[CTRL] Feds and Agri-Business As Usual
-Caveat Lector- "Department of Agriculture inspectors are accused of routinely taking bribes from food wholesalers. The inspectors' unfavorable ratings forced growers to reduce the asking price of produce, thereby increasing the profit margin of wholesalers." Food Inspectors Accused of Bribery By LARRY NEUMEISTER .c The Associated Press NEW YORK (AP) - Small farmers nationwide were victimized by eight federal inspectors who accepted thousands of dollars in bribes to lower grades on produce at a huge wholesale market in New York City, authorities said Wednesday. The eight current and former inspectors were among 21 people charged with racketeering and bribery in the marketing of fruit and vegetables at the Hunts Point Terminal Market in the Bronx. An investigation named ``Operation Forbidden Fruit'' revealed a two-decade long bribery scheme. Indictments accused 13 owners and employees of 12 fruit and vegetable wholesalers with federal crimes. The Department of Agriculture inspectors are accused of routinely taking bribes from wholesalers in exchange for finding that certain fruits and vegetables delivered to the market were not of the quality promised in contracts. The findings allowed wholesalers to demand that growers charge thousands of dollars less, authorities said. ``The benefits to the wholesalers were obvious. They were routinely getting Grade A produce at Grade B prices and it was a safe bet they were not passing the benefits to the consumers,'' said FBI Assistant Director Lewis Schiliro. Some of the inspectors made more than $100,000 a year in bribes to supplement annual salaries of $38,000 to $48,000, Schiliro said. If convicted of racketeering, they could face up to 20 years in prison. The wholesalers could face up to 15 years in prison on the bribery charges. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Stockbrokers Executed, Gangland Style
-Caveat Lector- Stock Promoters Found Dead in N.J. By MARTHA RAFFAELE .c The Associated Press COLTS NECK, N.J. (AP) - Two men who promoted penny stocks via the Internet were shot to death gangland-style inside a mansion in a crime that has baffled investigators. ``This was an execution. Reasons, we're not certain yet,'' Monmouth County Prosecutor John Kaye said. Friends found Alain Chalem, 41, and Mayir Lehmann, 37, face down early Tuesday on the marble floor of the estate Chalem shared with his girlfriend and her 13-year-old son. Chalem had been shot in the chest and five times in the head, while Lehmann, who lived in Woodmere, N.Y., was shot in the leg and once in the back of the head. Their cellular telephones were inches from their hands. The men promoted stocks for investors on a Web site operated from the mansion. Investigators said they had no idea if the trading had anything to do with their slayings. And Kaye said there was no sign of burglary. The prosecutor said he had no suspects and no murder weapon. ``In this county, there are about a dozen homicides a year and they are not `whodunits,''' Kaye said. ``This is an unusual killing.'' Chalem had lived on the 16-acre estate for seven or eight months with Kimberly Scarola, 39, and her son. Ms. Scarola had gone to Florida, several days before the shootings, and her son was with her ex-husband, Kaye said. Friends found the wrought-iron gates to the home open, the front door unlocked and no signs of forced entry. The white brick home with a towering fountain is in a wealthy community of 8,500 about an hour from New York City. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NWO: The Fate of Labor in the EU
-Caveat Lector- ``We're the leading country in Europe,' said former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl, 'yet we're at the rear' in terms of unemployment and economic growth. "Chancellor Shroeder's austerity plan for next year calls for deep cuts in employee benefits, pensions and unemployment insurance. "In recent days, thousands of working people --everyone from farmers to firefighters-- have taken to the streets in protest ..." Meanwhile, "Tens of thousands of demonstrators marched through Paris to protest capitalism, under a banner that read ``Together against unemployment and layoffs, for real employment,'' calling for employees' rights over employers' rights." Schroeder Govt. Criticized Harshly By PAUL GEITNER .c The Associated Press BERLIN (AP) - German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder marked his government's first anniversary Wednesday not with celebratory words but rather a new bid to rescue his unpopular austerity budget from mounting opposition. The usually media-friendly Schroeder stayed largely out of the public eye following a morning Cabinet meeting, at which the subject of the anniversary didn't even come up, according to government spokeswoman Charima Reinhardt. Opposition conservatives were not so shy, accusing the government of failing to set out a clear direction for a country facing more than 10 percent unemployment and increased global competition. ``That was a lost year for Germany,'' former Chancellor Helmut Kohl, whom Schroeder ousted last year, told ProSieben television. ``We're the leading country in Europe, and it doesn't make me happy that we're at the rear'' in such areas as unemployment and economic growth. Conservatives accused Schroeder of shifting course again Wednesday with a Cabinet decision to restructure an unpopular austerity budget for next year to keep the opposition from blocking the package in parliament's upper house. The plan calls for $17 billion in cuts targeting some of the welfare state's most sacred cows, including pensions and unemployment benefits. Everyone from farmers to firefighters has taken to the streets of Germany's just-restored capital of Berlin in recent days to protest. While the ruling coalition of Social Democrats and Greens has a comfortable majority in the lower house, recent state-election losses - blamed on the proposed budget cuts - have strengthened the opposition's hand in the upper house, where the states are represented. So Finance Minister Hans Eichel, after insisting no changes would be made, announced the plan would be restructured to allow $15 billion of the proposed cuts to be passed without the upper house, where Germany's 16 states are represented. Included in that would be the controversial two-year slowdown on pension increases, prompting opposition leaders to cry foul. Eichel, arguing that the cuts were needed to ensure Germany's economic future, said the government wanted to prevent the conservatives from seeking to score political points with retirees by blocking the budget. ``We'll get everything through that we can without the Bundesrat,'' he said. ``We don't want the tug of war to drag on into next year.'' He said the remaining cuts - mostly in rent subsidies - were not being dropped, but would be negotiated separately. Eichel said the restructuring, approved Wednesday in the Cabinet, was designed to demonstrate to financial markets Germany's commitment to controlling spending and reducing its huge budget deficit. The government argues the package will lubricate the German economy and help bring down unemployment. But old guard Social Democrats view Schroeder's combination of cuts in the welfare state with $4.4 billion in corporate tax relief as a betrayal of the party's working-class roots. Disillusionment with Schroeder's attempts to steer the traditionally left-leaning party toward the political center have sent the government's popularity plummeting in opinion polls. In brief statements on nightly news programs, Schroeder conceded his coalition had faced difficulties with internal disagreements, but said he was still ready to fight. ``The situation is much better than the opinion people have of us, so we have to bring the opinion in line,'' Schroeder said. Thousands Decry French Unemployment By JEAN-MARIE GODARD .c The Associated Press PARIS (AP) - Tens of thousands of leftist demonstrators marched through Paris on Saturday to protest unemployment and capitalism in a rally called by France's Communist Party. Robert Hue, the leader of the French Communist Party, said in Saturday's edition of the France Soir daily that the protest was aimed at fighting layoffs and ``the thoughtless, damaging pursuit of capitalism.'' About 32,000 protesters showed up for the march, police said. Hue had hoped to attract about 50,000. The Communists hoped to mobilize their supporters with the rally. But the demonstration reflected divisions within the Socialist-led government, in which the
[CTRL] State Legislator Defrauded Federal Govt
-Caveat Lector- Florida State Senator Pleads Guilty By TRACY FIELDS .c The Associated Press MIAMI (AP) - A state senator pleaded guilty to conspiracy in a Medicare fraud case and must resign from the Legislature, where he has served for 15 years. State Sen. Alberto Gutman and his wife, Marci, were charged last year as the secret owners of companies that billed Medicare for health care services that were not performed, sometimes for clients who did not exist. The Miami Republican maintained his innocence until his plea deal was announced Tuesday in the second week of his federal trial. Prosecutors said Gutman and his wife collected at least $2 million from fraudulent billings while he served in the Legislature. Gutman, 40, declined comment Tuesday. He is expected to be given a two-year prison term at his sentencing Jan. 20. As a convicted felon, Gutman must relinquish his Senate seat. Gov. Jeb Bush will set a special election once Gutman's resignation letter is received, a spokeswoman said. Mrs. Gutman, 40, pleaded guilty last month to a misdemeanor Medicare fraud charge and was sentenced to three years' probation and six months' home confinement. She also agreed to pay $15,000 in restitution. The Gutmans have two children. The Gutmans were indicted along with 23 other defendants in the investigation of Mederi of Dade County Inc., a home health care provider. Investigators said they found no legitimate billings among $15 million worth of Mederi claims. The company and its owner were acquitted in May; a physical therapist was convicted. Prosecutors said Gutman used voter lists from his district to telemarket his home health-care companies and that checks from the enterprise were deposited in his personal accounts. Defense attorneys said key witnesses were trying to protect themselves by testifying against an innocent public official. Gutman was elected to the state House in 1984 and moved on to the state Senate in 1992. He narrowly won another four-year term while under indictment last November. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Anti Indian Comments by Bush in Syracuse, NY
From: Little Sparrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:01:31 -0400 FYI: Anti Indian Comments by Bush in Syracuse, NY All of you who are toying with the idea of voting republican this or next year read this and go to Pechanga website for more on these stories. BUSH IS ANTI-INDIAN folks! Of course is he wields the same power now as his father did, before he was 'voted' President, it will not matter if every person in the country votes agaisnt him because the media barrons control the voting machines! Victor Rocha's California Indian Gaming E-News Digest Monday, October 25th, 1999 Bush comment on Indian issues draws comment The GOP presidential contender says he considers state law supreme. A 22-word comment on Native American issues earned presidential candidate George W. Bush support from some Central New York landowners and annoyed some Native Americans. While admitting he knew little about Indian land claims in New York, Bush had this to say during a campaign stop Monday in Syracuse: "My view is that state law reigns supreme when it comes to the Indians, whether it be gambling or any other issue." Bush-Lite Made with Less Leadership, Less Experience, More Right-Wing Flavor Forget about George W. Bush's faux split with Dick Armey and Tom DeLay. The real fight is between Bush and James Madison. Campaigning in New York this week, the five-year Texas governor tried to answer one question about local Indian issues, saying, "My view is that state law reigns supreme when it comes to the Indians, whether it be gambling or any other issue." www.pechanga.net Reprinted under the Fair Use http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html doctrine of international copyright law. There be a fly in my soup.
[CTRL] Did White House Smear FBI Agent
-Caveat Lector- Subj: Re: [CTRL] Did White House Smear FBI Agent Date: 10/27/1999 6:08:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: A HREF="mailto:PRUDYL"PRUDYL/A To: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A In a message dated 10/27/1999 7:45:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's your business, but DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME! I wasn't speaking for you. Still now I'm curious. Who would you allow to see your FBI file? Can you control possible perusal? Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] TV Heads Up (UK)
-Caveat Lector- Thursday 26th October 1999 Programmes that might be of interest tonight on Terrestrial TV (Satellite or Cable *NOT* included ) ITV (3) @ 21:00hrs Eye-Spy examines the role of CCTV in life. + Channel-4 @ 21:30hrs Dispatches (New Series) Follows the Paedophile Lennie Smith + BBC-2 @ 21:30hrs Horizon (New Series) First part of two exploring the origins of Atlantis: each 30 mins Part one is 'Pro' - Part two (next week)is 'Con' ++ Channel-4 @ 22:00hrs A Secret History of Civilization - Pornography BBC1 @ 12:05-01:05 Last in Series of "The Major Years" 55mins DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Tales of the Underclass
-Caveat Lector- In most American cities, a large percentage of the working poor see most of their income go into the hands of real estate speculator landlords. In San Francisco, yours truly has to work 40 hours a week at a very demanding high-stress, "above-average" pay job just to be able --with not one penny left over--.to pay my RENT, for a modest studio apartment in a bad neighborhood. (My wife has to do the same so that we can EAT as well.) So why not eliminate the middleman altogether and send us back to the plantation, where we slaves are forced to work twelve hours a day, seven days a week, for Massa Boss, for the "privilege" of room and board? Hell, that system works just fine in Red China, the envy of all capitalist eyes ... NYC Wants Homeless People To Work By TIMOTHY WILLIAMS .c The Associated Press NEW YORK (AP) - Nica Person, a 26-year-old mother of three who lives in a Bronx homeless shelter, can't believe what she's hearing from New York policy makers. A plan to go into effect this winter would require her and thousands of other homeless parents to work in exchange for shelter - or possibly have their children placed in foster care. ``There are parents who have four kids. They can't get day care to work. Who's going to pay for the day care?'' she asked. A storm of angry reaction greeted Republican Mayor Rudolph Giuliani's announcement Tuesday that the city will seek to extend its welfare policy to 4,600 families in the shelter system. Eventually, 7,000 single adults in homeless shelters will also likely be required to work. ``Typical Republican simpleton logic,'' said Greg Bowens, a spokesman for Detroit Mayor Dennis Archer, a Democrat. ``Jesus was born in a manger. They didn't turn Mary away. Would Joseph and Mary get a spot in New York today? Amazing.'' New York is believed to be the only major U.S. city to impose a work-for-shelter requirement. The city already requires welfare recipients to work to get their benefits. New York operates the largest, most comprehensive shelter system in the nation for a homeless population it estimates at 23,000. In other parts of the country, shelters are often run and financed by private charities - some of which require people to seek work. The mayor's plan stunned advocates for the homeless. ``This could literally put hundreds, if not thousands of people on the streets,'' said Patrick Markee, a policy adviser for New York City's Coalition for the Homeless. Maria Foscarinis, executive director of the National Law Center on Homelessness and Poverty in Washington D.C., said the policy appears to be unique in the nation, adding that it is ``horribly misguided.'' City Council Speaker Peter Vallone, a Democrat, said Giuliani's move is ``a throwback to the days of Dickens. We cannot tolerate this morally or legally.'' Vallone acknowledged, however, that the City Council has little power to stop the policy. The new requirements are supported by 1997 state regulations aimed at moving the homeless to work and ultimately to self-sufficiency. Last February, an appeals court ruled against the objections of advocates for the homeless. Giuliani, who laughed when told that Vallone compared his policy to something out of Charles Dickens' novels, defended his plan. ``The apostles of dependency want to bring us back to where we had 1.1 million people on welfare and a city where dependency was the rule, working the exception,'' he said. ``I think this is the highest form of compassion and love - to help people to help themselves.'' Giuliani has made welfare reform a centerpiece of his administration. The work-for-a-bed rule is similar to requirements city welfare offices have used since 1995 to move more than 400,000 people off public assistance. Already, many homeless parents clean parks or do other jobs in exchange for welfare benefits while their children are in shelter day care centers. However, thousands of families are on a waiting list for child care. It remains unclear what work will be required of homeless people with physical or mental disabilities, though city policy requires those seeking exemption from work requirements to undergo medical exams every few months. Person said the jobs the city sends people to are often menial, not the type of jobs that could provide a decent living. ``That just puts me right back to welfare,'' she said. ``You have to give people bigger goals, bigger dreams.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL
Re: [CTRL] Prohibitions
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/27/1999 6:39:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The drug use, in a legal setting, would cause no problems other than to the user, which is the case in alcohol consumption. We could still have laws against operating a vehicle while under the influence of drugs, just as we do in the case of alcohol. I wonder how long the American people are going to put up with government officials making saps out of them. That's what they're doing. They feed you propaganda and then extract billions of dollars from your pockets to waste chasing people who are simply supplying a product for which there is a demand. Well, every word of this is true, but it's too sensible. Nothing sensible gets listened to in this country. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cash and the 'Carry Tax'
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/27/1999 7:12:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "The magnetic strip could visibly record when a bill was last withdrawn from the banking system. A carry tax could be deducted from each bill upon deposit according to how long the bill was in circulation," Goodfriend wrote in a recent presentation to a Federal Reserve System conference in Woodstock, Vermont. The 34-page paper argues a carry tax will discourage "hoarding" currency, deter black market and criminal activities, and boost economic stability during deflationary periods when interest rates hover near zero. It says new technology finally makes such a scheme feasible. Well aren't we lucky? Welcome to l984 and beyond. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Heavenly Osiris and Earthly Isis? No doubt.
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In a message dated 99-10-27 11:17:07 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In the Germanic languages, the moon is male (cf MHG 'der Mond') and the sun
is female ('die Sonne'); I believe this is echoed in a number of other IE
language groups. Determining to what extent the dichotomy reflects religious
doctrine/practice is extremely difficult, particularly when, as with the
German and their cousins the Norse, the myths were only collected and
recorded well after the conversion to Christianity and are thus in many
cases closer in spirit to "fairy tales" than to true myths. But see Jaan
Puhvel, *Comparative Mythology*, and J.P. Mallory, *In Search of the
Indo-Europeans*; see also Mircea Eliade, *A History of Religious Thought*,
vol. 1.
The same in Latvian, my father's native language, and I seem to recall that
the Letts --if not the oldest, the SECOND oldest group of Indo-Europeans to
survive culturally intact into the Middle Ages-- honored a moon god and a sun
goddess. If I have enough time off the job to consult my hefty Sanskrit
dictionary (which includes etymologies), I'll report what the respective
genders of sun and moon are in that ancient IE language.
All to show that, at least ORIGINALLY, both Near Eastern and I-E cultures
shared a tendency to reverse modern sex-roles, in terms of the gender of
planetary deities.
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: ScienceWeek - New Reports October 9, 1999
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/27/1999 7:28:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Biological Terrorism On Two Cultures Forty Years Later Astrophysics: On the Epoch of Galaxy Formation Development of Neural Pathways in Children and Adults Medical Biology: G Protein Diseases Pharmaceuticals in the Third World: Profits vs. Poverty These reports are from recent issues of ScienceWeek. They can be accessed without charge from the main web page in the panel to the right of the SW table of contents: http://www.scienceweek.com Thanks Kris, for some reason or other this is really the first time I've gone into this. I can't believe the attitude of the pharmaceutical companies whose real motto seems to be "Pay Up or Die, Dog." I guess there's no real cruelty involved. It's more lack of interest. If there's anything to the idea of karma, the world must be heading for bad times. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] People Who Have Died After Being on the Art Bell Show
-Caveat Lector- Consider this: everyone who has ever been cursed, has subsequently died! Gosh! That's amazing. Do you think there's a connection? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Mysteries of Eleusis
-Caveat Lector- The great-great-great-etc-granddaddy of "secret societies" -- the "Mystery" cults. Quoting from source documents, with a commentary describing the communal rites practiced by Greeks much like Christians during high holy days in their churches. http://www.san.beck.org/Eleusis-3.html The Lesser Mysteries had as their central character Hercules, who in Greek RELIGION as opposed to "myth" went through a "catharsis" resembling the saga of Gilgamesh. The Greater Mysteries, celebrated at the autumn equinox (when the sun was in the sign of Virgo, near the star Spica, "sheaf of wheat"), were dedicated to the grain-goddess Demeter and her daughter Persephone, abducted to the underworld in a roles-reversed updated version of the Sumerian myth of Inanna and Dumuzi and Egyptian myth of Isis and Osiris (the "resurrected" one, symbolically reborn in the person of infant Horus). The Mysteries were in the hands of the King, alongside the hereditary mystagogue, and the main officers in charge of the rites were chosen from families of aristocratic lineage. Indeed, the protagonist of the Mysteries seems originally to have been the King himself, who like Hercules wore a "royal" solar lion-skin while others wore the skins of SHEEP. The priestesses of the Greater Mysteries lived chaste, secluded communal lives, just like nuns in the Church. The King-initiate, like the Sumerian "lugal" (land-lord, trustee of the soil), may have been symbolically wed to, "slain" by (see myth of Hercules and bride Deianira's "poisoned" cloak, which caused his death -- and ascent to Olympus), and "resurrected" by the Goddess, as with the older Near Eastern Inanna and Dumuzi, explaining the link between Lesser and Greater Mysteries, the "noble" and "popular." The ultimate source of the Christianized fable of King Arthur, Merlin, Morgana le Fay, and the Holy Grail is --beyond early Celtic forerunners-- most likely the ancient GREEK Mysteries, which in turn were certainly derived from more ancient Near Eastern myth. Keep in mind the fact that the "classic" Mysteries --Orphic, Pythagorean, etc-- were products of a more "philosophical" (and less "spiritual") era in Greek history, not much earlier than 600 BC (the time of the Ionian philosophers who migrated from Asia Minor), while the Mysteries described herein are something like a thousand years older, going back to the first incursions of Indo-European peoples into the western Mediterranean. Forget what you may THINK you know about "Mystery Cults" and ponder the picture painted in this website from the careful study of very old source materials. Enjoy! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] People Who Have Died After Being on the Art Bell Show
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-10-28 07:18:24 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Consider this: everyone who has ever been cursed, has subsequently died! Gosh! That's amazing. Do you think there's a connection? Nonsense! SEX (resulting in conception) remains the number one cause of death. In its tireless efforts to find a cure, science has now determined that the sex-virus is genetically transmitted. In other words, the predisposition to death is hereditary! Are YOU a carrier of this genetic defect? To know for sure, just try this simple test: Ask yourself, did your parents have any children? If the answer is no, you're NOT. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DEA Hemp Seizure: For the birds
-Caveat Lector- Subject: DEA Hemp Seizure: For the birds Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 7:19 PM THE DETROIT METRO TIMES Detroit, Michigan October 27, 1999 Metro Beat Seizure: For the birds By Gretchen A. Van-Monette The U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency has flexed its zero tolerance muscles in an effort to protect Americans from THC the psychoactive component of marijuana by halting a truckload of sterile, and, for all intents and purposes, THC-free hemp seeds on their way to a birdseed manufacturer in Baltimore. Seventeen tons of seed have been sitting in a metro Detroit warehouse since the shipment from Canada was seized in early August. Meanwhile, the Canadian and United States hemp industries are left to wonder what impact this action will have on their business. Jean Laprise, owner of Kenex Ltd. in Chatham, Ontario, and producer of the confiscated hemp seeds, is flabbergasted by this entanglement in an otherwise smooth re-emergence of the Canadian hemp industry. Canada endorsed the growing of industrial hemp almost a year and a half ago. Since then, Kenex has been delivering shipments of hemp seeds, cosmetic- and food-grade oil and horse bedding to customers across the United States. U.S. Customs first demanded that Kenex turn over its records and recall shipments as far back as 1998, or face a fine in excess of $500,000. This is impossible, laments Laprise in a recent New York Times article, because the products have been used. How can you recall hemp seeds, an essential ingredient in the popular Nutiva hemp bar, that were already consumed? Conditions for release of the seeds, valued at $25,000, have apparently now changed. According to Laprise, the DEA notified him last week that in exchange for releasing the hemp seeds, Kenex must pay a seizure cost between $5,000 and $10,000 and sign a hold harmless agreement, which basically says the government agencies did nothing wrong and they cant be sued at a later date. But even then, Laprise says Kenex has no guarantee future shipments will not be stopped at the border. Those are unacceptable conditions that we are being forced to accept, under protest, Laprise says. The DEA gave the orders to U.S. Customs officials to seize the shipment, based on the notion that industrial hemp seeds may be contaminated with THC, the component necessary to get high from smoking marijuana. Canadian grade industrial hemp is regulated to 0.3 percent THC; commercial pot generally has 8 percent to 20 percent THC. In a statement, the DEA asserted the U.S. Controlled Substance Act of 1937 defines hemp as marijuana. Hemp advocates maintain that sterilized hemp seeds are specifically excluded from Schedule I classification of marijuana in the Controlled Substance Act. Industrial hemp seeds are also specifically highlighted in NAFTA as a legal U.S. import, hemp advocates say. Industrial hemp has been imported for years from such countries as Britain, France, Germany, the Soviet Union, and lately Canada. Because hemp production is outlawed in the United States, importation is the only option available to American companies that use hemp products. This move by the DEA is raising a ruckus in government circles in Canada. In a letter to Commissioner Raymond Kelley of the United States Customs Service, Canadian Minister Douglas Waddel expressed concern: The treatment of this company, and in particular the lack of due process and the failure by the U.S. to follow normal Customs procedures, are matters of particular concern to Canadian authorities. Moreover, Canada considers this seizure action to be contrary to U.S. NAFTA and WTO obligations. Some hemp entrepreneurs worry this incident will stymie the industrial hemp movement. Don Wirtshafter, founder of the Ohio Hempery, is quite disturbed about what happened. The (DEA) has shaken all confidence in the hemp and the hemp food industry, says Wirtshafter. We were just at the point of success and they knocked our legs out from under us.(END) http://www.metrotimes.com/20/04/Metrobeat/metrobet.html#2 om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to
Re: [CTRL] People Who Have Died After Being on the Art Bell Show
-Caveat Lector- You know what else? Everyone who has ever been BORN, has died, except for those who are still alive! WOW! __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cycles of Civilization - As below is above?
-Caveat Lector- Dear Goat and Bob, Thanks for making my day. I laughed so hard I almost died. Keep up the good work!!! This went in my MORALE folder immediately! Cheers... Eric At 11:25 AM 10/27/99 -0400, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- LMAOAPIMP! (I take it Magister Trizmagizmo is second cousin to Axolotl Qwertyuiop, the printer's devil...) -Original Message- From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 4:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Cycles of Civilization - As below is above? -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-10-26 13:37:34 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The formula, as I learned it, is "As above, so below; as below, so above; for the accomplishment of the One Thing." Microcosm and Macrocosm reflect *each other*--this is the very basis of ceremonial magic, whereby the magician's actions both mirror and influence the actions of the gods/demons/entities one is seeking to control. Yet often it seems, in the words of Herman Trismagizmo, "as above, so what?" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ...further on Tesla Electric / Dennis Lee....
-Caveat Lector- I wasn't really looking forward to driving all the way to Charlotte to see a show that kinda looks like sales-hype and was almost relieved that Daniel gave a thumbs-down. Now from Fred, the suggestion that it's important to remain at the "show" until the end ... this is another big red flag: ( "danger, danger. hype alert!" ) But anyhow last night I saw a poster in my local health-food store- the show is coming HERE, so I'll take a look at it. Quick research: This guy's gone to LOTS of trouble to put forth his viewpoint (which seems pretty negative.) http://www.syc.org/e/z/ http://www.voicenet.com/~eric/dennis.html another guy who sounds less like he's got an agenda and more like he's informed: http://www.eagle-research.com/ says this about Lee: http://keelynet.com/interact/archive/1165.htm Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 9:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ...further on Tesla Electric / Dennis Lee Dave wondered about the "free energy" road show now making its way around the country. Daniel indicated 'no merit' there. Now Frederick Mann has indicated 'high probability of merit' in what he knows of Dennis Lee and what he's put together; suggest that it's important to remain all the way to the end of the show and the 'dealership meeting' afterward. (Dave -- sounds like both you and Trish might wanna catch this show when the tour comes your way.) -- Jeff --http://www.wellnow.com - Well Now Health Information Service Box 15524 Atlanta Georgia [30333] eFax: (419) 793-3043 - "There's nothing left in the world to prove. All that's worth doing is to love one another, using any means available to that purpose." - DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Did White House Smear FBI Agent
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/28/99 5:43:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wasn't speaking for you. Still now I'm curious. Who would you allow to see your FBI file? Can you control possible perusal? Prudy Oh, come on Prudence! You would support ANYONE'S right to look at your FBI file, just for the hell of it? You're just being silly now (I hope). It would, perhaps, be different if they had a need to know, or a reason for perusing the file but in many cases it seemed just to be a matter of "let's take a look at that file, just because no one will stop us and we are curious." I would hope that my file is kept out of the hands of everyone except those who have a valid court order to look into it (not that I even have a file, or that there is anything in it). Of course, I am not naive and know that it would be available to all and sundry who have clearance. Still, it's not right. right. *** ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [1a] Fortunate Son
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Fortunate Son J. H. Hatfield Omega Publishing Endeavours, Inc.©2000 Thomas Dunne Books St. Martins Press New York, NY 10010 - Well, the book has been pulled because the author is a convicted felon, and has no credibility. GE is a convicted felon, I guess that means that NBS has no credibility. To help each make-up their own minds, here are some excerpts. The Book has very little on SB, or history of the family, but is very well researched and has an extensive source file. There is no index, I guess from the speed of getting the book to print. This book has been recalled by publisher and heads have rolled, whether the injured party is W or the truth, I do not know. Any motive to making the story up, would seem to be "stupid." Is it an intentional "strawman, " or a "planted" one? Just some "lone nut," or an intelligent directed effort? Cui Bono? There would be great motive for the Bush juggernaut to deny and besmirch. Om K - FRAT BRAT In the autumn of 1964, George W.'s grandfather, Prescott, physically exhausted and crippled with arthritis, retired from the U.S. Senate after serving for over a decade; George senior, chairman of the Harris County Republican Party in Houston, unsuccessfully ran for the Senate against liberal Democrat, incumbent Ralph Yarborough (losing by 300,000 votes); and a year after President John F. Kennedy's assassination, Lyndon Johnson began his first elective term by deploying tens of thousands of young Americans to South Vietnam in a U.S. effort to prevent a Communist takeover by the North Vietnamese. Yale University, like many college campuses across the country served as well-publicized battlegrounds between the administration and cynical, rebellious students who protested America's involvement in the war.* By his own admission, junior spent his college years gratefully detached from campus politics, protests over the government's deceitfulness on the conflict in Vietnam, and the sixties counterculture. "I don't remember any kind of heaviness ruining my time at Yale," he admitted later. (Although Yale student body leaders signed an Ivy League manifesto saying they were "seriously considering or have already decided to leave the country or go to jail rather than serve in Vietnam," Bush was not among the signers.) [*The president's wife, Lady Bird Johnson, visited several college campuses, including Yale, where she saw the war polarizing the country. I was speaking to the Young Democrats and realized that nothing was getting through to them," she later said upon returning from the Ivy League campus, "not conservation, not the cities, only the war."] It was during this period of his life that friends say Junior first showed signs of being a natural politician. His inherited skillssubtle, like any personal touch, but distinctwere always evident, especially his photographic memory. Clay Johnson, a Bush classmate at both Andover and Yale, recalled the time when he and junior were fraternity pledges during their sophomore year at the university and the upperclassmen ordered them to stand and at-tempt to name the other fifty initiates. "The average person stood up and named about three," Johnson said. "George got up and named all fifty. He just has such an interest in people that he remembered their names, which is his medium, like writing numbers are for somebody else. He has such an in-terest in people. They sense that and respond to him," Roland Betts, a friend from Yale and later president of Silver Screen Management of New York, which finances motion pictures, remembered similar incidents. "Someone may say that's just Bush the politician, something he learned from his old man, said Betts. "But I can tell you when I ran into George in 1964 ... he would wander up to anybody, absolutely anybody, and stick his hand out and say, 'Hey, I'm George Bush,' and start talking. The name George Bush didn't mean shit to anybody. That's just his nature. In the twenty-five years we have known each other I don't think he's changed at all. He's not pretentious, not exploitive. George is a very disarmingly charming person. Another former schoolmate, the New England-based fiction writer Christopher Tilghman, added his own recollection of Bush: "That's exactly what it was. He did have this certain ability with people. The way he'd look you in the eye when he'd shake your hand, the direct way he talked-it's hard to describe, but you just came away thinking he was more interesting than the average preppy Lanny J. Davis, a Yale classmate who later served as special counsel to President Clinton, noted that Bush "could capture somebody's essence very quickly. Was he a spoiled, wealthy kid? Absolutely not The one thing he conveyed was a lack of pretense. You never would have known who his fa-ther was, what kind of family he came from. There was nothing hierarchical about him." Junior was, however, a very average student, majoring in history.
[CTRL] [1b] Fortunate Son
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Fortunate Son J. H. Hatfield Omega Publishing Endeavours, Inc.©2000 Thomas Dunne Books St. Martins Press New York, NY 10010 - Well, the book has been pulled because the author is a convicted felon, and has no credibility. GE is a convicted felon, I guess that means that NBS has no credibility. To help each make-up their own minds, here are some excerpts. The Book has very little on SB, or history of the family, but is very well researched and has an extensive source file. There is no index, I guess from the speed of getting the book to print. This book has been recalled by publisher and heads have rolled, whether the injured party is W or the truth, I do not know. Any motive to making the story up, would seem to be "stupid." Is it an intentional "strawman, " or a "planted" one? Just some "lone nut," or an intelligent directed effort? Cui Bono? There would be great motive for the Bush juggernaut to deny and besmirch. Om K - AFTERWORD Trust but verify. -Ronald Reagan 0N AUGUST 4, 1999, SENATE MINORITY LEADER TOM DASCHLE PUBLICLY CHARGED THE PRESS WITH GIVING GEORGE W. BUSH A "FREE RIDE" IN REGARDS TO THE PERSISTENT RUMORS of past cocaine use, adding that it was "a legitimate question" to expect any presidential candidate to answer to determine if he or she was morally fit to hold the highest elected office in the United States. In response to Senator Daschle's challenge, later that same day the New York Daily News asked Bush and his other eleven political rivals whether they had ever used cocaine. All of them-except for the presidential frontrunner, who refused to answer the question-denied ever experimenting with the illegal drug. When the Associated Press asked the same group of candidates about the general use of drugs, eight said no, and two acknowledged trying marijuana. Once again, Bush refused to answer the question, contributing to the media's feeding frenzy regarding allegations of his prior drug use by evasively responding: "I've made mistakes in the past, and I've learned from my mistakes," branding such rumors "ridiculous and absurd,' but declining to label them false. The other presidential hopefuls called for Bush to end his obfuscation and candidly "tell the truth" to a "simple question that all the candidates should answer." His political opponents in both parties argued that the Texas governor had previously voiced no objection to revealing personal details, as long as they were of his own choosing. When President Clinton's extramarital affairs made headlines in 1998, Bush announced-without being asked by the media-that he'd been faithful to Laura, his wife of more than twenty years. He had also repeatedly recited his story of a "young and irresponsible" early life of excessive drinking followed by sobriety at age forty. Unlike drinking and infidelity, cocaine use is illegal and Bush testily refused to say whether he had ever experimented with the drug, stating at each campaign appearance that he was not going to participate in the "politics of personal destruction." "We ought to be able to say with no hesitation that, 'No, we have not broken the drug laws of the United States,' and 'No, we have not used cocaine,"' asserted one of Bush's Republican presidential challengers, Gary Bauer, a former Reagan White House aide. Even Oklahoma Governor Frank Keating, an early Bush supporter and chairman of the Republican Governors Association, told reporters in Washington that Bush should "address issues about private conduct. in today's world, everyone of us who serves in public office needs to answer questions about conduct that is arguably criminal." Fresh from a first-place showing in the Iowa GOP straw poll on August 14, the Texas governor was forced to amend his stock message when Sam Attlesey of the Dallas Morning News asked whether, as president, Bush would insist that his appointees answer drug-use questions contained in the standard FBI background check. (As president, Bush would nominate candidates for the Supreme Court, other federal judges, cabinet secretaries, foreign ambassadors, and federal prosecutors. All would be required to answer questions "fully and truthfully" regarding illegal drug use on the questionnaire for national security decisions, a part of the FBI background check.) After receiving advance word that the new slant on the drug question was going to be asked, Bush conferred with campaign finance chairman Don Evans, finance director Jack Oliver, media adviser Mark McKinnon, chief strategist Karl Rove, and communications director Karen Hughes. "Imagine the ad our opponents could make if we didn't answer the question," said one Bush campaign adviser. "As president, George W. Bush would maintain a double standard when it comes to illegal drug use by White House employees-one for him and one for everybody else." Bush's inner circle of campaign officials agreed that the leading presidential candidate should confirm to the
[CTRL] Bob Woodward
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.booknotes.org/transcripts/10171.htm Click Here: A HREF="http://www.booknotes.org/transcripts/10171.htm"Bob Woodward/A - A good source for interviews, many transcripts. Here is part of one from Bob Woodward about his book, The Commanders, from 6/23/91. Om k - LAMB: Next paragraph: "Television news assisted me greatly. Pentagon reporters such as Fred Francis at NBC, David Martin of CBS and Bob Zelnick of ABC often have the story first. Any examination of the news coverage of recent military crises would show how serious and comprehensive their work is. Some day these reporters will receive the credit they deserve." Again, why did you feel the need to do that? WOODWARD: Particularly in the Gulf War -- I was home writing this book during the war phase and really putting the last part of it. I was kind of on deadline for months at that time. I tried to start early in the day and about 6:30 when the news would come on, I would take a break and go watch the news to see what happened that day. I watched as much as I could of all three networks. They come on at different times and you can bounce around, and they're good. I knew a lot of what was going on behind the scenes for some of it. I had a sense of what the war was, its cadence, the nature of the operations and so forth. These people are really plugged in. Anyone who watches those shows probably doesn't realize how good the data is that they're getting, and I really felt that I should say that because I knew that to be true. LAMB: Now, in the book you mention often that people were watching CNN, but in the credits you don't say anything about CNN. WOODWARD: I live in the District of Columbia and am not able to get CNN at home, so I didn't watch CNN. So it was not something I could measure personally, and so I didn't say anything about it. LAMB: You also wrote, "By the end" -- meaning the end of your project -- "some were very unhappy to hear from me with one more request for more information." Did you really have people get upset with you? WOODWARD: Yes. They used words that I can't repeat on your show. Not anger at what I was doing or me, I don't think. They were angry that I was coming back again and again. The first week of the Gulf crisis -- there is about a 60-page section in the book, and I did interviews for that over months. I went back to some people a dozen or two times about specific meetings, what were attitudes, what was said, what was the sequence because the sequence becomes very important. A lot of these people were quite busy because they were involved in Desert Shield or the war itself, and they were not happy to hear from me again. My argument was, "I talked to somebody else and there is another little piece here I want to verify. There is something I don't understand. I'm not sure I understand your exact, precise attitude on this." It's done very, very carefully and when you are a participant in that process of having somebody come back again and again and again -- sometimes I felt like Columbo with just one more question and two more questions and I need to talk again and, you know, that's frustrating to people. To me it's essential. LAMB: When you were in the Navy, did you do intelligence work? WOODWARD: No. LAMB: Do you have a clearance of any kind? WOODWARD: Yes. I had a top-secret cryptographic clearance doing the highest level and the most classified and the most sensitive communications functioning. But those are not intelligence clearances, and if you know about the way they compartmentalize information, they compartmentalize it in a way that you have to have separate clearances for intelligence. LAMB: The reason I ask is that when I read the section on the war, I kept learning things that obviously were classified -- even locations of situation rooms and what the rooms looked like inside and the kind of photography that they were able to pick up on satellites and things like that. As you were doing this and listening to people tell you this, were you saying to yourself, "Why are these people who are obviously cleared giving me this information?" Big people. WOODWARD: Well, I must tell you that there's a lot I left out. I think I presented it in a way -- you might argue it's classified. I would say nothing vital was given away. I've had no complaints from anyone and the people who know the most about this, that there is a way to cut around the edges to describe some of the rooms and the general techniques and give a very broad overview but not compromise anything. I think I found that line. In the '70s and the '80s I did a lot of work on the CIA and intelligence and learned a good deal about it, and I think there is a way to present that data so it's new, so it's detailed, but does not compromise things. LAMB: Actually, I was asking it from the other angle -- as you heard people describing classified information that you knew was classified, did you ever say to
Re: [CTRL] Prohibitions
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What everyone forgets about Prohibition is that it *also* resulted in a per
capita drop in alcohol consumption of 30-40 percent, IIRC. In the sense that
its intention was to discourage the public consumption of alcoholic
beverages, *it succeeded*...and when you compare it to the "deregulated"
situation today, with deaths from drunk driving on the increase, an epidemic
of binge drinking on high school and college campuses, etc., etc., the
conclusion is obvious. Sure, Prohibition allowed criminal syndicates to
expand rapidly--but it didn't *create* them; they were already in existence.
It's all very well and good to argue for decriminalization of drug
possession and use, but not if the result is going to be an even greater
epidemic of abuse than we're seeing now. What makes sense is, instead,
*legalization* of drug use: regulate it, tax it, control it, the way alcohol
was controlled in most states following the repeal of Prohibition, making
the sale of the drugs pay for treatment programs for those who can't handle
them. If that marks me as a tax-and-spend liberal, so be it, but it makes no
sense to me simply to throw open the floodgates so that a few super-rich
plutocrats can get even richer.
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Charley Reese
Commentary
What do Prohibition, drug war have in common? Sure failure
Published in The Orlando Sentinel on October 24, 1999.
Let's take a short quiz on liquor prohibition. In 1919, the Constitution
was
amended to ban the manufacture and distribution of alcoholic beverages in
the
United States. Prohibition was repealed in 1933.
Did Prohibition succeed in banning liquor? No.
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[CTRL] Which Members of Congress are Masons?
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.c-span.org/questions/weekly65.htm Click Here: A HREF="http://www.c-span.org/questions/weekly65.htm"Capitol Questions/A - Which Members of Congress are Masons? Oklahoma City, OK Capitol mural depicting the laying of the Capitol cornerstone. Click on picture for larger imageThere are 11 Masons in the Senate, and 26 in the House. Their names follow, courtesy of the Masonic Service Association of North America. Masons have been part of the U.S. Congress since President George Washington laid the cornerstone of the Capitol in a Masonic ceremony on September 18, 1793. The Grand Master of the Masons of the District of Columbia presided over a ceremony marking an extension of the Capitol in 1851, during which President Millard Fillmore wore the same Masonic apron donned by George Washington. Most recently, President Dwight Eisenhower participated in a Masonic ritual on July 4, 1959, laying the cornerstone for the extension of the east front of Capitol. Masons in the 105th Congress Arizona Rep. J.D. Hayworth, Jr. (R) California Rep. Bill Thomas (R) Florida Rep. Michael Bilirakis (R) Illinois Rep. John Porter (R) Indiana Rep. Stephen Buyer (R) Iowa Senator Charles Grassley (R) Louisiana Rep. Robert Livingston (R) Michigan Rep. Nick Smith (R) Mississippi Senator Trent Lott (R) Missouri Rep. Ike Skelton (D) Montana Senator Conrad Burns (R) Nevada Senator Richard Bryan (D) New Hampshire Rep. Charles Bass (R) New York Rep. Benjamin Gilman (R) Rep. Gerald Solomon (R) Rep. Charles Schumer (D) North Carolina Senator Jesse Helms (R) Rep. Howard Coble (R) Ohio Senator John Glenn (D) Rep. Paul Gillmor (R) Rep. David Hobson (R) Oregon Rep. Robert Smith (R) Pennsylvania Rep. Bud Shuster (R) Rep. Jon Fox (R) South Carolina Senator Ernest Hollings (D) Senator Strom Thurmond (R) Tennessee Rep. John Tanner (D) Rep. John Duncan, Jr. (R) Texas Rep. Ralph Hall (D) Virginia Rep. Owen Pickett (D) Washington Rep. George Nethercutt (R) West Virginia Senator Robert Byrd (D) Rep. Nick Rahall (D) Wisconsin Rep. Thomas Petri (R) Wyoming Senator Michael Enzi (R) Senator Craig Thomas (R) Congress | The House | The Senate | Impeachment | Submit | Glossary | Capitol Questions Home | C-SPAN © 1999, National Cable Satellite Corporation - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] How many Members of the 105th Congress are Rhodes Scholars?
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.c-span.org/questions/weekly94.htm Click Here: A HREF="http://www.c-span.org/questions/weekly94.htm"Capitol Questions/A - How many Members of the 105th Congress are Rhodes Scholars? Augusta, ME There are four: Senate * Russ Feingold (D-Wisconsin) * Richard Lugar (R-Indiana) * Paul Sarbanes (D-Maryland) House * Tom Allen (D-Maine) For more information on the Rhodes Scholarship program, contact: Rhodes Scholarship Trust 700 14th St. N.W. Suite 500 Washington, D.C. 20005 (202) 434-1554 In addition, many universities have general information about the Rhodes Scholarship program and application procedures on their web-sites. For an example, visit the University of Colorado at Boulder for more information on their program. Congress | The House | The Senate | Impeachment | Submit | Glossary | Capitol Questions Home | C-SPAN - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] What are the religious affiliations of Members of the 105th Congress?
-Caveat Lector- from; http://www.c-span.org/questions/weekly98.htm Click Here: A HREF="http://www.c-span.org/questions/weekly98.htm"Capitol Questions/A - What are the religious affiliations of Members of the 105th Congress? Sterling Heights, MI The 435 Members of the House, 5 non-voting Delegates, and 100 Senators represent a broad array of faiths. Their religious affiliations follow, in order of prevalence: * Catholic (151 Members) * Baptist (68) * Methodist (62) * Presbyterian (52) * Episcopalian (42) * Jewish (35) * Protestant, no denomination stated (28) * Lutheran (22) * Mormon (17) * Christian, non-denominational (13) * No religious affiliation (9) * Congregationalist (7) * Christian Scientist (5) * Assembly of God (4) * Greek Orthodox (4) * AME: African, Methodist, Episcopalian (3) * Unitarian (3) * United Church of Christ (3) * Christian Reformed (2) * Disciples of Christ (2) * Eastern Orthodox (2) * Evangelical Protestant (2) * Seventh Day Adventist (2) * Moravian (1) * Nazarene (1) Congress | The House | The Senate | Impeachment | Submit | Glossary | Capitol Questions Home | C-SPAN © 1999, National Cable Satellite Corporation - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Presidential Executive Order
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.c-span.org/questions/weekly47.htm Click Here: A HREF="http://www.c-span.org/questions/weekly47.htm"Capitol Questions/A - Presidential Executive Orders sometimes have tremendous policy impact, yet they do not require the approval of Congress. What recourse does Congress have? Seal Beach, CA Executive orders are essentially Presidential directives with the force of law, and, you are right, they do not require the approval of Congress to take effect. The Constitution is silent on the subject of Executive Orders, but the courts have upheld them in principle based on the implied powers inherent in the grant of "executive power" to the President in Article II, section 1 and in the constitutional language in Article II, section 3, that says Presidents are "to take care that the laws be faithfully executed." In addition to this general constitutional authority, some Executive Orders are issued under direct statutory authority delegated specifically to the President by Congress in limited policy areas. The Supreme Court has heard numerous cases involving Executive Orders. It has overturned some as exceeding Presidential powers or as usurping the powers of the legislative branch, by changing the policy direction enacted into law by Congress. It has upheld others as appropriately within the framework of the President's authority to carry out (implement) laws already on the books. Executive Orders have become controversial because they in effect allow Presidents to require federal agencies and private citizens and companies to take actions that may never have received legislative review or approval. Congress often leaves considerable leeway to the executive branch to carry out laws it enacts. Details are often left out of statutory language either because of a desire to leave the federal agencies involved some flexibility in implementing a bill, or simply because Congress feels unable or unwilling to spell out every detail for a bill's execution. As a result, Presidents have often interpreted the statutory authority granted in the broadest sense and received much criticism in return for infringing on the power of Congress to make laws. At times, Congress has passed legislation to negate or modify a specific executive order. However, when it has the President has often vetoed the new law and Congress has not always had the votes to override his veto. Executive Orders have been sequentially numbered and noted since 1907. Prior to that year, record keeping was so erratic that historians have not been able to pinpoint the actual number of Executive Orders issued. Since 1946, Congress has required that the text of all Executive Orders be published in the Federal Register when they are issued. Periodically a list of all Executive Orders is published in a compilation in the Code of Federal Regulations, usually under Title 3. Orders dealing with classified or national security policies are the only ones not made public. However, their numbers and dates of issuance are noted. Both the CFR and the FR are available in federal depository libraries (e.g. university libraries), and for purchase from the Government Printing Office. All modern Presidents have made heavy use of the Executive Order as a policy tool to circumvent oppositional Congresses, often citing the need to act more quickly than the legislative process would allow. President Roosevelt used an Executive Order to seize aviation and ship-building plants in 1941 for war use. Harry Truman used one to integrate the armed forces. President Eisenhower used an Executive Order to implement school desegregation, as did John Kennedy. President Kennedy also used an Executive Order to bar racial discrimination in federally subsidized housing. Lyndon Johnson used one to require that companies seeking federal contracts must have in place a minority-hiring plan. Reagan used an Executive Order to prohibit family planning clinics that receive federal funds from advocating abortion to their clients. The Supreme Court upheld that Order as valid. Congress was unable to override President Bush's veto when Congress sought to repeal the Order. The policy is no longer in effect because President Clinton issued a new Executive Order repealing the Reagan/Bush Order. Executive orders can be challenged formally in two ways: (1) a lawsuit could be brought if it is felt that the Order contradicts the original legislative intent of the law or has no underlying statutory authority, or (2) Congress could pass a bill repealing or modifying a specific Executive Order. That bill would, of course, be subject to a Presidential veto and a need to override. Congress | The House | The Senate | Impeachment | Submit | Glossary | Capitol Questions Home | C-SPAN © 1999, National Cable Satellite Corporation - Aloha,
[CTRL] How many people have served in Congress since it began in 1789?
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.c-span.org/questions/weekly59.htm Click Here: A HREF="http://www.c-span.org/questions/weekly59.htm"Capitol Questions/A - How many people have served in Congress since it began in 1789? Is there a list available of all their names, their length of service, and their occupation before coming to Congress? Windham, CT In the 210 years since the United States Congress began, 11,545 individuals have served in the House of Representatives and 1,221 individuals have served in the U.S. Senate. These were the figures as of June 1998, and include the 9 new Members who joined the House after the convening of the 105th Congress. There is one authoritative source which lists all Members by name, the dates of their tenure, and biographical information. It is the Biographical Directory of the United States Congress, 1774-1989. This reference book is updated every 10 years and will be revised again in 2000. It includes biographies for Members of the Continental Congress [1774-1788] as well as for the U.S. Congress [1789-1989]. It is published by the Government Printing Office and obtainable either through GPO [ask for Senate Document 100-34] or at a federal depository or good university library. The Library of Congress call number is JK1010.A5 1989. The Dewey Decimal number is 973.3/12/0922 B. For information on Members elected to Congress since the 100th Congress in 1989, I would recommend you consult the Congressional Directory, also published by GPO. This reference book is issued at the start of each new Congress. The current edition for the 105th Congress, 1997-1998, is Senate Publication 105-20. The official directories for the 104th, 103rd, 102nd, and 101st Congresses are probably only still available through libraries, but check with GPO. Information on how to order GPO documents is available on their web-site: www. access.gpo.gov/su_docs/. You can also write them: U.S. Government Printing Office, Superintendent of Documents, Washington, D.C. 20402. Congress | The House | The Senate | Impeachment | Submit | Glossary | Capitol Questions Home | C-SPAN © 1999, National Cable Satellite Corporation - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Prohibitions
-Caveat Lector- It's all very well and good to argue for decriminalization of drug possession and use, but not if the result is going to be an even greater epidemic of abuse than we're seeing now. (1.) Use _ abuse. (2.) It's nobody's business what you do with your own body, least of all the government's. (3.) When somebody else, not you, decides what goes into your body and what does not go into your body that is exactly and precisely the same thing as rape. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Which colleges or universities have produced the most Members of Congress?
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.c-span.org/questions/weekly96.htm Click Here: A HREF="http://www.c-span.org/questions/weekly96.htm"Capitol Questions/A - Which colleges or universities have produced the most Members of Congress? Are there any currently serving Members who do not have a college degree? Aubu rn, WA In the 106th Congress, there are 4 U.S. Senators with no college degree, and 26 Representatives without one. Harvard University has produced the most Members with a graduate degree, and Yale University holds the record for undergraduate degrees. The top 5 schools in each category follow. Graduate Degrees * Harvard University (31 Members) * Georgetown University (14) * University of Michigan (10) * University of Virginia (10) * George Washington University (9) * Yale University (9) Undergraduate Degrees * Yale University (11 Members) * Harvard University (9) * Stanford University (9) * Brigham Young University (7) * University of Florida (7) Congress | The House | The Senate | Impeachment | Submit | Glossary | Capitol Questions Home | C-SPAN © 1999, National Cable Satellite Corporation - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 'Our own image'
-Caveat Lector- The answer is obvious. Hi guys, I thought I would throw this one to the panel before replying Peter Hi Peter, Hope you are well. I have a question for you. In the Bible it says that God made man is 'Our own image'. If God was the Annunaki, and the Annunaki were reptoids, then how come they made man humanoid? Tis a puzzlement? Any answers? Maybe you can post the question...will be interesting hearing the answer. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Senator John H. Chafee Biography
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.senate.gov/~chafee/jhc_bio.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.senate.gov/~chafee/jhc_bio.html"Senator John H. Chafee Biography/A - Biography Senator John H. Chafee (R-RI) was born in Providence, Rhode Island. He is a graduate of Yale University and Harvard Law School. When the United States entered World War II, he left Yale to enlist in the Marine Corps, and then served in the original invasion forces at Guadalcanal. He was recalled to active duty in 1951, and commanded a rifle company in Korea. He served six years in the Rhode Island House of Representatives, where he was elected Minority Leader. Running for Governor in 1962, Chafee was elected by 398 votes. He was then reelected in 1964 and 1966 -- both times by the largest margin in the State's history. In January 1969, he was appointed Secretary of the Navy and served in that post for three-and-a-half years. John Chafee's Senate career began in 1976. He was reelected to a fourth term in 1994, with sixty-five percent of the vote, and is the only Republican to be elected to the U.S. Senate from Rhode Island in the past 68 years. Chairman of the Environment and Public Works Committee, the Senator was a leading voice in crafting the Clean Air Act of 1990 which strengthened pollution emissions standards. Recently he lead successful efforts to enact oil spill prevention and response legislation, and a bill to strengthen the Safe Drinking Water Act. Senator Chafee is a long-time advocate for wetlands conservation and open space preservation, and has been the recipient of every major environmental award. A senior member of the Finance Committee, Senator Chafee has worked successfully to expand health care coverage for women and children, and to improve community services for persons with disabilities. In 1990, Senator Chafee spearheaded the Republican Health Care Task Force and became a prominent figure in the national health reform debate. He went on to lead the bipartisan effort to craft a comprehensive health care reform proposal in 1994. Currently, he chairs the Subcommittee on Social Security and Family Policy. Senator Chafee has been a leader in efforts to reduce the federal budget deficit and cochaired the centrist coalition which produced a bipartisan balanced budget plan in 1996. He has been an active proponent of free trade and was a strong supporter of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). Senator Chafee led the successful effort to repeal the federal luxury tax on boats and jewelry, and thus revitalized two critical industries in Rhode Island and other states. Senator Chafee also serves on the Select Committee on Intelligence. He served as Chairman of the Republican Conference for six years. The Senator has received awards and endorsements from such organizations as The National Federation of Independent Business, The American Nurses Association, The League of Conservation Voters, The Sierra Club, Handgun Control Inc., Planned Parenthood, Citizens Against Government Waste, and the National PTA. He and his wife Virginia have five children and twelve grandchildren. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Tales of the Underclass
-Caveat Lector- What constitutes "the working poor" today? What constitutes "middle class"? IS there a middle class any more? Clearly the great mass of the American people are *not* as well off as we are told. So just how close to a genuine pre-revolutionary condition is this country? What happens when the inevitable stock market crash occurs? Who owns the police, the military, the courts, the prisons? Who owns the Congress? Who benefits? And who loses? -Original Message- From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 6:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Tales of the Underclass -Caveat Lector- In most American cities, a large percentage of the working poor see most of their income go into the hands of real estate speculator landlords. snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Prohibitions
-Caveat Lector- Bob, there are many "figures" from prohibition, it is a highly propagndized subject. Many are spurious. And interesting fact from prohibition is that the age of imbibement went younger and the treatment of teenage alcoholics increased. Look at the liver disease rates and other statistics and you will find that was no significant dropp in actual alcohol consumption,how can you have true records of an illegal market?many studies point to increased consumption and much social disruption. Prohibition was brought about by the subjectation of generation to the temperance message propaganda and was used by many for many purposes. Before refrigeration fermented potables were the norm throughout society. Moderation is always best. Marijuana prohibition is completely without constitutional standing and the government has no authority to prohibit possession of plants that come from God, they do not have the authority. To make alcohol illegal, which is a manufactured item, a constitutional admendment had to be passed. The Drug War is unconstitutional. Drug Peace not war. And yes regulate it, tax it. Here in Oregon, the sale of liquor is regulated and only available from state stores during certain hours. Personally, I like that model much better than liquor on most corners and supermarkets. Om K In a message dated 10/28/99 8:39:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What everyone forgets about Prohibition is that it *also* resulted in a per capita drop in alcohol consumption of 30-40 percent, IIRC. In the sense that its intention was to discourage the public consumption of alcoholic beverages, *it succeeded*...and when you compare it to the "deregulated" situation today, with deaths from drunk driving on the increase, an epidemic of binge drinking on high school and college campuses, etc., etc., the conclusion is obvious. Sure, Prohibition allowed criminal syndicates to expand rapidly--but it didn't *create* them; they were already in existence. It's all very well and good to argue for decriminalization of drug possession and use, but not if the result is going to be an even greater epidemic of abuse than we're seeing now. What makes sense is, instead, *legalization* of drug use: regulate it, tax it, control it, the way alcohol was controlled in most states following the repeal of Prohibition, making the sale of the drugs pay for treatment programs for those who can't handle them. If that marks me as a tax-and-spend liberal, so be it, but it makes no sense to me simply to throw open the floodgates so that a few super-rich plutocrats can get even richer. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FIGHT CLUB - SECRETS OF JANUS
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.nitronews.com/dowbenko.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.nitronews.com/dowbenko.html"Nitro News - Uri Dowbenko/A - --- FIGHT CLUB SECRETS OF JANUS By Uri Dowbenko Media Columnist [EMAIL PROTECTED] When you see Fight Club, you'll have "front row seats for the theater of destruction." Ostensibly a movie about underground ultimate fighting, Fight Club is actually an externalized psychodrama and the best illustration of the internal workings of an MPD, or Multiple Personality Disorder, victim ever made. Narrated by the wimpy antihero (Edward Norton), Fight Club begins as the savage Tyler Durden (Brad Pitt) forces a gun into his mouth. The rest of the movie is an extended flashback until the end, as the Narrator in a deadpan voiceover describes his life in a nightmarish first person rant. The super-alienated Narrator works as a zombified analyst for a big car company. He suffers from insomnia, and a doctor, in a spoof of new age medicine, tells him to chew some valerian and get some rest. Since his bean-counter job is to figure out how many customer deaths will warrant a product recall, he spends the rest of his time compulsively ordering home furnishings for his apartment. Driven by his consumer cult addiction, he starts attending support group meetings to counteract his anomie. "Losing all hope is freedom," says the Narrator. "I became addicted to groups," he continues, visiting a different 12-step group every night. There he meets a fellow traveller like himself, the chain-smoking spiky haired Marla (Helena Bonham Carter). Later on a plane he meets Tyler Durden (Brad Pitt), who wears retro-seventies clothes and has a Woody Woodpecker haircut. Tyler sneers at him and his meaningless lifestyle, adding, "you have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh." When his apartment is blown up, he moves into Tyler's place. It looks like a crack house, a dilapidated war-zone mansion with a flooded basement. "I didn't know if he owned it or if he was squatting," he quips. Tyler makes liposuction-based soap which he sells to toney boutiques, or as he put it, "we were selling the women their fat asses back to them." At night, meanwhile, the boys have organized an underground bare knuckle boxing club with other disaffected men. The Narrator says, "every evening I died and every evening I was born again." It's SM Chic with homoerotic undertones. Black and Blue Psycho-Boys beat each other till they drop. "'In Tyler we trust' was their motto," says the Narrator. As a mind controlled cult with "franchises" in every major city, the skinhead followers prepare for Project Mayhem, a plan to blow-up the infrastructure of American life. "What's the difference between performance art and sabotage?" is the question. The house itself has become a Death Cult war room. According to recovered survivors of mind control, Fight Club is the story of someone who discovers he has so-called Janus End Times Programming. The Ed Norton character is a "sleeper," or programmed mind control victim, triggered to perform certain activities of chaos, disruption and murder, aka Project Mayhem in the film. "Rule Number One," says the Brad Pitt character in the movie. "Nobody talks about Fight Club." The subtext is simple - nobody talks about mind control, especially as a causative agent in America today. The Brad Pitt role itself is the raging "alter," one of the split-off personalities, which characterizes MPD, renamed DID, or Dissociative Identity Disorder. According to DSM IV, the psychiatrists' guide to mental illness, DID is characterized by "the presence of two or more distinct personality states that recurrently take control of behavior. There is an inability to recall important personal information, the extent of which is too great to be explained by ordinary forgetfulness. The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance or a general medical condition." (p.484) The technology of trauma-based mind control programming has advanced rapidly since Nazi "doctor" Josef Mengele conducted research on thousands of twins and other hapless victims in Germany during World War II. Known as "The Angel of Death," Mengele was one of many military scientists and medical researchers secretly exfiltrated into the US, where they continued to practice their black arts. "Ed Norton's insomnia represents his 'unknown' activities," says Annie McKenna, in a recent e-mail interview. She is the author of Paperclip Dolls, a first-hand account of mind control abuse and her subsequent therapy and recovery. McKenna says she was stunned by the accurate portrayal of MPD and mind control programming in the movie. "I think the most important message [for me] was that the rage alter [represented by Brad Pitt] taking over was not going to happen to me. I found it a very intense message and ending," she continues. "That part where
[CTRL] Fwd: Exec. Orders--Legal or Illegal/Separation of Powers Restoration Bill Gets Hearing
Gets Hearing X-Priority: 2 (High) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by neti.saber.net id IAA21585 To: undisclosed-recipients:; 10.28.99 Exec. Orders--Legal or Illegal// Separation of Powers Restoration Bill Gets Hearing Received from Gwenn is a collection of well-researched explorations of the subject of the validity of executive "orders", proclamations and the like in terms of their legal weight. In other words; do these executive orders have the force of genuine, legislated LAW? Of course NOT, but fascistic thugs beholden to globalist, totalitarian bigwigs at all levels of corrupt government will be trying to make us all BELIEVE that the "EOs" ARE in fact law. Legal scholars and the like agree: these EXECUTIVE ORDERS, of which our current abuser-in-chief has written more than any other previous president--are most ABSOLUTELY NOT in the same legal category as duly legislated laws, ands nothing will make them so. It's up to US to say the emperor has no clothes... granted, a truly repugnant task; given that in this case the emperor is none other than Billy "Hangs Sideways' Blythe (Klinton).. scourge of decent women everywhere= . What's even MORE urgent is to DEMAND that those spineless whiners and wankers in Congress OBEY the WILL of the people on this issue and vote in support of the Separation of Powers Restoration Act, Congressman Ron Paul's Bill HR 2655, which seeks to immediately and henceforth severely curtail on a retroactive basis these extra-legal "proclamations" and what they've sought to implement. The ever-growing avalanche of these executive orders has become a cancerous proliferation which threatens to erode and undermine any semblance whatsoever of a functional democratic republic in the United State= s. This rapidly-deteriorating situation concerns EVERYONE across the entire political spectrum--those who believe in freedom in the least, that is. Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Conservatives, Reformists, Liberals... EVERYBODY stands to lose if this intolerable usurpation of powers by the chief executive is allowed to continue unchecked! =20 The situation is CRITICAL. The essays on executive orders below are followed by reports on Rep. Ron Paul's greatly-needed legislation HR 2655 and it's progress through the Congressional obstacle course, as well as an eloquent essay by Ron Paul himself on the entire executive order issue. Remember--we must DEMAND our elected representatives, Republican or Democrat or whatever, SUPPORT HR 2655, the Separation of Powers Restoration Act, as if their lives (political at least) depended on it. Because ALL our lives may be headed for some very fundamental and unpleasant changes=20 if these Executive Orders are NOT shot down! NewsHawk=AE Inc. Subject: Fwd: Re: Executive Orders Are Illegal Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 05:31:14 -0700 From: "Richard James, McDonald" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Richard, In support of the assertion that EO's cannot be used to legislate I draw on the writings of Henry Campbell Black, one of the best known legal writers in American history. Black authored many law books including several editions on Constitutional Law entitled "Handbook of American Constitutional Law." The first edition was published in 1895 by West Publishing Company. Second, third and fourth editions were published in 1897, 1910, and 1927 by West Publishing Company. I have a copy of the fourth edition and there are copies of all four editions here in Austin at the University of Texas law library. There's no question that the scope of EO's is, in fact, very narrow. The ever broadening scope has gone virtually unchallenged and we now have a very powerful mythology to overcome. The Seperation of Powers Restoration Act [HR 2655] is a beautiful and intelligent piece of legislation which would correct the wayward use of EO's if it were actually passed. I'm ever hopeful in this regard but realize that the majority of Congress are spineless and fear going against the ruling elite who write EO's for Clinton to rubber stamp. This impasse is not without remedy, according to Black. I've also included a section from the first edition which provides instructions on how to deal with problems such as this. I wish you all the best. J. R. Johnson Austin, Travis county, Texas Here's what Black has to say about EO's. Notes from: HANDBOOK of AMERICAN CONSTITUTIONAL LAW by Henry Campbell Black, LL. D. Fourth Edition; West Publishing Company. 1927 [Author of Black's Law Dictionary, and of Treatises on Judgments, Bankruptcy, Rescission of Contracts, Interpretation of Laws, Judicial Precedents, etc.] Chapter 6 EXECUTION OF THE LAWS 95. The President is required by the Constitution to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed." The President "is
Re: [CTRL] NO Evidence Of UFO'S?
-Caveat Lector- I'll play along for this one. Gavin. Oct. 25, 1999 No evidence to support existence of aliens By Donald L. Gilleland A FLORIDA TODAY guest column Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) have intrigued us since the beginning of time. Now and then, however, they take on greater significance as something spectacular thrusts them into the public consciousness again. The recent FLORIDA TODAY forum in which a panel of authoritative spokesmen examined the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe was such an event. And we were fortunate to have such an illustrious group visit Melbourne. However, before them, the popular television show and movie, "X-Files," and the 1997 publication of The Day After Roswell, by Col. Philip J. Corso (Ret.), also spurred public speculation about the possibility of aliens visiting Earth. Gavin And over 2000 documented pilot sightings by Richard Haines. Hundreds of hours of quality video taped, very unusual silent aircraft flitting around. Most UFO accounts rely on our willingness to believe that the US government has captured space ships and alien visitors and is keeping the details of those activities under Top Secret wraps. And that aliens kidnap Earthlings for short periods to experiment on them, safely returning them to Earth once their alien curiosity is satisfied. It never seems to matter much that there is little credible evidence to support these themes. Gavin Even discounting 90% of the sightings as misinterpretation, hoaxes, wishful thinking, there are still tens of thousands of unimpeachable eyewitness testimony. Yes, the US government covers up many very large incidents, in this case there is plenty of evidence to support ET visitation to earth if you can be bothered to read a few good books on the subject, or search the Internet. The government just allows tabloid junk to obfuscate the mountain of real evidence. Don't hold your breath waiting for the prostitutes in mainstream science to do their job and investigate UFOs; there is no money, no prizes, no prestige, but plenty of ridicule for straying from the chosen path of ms. At least the FLORIDA TODAY panel treated the subject with the seriousness it deserves. When most people ask if you believe in UFOs they really mean do you believe in extraterrestrial space travel and do you believe aliens have visited Earth? These are two very different questions. When we first sent men to the moon in 1969, we demonstrated the feasibility of space travel, so we have irrefutable evidence that such travel is possible. However, we have no corresponding evidence that any aliens have been here. Think about it. Everywhere we go we leave a mountain of debris: A flag planted on the moon, a lunar land rover still sitting there, tons of equipment left behind, exploratory probes on Mars and other planets, satellites crashed on the surface of other heavenly bodies. It would be impossible for us to deny we had been to space. Great point, no Big Mac wrappers from the Plaeides equals no ET visitation to earth! The argument that "they are not like us" so they didn't come here is not only anthropocentric but is a fatally flawed syllogism. They are "alien", they are probably hundreds or thousands of years more advanced. Start thinking Ronald [Mc]Donald. (sorry, couldn't help it) On the other hand, with more than 12,000 UFO sightings in the last 100 years, we have no real credible evidence of any alien visitors to Earth. How curious! If they've been here, where is their debris? Is it possible they left nothing behind on any of their trips? Even if that was plausible, you would think that in 12,000 sightings it would be at least a statistical probability that someone with a still or video camera would capture a really good photograph or film of these visitors, instead of the blurred pictures that are occasionally published and are so easily faked. Gavin The person who wrote this article must have been living in the Australian outback for the last ten years at least. He uses the same old tired useless arguments about debris, then asks why we don't have clear video footage. We do. I have several video tapes from programs in the last 5 years clearly showing very unusual, cigar or oval objects moving around in daylight. My uncle in England has recently taped a program which clearly shows cigar shaped aircraft silently hovering a couple hundred feet above a church, in daylight. There are hundreds of hours of silent craft caught on tape from Mexico in the last few years. This "reporter" obviously hasn't bothered doing any investigating, he's just used old arguments and has no idea of the massive increase in UFO video footage in the last ten years. Where does he get the figure of 12,000 sightings? There have been hundreds of thousands, probably millions of sightings worldwide this century, many of them unreported, told only to family and friends. His pet theory about us not
[CTRL] FW: HEMPTECH: Hemp News Service Digest
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 10:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HEMPTECH: Hemp News Service Digest ARTICLE: HEMPEMBARGO.COM -- A CALL TO ACTION!! AUTHOR: Hemp Industries Association DATE: Tuesday, 12 October 1999, at 11:33 a.m. http://HEMPEMBARGO.COM has several sample letters that you can send to your legislators protesting this travesty. Whether you are a manufacturer or retailer of hemp products or a concerned American or Canadian citizen, http://HEMPEMBARGO.COM has something for you. Pubdate: Oct. 10, 1999 Under US federal law, sterilized hemp seed, hemp seed oil and hemp seed cake are legal products. Despite 60 years of legal importation, the DEA has instructed US Customs to seize a hemp shipment from Canada because it "potentially" contained a controlled substance. Visit http://HEMPEMBARGO.COM to learn about this issue!! The Hemp Industry is now responding to this with knowledge and action. Go to http://HEMPEMBARGO.COM to read copies of the affidavits showing that the DEA knows Hempseed is Legal. http://HEMPEMBARGO.COM has several sample letters that you can send to your legislators protesting this travesty. Whether you are a manufacturer or retailer of hemp products or a concerned American or Canadian citizen, http://HEMPEMBARGO.COM has something for you. http://HEMPEMBARGO.COM has many news articles and press releases relating to this issue. Knowledge is one of our most effective weapons. Read about the DEA's actions and take some action of your own!! A discussion area has been created at: http://HEMPEMBARGO.COM to allow visitors to post questions or talk about this issue with others. The Hemp Industries Association has created http://HEMPEMBARGO.COM for the education of the public and all businesses concerned with the actions of the US Drug Enforcement Agency. We want the hemp industry to be regulated by the Agriculture Dept. in the USA, as industrial hemp is a valuable commodity for commerce around the world. PLEASE! Go to http://HEMPEMBARGO.COM and help us do something!! ARTICLE: Birdseed Latest Victim in Unending War against Drugs AUTHOR: Patrick McCartney, Auburn Journal DATE: Tuesday, 12 October 1999, at 11:37 a.m. "The number one selling hemp products today are body care and food products, and that's what (the DEA) is going after," Roulac said Friday. "It's a major hassle. This is basically an attack on the Canadian hemp industry." Pubdate: Sun, Oct. 10, 1999 The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration has opened a new front in its ever-expanding war against drugs, and the news is not good for your pet parakeet. On Aug. 9, the U.S. Customs Service seized nearly 20 tons of birdseed at the U.S.-Canadian border and continues to hold the contraband in a Detroit warehouse. The reason? The shipment by Kenex Ltd., a Canadian company, consisted entirely of sterilized seeds gleaned from its harvest of industrial hemp. The reason for this bizarre act by the DEA is that hemp can also be cultivated for its intoxicating effect and in that form is known as marijuana, a drug that is currently illegal. When it seized the Kenex shipment, the DEA announced that the birdseed had a THC content - marijuana's psychoactive ingredient - of .0014 percent. Never mind that marijuana has a typical THC content of 5 percent or more. According to an Oct. 3 article by Christopher Wren in the New York Times, a Kenex official said the Customs Service ordered him to recall earlier exports to the United States of hemp oil, horse bedding, animal feed and granola bars, or face more than $500,000 in fines. The seizure came as a blow to Nutiva, a California company based in Sebastopol that distributes Kenex products in the western United States. According to John Roulac, Nutiva's president, the company has lost $40,000 in sales of its popular Nutiva hempseed bar since the seizure. The Sonoma County company sold 100,000 of the nutritious bars in just the last five months, but with the DEA-ordered action, Nutiva has lost some major accounts, including Rite Aid drug stores, Roulac said. "The number one selling hemp products today are body care and food products, and that's what (the DEA) is going after," Roulac said Friday. "It's a major hassle. This is basically an attack on the Canadian hemp industry." Roulac insists that the hemp products he sells have nothing to do with marijuana. "If you smoke (industrial) hemp, you get a headache," Roulac said. "If you smoke more hemp, you'll get a bigger headache." The DEA's rash act undoubtedly will strengthen the hand of those anti-drug-war activists who claim that the 1937 Marijuana Stamp Act was not aimed at any drug problem,
Re: [CTRL] What are the religious affiliations of Members of the 105th Congress?
-Caveat Lector- The 435 Members of the House, 5 non-voting Delegates, and 100 Senators represent a broad array of faiths. "Broad"!?! I count only two, Christian and Jewish. The counting of Christian sects is a disengenuous manipulation of the stats. The fact is, Christians run this country and use the armed might of the state to enforce the tenets of their religion on the rest of us. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Big Vision for New World Order
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Steven Wallace, Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Big Vision for New World Order Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 12:17 PM What is the New World Order? The essence of the New World Order (NWO) or world management system is that it is management by social engineers, rather than government based on a written constitution. How you are affected by this management system depends on what the social engineers decide the system should do for you and require of you. The social engineers and system managers think of themselves as scientists applying the scientific method to the control of group behavior. Your behavior and your relationships are regarded as the subject of investigation and control by those who call themselves social scientists. You are among their test animals, and you have no say in, and often no knowledge of experiments that involve you. If the NWO is totally implemented, your independence, individuality, and freedom will be gone. There is nothing new about the idea of managing others, or even of controlling the whole world. That has been the goal of social philosophers for thousands of years. However, we need not go back over ancient history. We are concerned primarily with what has been going on in our own generations. This we can understand quite well if we confine ourselves to the Nineteenth and Twentieth Centuries. Goals of the New World Order To begin to understand the New World Order (NWO) you need to forget what you have been told about philosophical differences between Republicans and Democrats; left and right; Socialists and Libertarians; business and labor; liberal and conservative; black and white, etc.. The planners of the New World Order know they must use, influence, and cater to all of these groups to accomplish the goals they are seeking, which are: (1) Consolidate everything. (2) Commercialize everything. (3) Classify everything. (4) Claim everything. (5) Control everything. We might call these goals the five Cs of the New World Order. If it is fully empowered, free speech, personality, personal goals and decisions, individual responsibility, private property, private business, morality, Constitutional government, national sovereignty; and religious freedom can no longer be tolerated. Everyone in every country will be subject to the NWO management system. To quote the French mathematician! philosopher, Auguste Comte (1798-1857), one of the most significant early planners of the world management system: "The most important object of this regenerated polity will be the substitution of Duties for Rights; thus subordinating personal to social considerations. The word Right should be excluded from political language, as the word Cause from the language of philosophy." The only real life is the collective life of the race; individual life has no existence except as an abstraction.2 He also wrote: "When the system is fully regulated, life effect of this will be to secure greater unity, by diminishing the influence of personal character." This means that to the NWO world management system planners you, as an individual, are considered to be without character or personality. Your personal life and personal goals are unimportant to them, unless those goals are consistent with the sociological, economic, and religious goals of the New World Order. Public Schools and The New World Order To demonstrate how NWO sociological, economic and religious goals are being brought about we can look first at the public schools. Most students and parents think the purpose of public schools is to teach essential and interesting information, vocational and recreational skills, considerate and responsible behavior and an appreciation of our countrys history and Constitution. After your formal education is over, your parents expect that you should be able to take responsibility for your own moral, material, and social well-being, and also the moral, material, and social well-being of any children you might have until they, too, are ready to claim such freedom for themselves. At one time the goal of those who planned the school curriculum in the local communities seemed to follow the wishes of parents and the needs of students. Now, however, those sociologists who have the power to affect policy in the public schools do not concern themselves with what you need, what your parents want for you, or with respect and support for the United States Constitution. Their primary goals are to CONSOLIDATE policies, COMMERCIALIZE instruction, CLASSIFY individuals, CLAIM jurisdiction, establish CONTROL, and train you to fit obediently into their world management system without hesitation or protest. In 1928 sociologist Ross L. Finney wrote: A new world is emerging in which the social structures will
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Heavenly Osiris and Earthly Isis? No doubt.
-Caveat Lector-
Lithuanian is generally considered the most conservative of the West IE
languages, followed very closely by Latvian. (I say this cautiously, since I
have quite a few Latvian friends.) It's been said that the speech of a
Lithuanian peasant is the closest thing to the original West IE dialect
possible today. In the early 1920's, before the Baltic countries were given
their (first) independence, Soviet ethnographers did a lot of pioneering
work there, recording an amazing amount of folklore (which for the most part
still has not been translated, AFAIK)--and *filming* "pagan" ceremonies in
the countryside. There is unfortunately some evidence that the "pagan"
rituals were influenced by the romantic Druidism of the 19th-century
folklore movement (James MacPherson, Iolo Morganwg, etc.); I remember seeing
photos of a Latvian song-fest which included "archdruids" tricked out in
idealized white robes, with vaguely Egyptian headdresses and solar brooches
hanging on their chests, looking identical to the Masonic Druids who show up
at Stonehenge every St. John's Day. But the peasant folklore, from what
little I've seen of it, is a dragon's hoard of extremely ancient religious,
cultural, and linguistic material. Knowing very little Latvian myself, I was
startled to realize how much Latvian poetry *looks* like Sanskrit.
Going off on a new tangent, picking up on your last point, can we find
evidence for a *common origin* for the IE and Semitic culture horizons? This
is not as far-fetched as it might seem, since the presumed homelands for
both groups are quite close geographically, although probably not
contiguous. And, once again, where do the frigging Sumerians fit into all of
this?
-Original Message-
From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 6:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Heavenly Osiris and Earthly Isis? No doubt.
-Caveat Lector-
In a message dated 99-10-27 11:17:07 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In the Germanic languages, the moon is male (cf MHG 'der Mond') and the
sun
is female ('die Sonne'); I believe this is echoed in a number of other IE
language groups. Determining to what extent the dichotomy reflects
religious
doctrine/practice is extremely difficult, particularly when, as with the
German and their cousins the Norse, the myths were only collected and
recorded well after the conversion to Christianity and are thus in many
cases closer in spirit to "fairy tales" than to true myths. But see Jaan
Puhvel, *Comparative Mythology*, and J.P. Mallory, *In Search of the
Indo-Europeans*; see also Mircea Eliade, *A History of Religious
Thought*,
vol. 1.
The same in Latvian, my father's native language, and I seem to recall
that
the Letts --if not the oldest, the SECOND oldest group of Indo-Europeans
to
survive culturally intact into the Middle Ages-- honored a moon god and a
sun
goddess. If I have enough time off the job to consult my hefty Sanskrit
dictionary (which includes etymologies), I'll report what the respective
genders of sun and moon are in that ancient IE language.
All to show that, at least ORIGINALLY, both Near Eastern and I-E cultures
shared a tendency to reverse modern sex-roles, in terms of the gender of
planetary deities.
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Re: [CTRL] Prohibitions
-Caveat Lector- No disagreement here. Folks might be interested to look up *The Life and Times of the Late Demon Rum*, by J.C. Furnas (1965??), an "irreverent history" of the Temperance movement and Prohibition. -Original Message- From: Kris Millegan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Prohibitions -Caveat Lector- Bob, there are many "figures" from prohibition, it is a highly propagndized subject. Many are spurious. And interesting fact from prohibition is that the age of imbibement went younger and the treatment of teenage alcoholics increased. Look at the liver disease rates and other statistics and you will find that was no significant dropp in actual alcohol consumption,-how can you have true records of an illegal market?-many studies point to increased consumption and much social disruption. Prohibition was brought about by the subjectation of generation to the temperance message propaganda and was used by many for many purposes. Before refrigeration fermented potables were the norm throughout society. Moderation is always best. Marijuana prohibition is completely without constitutional standing and the government has no authority to prohibit possession of plants that come from God, they do not have the authority. To make alcohol illegal, which is a manufactured item, a constitutional admendment had to be passed. The Drug War is unconstitutional. Drug Peace not war. And yes regulate it, tax it. Here in Oregon, the sale of liquor is regulated and only available from state stores during certain hours. Personally, I like that model much better than liquor on most corners and supermarkets. Om K DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Prohibitions
-Caveat Lector- "It's nobody's business what you do with your own body, least of all the government's." Granted...IF the only person your behavior affects is yourself. BUT when your behavior starts to affect me, whether it be through secondhand smoke or erratic driving, THEN it IS my business. The public costs--that is, the cost to thee and me, the taxpayers--of alcohol and drug abuse (that is, the EXCESSIVE use of intoxicants) are so great that we have an absolute obligation to get involved. I don't give a @#$% how you choose to kill yourself. When you do it in my front yard, however, it is definitely my business. -Original Message- From: nessie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Prohibitions -Caveat Lector- It's all very well and good to argue for decriminalization of drug possession and use, but not if the result is going to be an even greater epidemic of abuse than we're seeing now. (1.) Use _ abuse. (2.) It's nobody's business what you do with your own body, least of all the government's. (3.) When somebody else, not you, decides what goes into your body and what does not go into your body that is exactly and precisely the same thing as rape. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] What are the religious affiliations of Members of the 105th Congress?
-Caveat Lector- As a professor of mine once said, America is the land where Catholics and Jews can live together as Protestants. Cheers, Lucio - Original Message - From: nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] What are the religious affiliations of Members of the 105th Congress? -Caveat Lector- The 435 Members of the House, 5 non-voting Delegates, and 100 Senators represent a broad array of faiths. "Broad"!?! I count only two, Christian and Jewish. The counting of Christian sects is a disengenuous manipulation of the stats. The fact is, Christians run this country and use the armed might of the state to enforce the tenets of their religion on the rest of us. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Prohibitions
-Caveat Lector- The public costs--that is, the cost to thee and me, the taxpayers--of alcohol and drug abuse (that is, the EXCESSIVE use of intoxicants) are so great that we have an absolute obligation to get involved. (1.) That's a WILD claim. Cite the figures and the sources. Exclude the expence of enforcing prohibition laws and promulgating prohibitionist propaganda. Exactly how much money per taxpayer per year are we talking about here? (2.) Anybody who minds healing sick people because some of the money comes out of their own pocket is beneath contempt. As human beings we have an obligation to care for one another. People who believe otherwise are not fully human. Whatever other human like characteristics they may possess, they lack the very essence of humanity. Ergo, they are subhuman. But I'm sure that's not what you meant . . . or is it? Are you subhuman or are you willing, in fact eager, to do your duty as a human being? There's no middle ground. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Heavenly Osiris and Earthly Isis? No doubt.
-Caveat Lector-
On 28 Oct 99, at 6:32, Das GOAT wrote:
-Caveat Lector-
In a message dated 99-10-27 11:17:07 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
In the Germanic languages, the moon is male (cf MHG 'der Mond') and
the sun is female ('die Sonne'); I believe this is echoed in a number
of other IE language groups. Determining to what extent the dichotomy
reflects religious doctrine/practice is extremely difficult,
particularly when, as with the German and their cousins the Norse,
the myths were only collected and recorded well after the conversion
to Christianity and are thus in many cases closer in spirit to "fairy
tales" than to true myths. But see Jaan Puhvel, *Comparative
Mythology*, and J.P. Mallory, *In Search of the Indo-Europeans*; see
also Mircea Eliade, *A History of Religious Thought*, vol. 1.
The same in Latvian, my father's native language, and I seem to recall
that the Letts --if not the oldest, the SECOND oldest group of
Indo-Europeans to survive culturally intact into the Middle Ages--
honored a moon god and a sun goddess. If I have enough time off the
job to consult my hefty Sanskrit dictionary (which includes
etymologies), I'll report what the respective genders of sun and moon
are in that ancient IE language. All to show that, at least
ORIGINALLY, both Near Eastern and I-E cultures shared a tendency to
reverse modern sex-roles, in terms of the gender of planetary
deities.
For anyone with the time and interest, I would recommend going to:
http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit.html
This is an absolutely fabulous site which keeps up to date on
solar/weather goings on--including quakes, solar storms and all
sorts of anomalies including contrails (from a scientific viewpoint)--
as well as mythology--from visionaries who look to the Pleiades to
those who have just come back--in actuality--from the new
Egyptian digs with incredible photographs of the newly opened
tomb of Osiris under the Sphinx--which the infamous Hawass is
using not to inform the world but to ingratiate himself with
Scandinavian royalty.
You could spend weeks here following all the linksand you
would be almost certain to find something to really interest you--
whether your take is pragmatic or otherworldly or somewhere
inbetween.
Kent Steadman --an artist and genius (IMHO) updates the site
almost daily and it is well worth following for the big picture of "the
weather." His site must be one of the most brilliant on the internet
and should be of interest to anyone whose interest goes beyond
the surface of politics.
Prudy--no need to go to the library or the bookstore. It's all on the
internet. You just have to look.
Happy Advenutirng!!
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[CTRL] Fw: We've found two volumes of plastit explosive again in Novosibirsk.
The Committee for National SolidarityTolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU -Original Message-From: Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 6:12 AM Pozdrav iz Sibiri! We've found two volumes of plastit explosive again in Novosibirsk. I work as armed night guard for 40$ a month in the office ofpro-nwo(shity) newspaper, there I ve got access to computer, scanner,printer and internet(sometimes I manage to hack their intranet password). Iprint there anti-sananic materials, about wealthy and corrupted elite.Lists of most significant members of pro NWO structures.These democrats would die finding out whatI do using their progressive property!!! I risk very much, since now they workhard at daytime to hold satanist power over People of Russia. And I do theopposite things at night time at the same place. HA-HA!!! Unfortunately Ihave no time for translation it into Russian language and publishing it onmy future web-pages. At the daytime I try to start busines, I work hard on somebusiness projects.You've heard about renewal of chechen money making war.I am waiting for call to war, speaking true I have no wish to be sacrificedfor their satanic interests.You know that Berezovsky , foreign citizen, is the one of the secret masters of Kremlinpuppets, the open enemy of Russian People provides chechen terrorists withmillions $$$. Everybody knows it. So, make right conclusions!!! Treason governs Russia.Secretary GeneralMrs. Jela JovanovicArt historian Title: Moscow Times Moscow Times October 28, 1999 Korzhakov Says Bombings Were Berezovsky's Doing By Natalya Shulyakovskaya Staff Writer Alexander Korzhakov, a one-time bodyguard and confidant of President Boris Yeltsin who has since fallen out with him, said Wednesday that he believes the terrorist bombings that have swept Russia into panic and war were orchestrated by Russian intelligence at the bidding of a dark Kremlin faction that includes tycoon Boris Berezovsky. Korzhakov said he believes the Kremlin needed the terrorism attacks to renew the war in Chechnya. He said the war was conjured up as part of a drive to establish emergency rule and postpone presidential elections. Korzhakov also said he believed Berezovsky was in the process of trying to engineer the removal from office of Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and his replacement with Krasnoyarsk Governor Alexander Lebed. Korzhakov repeated allegations that when he was the head of the Kremlin's security service, Berezovsky tried to convince him to murder Moscow Mayor Yury Luzhkov, NTV founder Vladimir Gusinsky and popular crooner Iosif Kobzon, an ally of Luzhkov's. Berezovsky could not be reached for comment Wednesday. He was flying abroad, an assistant in his office said. Korzhakov, who is now a deputy in the State Duma, said Berezovsky had turned to him in hopes of arranging the murders of Luzhkov, Gusinsky and Kobzon because Korzhakov had the "necessary resources" at his disposal. He said he had kept quiet about Berezovsky's alleged request that he kill the three men because the Kremlin repeatedly kept Berezovsky in high offices. Korzhakov said he would now file a complaint against Berezovsky over the matter with the Moscow city prosecutor's office. He said he was motivated to act now in part because Berezovsky has announced his candidacy for the Duma. "Now, when [Berezovsky] wants to become a Duma deputy, a people's representative, I have no choice but inform the voters who this person is," Korzhakov said. Korzhakov said Berezovsky would use his Duma seat to pursue his own business interests in Chechnya. "What sort of interests does he have in Chechnya? I am telling you officially that he is a source for the armed fighters," Korzhakov said. "Now Prime Minister Putin has taken an absolutely correct position: to attack. And [Putin] is ready to finish off the terrorists. Who and what can divert him? Boris Abramovich Berezovsky." Title: There are only 2 kinds of people in the world There are only 2 kinds of people in the world. Right and Wrong. No matter where they come from. Patriots or NWO. Being a Patriot always ends with fighting for what is right. No matter what country a person comes from, where ever Patriots fight, it is to fight for what is right in their corner of the world. As Russia is in the grips of a man drunk with power and selling his soul and the country for silver, so is America. We are---every country of the world--- fighting corrupt and Satanic leadership.. The governments are crooked like a dog's hind leg. We try to vote them out but out votes are turned against us by a voting underground of bad persons. It is called VOTESCAM. We are fighting the same enemy. We have to put our political differenses aside and find the common ground. Any money backing a world government is like as pouring sand down a rat hole. You will never have enough sand. You will
[CTRL] OT: Colosseum To Recognize Commutation
-Caveat Lector- Colosseum To Recognize Commutation .c The Associated Press ROME (AP) - Opponents of the death penalty will soon send their message in a spectacular way: the Colosseum will be illuminated by golden lights each time a convict is spared execution. Starting Dec. 12, the Roman amphitheater where thousands of gladiators and wild beasts died in combat is to be permanently lit by white lights. When a death sentence is commuted or postponed anywhere in the world, the lights will turn golden for 48 hours. ``We want to applaud those who accept a moratorium,'' Staffan De Mistura, director of the Rome office of the United Nations, said Thursday. ``There is to be no blaming, no criticism, no finger pointing,'' De Mistura said. ``But certainly rejoicing.'' He said the ancient monument was chosen specifically for its historical link with death. It is to serve as a ``living testimony'' for a moratorium, he said. Nearly half a million people visit the Colosseum in a normal year. Millions of extra tourists and pilgrims are expected for Christianity's 2000 Holy Year. The death penalty initiative at the Colosseum is sponsored by the United Nations, the Italian government and the Vatican. Pope John Paul II, the U.N. human rights commissioner and others are expected to appear on a giant screen at the Dec. 12 inauguration ceremony to push for a death penalty moratorium. AP-NY-10-28-99 1126EDT Copyright 1999 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Snowball Earth?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.spacedaily.com/spacecast/news/earth-99e.html Breathing Oxygen Into Primordial Snowballs Denver - October 27, 1999 - Increasing amounts of oxygen in the atmosphere could have triggered the first of three past episodes when the Earth became a giant snowball, covered from pole to pole by ice and frozen oceans, according to a Penn State researcher. "We have convincing evidence that at least six of the seven continents were once glaciated, and we also have evidence that some of these continents were near the equator when they were covered with ice," says Dr. James F. Kasting, professor of geosciences and meteorology. "Two of these global glaciations occurred at 600 and 750 million years ago, but the earliest occurred at 2.3 billion years ago." According to Kasting, if it is assumed that the magnetic evidence for glaciation at the equator is correct, then only two possible explanations for equatorial glaciation exist. One is that the Earth's tilt, which is now at 23.5 degrees from vertical, was higher than about 54 degrees from vertical. This would have positioned Earth so that the poles received the most solar energy and the equator would receive the least, creating a glacier around the middle but still leaving the poles unfrozen. The other possibility, which is the one that Kasting leans toward now, is that the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere fell low enough so that over millions of years, glaciers gradually encroached from the poles to 30 degrees from the equator. Then, in about 1,000 years, the remainder of the Earth rapidly froze due to the great reflectivity of the already ice-covered areas and their inability to capture heat from the sun. The entire Earth became a snowball with oceans frozen to more than a half mile deep. "For the latest two glaciations, carbon dioxide levels fell low enough to begin the glaciation process. However, for the earliest glaciation, the key may have been methane," Kasting told attendees at the annual meeting of the Geological Society of America today (Oct. 27) in Denver. "The earliest known snowball Earth occurred around the time that oxygen levels in the atmosphere began to rise," says Kasting, who is a member of the Penn State Astrobiology Center. "Before then, methane was a major greenhouse gas in the atmosphere in addition to carbon dioxide and water vapor." As oxygen levels increased, methane levels decreased dramatically and carbon dioxide levels had not built up enough to compensate, allowing the Earth to cool. Oxygen levels need only reach a hundredth of a percent of present-day oxygen levels to convert the methane atmosphere completely. Once the Earth is snow covered, it takes 5 to 10 million years for the natural activity of volcanoes to increase carbon dioxide enough to melt the glaciers. Regardless of the greenhouse gas involved, the pattern of freezing and defrosting would be the same. Because the sun has been constantly increasing in brightness, it would take more greenhouse gas in the past to compensate for the fainter sun. For the glaciations at 600 and 750 million years ago, estimates are that carbon dioxide levels equal to recent pre- industrial levels or up to three times pre-industrial levels would have been sufficient for snowball Earth to occur. Because many continents existed in the warm equatorial areas during the most recent glaciations, Kasting believes that rapid weathering of calcium and magnesium silicate rocks, which consumes carbon dioxide, lowered levels sufficient to cool things. "It would have taken nearly 300 times present levels of carbon dioxide to bring the Earth out of its ice cover," says Kasting. "Then, once the high reflectivity ice was gone, the carbon dioxide would have overcompensated and the Earth would become very warm until rapid weathering would remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere." One reason that many scientists initially rejected the snowball Earth theory was that biological evidence does not suggest that the various forms of life on Earth branched out from the latest total glaciation. A variety of life forms had to survive from before the glaciation, which is difficult to imagine on an ice-covered world. Perhaps the ancestors of life today survived in refuges like hot springs or near undersea thermal vents. "The biological puzzle of snowball Earth is very interesting," says Kasting. "Events suggest that life was more robust than we thought and that the Earth's climate was much less stable than we assumed." === Robert F. Tatman Computer Help Desk Desktop LAN Services Systems Department Philadelphia Newspapers, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 215.854.2729 215.854.2788 The contents of this message represent the opinion only of the writer, and may not be construed to indicate the endorsement of Knight-Ridder, Inc.; Philadelphia Newspapers, Inc.; The Philadelphia Inquirer; or the Philadelphia Daily News. "Artificial intelligence is no match for natural
[CTRL] FW: [PROVE] Congress Looking For Vaccine Damage / Autism Stories
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Dawn Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 3:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PROVE] Congress Looking For Vaccine Damage / Autism Stories (if you submit a story, please copy [EMAIL PROTECTED] - thanks) From: FEAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.feat.org Your Child Damage by Vaccine? - Congress Needs Your Story Now Monday, October 25, 1999 Congressman Dan Burton, who will be holding autism hearings in the spring, is asking anyone who has an autistic child who they feel became that way as the result of vaccine injury -- to send your story to Danielle Sarkine, Burton's daughter so that she can compile them. These stories will be presented to the hearings. (Do not fax them to Burton's office). Our stories are of utmost importance as they demonstrate that this is about vulnerable innocent children whose life promises have been stolen, and not just some academic debate about the proper testing of vaccines. The public, the Congress need to hear of our children's suffering transformations and our own stunned heartbreak as our little one's personality started slipping away. Write your story and tell how your child was ...before vaccination. Did he/she talk at all? Smile? Play? ...What warnings of the risks of vaccines did you get by the provider? ...The type of vaccine administered. ...The date(s) of vaccination(s), ...how long after the vaccinations until you noticed a difference in your child, ...What constitutional and behavioral changes did your child go through, ...the date of diagnosis, and what you were told about chances of recovery. ...What changes did all this cause to your family. Provide your email address and daytime phone number in the event Congress Burton requires any follow-up. Be aware that these will be public documents and whether or not you are comfortable "going public" with such intimate details about your family. Send your story to Danielle at her email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] She will then immediately forward all the information to her father. Your story can make a difference if you tell it now! --- Dawn Richardson PROVE(Parents Requesting Open Vaccine Education) P.O. Box 1071 Cedar Park, TX 78630-1071 (512) 918-8760 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (email) http://home.swbell.net/prove (web site) --- PROVE provides information on vaccines, and immunization policies and practices that affect the children and adults of Texas. Our mission is to prevent vaccine injury and death and to promote and protect the right of every person to make informed independent vaccination decisions for themselves and their families. --- This information is not to be construed as medical OR legal advice. The decision to vaccinate and how you implement that decision is yours and yours alone. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Anthrax vaccinations, Military resistors
-Caveat Lector- I note in the article below that BioPort, the ONLY producer of Anthrax vaccine, on whose board of directors sits CFR member and former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. William J. Crowe Jr According to former Central Intelligence Agency military analyst Patrick Eddington, the estimated $60 million worth of anthrax vaccine Bioport is expected to produce for the Defense Department over the next five years could just be the beginning. The Pentagon has a $322 million, 10-year program to develop at least three, and perhaps as many as a dozen additional biological warfare vaccines, Eddington told ABCNEWS. These have never really been tested, and most importantly, no one has provided data to validate the threat. http://www.abcnews.go.com/onair/2020/2020_990312_anthrax_feature.html Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 1:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Human Experiments Ordered by Clinton on our SOLDIERS! Subj: Human Experiments Ordered by Clinton Date: 10/27/1999 3:05:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (O. Gene Lovell) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Clinton Orders Human Experiments By Timothy W. Maier A HREF=" http://www.insightmag.com/articles/story3.html http://www.insightmag.com/articles/story3.html Executive Order 13139 is requiring military personnel to receive experimental vaccines not approved by the Food and Drug Administration. Courts-martial are pending. A day after Republican Rep. Chris Shays of Connecticut ended congressional hearings on the controversial decision mandating the inoculation of 2.4 million U.S. troops against anthrax, President Clinton quietly signed an executive order, or EO, that denies soldiers the right to refuse experimental vaccines. EO13139, titled "Improving Health Protection of Military Personnel Participating in Particular Military Operations," caught Congress off guard as it directed the Pentagon to disregard the authority of the Food and Drug Administration, or FDA. The order authorized use of experimental vaccines -- t hose not approved by the FDA and therefore illegal -- to be administered to members of the armed forces without informed consent. Some congressmen saw this as an attack by the president on the House Government Reform subcommittee on National Security, Veterans Affairs and International Relations, where testimony indicated the Pentagon had violated the FDA's procedures on how to administer the anthrax vaccine. Those hearings -- as well as others held by the full House Committee on Government Reform -- had put the FDA on the spot for letting the Pentagon disregard sensible FDA regulations. The Pentagon wanted to administer the shots now and, as a result, long-range studies were not conducted and an inadequate reporting system was set up to hide the large number of adverse effects, critics charged. As a result of the unprecedented implementation of the vaccination program, more than 1,000 troops are awaiting trial on a felony charge of refusing to obey, hundreds more have left the armed forces and dozens have been prosecuted. The FDA's failure to take a stand against the Pentagon has prompted a group of concerned congressmen, led by Republican Rep. Walter Jones Jr. of North Carolina, formally to complain to the agency. "The FDA didn't do its job," says Jones, a member of the House Armed Services Committee. "Our men and women are too valuable and they're not going to be guinea pigs." Jones, who has asked the Pentagon's inspector general to launch a probe into the growing anthrax controversy, warns that Clinton's executive order "might encourage more men and women to get out of the military. I think Clinton did it to give cover to what the DOD [or Department of Defense] is doing." And with the FDA having rolled over, Jones says, he is even more determined to learn why the White House and the Pentagon doubled the contract of Michigan-based BioPort Corp., which manufactures the vaccine, from $25.7 million to $49.8 million and at the same time reduced the volume to be delivered by 2.3 million shots (see "Why BioPort Got a Shot in the Arm," Sept. 20). The Pentagon has claimed the inoculation protects against all anthrax strains, and BioPort made the same claim to Insight -- despite the fact that an experiment at the Fort Detrick chemical and biological warfare center in Maryland using guinea pigs showed nine of the 27 anthrax strains tested killed 50 percent of the vaccinated subjects. Kwai-Cheung Chan, the director of the special studies and evaluations, national-security and international-affairs division of the General Accounting Office, testified before the House Government Reform Committee that there have been no studies to "determine the optimum number of doses of the anthrax vaccine. Although annual
[CTRL] Mind control
-Caveat Lector- physical control of the mind:towards a psychocivilized society, by jose m.r. delgado, m. d. excerpt: http://www.clark.net/pub/klaatu/delgado.html other book on brainwashing and cults by paul verdier, ph.d couple of links http://www.mindspring.com/~silent http://www.trufax.org/menu/patents.html http://www.trufax.org/trans/micro.html Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Annie McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 1:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: IG Farben From: Annie McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi catherine, i can tell you that the perps in my life truly believed that what they were doing was for the good of humanity puking. excuse me. anyone here read jose delgado's book about psychocivilized society? i can look up the proper title if anyone is interested although if you search delgado and psychocivilized i'm sure it will pop up on a search engine. these effin people believed the world would be a better place if an elite few made all the decisions for us poor peons who couldn't think for ourselves. it wasn't evil to them. it was making the world a "happier" place. gagging annie --- ONElist Sponsor Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/Productopia2 "Click Here/a DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Another Slant on Pole Shift...
-Caveat Lector- "It is now accepted that, much of the time, Mars joins Uranus and Pluto as the third planet in the Solar System that lies on its side. It's only by chance that its tilt right now is at a reasonable 25 degrees. "Because Mercury and Venus are closer to the Sun, long ago the Sun's larger tidal tuggings greatly slowed their rotation down until their days became months long, and then pulled their equatorial bulges "into line" with the Sun so that they have almost no axial tilt -- but before that happened, their spin axes rocked back and forth even more dramatically. In fact, Venus may have turned completely topsy-turvy at one point, which could explain why today it rotates slowly backwards. "Why didn't this also happen to Earth? For one reason: the existence of our Moon. The Moon's orbit is modestly tilted relative to Earth's equator, so that its own tidal tuggings at Earth's equatorial bulge greatly increase the speed with which Earth's spin axis precesses. "Thanks to the Moon, Earth precesses every 26,000 years, much more rapidly than any of the rhythms in which its orbit wobbles -- and so it doesn't undergo any of the rhythmic resonance effects that would drastically change the amount of its spin-axis tilt. "Its tilt does change back and forth over a 2.5-degree arc every 41,000 years -- and even that slight change is probably enough to cause the Ice Ages." http://www.spacedaily.com/spacecast/news/extrasolar-99m.html Not All Habitable Zones Are Created Equal by Bruce Moomaw Cameron Park - August 9, 1999 - In this series of reports, I'm examining the current tendency of some astronomers to believe that planets habitable to life -- such as Earth -- may be relative rarities. In Part One, I examined the question of the "habitable zone" -- the range of distances around a star in which a planet has a climate that allows the existence of liquid water on its surface -- and noted that the evidence accumulated over the past few years is that the zone is comfortably wide after all. But orbiting in the Habitable Zone is by no means a guarantee by itself that a planet can allow the development of life - and in particular complex life - on its surface. One other serious possible problem is the planet's "obliquity" -- which is simply another name for the tilt of its spin axis. Right now, most of the Solar System's planets have nicely moderate axial tilts. Three of them -- Mercury, Venus and Jupiter -- have tilts of only a few degrees; they are almost perfectly side-on toward the Sun and have no seasons. Earth, Mars, Saturn and Neptune all have reasonable tilts of 23-29 degrees, so that they have moderate seasons as one pole or the other tilts modestly toward the Sun and receives somewhat more sunlight. Only two planets -- Uranus and tiny Pluto -- "lie on their sides", so that during part of their orbits around the Sun one of their poles or the other faces almost directly toward the Sun. Keep in mind that a rotating planet is like a gyroscope -- it continues to tilt in the same direction as it revolves around the Sun during one of its orbits. But this situation may not always have been the case. Smashing Planets It is now completely accepted that, during the formation of the Solar System, there was a long period during which large "proto planets" or "planetesimals" several hundred to several thousand kilometers across were sailing all over the Solar System and crashing into each other and into the gradually forming planets. It seems very likely that both our own Moon and possibly Pluto's moon Charon were created when such objects struck Earth and Pluto with a major blow, splashing a plume of debris into orbit around each planet that later coalesced into a moon. There is a good chance that Uranus' strange tilt was also caused when a protoplanet that may have been ten times as massive as Earth crashed into one of its poles, tipping the planet on its side. Furthermore, recent research in the past few years indicates that the initial tilts of the four small inner metal rich planets may have had completely different tilts from their current angle of tilt. Any planet that rotates has a very slight bulge around its equator because of centrifugal force; and if its axis is tilted, the tidal tuggings of the Sun at this bulge cause the planet's spin axis to very slowly "precess" -- that is, its spin axis slowly slews around like a wobbling top. Earth precesses every 26,000 years -- a process which means, for instance, that thousands of years ago the Pole Star was Vega rather than Polaris. And, mostly as a result of the gravitational tuggings of the giant planets Jupiter and Saturn, the tilt of the inner planets' actual orbits' around the Sun also wobble slightly, in a complex set of rhythms. These shifts in the tilt of the planets' orbits around the Sun are very tiny -- but for over 25 years, it has been recognized that they can interact with
[CTRL] The History of Sex (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- No sex please, I'm Canadian :) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:15:00 -800 From: Wired News Daily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wired News Daily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The History of Sex Wired News - a must-read for the latest information and commentary on our rapidly changing digital world. W I R E D N E W S Top Stories - 12:53PM 28.Oct.99.PDT - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - advertisement At Sun, everything we make, everything we do (and have always done), is about launching companies into the Network Age. So whats next for the dot in .com? Click here to learn more... http://ads16.focalink.com/SmartBanner/page?14466.21-$GMT$ - - - - - - - - - The History of Sex (Technology 3:00 a.m.) http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,32156,00.html?tw=wn19991028 Men and women may have more in common than we ever dreamed. Scientists report that the ancestor of today's human sex chromosomes evolved from an identical set long ago. By Lindsey Arent. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Why Men Are That Way (Technology 3:00 a.m.) http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,32162,00.html?tw=wn19991028 A researcher in Texas has created a male mouse with two X chromosomes. His findings call into question the widely accepted belief that gender is determined by the XX or XY configuration. Kristen Philipkoski reports from San Francisco. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A Day to Buy on Wall Street (Reuters 9:10 a.m.) http://www.wired.com/news/reuters/0,1349,32188,00.html?tw=wn19991028 With fears of inflation eased for the moment, investors drove the Dow up more than 200 points during the first part of the trading day. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . MP3s Anywhere You Are (Technology 3:00 a.m.) http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,32109,00.html?tw=wn19991028 It's easy to set up and works like a charm -- a wireless gadget that transmits MP3s to your stereo. But does it have an edge over up-and- coming MP3 CD players? Review by Christopher Jones. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . No Y2K Plane for Lawyers? (Reuters 7:00 a.m.) http://www.wired.com/news/reuters/0,1349,32181,00.html?tw=wn19991028 Proactive and forward-thinking Lufthansa wants to prove it's ready for the calendar rollover by taking a gaggle of journalists on a test flight Thursday. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 'Digital' Answer to Road Rage (Technology 3:00 a.m.) http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,32130,00.html?tw=wn19991028 Mad because that hulking SUV in the right lane wont let you in? Would it matter if you flashed a happy green light to say "please?" Psychologists in Virginia think it might work. By Joanna Glasner. . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aussies Want Power on the Rocks (Technology 8:35 a.m.) http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,32177,00.html?tw=wn19991028 Australia spends US$6 million to power homes with electricity created by super-heated water and underground rocks. From the Environment News Service. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bidtime for Beemer (Reuters 8:45 a.m.) http://www.wired.com/news/reuters/0,1349,32182,00.html?tw=wn19991028 Absolutely citeeverybody/cite wants that new BMW SUV, haven't you heard? Make the winning bid on eBay, and be the first on your block to own one. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Global Hunt for MP3 Pirates (Reuters 8:15 a.m.) http://www.wired.com/news/reuters/0,1349,32180,00.html?tw=wn19991028 The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry says it will target not only individuals who illegally copy music, but also ISPs who may be hosting the sites. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Report: Schools Failing at Y2K (Politics 3:00 a.m.) http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,32176,00.html?tw=wn19991028 US schools are still playing catch-up getting their systems Y2K ready. The Department of Education releases a survey that gives the educational system poor marks. Declan McCullagh reports from Washington. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Drug Sites May Be Hazardous (Reuters 3:00 a.m.) http://www.wired.com/news/reuters/0,1349,32172,00.html?tw=wn19991028 Researchers find that Viagra and other potentially lethal drugs are frequently sold over the Web with little or no medical evaluation, and recommend state licensing boards restrict access. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Women's Work Is on the Web (Culture 3:00 a.m.) http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,31674,00.html?tw=wn19991028 Creative women who've encountered sexist attitudes offline are exploiting the gender anonymity of the Net to
[CTRL] FW: BARR TESTIFIES FOR LIMITS ON EXECUTIVE ORDERS
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Barr, Press [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 2:56 PM To: Barr, Press Subject: BARR TESTIFIES FOR LIMITS ON EXECUTIVE ORDERS BARR TESTIFIES FOR LIMITS ON EXECUTIVE ORDERS MOVES TO REASSERT CONGRESSIONAL POWERS WASHINGTON, DC -- U.S. Representative Bob Barr (GA-7) testified today before the House Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative Law.Barr spoke on behalf of his legislation, the Executive Order Limitation Act of 1999. Barr's legislation requires the President to provide Congress with copies of any executive order, and gives Congress a 30 day window within which to reject or modify the proposal. The measure includes specific exemptions for orders that deal with legitimate emergencies. "In recent decades, presidents have repeatedly used executive orders to create policy, and thereby circumvent the powers of Congress. For example, President Clinton has issued more than 275 separate executive orders since coming into office. Many of these orders clearly bypass the legislative branch of our government, and create policy for the United States. In doing so, they violate the principle of separation of powers, which was intended by the Founding Fathers to be America's first and best defense against tyranny," said Barr. "If we allow abuses by one president to continue unchecked, the next occupant of the office will inherit increased power. We must draw the line now, and reassert the clear power possessed by Congress -- not the President -- to determine and enact national policy by passing laws. To do otherwise is to invite abuses, such as President Roosevelt's Executive Order which forced many law-abiding Japanese Americans into internment camps during World War II," Barr continued. Barr, a former United States Attorney, serves on the House Judiciary Committee. For additional information on this and other issues, please visit our website at http://www.house.gov/barr or to send a letter to the editor go to http://www.house.gov/barr/letter.html To be removed from this list, please reply with REMOVE in the Subject line. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] US cattle fed manure and wood shavings
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart GUARDIAN (London) Science Editor Thursday October 28, 1999 US cattle fed manure and wood shavings What's wrong with our food? - special report Tim Radford, Beef producers in the US still use poultry litter as stock feed. The mix of chicken manure and wood shavings is, says the North Carolina extension service, "an economical and safe source of protein, minerals and energy for beef cattle". American farmers still also use bone and feather meals to beef up output. But in both Britain and France - and everywhere in the EU - such experiments officially came to an end long ago, and European cows and sheep are back on vegetarian diets. They are supplied with high protein, high energy cakes and crunch bars made from apple pomace, bakery products and barley, full fat soya, grape pulp and grass meal, maize gluten, malt residuals, mango and manioc, sunflower, sweet lupins and sweet potato, stuck together with minerals, molasses and vegetable oils of any description. Farmers need cheap food, so manufacturers use what waste products are sold locally, and everywhere in Europe, the precise recipe for the cattle equivalent of the crunchy cereal bar is slightly different. Alexander During of Fefac, the European consortium of agricultural feed suppliers in Brussels, said one thing was clear. "We have a ban on animal protein throughout the EU. There is a total ban on mammalian meat and bone meal for the whole of the EU. The one difference between the EU and the UK and the rest of Europe is that, because of commercial pressures, the UK people do not use tallow as an animal ingredient and have to replace it with fat of vegetable origin." Mike Evans, of the UK Agricultural Supply Trade Association, agreed that French cattle diets are very like British ones. "They will use many of the ingredients we use in the UK, which is why we are a little shocked at the revelation that, allegedly, human and animal excrement had been used," he said. "They most certainly use fat from rendering plants to provide energy in the diets. We don't since BSE. We use vegetable oil, they use both." Animal fats are a valuable source of high energy: if pure, they do not contain the rogue proteins that have been fingered as the culprit behind BSE or the new form of CJD which has so far taken 43 lives. So tallows recovered from rendering plants go into French cattle feed. Most European nations will also allow fishmeal as a protein source, and even poultry meal, but the French have banned everything except hydrolised fish meal: fish protein converted to a kind of Marmite. In Britain and other parts of Europe in the 1960s and 70s, there were experiments with poultry litter, town sewage sludge and farmyard slurry as sources of cattle feed. If fermented, experts argued, these could provide safe supplements rich in nitrogen. But the experiments "In this era, in this climate, it turns us off to even think about it, but back in the 60s and 70s, things were different, and it was all about cheap food policy and utilising materials and nutrient value. I am referring to poultry litter now," Mr Evans said. Mr During agreed. Neither human nor animal excrement was an acceptable source of food for livestock. But he conceded that it might still be possible in businesses where feed was mixed on the farm. Wheat straw is a high fibre diet of low food value: if treated with ammonia, however, the fibres break down to produce protein and carbohydrates. = *** NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NEW EVIDENCE FOR POSSIBLE HUGE PLANET BEYOND PLUTO
-Caveat Lector- Well Guys, I think this goes a long way to solving one of life's greatest mysteries.. Peter - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 6:02 AM Subject: RESEND: CNI News -- Vol. 5, No. 16, Part 1 -- Oct 16, 1999 NEW EVIDENCE FOR POSSIBLE HUGE PLANET BEYOND PLUTO Is It the Sumerian Nibiru Predicted By Zecharia Sitchin? The astronomy world buzzed with excitement on October 7 as newly announced evidence from two separate research teams appeared to confirm the existence of a huge planet-like body far beyond the orbit of Pluto. For decades, astronomers have speculated that such a planet must exist. "Wobbles" in the known outer planets seem to require it. Now, observations of incoming comets apparently ejected from the extremely remote Oort Cloud by some strong gravitational force lend credence to the idea of a giant planet circling our solar system at a distance of perhaps three trillion miles, or half a light year. Dr. John Murray of Britain's Open University has been studying the behavior of so-called long period comets for decades. He has focused attention on thirteen such comets whose behavior suggests the gravitational action of a large body near the Oort Cloud, a field of primordial rock, ice and dust that envelopes the entire solar system. Speaking to BBC News Online, Murray said, "Although I have only analysed 13 comets in detail, the effect is pretty conclusive. I have calculated that there is only about a one in 1,700 chance that it is due to chance." In a research paper to be published in mid-October in the Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, Murray suggests that the so-far unseen planet is several times larger than Jupiter. Furthermore, he says, the planet appears to orbit the sun in the "wrong" direction, opposite the orbit of all the known planets. This could mean that the huge object may be a so-called "rogue planet" that drifted in from very deep space and was captured by the sun's gravity. Similar conclusions have been separately reached by physicists John Matese, Daniel Whitmire and Patrick Whitman at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. They too were watching the oddly orderly behavior of certain long period comets and began to suspect that a very large body was moving near the Oort Cloud. "We were driven to this by rejecting everything else we could think of," Daniel Whitmire told ABC News. The findings of John Matese and colleagues will be published in an upcoming edition of the journal Icarus. In that article, Matese refers to the object as possibly a "brown dwarf" and estimates its mass at three times that of Jupiter. According to Murray, if the presumed planet were in a circular orbit, it would take nearly six million years to circle the sun. Also, despite its enormous size, it would be extremely faint, giving off no light of its own, and probably could not be detected even by the Hubble Telescope. But the next generation of space-based telescopes, which would include ultra-sensitive infrared sensors, might be able to find it. Meanwhile, the discussion of a huge new planet has aroused the particular interest of researchers familiar with the work of Sumerian scholar Zecharia Sitchin. In a series of books called "The Earth Chronicles," Sitchin has eloquently argued that the ancient Sumerian civilization knew very well about this huge outer planet and described it -- and its extraterrestrial inhabitants, whom they called the Anunnaki or Nefilim -- in great detail. Indeed, says Sitchin, the very origin and early history of the human race are intimately tied to this planet, which the Sumerians called Nibiru. Neil Freer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has studied Sitchin's work for more than two decades and has written a book, "Breaking the Godspell" (Falcon Press, 1987), in which he further develops the possible implications of Nibiru's influence upon past and current humanity. On hearing of the discoveries of David Murray, John Matese et al, Freer wasted no time publicly pointing out the obvious parallels with the predicted existence of Nibiru. Freer's open letter to BBC Online News Science Editor Dr. David Whitehouse, posted to the internet, provides a brief but authoritative introduction to Sitchin's ideas and to the history of scientific discoveries in support of the reality of Nibiru. Freer has granted permission to CNI News to reproduce his letter to Whitehouse in full, as follows: Re: Announcement by Dr. John Murray, UK's Open University of possible tenth planet in our solar system through analysis of cometary data I wish to call to your attention that Zecharia Sitchin, Sumerian scholar and author of the Earth Chronicle Series of books, revealed the existence, size, orbit, and detailed characteristics of the tenth planet in our solar system 25 years ago through the translation of the Enuma Elish (When in the
[CTRL] REQUEST LIST FOR MESSAGES YOU MAY HAVE MISSED
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! REQUEST LIST FOR MESSAGES YOU MAY HAVE MISSED by Dot Bibee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 10/28/99 I didn't send out any messages yesterday - except for the messages that were requested from MY first list No. 1-24. (These are numbered and does NOT refer to the dates of the articles). I was surprised at the response. I have only sent out 1-7 on these - and plan to finish sending the rest of them today - God willing. I also received many new messages yesterday - and these are important to share with YOU if you did not receive them. THIS morning I received MORE - plus some phone calls(!!!) - so I will have MORE this afternoon. THIS list is No. 25-33 so please don't miss looking these over - because some of these ARE important. You know I can't put ALL messages that I receive on this list - but I am going to try to list the most important. I also had request for PAST articles - and you do know these take longer to retrievebut I will try. (I hope I am going to have time to do this - and take care of my "regular" duties - because I am retired - and take care of the house and three dogs and work in the yard (my favorite thing to do). I appreciate all the messages of concern about the death in my family. My son's father (my Ex-Husband) died - and although we have been divorced for many years, he was a part of my family as well because of my son. A lot of things had to be put on hold because of it. I took care of the house, phone calls, visitors, etc., and didn't get too much done. REQUEST these by number or title. Oct25. CLINTON: 31 Executive Orders have been issued in 1999. (Go to http://www.whitehouse.gov) go to www.worldnetdaily.com and click on Executive Orders Oct26. CLINTON: Text of Executive Order 13139 "Improving Health Protection of Military Personnel Participating in Particular Military Opeations (In other words - they will be forced to take Anthrax Shots). See Oct 14 and Oct 15 from the list yesterday Oct27. CLINTON: DRUDGE REPORT 10/26/99. (1) Clinton Aides Now Challenge Bombing of Sudan Pharmaceutical Plant. (Happened Aug. 98 - and YES, I challenged it by writing a "Warning Letter to Congress that Americans were not going to Take this" - but I was wrong. They did!! (3) Foxy Gingrich - Fox News Network has hired Newt Gingrich. (4) Keep in Touch - Give a Dog a Phone. (5) Birthday Bash for Hillary. Oct28. INDONESIA - Ready to Free East Timor. (USA Today) Oct29. LEAR JET FAILURE. (News Story) Makes ME wonder if this has to do with Y2K because of all of the predictions about "aircraft" and the warnings NOT to fly on Dec. 31. The auto pilot is controlled by a computer - and it is evident that the plane was being controlled by the auto pilot and not the REAL pilot. Oct30. QUOTATION: If Ye Love Wealth Better Than Liberty - from R. L. Armey. Yes, Rex - it seems a lot of Americans do - or else they would be SCREAMING and doing something about saving America. Oct31. NEW WORLD ORDER: The plans to change the time and the law are now in place. "The Cutting Edge. Oct32. NEW WORLD ORDER: U.N. NGO'S call for the end of both national sovereignth an marriage. (Fwd. by David Feustel) "Financial Privacy". Oct33. TENNESSEE: Gov. Don Sundquist Unveils Tax Reform Plan (MSNBC). IMPORTANT - since the governor is calling a SPECIAL SESSION of the Tennessee Legislature on Friday. I don't think he knows the meaning of using a red pencil. The best way to trim a budget is to take a little away from all budget items. The problem is the BLOATED Tennessee budget and keeping the GRANTS going after they run out. The legislature should have thought about this before accepting these FEDERAL grants. Oct34. ALERT: BLUE ANGEL PLANE CRASHES ON A PRACTICE RUN (Just after 2:00 pm 10/28). Just heard this on Fox News and will be getting a full report from the NEWS online ASAP. My house in Pensacola (still there rented out) is just across the Bayou from the Blue Angel Hangar - and I lived through many of their practice runs OVER my house The men who fly with the Blue Angels are very special people - so this incident is very disturbing to me. MORE LATER. POSTED BY: THE FREEDOM NOW NETWORK %Dot Bibee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Knoxville, TN Ph/FAX (423) 577-7011 **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and
[CTRL] A Soldier on Christmas
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email Inspiration List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To those who love much, much will be forgiven them! 'Twas the night before Christmas, he lived all alone, in a one-bedroom house made of plaster and stone. I had come down the chimney with presents to give, and to see...just who in this home did live. I looked all about, a strange sight I did see: no tinsel, no presents, not even a tree. No stocking by mantle, just bootsfilled with sand. On the wall hung pictures of far distant lands. with medals and badges, awards of all kinds, a sober thought came through my mind. For this house was different, it was dark and dreary, I found the home of a soldier, once I could see cleary. The soldier lay sleeping, silentalone, curled up on the floor in this one bedroom home. The face was so gentle, the room in such disorder, not how I pictured a United States soldier. Was this the hero of whom I'd just read? curled up on a poncho, the floor for a bed? I realized the families that I saw this night, owed their lives to these soldiers who were willing to fight. Soon, round the world, the chidren would play, and grownups would celebrate a bright Christmas Day. They all enjoyed freedom each month of the year, because of te soldiers, like the one lying here. I couldn't help wonder how many lay alone, on a cold Christmas Eve in a land far from home. The very thought brought a tear to my eye, I dropped to my knees and started to cry. The soldier awakened and I heard a rough voice, "Santa don't cry, This life is my choice; I fight for freedom, I don't ask for more, my life is my God, my country, my Corps." The soldier rolled over and drifted to sleep, I couldn't control it, I continued to weep. I kept watch for hours, so silent and still and we both shivered from the night's cold chill. I didn't want to leave on that cold, dark, night this guardian of honor so willing to fight. Then the soldier rolled over, with a voice soft and pure, whispered, "Carry on, Santa it's Christmas Day, All is secure." One look at my watch, and I knew he was right. "Merry Christmas my Friend, and to all a good night." ~ This poem was written by a Marine stationed in Okinawa Japan. The following is his request. I think it is reasonable. PLEASE. Would you do me the kind favor of sending this to as many people as you can? Christmas will be coming soon and some credit is due to our U.S. service men and women for our being able to celebrate these festivities. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Real Americans don't wear UN blue!
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! From: Daniel New [EMAIL PROTECTED] Real Americans don't wear UN blue! If you are a veteran, or know a veteran, I invite each of you to go to our website and "enlist" in our Red, White Blue Battalion. When individuals tell me that there are virtually no veterans, and no officers who stand with Michael New (honorable soldier who refused to wear UN blue), I will be referring them to this page. It's only just started, so this is the ground floor. You can tell folks, "I enlisted when it was a short list!" :-) http://www.mikenew.com/battalion.html Real Americans don't wear UN blue! **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] HR2655
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October 26, 1999
Presidential Power Grab
by U.S. Representative Ron Paul (Texas)
Do you want our military to be moved under the United Nations command without
congressional approval? Do you know that a change in policy now requires our
military to absorb a nuclear first strike and only retaliate afterward?
Representative Jack Metcalf served in the U.S. Army, and I was an Air Force
flight surgeon, and as members of the U.S. House of Representatives we think
these are terrible policies.
Unfortunately, Presidential Decision Directive 25 (PDD 25) takes the matter of
U.S. troops in U.N. operations completely out of the hands of Congress. And PDD
60 replaces the proven deterrence of our launch-on-warning policy with a new
policy requiring the U.S. military to take a hit the Pentagon brass will
probably know is coming, retaliating afterward. PDD 25 and PDD 60 are
classified and the exact texts have not been made available even when requested
by members of Congress, but from the "summary" of each PDD we have been allowed
to see and sources familiar with the actual documents, that is what they appear
to say.
And we dont want the White House to implement international treaties that are
bad for America. By law, the president must submit international agreements to
the U.S. Senate for advice and consent, and two-thirds of the senators must
concur. Some treaties, like the so-called "treaty on global warming," are so
costly and unfair to Americans that President Clinton is actually afraid to
submit them to the U.S. Senate out of fear the senators wont go along.
In fact, President Clinton wrote Executive Order 13107 (EO 13107) so he could
implement such treaties on his own
and we dont like that either. It certainly
is unconstitutional.
Something is awfully wrong with these executive orders (PDDs are really just a
fancy category of EOs). True, executive orders have a place in running the
routine business of the executive branch and seeing that laws passed by
Congress are duly executed. It is a presidents expansion of that limited
authority in order to do things he could never get accomplished through the
legitimate legislative process that has given us the crises we see today.
Today, if President Clinton wants a law he knows the peoples duly-elected
representatives wont pass, all he does is write an EO or PDD and it "becomes
law." Isnt that what an old-fashioned king would do
ignore the constitutional
limits on his authority and rule by edict?
Some of us have had enough. Thats why Jack Metcalf and I recently introduced
H.R. 2655 in the U.S. House of Representatives. We call the bill The Separation
of Powers Restoration Act, and if it passes, it will stop this president and
future presidents from trying to run our country as though they had been
elected king.
Its a mistake, though, to place all the blame for this abuse of power on any
single president. Congress and the courts have stood by while the misuse of
executive orders has grown to gigantic proportions. Thats why succeeding
presidents have been tempted to see how much more they can get away with, until
there are now over 13,000 executive orders on the books! Congress just isnt
paying attention.
When Congress is asleep at the switch, its up to the public to send them a
wake-up call. In order for Representative Metcalf and I to get our legislation
brought to the floor of the House for debate, we are asking every citizen who
shares our concern to contact their own representative and ask him or her to
become a co-sponsor. Thanks to the Internet, thats a lot easier than it used
to be. Just go to www.ExecutiveOrders.org and follow the simple instructions to
see if your congressman is already a co-sponsor of H.R. 2655, and if not, press
a button to tell them to get on board. If you dont have Internet access at
home or at the office, try your local library.
What the president is doing with these EOs and PDDs is just un-American,
theres no other way to put it. A chief complaint American colonists made
against King George before the Revolutionary War was that he took powers that
were not rightfully his, and then as king, used those powers to the
disadvantage of the people. How is that different from what the president is
doing now? If you go to www.ExecutiveOrders.org and find your representative is
not a co-sponsor of H.R. 2655, will you ask him that question?
Its time to send Congress a wake-up call!
Ron Paul, M.D., is a member of Congress from Texas.
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[CTRL] [BCPolitics] Chief Derriksen at the UN: Will US Be Hoisted On Its Own Petard?
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[CTRL] Major PC Makers Creating Non-Windows Products
-Caveat Lector- Don't forget to shut the Gate behind you Bill.. Peter From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="aol://4344:2564.pc28.27791869.625574578"Click here: Major PC Makers Creating Non-Windows Products/A Major PC Makers Creating Non-Windows Products Reuters NEW YORK (Oct 28) - Major personal-computer makers are quietly working on products that won't use Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating system, which has cemented the software giant's market power, the Wall Street Journal said. The desktop machines, expected to be announced as early as next year, will be designed primarily to surf the Internet and will be priced well below standard PCs running Windows 98, unnamed software industry executives told the Journal. If sales of such machines were to take off, they could erode Microsoft's desktop dominance, the Journal said. The makers are taking a variety of approaches, the paper said. Gateway Inc. is building a line with no Microsoft software whatsoever, and may jointly market it with America Online Inc. which recently invested $800 million in Gateway, people familiar with their plans told the Journal. Other industry executives told the Journal that Compaq Computer Corp. hasn't yet decided what software to use in its Internet line. Dell Computer Corp. also plans a line of Internet computers, some with Microsoft software and some without, the Journal reported. Microsoft is rushing to keep PC makers in its fold, working with them on MSN Web Companion, an Internet machine tied to its MSN Internet service, the Journal said. In a separate article in Thursday's Journal, the paper said a move toward Web-based computing, together with expectations of a negative ruling in the U.S. government's antitrust case against Microsoft and a close reading of the software giant's revenue numbers, are leading some money-managers to scale back their holdings in the company. 04:27 10-28-99 We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [BRIGADE] 2 Field Reports: PJB VA NH
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Dear Brigade, more excellent field reports from our friends Bill Hawkins - Virginia Brigade and Mark Santelman - New Hampshire Brigade GO BRIGADE GO Linda From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:21:59 EDT Subject:Something for the Brigades To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linda: Thought I'd send you something to send on to the Brigades if you think it's appropriate. - Hawk I attended Pat Buchanan's announcement of his shift to the Reform Party. After his speech, a reporter from a major newspaper chain (Gannett) interviewed me. He asked me what I thought of "rumors" that Pat was merely a Republican agent sent to take over the Reform Party. What nonsense, I exclaimed! Had the reporter not seen the vitriolic attacks from the GOP Establishment and Pat's own anguish over leaving the party to which he had devoted his career? This was just another sign of how many levels and angles Pat's enemies are using to discredit his run. I quickly brushed aside the reporter's oddball thesis and replied that if anyone was a Republican plant to neutralize the Reform Party it was Donald Trump. What other role could the sudden appearance of Trump, a man with no prior political ambitions or signs of interest in national policy, have but to take the Reform Party out of the picture? The only purpose of the Reform Party is to provide an alternative to the two Establishment parties; a Trump nomination would end that role. Trump has made (and lost) fortunes in real estate and other ventures, but is best known to the public for an ego the size of Trump Towers, his flamboyant ex-wife Ivana and a recent series of TV ads hawking pizza. As a political thinker, he is such a cartoon character that he makes the other contending lightweight millionaire, Steve Forbes, look like John Stuart Mill in comparison. Trump represents everything Pat's campaign is protesting. In his historic speech, Pat assailed the fact that "neither [party] fights today with conviction and courage to rescue God's country from the cultural and moral pit into which she has fallen. The day of the outsider is over in the Beltway parties; the money men have seen to that." Trump is the penultimate money man, who denounces the GOP for being run by "the crazy right" whom he sees as already being too concerned with cultural and moral issues. The "money men" care for nothing beyond money. In the short-term that is their strength in our corrupt political system, but in the long-term it is their weakness and the ruin of the country. I am reminded of the words of Joseph Schumpeter, one of the giants of modern economic thought. A staunch defender of capitalism, he lionized the entrepreneur as the key to the system's success. In his classic work Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy (written after he had fled Nazi Germany for America and first published in 1942), Schumpeter predicted the failure of socialism as an economic system. Yet, he still warned that Western Civilization was doomed. He feared the material success of capitalism would catapult businessmen into positions of national and social power to which they were totally unsuited. Their narrow views and disinterest in cultural values would destroy the "steel frame" that held society together. From his long study of history, Schumpeter concluded: "We have seen that the industrialist and the merchant, as far as they are entrepreneurs, also fill a function of leadership. But economic leadership of this type does not readily expand...into the leadership of nations. On the contrary, the ledger and the cost calculation absorb and confine." The business class, he continued "is ill equipped to face the problems, both domestic and international, that have normally to be faced by a country of any importance." It would be hard to write a better description of Donald Trump. The problem with the Republican Party is that is has already fallen under the control of the "business class." When Steve Forbes, a man whose name is synonymous with Wall Street, is touted as the leading "conservative" candidate in the GOP field, you know the game is over. To give the Reform Party to Trump would make it indistinguishable from the GOP. Only Pat Buchanan can give meaning to the existence of the Reform Party; and only the Reform Party can provide the American people with a true alternative in the 2000 election. --- Bill Hawkins From: "Santelman Associates" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Pat in NH Date sent: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:40:54 -0400 ANOTHER NH FIELD REPORT Dear Linda, New Hampshire has had several opportunities to see Pat and my family has cherished each one. We know that after this past Monday night he may not return for awhile; we must let Pat go to
Re: [CTRL] Tales of the Underclass
-Caveat Lector- Das GOAT wrote: In most American cities, a large percentage of the working poor see most of their income go into the hands of real estate speculator landlords. In San Francisco, yours truly has to work 40 hours a week at a very demanding high-stress, "above-average" pay job just to be able --with not one penny left over--.to pay my RENT, for a modest studio apartment in a bad neighborhood. (My wife has to do the same so that we can EAT as well.) "...the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." --Thomas Jefferson In October 1967, my dad bought a single family home for $19,500. This month, that house sold for $230,000. The point is I can not afford to live in the neighborhood in which I grew up. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Fwd) ACCURACY IN MEDIA TO APPEAL FOSTER DECISION
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:45:43 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Judicial Watch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:ACCURACY IN MEDIA TO APPEAL FOSTER DECISION Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Joe Giganti October 27, 1999(202) 646-5172 ACCURACY IN MEDIA TO APPEAL FOSTER DECISION (Washington, D.C.) On October 26, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit issued an opinion affirming the lower court's decision not to release to Accuracy in Media, Inc. (AIM) crime scene photos of White House Deputy Counsel Vincent Foster, who was found dead on July 20, 1993. AIM, a non-profit media watchdog organization, has been investigating the Foster death since 1994. Its investigation has been severely hampered by the unexplained disappearance of many crime scene photos and all autopsy X-rays. The U.S. Park Police investigators naively concluded that a gun in Foster's hand was proof that he killed himself. A photo of this revolver that was leaked to the media shows the importance of photos in determining whether or not the findings of the official investigations are valid. The photo shows that the explanation the police gave for the gun not having fallen from Foster's hand when it was fired is false. They claimed Foster's thumb was stuck in the trigger guard and that the gun had to be partially cocked to slip it down past his thumb joint. The photo shows only the tip of the thumb in the trigger guard. The gun was not stuck on the thumb. The most important discrepancy exposed by a crime scene photo is the government's denial of a wound on Foster's neck. Miquel Rodriguez, the prosecutor hired by Starr to investigate this case, ordered a blow up of an original Polaroid of the right side of Foster's neck. It showed what has been described as "a dime-sized wound...marked by a black stippled ring...suggestive of a .22 caliber gunshot fired at point blank range." It is located where paramedic Richard Arthur said he saw a small-caliber bullet wound, under the jaw line near the ear. The Fiske Report says that the crime-scene and the autopsy photos don't show such a wound. Dr. Brian Blackbourne, Starr's pathologist, admitted that the autopsy photos showed a mark on "the side of the right upper neck just below the jaw line." He claimed it was "small fragments of dried blood" that had escaped being washed off before the photos were taken. Another expert says Blackbourne could not possibly tell that from a photograph. There is no evidence that any of these pathologists were shown the Polaroid blow up that Rodriguez had made. It is obvious that the U.S. Park Service is fighting the release of the crime scene photos because they expose deliberate efforts by government investigators to cover up evidence that proves that Vince Foster did not die the way their reports say he did. The reason and nature of the death is important because Foster was involved in the misuse of FBI files and other improper matters. "AIM intends to file a petition for a rehearing en banc with the appeals court," said Larry Klayman, Chairman and General Counsel of Judicial Watch. AER ~~~ Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its
[CTRL] (Fwd) Soft Money Transfers / Announcement
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: 28 Oct 99 1647 EST From: Public Disclosure, Inc - FECInfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Soft Money Transfers / Announcement Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Public Disclosure, Inc - FECInfo www.tray.com Two Items: -- Acquisition news -- Large Soft Money Transfers Item 1: On October 22, 1999, Public Disclosure Inc was acquired by Netivation.com Inc. Details are described in today's press release. We continue to do what we do best and are expanding the staff for data collection and database development. We see this as a great opportunity to do even more in the political information arena. Item 2: Our next e-mail will be on Monday, November 1st. However, there were a few items in the paper copies of the recent soft money reports that may be of an immediate interest - prior to election day, Nov 2. Only some of the soft money accounts (RNC, NRSC, DSCC) of the National Parties filed reports for September. They show numerous transfers of money to the states: Democrats go big into New Jersey: DSCC transfers $185,000 ($500 to $5,000 each) to 51 New Jersey candidates. DSCC transfers $64,300 to the New York State Democratic Com. 9/22 DSCC transfers $45,000 ($5,000 each) to nine candidates in Virginia DSCC transfers $25,000 to the Old Dominion Grass Roots Fund, Richmond, VA 9/29 DSCC transfers $28,750 to Michigan Democratic Party 9/28 Republicans go big into Mississippi and Missouri: RNC transfers $250,000 to Mike Parker for Governor (MS) 9/8 RNC transfers $295,000 to Mike Parker for Governor (MS) 9/27 RNC transfers $25,000 to Hawks for Lt Governor (MS) 9/28 RNC transfers $68,000 to Mississippi Republican party 9/28 RNC transfers $200,000 to Talent for Governor (MO) 9/29 RNC transfers $100,000 to Talent for Governor (MO) 9/29 RNC transfers $25,000 to Florida Republican Party 9/17 NRSC transfers $10,000 to Republican party of Florida 9/30 RNC transfers $27,460 to Indiana Republican State Central Com 9/13 RNC transfers $3,000 to Massachusetts Republican Party 9/24 RNC transfers $25,000 to Michigan Republican Party 9/20 RNC transfers $45,000 to Minnesota Republican party 9/13 RNC transfers $10,000 to Nevada Republican party 9/23 RNC transfers $2,000 to North Carolina Republican Party 9/2 RNC transfers $30,000 to Republican State Central Executive Com of Ohio 9/28 RNC transfers $50,000 to Pennsylvania Republican party 9/23 Kent Cooper Tony Raymond Public Disclosure Inc - FECInfo www.tray.com AER ~~~ Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [CTRL] A Message From Steve Forbes...and a reply.
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 3:58 PM Subject: A Message From Steve Forbes Steve Forbes asked me to forward the message below to you personally. [EMAIL PROTECTED] And here is my personal reply. I HAVE HAD MORE POLITICAL CRAP FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER THAN I DESERVE TO GET IN A THOUSAND LIFETIMES. And you, Steve are a Crapmeister par excellence. Where is that "first Internet campaign" you boasted about? If you wanted an Internet campaign you would have set up an email list/discussion and answered some honest questions. Here's one-You talked about restoring America to a "shining city on a hill". So let's put the useless metaphor aside. A city is a city. What would a MODEL CITY be like with you as President? Suppose one were built anew, like Jubail, Saudi Arabia or New Bombay (Navi Mumbai), India, or the proposed new cities of Anandapour, Punjab and Subia, Kuwait and Cyberjaya, Malaysia. What would it be like? If you can't tell us about one city in America which would solve the presenting problems I don't see why anyone should trust you with the whole country. FWP. --- A while back you provided my campaign with your email address so we could contact you with important campaign information. Well, this is important. Now is the time to shift this campaign into a higher gear and I need your help. With Elizabeth Dole dropping out of the race, the choice for President is now more clear than ever. I'm the only conservative who can take on George W. Bush in every state and win the Republican presidential nomination. Just this week, I've received endorsements from many leading conservatives, including Darrell Kearney (formerly Elizabeth Dole's Iowa campaign chairman), Lyn Nofziger (formerly national co-chairman of Buchanan for President), and Bruce Herschensohn (a leading California conservative). My strong second place finish in the Iowa GOP straw poll, my third place and rising position in New Hampshire, and George W. Bush falling under 40% in early primary and caucus states show that the momentum is shifting in our favor. As more and more voters focus on the presidential race, they see that there is very little difference between Governor Bush's approach and the big government programs of Bill Bradley and Al Gore. They are all business-as-usual politicians. That's why Bush's lead against Bill Bradley and even Al Gore is fading away -- to single digits in the most recent national polls. We can't afford a third "Clinton" administration, which is why we must defeat Al Gore and Bill Bradley -- two dyed-in-the-wool big government liberals. But to do so, we need to nominate a true conservative with a bold, principled, meaningful agenda. Here's how you can help me win this race: 1) Forward this email to at least three friends who agree with us and who might also help, and 2) Make a financial contribution to our cause. Just go to http://www.forbes2000.com/htmlpages/contribute.html and you can make a secure on-line donation. Your financial support will help me go toe-to-toe with George W. Bush's $60 million plus warchest (financed with special interest and lobbyist money) and will send an important message to the media: this is more than a one man mission; it is a nationwide grassroots movement. There's too much at stake to sit on the sidelines. If we elect another pro-big-government President, we will never see: The end of the IRS as we know it; An honest, simple flat tax that's a real tax cut; Social Security protected for seniors and reformed for younger Americans so they will have the freedom to invest their payroll taxes in their own Personal Retirement Accounts; Freedom for all parents to choose schools that work and for teachers to create those schools; mothers given the freedom to choose doctors they trust for their own children, without being forced into government- run health care or heavy-handed HMOs; an end to partial birth abortions; an end to U.N. dominated foreign policy; or a firm commitment to anti-ballistic missile defense. Your support -- by forwarding this email and by making a financial contribution -- will help this message spread like wildfire. Voters need to know that as President, I will work to immediately return the budget surplus to hard working Americans through tax cuts. George Bush has no tax cut plan. We also need to point out that although George W. Bush talks about keeping federal government spending in check, he has increased the Texas state budget by 36% -- almost twice as fast as the Clinton-Gore administration has increased the federal budget. Make no mistake. I will hold the line on all federal government spending, impose tough new spending caps, and eliminate or privatize unnecessary, obsolete and redundant departments, agencies and commissions. If you agree that
[CTRL] EXECUTIVE ORDERS NOW IN EFFECT
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! EXECUTIVE ORDERS NOW IN EFFECT (Check them one by one against The Communist 'Manifesto), 1 . Executive Order 10995 - Takes over all communications media. 2. Executive order 10997 - Takes over all electric power, petroleum, gas, fuel and minerals. 3. Executive Order 10998 - Takes over all food resources and farms. 4. Executive order 10999. - Takes over all means of transportation, controls highways and seaports. 5. Executive order 11000 - Drafts all citizens into work forces under government supervision (slave labor). 6. Executive Order 11001 - Takes over all health, welfare and educational functions. 7. Executive Order 11002 - Empowers the Post Office General to register all citizens nationwide. 8. Executive Order 11003 - Takes over all airports and aircraft. 9. Executive Order 11004 - Takes over housing and finance authorities and housing designated as "unsafe"; establishes new locations for populations; builds new housing with public funds. 10. Executive Order 11005 - Takes over all railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities. 11. Executive order- 11051 - Designates responsibilities of the Office of Emergency Planning giving authorization to put the above orders into effect in times of increased international tension or economic crisis (any time they want to). Then comes the Big One: EXECUTIVE ORDER 11490 - all of the above orders are immediately activated. President John F. Kennedy, at Columbia University in 1963 said it perfectly "The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy America's freedom, and before I leave this office, I must inform the citizens of their plight." Ten days later, President Kennedy was eliminated. Copyright c 1999 No Tax Academy Last modified: January 13, 1999 **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] REQUEST LIST FOR MESSAGES YOU MAY HAVE MISSED
-Caveat Lector- I would to thank you for posting the messages that I missed and keep up the good work. Fred DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] A Message From Steve Forbes...and a reply.
-Caveat Lector- Forbes is right on target about the crisis our country is in. If we refuse to learn where he stands and get behind him, what are we all bitching about? Here is an honest candidate with the desire and power to change the things we hate, and somehow he's not even the front runner. Shame on us! Die Pat, die! From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] A Message From Steve Forbes...and a reply. Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:27:11 -0700 -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 3:58 PM Subject: A Message From Steve Forbes Steve Forbes asked me to forward the message below to you personally. [EMAIL PROTECTED] And here is my personal reply. I HAVE HAD MORE POLITICAL CRAP FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER THAN I DESERVE TO GET IN A THOUSAND LIFETIMES. And you, Steve are a Crapmeister par excellence. Where is that "first Internet campaign" you boasted about? If you wanted an Internet campaign you would have set up an email list/discussion and answered some honest questions. Here's one-You talked about restoring America to a "shining city on a hill". So let's put the useless metaphor aside. A city is a city. What would a MODEL CITY be like with you as President? Suppose one were built anew, like Jubail, Saudi Arabia or New Bombay (Navi Mumbai), India, or the proposed new cities of Anandapour, Punjab and Subia, Kuwait and Cyberjaya, Malaysia. What would it be like? If you can't tell us about one city in America which would solve the presenting problems I don't see why anyone should trust you with the whole country. FWP. --- A while back you provided my campaign with your email address so we could contact you with important campaign information. Well, this is important. Now is the time to shift this campaign into a higher gear and I need your help. With Elizabeth Dole dropping out of the race, the choice for President is now more clear than ever. I'm the only conservative who can take on George W. Bush in every state and win the Republican presidential nomination. Just this week, I've received endorsements from many leading conservatives, including Darrell Kearney (formerly Elizabeth Dole's Iowa campaign chairman), Lyn Nofziger (formerly national co-chairman of Buchanan for President), and Bruce Herschensohn (a leading California conservative). My strong second place finish in the Iowa GOP straw poll, my third place and rising position in New Hampshire, and George W. Bush falling under 40% in early primary and caucus states show that the momentum is shifting in our favor. As more and more voters focus on the presidential race, they see that there is very little difference between Governor Bush's approach and the big government programs of Bill Bradley and Al Gore. They are all business-as-usual politicians. That's why Bush's lead against Bill Bradley and even Al Gore is fading away -- to single digits in the most recent national polls. We can't afford a third "Clinton" administration, which is why we must defeat Al Gore and Bill Bradley -- two dyed-in-the-wool big government liberals. But to do so, we need to nominate a true conservative with a bold, principled, meaningful agenda. Here's how you can help me win this race: 1) Forward this email to at least three friends who agree with us and who might also help, and 2) Make a financial contribution to our cause. Just go to http://www.forbes2000.com/htmlpages/contribute.html and you can make a secure on-line donation. Your financial support will help me go toe-to-toe with George W. Bush's $60 million plus warchest (financed with special interest and lobbyist money) and will send an important message to the media: this is more than a one man mission; it is a nationwide grassroots movement. There's too much at stake to sit on the sidelines. If we elect another pro-big-government President, we will never see: The end of the IRS as we know it; An honest, simple flat tax that's a real tax cut; Social Security protected for seniors and reformed for younger Americans so they will have the freedom to invest their payroll taxes in their own Personal Retirement Accounts; Freedom for all parents to choose schools that work and for teachers to create those schools; mothers given the freedom to choose doctors they trust for their own children, without being forced into government- run health care or heavy-handed HMOs; an end to partial birth abortions; an end to U.N. dominated foreign policy; or a firm commitment to anti-ballistic missile defense. Your support -- by forwarding this email and by making a financial contribution -- will help this message spread like wildfire. Voters need to know that
[CTRL] Attn: Internet Exporer 5.0 Patch
-Caveat Lector- Microsoft released this patch on the 20th of this month. If you use IE 5, it is recommended that you d/l the patch. --IN INTERNET: IFRAME EXECCOMMAND AND DOWNLOAD BEHAVIOR SECURITY UPDATE File size: 1.1MB License: Freeware Minimum requirements: Windows 95/98/NT 4.0, Internet Explorer 5.0 Yes, kids, Microsoft has released another patch intended to plug security holes in Internet Explorer 5.0. This time the update repairs a security vulnerability involving the IFRAME ExecCommand. If not repaired, this bug could allow a Web site operator to access the files on your hard drive. For those who missed the last update, this patch also fixes the download behavior security bug. Keep your computer safe from prying eyes: http://1.digital.cnet.com/cgi-bin1/flo?x=dgYAmKBmYwAABouu DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] A Message From Steve Forbes...and a reply.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/28/99 6:51:35 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Forbes is right on target about the crisis our country is in. If we refuse to learn where he stands and get behind him, what are we all bitching about? Here is an honest candidate with the desire and power to change the things we hate, and somehow he's not even the front runner. Shame on us! Die Pat, die! Jee Pen, where ya' been anyway??? Bill DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Fwd) Release: Buchanan switch
-Caveat Lector- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- === NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY 2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100 Washington DC 20037 World Wide Web: http://www.lp.org/ === For release: October 26, 1999 === For additional information: George Getz, Press Secretary Phone: (202) 333-0008 Ext. 222 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Buchanan: Good news for 3rd parties, but Reform Party's death sentence? WASHINGTON, DC -- The announcement by Pat Buchanan that he will seek the Reform Party's presidential nomination is good news for third parties in general -- but will be disastrous news for the Reform Party, the Libertarian Party predicted today. "Libertarians welcome Mr. Buchanan because a rising tide of well-known candidates lifts all third-party boats," said Steve Dasbach, the party's national director. "But Buchanan's controversial candidacy will probably be the U-boat torpedo that sinks the Reform Party's ship. "With Buchanan in the race, Reform Party members face a stark choice: Whether to support their party's traditional fuzzy libertarianism and generic reform impulses, or take a hard right turn towards Mr. Buchanan's scary xenophobic, authoritarian nationalism," he said. "The fuse has been lit. We're now going to see a struggle for the Reform Party's soul -- and it's going to be an ugly battle that may shatter the fledgling party to pieces." On Monday, Buchanan formally announced that he was leaving the Republican Party to go the Reform Party route. The pugnacious TV commentator may now face off against Donald Trump -- the billionaire New York developer famous for his out-sized ego, gaudy buildings, and beautiful girlfriends -- for the Reform's presidential nomination. And that high-profile nomination battle will be good for the Libertarian Party because it will direct attention away from the two older parties, said Dasbach. "The celebrity death-match between Trump and Buchanan will be catnip for journalists -- and guarantees that the spotlight will shine more brightly on all third parties," he said. "America could be entering a new era of politics, where the traditional two-party chokehold may be broken once and for all. "In such an environment, the Libertarian Party will thrive, because we're the only third party that is nationally organized, has elected hundreds of members to public office, and has a proven track record of getting our candidates on all 50 state ballots." Interestingly, it probably won't matter to the success of the Libertarian Party's presidential candidate in 2000 whether Buchanan or Trump gets the Reform Party nomination, said Dasbach. "Both Buchanan and Trump are big-government politicians, albeit slightly unorthodox ones," he noted. "Buchanan wants to restrict free trade, declare a government war on abortion, close the borders, impose traditional cultural values -- and has said Adolf Hitler was a 'genius.' Trump wants to restrict free trade, close the borders, keep Social Security from being privatized -- and said he might declare war on North Korea. "Then, look at who the Republicans and Democrats will run in 2000: George W. Bush, a big-government 'compassionate conservative.' Al Gore, a big-government New Democrat-style liberal, who will offer an endless barrage of micro-initiatives. Or Bill Bradley, a big-government, old-style liberal who's running to the left of Warren Beatty. "The bottom line: Whoever the Libertarian Party nominates for president, he will be the only candidate genuinely in favor of a smaller, less expensive, less intrusive federal government. There's a demand for that kind of positive, principled position -- which won't be met by the two older parties, or by Pat Buchanan and his politics of protectionism and fear." -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBOBTbjtCSe1KnQG7RAQGtMAQArm6EKTw0Kotv8Um3tyMy D7N9Mz4hpfcs G83E7Wj+f4txeyFjHQPR5f1YS+PNkTPNaoUIZQWEgKWEm3lDeDt19x 14j1+I+Gle zTShZ7zTLw0yCVX81CrSX5JZyb8dq0rdMHR8oBYKgJICmEoe3Drv0yN4 RIYHuoif x+1tiAcjbtM= =HYX3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- The Libertarian Party http://www.lp.org/ 2600 Virginia Ave. NW, Suite 100 voice: 202-333-0008 Washington DC 20037 fax: 202-333-0072 For subscription changes, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" in the subject line -- or use the WWW form. --- End of forwarded message --- -- Kathleen "A lawyer's answer, so close to the truth it could hide in its shadow." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and
Re: [CTRL] Mind control... Delgado
-Caveat Lector- This is a web on Jose Delgados technology... A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~mdars/delga1s.htm"http://members.tripod. com/~mdars/delga1s.htm/A and this is a bibliography. Im asking that anyone send digitized versions of works cited for an on line Delgado resource need your help to locate the items in the bibliography and then digitize them, if you can photo copy the documents and send them to me Ill pay... A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~mdars/delga2b.htm"http://members.tripod.com/ ~mdars/delga2b.htm/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bob Woodward
-Caveat Lector- Very interesting. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cash and the 'Carry Tax'
From: "Landes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cash and the 'Carry Tax' by Declan McCullagh 3:00 a.m. 27.Oct.99.PDT WASHINGTON -- US currency should include tracking devices that let the government tax private possession of dollar bills, a Federal Reserve official says. The longer you hold currency without depositing it in a bank account, the less that cash will be worth, according to a proposal from Marvin Goodfriend, a senior vice president at the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond. In other words, greenbacks will get automatic expiration dates. "The magnetic strip could visibly record when a bill was last withdrawn from the banking system. A carry tax could be deducted from each bill upon deposit according to how long the bill was in circulation," Goodfriend wrote in a recent presentation to a Federal Reserve System conference in Woodstock, Vermont. The 34-page paper argues a carry tax will discourage "hoarding" currency, deter black market and criminal activities, and boost economic stability during deflationary periods when interest rates hover near zero. It says new technology finally makes such a scheme feasible. "Systems would have to be put in place at banks and automatic teller machines to read bills, assess the carry tax, and stamp the bills 'current,'" the report recommends. Goodfriend said in an interview that banks might place a kind of visible "date issued" stamp on each note they distributed. "The thing could actually stamp the date when the bill comes out of the ATM," he said. Congressional critics say they would oppose any such move. "The whole idea is preposterous. The notion that we're going to tax somebody because they decide to be frugal and hold a couple of dollars is economic planning at its worst," said Representative Ron Paul (R-Texas), a free-market proponent who serves on the House Banking committee. "This idea that you can correct some of the evil they've already created with another tax is just ridiculous," Paul said. Other economists say a carry tax is not a wise plan. "This is going beyond taxing banks for holding reserves. It's taxing the public for holding currency too long. That's even more wild an idea," says George Selgin, a University of Georgia economics professor who specializes in monetary policy. "There are sweeping implications of these suggestions beyond whatever role they might play in thwarting a deflationary crisis... I think it's a very dangerous solution to what may be a purely hypothetical problem," Selgin said. Goodfriend discusses an alternative: The Fed should at times prevent Americans from withdrawing cash from their bank accounts. "Suspending the payment of currency for deposits would avoid the cost of imposing a carry tax on currency." But he concludes that such a move would have "destabilizing" effects, and recommends that the Federal Reserve instead "put in place systems to raise the cost of storing money by imposing a carry tax." The idea has been discussed before. Economist John Keynes mentioned the possibility, but dismissed it because of the administrative hassles involved. Silvio Gesell, a Keynes contemporary and like-minded thinker, also suggested taxing money to allow lower interest rates. But Goodfriend says that technology has advanced since then. "In light of recent advances in payments technology and the less-than-satisfactory alternatives, imposing a carry tax on money seems an eminently practical and reasonable way [to proceed]," he writes. He said the Federal Reserve has technology that would make it "feasible," but refused to give details. One reason for a carry tax, he says, is the reduced influence of the US central bank when prices are not increasing and inflation is close to zero. During such a period, banks are less likely to make loans -- even if the Fed tries to spur an economic expansion through open market operations. But if the government taxes the currency holdings of individuals and banks through an occasional carry tax, they may be inclined to lend money even at a negative interest rate in order to avoid holding on to it. "This proposal is made well in advance of any problem we have in the US. It's not an emergency proposal at this point," he said. The report says Congress would have to pass legislation allowing such a tax. http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,32121,00.html --- ONElist Sponsor Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/Productopia2 "Click Here/a
Re: [CTRL] A Message From Steve Forbes...and a reply.
-Caveat Lector- Die Pat, die! I think in Pat's case that should be, "Der Pat, Der." Cheers, Lucio DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Clinton Conspiring to Create a Black Market in Cigarettes
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Clinton Conspiring to Create a Black Market in Cigarettes Date: Saturday, October 23, 1999 1:00 PM Now it's tobacco: Clinton would like to place more regressive consumption taxes on cigarettes, so that the result will be a black market in that product. This will then give the ATF terrorists an opportunity to kick down your door looking for untaxed cigarettes. THE HEGELIAN DIALECTIC: THESIS, ANTITHESIS, and SYNTHESIS THESIS: Create a problem. ANTITHESIS: Generate opposition to the problem (fear, panic, hysteria). SYNTHESIS: Offer the solution to the problem created in step one; which would invariably be a societal "change" or "shift" which would have been impossible to impose upon the people without the proper psychological conditioning achieved in stages one and two. The federal government is now a treasonous criminal organization waging war against the American people. Where is the military and law enforcement? Didn't they take an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution? URGENT NOTICE TO ALL AMERICANS! It is now imperative that you organize your neighborhoods into militias, inorder to prepare for the coming slaughter!!! Resist any effort to violate your Second Amendment and Tenth Amendment rights. Gun control leads to genocde. REPOST OF WILLIAM COOPER MESSAGE From: harvest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, April 11, 1999 12:48 PM We have just received the following with which we fully agree and support. We performed some minor editing so that it is legally, Lawfully, and morally correct.) Public Notice and Declaration This Public Notice and Declaration of Lawful Intent is hereby served upon the President, Vice President, President's Cabinet, Members of the Senate, Members of the House of Representatives, departments, agencies, officials, officers, military officers, employees of the de-facto government of the United States of America and to all officials elected or appointed of the several Union States. The President of the United States of America and his administration are engaged in a conspiracy to establish world government. Therefore the President and his administration are engaged in TREASON having caused a state of insurrection against the Constitution for the United States of America. The President of the United States of America has acted against the Constitution for the United States of America, the North Atlantic Treaty, and the United Nations Charter upon his own initiative committing an Act of War against Yugoslavia, a sovereign nation, without provocation of any kind whatsoever. The President has ordered or caused to be ordered American military personnel to be unconstitutionally placed under the command of foreign and/or International political and military officials, officers, and organizations and to engage in unconstitutional War. In the commission of these actions the President of the United States has committed TREASON, crimes against humanity, and war crimes against the People of Yugoslavia. The President has accepted illegal campaign contributions from an admitted enemy of the United States of America, Communist China, which contributions constitute bribery and TREASON in that he is giving aid and comfort to an enemy of the United States of America. Having been bribed the President has caused defense secrets concerning atomic weaponry, rocket and satellite technology to be delivered to Communist China. The President has proposed and supported concessions to build Shown 36%, press SPACE for more, 'q' to quit, or 'h' for help bases and shipping facilities in the United States, favored nation status, and membership in the World Trade Organization to be delivered to Communist China. The President has caused the FBI, BATF, and IRS as national political police to invade the sovereign jurisdiction of the Union States to arrest, and murder Citizens, and seize property without just compensation. Furthermore these rogue agencies were not lawfully or Constitutionally formed and are not lawful agencies of the United States of America. In the deployment of these rogue agencies against the Citizens of the several States of the Union the President of the United States of America has unconstitutionally and unlawfully used military personnel and equipment against his political enemies amongst the American People. Reference the murder of Vicki Weaver, the Branch Davidians, the Oklahoma City Bombing, and other crimes against humanity. The Commanding Officers of the Military Forces of the United States of America have abdicated their Oaths of Allegiance. Therefore they are participants in the conspiracy. Therefore the General Officers of the Military of the United States of America are engaged in TREASON. The Members of the Senate and the House of Representatives of
[CTRL] Immunity for John Huang (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Opening Statement by Congressman Dan Burton, Chairman, Committee on Government Reform "Immunity for John Huang" October 28, 1999 The first order of business today is to vote to confer immunity on John Huang. I believe we've reached an agreement on this issue. I thank Congressman Waxman for that, and I thank all of my colleagues. I think we're going to have a unanimous vote. This has been a long time in coming. We've wanted John Huang to testify since we started this investigation at the beginning of 1997. We've been trying for months to get the Justice Department to sign off on immunity. John Huang has been cooperating with them since the beginning of the year. He pled guilty in August. I thought we should have been able to get this done several months ago. But as they say, better late than never. John Huang was James Riady's right-hand man in the United States. He worked for James Riady at the Lippo Bank in Los Angeles. In 1994, the President appointed him Deputy Assistant Secretary of Commerce. This happened after a series of meetings involving James Riady and Webster Hubbell. Mr. Hubbell got $100,000 from Mr. Riady. A few weeks later, Mr. Huang got his job at the Commerce Department. At the end of 1995, he became the Vice Chairman for Finance at the Democratic National Committee. He was forced to resign from the DNC prior to the 1996 elections when the fundraising scandal surfaced. The DNC had to return more than $3 million that he raised. Most of that came from foreign sources. We have the FBI's interviews of John Huang. We've been reviewing them, I believe we've reached an agreement to make them public. Our staffs will work together with the FBI to redact personal information and I hope they'll be ready for release early next week. I want to take a couple of minutes to talk about two of the things weve learned. I think these issues just reemphasize the importance of having Mr. Huang testify. First, in August 1992, James Riady flew from Indonesia to Los Angeles to attend a fundraiser. He gave $100,000 for that fundraiser. He took a limousine ride with then-Governor Clinton. That much has been known for a long time. Now we're learning for the first time that, having just arrived from Jakarta, James Riady got in the limousine and promised to raise one million dollars for Bill Clinton's campaign. John Huang goes on to state that he and James Riady then arranged to have hundreds of thousands of dollars in contributions funneled through Lippo Group employees and subsidiaries. Most of the employees didn't even live in the United States, but they had green cards. Mr. Huang states that he got the bank account numbers from some of these employees and passed them on to Lippo Group headquarters in Jakarta to make sure that they got reimbursed. This raises a very serious question. The Justice Department has had this information for most of the year. John Huang started cooperating in January. They've had bank records and memos showing that Lippo Group subsidiaries were reimbursed for contributions from overseas. I know because I sent them the information. Why hasn't James Riady been indicted? It's certainly not for lack of evidence. You have clear testimony that James Riady was organizing conduit contributions. People were being reimbursed from overseas. You have documentary evidence. A lot of money was involved. I dont understand why he hasnt been indicted. Other people have been indicted and punished severely by Janet Reno's Justice Department for far less. Let me give you just one example. In 1996, a businessman named Simon Fireman funneled about $120,000 through his employees to the Dole for President campaign. He got caught. He was prosecuted, as he should have been. He received a 6 million dollar fine. James Riady arranged more than $700,000 in contributions to Bill Clinton's campaign in 1992. Most of them were illegal. The Justice Department hasnt touched him. Why not? It looks like the Attorney General has set two different standards -- a harsh one for some and a lenient one for others. This isn't the only example of unequal treatment we've seen. I want to mention one other matter raised by Mr. Huang. He was working at the Commerce Department in the fall of 1995. He told the FBI that he got a phone call from Harold Ickes at the White House. He states that Harold Ickes asked him to raise money for the campaign of one of our colleagues -- Jesse Jackson Jr. John Huang did so, which appears to be a violation of the Hatch Act. Now, Jesse Jackson Jr. is an honorable person. There's no reason to believe he knew any of this was going on. But this raises serious legal issues for John Huang and Harold Ickes. The Attorney General has refused to appoint an independent counsel for Harold Ickes. It's too late now, the law has expired. But she knew about this a long time ago. There were a lot of reasons to appoint an independent counsel for Mr. Ickes. Most of them were publicly
[CTRL] COMET LEE: AUGUR OF CHANGE?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ecologystore.com/econews14.htm COMET LEE AUGUR OF CHANGE? By EcologyNews Service reprinted with permission of the author By Geri DeStefano, PhD Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd EcoNews Service http://www.ecologynews.com Vancouver, BC VANCOUVER - Question for 1999: Are Comet Lee and the seer Nostradamus the years greatest memes, or are they augurs of transformational change? Or a bit of both? Artist David Brin tells us that Memes are raw ideas. Pure concepts which, like conquering genetic codes, seem capable of thriving in and via host organisms, this time human minds. What would such a "living idea" be like? Well, for one thing it would survive by making its host think about it. In contemplating a concept, you in effect keep it alive. For example, some time ago I read a notion -- the very one we're discussing now -- the notion of memes. You could say this idea was successful at "infecting" me, because I've continued thinking about it, giving it continued existence, or "life." But a virus or bacterium that just sits inside its host doesn't accomplish much. An effective pseudo-organism must do more. It must reproduce. How would a living idea proliferate? By getting its host not only to think about it, but to make and spread copies... by telling other people! And now, if you've been paying attention, you'll realize that's just what I've been doing the last few minutes for one particular meme... the meme of memes! By telling you about it, I am doing the memic equivalent of coughing on you. Infecting you with the transmissible, self- replicating notion of these infectious ideas. If it's a successful self- replicating notion, some of you will go out and tell others about it. And so on. Comets, the ancients said, augur change. If that is true as metaphor or as reality what more auspicious a beginning for a comet to appear than the very time that seers like Michel de Notredame (Nostradamus) and prophetic traditions like the Aztec calendar say may inaugurate a period of great cosmic change on our planet. The last total solar eclipse of the century took place on August 11, 1999, and two days later, on August 13, came the Aztec calendar Day of Destiny. Why the Day of Destiny? That was the date on which one module of time in the Aztec Calendar ended, and another began. According to researcher John Mini, the Day of Destiny indicated a major cataclysmic event that will transform values. Sources of stability break and fall apart. There's an overthrow of old political structure, and a rebirth of a new order. There's a possibility of a global financial meltdown and a massive redistribution of wealth that accompanies a new financial system. Mini, author of Day of Destiny, tells us: The Aztec shamans taught us how there's going to be a tremendous confluence of ecological, economic, social, political and psychological forces that are going to come together like a tidal wave on August 13, 1999. They say we can use this tidal wave to manifest our dreams, wishes and goals. It's a day where we can turn our dreams into reality. Now, this tidal wave of change was not (yet) literal and actual. But was it metaphor, a sign from ancient sciences for the forces of universal transformation acting in our lives? For on August 11, 1999 the day of the solar eclipse and Grand Cross and two days before the Day of Destiny, Comet Lee emerged from the other side of our Sun, on reported trajectory 77 millions miles from Earth. In its brief journey behind the sun, Comet Lee spawned both a vocal disagreement in comet research about the nature of comets, and a roller coaster ride among interpreters and believers in the Nostradamus comet of 1999. Comet Lee had lessons for all. The saga of Comet Lee [C/1999 H1] began with its first discovery on April 16, 1999 by Steven Lee, an amateur astronomer and night attendant at the Anglo-Australian Observatory in New South Wales, Australia, while at a Star Party with other aficionados. Lee, who sports a Rip Van Winkle-like beard and sandals, seemed both modestly pleased and irritated by his discovery of a comet, ensuring his astronomical immortality. Although Comet Lees discovery scenario was chillingly similar to one of the Hollywood Deep Impact movie plot-lines, Lee himself apparently had no idea that his Comet Lee might move into public notoriety as the possible King of Terror prophesized in the 1500s by Nostradamus. King of Terror refers to a now-famous Nostradamus quatrain. Nostradamus [Michel de Notredame,
Re: [CTRL] 'Our own image'
-Caveat Lector- Of course, I should have realised. Thanks so much for your insight Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift - Original Message - From: Stopforth, Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 4:54 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] 'Our own image' -Caveat Lector- The answer is obvious. Hi guys, I thought I would throw this one to the panel before replying Peter Hi Peter, Hope you are well. I have a question for you. In the Bible it says that God made man is 'Our own image'. If God was the Annunaki, and the Annunaki were reptoids, then how come they made man humanoid? Tis a puzzlement? Any answers? Maybe you can post the question...will be interesting hearing the answer. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] US authorizes Iraq contra training
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart = NY Times October 28, 1999 U.S. to Aid Iraqi Opposition to Develop a Military Cadre By STEVEN LEE MYERS WASHINGTON -- The Administration has authorized the first direct military training for opponents of President Saddam Hussein of Iraq, senior officials said Wednesday. Starting next week, four Iraqi rebel leaders, including two former officers in Iraq's armed forces, will attend a 10-day training course at the Air Force's special-operations headquarters in Florida, where American officials will school them on how to organize a military in an emerging state. Other courses are being prepared. The Administration has also approved its first contribution of surplus Pentagon equipment intended to help foster the overthrow of President Hussein, offering the main Iraqi opposition groups $2 million worth of office supplies. While the initial assistance is modest -- and, the officials emphasized, "nonlethal" -- it reflects the sharp shift in policy toward overt support of what amounts to an insurgency against Hussein's Government. In that sense, it recalls American support in the 1980's for the contra rebels in Nicaragua and for the mujahedeen guerrillas who resisted the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The training and equipment, which includes computers, fax machines and file cabinets, represent the first portion of $97 million in aid authorized by Congress last year to bolster the fractious groups intent on deposing President Hussein. "The notion here is to help people associated with the opposition to think about a plan for the country after Saddam Hussein," a military official who has worked closely with the Iraqi opposition said Wednesday. Ever since four days of American and British air strikes against Iraq last December, the Administration has openly stepped up contacts with Iraqi opposition leaders. So far, those efforts appear to have had little impact on dissent inside Iraq, and officials at the Pentagon, in particular, remain deeply skeptical of the viability of Hussein's opponents. The Administration, however, has been under increasing pressure from Republicans and even some Democrats in Congress to do more to support the opposition with equipment and possibly arms. Representative Benjamin A. Gilman of New York, the Republican chairman of the House International Relations Committee, today accused the Administration of having "a lethargic approach" and called for more significant assistance. "I can't imagine that Saddam Hussein would be worried about being overthrown by Iraqi exiles trained in civil affairs brandishing fax machines," Gilman said. Iraqi opposition leaders, however, strongly welcomed the support. Dr. Salah A. Shaikhly, a spokesman for the Iraqi National Congress, a coalition of exiles, said the equipment and training would be "vital to our work in Iraq." " 'Nonlethal' doesn't mean not useful inside Iraq," he said in an interview today in Washington. Administration and military officials said they hoped this first installment would strengthen the credibility of the opposition. The Administration made its decision on the eve of a large gathering of opposition groups in New York City this weekend. They are looking to the gathering as a chance to forge a unified front against President Hussein, something that has been sorely lacking because of infighting among his many opponents. "The United States Government wants to hear from a unified Iraqi popular leadership just how it can proceed to support the people of Iraq in promoting the change of regime, as it is the right of you, the Iraqi people, to do," the Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, Thomas R. Pickering, wrote to the leaders of seven opposition groups on Monday. The aid comes during a troubling period in the Administration's handling of Iraq. There have been no inspections of Iraq's reported nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs since the Government expelled United Nations inspectors 15 months ago, leading to the punitive attacks in December. And while the Administration says Hussein remains isolated, diplomatic efforts to set up a new inspection system, as called for under the terms of the cease-fire that ended the gulf war in 1991, have foundered. Senior Pentagon officials also fear that Iraq has quietly rebuilt much of what American and British warplanes destroyed in December, including missile factories. And while American and British jets patrolling no-flight zones over Iraq regularly attack Iraqi air-defense sites, including a strike today against missile sites in northern Iraq, those attacks have not put an end to President Hussein's defiance nor eroded his grip on power. In the absence of significant diplomatic progress, the main focus of Administration policy on Iraq has become fomenting opposition inside and outside the country. The first military
[CTRL] Anthrax vaccinations, Military resistors, Mycoplasma Fermentans
-Caveat Lector- Sounds a bit like GWS? Wonder if they're introducing Mycoplasma Fermentans via the shots? These folks are researchers who may be interested in hearing from you: (you may also find some of their info useful) http://www.immed.org/prod/text_only.html Drs. Garth Nancy Nicolson INSTITUTE OF MOLECULAR MEDICINE 1761 Kaiser Ave. Irvine, CA 92614 Telephone: 714/476-0204 (MYCOPLASMA FERMENTANS INCOGNITUS Tests free to Military and their families) (that would seem to include YOU, KT) The odor is very intriguing from a homoeopathic viewpoint, as is the rotten taste, the sudden onset I'm quite sure that this could be successfully treated homoeopathically. You may want to consider seeing an experienced "classical" homeopath especially if you have any further symptoms... or if you know of anyone else "coming down" with this. Knowing just a slight bit of your past health challenges, then adding any repercussion of this on top... Even though you've gotten over the bad symptoms, my personal advice to you, as someone I care about- is "get thee to a homeopath" when and if possible. I wish I knew someone in San Antonio, Texas, to refer you to. I'm sending this to the homeopathy online list; your observations may certainly be of value to others... if there's a homeopath in/near San Antonio who's interested, please reply to me AND to Katie. Thanks, and God bless... (please forward to your contact lists, where appropriate) Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/ncf http://www.ioa.com/~davehart http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/issues coupla links on GWS http://wealth4freedom.com/GWI.html http://www.oz.net/~vvawai/sw/sw35/GWS-contagious.html http://www.gulfwarvets.com/winds.htm -Original Message- From: Katie Hernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 6:49 PM To: Dave Subject: Re: Anthrax vaccinations, Military resistors Hi, Dave, Pass this on if you think it will help anyone. A note about personal experience with the anthrax vaccine...or something... My son went into the Air Force a couple of months ago, and of course he had to take that damn anthrax vaccine. I was worried sick about it, but of course they don't give them a choice about it -- if you want to be in, you gotta take the shot. And my son wanted to be in. He told me that within three hours of getting the shot, he started getting a fever. He quickly developed a BAD but nonproductive cough. This remained with him through the rest of basic training. The last three days he was allowed liberty, so I picked him up and we went off base on the day he had off-base liberty and the other two days we went different places on-base. The first day, on base, I noticed that his cough seemed to lessen after he had been away from his dormitory for a while, and wondered if the cough was from some mold or something growing in the ventilation system. In several of the buildings, I noticed a characteristic strange smell (sort of moldy), and the stronger the smell, the worse his cough became. The second day he had off-base liberty, and I noticed that his cough went away almost entirely, and I discussed the possibility that he was reacting to something in the air with him, and he agreed that might be it. The third day he had to stay on base, and again his cough was better and worse depending on the smell of wherever we were. We both also noticed that about half of the recruits were coughing the same way my son was, but few of the other base personnel were -- if it was a "bug" or something in the air ducts, why the disproportionality?By this time I started to feel feverish and to cough, too. I took Echinacea, and tried to get him to take some, but he was worried it might show up on a drug test. He went away to technical school after that, and a week later he called and said his cough was completely gone. I, however, was slowly getting sicker. I was starting to smell funny (like what I had smelled on base), I was coughing and had a low-grade fever. After about three weeks of dragging with this stuff (despite the Echinacea, which I cannot take constantly because it worsens my autoimmune problem), I developed a knot in my throat right next to my thyroid that appeared literally overnight and was about the size of a ping-pong ball. Three thoughts came to mind pretty quickly -- either I had the fastest goiter on earth, an incredibly fast growing cancer or I had a lymph node in overdrive. I ruled out the first quickly -- the lump was moveable, not attached to the thyroid. The second I was skeptical about -- I've never heard of any cancer that could develop that fast, and there was no sensation of pain or pressure associated with the lump, which was also very smooth and symmetrically shaped-- cancers are rarely smooth or symmetrical. At that point I was pretty sure it was a lymph node swelling, so I decided to wait a couple of weeks to see what it did. Two days after I got the swelling, I
[CTRL] FW: protest the drug war in d.c.
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:23 PM Subject: protest the drug war in d.c. Dear NDSN Members: For your information, a coalition of drug reform organizations is sponsoring a protest of the Western Hemisphere Drug Czars Conference in Washington, D.C., on November 4th. Following is their e-mail about the protest: PROTEST! Help us stop the U.S. from exporting its failed drug war to Latin America! On November 3-5, "Drug Czar" General Barry McCaffrey will host the Western Hemisphere Drug Czars Conference to further this agenda. McCaffrey is currently lobbying Congress to send billions of dollars to Colombia for anti-drug aid to be used by the Colombian military, which has a notorious record for human rights abuses. As part of a larger effort to respond to this conference, on November 4th hundreds of concerned citizens will protest at a park adjacent to the Omni-Shoreham Hotel, where the drug czars conference is taking place. Come out and "just say no" to drug war violence. DETAILS When: November 4, 1999, 5:30 - 7:00 pm Where: Corner of Calvert Street Connecticut Ave., NW, Washington, DC -- Adjacent to the Omni-Shoreham Hotel Directions: Half-block south of the Woodley Park Metro, Red Line The Protest Includes: -- Speakers -- Candlelight Vigil -- Street Theatre -- Press Information Booths -- Hot Coffee and Snacks Themes: -- Stop the Drug War -- Stop Drug War Violence -- Paren la Guerra Contra las Drogas -- No Vietnam in Colombia -- Drug War: A Bad Export -- Don't Export Drug Violence -- McCzar: Billions of Lies Served -- Drug Education, Not Incarceration -- Czars Sellout Human Rights -- Drug War Harms Environment Signs will be available to protestors who arrive early. Please feel free to make your own signs. Special Requests: Dress conservatively and warmly Remember this protest is about opposing the War on Drugs and its exportation to Latin America Please do not bring other issues into protest What You Can Do: -- ATTEND THE PROTEST -- Please post this message or similar announcement to your organization's e-mail list or membership list. -- Forward this message to others who may be interested -- Promote the protest on your website -- Contact us and we will mail flyers to you. -- Make PERSONAL PHONE CALLS to encourage others to attend -- Contact us with suggestions Contact: Chad Thevenot - (202) 312-2015 David Guard - (202) 682-4776 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stopthedrugwar.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Nukes Shut Down, say ex-Air Force Officers, by UFO's
-Caveat Lector- Fwd: (Need a little help with Global Nuclear Disarmament? :-) go to** UFO Research Should Focus On Nuclear Weapons Incidents Former custodian at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Great Falls, Robert Hastings: "Over the period of my research, dozens of ex-Air Force officers have told me that UFOs have the ability to shut down nuclear launches - their presence over silos creates missile system failures," he said. "It is clear that the focal point for UFO investigations is with regard to nuclear weapons," he said. --- Source: U_WIRE UFO guru warns U. Montana of alien life Updated 12:00 PM ET October 19, 1999 By Khris Carlson Montana Kaimin U. Montana (U-WIRE) MISSOULA, Mont. -- The U.S. government possesses a massive amount of information confirming that UFOs do exist and the time is now for people to begin educating themselves, a UFO researcher and former janitor said Monday night. Speaking to a crowd of two hundred in Urey Lecture Hall at the University of Montana, UFO guru Robert Hastings, a former custodian at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Great Falls, presented a lecture and slide show highlighting recently unclassified documents regarding UFO sightings and the government's attempts to hide the truth from the lay-people of America. Citing records from various government agencies, Hastings described sensitive documents confirming UFO sightings over Montana in 1975 and told of his own experience here in 1967 when a similar UFO sighting occurred. According to the documents presented by Hastings, the Defense Department reported a number of UFO sightings at highly sensitive nuclear missile silos and atomic bomb storage units near Malmstrom. "Over the period of my research, dozens of ex-Air Force officers have told me that UFOs have the ability to shut down nuclear launches - their presence over silos creates missile system failures," he said. In other words, if Osama bin-Laden strikes a deal with aliens, we could be in for it. Hastings, who makes $1,850 per lecture, says that it is no coincidence that reported UFO sightings have risen with the increased development of nuclear weapons and energy sites since the mid-20th century. "It is clear that the focal point for UFO investigations is with regard to nuclear weapons," he said. Hastings spent 30 minutes of his two-hour lecture with a slide presentation documenting the history of alien spacecraft sightings in America. "The fact that it has occurred is highly documented," he said. Hastings has gathered hundreds of pages of documents released under the Freedom of Information Act, enabling him to travel across the country to spread the news. "It is a question of time before all the answers come out," he said. "Educate yourselves with information on UFO's." (C) 1999 Montana Kaimin via U-WIRE [above post forwarded from:] http://www.egroups.com/group/endsecrecy From: Remy C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: endsecrecy list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 25, 1999 8:03 AM [originally posted as] Subject: Hastings: UFO Research **If you don't want to count on the galactic nuclear disarmament campaign, instead support the Global Peace Walk 2000, SF to DC to NYC for UN55th. http://www.globalpeacenow.org David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Global Emergency Alert Response http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CIA Psy-Ops on the Internet
-Caveat Lector- CIA Psy-Ops on the Internet CIA Opposed Freedom, and Freedom of Discussion by Michael Kelly mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A description of the evolution of alt.politics.org.cia news:alt.politics.org.cia and the changing tactics used by the US government to suppress discussion of the real issues. About a year ago, almost all the posters on this group were "retired" spooks. What they would do is sit like spiders in their webs waiting for innocents to come along and ask a question, such as "what are some good books to read" on such and such an intelligence-related topic. Of course, the newbie was then steered to some CIA-approved or CIA-written propaganda. A favorite being The Night Watch, by David Atlee Phillips, who was propaganda meister for the Western Hemisphere Division of CIA. If the poster criticized CIA, that poster was flamed. If the flaming didn't have any effect, then all the spooks would killfile the poster in lockstep. This strategy only works well when the "retired" spooks make up a vast majority of the posters here. Now that more "real people" have gotten involved in this group, it doesn't work so well because a critic is likely to be able to interact with others who want to discuss the issues. The last thing The Company wants is a genuine discussion of the issues here. What they want is a propaganda outlet. That's why anyone who raises the real issues of CIA and Clandestine Services(as the "old boys" like to call the covert ops department) will be set upon by provocateurs. See, if the "retired" spooks flame in too nasty a fashion and too constantly, it makes them look bad. The technique used is to bring people in from outside with no other purpose than to start flame wars with, and otherwise harass the critic. An analogy would be the hockey player who can't skate but is on the team to take out the talented players on the opposing team by starting brawls. A trademark of these types is that they never contribute anything of substance. Their refrain is "so and so is a... blah blah." By this technique the attempt is made to portray the critic as someone who argues with everyone. By attacking from many sides they attempt to portray the target as the common denominator in all the flame wars. Of course the hope is that the provocations will substitute the flame wars themselves as the issue, instead of the discussion of illegal and immoral practices of The Company. It's just a diversionary tactic. Keep focused on what The Company avoids discussing. Those are the real topics of importance here. All that's needed for them to have total control of your lives is for you to do nothing. They never stop seeking more power. Henry Kissinger called power "the ultimate aphrodisiac" and he should know since he stopped at nothing to increase his share of it. When Congress asked him if it was really a nice thing to encourage the Kurds to rise up, then abandon them when it was convenient, his response was roughly "one should not confuse covert operations with missionary work." What a guy! Yeah, give him another peace prize! Provocation is an old technique The Company has used for decades. They have experience subverting labor unions, student organizations, and governments, remember? So it's old hat for them to divide and conquer. The purpose is to divert you all from discussing the substantive issues. As soon as the standard Company "dirty tricks" are brought up, then all kinds of nitwits come out of the woodwork to start flame wars and commence e-mail and other harassments of the critic in order to obfuscate the issues. The following are issues The Company would rather not confirm or deny: CIA training of assassins and Latin American death squads. Read anything you can on the School of the Americas (known fondly as The School of Assassins.) You will find alumni such as the illustrious Manuel Noriega. CIA rigging of elections, especially now in conjunction with the "National Endowment for Democracy" or NED. The "standard practices" of CIA, including propaganda via "friendly" reporters in the American press, and the publishing of books via CIA proprietary companies that pass themselves off as private commercial enterprises. (Beware especially of former KGB officials who author these pieces of trash as "vigorish" for being allowed to live in the US.) The subversion of labor, educational, cultural, student, political, and military organizations at home and abroad. The illegal opening and interception of U.S. citizen's mail and electronic correspondence. In case you're tempted to tell me they are prohibited from doing this domestically, they get around these proscriptions by multi-lateral agreements with the intelligence agencies of other countries. It amounts to "we'll spy on your people and give you the take if you return the favor." So, Britain's GCHQ may intercept your phone call instead of NSA, and everything will be "legal," but your privacy is still violated nonetheless. CIA dealing in drugs,
[CTRL] EruoEunity
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From Slate.Com
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international papers
More Merde
By Alexander Chancellor
The Mad Cow War between Britain and France is still the most
interesting subject in the international press. It has brought out
a Francophobia in the British newspapers that has to be read to be
believed. The Times of London, once a byword for dignity, has a
regular feature called "Centre of Attention" about the hot topic of
the day. Wednesday's column, devoted to French food, plumbed new
depths of vulgarity. Beside a photograph of a French cow, the paper
printed the words: "Pity la pauvre vache. Less succulent than her
British sister, she's been good only for cheese. Now we find she
has been fed the bodily by-products of Europe's least
soap-conscious nation. Leaving her as tasty as a draught from a
mud-wrestler's jockstrap."
Despite French denials that their cows are fed on human
excrement--"No cow in the world would eat sewage," a French
agriculture official protested Tuesday to the Independent of
London--this is the aspect of the dispute that has captured the
imagination of the British press. The symbol of the Daily Mail's
campaign for a British consumers' boycott of French food is a
drawing of a cow with a beret on its head and a roll of toilet
paper hanging on a chain from its neck. "England expects every
shopper to do their duty," the paper proclaimed Wednesday on its
front page--evoking Adm. Horatio Nelson's signal to the British
fleet at the Battle of Trafalgar, "England expects that every man
will do his duty"--but also reflecting the decline in grammatical
standards in England over the past 200 years. (Another Nelson
exhortation to his sailors--"You must hate a Frenchman as you hate
the devil"--was not quoted anywhere, but was being widely followed
in the spirit.)
The Daily Mail's front-page headline, above a picture of French
farmers halting British trucks with burning barricades at the
Channel port of Calais, was "Merde! What a flaming cheek," and
inside in an editorial it said, "A million scientists proclaiming
that beef from excrement-fed cattle is safe will only reinforce the
commonsense view that animals fed in such a disgusting way cannot
possibly be healthy." So much for scientists. The Mail also quoted
a French farmers' leader as saying, "England is an island--it is
easier to blockade than the Continent." He was presumably unaware
of a famous prewar headline in the Times: "Fog in Channel:
Continent isolated."
The Times headed its anti-French editorial Wednesday with the kind
of dreary play on words that Fleet Street currently finds
irresistible. "A reasonable beef," it said, "The French should eat
their words." The conservative Daily Telegraph said in an
editorial: "If French farmers really think they can force British
consumers to buy their produce by blockading Calais, they had
better prepare for a long and unprofitable winter on the quayside.
... [T]rying to annoy your target market lacks the flair and
subtlety for which the French traditionally pride themselves." It
also noted that the French national rugby team, currently in
England for that sport's World Cup, had ordered a meal of roast
beef from room service at their hotel in Windsor with "absolutely
no stipulations as to where it came from." The paper wished the
French team "all the best" in its semifinal on Sunday.
The mass-circulation Sun, now reportedly dumping its famous Page-3
bare-breasted pinups at the request of Rupert Murdoch's new Chinese
wife, used the small French farmers' protest at Calais as the
excuse for an attack on Prime Minister Tony Blair for his
pro-Europeanism. "Is THIS what it means to be at the heart of
Europe, Mr Blair?" it asked, beside a photograph of the burning
barricade. "Come on, Mr Blair," it said in an editorial. "Start
kicking backsides in Paris and Brussels."
The French press, by contrast, was rather restrained. Le Monde
Wednesday even seemed to support the idea of a unilateral British
ban on French food imports. It said Blair had the scientific
justification for such a gesture and that if he had decided to make
it (which he didn't), it "would without doubt have had the merit of
calming the enormous storm of Francophobia that is consuming the
British Isles at the moment." Le Monde separately reported that,
according to European officials, the United States is expected to
lift its ban on imports of French Roquefort cheese, pate de foie
gras, and mustards at the World Trade Organization conference in
Seattle at the end of next month.
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[CTRL] World Wide Web
-Caveat Lector- Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:12:50 -0400 From: "Mark A. Smith" Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) To: Mark Subject: US Govt perverts now watching law abiding citizens on World Wide Web http://home.earthlink.net/~leslemke/kgb1.htm Hi Folks, I'll try to get right to the point here. Ever since the "Justice" Department decided that the American People were the ENEMY OF THE STATE and decided to track Internet activity and email communications of private, law abiding citizens under the BOGUS excuse that anyone could at anytime be conducting criminal or terrorist activity on the Internet I have been curious as to how this tracking was taking place. The first method that I found to look at the connections I was making via the Interent was with a little utility that comes with Microsoft Windows 98. The utility is called TRACERT. A friend of mine told me about that utility. If you want to see how many connections you have to go through in order to get to YOUR ISP, do this: Shell out to the Dos command line and type the following: TRACERT (YOUR ISP ADDRESS) As an example, if earthlink.net was your ISP you would type the following: TRACERT EARTHLINK.NET The report you will get back will look something like this below: -- Tracing route to www.earthlink.net [207.217.78.100] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 127 ms 118 ms 111 ms tnt1.coos-bay.or.da.uu.net [206.115.154.135] 2 120 ms 116 ms 120 ms 207.76.37.77 3 125 ms 116 ms 120 ms Fddi0-0.GW1.POR2.ALTER.NET [137.39.44.67] 4 129 ms 131 ms 116 ms 121.ATM3-0.XR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.200.186] 5 125 ms 117 ms 119 ms 195.ATM2-0.TR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.200.98] 6 164 ms 168 ms 157 ms 110.ATM7-0.TR1.LAX2.ALTER.NET [146.188.137.149] 7 158 ms 157 ms 158 ms 199.ATM7-0.XR1.LAX4.ALTER.NET [146.188.248.245] 8 169 ms ** 193.ATM7-0.GW4.LAX4.ALTER.NET [152.63.113.97] 9 153 ms 157 ms 160 ms earthlink-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.231.222] 10 162 ms 169 ms 170 ms f4-1-0-br02-pas.neteng.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.1.2] 11 f0-0-0-ds01-pas.neteng.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.50.142] reports: Destination net unreachable. Trace complete. -- While that report showed me that I had to actually go through various systems to get to my Earthlink ISP (on line 9) that information really didn't tell me WHERE those various other systems were located *OR* who was operating them. At the time that I was using the TRACERT utility I was quite curious about that 207.76.37.77 address which is shown on line #2. Just the other day that same friend who had told me about TRACERT called me up and told me about another rather interesting program called VISUAL ROUTE. What this program did, he said, was that it actually showed you, all the stops or "hops" along the Internet that your telephone connection makes as you log onto the Internet and connect to your ISP. It then can show you how many stops or "hops" your computer connection has made on the Internet as you go about your way browsing the World Wide Web with a web browser. What this program did, which was rather interesting, It provide some additional information on WHERE those ISP connections were PHYSICALLY located. The first time I used this program was after I had dialed into the Internet with my web browser. What I did was to log onto the Internet and connect up with Earthlink using my web browser. Then I stopped and loaded up Visual Route and typed in the "earthlink.net" address in the upper left hand corner where it asks for an ISP address. I then clicked the green arrow. The Visual Route program then showed me that IN ORDER TO GET TO MY ISP, Earthlink, I had to **FIRST** go through a whole number of systems INCLUDING a system located in Fairfax, Virginia. You know what's in Virginia, don't you? That's where Langley Air Force Base is located. That where the Navy keeps major naval intelligence related facilities. Fairfax, Virginia is also where the FBI keeps one of their main national forensic offices.including information on cyber terrorism! In addition, the CIA also maintains operations out of some offices in Virginia. Interesting, no? So, just *WHY* do you suppose they are routing ISP connections through Fairfax, Virginia, eh? Well, this is only MY own personal opinion, but what it looks like is that it is *IN* FAIRFAX VIRGINIA that the FBI has set up the Internet monitoring computer system for the purpose of watching U.S. Citizens as they conduct their PRIVATE business affairs on the Internet. Well, back to the Visual Route program... Are you curious to see if *YOU* are being FIRST routed to Fairfax, Virginia BEFORE being allowed to go anywhere else on the Internet? ( As you will learn later in this letter, not "ALL" U.S.
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-Caveat Lector- www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : Russia the CIS US expert outlines social and environmental disaster in Russia By Patrick Richter 29 October 1999 Back to screen version An American expert on Russian social and environmental trends, Murray Feshbach, appeared before the press on October 22 with an alarming statement on the situation in Russia. Feshbach, a professor at Washington's Georgetown University, is the author of Environmental and Health Atlas of Russia (1995) and Ecological Disaster:Cleaning up the Hidden Legacy of the Soviet Regime (1995). At the Washington press conference, Feshbach warned that Russia's population could shrink by a third by the year 2050, i.e., from the current level of 146 million to between 80 million and 100 million. According to Russian figures, by the year 2016 the population is expected to declined by 9 million to 17 million. Such a fall would have considerable economic and social consequences and could undermine Russian stability, already shaken by recent events. One geographically huge region of Russia, Siberia, presently has a total population of 24 million. The area, rich in raw materials, is coveted by a number of imperialist powers, west and east. Bordering Siberia to the east is China with its explosively growing population, at present 1.25 billion. According to Feshbach, the major reason for the catastrophic decline in population is the sharp rise in diseases such as tuberculosis and AIDS as well as infertility and a variety of other sexual disorders. Although Russian statistics are incomplete or inaccurate, Feshbach reported that there were about 450,000 new cases of syphilis in the last year, compared to some 8,000 new cases recorded in the United States, with its population of 260 million. The spread of AIDS has assumed proportions approaching the situation in Africa. The Russian Central Bureau of Epidemiology predicted that by 2002 there would be 2 million cases of HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, in the country. In Moscow new cases increased by a factor of 12 in the first half of this year, as compared to the same period of 1998. Feshbach said, "The numbers are increasing super-geometrically." They would, he said, start to seriously impact mortality rates in about a decade. With regard to tuberculosis the figures are equally alarming. Official Russian figures showed 108,000 new cases of tuberculosis last year, with the World Health Organisation estimating 150,000. In comparison, there were about 18,000 new cases in the United States in 1997, of which only a few ended in death. In 1997 there were 24,777 recorded deaths from TB in Russia. In an August 1999 report the US Centers for Disease Control wrote: "The incidence of tuberculosis in the Russian Federation has increased steadily from 34 per 100,000 population in 1991 to 78 per 100,000 in 1998." Feshbach referred to the well-publicized fears of an increase in multi-drug-resistant TB, saying there were 20,000 cases in Russian prisons and 10,000 outside. Multi-drug- resistant TB arises when treatment is prematurely interrupted and the patient declares he or she has no more symptoms. The weakened TB strain then develops resistance against the residues of medecine in the body until the disease is ready to break out again in an even more virulent form. World Health Organization officials have warned of a spillover into Western Europe if the TB epidemic in Russia is not checked. In regard to his particular sphere of his interest, environmental pollution, Feshbach said that other factors affecting the Russian population include the release of chemicals and heavy metals into the water supply and the air, resulting in genetic and other diseases that are particularly dangerous for children and pregnant women. A high consumption of alcohol and tobacco, as well as a low-vitamin diet, has also contributed to the rise in mortality rates. Feshbach pointed to continuing bad harvests, poverty, and chaos in the food distribution system as factors in the poor diet of many Russians. He also noted that in the 1990s Russia's suicide rate surpassed that of Hungary and Japan, to become the highest in the world. Copyright 1998-99 World Socialist Web Site All rights reserved AER ~~~ Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the
[CTRL] Global Nuclear Disarmament Economic Conversion Act
-Caveat Lector-
Please contact your local Congressperson to support this important bill to
protect the only planet we have. This is one of the important survival
issue messages being carried by Global Peace Walk2000 from SF to DC to NYC
for UN55th.
http://www.globalpeacenow.org
The full transcript of the press conference, with speeches by Congressional
Co-Sponsors Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) and Lynn Woolsey (D-CA), and
nuclear
policy experts Dr. Marcus Raskin (Institute for Policy Studies), Mary Olson
(Nuclear Information and Resource Service), Bob Tiller (Physicians for
Social
Responsibility), and John Steinbach (Veterans for Peace), as well as the
text
of the bill HR-2545, can be found at
http://prop1.org/prop1/990730p1.speeches.htm
Summary of HR-2545 is at end of this post.
From: Peace through Reason [EMAIL PROTECTED] [discussion of HR-2545]
To: Alyn Ware [EMAIL PROTECTED];
David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: abolition caucus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Proposal to Abolition 2000. Holmes Norton Bill
Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 11:34 PM
At 11:51 AM 10/23/99 -0400, Alyn Ware wrote:
Dear David,
Thank you for your communication regarding the bill proposed by Eleanor
Holmes Norton. I believe that Holmes Norton should be supported for this
initiative. I have distributed the bill in a variety of fora, including to
representatives arguing against nuclear weapons in the International Court
of Justice, with the result that it was referred to in the 1995-6 case.
This is a fact. And your efforts have been greatly appreciated, Alyn.
Fortunately, you are an Australian citizen. Unfortunately, the support
needed for Norton's bill must come from US citizens. What is necessary is
for millions of US citizens to insist that their congressional
representatives support Norton's bill.
However, there are a number of problems with the bill which make it
difficult to swing in behind with wholehearted support.
1. Requirement to "Refrain from all military operations".
While I am personally a Pacifist and would support this statement, it
precludes those congresspeople who would support nuclear disarmament but
not
yet support a pacifist US policy. It also could be inferred to prevent US
participation in UN peacekeeping operations.
It must be tough to be a Pacifist politician; as a "politician," I imagine,
the "Pacifist" would eventually be forced to speak out of both sides of his
mouth. (Didn't something like that recently happen to some Greens in
Germany?)
Personally, as a Pacifist, my problem is those congresspeople who might
"support" nuclear disarmament yet would remain militarists. For one thing,
congresspeople who entertain that dualistic mind set seem to be seriously
out of touch with reality. Consider the value of nuclear weaponry: simply,
they are the most advanced weapons. It is axiomatic that the best defense
is a good offense. It is also axiomatic that the best offense is the most
murderous offense. Notwithstanding the fact that the US has demonstrated
its' ability to bomb nations into the stone age with conventional weaponry,
to my way of thinking, any congressperson who claims to support the
elimination of nuclear weapons, but wants to continue with a strong
military would be either a bad general, a clever liar, or living in
Fantasyland. What's the point of having a military that's not capable of
annihilating its' enemies? I know that if I believed in peace through
strength, or that might makes right, I wouldn't beat my best weapon into
any ploughshare.
As a Pacifist, rather than play patty cake with a bunch of wingnut
congresspeople, I'd prefer to encourage them to change their perspective of
reality. And isn't that what a grassroots movement is supposed to do;
convince government to change its' perspective of reality?
2. "This Act shall take effect when the President certifies to the Congress
that all foreign countries possessing nuclear weapons have established
legal
requirements comparable to those set forth in section 2 and those
requirements have taken effect."
The requirement that all foreign countries possessing nuclear weapons must
"undertake vigorous good faith efforts to eliminate war, armed conflict,
and
all military operations (from Section 2)" is too stringent and allows the
US
an easy excuse not to implement the bill, ie if Russia is in armed conflict
with Chechnya, the US can refuse to implement the ill.
First, point 2 seems to be point 1 in disguise ("support nuclear
disarmament but not yet support a pacifist US policy").
Second, if this section is too stringent to be taken seriously, then what
can be said of the initial promise of the UN Charter: "to save succeeding
generations from the scourge of war?" (Reminds me of the League of Women
Voters' spokeswoman who said that, although her organization and our
organization both support the elimination of nuclear weapons, her
organization couldn't support an initiative which called for the
elimination
Re: [CTRL] 'Our own image'
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, earthman wrote: -Caveat Lector- Of course, I should have realised. Thanks so much for your insight LOL! My thoughts exactly! What an erudite dude, huh? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Chinese official looks upon U.S. as 'rogue' state
-Caveat Lector- -- Chinese official looks upon U.S. as 'rogue' state Copyright © 1999 Nando Media Copyright © 1999 Christian Science Monitor Service By KEVIN PLATT (October 28, 1999 12:56 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - Like the United States, China says it is witnessing the potential emergence of a "rogue" state that could throw the world out of balance early in the next century. Washington warns that unpredictable regimes in nations such as North Korea and Iraq could one day develop long-range missiles and a handful of atomic bombs to engage in nuclear blackmail or worse. But China's top arms control negotiator, Sha Zukang, says a bigger threat to global stability is already armed to the teeth with hydrogen bombs and sophisticated rockets that can send a nuclear payload to any point on the planet. That country, Sha says, is the United States. "Because the U.S. believes it's the only superpower in the world, it can act at will, without regard for international law and international norms," he says. Washington seems to be developing a stubbornness against abiding by weapons' control pacts and a greater penchant to use armed force against its real or perceived enemies, Sha complains. The end of the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union has not ushered in an era of global peace, he says. Rather, it is creating a United States that is drunk with its own power and technological prowess, adds Sha, whose official title is director-general of the Arms Control and Disarmament Department of the Chinese foreign ministry. Sha is not one of the Communist Party hardliners here who regularly lashes out at the United States. Rather, he is affable, cosmopolitan, and open, and seems more disillusioned than angry with the United States. Sha cites as one example of aggressiveness the U.S. bombing of a medical plant in Sudan that American intelligence initially accused of producing chemical weapons. The 1998 missile attack was not approved by any global organization, and the United States has never offered the world community solid proof that the plant made anything but medicine. "The U.S. bombing of Sudan was an act of state terrorism," Sha says. There is a growing list, he adds, of similar acts of aggression against sovereign states in violation of the U.N. Charter or other global laws. Not only did the United States and NATO launch a massive attack on Yugoslavia without obtaining the U.N.'s approval, but the coalition delivered, with pinpoint precision, five missiles into Beijing's embassy in Belgrade. That bombing "was an obvious violation of the Vienna Convention," he says. While Beijing appreciates Washington's apologies and compensation for victims of the attack, the United States government "still has to identify the culprits (behind the bombing) and bring them to justice." A U.S. official formerly based in Beijing agrees. "So far the (U.S.) government has said institutional mistakes led to the bombing of the Chinese Embassy," says the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "But specific individuals were responsible for mistakenly targeting the embassy, and heads should roll as a result of those fatal mistakes." Sha suggests the growing disregard of the United States for international weapons conventions and rules of war is, in turn, making China more circumspect about joining arms control regimes. "We might have already ratified the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty if not for the bombing of our embassy in Yugoslavia," he says. That treaty, which aims to ban all nuclear weapons testing, was rejected by the U.S. Senate even though "the United States was the first country to promote and to sign the treaty," Sha says. Sha says he is puzzled by the vote not only because Washington was one of the pact's top proponents, but also because it would have allowed the United States to lock in its nuclear superiority and prevent any wannabes from crashing into the nuclear club. "The U.S. has the biggest and most sophisticated nuclear arsenal in the world," and could have frozen that advantage perpetually by signing the treaty, he says. Instead, the Senate's vote against ratification is alienating the United States from the rest of the world, Sha says. "Not a single country in the world has given its support for the U.S. Senate's rejection of the treaty." China's defense ministry is now reviewing the test ban pact, and hints that Beijing could ratify it early next year, during a spring meeting of the national legislature. "I negotiated (the treaty) - it's my baby," says Sha, who adds that he wants to see it ratified as soon as possible. Washington's abandonment of the nuclear treaty it pushed so hard to help produce "was wrong politically and morally, but at least it did not violate any international agreements," Sha says. More alarming, he says, is a U.S. plan to build a national anti-missile shield that would violate the 1972 Anti-ballistic Missile Treaty. Russia, which also
[CTRL] Sail On Sailor
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From
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{{Begin}}
Publications of the Center for Security Policy
No. 99-D 125
DECISION BRIEF
28 October 1999
Were Senate Foreign Relations to Get to the Bottom of Adm. Prueher's Stint as
CINCPAC, It Might Sink his Posting to Beijing
(Washington, D.C.): The Senate Foreign Relations Committee is scheduled to hold
hearings today on the nomination of Admiral Joseph Prueher (USN Ret.), the
former Commander-in-Chief, Pacific (CINCPAC), to become the next U.S.
ambassador to Communist China. It was highly ironic, given the extraordinary
lengths to which Admiral Prueher went in his previous capacity to endear
himself to the Chinese, that Beijing delayed this posting for many months as
part of its retaliation for the bombing of its embassy in Belgrade. If the
Committee is doing its job, it will put the Prueher nomination on hold for a
bit longer in order to permit a close examination of evidence that may suggest
the Admiral's demonstrated determination to please the PRC make him unsuited to
represent U.S. interests there.
Just the Facts, Ma'am
Specifically, the Center has learned that there may be a number of documents --
many, if not all of them, classified -- that could shed light on this question.
If so, the Foreign Relations Committee ought to have an opportunity to examine
and evaluate them prior to acting on this nominee. These are said to include:
A cable describing a meeting between Taiwan's highest military leader Tang Fei
and Admiral Prueher in his office in Pacific Command in Honolulu.
Documentation concerning the changes Admiral Prueher made in the planning for
the defense of Taiwan in the spring of 1996, soon after he assumed command of
the Pacific Command.
The U.S. Air Force's written objections to such changes.
The Strategic Command's written objections (not to be confused with those
expressed by the Air Force) when Adm. Prueher reportedly refused to accept any
nuclear targeting experts at Pacific Command.
Documentation of Adm. Prueher's decision that no nuclear target planners would
be assigned to the Pacific Command staff, a dramatic departure from previous
practice.
Documentation of the reported decision by the JCS Chairman to remove Taiwan
planning from Adm. Prueher's Pacific Command in Honolulu and transferred it to
the JCS instead.
Documentation reflecting Adm. Prueher's reported objections to various arms
sales requests made by Taiwan.
Evidence that Adm. Prueher did obtain the necessary permission from the Defense
Department for either a tour for People's Liberation Army officers of a U.S.
nuclear attack submarine or for sending the PLA naval delegation to sensitive
U.S. Navy training facilities in California during the visit of several ships
of the Chinese navy to San Diego.
Materials bearing on Adm. Prueher's conduct with the PLA and the lengths to
which he went to become the first CINCPAC to be received by the President of
China in Beijing, actions that may also bear on the issue of unauthorized
military-to-military contacts between the two countries.
The Bottom Line
Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Jesse Helms (R-NC) has provided immensely
important leadership throughout his career in resisting efforts to curry favor
with Communist despots at the expense of U.S. national security and other
interests. Most recently, he has joined forces with Sen. Robert Torricelli (D-
NJ) to sponsor the very valuable Taiwan Security Enhancement Act (TSEA)(1) of
1999 -- an act strenuously opposed by the Chinese and by their friends in the
Clinton Administration.
Given Adm. Prueher's track record it seems certain that, even without
instructions, he will be a forceful new critic of this important legislation.
That fact alone might justify delaying action on his nomination until after
action on the TSEA -- which was adopted in a modified form by an overwhelming,
bipartisan vote in the House International Relations Committee earlier this
week -- is completed, hopefully before the congressional recess this fall.
At the very least, the principle that Sen. Helms has established in his
committee's consideration of the Holbrooke and Mosely-Braun nominations --
namely, that Senators are entitled, before acting on controversial (if not
deeply flawed) nominations, to be privy to relevant information in the hands of
the executive branch that bears upon the candidate's ethics, judgment and
professional conduct -- should be observed in this case. No action should be
taken on his nomination until all such information has been supplied and
properly considered by the Committee. As Sen. Bob Smith (I-NH) notes in today's
Washington Times (see the attached), Adm. Preuher should be the first to seek
the prompt release of these documents to the committee allowing the Senate to
complete its duties as expeditiously and as fully as possible.
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1. See the Center's National Security Alerts (No. 99-A 28, 30 July 1999) and
(No. 99-A 38, 22
