, Sir Kieran Prendergast, Larry Pressler, Clyde V. Prestowitz, Steven Rattner, William Rhodes, William Richardson, Sharon Percy Rockefeller, Gen. Brent Scowcroft, Robert Shapiro, George Soros, Lesley Stahl, James B. Steinberg, George Stephanopoulos, Lawrence H. Summers, G. Richard Thornan, Franklin A. Thomas, Alexander J. Trotman, Wiliam Clay Ford Jr., Laura D'Andrea Tyson, Lodewijk J.R. de Vink, Dr. Ezra F. Vogel, Paul A. Volcker, Stanley A. Weiss, John C. Whitehead, Christine Todd Whitman, James D. Wolfensohn and Casimir A. Yost. The 1999 annual meeting of the Bilderberg group took place in Sintra, Portugal, June 3-6. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/19990526_xex_clinton_pope.shtml The
[CTRL] Brain Shocks May Help Depression
-Caveat Lector- Monday October 11 2:52 PM ET Brain Shocks May Help Depression By LAURAN NEERGAARD AP Medical Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - The former shipbuilder had severe depression unrelieved by any of today's therapies, so sick he had trouble even leaving his house. Then doctors implanted a pacemaker-like device to stimulate a part of his brain thought important for mood - and that very day the man laughed. ``It was remarkable,'' recalled Dr. Mark George of the Medical University of South Carolina, who performed the experimental implant. ``I said, 'Are you being forced to laugh or do you feel good inside?' He said both.'' Stimulating a nerve that runs from the neck into one of the brain's most mysterious regions appears promising enough at relieving once-untreatable depression that the government just granted permission for a study at 15 hospitals around the country. The treatment, called vagus nerve stimulation, involves sending tiny electric shocks into the vagus nerve in the neck, where it then relays messages deep into the brain. About half of the 30 depressed patients treated in a pilot study - people who had failed every other treatment - ``got a very good response,'' George said in an interview. The results are not definitive, he cautioned. But he added, ``Stimulating there really is a wonderful portal into the base of the brain.'' Full text at: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/19991011/hl/brain_stimulator_2.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Martinus
-Caveat Lector- Anyone know who this Martinus is ?? "The day of celebration for the anti Christ will be a Thursday"...Nostro Interesting, Peter!!! Martinus had his cosmic baptism of fire in 1921 on a thursday in the easter 24/3. Since I believe Martinus really has brought us the holy ghost that Jesus promised would come to help I think ther could be a link to the 33.33 you mention and the time M:s cosmic baptism took place. He says that the birthday for his mission is 1921 24/3. In March or Mars as we call it in Denmark and Sweden, the third month hmmm...you never know. Another fact that talks for M is that he had his birthday on the 11:th of August. The same day as the latest eclipse of the sun. Think Jesus, think cross and think solareclipse, puuuh... Another thing. I have been wonderig if the sentence "not far from Cancer" could be a kind of cosmical description of where something that is really bad could appear. The Sphinx is geographically situated not far from (the tropic of) Cancer. And if a human being or an animal gets cancer you could say that death lies not far from cancer. I wonder if this could be something or if I just have stayed up too late... Tommy -- Från: earthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Till: Me [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ämne: [tmg_nostradamus] All the 3's Datum: den 13 oktober 1999 08:25 From: "earthman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey All, These are interesting. We are talking astrology, masonry, Giza, *I don't know if this info has circulated on this list or not , but when the Masons have their ritual on Jan 1, 2000 from 12AM to 3 AM,. Mars with be at 33.33 degrees below the horizon from the perspective of Cairo. This is significant of course. DATA: Mars Jan 1, 2000 12:19AM273.22 [ 326.49(33.51-) ] I have astronomy software that enables me to position myself any where in the world at any point in time only thing is, I cannot pin point 33.33 hence 33.51 (360-326.49). I can get close but cannot match 33.33. I can only enter hours and minutes, no seconds. Does anybody in this group have "Redshift"? If so, does it allow you to enter a Julian date or SECONDS?* *I am sure he would agree with the arabs who says that the sphinx is the father of terror... When I saw that the zodiac have this cycle of approx. 25 800 years I became curious and started to count a little. If I have done this right the pyramids were built in the demarcation line between Cancer and Gemini. Exactly 40 signs ago. And since three is a very important number in his cosmology I find it interesting to see that since the time he said it was built there has passed 3.33 and fade, big cycles of the zodiac. http://www.lightwork.dk/Lightwork7/martinus/ * We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] A defense of reptile Sitchin
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-10-17 20:09:49 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Party A were indigenous, then party B turned up and split into party C and D Party C D had some quarrel over the party E that they had created [thats us] Party F turned up and caused a disturbance of the peace - and some parties were sent to jail and did not collect 200 genes. Some say party A is of the reptilian set Q from which party M is derived. party B is of the Federated set P of which Q is a subset. party D has a prohuman quarrel with party F whilst party C is working that to their advantage along with components of party A. party C wishes to make party E cyberslaves in their factories. Party E, the human race is getting past their sell by date and party F waits to rule on whather genes or combats should be worn. True or false - its something to which we're all party :) Turn on the Apocalypso music and "let's party like it's 1999 ..." (--Prince [of Darkess?]) DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Was the California Earthquake Man-made?
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Deuce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Harbinger list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, 18 October 1999 22:31 Subject: Was the California Earthquake Man-made? For the last 5 days we have recorded 4 anomalous radar "rings" over Southern Nevada in the same place. All these rings have been non-weather related and have shown up on official radar images. Were these Rings a Precursor to this Earthquake? You decide. Our opinion is that they do. Take a look: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/2733/page9.html Two military bases are conspicuously right smack in the center of it... Naval Strategic Weapon FAC PAC, USN and Nellis AFB, USAF What are they doing there that causes these anomalous rings? Is this some form of electronic pulse weapon? Are they deliberately causing earthquakes, or is this just a "side effect"? In either case, this is highly suspicious. What do you think? Rusty and Deuce - The Harbinger http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Keep/4885/ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] David Icke Under Severe Attack - Efforts To Silence Him Increase
-Caveat Lector- SIGHTINGS http://www.sightings.com/ufo5/silence.htm David Icke Under Severe Attack - Efforts To Silence Him Increase From David Icke 10-8-99 It's funny that since I began writing and speaking about reptilian bloodlines running the world, which, according to the mainstream and many conspiracy "researchers", is apparently ridiculous, you would have expected the opposition to my work to subside. After all, having, it is claimed, made myself look silly, and having, according to one vociferous and obsessed critic, been "possessed" by some demon manifested by Arizona Wilder!!, surely those forces I have been challenging all these years would walk away and leave me alone. They should be delighted. Indeed, if I were so far from the mark, as these critics like Nexus Magazine, Sir Laurence Gardner, and others claim, surely the Illuminati would WANT me to have every opportunity to speak publicly and so discredit the idea of a network running the planet by talking about them being reptilian. BUT HOW FUNNY! THE OPPOSITE HAS HAPPENED. SINCE I BEGAN TALKING ABOUT THE REPTILIAN CONNECTION, THE OPPOSITION HAS BEEN INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY. WHY? IF I AND THE ENDLESS PEOPLE ANCIENT AND MODERN WHO HAVE SEEN THE SHAPE-SHIFTERS ARE SO MISGUIDED, WHY HAS THE OPPOSITION INCREASED SO MUCH SINCE THE BIGGEST SECRET WAS PUBLISHED AND NOT THE OPPOSITE? In South Africa in August, I was subjected to an onslaught of attacks in the national media owned by Illuminati frontman, Tony O'Reilly, friend of Henry Kissinger etc. A columist in his main Sunday newspaper, The Sunday Times, wrote that I should be shot at dawn. They then printed a letter saying that I should not only be shot at dawn..my body should be burned on a fire of my own books, the ashes put in a lead container, and the container buried deep within the Earth. I was treated so badly on a Cape Town radio station the programme went to an inquiry by the South African broadcast complaints authority. In the last few days, I have been subjected to another onslaught, this time in Canada, with the newspapers of Conrad Black (Bilderberg Group Inner Elite) at the fore. One of his papers said that I was a "Hate" speaker who claimed that "all Jews are reptiles from Mars." Unbelievable. But this time it went further with strenuous efforts to stop me speaking at all and indeed to stop me even entering the country. Two astonishing people and their supporters invited me to speak in Ottawa, Toronto, and Windsor in Canada in the week starting Saturday, October 2nd. In the weeks leading up to this they were subjected to unbelievable pressure from the Anti-Defamation League (an Illuminati front at the peak of its pyramid) to cancel the events. They refused and the pressure was turned up and up. The ADL dubbed me "anti-Jewish" which anyone reading my books or hearing my talks will know to be the ultimate fantasy. The fact that a guy called Ivan Fraser was writing on the website forum in this same period about his view of a fundamental Jewish connection to the conspiracy (nothing whatsover to do with me and not my view) was also used as "evidence" that I was "anti-semitic". Ironically, the first venue in Ottawa, the Bronson Centre, cancelled because it is owned by an order of nuns and they said they would not let me speak because I was anti-Christian! In South Africa, I was dubbed anti-Muslim!! You have got to laugh, really. Anyway, the organisers had to move the Ottawa venue FOUR times in the last 48 hours alone and they could not even make the last venue public because the ADL and others were immediately putting pressure on the owners to cancel. Have you ever noticed how those who dub others as purveyors of hate have hate in their hearts? And that those who claim to be anti-fascist act in every way like the fascists? The Nazis in Germany went around stopping public meetings of those groups that were opposing them, just like the Illuminati ADL do today. The incredible guts and fortitude of the two organisers would not budge and every time the ADL tried to stop them, they found a way around it. Then it came time for me to enter Canada for the talks. I arrived at Ottawa Airport on the evening of October Ist. I was at the back of the queue for immigration and when I looked up there was a uniformed officer standing next to me, looking like a shark who had just eyed lunch. I made a joke with her and she walked away back behind the immigration point and said to her tall blond colleague; "That's him", as clear as day. (I think her application for a job with plain clothes surveillance needs to be reconsidered). When I got to the immigration booth, the guy was very nice at first and we joked a bit. Then he punched my name into his computer and the energy changed immediately. I later saw why. He said I would have to be seen by immigration..no other comment. I was then led into the immigration and customs area at the back and treated with aggression by staff who were all
[CTRL] Death revisits Timor house of horror
-Caveat Lector- - Death revisits Timor house of horror - Alastair McLeod Balibo, East Timor 10/10/99 -- [Previously suppressed documents concerning the deaths of Australian Journalists, including Malcolm Rennie, 28, and Brian Peters, 29, from Britain, 'may' be released later this year - if seen fit] -- In a small house in the wasteland of the town of Balibo last week Australian troops found East Timor's violent and tragic past finally catching up with its blood-soaked present in a hideous and unexpected way. Inspecting the little house room by room, the soldiers found patches of dried blood and lipstick smeared on the walls and came to the conclusion that they were only a few weeks old. They were the macabre signature of Kopassus, the Indonesian special forces, whose troops are known to have occupied the house until recently. When they raped, Kopassus soldiers liked to smear lipstick on their victims' mouths and force them to kiss the wall, the Australians said. They found a carefully drawn beret and dagger, the symbol of Kopassus, on the wall of one room, reinforcing their theory of what had happened. Then they realised it was no freak accident that this sea-green painted house, one of the few left standing in the town after the recent destruction, had been used by Kopassus as a site of murder, rape and torture. The horror was entirely consistent with the grim past of the house. On October 16, 1975, five Australian-based television journalists - including Malcolm Rennie, 28, and Brian Peters, 29, from Britain- were killed by Kopassus soldiers in or just outside the house. They were unarmed and had been captured by Indonesian troops who were invading East Timor. At least two other houses in the shattered little town dominated by an old Portuguese fort bear similar hallmarks of recent torture and murder since East Timor voted for independence on August 30. The Australians said one of them had electric cables rigged in unusual places and slung over rafters, consistent with Kopassus torture techniques. The ugly story of the journalists' deaths in 1975 has still not been cleared up, despite several inquiries in Australia. The finger of suspicion points at Yunus Yosfiah, Information Minister today in the government of President B J Habibie. Yosfiah was a Special Forces captain in East Timor back in 1975, when Indonesia annexed the former Portuguese colony. He has denied any involvement in the deaths, but at least one witness has said he gave the order to kill the journalists. Alexander Downer, Australia's Foreign Affairs Minister, has indicated that previously suppressed documents concerning the deaths will be released later this year. This weekend Balibo was firmly under the control of the 2nd Company of the Royal Australian Regiment. About 200 troops protected the town and its one remaining inhabitant, an elderly woman living in a thatched hut. She sat outside, moaning to herself. Balibo lay in ruins, almost all its buildings burnt or ransacked. The one thing left untouched was a statue in the Town Square celebrating East Timor's union with Indonesia. Last Tuesday an East Timorese man named Sylvestre walked into Balibo. He had fled from a refugee camp at Atambua in West Timor, which remains part of Indonesia, crossing the border after walking through hills and forests during the night. He described the conditions in the camp as dangerous and appalling. "At night, the [pro-Jakarta] militia roam through the camp killing and raping with impunity," he said. There was a desperate food shortage in the camp with the militia pillaging what little was available. A former resident of Balibo, Sylvestre described how the whole town had been forced to leave in the second week of September. "The militia came and told us to leave or they would kill us and burn our houses," he said. Sylvestre said he had decided to escape from the camp and return to Balibo after a vicious series of attacks last weekend. People were not free to leave and many were too scared to do so because they had been told that the militia were assembling 3,000-12,000 men on the border to attack first Balibo and then the rest of East Timor, he said. Such rumours spread fear and uncertainty among an already terrified population. Even though Interfet, the Australian-led multinational peacekeeping force in East Timor, now controls a significant section of the western part of the territory, the expected return of refugees from the hills and across the border has not so far materialized. Warrant Officer Terry Dewhurst said none of his soldiers had seen a human being in the four days they had been patrolling the area. There were reports that hundreds were living in caves near Maliana and Bobinaro, 15 miles away. A team of international investigators is expected imminently in East Timor to look for evidence
[CTRL] Swiss Banks and Berezovsky Again
-Caveat Lector- Russia: Aeroflot Laundered Money LAUSANNE, Switzerland (AP) - Russian investigators suspect that media mogul Boris Berezovsky and two airline executives hid some $600 million of hard currency in Switzerland - almost three times more than any figures previously revealed - according to court papers released today. Investigators had previously accused Berezovsky of hiding and laundering about $200 million. The new figure was given to Swiss authorities by Russian investigators who asked for Swiss help in finding evidence and blocking bank accounts. The Russian investigators claim Berezovsky, Nikolai Glushkov and Alexander Krasneker stole $400 million of profits from the Russian airline Aeroflot. They also allege the three took $200 million in air traffic fees. The money was hidden in two Swiss companies, Andava and Forus Services, the Russian investigators say. It was then laundered through various financial operations, including purchases of property and shares, the investigators say. The investigation is still underway, and Berezovsky has denied the charges. The two Swiss companies and two of their directors had appealed many of the investigators' moves, including the freezing of bank accounts, the seizure of documents and the questioning of one of the directors by Swiss prosecutors in the presence of the Russian investigators. The Swiss federal court said today it has turned down those appeals. Forus has insisted that ``it has not committed any irregularities whatsoever.'' The firm says it arranged some $180 million of short-term credit facilities for Aeroflot in 1997 and 1998 for such needs as buying airplanes. It insists it never possessed or had access to Aeroflot funds. Swiss prosecutors seized large quantities of documents from Forus and Andava during a search of the two companies in July. The search came after Switzerland decided to help Russia investigate the case. Earlier this month, Forus said it filed a suit against Switzerland's former federal prosecutor, Carla del Ponte, for possible industrial espionage and breach of official secrecy. Forus accused del Ponte and her colleagues of passing documents from Forus to Russian prosecutors, with the full knowledge that those documents would be passed on to Aeroflot. That improperly provided the airline with inside information on Forus, the company said. Berezovsky reportedly has considerable holdings in the media, auto manufacturing and the oil industry. He announced this summer that he would run for parliament in December elections. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hegel [repost]
-Caveat Lector- Through them, primarily, and through those who influenced them, we will discover more of what might be called the OCCULT side of Hegel's philosophy, with one foot in Lutheran Pietism (a native mystical development within the peculiarly German form of Protestant Christianity) but the other more in PRE-Christian visions, through Greco-Roman Neoplatonism -- the object of much admiration among Romantics and key source of their inspiration. (In fact, one would not be far from wrong in simply saying that Idealism is Neoplatonism wearing Teutonic attire.) Finally, we will discuss the ultimate source of Hegel's "Idealism" and the origin of the ideologies or belief systems directly born from Hegel's philosophy -- Neo-Platonism in its DUALISTIC form, generally called "Gnosticism," which from the beginning of the Christian era has constituted a thorn in the side of the established Church, being an ALTERNATIVE theology -- "Manichaeanism," a sort of "evil twin" to Christianity wherein there is believed to exist not ONE but TWO Gods --both EQUAL-- and "the Ruler of This World" (in St Paul's words) is EVIL. To bring the subject back to the point, it will be shown exactly how HEGEL incorporated an epistemological ERROR into his philosophy, in effect opening once more the floodgates to this ancient pre-Christian, even ANTI-Christian dualism. Yet in so doing, it must be conceded, Hegel committed an "error" that is a characteristically GERMAN one, reflecting a long-enduring schism in what he would term the German "Spirit," because the same inclination (subjective, not intellectual) resurfaces time and time again in the history of the German culture, present as much in the belief systems of the Teutonic Knights (converted to Christianity comparatively late) --as displayed, for example, in Wolfram von Eschenbach's GERMAN "Grail saga," in contrast to the FRENCH version of the same legend-- as among the myths revered by the Nazi "black magicians," described (melodramatically) by Trevor Ravenscroft in "Spear of Destiny" or (more accurately) by Peter Levenda in "Unholy Alliance." Hegel overturned the whole philosophic thinking of the era, which was leading to the concept of the sovereignty of the law under the rulership of God. Both the state and the individual were subject to the rule of (biblically based) Law. Hegel took many of his ideas from plato. I suspect(but can't prove) that some came from the esoteric world of the day and he was promted into his mode of thinking.- An interesting quote from Jews, God and History (Dimont)shows that even the dialectic process had antecedants in the esoteric world. "A new metaphysical philosophy was injected into Cabalism in the sixteenth century by one of the great Cabalistic scholars, Isaac Luria (1534- 1572) known as Ari, 'the lion.' Luria held that all matter and thought evolved through a three stage cycle: tzimtzum, literally 'contraction' or thesis; shevirat hakeilim, literally 'breaking of the vessels' or antithesis; and tikkun, literally 'restoration' or synthesis". Tikkun- is the name of Rabbi Michael Lerner's magazine, who was the spiritual advisor of First Lady Hillary Clinton. John DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The smoking of hemp
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, earthman wrote: and b.t.w. washington and jefferson traded samples of their crops; washington saying that a pipeful of hemp was much more pleasurable than a pipeful of tobacco and more enjoyable than whiskey! just thought you would like to know. And I DID appreciate knowing! Sounds like all the boys of Big Sir in the 70s-80s!! And, I can RELATE! __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Additional sites lists: http://www.farm-online.com/farms/royalscot.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] And check out these lists: AnimaLovers farmers_barter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Bright Lights in California -various items.
-Caveat Lector- This is about bright lights seen in the sky during the recent California earthquake. If anyone objected to reposting please let me know. Nicky Subject: Bright Lights in California -various items. http://www.ufoalert.com/cgi-bin/fileit.cgi?read=11507 Bright Lights in California Bulliten board on this page too. You may see more posted. Posted by Pamela on Saturday, 16 October 1999, at 5:08 a.m.( no email address) About two hours ago, I woke up right before an earthquake at about 2:45 a.m. PDT in Orange County, California. While the shaking was subsiding, there was this HUGE flash of blue light from the sky, right above my place. There's quite the cloud coverage, so I couldn't tell where it was coming from, other than within the coverage--and it seemed to light up the entire sky with the flash. It lasted longer than a *flash,* though. What was also odd was that I heard this very loud, low-pitch, mechanical sound. Hard to describe, except that it sounded like it was revolving--louder at one point than another. Then, almost immediately, I saw the same light (almost a burst of light with that loud sound) about halfway between my place and the horizon over a large, vacant field behind where I live. And then on the horizon--when it flashed, it lit up half the horizon (like you've see with those atom bomb explosions, but without the *mushroom*). Then, one more flash, but this time it had moved about 1/4 mile south toward the beach. Then, I heard that mechanical sound again, only from a greater distance--and simultaneously felt a small aftershock. I've experienced transformer blow-outs before too--with a blue light and almost blue lightening/static in the sky--but this happened over an empty field, without any electrical or phone wires there. And it was very different. About 10 minutes after the last flash, there was a helicopter flying over the field and headed toward the Santa Ana river, with its search lights on. In about another 10 minutes, I heard loud voices off in the distance, as if they were transmitted over a police radio. So, this must have been reported to the local authorities and they're investigating something... My electricity never went out, but obviously there was some type of power surge, because my computer had turned itself off. Am I crazy? Did anyone else in the area of Costa Mesa/Newport Beach see these lights and/or hear that sound? 2 responses to Pamelas post below. http://www.ufoalert.com/cgi-bin/fileit.cgi?read=11536 Re: Bright Lights in California Posted by SKL on Monday, 18 October 1999, at 1:35 a.m., in response to Bright Lights in California, posted by Pamela on Saturday, 16 October 1999, at 5:08 a.m. I live east side of Portland, Oregon...I was up about 2:48 am. PDT10/16/99. as I have been dealing with ear infection last two weeks and have ringing in the earsI saw the "flash" but thought it was at the time car lights ...but the "noise" I heard a low like roatating "motor" soundI liken it to something of what you would think of a UFO outside your door...I was quite scared in some wayssent an E-mail to a friend after I woke my hubby up to see if he could "hear" this sound...which he said..."Go to bed!"...so I did...awoke to hear the news of the earthquake. I think the result most likely of a Solar Flare hitting the earth. There is a world-wide meditation going on next Sunday amoung "light-workers" to assimulate this incoming energy and distribute it evenly if possibleand create a sort of a protective "grid" around the earth. Let's hope they are successful. Before someone gets truly "hurt":) They are claiming an influx also of negative "thoughts" that need eliminated before they become truth...and are asking all peoples to act accordingly. I here some of the same humming noise now as then but hope it passes by .and we are safe. I hope we are not creating our own problems!!! I believe that my neighbor's Hamm Radio antenea is picking up the radio waves from your area..as it has in the past... an i am hearing those radio waves. It is known fact that just prior to earthquakes they emmit these radio waves from the earth for some reason unknown as to date.sometimes up to 12 hours prior. _--- - Re: Bright Lights in California Posted by Lion on Sunday, 17 October 1999, at 4:04 p.m., in response to Bright Lights in California, posted by Pamela on Saturday, 16 October 1999, at 5:08 a.m. I did not see the blue lights that you mentioned regarding the earthquake in California but I did see that same blue flash BEFORE the nuclear accident in Japan. - Am I crazy? Did anyone else in the area of Costa
Re: [CTRL] Scottish Ark of Covenant
-Caveat Lector- The Ark is in Roslyn Chapel in Scotland.. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Black Sun - What the hell?
-Caveat Lector- The Denver Airport is very strange...why all the death and destruction? Why the Masonic symbols? Denver is the center of this country...maybe it is the NWO city... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Mumia Role of Justice
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mumia Role of Justice Date: Saturday, October 16, 1999 4:00 PM This site makes the cause against Mumia Abu- Jamal: http://danielfaulkner.com/splash.htm I have to say that the case presented there is supported by better documentation than the other side, which tends to rely on claims that one must take on faith. It seems that they show that Mumia's lawyer has made public claims that are badly out of context to the extent that the opposite may in fact be the truth. Claims made by the lawyer appear to be the backbone of most of the essays on Mumia's case. This is the main document that presents the case found there: http://www.danielfaulkner.com/Pages/Mumia.pdf It is nevertheless an outrage that witness Veronica Jones was arrested on the stand on charges unrelated to this issue when she said things that judge did not want to her to say. Such is the use of force to coerce a witness. The people who are outraged at Mumia and want this "COP KILLER" murdered as soon as possible do not demand retribution against the police that murdered 12 men, women, and children in their attack on MOVE. Police Commissioner Gregore Sambor testified that the first shots came from an automatic weapon, which MOVE members did not have. Police unloaded 10,000 rounds of ammunition into the city apartment from Uzis, shotguns, M-16s, .50-caliber machine guns, Browning semiautomatic rifles, and M-60 machineguns. [*] They finished off the job by dropping a bomb on the roof that ended up burning down an entire city block. How many cops are sitting on death row for that crime? So, if we assume that Mumia, a MOVE member, did kill Officer Faulkner, a member of the group that killed MOVE members, it could be argued that Mumia's worst crime is roughly comparable to the desire of people who want a revenge murder of Mumia. A cycle of revenge. Whatever the truth may be in this case, I hold to the concept that we do not teach people that killing people is wrong by killing people. The legal effort to kill Mumia has been an effort to effect a revenge killing and is not an effort to curtail social violence. In fact, that revenge killing will most assuredly lead to more social violence, to more revenge. The legal system needs to be the place where the cycle of violence and aggression ENDS, not the means of giving one side the upper hand. The side given the upper hand in the case of MOVE, Waco, and many others is the State and the murderous Storm Troopers of the State. __ [*] The Waco Before Waco, by Richard Poe: http://newsmax.com/articles/?a=1999/9/22/85323 GODDARD'S JOURNAL: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html
[CTRL] Fw: SNET: Earthquake report in Orange County: Pamela
-Caveat Lector- Bit more -Original Message- From: Reinhard Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, 18 October 1999 22:49 Subject: SNET: Earthquake report in Orange County: Pamela - SNETNEWS Mailing List Regarding Pamela's earthquake experience and request for other experiences in her neighborhood. I live in Irvine, near Culver and the 405 Fwy. I was at my computer when the earthquake hit. I went outside the front of my house, facing north. There is a two-story house to my west side, blocking any view of Costa Mesa. I did see flashes in the sky to the northwest, presumable transformes blowing. The glows seemed to emanate from the ground. I did not hear any noise at this time. I also felt the aftershock about ten minutes later (?), again with no noise. I hope you find some corroboration for your observation, Pamela. Sincerely, Reinhard - Send "subscribe snetnews " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Posted by: Reinhard Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Underground base by Norio Hayakawa
-Caveat Lector- http://members.aol.com/phikent/trucker.txt by researcher, Norio Hayakawa. A week ago I was having breakfast at SAPP Brothers truck stop just south of Omaha. I had a UFO magazine with me when this trucker seated across from me in the non-smoking section asked why I was interested in UFO's. I told the trucker about my experiences, when I was finished the trucker toldme a story that made the hair stand up on the back of my neck... Don, This report is only seven days old, feel free to share with Vince DiPietro, Dr. Brandenberg and serious friends. A week ago I was having breakfast at SAPP Brothers truck stop just south of Omaha. I had a UFO magazine with me when this trucker seated across from me in the non-smoking section asked why I was interested in UFO's. I told the trucker about my experiences, when I was finished the trucker toldme a story that made the hair stand up on the back of my neck...A few weeks ago she and her husband were solicited to pick up a load from a military base in Arizona ( they weren't told where but were given a map by the dispatcher) They pulled into the base gate and uniformed guards hooked up the trailer which was "refrigerated". They were instructed to proceed thru Utah, stop into Wright Patterson in Ohio then go on to gues where..Wytheville, Virginia. Along the way they were instructed to "bypass" any weigh stations and to show the contents of an envelope to any law enforcement agency which might stop them. They bypassed a weigh ststion just east of Salt Lake City Utah when they were pulled over within five minutes by the highway patrol. Within two minutes of their truck being pulled over four unmarked "U.S. InterAgency" cars pulled up on the shoulder of the road and Two Black Heilocopters landed in a small field off the highway. One man dressed in as black suit came over to the highway patrolman with some identification then went over to the truckers cab and asked for the contents of the envelope which were shown to the officer. The Utah Patrolman was a bit shaken and told them in a pretty nervous fashion to get on their way. The copters took off immediately after the guy in the black suit boarded and the cars sped away...they were escorted by the same cars to a grassy road just west of a very large hill just a couple of miles from Wytheville, Viginia. There were trees close on both sides and from the secondary highway you could look right at the grassy area and not know it was a road. The trucker stated that they drove for twenty minutes at about 5 m.p.h. to huge doors imbedded in the side of a hill. They went down a gradual slope on concrete once inside. They said it looked like the inside of a modern office building, cameras all around, guards in black uniforms, no badges, no patches. One guard got inside the cab with them which the trailer was unhooked. They were then shown the way out through a very long tunnel, at least a mile or two long. They came out right next to a via duct, some chain link fences along an interstate route near Wytheville. The truckers said they had been though that area mnany times before but never saw this exit. The guard closed the normal looking serrvice gate after they passed through, got into a black humvee and drove back down the highway some distance behind them then they couldn't see him anymore. The area they were in was a remote wooded and hilly area then when they came out it was almost flat except for where the tunnel was coming out of the hill.end of transcript...This was related to me by a trucker whose partner been instructed to stay with the truck. They were taking another trailer from Ohio back to a base near Las Vegas, Nevada. Wonder where that could be...Now here is the best part on the side of thre trialer was a small 12" rectangular logo which read "EG G". Jack Kasher is aware of this story. Please be careful who you share this with as I promised the trucker anonimnity and gave them my card. If they have anymore weird loads they said they would fax me a note from a truck stop where they might spend a night or two. Should I hear from them when they are coming your way perhaps you could round up some serious investigative type people you know well and look into it ? Let me know what you want to do with this information "Per Ardua Ad Astra Ole Buddy"..Cordially- Harry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
Re: [CTRL] Black Sun - In depth website here...
-Caveat Lector- Check this out... http://www.anomalous-images.com/christo.html Jamie -Original Message- From: C Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 6:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Black Sun - What the hell? -Caveat Lector- The Denver Airport is very strange...why all the death and destruction? Why the Masonic symbols? Denver is the center of this country...maybe it is the NWO city... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is It the Sumerian Nibiru Predicted By Zecharia Sitchin?
I wish to call to your attention that Zecharia Sitchin, Sumerian scholar and author of the Earth Chronicle Series of books, revealed the existence, size, orbit, and detailed characteristics of the tenth planet in our solar system 25 years ago through the translation of the Enuma Elish (When in the heights), a major document unearthed at the archaeological digs at Nineveh by Layard, and translated by L.W. King. It gives a complete account of the formation of our solar system, including the gravitational capture into the system of this tenth planet (known to the Sumerians as Nibiru and the Babylonians as Marduk); its subsequent collision with a large planet, Tiamat, orbiting then between Mars and Jupiter; the formation of the asteroid belt, comets and meteorites from the impact; [and] the translation of the larger part of the impacted native planet into our orbit to become Earth. The Enuma Elish says that the intruder planet settled into a huge elliptical orbit of 3600 years around our sun in the "wrong" direction, counter to the orbital direction of the other planets, [and] that it returns to the inner solar system through the asteroid belt area periodically. It gives the details of the path it can be observed taking through the constellations as it approaches and the disruptive events its close passing causes on Earth. Shame on you, Neil Freer. Hasn't anyone here actually READ the Enuma Elish? It "says" no such thing -- unless you take every statement in it as meaning something OTHER than what it LITERALLY says -- for example, a "god" who walks around on earth like a human being (Marduk) in the REST of Sitchin's tales is HERE suddenly RE-interpreted as a PLANET, and words or names that EVERYWHERE ELSE in the Sumerian texts have ONE meaning, in THIS case acquire a DIFFERENT meaning. A la Sitchin's intriguing but absurd RETRANSLATION of the Semitic word "shem." "Unto you a child shall be born, and ye shall call his [ROCKETSHIP] Jacob"?! I'm presenting here a decent translation of the Enuma Elish --which is not SUMERIAN but BABYLONIAN, composed no earlier than 1200 BC-- so that you can all read it for yourselves. Then tell me how "scholarly" Zecharia Sitchin has behaved any differently from Erich von Daniken, who would point to a Mayan picture of a reclining man amid symbolic gobbledegook and then "reveal" to us that what it "really" portrayed was an astronaut sitting in a space capsule (never mind that, according to its inscription, it might portray a specifically named king living 800 AD, no spacecraft ever noticed) ... ___ from http://www.angelfire.com/tx/gatestobabylon/index.html THE BABYLONIAN EPIC OF CREATION: THE ENUMA ELISH This long poem was written principally in the 12th Century BC to celebrate the city of Babylon. It recounts the creation of the universe and the events that lead up to the building of Babylon, home for the gods. It evolved from Sumerian myths and th e text that it is taken from is Assyrian, an empire that followed the Sumerian. The almost complete text is set out on seven tablets wih about 150 lines on each tablet. It was written probably to be sung at festivals in honour of the gods and Babylon. In its original language, it is written with no rhyme or alliteration but with some assonance that lends it a hypnotic sound. It probably sounded similar to Georgian chants in being sung by several voices. The poem was translated by N. K Sandars. __ When there was no heaven, no earth, no height, no depth, no name, when Apsu was alone, the sweet water, the first begetter; and Tiamat the bitter water, and that return to the womb, her Mummu, when there were no gods- When sweet and bitter mingled together, no reed was plaited, no rushes muddied the water, the gods were nameless, natureless, futureless, then from Apsu and Tiamat in the waters gods were created, in the waters silt precipitated, Lahmu and Lahumu, were named; they were not yet old not yet grown tall when Anshar and Kishar overtook them both, the lines of sky and earth stretched where horizons meet to separate cloud from silt. Days on days, years on year passed till Anu, the empty heaven, heir and supplanter, first-born of his father, in his own nature begot Nudimmud-Ea, intellect, wisdom, wider than heaven's horizon, the strongest of all the kindred. Discord broke out among the gods although they were brothers, warring and jarring in the belly of Tiamat, heaven shook, it reeled with the surge of the dance; Apsu could not silence the clamour, their behavior was bad, overbearing and proud. But still Tiamat lay inert till Apsu, the father of gods, bellowed for that servant who clouds his judgment, his Mummu, 'Dear counselor, come with me to Taimat.' They have gone, and in front of Tiamat they sit down and talk together about the young gods, their first-born children; Apsu said,
[CTRL] Russia -- new U.S. defense contractor? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Russia -- new U.S. defense contractor? Weapons lab convinced it's favorite for fighter jet contract By Charles Smith © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com A Russian-based weapons lab accused of selling sophisticated missiles to China is convinced its ejection seat will beat out bids by all U.S. defense contractors for the new U.S. Joint Strike Fighter project. The JSF is the next fighter aircraft designed to replace the Marine AV-8 Harrier, the Navy F-18 and the USAF F-16. The Russian firm Zvezda is placing its K-36D advanced seat against three other western defense companies for the JSF aircraft. The four ejection seat selections have been narrowed down to the Martin-Baker Mk.16, the Boeing-made ACES 2, a seat from BFGoodrich's UPCO subsidiary and Zvezda's K-36D. JSF prime contractors will have the final choice of ejection seats for their respective designs. Boeing and Lockheed are to pick seats for proposed JSF demonstrator fighter jets. The U.S. Air Force, Navy and Marines are then slated to pick between the two JSF demonstrators during fly-offs in 2001. Boeing has not made a selection, but Lockheed has already selected UPCO for its JSF flight demonstrator. Lockheed has not made a selection for the final JSF production. Despite the open competition between U.S. and U.K.-based defense contractors, there are indications that Russian-based Zvezda has already won the contract, using political clout within the Clinton administration. Zvezda recently demonstrated its political influence inside the Clinton administration by successfully securing a multimillion-dollar contract for the SSST -- the U.S. Navy's Super-Sonic Sea-skimming Target drone project. Zvezda announced last month that it had won a contract to provide 100 MA-31 target missiles to the U.S. Navy. The U.S. Navy selection will close Allied Signal's Mishawaka Indiana target systems plant. Zvezda's general director, Sergei Yakovlev, confirmed the signing of the U.S. Navy contract. Yakovlev was quoted by the Russian-based news service Kommersant-DAILY as saying, "We sell the X-31A to India, China, and Vietnam, and the military is happy." The JSF ejection seat has to carry a pilot away from the airplane safely in an emergency. The JSF seat must perform in a wide variety of conditions, including high-speed, high-altitude flight and zero-speed, low-altitude flight. The new JSF strike-fighter will have two versions, a conventional runway-based jet plane for the U.S. Air Force, and the other design, a short-takeoff-vertical-landing version to replace the Marine Harrier jump jet. Martin-Baker currently provides the U.S. Navy with the "Mk.14 Navy Air Common Crew Ejection Seat." Variants of the Martin-Baker Mk.16 are currently deployed in the U.S. Navy JPATS T-6A trainers and will soon replace seats in the NASA T-38 Talons. The Mk.16 also is found in the French Rafale and the Eurofighter. The K-36 ejection seat by Zvezda is the primary seat for all advanced Russian Air Force jets. The K-36 is used in the MiG-29 Fulcrum and variants of the Sukhoi SU-27 Flanker. The K-36 equips MiG-29 Fulcrums and SU-27 Flankers exported to various third world countries such as North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Vietnam, Cuba, Libya, India and China. Ironically, the Zvezda success with the Navy missile contract was part of a Moscow joint-venture with JSF prime contractor Boeing. According to Kommersant-DAILY, Boeing Moscow office manager Viktor Anoshkin stated that the Navy will buy 100 MA-31 missiles over the next five years at 20 missiles per year. Boeing's ACES 2 ejection seat division is one of the three
Re: [CTRL] NO INDEPENT PRESS IN AMERICA? John Swinton Quote
-Caveat Lector- (Source: Labor's Untold Story, by Richard O. Boyer and Herbert M. Morais, published by United Electrical, Radio Machine Workers of America, NY, 1955/1979.) One night, probably in 1880, John Swinton, then the preeminent New York journalist, was the guest of honour at a banquet given him by the leaders of his craft. Someone who knew neither the press nor Swinton offered a toast to the independent press. Swinton outraged his colleagues by replying: "There is no such thing, at this date of the world's history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone. "The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes." -Original Message- From: Nurev Ind Research [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 October 1999 02:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] NO INDEPENT PRESS IN AMERICA? John Swinton Quote -Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the Internet Conspiracy Community: From: Book Search Co-ordinator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: NO INDEPENT PRESS IN AMERICA? John Swinton Quote Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 10:34 PM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients:; undisclosed-recipients:; Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 12:13 PM Subject: ATTENTION MEDIA AND NON MAINSTREAM MEDIA - FIREBASE NETWORK ATTENTION MEDIA AND NON MAINSTREAM MEDIA - FIREBASE NETWORK WHY WE DON'T HAVE A FREE PRESS John Swinton (considered 'the dean of his profession' by his peers), Chief of Staff, New York Times when asked to give a toast at the New York Press Club in 1953 THIS IS WHAT HE SAID: "There is no such thing, at this date of the world's history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it.There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press. We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes." While the statement above is essentially true, it is a phony quote. Swinton was never chief of staff at the times, and he was a reporter at the turn of the century, or in the early part of this century. THIS IS AN URBAN LEGEND QUOTE. If you want to be credible, don't use it. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [CTRL] Missing Children
-Caveat Lector- Tonight - 18 Oct '99, UK TV 9pm GMT on 'Channel 4', 'Staying Lost' - new series. [Apparently] Portraying [some of] the realities of Britains 50,000 children who go missing from home each year. Tonight focusing on some 12/14 year olds. At 22:29 16/10/99 EDT, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- For those of you who wonder about the state of affairs in this country this should be telling information. For those who scoff at the idea of "satanic sacrifice" (though I am neither supporting nor denying its reality, at least not in this message) with children as victims, just look at the sheer numbers here. . . Statistics The U.S. Department of Justice in May 1990 released a study reporting that in 1988 there were as many as: 114,600 attempted abductions of children by nonfamily members 4,600 abductions by nonfamily members reported to police 300 abductions by nonfamily members where the children were gone for long periods of time or were murdered 354,000 children abducted by family members 450,700 children who ran away 127,100 children who were thrown away 438,200 children who were lost, injured, or otherwise missing *** ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] KGB's Italian Agents
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-10/17/279l-101799-idx.html KGB's Italian Agents May Have Hurt West By R. Jeffrey Smith Washington Post Foreign Service Sunday, October 17, 1999; Page A26 ROME-Soviet intelligence officers successfully recruited dozens of paid agents in Italy during the Cold War who may have compromised secrets of potential importance to NATO and the United States, according to documents leaked by a former KGB archivist that were released here last week. The alleged recipients of Moscow's paychecks included politicians, an Italian ambassador, Foreign Ministry employees, businessmen and journalists, the documents state. The most sensational allegation is that Armando Cossutta--the leader of the Party of Italian Communists, which is part of the government coalition--was an informant for Moscow. But so far, the revelations have provoked little public response besides weariness at the fresh political warfare the documents have ignited between Italian right and left. The two blocs fought bitterly during the Cold War and now want to influence history's judgment of Italy's manipulation by intelligence services from both sides of the Iron Curtain. The allegations have been received here as merely titillating details that "refresh the tints of a picture which basically we've known for a long time," as the Rome newspaper Il Messagero put it. Although parliamentary support is growing for a formal inquiry, the government has not acted. Few of the former Communists who now compose the leading bloc in Parliament appear eager to have a harsh new light trained on efforts by the Soviet Union to manipulate Italy or exploit its security lapses. The papers, which were handed over to the British government in 1992 by former KGB official Vasili Mitrokhin, were passed along to Rome in 1996. Franco Frattini, a member of the parliamentary opposition who heads the commission that released the documents, said government officials told him they have been conducting a quiet counterespionage investigation since then. But this claim was undercut when Prime Minister Massimo D'Alema, a former Communist, denied knowledge of the accusations, which mostly involve spying in the 1960s and '70s. "People assumed that things like this went on," Frattini said. "But . . . it's one thing to talk about them at the bar, it's another to have them written out." Justice Rosario Priore, a prominent investigating magistrate in Rome, is among the few independent officials who have urged prompt government action. He said the report showed "a strikingly large" KGB network in Italy, whose members committed "crimes that are punishable by life prison sentences." The backdrop for the disclosures is a long history of attempted bribery of influential Italian politicians by the United States and the Soviet Union. For years the CIA helped fund the rightist Christian Democratic Party that has ruled much of postwar Italy, in an effort to keep Western Europe's largest communist party from gaining power. The documents indicate that Moscow spent millions of dollars a year to apply pressure from the opposite direction, some of it handed over to a Communist Party official after dark in the garden of the Soviet Embassy in Rome. Cossutta, the party secretary at the time, has dismissed this claim as nothing new or surprising. But other details, unproven so far, provide entertaining reading. Two agents are described, for example, as leaving coded hash marks on a clock near the 16th-century Piazza del Popolo in central Rome and then greeting each other with this improbable exchange: "Excuse me, but didn't we see each other at the races in Montevideo in 1965?" "No, it was France in 1964." The Russians, like much of the Italian left, worried that fascists would regain power in Italy, so they sought to lay the groundwork for a landing by Soviet saboteurs. They established a ring of radio transmitters around Rome, stored weapons and other equipment, learned how to fake government stamps and bought uniforms of "military, railroad workers, forest rangers and police" as well as the "used civilian clothing of the local population." Fifteen Soviet residences were used as bases for eavesdropping on tens of thousands of coded cablegrams, the documents assert. Not all of the 261 people described in the report were paid. Moreover, KGB officers were notorious during the Cold War for exaggerating their contacts and access in reports. But some of those named could in the end have a tough time sloughing off the detailed accounts of cash and gifts of cars or vacations. The documents claim that reporters for several Italian newspapers and the Associated Press in Rome received money. They also suggest that Moscow planted a report in a leading Italian magazine, Panorama, that the CIA was behind the 1978 assassination of former prime minister Aldo Moro. The documents also cite for the first time a link between Moro's known killers,
[CTRL] Rise of Red Ghosts taunts Schröder
-Caveat Lector- Rise of Red Ghosts taunts Schröder By Tony Allen-Mills in Berlin 10-10-99 To the long list of potentially disruptive difficulties facing Gerhard Schröder, Germany's dangerously accident-prone chancellor, could last week be added a curvaceous blonde cabaret singer with a voice like a chainsaw and an unusual taste for cheerful German socialist anthems such as Fritz the Tractor Driver and My Mother is an Office Manager. As Schröder braced himself for yet another election upset in today's regional polls in Berlin, audiences in the capital were flocking to Cornelia Schirmer's spirited rendering of the ideological hits from the long-defunct charts of formerly communist East Germany. Ten years after the fall of the Wall, a wave of Ossi (eastern) nostalgia is finding a new political expression that threatens to cause serious embarrassment for Schröder's attempts to join Tony Blair in the so-called new middle of European politics. After an embarrassing sequence of regional election defeats and an outbreak of brutal infighting in his Social Democratic party (SPD), Schröder is battling this weekend to avert humiliation in a small but symbolic fight for control of the newly restored German capital. The chancellor's main worry is not his traditional right-wing rival, the Christian Democratic Union - a substantial CDU victory in Berlin is regarded as a foregone conclusion. The real threat comes from a ghost. From the ashes of East German communism, an old party with new ideas is beginning to rise to heights of influence and respectability that few could have imagined when the late Erich Honecker's regime collapsed in ignominy in 1989. The reconstructed communist leaders of eastern Germany's Party of Democratic Socialism (PDS) may tonight find themselves in the extraordinary position of being more popular in Berlin than Schröder' s SPD. Only a few opinion-poll percentage points separate the two parties in the battle for second place behind the CDU, and one private poll last week put the PDS narrowly ahead with more than 20% of the vote. "I don't know if it can happen," said Rainer Oschmann, a PDS spokesman. "But if it does, it will be an absolute sensation." The PDS owes its remarkable rise to a combination of factors from the SPD's collapsing political credibility to the lingering Ossi phenomenon dubbed Ostalgie - a spreading nostalgia for a distinctive east German identity that was crushed by the arrival of the all-conquering west German D-mark. After a decade of exposure to the grimmer realities of the capitalist condition-notably job losses, factory closures and the arrival of new bosses from the west-many easterners have settled on the PDS as the only party uncontaminated by supercilious western brutalism. "We are perceived, rightly or wrongly, as the only authentic East German party voice," said Oschmann. Despite its roots in a disgraced regime that relied heavily on the secret policemen of the Stasi, the PDS has been cementing a powerful base this year on the left of the German establishment. Shunned by most western voters, the party has none the less joined a government coalition in the eastern state of Mecklenburg -West Pomerania. It beat the SPD into third place in Thuringia and Saxony, and now claims the support of more than 40% of voters in eastern Berlin. Last week the PDS attracted its first defector from the SPD' s parliamentary ranks, and officials are gleefully promoting the party as the logical home for disgruntled supporters of Oskar Lafontaine, the leftist former finance minister whose resignation from the government - and subsequent rubbishing of Schröder in a book to be published this week - have divided the SPD. In excerpts from the book 'The Heart Beats on the Left', Lafontaine argued last week that the PDS would make a logical coalition partner for the SPD in a future government. Delighted by this, PDS officials promptly invited Lafontaine to join their ranks. The arrival on the German scene of a newly confident and successful left-wing force rooted in the east but with ambitions to spread to the west further deepens Schröder' s dilemma as he attempts to force through a £10 billion package of spending cuts to stabilise the German economy. Accused by SPD stalwarts of ditching traditional social values to appease financial markets, the chancellor faces the daunting challenge of avoiding a party split while implementing a divisive austerity programme that will cut jobless benefits and restrict pensions. Rising from his sick bed last week, the flu-stricken chancellor showed no sign of retreat as he harangued a metalworkers' union congress in Hamburg. Although his performance won some favourable media reviews, it is at the ballot box that Schröder faces his sternest test. A poor performance in Berlin today may convince the SPD' s party managers that their chancellor is a liability. There are already signs that Rudolf Scharping, the SPD defence minister, is
Re: [CTRL] Underground base by Norio Hayakawa
-Caveat Lector- If this were true, the truckers would probably have been sworn to secrecy. It would probably be easy for the FEDs to identify the trucker involved, who talked. They quite likely would be in violation of one or more federal laws. This makes the information highly suspect as more disinformation. At 01:37 AM 10/19/99 +1300, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- http://members.aol.com/phikent/trucker.txt by researcher, Norio Hayakawa. A week ago I was having breakfast at SAPP Brothers truck stop just south of Omaha. I had a UFO magazine with me when this trucker seated across from me in the non-smoking section asked why I was interested in UFO's. I told the trucker about my experiences, when I was finished the trucker toldme a story that made the hair stand up on the back of my neck... Don, This report is only seven days old, feel free to share with Vince DiPietro, Dr. Brandenberg and serious friends. A week ago I was having breakfast at SAPP Brothers truck stop just south of Omaha. I had a UFO magazine with me when this trucker seated across from me in the non-smoking section asked why I was interested in UFO's. I told the trucker about my experiences, when I was finished the trucker toldme a story that made the hair stand up on the back of my neck...A few weeks ago she and her husband were solicited to pick up a load from a military base in Arizona ( they weren't told where but were given a map by the dispatcher) They pulled into the base gate and uniformed guards hooked up the trailer which was "refrigerated". They were instructed to proceed thru Utah, stop into Wright Patterson in Ohio then go on to gues where..Wytheville, Virginia. Along the way they were instructed to "bypass" any weigh stations and to show the contents of an envelope to any law enforcement agency which might stop them. They bypassed a weigh ststion just east of Salt Lake City Utah when they were pulled over within five minutes by the highway patrol. Within two minutes of their truck being pulled over four unmarked "U.S. InterAgency" cars pulled up on the shoulder of the road and Two Black Heilocopters landed in a small field off the highway. One man dressed in as black suit came over to the highway patrolman with some identification then went over to the truckers cab and asked for the contents of the envelope which were shown to the officer. The Utah Patrolman was a bit shaken and told them in a pretty nervous fashion to get on their way. The copters took off immediately after the guy in the black suit boarded and the cars sped away...they were escorted by the same cars to a grassy road just west of a very large hill just a couple of miles from Wytheville, Viginia. There were trees close on both sides and from the secondary highway you could look right at the grassy area and not know it was a road. The trucker stated that they drove for twenty minutes at about 5 m.p.h. to huge doors imbedded in the side of a hill. They went down a gradual slope on concrete once inside. They said it looked like the inside of a modern office building, cameras all around, guards in black uniforms, no badges, no patches. One guard got inside the cab with them which the trailer was unhooked. They were then shown the way out through a very long tunnel, at least a mile or two long. They came out right next to a via duct, some chain link fences along an interstate route near Wytheville. The truckers said they had been though that area mnany times before but never saw this exit. The guard closed the normal looking serrvice gate after they passed through, got into a black humvee and drove back down the highway some distance behind them then they couldn't see him anymore. The area they were in was a remote wooded and hilly area then when they came out it was almost flat except for where the tunnel was coming out of the hill.end of transcript...This was related to me by a trucker whose partner been instructed to stay with the truck. They were taking another trailer from Ohio back to a base near Las Vegas, Nevada. Wonder where that could be...Now here is the best part on the side of thre trialer was a small 12" rectangular logo which read "EG G". Jack Kasher is aware of this story. Please be careful who you share this with as I promised the trucker anonimnity and gave them my card. If they have anymore weird loads they said they would fax me a note from a truck stop where they might spend a night or two. Should I hear from them when they are coming your way perhaps you could round up some serious investigative type people you know well and look into it ? Let me know what you want to do with this information "Per Ardua Ad Astra Ole Buddy"..Cordially- Harry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths,
[CTRL] Web of Lies
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From AntiWar.CoM
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html
{{Begin}}
BEHIND THE HEADLINES
by Justin Raimondo
October 18, 1999
WEB OF LIES: WILL WE EVER KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE CHINESE EMBASSY BOMBING?
The web of lies woven by this Administration to cover up its crimes in the
Balkans is so thick and crawling with vermin that it is virtually certain we
won't know the unvarnished truth for at least the next fifty years, if then.
Even when the truth, in some form, does begin to leak out, as in the case of
the London Observer's revelation that the bombing of the Chinese embassy in
Belgrade was deliberate, there is still more than enough reason to suspect that
we are being fed yet more lies by master spinmeisters.
OUR BRAIN-DEAD PUNDITOCRACY
While it is in somewhat dubious taste to say, "I told you so," in this case the
temptation to do so is irresistible. It is especially tempting in view of the
fact that no one, absolutely none of the "mainstream" commentators of the sort
who grace This Week with Cokie and Sam or Meet the Press or even the sort who
merit a coveted link on the anti-Establishment Drudge Report questioned
NATO's non-explanation that "it was all a mistake." Here is a punditocracy so
brain-dead, and so co-opted, that their suspicions were not even mildly aroused
by Secretary of Defense William Cohen's ludicrously lame excuse that "one of
our planes attacked the wrong target because the bombing instructions were
based on an outdated map."
PRAETORIANS OF POWER
And it wasn't just the TV talking heads who missed the story, but the alleged
journalists who are presumably peddling more than just their opinions. As news
of the bombing broke in early May, I cannot recall a single news story in
English that did not assume the truth of NATO-crats' explanation. The
Observer's revelations dramatically illustrate the sad state of the rest of the
English-speaking and especially the American media. Once purporting to be the
guardians of the public interest and relentless seekers after truth, the Fourth
Estate has long since dropped that pretense and degenerated into the Praetorian
Guard of whatever wing of the War Party happens to occupy the White House.
THIS IS A TEST
This was a real test of the independence and integrity of our vainglorious
media, and virtually everyone failed. I hasten to point out, however, that
Antiwar.com passed the test with flying colors. We featured a number of news
stories and commentaries, originating for the most part outside the West, that
treated NATO's explanation for the bombing with considerable skepticism. In my
column, then called "Wartime Diary," for May 10 [1999], I wrote:
GIVE ME A BREAK
"Please do not anyone tell me that the same people who 'mistakenly' bombed a
hospital, several busloads of civilians, a market, and innumerable residences
[in the past few weeks] have made another 'mistake.' Everybody knows that the
psychological terrorism practiced on the brave Serbian people has been a
deliberate tactic in the war on Yugoslavia. But this latest 'error' is so
fraught with political implications and consequences, both abroad and right
here at home in the United States, that it cannot have been anything but
deliberate. Exile me to the fever-swamps for daring to say it, denounce me as a
'conspiracy theorist,' but how can any objective observer possibly swallow
NATO's story?"
A WAKING NIGHTMARE
Having once succumbed to the temptation of self-quotation, it is not hard to
fall into the habit. However, I will risk what could turn out to be a
dangerously self-indulgent and even addictive course in order to make my point
about the nature and meaning of the interplay between the media and the State,
a relationship that has become virtually symbiotic. At any rate, the next day
"Wartime Diary" was a daily column I really got myself worked up:
"This war is rapidly taking on the qualities of a surrealistic nightmare, a
collective hallucination of horror from which we are all trying in vain to
awaken. That the U.S. government is now attributing the bombing of the Chinese
embassy in Belgrade to an outdated map is the kind of bizarre touch that not
even Kafka could have come up with."
THE NIGHTMARE CONTINUES
We have yet to awaken: the nightmare continues. The collective hallucination
cast by the American media over its narcotized audience has yet to be
dispelled, even with the Observer's revelations. To begin with, the news has
yet to get out there: 24 hours after the story was published, the big American
networks had not even reported it. The sole mention of it was in a question put
to White House strategist John Podesta by Cokie Roberts, in which she asked him
to comment on the allegations. It was a priceless moment in the history of
American television: as George Will and Sam Donaldson averted their eyes from
the embarrassing scene and stared hard at the table, Podesta looked utterly
stunned. He gazed uncomprehendingly at Cokie, his eyes wide
Re: [CTRL] A defense of Sitchin
-Caveat Lector- English-Sumerian dictionary: http://home.earthlink.net/~duranki/index1.html#dict Lexicon of Sumerian logograms: http://www.sumerian.org/sumerlex.htm -Original Message- From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 6:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] A defense of Sitchin snip Last I heard, there were HUNDREDS of people who can decipher Sumerian about as well as scholars can read Hebrew today, plus there are Sumerian dictionaries all over the place (if you know where to look in this relatively recondite field) if anyone wants a more "hands on" approach to grasping the language in the vast number of texts already translated ... Sitchin is unduly playing up the "mystique" of this ancient language. snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Fwd) NCPA Policy Digest 10-18-99
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- National Center For Policy Analysis DAILY POLICY DIGEST Monday, October 18, 1999 PointCast can automatically load NCPA's Policy Digest summaries on your desktop for easy reading. For information go to http://www.ncpa.org/pointcast.html IN TODAY'S DIGEST o IT IS NO COINCIDENCE CRIME IS DOWN AND PUNISHMENT UP in the U.S., says a new studyNCPA o THE INCOME TAX BURDEN HAS FALLEN FOR MOST TAX FILERS, according to new data, with the bottom 50 percent paying just 4.3 percent of the totalNCPA o VIOLENT CRIME IS AT ITS LOWEST LEVEL IN 32 YEARS, reports the F.B.I., after declining seven years in a rowUSA TODAY/NEW YORK TIMES o ONLY ONE-THIRD OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ARE VETERANS, compared to two-thirds during the Vietnam War eraWALL STREET JOURNAL o A RACIAL GAP IN MIDDLE CLASS STUDENTS' PERFORMANCE contributes to the disparity in high achievers, says a new reportWASHINGTON TIMES o THE BLACK YOUTH SUICIDE RATE HAS MORE THAN DOUBLED since 1980, says the U.S. Surgeon GeneralNEW YORK TIMES o A RECORD 14.9 MILLION AMERICANS WILL ATTEND COLLEGE this year, including two-thirds of high school graduatesSCRIPPS HOWARD NEW SERVICE/WASHINGTON TIMES IN TODAY'S NEWS PUNISHMENT UP, CRIME DOWN IN AMERICA Serious crime in the United States fell from 1997 to 1998 -- whether measured as the rate of crimes per capita or in absolute terms, according to "Crime and Punishment in America: 1999," a new report from the National Center for Policy Analysis. According to the report by Morgan O. Reynolds, an economist and senior fellow at the NCPA: o The overall rate of serious crime fell to a 25-year low (see Figure http://www.ncpa.org/studies/s229/s229fl.gif ). o The murder rate dropped by 8 percent from 1997 and finally slumped to the rates of the late 1960s, even falling below the average murder rate during this entire century. o The rates for rape and aggravated assault fell by 5 percent each, for robbery by 11 percent and for burglary by 7 percent. o The actual number of murders reported in 1998 was the lowest in more than two decades. Not by coincidence, the likelihood that a criminal will be punished for a serious crime and the amount of time a criminal is likely to spend in prison are higher today than they have been since the 1970s. In 1997, the latest year for which prison data are available, the probability of going to prison for murder rose 13 percent from 1996, for rape 1 percent, for robbery 7 percent and for aggravated assault 11 percent; the probability of going to prison for burglary remained the same. The best overall measure of the potential cost to a criminal of committing crimes is "expected punishment." Roughly speaking, expected punishment is the number of days in prison a typical criminal can expect to serve per crime, as determined by the probabilities of being apprehended, prosecuted, convicted and going to prison, and the median months served for each crime. In 1997 expected punishment continued to increase, rising 20 percent for aggravated assault, 13 percent each for murder and robbery and negligible amounts for rape and burglary compared to 1996. Source: Morgan O. Reynolds, "Crime and Punishment in America: 1999," NCPA Policy Report No. 229, October 1999, National Center for Policy Analysis, 12655 N. Central Expwy., Suite 720, Dallas, Texas 75243, (972) 386-6272. For text http://www.ncpa.org/studies/s229/s229.html For more on Crime and Punishment in America http://www.ncpa.org/pi/crime/crime33.html#A MOST INCOME TAXES PAID BY HIGH INCOME EARNERS The Internal Revenue Service recently released new data on the shares of total federal income taxes paid. Once again, the data show an increase in the share of taxes paid by those with high incomes. o In 1997, the top 1 percent of taxpayers, those with adjusted gross incomes above $250,000, paid 33.2 of all federal income taxes (see figure http://www.ncpa.org/pd/gif/pd101899.gif ). o The top 5 percent, with incomes above $108,000, paid a majority of all income taxes: 51.9 percent. o The data further show that the top 10 percent of taxpayers, those with incomes above $79,000, paid 63 of income taxes; and the top 25 percent, with incomes above $48,000, paid 82 percent. o The top 50 percent of taxpayers, having incomes above $24,000, paid 95.7 percent, meaning that the bottom 50 percent paid just 4.3 percent. The 1997 data simply continue a trend that has been going on for a long time. The share of income taxes paid by the top 1 percent of taxpayers has risen about 1 percent per year for many years. In fact, they have virtually doubled their share of taxes paid since 1981, when they paid 17.6
[CTRL] [prj] Re: OJ Simpsons Florida COCAINE connection!
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Lloyd Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: j [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: New Paradigms Discussion Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [prj] Re: OJ Simpsons Florida COCAINE connection! Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 4:24 AM Free Rare/Out-of-Print Book Searches - Ruling Class/Conspiracy Experts: E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** END From: j [EMAIL PROTECTED] If he was STILL 'out looking for the killer of Nicole', this would not have happened or maybe, if he was out on the golf course? Lloyd Responds: You are missing the point! There was cocaine in Nicole's apartment the night she was murdered. There is evidence that both OJ and Nicole were involved in cocaine for a long timenow we have more evidence that people very close to OJ are involved in cocaine big time. This shows how fraudulent the OJ prosecution waswhy didn't they dig deep into this aspect of the case? Murders and drugs are common occurences and should have been considered, esp. when the time line allowing OJ to commit the crime didn't add-up. Another hint: POLICE are often hip deep in the cocaine trade! We have Furman and van Atter obviously lying about why the entered OJ's estate, carrying blood to the site, leaving the site samples on a table over-night, and on and on. *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** A Growing Selection of A-albionic's Books Can Be Browsed and Purchased Conveniently in the Shopping Cart at http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html END Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] New Evidence In Lady Di Death
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nitronews.com/specials.html DIANA'S MYSTERY CHASERS EXPOSED NITRO NEWS WORLD EXCLUSIVE A video tape has surfaced that adds a disturbing new twist to the Princess Diana tragedy, Nitro News can exclusively reveal. The man who obtained the footage, allegedly shot on the night Diana died, spoke with Editor Charles MacLaurin late last week: "I have a digital imaging process which enables me to image video-to-photo at unprecedented resolutions. "Although I had this technology years ago, I recently developed it to such a degree that I can retrieve what was previously impossible in my estimation - by anyone else on the planet. "A few months after Di's death, [I received] a video tape which shows [two vehicles] quickly leaving the hotel in Paris." The hi-tech talent, who we call "Dominic," re-imaged the shock footage, and captured crucial information about the drivers and their license plates. "Despite the resulting loss in quality, I can determine that there are two autos involved - one a white Fiat (perhaps another make such as Opel) and the other a golden/silver sport utility vehicle (a type which resembles a Honda CRV). Both vehicles left in pursuit, with the white car [in front]. "The license plate of the sport utility is quite evident upon magnification. [And] there is a tremendous amount of detail on the white car and the driver which I can pick out using traditional Photoshop techniques. "Both vehicles are initially parked, one in front of the other. The white car has four doors, and a unique sticker on the back window. The driver appears to be extremely slight in build, and looks to be holding a rather large cellular phone/2-way radio." With new proof of a Diana conspiracy in hand, Dominic called the Mirror newspaper in London, one of Britain's top tabloids: "The news reporter did not want to have anything to do with my call. He would not give me his name, and he said the investigation was over. Given the magnitude of this information, I was astonished that he seemed generally afraid..." But when Nitro News spoke with Mirror Editor Piers Morgan yesterday, it was a different story: "No, we are still very interested in anything to do with the Diana accident. I don't believe anyone on the Mirror would reject any new insight or material to do with the crash, and nor would I wish them to do so." After he failed to interest the "big boys", we asked Dominic to provide a photograph of one of the mystery vehicles for publication in Nitro News. In return, he requested "anonymity," which we have honored by not publishing his name, location or where he got the tape. But this weekend, our e-mails to him, which indicated we would be publishing this story and would appreciate photographic evidence, bounced back. Theorizing that the Ritz tape was shot 200 feet away from the two cars in poor light, we asked a CNN production employee if technology exists to magnify drivers and license plates under those conditions. He said the news channel does use "Grass Vally 1000" equipment, but that the end result is always too unclear and "pixely." He joked: "We're not the CIA, contrary to popular belief." Until he releases the photographs, it's unknown whether Dominic has developed technology beyond the capabilities of CNN. But if he has, he may hold the key to unlocking the disturbing truth behind Princess Diana's tragic death. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: Danite Irish]
-Caveat Lector- I'm doubtful that the Indus Valley civilization had any signficant IE-speaking component, let alone that it supplied Sumerian with so many loanwords. However, J.P. Mallory, *In Search of the Indo-Europeans*, suggests a solution: in examining the origins of the Mitanni, who were *East* IE (Proto-Indic) in origin but who somehow landed in the middle of *West* IE speakers (Armenians, Hittites) in Anatolia, he proposes, assuming an IE "homeland" in the region of the Caspian Sea, that the Proto-Indic speakers (pre-Vedic) moved directly south into modern Iran. The river structure of eastern Iran is a much better match for the Sarasvati basin in which the *Mahabharata* takes place than is the traditional location in the Indus Valley. Mallory argues that a later movement of Proto-Iranians into this territory forced the Proto-Indics to split, with the larger group moving through modern Afghanistan into the subcontinent, while a smaller rump, isolated from the main body by the Iranians, turned west into Anatolia, becoming the Mitanni. It is entirely possible, even likely, given this assumption, that the *Mitanni* or closely-related peoples would have traded with the Sumerians and even infiltrated into their territory. Thus Proto-Indic words used in commerce by the Sumerians could easily have been the result of contact between the Sumerians and this isolated Proto-Indic speaking community in Anatolia. As to where the Indus Valley civilization came from, without a better understanding of the culture, anything anyone says can only be suggestive. My own intuitive response is that they were the easternmost fringe of the Neolithic culture horizon which we know best from Southeastern Europe and Anatolia--"Old Europe", to use Marija Gimbutas's term. But I have no hard evidence for that belief. -Original Message- From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 6:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: Danite Irish] -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-10-15 12:38:00 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The most intriguing proposal I've seen is that they were colonists from the Indus Valley (Mohenjo-Daro) civilization--there is definite evidence of trade contact, and it's not too much of a stretch to visualize an expedition traveling along the coast of the Indian Ocean and Persian Gulf from India to Mesopotamia. A possibility, yes -- but then the question is, Whence the INDUS culture? LOL You might enjoy reading the following: Subject: Sumer Indus Valley Relations From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 09:21:46 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sumer -Indus Valley Civilization relations revealed through Sumerian language and contemporary literature of both countries snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CONSPIRACY WRITER'S WEB BUSINESS, NEWSLETTER ARE GROWING CONCERNS (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- The Palm Beach Post October 11, 1999, Monday, FINAL EDITION CONSPIRACY WRITER'S WEB BUSINESS, NEWSLETTER ARE GROWING CONCERNS When conservative writer Christopher Ruddy isn't making his living by beating up Bill Clinton, he likes to hit the beach. That's why Ruddy - the author of books and articles promulgating murder theories in the suicide of White House Deputy Legal Counsel Vincent Foster and the death of U.S. Commerce Secretary Ron Brown in an airplane crash - decided to settle in West Palm Beach. Last fall, the man described as "crazy, I think," in court documents by former Clinton aide George Stephanopoulos, opened a two-room office in the Harvey Building in downtown West Palm Beach as the headquarters of his newsletter, Internet Vortex, and his Web site, Newsmax.com, for Clinton haters. Ken Williams, Ruddy's first employee, said there were many times when he would see a beach towel and sandals at his boss' desk because Ruddy had returned from a swim in the ocean. Little time for that now. Business has been so brisk that Ruddy, a favorite of conservative financier and newspaper publisher Richard Mellon Scaife of Pittsburgh, went from one employee to a dozen. He recently moved to a larger office on Palm Beach Lakes Boulevard, and now is looking for more space, Williams said. Ruddy was in New York and did not return calls. The monthly newsletter, which costs $ 39 a year, has 16,000 subscribers and the Internet site has more than 1 million unique users a month, Williams said. The Web site has little advertising. The company makes most of its money from an online store of mostly anti-Clinton books, pamplets, audiotapes and videotapes - much of it recycled from Ruddy's interviews. The merchandise has been so popular that Newsmax is planning to mail its first holiday catalog. The offerings include such books as Clinton Confidential, Betrayal: How the Clinton Administration Undermined American Security, and The Secret Life of Bill Clinton. Newsmax's latest release is a two-volume audiotape set: More Than Sex: The Secrets of Bill and Hillary Clinton Revealed. The company recently promoted it in a full page advertisement in The New York Times. The $ 19.95 tape of Ruddy interviewing an Arkansas state trooper once assigned to guard then-Gov. Clinton promises to reveal the truth of why Clinton remains chubby despite supposedly jogging all the time and asserts the book Primary Colors is all true. Still, not everything for sale from Ruddy pillories and vilifies Clinton. There's also a line of Grundig radios, such as the "Yacht Boy 400 PE," for $199.95, and language books such as Berlitz Think Talk for $ 174.95. Also available: audiotapes of the world's greatest composers, thinkers and investors. "The world's 100 greatest composers are not part of the vast right-wing conspiracy, I assure you," Williams said. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] First Son : George W. Bush and the Bush Family Dynasty
-Caveat Lector- from: Amazon.com - First Son : George W. Bush and the Bush Family Dynasty by Bill Minutaglio List Price: $25.00 Our Price: $15.00 You Save: $10.00 (40%) Availability: Usually ships within 24 hours. Click for larger picture Hardcover - 320 pages 1 Ed edition (October 1999) Times Books; ISBN: 0812931394 Other Editions: Audio Cassette (Abridged), Audio CD (Abridged) Amazon.com Sales Rank: 207 Be the first person to review this book! Write an online review and share your thoughts with other readers! Customers who bought this book also bought: Mandela : The Authorized Biography; Anthony Sampson Dutch : A Memoir of Ronald Reagan; Edmund Morris Gore : A Political Life; Bob Zelnick All The Best, George Bush: My Life and Other Writings; George Bush Click here for more suggestions... Our auction zShops sellers recommend: 1984 Year Set-UNC (Current bid: $4.95) George Bush SIGNED new novel, "All the Best, George Bush" (Current bid: $61.00) "Bush On Every Tongue" 1992 Candy Campaign Item (Price: $4.25) Reviews Amazon.com The first of several Y2K biographies on Texas gover nor George W. Bush offers an in-depth look at both the Republican presidential candidate and his political family: Bill Minutaglio interviewed more than 300 people for First Son, including Bush and many members of his inner circle. The book focuses on the life of "Dubya" (the nickname used by the press and others to distinguish him from his father) and includes a combination of original material and information that has been reported elsewhere. It is neither pro- nor anti-Bush, simply reportorial and largely nonjudgmental. Readers won't find an answer to one of the season's most burning questions: Has Bush ever used illegal drugs? In a preface, Minutaglio piously says he won't stoop to such low levels. Yet one gets the sense that he won't go there because he doesn't have any hard evidence, as stories of Bush's heavy drinking are related without apparent reservation. Minutaglio, a writer for The Dallas Morning News, spends most of his time describing Bush's amazing and unexpected rise to fame. Dubya's own family, for instance, thought that younger brother Jeb would be the first to win an important public office. Yet Dubya exploited his family ties and personal charisma to have a successful business career in the 1980s and then beat a popular incumbent in 1994 to become Texas governor. (Jeb became governor of Florida in 1998, while his brother won a second term in Austin.) Minutaglio's narrative goes light on Bush's gubernatorial record and ends before his formal entry into the presidential race in 1999. Readers hungry for an overview of the man who would be president, however, could do much worse than start by looking here. --John J. Miller From Booklist , September 15, 1999 "Dubya," as commentators have dubbed him, here gets the first biographical exam of his 53-year-long life. From hundreds of interviews, though not with George W. himself, Minutaglio narrates a coherent story of what makes the Republican presidential contender tick. His mainspring is his dad, the ex-prez. And Bush fils discovered that the Bush name could be a dubious blessing. Although George W. grew up in Texas, his political opponents pounded him, like they did his father, as an effete Yankee outsider. Not without reason, as he spent years in elite New England schools. The way Minutaglio puts together the schooling years in the 1960s and 1970s well illustrates the hell-raising habits the mature Bush says he has left behind. The book reveals nothing unusual, however,
Re: [CTRL] A defense of Sitchin
-Caveat Lector- Hmmm...perhaps the Net IS the Akashic Record, incarnated or inelectronated or whatever... -Original Message- From: earthman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 3:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] A defense of Sitchin -Caveat Lector- snip Treat the net as the Akashic records... snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 10/18/99
-Caveat Lector- from; http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Today's Lesson from Money Meltdown a screenplay by J. Orlin Grabbe FADE IN: BLACK SCREEN Explosive SOUND of a WASHING MACHINE operating out of control. Then a STOCK TICKER begins to churn across an otherwise BLACK SCREEN. As the ticker loops itself into a large DOLLAR SIGN, the hideous industrial noise gradually begins to SING with the voice of a thousand electrons finding mechanical harmony. HANDS and forearms emerge from the dollar sign, stretching out toward the audience, pleading with them to accept the proffered riches: DIAMONDS in the left hand, sprinkled GOLD DUST in the right. As the MUSICAL ECSTACY rises to an unbearable crescendo ANNOUNCER(V.O.) Welcome to todays episode of Investing for the Long Run . . . INT./DAY. TELEVISION STUDIO WITH LIVE AUDIENCE. ANNOUNCER(V.O.) . . . with your hostess Pamela Rush! Wild applause for PAMELA RUSH, a young lady in her late 20s who marches on stage with the demeanor of an aerobics instructor, but who graciously acknowledges the adoration, knowing that each and every member of her audience owes her so much. PAMELA RUSH Well its 3 p.m. on Wall Street, and I regret to inform you that the market is down a little today. Audience GROANS. PAMELA RUSH (voice rising) But what do we say when stocks go down? (in unison with the audience) Prices will fluctuate! Prices will fluctuate! (taking total charge of her audience/exercise class) And what do we say when stocks go up? PAMELA RUSH (in unison with the audience) Buy and hold! Buy and hold! Buy and hold! Buy and hold! . . . This is Investing for the Long Run, the program that teaches you, you dont need to be a genius to make money in the stock market. You dont need an education. You dont need to do research. You dont need luck. You just . . . (in unison with the audience) . . . buy and hold! Buy and hold! Buy and hold! And now, lets see what todays word is from our own Gnome of Zurich! FACE OF GNOME OF ZURICH. The GNOME OF ZURICH is a Dr. Spockish-looking man in his 40s, with craggy face and somewhat pointed ears. GNOME OF ZURICH Thank you, Pamela. Today the government of Germany announced the Bundesbank will be selling off part of its gold hoard to help bring the government deficit down to three percent as required by the Maastricht Treaty. PAMELA RUSH Yes? (Expectantly. Then crossly as Gnome of Zurich remains silent.) Well? Is that good or bad? (Audience is deathly silent.) GNOME OF ZURICH Well, Pamela, its obviously good. Itll help drive down the price of gold, and punish all those commodity-bugs who dont own any stock. PAMELA RUSH Oh! (Applauding. Turns to audience who applaud with her. Then . . .) Equity is king! Equity is king! Equity is king! . . . GNOME OF ZURICH We also have a report of an audience member who has a confession to make! PAMELA and GNOME look out to the audience as an usher sends the PENITENT up the aisle to the stage. The PENITENT looks to be a housewife in her 30s who is pleased at the attention, but a little nervous. PENITENT (holding hands with Pamela Rush) Pamela, I just want to say, I love your show so much. I watch it all the time. PAMELA RUSH Thank you. What is your name? PENITENT Angel. PAMELA RUSH Well, Angel, before we hear your confession, why dont you tell us about some of the stocks you own. PENITENT Well, thats just it. I dont own any stocks. PAMELA RUSH (horrified, to audience) This woman doesnt own any stocks! PENITENT You see, my husband doesnt actually believe in them. PAMELA RUSH Hes not a member of some right-wing militia is he? PENITENT No, hes a Methodist. He just doesnt think stocks are a good investment right now. PAMELA RUSH Has your husband sought counseling? You know, to work through these psychological problems he has? PULL BACK TO REVEAL: SMALL TV SCREEN SHOWING THE PAMELA RUSH SHOW. CUT TO: FACE OF RAÚL ABREGO. RAÚL ABREGO Pendeja. = Stock Markets Happy Anniversary! Gala to celebrate 12th anniversary of 1987 crash. Markets around the world are preparing for a storm of volatility this week after being buffeted on Friday as concerns about interest rate rises and the valuation of equities scared US investors. Global markets will open in the shadow of a 5.92 per cent fall last week in the Dow Jones Industrial Average - the biggest weekly decline for the Dow since October 1989 - and against a backdrop of continued strength of the yen against the US dollar. In a coincidence that could further unsettle investors, tomorrow is the 12th anniversary of the stock market crash of 1987. Analysts warned yesterday there would be little in US economic data to be released this week to clarify the mixed picture of US economic performance or settle whether the Federal Reserve will have to raise interest rates at its meeting next month. Friday's 266.9 point fall in the Dow was prompted partly by
Re: [CTRL] Sitchin's Sumerian Astronomy (origins)
-Caveat Lector- See Micrea Eliade, *Shamanism*, for some mindblowing stuff on the similarity of shamanic beliefs and practices in virtually all "native" cultures. Also, what you're suggesting here looks like the thesis of Julian Jaynes' *The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind*. If you can excuse a reductio ad absurdum, Jaynes argues that the "gods" of peoples like the Sumerians were in fact the rational side of their minds trying to break through. Neal Stephenson, in *Snow Crash*, proposes that the pre-consciousness Sumerians were like (well this is my metaphor, not his) an old pre-Macintosh Apple computer, with no hard drive and any program you wanted to run on floppy disk. The *me* so jealously guarded by the gods were programs which you downloaded from the temple whenever you wanted to perform a particular task. Stephenson suggests that Enki was in fact the first fully-conscious human being... Thus, in a very real sense, we created our selves by sacrificing ourselves: "Three days I hung upon the Tree,/Myself a sacrifice to myself", as the Old Norse *Havamal* has Odinn say of his (probably shamanic) ordeal to learn the secret of the runes. Eden/Dilmun was Paradise precisely because we were--as far as our experience went--incapable of doing anything for ourselves and had to rely on Someone Else (the other hemisphere of our brains) to tell us what to do. Becoming fully conscious, with the ability to discern right and wrong, good and evil, automatically meant expulsion from Eden, from the Golden Age, because we had begun to integrate the "gods" into our everyday thought processes. That's a very rough summing up of some extremely difficult material, but hopefully it will make some sort of contribution to the discussion (which, BTW, is one of the most important threads, IMHO, that I have seen raised on CTRL). -Original Message- From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Sitchin's "Sumerian Astronomy" (origins) -Caveat Lector- snip One is that these "beings from Beyond" originated in human SUBJECTIVE experience, in "shamanic" circumstances like the Australian aboriginal Dreamtime, wherein early man's embryonic intellectual capacities --abstract IDEAS, for example-- could manifest to him in a SYMBOLIC form, semi-independent of the perceiver's ego because from, in effect, his "higher" self, not yet realized or converted into controllable thought patterns, i.e., "reduced" to abstraction. The use of psychedelics might account in part for this ... A shaman-leader who was "possessed" by one of these "entities" arising from his own unconscious mind, who behaved as an "oracle" or "medium" of such a sub-personality, would naturally cause others more ordinary to believe in the OBJECTIVE PHYSICAL existence of such entities, "somewhere," at "some time," in some World BEYOND ... I'd bet good money that the kind of "tribal" communities evident everywhere in non- urbanized societies outside the "mainstream" leading to "Civilization," with their "totemic" systems and with "shamans" as "priests," are what preceded the earliest known form of social organization in Egypt and in Sumer -- a loose-knit collection of urban centers, each of them devoted to a different deity, the pattern of the whole --the relationships between them-- apparently modelled after some "cosmological" order -- simply a more sophisticated evolution of the older totemic clan-and-phratry system. snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] tanks
-Caveat Lector- Judging by what the nation's "civilian" police forces have taken to using as part of their Swatification, the most effective armored vehicle for urban use is some version of the old Armored Personnel Carrier. The Brits used essentially that in Northern Ireland. Other possibilities would be the Russian BMP and the vehicle the South Africans created (the name escapes me). I'm not sure whether the Bradley Fighting Vehicle would do well in an urban environment, but that's one possibility. And, yes, the Army Transportation Corps does have its own railcars--also its own ships. -Original Message- From: Mark McHugh [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 2:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] tanks snip I saw a B.N. RR. sign. Burlington Northern? I also saw what appears to be a US Interstate 5 sign in one of the pictures. Does I-5 extend up into Canada? Wouldn't they change the signs at the borders? I remember them changing at the NY-Québec border for I-87. At this point I wouldn't worry about it. I remember railloading our unit's tanks and trucks at a railhead on Ft.Polk. We had to ship our vehicles and conexes to Yermo, California in the Mojave Desert for exercises at Ft.Irwin. It's when they start offloading tanks at civilian and commercial railheads that I'd become curious. IMO, I wouldn't expect tanks for civilian pacification, except for the shock factor. I'm not sure we have what would be a good urban assault vehicle. Hummers aren't armored enough. I guess we can buy from the Brits. They know what works in Derry and Belfast. As an aside, I've always been curious as to why we did our own railloading. I know how sensitive the railroad unions are about their trains. I wonder if the Army owned the cars? I just loaded and left. -- Mark McHugh DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Black Sun
-Caveat Lector- Mike! Thanks for the photos. The one's I've seen previously are poor in color and size. Can you transcribe from "airport.jpg" the text of the the scroll and the inscription at the bottom left of the mural the next time you're at the airport? I've noticed how the weapon appears to be a fusion of the US M-16A1 and a Russian AK-47. Also, the character looks like one of the Four Horsemen, War. Any more of those murals around? 3's, 5's, triangles and a Masonic capstone for a public facility. Verrry interesting. Where in the airport is the capstone located? -- Mark McHugh DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Black Sun
-Caveat Lector- You can view a detail from the image and read the scroll at: http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/Denver3a.htm Linked thumbprints of the images are available here: http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/Denver_cat.htm Lucio - Original Message - From: Mark McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Black Sun -Caveat Lector- Mike! Thanks for the photos. The one's I've seen previously are poor in color and size. Can you transcribe from "airport.jpg" the text of the the scroll and the inscription at the bottom left of the mural the next time you're at the airport? I've noticed how the weapon appears to be a fusion of the US M-16A1 and a Russian AK-47. Also, the character looks like one of the Four Horsemen, War. Any more of those murals around? 3's, 5's, triangles and a Masonic capstone for a public facility. Verrry interesting. Where in the airport is the capstone located? -- Mark McHugh DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Black Sun
-Caveat Lector- I don't think it's very good art. I don't think it's demonic or occult, just intended to evoke the horror of war. George Grosz and Käthe Kollwitz did a much better job during and after WWI. The dove is probably meant to represent, not the Holy Spirit, but rather Peace (as in the Lenin Peace Prize). There's a lot of strange stuff at DIA, a lot of which seems intended to jerk a few chains (like the joker who included the line about the "New World Airport Commission" on one of the plaques). That terminal is, hands down, the strangest building I have ever been in. Seeing it sitting there in the middle of all that open space, with those bizarre ventilation towers sitting in open fields, you can almost believe the stories about it being the cover for the secret North American headquarters of the New World Order, with secret tunnels a mile deep or whatever... -Original Message- From: Michael F. Corbin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 1:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Black Sun Here is another picture attached. This picture is of the mural out at the airport. Please notice the sabre and where it is positioned to the dove. The "thing" that is standing there is wearing what appears to be a gas mask or a biological warfare-type apparatus, however it also appears to blend into his face, possibly implying something demonic. What is interesting is that a dove is representative of Christ or the Holy Spirit in Christianity and you will notice that the sabre appears to be piercing the dove in the rectal area. Personally, I find this art repulsive and in very poor taste for a public facility, but I may be too sensitive. Thoughts or ideas? Mike File: Airport.jpg DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hegel [repost]
-Caveat Lector- Remember that "kabbalah" in Hebrew means something like "transmission" or "tradition"... -Original Message- From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 8:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hegel [repost] -Caveat Lector- snip As for RELIGION --a subject about which Hegel (who felt a priestly "calling") was ambivalent-- there has always been a kind of "fraternal" bond between the Lutherans and Rosicrucians, from Melanchthon on. Moreover, the "Rosicrucian" perspective included elements from Neoplatonism, and Neoplatonic cosmology shared many points in common with the KABBALAH, so ... It might seem rather vague and over-general, even when "narrowed down" like this, UNTIL one goes deeper into the "detective business" of identifying specifics like WHAT (exactly) was an influence on WHOM (individually), as Person X discussed it (WHEN, WHERE) with Person Y (or Person Y otherwise encountered it in such-and-such a form, for instance by reading a book by Person X), and WHO knew WHO well enough to make likely an exchange of ideas, and we keep the focus on SPECIFIC concepts rather than larger "schools of thought" (there are SEVERAL) in which these may be found, as we play "connect the dots" in history, delineating the "chain(s) of transmission" ... snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scottish Ark of Covenant
-Caveat Lector- The Ark is in Roslyn Chapel in Scotland.. along with the matthew scrolls, the head of god, the black rune of scotland, the holy grail, hidden vaults of the mystical templars, treasure and probably an alien spacecraft - plus the golden order of the bee, werewolves, cloning, mutant GM crops, ghosts on horseback, satanists in the glen, stoneage nature diva in the glen, the black dog of rosslyn the real stone of destiny etc etc If I were you I would pay direct attention to the bible quotes on the back of that stella templum piece that I quoted - it comes from the same vaults as all that other lot of artefacts that I just quoted. The custodian of ladies rock is the head of star temple. Andrew DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Underground base by Norio Hayakawa
-Caveat Lector- hi, great news and good reporting etc etc ... BUT - when the truck gets to its next stop - which you mentioned - don't you think that you have seriously jeapordised the lives of the truckers ?? Andrew DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Crisis in the wilderness by Hanry Lamb
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/18/1999 3:16:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Control of the land and its natural resources is the prize. It is not a new struggle. The federal government has been tightening its grip on land and its resources for decades Yeah, but all they do is give the use of it and the profit to be made from it to their rich friends. Do you have a plan to change all that? Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 300,000$ reward, bunk. . .
-Caveat Lector-
From: TenebrousT
Subject: [CTRL] 300,000$ reward, bunk. . .
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:16:13 -0700
http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg26403.html
-Caveat Lector-
Here is a list of topics from http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html
snip
No offense Teo, but Dan Evans is a statist imp, and a
wanna be shyster -- as anyone who ever subscribed to
misc.taxes well knows -- it's saddening to see you post
his swill on CTRL.
His Tax Protester FAQ is deceptive in that the
constitutional issues the FAQ seems to debunk, are
*not* decided in tax court on constitutional grounds.
Indeed many of the 'debunked' arguments are
constitutionally correct, the problem is that (as far
as tax court goes) constitutional arguments with
regards to income tax are utterly irrelevant. That's
why federal judges presiding over income tax cases
often blurt out something along the lines of, "The
constitution does not apply in my court!"
Income Tax cases are decided on "Invisible Contracts",
thus constitutional arguments based on tort are losing
arguments, not because they are legally incorrect on
constitutional grounds, but because whenever contract
law applies, tort arguments are automatically
overruled.
I've read enough of Dan Evans' usenet posts over the
years to understand that he *knows* this, and instead
of "letting the cat out of the bag", and exposing the
true nature of why these constitutional arguments are
losing arguments (because of "Invisible Contracts"), he
deceptively pretends that these constitutional
arguments lost on *constitutional* grounds, which is
not the case.
In short, the information in the "300,000$ reward"
posted by Bob Stokes is *not* bunk, at least with
regards to tort and constitutional law, although it is
bunk when "Invisible Contracts" are factored into those
cases brought forward in tax court -- cases that Dan
has *deceptively* based his FAQ on. When these
"Invisible Contracts" are not present, the IRS never
goes to court with Protestors because their tort/
constitutional arguments (that Dan Evans styles as
'bunk') would be legally potent, and the IRS knows it
would be a losing case.
There are numerous Americans that have legally not paid
income taxes in 15-20 years -- individuals whom the IRS
would *never* bring into tax court because they are not
bound by the "Invisible Contracts" which the IRS
actually bases it's income tax cases on -- individuals
such as Frog Farmer http://www.frogfarm.org/, for
example.
The following was recently posted to CTRL, but does
such a good job of explaining what is really going on
with these losing constitutional arguments (and
debunking that non sequitur fallacies Dan's Tax
Protester FAQ is based on) that it's worth re-posting:
philately
"The Armen Condo Letter"
-- background --
In August, 1984, Armen Condo, Founder of Your Heritage
Protection Agency ("YHPA") was being prosecuted by the
Federal Government under numerous tax related statutes,
as well as other collateral charges such as mail fraud.
The YHPA is still (the record holds to this day), the
largest organized tax protester group to ever have
existed in the United States (with respectful deference
to our Founding Fathers and innumerable fellow unsung
"tax protester" patriots living and laying their lives
on the line in the 1700s for our benefit today). In its
heyday in the 1970s/1980s, the YHPA's dues-paying
membership reached well into the 20,000 to 30,000
range, before it was ultimately brought into a state of
non-existence through the intervention of strongly
persuasive federal influences.
The YHPA published a fairly thick newspaper, and
continued on in their efforts for several years, with
their primary focus based upon the illegitimacy of
Federal Reserve Notes, contending thereon that receipt
of said Federal Reserve Notes did not constitute
"income," therefore, no one receiving said notes was
liable under federal income tax statutes. Although
additional proprietary "tax protester" positions were
routinely addressed, the YHPA's primary focus remained
centered around Federal Reserve Notes.
Curiously, as a side note, individuals choosing to join
the YHPA (usually in the context of a dinner/seminar
setting), were guided through a "joining process" at
the conclusion of the seminar, where dual ID photos
were taken (the YHPA kept one photo, and you received
the other, using a dual-photo camera similar to the
dual-photo cameras used at your local Department of
Motor Vehicles or local passport photo vendor) and
slick, professional looking "ID cards" were processed
on the spot and given to each new member at that time.
In hindsight, the stated reasons given at these
dinner/seminars with respect to the "necessity" of
having/creating a photo ID card were rather specious at
best, and in fact, there was some additional hindsight
talk that perhaps the YHPA was a Federal "Tax
Protester" Sting Operation all along, designed to
attract and then identify. [For example, in
[CTRL] The OMEGA CODE...a must-see movie now !!
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: GroomWatch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The OMEGA CODE...a must-see movie now !! Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 1:52 AM The Apocalyptic scenarios of the End-Time Period, the coming Anti-Christ, the coming Global Government (New World Order), the Tribulation Period, the Middle-East War...and the return of our Lord Jesus Christ!! For the first time, here is a Hollywood-style thriller about the Biblical End-Times.produced by born-again Christians! NOW SHOWING AT THEATERS NEAR YOU !! The Official Omega Code Website http://www.theomegacode.com Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Experts say Your on your own.
-Caveat Lector- NEWS FLASH!! "FROM NOW ON, YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN," Say Experts. WASHINGTON, DC--Citing years of frustration over their advice being misunderstood, misrepresented or simply ignored, America's foremost experts in every field collectively tendered their resignation Monday. "Despite all our efforts to advise this nation, America still throws out its recyclables, keeps its guns in unlocked cabinets where children have easy access, eats three times as much red meat as is recommended, watches seven hours of TV per day, swims less than 10 minutes after eating, and leaves halogen lights on while unattended," said Dr. Simon Peavy, vice-president of the National Association of Experts. "Since you don't seem to care about things you don't understand, screw you. We quit." "My final piece of expert advice," Peavy added, "is that all of you people should just go f*** yourselves." Michael Leland, until recently a Department of Energy advisor specializing in planetary energy-use infrastructures and a leading expert in petrochemical and fossil-fuel depletion, maintained that the experts' mass resignation is justified. "Last year, I testified before Congress that at the current rate of consumption, the planet's supply of coal, natural gas and oil would be gone within 40 years, and they looked at me as if I was some sort of crackpot," Leland said. "What's the point?" "We'll say it one last time before we pack up and go: In 20 years, you'll be up to your asses in old folks," a written statement from the National Advisory Council On Aging read in part. "Since America has not yet begun making preparations for the explosion in its senior population, we recommend that you begin research on federally funded, hydroelectrically powered 'eldercution camps,' where the teeming hordes of the aged can be disposed of quickly and painlessly." According to Peavy, despite the vast amounts of scientifically proven and historically sound advice provided by the nation's experts, the National Association of Experts could cite no instances of advice being followed in the manner they had intended. "Public reaction was favorable to the news that a glass of wine a day can help prevent heart attacks," Peavy said. "Of course, most people figured that eight glasses of wine a day must be better than one. And many Americans reacted well to the news that eggs probably wouldn't kill them outright. Aside from that, they've pretty much ignored every word we've ever said concerning just about everything." Because the experts' advice was barely followed, the mass resignation is expected to have little impact on the lives of most Americans. "Go ahead, America," Peavy said. "You don't need us. Watch all the topsoil go down the Mississippi. Transport your children in baskets on top of your SUV deathmobiles. Keep playing with your cute and cuddly pal, the atom. Press your nose against the TV screen for even more educational 3rd Rock From The Sun enjoyment. Use plentiful gasoline to burn book-readers at the stake. Don't eat anything but sugared pork lard. Do whatever you want." Despite its negligible impact on the population at large, the sudden dearth of experts is expected to be devastating for the American media, particularly TV newsmagazines, which have come to heavily rely on experts for their incisive, time-filling punditry. "How in the world are we supposed to do a story on how the Internet is changing the face of Christianity without Internet and Christianity experts?" said Dateline NBC executive producer Russell Ross. "How can we report on the stress-relieving impact of whale songs without top psychotherapists and marine biologists to offer their perspective? Without the insight of professors and best-selling authors, a TV special report has no credibility. It may well mean the end of American telejournalism as we know it." According to FDA spokesperson Jonathan Landau, the exiting advisors will be missed, but the nation must move forward. "We, of course, are deeply saddened to lose America's most knowledgeable individuals in every field," Landau said. "But at the same time, it's important to recognize that their advice, however well-informed or well-intentioned, was almost always impractical." END DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always,
Re: [CTRL] Underground base by Norio Hayakawa
-Caveat Lector- Hi Andrew, I'm only passing it on from Norios site. I thought of that option of not passing it on but figured with so many people on the net, they wouldn't have the time to monitor all of them. They are using code words to sift the info thru Echelon and if they are targeting this list I think we would have had our relevant viruses and files wiped by now. Though some peole are having trouble, we haven't got to Newshawk threat yet. Don't know how many on this list but it may as well go to people who are seriously trying to do something about the NWO instead of just waffling, denying and pleading helpless.Knowledge is power, pen mightier than sword etc They didn't quite get away with the LA earthquake at 3am, too many people saw too much. What they need is exposure. Speaking of Exposure I must pick my up copy today. Nicky -Original Message- From: Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, 19 October 1999 9:02 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Underground base by Norio Hayakawa -Caveat Lector- hi, great news and good reporting etc etc ... BUT - when the truck gets to its next stop - which you mentioned - don't you think that you have seriously jeapordised the lives of the truckers ?? Andrew DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [abinfo] In Defence of Sitchin
can you send body of this msg to CTRL and delete all name references? something happened to the email bud i sent it to,for him to forward--im not sure what- let me know Hey,ive had a wierd feeling about you the last couple days--is everything OK? liz From: Karen Lyster [EMAIL PROTECTED] There has been an email doing the rounds on the net over the past two days... slaming the work of Sitchin... I received this email from Lloyd Pye yesterday addressing most of the points raised. Read the comments and complaints at the bottom, then go up to the top to read Lloyd's reply... -Original Message- From: lloydpye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 2:17 AM Subject: Re: Question Regarding Sitchin Gavin: Dasgoat sounds like either a wannabe--or possibly even an accredited--scholar who is unable to get his/her own ideas (whatever they might be) accepted at a popular level (and probably not even at a peer level), so (s)he is outraged (as so many of them are) that someone like Zecharia should have such enormous popular success without going through the grinding process of accreditation that weeds out all but those scholars (like themselves) who are most willing to hew to and zelously support the status quo as it exists in their era. Whether men or women, these people tend to possess miserably thwarted ambitions and stunningly petty outlooks on life, so to assuage their stunted little spirits they glibly perform character assassinations without--ironically enough--showing any of the evidence they accuse their victims of lacking. I can assure you that Goatcheese, whoever (s)he might be, is all hat and no cattle when it comes to criticizing Zecharia Sitchin. He starts off saying Sitchin is "just another Von Daniken." Absurd! Erich Von Daniken did some excellent basic research in many areas of establishment dogma, but his good work is easily glossed over by opponents because of his unfortunate habit of shooting from the lip in interpretations of evidence and data. Sitchin NEVER does that, and in fact goes well out of his way to avoid doing anything approaching it. I have spent weeks with the man, travelling around the world visiting ancient sites, and I quickly noticed that he NEVER shoots from the lip. He never speculates AT ALL. If he doesn't KNOW the answer to a question, he will shrug it off and refuse to answer, no matter who is asking it or how innocently it is put to him. At breakfast one morning when it was just the two of us I asked him why the tight lips when asked to speculate. He told me that he knew he was building a place for himself in history, a place that later scholars would return to again and again once his work was recognized for what it is, which he sadly accepts is not likely to be in his own lifetime (he's 80 now). That being the case, he doesn't want any quotes floating around that he does not know for a fact are the truth. He then added that he won't even speculate with his wife, Rina, when it is just the two of them and no one else, because he does not want her to ever say to any friend of hers, even off-handedly, that "Zack said so-and-so about such-and-such." And then he added this kicker: "I have to be very, very careful that my work is not Von Daniken-ized" And, needless to say, it is closed-mined status-quo protectors like Giles Goatboy who do the Von Daniken-izing he was referring to in that conversation. Goatboy has absolutely NO concept of Zecharia's translating ability, no concept at all. He is just spouting off, venting his obvious frustration. And when he says Zecharia's work is "beneath comment by reputable scholars," what he really means but can't say is that reputable scholars are scared witless of Zecharia. Have you ever noticed that you NEVER see ANY of Zecharia's books reviewed in scholarly magazines, or even in pseudo scholarly magazines like Discover, Anthropology, Archeology, Smithsonian, or even Scientific American? Why is that? If he's so full of crap, as Goatass is saying, why then do reputable scholars not take him on in print and show the world precisely where he is "FABRICATING evidence" and "LYING to suit his purposes"? Better yet, why do they not challenge him to debates in public arenas, like Harvard or Yale or MIT? I mean, Zecharia is in the New York phone book. He's not hard to find. He's certainly not hiding from anyone. So why don't they challenge him face-to-face rather in these cowardly emails that jerks like Goatshit circulate on the net? The reason is that he would DEMOLISH them, and every scholar that has ever actually read his material knows it. And if Goatbreath wants to back up his scurrilous garbage with a challenge to debate Zecharia, I'm sure Zecharia would show up at any arena in the New York area (he's 80, after all) that could be arranged. I'm sure Goatherd will find out in due course that Zecharia is in fact a helluva lot smarter than his readers, and will be a
[CTRL] Cold Fusion
-Caveat Lector- From: Hal Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cold Fusion Date: Monday, October 18, 1999 Dear Friends: As a professional scientist, I have spent the past ten years (plus) since the announcement of "cold fusion" in tracking down, investigating, and reporting on a variety of proposed new energy devices. Our group (Fusion Information Center and Trenergy, Inc.) have published hundreds of articles and collected, read, and reported on over 3,000 professional papers on various new-energy devices, systems, proposals, and theories. In a capsule paragraph, here are the results: 1. Cold fusion does work (over 600 papers from over 200 laboratories in 30 countries have reported successes). However, none of the varieties of cold fusion devices are (as yet) robust, easily replicated, and offer no threat to the hot-fusion community. 2. The "Cincinnati Group" has shown both excess thermal energy and nuclear reactions from a special electrochemical configuration. The most important finding is the ability to reduce the radioactivity in some aqueous solutions. We have replicated and extended this work in Trenergy's laboratory and have reported the results in a meeting of the American Nuclear Society. Some similar (but different configuration) low-energy nuclear reactions have been accomplished and fully reported by Professor George Miley, editor of Fusion Technology, the International Journal of the American Nuclear Society. This work is now being extended to the on-site stabilization of high-level, radioactive, spent-fuel pellets by the Trenergy group. This work is being performed with private funds so that the intellectual property rights are preserved. Several patents are pending. 3. The newest work of Prof. Ruggero M. Santilli has shown that a special type of underwater arcing can produce a combustible gas from carbon-containing wastes (sewage and other types of contaminated water). This gas can be produced to provide two-and-one-half times as much energy out as energy input to create the gas. Patents are pending. The work is being supported and commercialized by Toups Technology Licensing, Inc. of Florida. 4. Dr. Randell Mills has shown that energy can be obtained by the collapsing of the hydrogen atom below its normal ground state. For further information, see www.blacklightpower.com which has been recently updated with a new article presented before the American Chemical Society earlier this month. Patents pending. 5. Kenneth Shoulders (see U.S. Patent 5,018,180) has shown how the use of high-density charge clusters can produce both excess thermal and direct electrical energy. Up to now the devices have been small (about one watt per device). Plans are made and private funding is being used to scale up these thermal and direct electrical output discoveries. According to the patent, the excess energy apparently comes from tapping the vacuum energy of space. These are the unemotional facts about new energy. There are several other developments that could be cited. However, these are the patented (and patent-pending) discoveries that are being commercialized. In all cases the research and developments has been done by private funds (except possibly for some work done by Prof. George Miley). The Department of Energy has yet to discover and officially announce these new-energy processes. Anyone who desires to condemn ALL new-energy projects as fraudulent is, of course, either vastly misinformed or working under someone else's agenda. The genuine, new-energy development program is vigorous, scientific, privately funded, patented, and (for the above items 3, 4, 5) is being commercialized. There is nothing that the new-energy detractors can do that will prevent the increasingly rapid commercialization of new-energy devices and systems. The most important aspect is the following: There is no need for government funding. Government funds only delay and add paperwork. The end result is that the Department of Energy will find it increasingly difficult to get funds for energy development when they have been so reluctant to fund anything but hot fusion for so many years. They have really failed in their assigned mission to develop new energy sources. Anyway, my friends, I thought you would like an update on the truth about new-energy developments. Best personal regards, Hal Fox http://www.padrak.com/ine [above forwarded by:] David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chartered Life Underwriter, Bachelor of Science of Chemistry, New-Energy Technology Designs 20411 Steeple Court, Tehachapi CA 93561 GENERAL AGENCY SERVICES Phone: 661-833-3309; Fax 561-658-2735 http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/genagency.html Global Emergency Alert Response http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000 Capital Hills Research Center http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/chrc.html Global Peace Walk Project http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/gpw.html Global Peace Walk2000 Zone2000 Year2000
Re: [CTRL] Black Sun
-Caveat Lector- It is interesting. Why are those horrid murals in the airport? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Underground base by Norio Hayakawa
-Caveat Lector- Another little teensy question: Why would guys with black helicopters and a nice fleet of unmarked cars not have their OWN damned Mack truck (Freightliner, Peterbilt, whatever) ?! Lame, lame story. Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric Lash Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 11:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Underground base by Norio Hayakawa -Caveat Lector- If this were true, the truckers would probably have been sworn to secrecy. It would probably be easy for the FEDs to identify the trucker involved, who talked. They quite likely would be in violation of one or more federal laws. This makes the information highly suspect as more disinformation. At 01:37 AM 10/19/99 +1300, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- http://members.aol.com/phikent/trucker.txt by researcher, Norio Hayakawa. A week ago I was having breakfast at SAPP Brothers truck stop just south of Omaha. I had a UFO magazine with me when this trucker seated across from me in the non-smoking section asked why I was interested in UFO's. I told the trucker about my experiences, when I was finished the trucker toldme a story that made the hair stand up on the back of my neck... Don, This report is only seven days old, feel free to share with Vince DiPietro, Dr. Brandenberg and serious friends. A week ago I was having breakfast at SAPP Brothers truck stop just south of Omaha. I had a UFO magazine with me when this trucker seated across from me in the non-smoking section asked why I was interested in UFO's. I told the trucker about my experiences, when I was finished the trucker toldme a story that made the hair stand up on the back of my neck...A few weeks ago she and her husband were solicited to pick up a load from a military base in Arizona ( they weren't told where but were given a map by the dispatcher) They pulled into the base gate and uniformed guards hooked up the trailer which was "refrigerated". They were instructed to proceed thru Utah, stop into Wright Patterson in Ohio then go on to gues where..Wytheville, Virginia. Along the way they were instructed to "bypass" any weigh stations and to show the contents of an envelope to any law enforcement agency which might stop them. They bypassed a weigh ststion just east of Salt Lake City Utah when they were pulled over within five minutes by the highway patrol. Within two minutes of their truck being pulled over four unmarked "U.S. InterAgency" cars pulled up on the shoulder of the road and Two Black Heilocopters landed in a small field off the highway. One man dressed in as black suit came over to the highway patrolman with some identification then went over to the truckers cab and asked for the contents of the envelope which were shown to the officer. The Utah Patrolman was a bit shaken and told them in a pretty nervous fashion to get on their way. The copters took off immediately after the guy in the black suit boarded and the cars sped away...they were escorted by the same cars to a grassy road just west of a very large hill just a couple of miles from Wytheville, Viginia. There were trees close on both sides and from the secondary highway you could look right at the grassy area and not know it was a road. The trucker stated that they drove for twenty minutes at about 5 m.p.h. to huge doors imbedded in the side of a hill. They went down a gradual slope on concrete once inside. They said it looked like the inside of a modern office building, cameras all around, guards in black uniforms, no badges, no patches. One guard got inside the cab with them which the trailer was unhooked. They were then shown the way out through a very long tunnel, at least a mile or two long. They came out right next to a via duct, some chain link fences along an interstate route near Wytheville. The truckers said they had been though that area mnany times before but never saw this exit. The guard closed the normal looking serrvice gate after they passed through, got into a black humvee and drove back down the highway some distance behind them then they couldn't see him anymore. The area they were in was a remote wooded and hilly area then when they came out it was almost flat except for where the tunnel was coming out of the hill.end of transcript...This was related to me by a trucker whose partner been instructed to stay with the truck. They were taking another trailer from Ohio back to a base near Las Vegas, Nevada. Wonder where that could be...Now here is the best part on the side of thre trialer was a small 12" rectangular logo which read "EG G". Jack Kasher is aware of this story. Please be careful who you share this with as I promised the trucker anonimnity and gave them my card. If they have anymore weird loads they said they would fax me a note from a truck stop where they might
Re: [CTRL] [prj] Re: OJ Simpsons Florida COCAINE connection!
-Caveat Lector- Yakuza done 'er in. Her 'n 'er boyfriend were in the trade, prob'ly got caught dippin' in the money bag. Other murders tied to a nightclub in common with Mrs. Simpson companion's murders. Deep slashing like pro- Yak hit. OJ's dirty, but he didn't do those two murders. Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 1:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] [prj] Re: OJ Simpsons Florida COCAINE connection! -Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Lloyd Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: j [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: New Paradigms Discussion Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [prj] Re: OJ Simpsons Florida COCAINE connection! Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 4:24 AM Free Rare/Out-of-Print Book Searches - Ruling Class/Conspiracy Experts: E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** END From: j [EMAIL PROTECTED] If he was STILL 'out looking for the killer of Nicole', this would not have happened or maybe, if he was out on the golf course? Lloyd Responds: You are missing the point! There was cocaine in Nicole's apartment the night she was murdered. There is evidence that both OJ and Nicole were involved in cocaine for a long timenow we have more evidence that people very close to OJ are involved in cocaine big time. This shows how fraudulent the OJ prosecution waswhy didn't they dig deep into this aspect of the case? Murders and drugs are common occurences and should have been considered, esp. when the time line allowing OJ to commit the crime didn't add-up. Another hint: POLICE are often hip deep in the cocaine trade! We have Furman and van Atter obviously lying about why the entered OJ's estate, carrying blood to the site, leaving the site samples on a table over-night, and on and on. *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** A Growing Selection of A-albionic's Books Can Be Browsed and Purchased Conveniently in the Shopping Cart at http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html END Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
Re: [CTRL] The NON-Sitchin Sumerian Creation Myth
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/17/99 7:26:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and then digest it the light of what's only implied in "Hamlet's Mill" by Giorgio de Santillana and made more explicit in Nicholas Campion's "The Great Year," just for starters ... I'm wondering if you could give us an overview of "Hamlet's Mill", I have heard a lot about this book and have tried to find it a couple of times but have been unsuccessful so far. I'd really like to have some idea of the books premise. premise. * "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [The real deal?] Re: A defense of reptile Sitchin (f...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/18/99 6:46:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, please don't assume you're in hostile territory here on CTRL and don't treat me as if I'm a force to be reckoned with, who needs to be appeased somehow, in order to "earn" your right to express your own opinions! We WELCOME different points of view on CTRL and welcome them even more when they're as carefully expounded as yours It was certainly an interesting post, especially for what you've said about (alleged) encounters with the (alleged) "retro-engineering" of "alien" technology -- a subject which I'm not qualified to judge, about which, being short on facts, I can only have "opinions." IF TRUE, that might indeed lend credence to the "extraterrestrial origins" hypothesis. Let me jump in and second this idea. Many times on this list there are people of very forceful personality who drive home their comments in a very direct way, which can, at times, intimidate people, or make them feel that they must conform or appease when addressing the list. There are only a couple of rules on this list and they are encapsulated in the disclaimer which is in each mailing. All ideas that are debated here, no matter who expresses them are open to any kind of criticism, even foolish or faulty ones (at least from some peoples perspectives). As for belief systems they are foolish to attack since you can never win any argument that your present. Please feel free to post on any topic and say what you will, let the people hear it all and decide what they will. My opinions about UFO's and extraterrestrials are known to many on this list and I usually don't take it easy on people who spout extraterrestrial origins for UFO's simply because it is my BELIEF, which I FEEL is based upon FACT and OBSERVATION, but in reality is still subjective and mayu not be agreed to by you or anyone else. My succinct comments on that topic should in no way deter others from chiming in to present their views pro or con. That is what this list is all about. about. * "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [MC] The Real Thing - A review by Jim Keith
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Nicola Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mind Control [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; TheEagle-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MC] The Real Thing - A review by Jim Keith Date: Saturday, October 16, 1999 7:55 PM Original Message The Real Thing - A review by Jim Keith Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 21:05:28 +1300 From: Nicola Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Real Thing A review by Jim Keith Cybernetic brain control, achieved by innocent-seeming increments of technology: A popular product provides the capital for saturation advertising, saturation provides the continual reinforcement via electronic brain massage so that a culture takes on a hypnotic mode of acceptance, and the advertising offers the carrier wave for really sinking the subconscious, glandular meathooks in. The ruthlessness, the cynicism of control makes it certain that the puppet strings will continue to be implanted as deeply in the flesh as the state of technology permits. Take the image of Coca Cola as being "the real thing", the all-American fun beverage, consumed by (if we are to believe the ads) middle-American, horsing-around-on-the-beach, hot dog-grilling, "soft" drink-swilling, fresh-faced teenagers (who no doubt have as little idea of the techniques of Pavlovian advertising as the rest of the world). And then observe the techniques by which Coke is actually sold. I just watched a Coke ad on television and noted (as I have noted in most of the ads for companies with the kind of cash necessary to buy top flight Madison Avenue brain and gland rinsing) a number of interesting things. First, the jerking breasts of the teenage girl in a sack race. Coke, presumably, expects us to believe that is was a candid shot taken in a slap-happy moment of abandon, but anyone with any familiarity with film knows that it isn't. The image is precise, focused, choreographed. The shot was chosen precisely for the image of jerking breasts (virtually every Coke ad has one or more images of jerking tits and fluxing buns, as do Pepsi commercials, etc.). Another image shows the uplifted Coke bottle with guzzling teenager. Let's not rule out that Coke executives, choosing the imagery of the ad, may just possibly have considered the fellation equation. Another shot shows a toddler's diaper falling down, people laughing uproariously at this no-doubt hilarious occurrance. But the following cut is the telling one, where all of the elements cum together. A young woman, sitting on the lap of a fellow in a rocking chair, falls backward onto him as the chair tips over. Everyone is still laughing (their asses off), but that precise posture of anal penetration is shown in slow, loving motion. Compare the strategy of this ad, its techniques for obtaining and holding attention (what more fascinating image than analism, the Coca Cola Company thinks) while the "Coke" message is drilled in. Compare it with the above ground image of the company. Wholesome, American, Fun, Youthful Wholesome, American, Fun, Youthful Wholesome, American, Fun, Youthful Wholesome, American, Fun, Youthful Wholesome, American, Fun, Youthful Wholesome, American, Fun, Youthful, Wholesome, American, Fun, Youthful, Wholesome, American, Fun, Youthful, Wholesome, American, Fun, Youthful Wholesome, American, Fun, Youthful, Wholesome, American, Fun, Youthful. Jim Keith is the author of Casebook on Alternative 3: UFOs, Secret Societies and World Control, available for $12.95 from IllumiNet Press, POB 2808, Lilburn, GA 30226. 1-800-680-INET. - Send "subscribe snetnews " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Posted by: Nicola Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** MINDCONTROL-L Mind Control and Psyops Mailing List To unsubscribe or subscribe: send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text: "unsubscribe MINDCONTROL-L" or "subscribe MINDCONTROL-L". Post to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED], list moderator Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE
Re: [CTRL] 300,000$ reward, bunk. . .
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/18/99 4:42:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No offense Teo, but Dan Evans is a statist imp, and a wanna be shyster -- as anyone who ever subscribed to misc.taxes well knows -- it's saddening to see you post his swill on CTRL. His Tax Protester FAQ is deceptive in that the constitutional issues the FAQ seems to debunk, are *not* decided in tax court on constitutional grounds. Indeed many of the 'debunked' arguments are constitutionally correct, the problem is that (as far as tax court goes) constitutional arguments with regards to income tax are utterly irrelevant. That's why federal judges presiding over income tax cases often blurt out something along the lines of, "The constitution does not apply in my court!" Income Tax cases are decided on "Invisible Contracts", thus constitutional arguments based on tort are losing arguments, not because they are legally incorrect on constitutional grounds, but because whenever contract law applies, tort arguments are automatically overruled. I've read enough of Dan Evans' usenet posts over the years to understand that he *knows* this, and instead of "letting the cat out of the bag", and exposing the true nature of why these constitutional arguments are losing arguments (because of "Invisible Contracts"), he deceptively pretends that these constitutional arguments lost on *constitutional* grounds, which is not the case. In short, the information in the "300,000$ reward" posted by Bob Stokes is *not* bunk, at least with regards to tort and constitutional law, although it is bunk when "Invisible Contracts" are factored into those cases brought forward in tax court -- cases that Dan has *deceptively* based his FAQ on. When these "Invisible Co I'm not offended in the least by your comments here. You have all but agreed with my basic premise, which is amply illustrated by the court cases which are cited in the FAQ, that is that the LAW and the CONSTITUTION do not matter a hill of beans if you can't go into court and win the case. Incidentally I hate taxes and think that they should be abolished, as excessive, and immoral, etc. However I am not foolish enough to quit paying KNOWING full well that if I am brought to court I will LOSE and be made to pay, and with interest and penalties as well. I didn't post his information as an endorsement per se, but to illustrate a point. BTW, your comments may be 100% factual in your representation of them, BUT the point still is, how can you gain anything by it, if you will just lose the case in court? It is virtually impossible to live without being enmeshed in the state machine in some way, thus even if the overriding factor is "invisible contracts" there is no way to get around it, or is there? Thanks for your comments it was my intention to spur discussion! discussion! * "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hard day for U.S. stocks
-Caveat Lector- http://cnnfn.com/1999/10/18/markets/marketwrap/ NEW YORK (CNNfn) - Volatility and a series conflicting factors sent U.S. stock markets in opposite directions Monday. While a series of strong earnings reports from the Dow's financial components helped the blue chip index rally, less promising bottom-line reports and Wall Street's growing inflation fears plunged the Nasdaq into a dive. Investors remained on edge after Friday's market sell-off, nervously awaiting Tuesday's release of data on inflation at the consumer level for more hints on the direction of interest rates. Friday's unexpectedly steep jump in wholesale inflation jolted the market and triggered a drop that led to the biggest one-week point loss in history for the Dow industrials. The Dow Jones industrial average rose 96.57 points Monday to 10,116.28, after dipping below the psychologically important 10,000 level several times during the day. On the New York Stock Exchange, declines beat advances 1,954 to 1,095 as 801 million shares changed hands. The Nasdaq composite index, however, finished 42.68 points, or 1.6 percent, lower at 2,689.15, even though it too managed to claw its way up from the day's lows. The SP 500 index gained 6.72 to 1,254.13. The bond market fell following the Dow's recovery and amid caution ahead of the Consumer Price Index report Tuesday. The benchmark 30-year Treasury bond fell 22/32 of a point in price for a yield of 6.32 percent, up from Friday's 6.26 percent. The dollar fell slightly against the yen and rose slightly against the euro. Despite Wall Street's recent bearish showing, however, many non-professional investors remain optimistic about the market. According to a CNNfn.com poll of online readers, some 52 percent of more than 6,000 respondents believe the bull market is still alive and 50 percent plan no changes in their current portfolios. This bullish response also found support from one of Wall Street's most respected professional market watchers. Goldman Sachs' Abby Joseph Cohen, known for her bullish stance and her accurate market predictions, said in a paper sent to clients Monday that investors' fears are unfounded and the fundamentals supporting the stock market remain intact. Cashing in on bank earnings In the stock market, earnings news dominated trading as investors took a one-day break from focusing on the latest economic data. Banking stocks helped push the Dow industrials higher after two of the blue-chip index's financial components reported stronger-than-expected third-quarter earnings. Shares of Citigroup (C) advanced 1-9/16 to 43-11/16 after the banking, insurance and investing conglomerate reported a profit of 70 cents per diluted share, 2 cents above expectations. J.P. Morgan 's (JPM) stock rallied 7-5/16 to 113 after the investment banker said it earned $2.22 a share in the third quarter, well above expectations of $2.15 a share. Outside of the Dow industrials, shares of Bank of America (BAC) rose 1-3/8 to 49-9/16 after the North Carolina-based bank reported a third-quarter profit of $1.23 a share, two pennies more than consensus forecasts. But the picture was far less bright in the technology sector. Shares of office equipment maker Xerox (XRX) were punished severely after the company's third-quarter results fell 11 percent below a year earlier. The stock tumbled 3-5/8, or more than 13 percent, to 23-13/16. Xerox also warned that price pressures and other problems will continue to dampen results into 2000. And printer maker Lexmark (LXK) saw its stock plunge 28, or more than 30 percent, to 65 after the company issued a warning that its fourth-quarter results would come in at the bottom of analysts' range of estimates. Lexmark also reported third-quarter results that slightly exceeded expectations. Rival printer makers also lost ground in sympathy. Hewlett Packard (HWP), a Dow component, tumbled 4-1/2 to 78-1/4. Hardly any technology stocks were spared by the sellers. Also on the Dow, IBM (IBM) lost 7/8 to 107. Nasdaq's leading high-tech members also shed some feathers, with Microsoft (MSFT) losing 3/16 to 87-7/8, Intel (INTC) dropping 1-1/2 to 69-3/8 and Dell (DELL) falling 1-1/2 to 41-5/16. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] Japan skids 326 points
-Caveat Lector- http://www.cnnfn.com/1999/10/18/markets/asiawrap/ Mounting worries over U.S. equity losses spark heavy sell-off across Asia October 18, 1999: 5:57 a.m. ET LONDON (CNNfn) - Growing fears of instability in the U.S. economy broadsided Asian markets Monday, sending Japanese blue chips tumbling 326 points. Friday's dramatic 266-point sell-off on Wall Street sparked heavy declines across Asia. Hong Kong was closed for a public holiday. Japan's benchmark Nikkei 225 average closed down 326.24 points, or 1.85 percent, at 17,275.33, off earlier lows as traders showed frayed nerves following the Dow Jones industrial average's worst one-week point loss in its history. The Dow shed 630 points over the week - or nearly 6 percent - with the hardest hit coming Friday in the form of a 2.6 percent freefall prompted by strong inflation data and cautionary comments by U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan. High-tech stocks came under heavy pressure in Tokyo as investors raced to unload issues deemed overvalued in light of the recent market jitters. Singapore and Thailand both ended more than 3 percent lower, while South Korea suffered the region's most stinging setback, plummeting 4.2 percent. The across-the-board retreat was a measure of Asia's apprehension that a possible burst in the U.S. equity bubble could spill over to U.S.-reliant export markets in Asia, jeopardizing the region's economic recovery. Friday's plunge briefly sent the leading gauge spinning below the psychologically significant 10,000 mark. The tech-heavy Nasdaq Composite index lost 2.7 percent, while the SP 500 shed 2.8 percent. In Tokyo, the Wall Street downturn and a firming yen dealt a sharp blow to the Nikkei 225, with export-reliant electronics manufacturers especially hard hit. Nikkei traders fear Wall Street could suffer more damage ahead of the Fed's next interest rate-related policy meeting in early November. In Tokyo, fears of instability on Wall Street ate into the electronics sector. Fujitsu Ltd. skidded 10.47 percent to 2,865 yen as NEC Corp. gave up 4.76 percent to 2,100. Among the other heavy high-tech losers, Sony Corp. fell 6.03 percent, while Internet investor Softbank Corp., gave up 7.5 percent. Japan's number-two carmaker, Nissan Motor Co., divulged plans after markets closed to cut more than 21,000 jobs and slash production output by 30 percent under a broad restructuring tied to its new partnership with France's Renault (PRNO) Nissan shares closed down 7.14 percent at 637 yen. Sakura Bank succumbed to profit-taking just days after announcing its plans to merge with rival Sumitomo Bank by April 2002, creating the world's second-largest banking group. Sakura shares slid 10.93 percent to 815 yen. Markets are expected to keep a close eye on U.S. consumer price data due out Tuesday for further hints about the next step in interest rates. The dollar weakened to 105.05 yen late Monday, down from a level of 105.40 late Friday in New York. The euro was quoted at 114.33 yen. Traders are concerned that if the yen strengthens below the 105 level, it could trigger a slippage in the Nikkei below 17,000. Singapore's Straits Times index lost 3.29 percent to 1,993.45, weighed down by slumps in index heavyweights Singapore Press Holdings and DBS Group. South Korean stocks saw the worst bloodshed, reeling 4.22 percent to 826.25 as blue chips came under continued program selling pressure. Australia's All Ordinaries skidded 2.3 percent to 2,796.8. The downturn tarnished the long-awaited second installment of government shares in state-controlled telecom giant Telstra. Manila ended 0.77 percent lower, while Taiwan shares slid 1.07 percent amid local dismay that the Finance Ministry had decided against a further cut in banks' business tax rate from 2 to zero percent. Kuala Lumpur shares retreated 0.82 percent Monday, while Jakarta traders ignored a stronger rupiah to tumble 2.6 percent. Thai stocks followed regional peers lower, giving up more than 3 percent by the close. --from staff and wire reports DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[CTRL] Tuesday's outlook
-Caveat Lector- http://cnnfn.com/1999/10/18/news/afterbell/ The market-moving action will begin early Tuesday with the release of the Labor Department's Consumer Price Index report. According to the average estimate of analysts polled by Reuters, consumer prices likely rose at a 0.4 percent pace last month. Excluding often-volatile food and energy costs, prices probably advanced at a 0.3 percent pace, according to economists' forecasts. The report will be released at 8:30 a.m. Eastern time. Also on Tuesday, Commerce releases September's housing starts and building permits figures. Analysts polled by Reuters expect that housing starts fell to 1.64 million units from 1.68 million units in August. As for building permits, analysts polled expect the number of permits rose to 1.63 million from 1.61 million. More earnings news will also dominate the Wall Street agenda Tuesday, particularly from high-tech companies as Microsoft (MSFT), Peoplesoft (PSFT), and Xilinx (XLNX), among others, unveil their earnings. Philip Morris (MO), Johnson Johnson (JNJ), Reynolds Metals (RLM), Northwest Airlines (NWAC) and Southwest Airlines (LUV) will unveil their quarterly performances. And shares of both Martha Stewart Living Omnipoint (MSO) and World Wrestling Federation Entertainment (WWFE) will undoubtedly garner attention as the year's most anticipated initial public offerings begin trading. Martha Stewart shares will trade at an initial price of 18 a share, while World Wrestling Federation will trade at an initial price of 17 a share. Both companies will be listed on the New York Stock Exchange. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NASA FILM SHOWS UFOs
-Caveat Lector- How can I get a copy of this video? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Help
-Caveat Lector- http://www.conservativenet.com/HotTopics.main/HotMike/document-9.24.1997.7.h tml http://www.cafes.net/mo/tasklist.htm From the Congressional Record http://users.aol.com/~beachbt/ http://www.idmedia.com/cia-no-frames.htm http://www.idmedia.com/ttd.htm http://www.accessone.com/~rivero/POLITICS/BODIES.html http://www.accessone.com/~rivero/ http://www.judicialwatch.org/ http://www.salonmag.com/news/1998/04/cov_08newsa_test.html http://www2.bomis.com/rings/clintonbodycount/ http://www.freerepublic.com/ Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 3:49 PM Subject: Help From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone recommend, or does anyone know of a link that lists the scandals and investigations dealing with Clinton's two administrations? It might include, for example, Whitewater, Travelgate, Filegate, Troopergate, Fostergate, Mena, Lewinsky, Flowers, Jones, and the Arkansas nurse, Ron Brown, Mike Espy, Henry Cisneros, Joycelynn Elders, et al. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Richmond Odom DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [MC] Ted Gunderson/Brice Taylor Lecture - Part 1
Date: October 16, 1999 Time: Approximately 4:30 PM Place: Double Tree Hotel, Los Robles Street, Pasadena, CA Event: Ted Gunderson/Brice Taylor Lecture The first speaker was a gentleman who seemed to make sure no one would know his name, and made emphasis of the fact that no faces - other than the speakers - would be shown on the video tape. The speaker mentioned Ted and Brice by name, and provided a verbal agenda for the evening. Wanting to report the facts to you, I shouted from the audience, "and what is your name?" He yelled back, "what's yours?" I shouted back, "Kathy Kasten, now what's yours?" The guy pretended that I was somehow asking for classified information/ connected with some subversive organization even though I was wearing a "Press" badge. He finally admitted to "Paul", when I told him that I needed his name for my notes. Ted Gunderson led off his segment of the lecture with a recap of his investigation of the MacDonald case which has been an on-going investigation for at least 12 or 13 years. MacDonald was the Green Beret charged with killing his wife and daughter at Fort Bragg. MacDonald still claims his innocence and may in fact be innocent, as Gunderson found an individual who claims that MacDonald did not do the killing; that the family was killed by the local satanic ritual abuse group. Ted also covered highlights of his investigation - with John DeCamp - into the Franklin pedophilia case involving Paul Bonncocci(sp?), touching on the fact that high level government officials were involved in the use of underage children for the sex and drug trade. Also, the fact that the children are used as body parts, and the cost of a child sex slave runs $4,000 to $5,000. Gunderson has a U.S. Customs document showing that two adults were stopped leaving the country with a child that was not related to them. Eventually, the two adults made telephone calls, and the child left the country with them. Apparently, the U.S. Customs were told to back off. Gunderson claimed that the C.I.A. is behind this type of operation. But, the most interesting part of Gunderson's lecture was the additional detailed information he had on the McMartin case. Information which he tried to present to the court in the second trial of the McMartins'; information which the judge in the case was not interested in hearing. This information consisted of an excavation of the McMartin school property by a professional archaeologist paid for with private funds. I had seen only a couple of hand sketched drawings of three items that were found - the "old", the "new" avocado roots, and the dated french fry bag from Disneyland. Seeing the photos of the dig under the school, seeing the filled in tunnels, one branch of the tunnel going under the apartment next door, to a trap door opening into the bathroom. Just as the children had reported. However, this was not the end of the presentation. More astounding was that the children had reported being taken to Crestline Drive to participate in rituals, and Ted was directed to the site by an informant who lived in the nearby area. I for one could hardly believe my eyes. Photo after photo showed stone altars; satanic script etched into various stones around the site; large ovens built into the wall; and a steep concrete slide area going down the side of the mountain - basically to nowhere anything could be retrieved. Once again, the children of the McMartin school proved to be telling the truth, but their full story was never allowed to be told. - - - End of Part 1 - - - ** MINDCONTROL-L Mind Control and Psyops Mailing List To unsubscribe or subscribe: send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text: "unsubscribe MINDCONTROL-L" or "subscribe MINDCONTROL-L". Post to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED], list moderator
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Drudge on G. Dubya
From: Jamie Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] X DRUDGE REPORT X MONDAY, OCTOBER 18, 1999 17:45:09 ET X NEW BOOK TO CLAIM BUSH COKE USE; CAMPAIGN CALLS STORY 'JUNK' A new book set to be released claims that there has been cocaine use by GOP presidential hopeful George W. Bush. Publishing sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT, the book, set for release by THOMAS DUNNE, a division of ST. MARTIN'S PRESS, includes "major revelations of Bush's drug use." A Bush campaign official called the coming book "junk" late Monday evening. A press release that will announce the book reads: "In FORTUNATE SON: THE RISE OF GEORGE W. BUSH AND THE NEXT GENERATION OF AMERICAN POLITICS, journalist J.H. Hatfield uncovers the reasons why Bush denied using drugs after 1974, but has so far refused to address his possible drug use before that year." It continues: "From a former Yale classmate of Bush's and an unofficial political advisor to Bush, Hatfield discovered that Bush was indeed arrested for cocaine possession in 1972 and had his record expunged by a Houston judge after he worked as a youth counselor for several months at Project P.U.L.L., where his father was a heavy contributor and honorary chairman. "When Hatfield asked Scott McClellan, a Bush campaign spokesman, to comment on this allegation, he muttered an almost inaudible, 'Oh, shit,' and after hesitating a moment, finally said, 'No comment.'" The book's "revelations" were moving through elite media circles in Washington late Monday evening. "This is junk!" a Bush campaign official told the DRUDGE REPORT from Austin. "1972?" Developing... --- ONElist Sponsor Get EXPERT CONTENT at ONElist! Join PROSPUNDITS. For details go to: a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/prospun1 "Click Here/a
[CTRL] Bakshish
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From www.security-policy.org/papers/1999/99-D118.html
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Publications of the Center for Security Policy
No. 99-D 118
DECISION BRIEF
18 October 1999
Clinton Legacy Watch # 43: Hard Questions About
Effort to Bribe Russia into Amending the A.B.M. Treaty
(Washington, D.C.): Fresh from its problematic efforts to purchase North Korean
restraint on the development of threatening long-range ballistic missiles, the
Clinton Administration has decided to try to purchase Russia's acquiescence to
its plan to build defenses against such missiles. According to officially
backgrounded reports published in yesterday's New York Times, if the Russians
will agree to amend the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty so as to
permit the United States to deploy very limited ground-based anti-missile
interceptors,(1) the United States is prepared to "help Russia complete a large
missile-tracking radar" in Siberia and "upgrade a Russian-operated radar" in
Kazakhstan.
Why Now?
For seven years, the Clinton-Gore Administration has assiduously delayed,
dumbed-down and otherwise sought to undermine the deployment of effective anti-
missile systems. As recently as last January, the National Security Council and
State Department repudiated Secretary of Defense William Cohen for his temerity
in suggesting that the threat now justified the deployment of missile defenses,
that the decision to deploy them would be taken and that the ABM Treaty would
not be allowed to stand in the way.(2)
The question occurs: Is the Administration's new-found desire to defend the
American people against missile attack genuine? Or is it but the latest in a
series of cynical maneuvers -- this time designed to protect only Vice
President Gore against a field of Republican presidential candidates who have
declared their determination to begin defending America from ballistic missile
attack as an immediate priority?
The answer may be determined by the Administration's attitude toward the
following:
Why pay the Russians to amend a treaty that no longer exists? A rigorous legal
analysis performed earlier this year for the Center for Security Policy by
former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Douglas J. Feith and former
Justice Department attorney George Miron has established that under
international legal practice and precedent, the ABM Treaty lapsed when the
other party -- the Soviet Union became extinct in 1991.(3) Neither the Clinton
Administration nor its supporters among the Nation's anti-defense, pro-arms
control elite have yet found persuasive grounds to rebut the Feith-Miron
study's central conclusion: We have spent the past eight years observing the
ABM Treaty not as a matter of legal necessity, but as one of political choice.
Before the U.S. taxpayer is asked to spend a plug-nickel -- let alone pouring
tens, if not hundreds, of additional millions of dollars into Russia's black
hole -- to build up the Kremlin's already quite formidable territorial anti-
missile defense system,(4) the Administration must explain why such bakshish is
required to purchase relief from a treaty that can no longer be in force. If
the Clinton-Gore team continues to be unable to explain how the ABM Treaty
could legally bind the United States, it may nonetheless wish to make a case
for improving Russia's ABM radar capabilities. But the Congress would then be
able to judge such an idea on its merits, not as a necessary precondition to
building the missile defenses that the legislative branch has made it U.S.
policy to deploy as soon "as technologically possible."
Why settle for less than the most effective, most flexible, earliest and least
expensive way to begin defending America? The Clinton Administration is seeking
the Russians' permission to deploy a National Missile Defense system that would
give the United States very limited protection against ballistic missile
attacks -- and some parts of the country probably none at all. It would
certainly not be useful in defending American forces or allies overseas.
According to the March 1999 report of the Heritage Foundation's blue-ribbon
Commission on Missile Defense,(5) the first ground-based site alone "would be
likely to cost about $25 billion and take eight-to-nine years to buildA
multi-site system could cost an additional $25 billion and take another five-to-
seven years to complete, depending on how many sites were to be built."
Even the Clinton Pentagon has belatedly begun to acknowledge the merits of an
alternative approach recommended repeatedly since 1995 by the Heritage
commission -- a sea-based missile defense built upon the 55 cruisers and
destroyers currently equipped with the AEGIS fleet air defense system.(6) Using
Navy data, the panel members estimated that the Nation could adapt these
existing assets and achieve an initial deployment of 650 missiles starting
within 3 years or so at an additional incremental cost of $2-3 billion
(expended over the next five years). The
[CTRL] Book: Bush was arrested for cocaine in 1972 (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- From: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/10/18/cocaine/index.html salon.com | Oct. 18, 1999 Book: Bush was arrested for cocaine in 1972 Texas author J.H. Hatfield claims the Republican front-runner did community service at a Houston center. By Anthony York and Craig Offman Oct. 18, 1999 | A new book by Texas author J.H. Hatfield claims that George W. Bush was arrested for cocaine possession in 1972, but had his record expunged with help from his family's political connections. In an afterword to his book "Fortunate Son: George W. Bush and the Making of an American President" (St. Martin's), Hatfield says he took a second look at the Bush cocaine allegations after a story in Salon reporting allegations that Bush did community service for the crime at the Martin Luther King Jr. Community Center in Houston's Third Ward. The center's executive director, Madgelean Bush (no relation to George W. Bush), had told Salon News and others that Bush did not do community service there, and the Bush campaign likewise denied the allegation. But the Texas governor had admitted to working at Houston's Project P.U.L.L. in 1972, and Hatfield says he began to wonder if that was actually the community service sentence. Hatfield says he confirmed those suspicions with three sources close to the Bush family he had cultivated while writing his biography, which publishes Wednesday. Bush's campaign denied Hatfield's allegation Monday. Hatfield quotes "a high-ranking advisor to Bush" who confirmed the story -- that Bush was arrested for cocaine possession in Houston in 1972, and had the record expunged by a judge who was "a fellow Republican and elected official" who helped Bush get off "with a little community service at a minority youth center instead of having to pick cotton on a Texas prison farm." Hatfield quotes a former Yale classmate who told him: "George W. was arrested for possession of cocaine in 1972, but due to his father's connections, the entire record was expunged by a state judge whom the older Bush helped get elected. It was one of those 'behind closed doors in the judges' chambers' kind of thing between the old man and one of his Texas cronies who owed him a favor ... There's only a handful of us that know the truth." Another source named only as "a longtime Bush friend" described the situation this way: "Say you get a D in algebra ... and now you're going to be required to repeat the class the following year, but your teacher says if you promise to be tutored during the summer by a friend of hers who's good in math, she'll change the D to a C. You spend a few hours a week during the summer vacation learning all about arithmetical operations and relationships, and then the teacher issues you a new report card, replacing the old one on file in the principal's office ... Something akin to that scenario is what happened with Bush in 1972." "This guy should have stuck with writing science fiction," said Bush campaign spokeswoman Mindy Tucker. "He's obviously trying to sell books with something absolutely untrue." Tucker pointed out that there were no Republican judges in Harris County until 1979. And that former President George Bush's office "has issued quite a strong statement about how inaccurate this is." The elder Bush's spokeswoman was not reachable for comment. Hatfield is a Texas reporter and syndicated columnist. He has previously published a biography of "Star Trek" actor Patrick Stewart. "Our lawyers looked at the manuscript with great care, it was thoroughly fact-checked," Thomas Dunne, publisher of the St. Martin's imprint that's publishing Hatfield's book. "This author is a pretty good digger. He used a lot more sources than Bob Woodward has in a while. I didn't ask for the names of the three anonymous sources he used in regard to the drug charges. His editor might have, I don't know. "Do I know for a fact these allegations are true? No, of course not. But I know that the author believes them to be true. He researched the book exhaustively and put it together with a variety of independent sources, including many who have never met each other." "Salon actually started this," Hatfield said in an interview Monday. "The book was finished. The galleys were in and ready to go to print. You guys did the story on the MLK Jr. center. "When I was working on the book, it's almost like being one of those women who sit around and make quilts all day. You've got all these patches of fabric. The Project P.U.L.L. year in 1972 did not fit his personality. It would be like that one piece on that quilt and you may not notice it. But if I made that quilt I'd be across the room going, 'That piece just doesn't fit. It bothers me.'" Hatfield says he, like other reporters, didn't pay much attention to the year Bush spent doing community service -- at a time when it was well-known he was drinking and carousing. "I fell for it just like everybody has. Kinda glossed over it -- 'That's
Re: [CTRL] On: The Dangers of Science (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/5/99 4:05:10 PM, you wrote: ON THE QUESTION OF THE DANGERS OF SCIENCE Lewis Wolpert (University College London, UK), in a "commentary" article, considers the classic question whether science is dangerous, the author making the following points: 1) The idea that knowledge is dangerous is deeply embedded in our culture. Indeed, Western literature is filled with images of scientists meddling with nature with disastrous results. Scientists are portrayed as a soulless group, unconcerned with ethical issues ___ Sir James Medawar, the Nobel Lauriate in Biology years ago for his work on immunity wrote a short book which everyone should read: "The Limits of Science." Science, as a methodology--is no more moral or immoral than mathematics, and for similar reasons. The methodology ranges from classification and identification all the way to experimentation. The adjective "scientific," is used in many senses, all of which are syncategormatical, and can be seen to have the loose notion of "objectivity," as compared to "subjectivity," which includes emotion, whim, impulse and all of the other mental states, which make human beings the rich source of thought and behavior that they are, said states, with all due respect to them, not appropriate to the methodology. The Scientific Methods, first proscribed by John Stuart Mill were essentially the design of Induction: The methods are those of Addition, Subtraction, Concommitant Variation, and the Combined Method. If a state of affairs labeled "A" is variously and sequentially acted upon by influences (B through G) let us say, and "A" becomes "AX" when and only when "C" acts upon it, then "C" can be said to be the "cause" of "X" You can derive the Method of Subtraction therefrom. when "A" is acted upon by "C" and can be seen to demonstrate some variation in intensity or quantity, or whatever, then the changes in "A" can be said to the result of some multiple of the degree of influence of "C." Another way of saying this is that the change in "A" can be said to be a function of change in "C" in some respect and may be expressed by a formula. This is the Method of Concommitant Variation. The term "Science" is often used to refer to that body of knowledge derived from an application of one or more of the Scientific Methods. to a particular field of Inquiry, such as the "Science of Biology." In the broadest sense, it is an organized and integrated body of knowledge with respect to a particular subject. The advantages of scientific methods is that they lend themselves to isolation of common denominators and therefore reduplicability, to some degree or another. This may be the result of manipuation of the variables, as in the experimental sciences, or by rigorous conditional observation with respect to frequency, periodicity, and the like, as is classically the case in Astronomy. There is an element of homogeneity that is a form of redupicity, as in Linnaeus' classification of Plants and Animals. The purposes and the subjects and the methods of scientific inquiry are a matter of Morality and Ethics, and they are, therefore a barometer of such; but they are no more responsible than is the messenger for the message. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Drug) War on the Constitution
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From http://www.cato.org/realaudio/drugwar/papers/duke.html
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The Drug War on the Constitution
By Steven Duke
Americas Longest War was declared by Richard Nixon more than a quarter of a
century ago. It has been a total failure in keeping drugs from entering the
country. Whether it has significantly contributed to the reduction of drug
abuse is debatable. But there is one arena in which victory has been achieved:
the Constitution has surrendered. If there is any phase of American life in
which the rights of the people have not diminished during the drug war, it has
escaped my notice. The anti-constitutional effects of the drug war have been so
relentlessly obvious for so long that a cynic might wonder whether the
Constitution is not the true enemy of the drug warriors.
THE FOURTH AMENDMENT: A DRUG WAR CASUALTY
Late at night last August, armed men shot their way into a Compton, California
home, set off a "flash-bang" grenade, then ran into a bedroom where Mario Paz,
a 64-year-old grandfather, and his wife had been sleeping. One of the gunmen
shot Paz in the back twice, killing him. They later discovered $10,000 in cash
which the couple had withdrawn from the bank that day, fearing Y2K. The gunmen
took the cash. The invaders were cops, looking for evidence against a former
next-door neighbor, suspected of being a drug dealer. No drugs or other
evidence was found.1
Such raids are standard procedure in most large cities and, except in the most
outrageous cases, they receive the approval of courts. Police can get search
warrants on the flimsiest of suspicion -- even the word of an anonymous
informant.2 In many cases, though, the police don't even bother to get a
warrant, since they are virtually unfettered by the risk of successful suits or
other sanctions, especially if they confine their warrantless invasions to poor
members of minority groups.
The Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution, which guarantees
against "unreasonable searches and seizures" and prohibits warrants on anything
but "probable cause," is a casualty of the drug war.3
Since the early 1970s, almost all the searches and seizures reaching the United
States Supreme Court have been approved. The Court has held, for example, that
a search on an invalid warrant does not require any remedy so long as the
police acted in "good faith."4 People may be stopped in their cars or in
airports, trains or buses, and submitted to questioning and dog sniffs.5 Police
may search an open field without warrant or cause, even if it has "no
trespassing" signs and the police trespass is a criminal offense.6 They may
also, as in Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four,7 conduct close helicopter
surveillance of our homes and backyards.8 They may also search our garbage cans
without cause.9 If they have "reasonable suspicion," the police may even search
our bodies. Mobile homes, closed containers within cars,10 as well as cars
themselves may be searched without a warrant.
The Court has also held that a suspected "balloon swallower" may, without
warrant or probable cause, be seized as she arrives from abroad at the airport,
strip-searched and ordered to remain incommunicado until she defecates over a
wastebasket under the watchful eye of matrons. Validating such an 18 hour
ordeal, Chief Justice Rehnquist listed other invasions that the Court had
upheld:
[F]irst class mail may be opened without a warrant on less than probable
causeAutomotive travelers may be stopped...near the border without
individualized suspicion even if the stop is based largely on ethnicity...and
boats on inland waters with ready access to the sea may be hailed and boarded
with no suspicion whatever.11
Those incursions, Chief Justice Rehnquist said, are responsive to "the
veritable national crises in law enforcement caused by smuggling of illegal
narcotics."12
Searches or seizures have been upheld on nothing more than suspicion that drugs
are being transported. Sufficient suspicion can be mustered by matching the
victim of the search with a few of the characteristics contained in secret
"drug courier profiles" that rely heavily upon ethnic stereotypes. As a result
of such profiles, hundreds of innocent people are subjected to indignities
every day.
Hispanics bear the major brunt of the profiles near our southern border, but
young African-Americans suffer from it wherever they go. An African-American
who drives a car with an out-of-state license plate is likely to be stopped
almost anywhere he goes in America. A survey of car stoppings on the New Jersey
turnpike revealed that although only 4.7% of the cars were driven by Blacks
with out-of-state plates, 80% of the drug arrests were of such people.13 The
Pittsburgh Press examined 121 cases in which travelers were searched and no
drugs were found. Seventy-seven percent of the people were black, Hispanic or
Asian.14 In Memphis, about 75 percent of the travelers stopped by drug police
in 1989 were black yet
[CTRL] Urine Luck ???
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From IntelelctualCapital.CoM
{{Begin}}
Issue of the Week: Business Is Good
by Bob Kolasky
Thursday, October 14, 1999
Comments: 80 posts
Peter O'Connell is proud to tell you he works in a "growth industry." A number
of his company's clients are nursing homes. His company provides services to
companies chasing government contracts and to a major luxury-boat builder. And
it frequently does business in schools.
O'Connell is in the booming high-tech field, correct? Or maybe he sells
pharmaceuticals? Perhaps, insurance? Think again. O'Connell's rapidly growing
endeavor is Rapid Drug Testing {{http://www.rapiddrug.com/}} , a drug-screening
business located in the Florida Keys.
For $22 a test, Rapid Drug Testing provides large businesses and small, as well
as schools, a full-service drug-screening process in order to test potential
employees, full-time workers and student-athletes, among others. The test,
according to O'Connell, Rapid Drug's vice president, "is just like a home-
pregnancy test."
The drug testing
industry is booming
It tests for marijuana, cocaine, opiates, PCP, amphetamines, methamphetamines,
barbituates, benzodiazepines and TCL. Results can be ascertained in three
minutes, and in the event of a positive -- which O'Connell says occurs 3% to 5%
of the time in the workplace -- Rapid Drug will provide access to a laboratory
to confirm the test results, as well as to a medical-review officer who will
determine whether the drug use is of the illicit nature.
As with much of the drug-testing industry, O'Connell's business is booming.
"Employers are motivated by the bottom line," O'Connell. says. "It makes hard-
dollar sense to have a drug-free workplace." He offers two reasons: First,
insurance companies that offer workmen's compensation insurance give a
significant discount to companies that have a testing policy in place. Second,
and more obviously, workers who are not on drugs are more effective -- and drug
tests keep workers off drugs.
Therefore, to O'Connell and others in this industry, drug testing is an
essential part of being in business.
Making the grade in the workplace
Businesses seem to agree. Spurred by claims (some say unsubstantiated) that
drug use costs businesses more than $100 billion a year in lost productivity,
many companies are embracing the practice of workplace drug testing. The
American Management Association reports that, as of 1996, about 81% of their
70,000 member companies had testing programs. And the recently released study,
"Worker Drug Use and Workplace Policies and Programs," compiled by the
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration
{{http://www.samhsa.gov/OAS/NHSDA/A-11/TOC.htm}} (SAMHSA) using data from the
1994 and 1997 National Household Survey on Drug Abuse found that, in 1997, 49%
of workers ages 18 to 49, reported being tested (up from 44% in 1994).
Workplace drug tests generally come in four types. The most prevalent are drug
tests as a condition of employment or that occur as part of the interview or
hiring process, in which corporations subject potential employees to drug
screening to ensure that they are not regular drug users.
Another frequently used approach to testing is post-incident testing, when,
following an accident, workplaces force the employee to undergo a drug test.
Less frequent, but still common, are random drug tests. And the rarest of drug
tests are those for cause, i.e. when an employee's performance has diminished
and an employer, suspecting drug use, tests the employee.
The testing regime, in all four forms, appears to be working. The SAMHSA survey
found that "there is a correlation of the increased frequency of drug testing
and the decreased presence of drug use," says Dr. Westley Clark, the director
of SAMHSA's Center for Substance Abuse Treatment.
Specifically, according to the survey, drug use among full-time workers ages 18
to 49 has dropped by more than half since 1985. That year, 17.5% of those
surveyed were using illicit drugs. By 1997, that number was down to 7.7%.
Clearly, something happened to cause such a significant shift, and the most
logical explanation is the proliferation of drug testing. In 1987, according to
the American Management Association report, 21.5% of member companies had
testing programs; by 1996, it was 81.1%. Patrick Dixon, the British author of
The Truth on Drugs, has written that the rush for employers to test their
employees has contributed a "spectacular success" to America's war on drugs.
But success is relative, and not everyone agrees with Dixon's assertion that
drug testing in the workplace has succeeded spectacularly. Drug use might be
down, but at what cost? Is it worth the price of trust between employer and
employee? Is it worth the loss of the civil liberties of employees -- drug
users or not? Is it worth the financial burden it places on corporations? And
if so, should the use of drug tests continue to proliferate in other aspects of
American
[CTRL] Not Newsworthy
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{{Begin}}
www.wsws.org
WSWS : News Analysis : North America
Speakers at US conference condemn sanctions against Iraq
By Shannon Jones
19 October 1999
Back to screen version
Some 275 delegates attended a national conference the weekend of October 15-17
at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor opposing the economic sanctions and
ongoing American bombing of Iraq. Speakers and panelists at the conference
included civil libertarians and experts from the academic community possessing
in-depth knowledge of the impact of sanctions on the Iraqi people, which by
some estimates have resulted in 1.4 million deaths.
The three-day gathering, called the National Organizing Conference on Iraq, was
sponsored by a coalition of religious, pacifist and Arab-American
organizations. While narrow in its political aims, essentially restricted to
pressuring the Democratic Party, the conference aired important information on
the human toll of the sanctions and exposed the lying and hypocritical
justification for the sanctions advanced by the Clinton administration.
Continuing its policy of blacking out any coverage of the impact of the
American-led sanctions, the national media refused to cover the conference. The
boycott extended even to the local paper, the Ann Arbor News, which sent a
message to conference organizers declining to send a reporter to the event on
the grounds that it wasn't newsworthy.
The conference included a showing of the new film Silent Weapon: The Embargo
Against Iraq, which contained footage recording the suffering of the Iraqi
people, including interviews with healthcare workers and moving scenes of
children dying from lack of essential medical supplies in Iraqi hospitals. The
documentary was made by the same film crew that produced the Oscar-winning
documentary Panama Deception.
Silent Weapon takes up the question of the Oil for Food program, under which
the United Nations has permitted limited amounts of food and medicine to be
shipped to Iraq in exchange for the sale of oil. It noted that 27 months passed
from the time of the initial agreement to the first actual shipment of food.
The monthly food allotment to Iraqi families under the program is below the
minimum level needed for subsistence and does not include meat or dairy
products.
The film further points out the inhuman and arbitrary policies of the American
and UN overseers of the program, who have blocked shipment of vital medicines
and supplies on the spurious grounds that they could serve a dual civilian and
military purpose. Among the medical supplies banned for sale to Iraq have been
gases needed in the manufacture of anesthesia and even hypodermic needles.
Panelists at the conference included experts in fields related to assessing the
economic, physical and psychological impact of sanctions. Among those attending
included Dr. Peter Pellet, Professor of Nutrition at the University of
Massachusetts; Dr. Talib Kafaji, a staff psychologist at St. Mary's Hospital in
Detroit; and Jim Lupton, a nuclear researcher and Assistant Professor in
Physics at the University of Michigan. Lupton led a panel titled "The Haunting
Legacy of Depleted Uranium and Gulf War Illnesses."
An important assessment of the impact of sanctions against Iraq put in
historical perspective was given by Dr. Abbas Al-nasrawi, professor of
Economics at the University of Vermont. In the 1950s Dr. Al-nasrawi worked at
the Ministry of Finance, the Central Bank of Iraq and the Grain Board in
Baghdad.
The impact of sanctions and the eight-year war against Iran have reduced Iraq,
a country once prosperous by the standards of the Middle East, to virtually the
level of war- and famine-ravaged countries in Africa.
The gross domestic product in Iraq, noted Dr. Al-nasrawi, stood at $54 billion
in 1980 at the beginning of the war against Iran. It had declined to $27.6
billion in 1987, due to the destruction of heavy industry, the death and injury
of 500,000 to 1 million soldiers and civilians and the wrecking of its oil
industry. By 1998, under the impact of sanctions, GDP had declined to just $9
billion. Per capita income now stands at less than $400 per year.
These figures tell the story of a society that has suffered a shift from
relative affluence to poverty that has manifested itself in increased deaths
... the general disintegration of the very fabric of life, said Dr. Al-
nasrawi.
During the Gulf War the US and its allies carried out over 100,000 sorties and
dropped more bombs on Iraq than fell during WWII, erasing 70 years of economic
progress.
The extent of the damage was noted by a UN mission. Nothing we had seen or
read prepared us for the level of destruction we witnessed ... most means of
modern life support were destroyed or rendered tenuous.'
The effect of the sanctions against Iraq are without historical precedent, said
Dr. Al-nasrawi. Exports declined from $12 billion in 1989, before the
imposition of the sanctions, to just $351
[CTRL] (Fwd) ZNet Commentary / Oct 19 / Cynthia Peters / Class Politi
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Michael Albert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here then is today's ZNet Commentary... - Class Politics in America: A Fashionable Consumer Item? By Cynthia Peters I spent $44.00 recently to see Dario Fo's farce about hunger, free-market injustice, sexism, and class injustice at the American Repetory Theater in Harvard Square. Dario Fo, "who emulates the jesters of the Middle Ages in scourging authority and upholding the dignity of the downtrodden," won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1997 for his ability to "open our eyes to abuses and injustices in society." "We Won't Pay! We Won't Pay!" is the story of Italian housewives' rebellious response to spiraling inflation. Unable to afford even the most basic necessities, they spontaneously revolt and simply take what they need from the store, many of them stuffing the food in their dresses so that they look pregnant. What follows is a slapstick two hours of political satire about the nature of work, authority, overbearing husbands, and women in the final stages of "pregnancy" who leak pickle juice and olives instead of amniotic fluid. The play miraculously meshes great comedy and class politics. Although set in Italy in 1974, the ART production weaves in contemporary U.S. references - including out-of-character impersonations of Nixon, Reagan and Clinton - that work to jolt the audience out of its reverie and remind U.S. theater-goers of the relevance and urgency of these same issues today. As the Nobel Committee said, "Fo's strength is in the creation of texts that simultaneously amuse, engage and provide perspectives. As in commedia dell'arte, they are always open for creative additions and dislocations, continually encouraging the actors to improvise, which means that the audience is activated in a remarkable way." So, I wonder, how was the Cambridge audience activated that night? At intermission, a well-manicured woman wearing tasteful jewelry and expensive clothes, tapped a roll of dollar bills on the bar. There was a long line. She exuded impatience. Finally, the bartender - dressed in an ill-fitting red vest that was part of his ART uniform and a symbol of his "place" in the theater - asked her what she wanted. "Bottled water," was the reply. "We're all out," he answered. Long pause. "That's impossible," she said, still tapping the bills, "I've come here many times and you've never been out of bottled water before!" It was a ludicrous statement, and the bartender let it hang in the air for a while. Maintaining a neutral expression, he then pointed to where she could find the water fountain. I watched this well-off member of the audience bring all her class privilege to bear on the situation. She was outraged. She wanted bottled water. She was accustomed to getting what she wanted. She was willing to PAY for what she wanted. She did not seem to be willing to take no for an answer. The irony of her actions seemed to completely escape this woman. While inside the theater, the story unfolds of desperately hungry people demanding their rights and their dignity from the powers that be, outside the theater at the concession stand, an upper class woman demands overpriced bottled water from a worker with no power. The episode at the concession stand underscored what was discordant about the whole night. What was this play doing at the high-brow ART? Who were the attendees, and what did they make of the radical politics, the explicit descriptions of rote deadening factory work and powerlessness on the job? I believe that theater has the power to affect people and prick their consciousness and even inspire them to action, but on this night I wondered if theater wasn't more of an opportunity for wealthy people to consume a point of view. The play takes place in Italy, after all. Far away and a long time ago. And the show's sidesplitting comedy makes the evening extremely enjoyable despite what reviewers considered the annoying preachiness of the political message. Ed Siegel in the Boston Globe felt that the "message" of the play distracted from its entertainment value. "You may not rise to your feet yelling `Vive La Revolution' at the end . . . A simple "Bravo! Brava!" would be entirely appropriate." Like the recent expensively produced coffee table book version of The Communist Manifesto, "We Won't Pay! We Won't Pay!" came across, at least in this particular production at this particular location, as an opportunity to dabble in but keep your distance from the "other" class. It reminds me of the Gap, selling pricey versions of construction workers' clothes, while at the same time featuring models in vests with the caption, "Everyone in vests." Perhaps "everyone" who shops at the Gap does invest. And they wear pants with hammer loops while they do it. Oscar award winning lead actress Marisa Tomei seems to have been affected by Antonia, the character she
[CTRL] FrankenFoods: Take Action on GE Foods
-Caveat Lector- MASSIVE Thanks to Turningpoint.org and the New York Times for being the first to break the SILENCE on the dangers of FrankenFoods (tm) to the people of the U.S. !! There is a great printable copy of this full page ad on the website. Unfortunately, it prints out v-e-r-y tiny compressed text, so you'll need to make a stop by Kinko's to get it enlarged before posting it and passing it on. Recommend printing enlarging it, and taking it with you and giving it to the store manager (mebbe even mailing one to the "corporate office" of large stores) everywhere you buy food. Check out the partial list of biotech foods which include Enfamil and Similac baby formula, many breakfast cereals, "GARDENBURGER" and other "healthy"/"natural" foods... also notice that 50% of soybeans planted in U.S. and 33% of corn planted were FRANKENfood (tm) varieties. (not to mention Canola oil, potato, squash, tomato, papaya) -- if you are using non-organic products containing corn (oil, flour, sweetner, etc.) or soy (oil, flour, lecithin, protein, etc.) YOU are being used as a guinea pig (or izzat laboratory rat?) in the quest for better profits through INSANE technology backed up by government corruption. The fact that ONLY THE U.S. (due to unsavory political relationships between death-merchants such as Monsanto and FDA other government agencies up to and including the U.S. Department of State) has a policy against mandatory labelling of FRANKENfood (tm) means that the U.S. agriculture industry will be struggling to sell the BULK of this year's FrankenFood crop to YOU- hidden from your view, thanks to Federal corruption. On a lighter note- I've been using the term FrankenFood (tm) for quite a while now, it just occurred to me to do a domain name search (taken but unused) and a trademark search (application pending) I wonder who will be attempting to trademark this comical useful term which has seen widespread use on the Internet? -never mind grin just read the material, write a few letter if you will, and do what you can to get this information spread around ! best wishes, Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/ncf http://www.ioa.com/~davehart http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/issues http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/issues/huldaclark.html -Original Message- From: Anuradha Mittal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 4:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Take Action on GE Foods Great opportunity to take action on GE foods Genetic Engineering Action Alert! Call for Labeling! The following advertisement is in today's (Mon. Oct. 18) New York Times: Unlabeled, untested and you're eating it. In secret, genetically engineered foods are showing up on American grocery shelves. Though other countries now label biotech food, the U.S. FDA still does not require labels or safety tests. Don't you have the right to know what's in your food? And if it's safe for your family? (You can find a copy of the ad in the front section of today's New York Times, or download it from the Turning Point Project's website at http://www.turnpoint.org.) CALL TO ACTION: *Cut out the Turning Point Project ad from the New York Times and bring it to your grocery store manager. Ask that the store label all genetically engineered foods, and that they require food companies to do the same. *Cut out another copy of the ad and mail it with a letter to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA, the agency responsible for labeling your foods as genetically engineered). In the letter, mention your support for the lawsuit asking for stronger safety testing and mandatory labeling of all genetically engineered foods. Mention the following case name and docket number: Alliance for Bio-Integrity v. Shalala, Docket Number 98-1300 (CKK). Mail to: Jane Henney, Commissioner Food Drug Administration 5600 Fisher Lane, Room 1471 Rockville, MD 20857 *Contact the EPA in support of the lawsuit that asks the agency to take GMO crops that contain Bt (corn, cotton, and potatoes) off the market until further testing is done to evaluate their environmental risks and potential threats to organic farmers. Mention the following case name and docket number: Greenpeace International v. Browner, Docket Number 99-389 (LFO). Mail to: Carol M. Browner, Administrator Environmental Protection Agency 401 M St., SW, Room W1200 Washington, DC 20460 *The following companies were among those listed as having products that tested positive for genetically engineered ingredients. Please call them and express your concern. Nabisco (Snackwells granola bars): 1-800-8NABNET (1-800-862-2638) General Mills (Total Corn Flakes, Bac-Os bacon bits): 1-(800) 328-1144 Heinz (Heinz 2 Baby Cereal): 1-800-USA-BABY (1-800-872-2229) Kellogg's (Corn Flakes): 1-800-962-1413 Nestle (Carnation Alsoy Infant formula): 1-818 549 6818 Visit www.turnpoint.org for more phone numbers, or to get a
