[CTRL] Netherlands And Euthanasia
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Netherlands And Euthanasia 06:32AM Tue Apr 04 2000 NZST http://www.xtra.co.nz/homepage/news/main/0,1081,News%3AWorld+News%3A168766,0 0.html? Karen Iley AMSTERDAM, April 3 (Reuters) - Campaigners are predicting that euthanasia and assisted suicide will soon become legal in the Netherlands -- for anyone aged 12 and upwards. If a bill now before parliament is passed, it will make the Netherlands the first country to legalise mercy killing. "I think during the course of this year, and even possibly before the summer, the second chamber (lower house) will address the issue and vote in favour," Jacob Kohnstamm, new chairman of the Dutch Voluntary Euthanasia Society (DVES), told foreign journalists on Monday. The Dutch have tolerated mercy killings for years, but with the possibility of doctors being prosecuted for murder under the penal code, the bill aims to remove a legal grey area. However, the clause to allow euthanasia for children without parental consent has proved highly controversial. The DVES argues that a 1995 bill giving girls aged 12 to 15 the same right to an abortion as adults, without parental consent, met similar opposition before passing. "If you think of a child who has cancer, who has gone through medical treatment, when they're 14 or 15 years old they tend to be more mature than most of the people I meet in one day," said Kohnstamm, a lawyer and member of the upper house. "All doctors concerned say it is very rare for parents and kids not to want the same thing." But the Royal College of Physicians in the Netherlands says this means the clause is unnecessary, and the Dutch organisation for parents of children with cancer agrees. The Netherlands are already seen as liberal in areas such as drugs, pornography and gay rights, and some fear the bill will spur an influx of people seeking to end their lives. Kohnstamm rejected the idea: "This is not possible at all. There is no relation between the patient and the doctor, the doctor cannot see the history of the case, and maybe can't even talk the same language. 'Euthanasia tourism'? No way." The bill sets out strict guidelines. It insists the patient must have made a voluntary, well-considered and lasting request, and face a future of unremitting and unbearable suffering. The doctor must have told the patient about his situation and prospects and reached the firm conclusion that there is no reasonable alternative. A second physician must be consulted and the life must be ended in a medically appropriate way. Latest data from the DVES show 3,600 deaths in 1995 from euthanasia or assisted suicide -- where the doctor supplies the drugs but does not administer them. This number includes deaths not reported to the coroner -- about 59 percent of cases. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ALERT - RED CHINA IS GATHERING FORCES
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html From: American Patriot Friends Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; APFN ONELIST [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ALERT - RED CHINA IS GATHERING FORCES Date: Thursday, March 30, 2000 2:01 AM Subject: ALERT - RED CHINA IS GATHERING FORCES Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:04:58 -0700 From: Christopher Ruby To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Koenig's International News" Note from Bill: Thanks to Phil Massey for sending this along. The Clinton administration hasn't had a lot of good news over the last ten days. They now have to contend with the China buildup near Taiwan; they had a rough trip to India and Pakistan; an uneventful stop in Geneva with the Syrians; the election of a president in Russia who vows to bring them back as a military power and who plans to include former KGB member in his administration; news that Iraq is close to having nuclear missile capability; and the possibility of the Kosovo situation worsening in the next few weeks as the weather improves. To say the least, the momentum appears to be shifting for Clinton. - Phil's Editorial comment: U. S. National Security Advisor Sandy Berger has been dispatched to China. I have posted an article dated today, March 28th, by Bill Gertz of the Washington Times, regarding the deployment of advanced missiles by China at a base directly opposite Taiwan. According to the article, the base was expected to be operational about this time. Chinese bases near Taiwan sport defense missiles http://www.washtimes.com/national/default-2000328225110.htm -- China Gathering Forces - 'Three Roads To Death' Warning By Al Santoli - Editor China Reform Monitor No. 290, March 27, 2000 American Foreign Policy Council, Washington, DC http://www.afpc.org 3-27-00 TAIWAN OFFERS OLIVE BRANCH, BEIJING THREATENS "3 ROADS TO DEATH"; PLA PAPER DESCRIBES WAR PLANS, IRON-HULL BOATS GATHER ON CHINA COAST Editor: Al Santoli March 21: China's Defense Minister Gen. Chi Haotian arrived in coastal Fujian province to inspect army, air force and naval units and logistical organizations, such as military hospitals, the Hong Kong Ping Kuo Jih Pao reports. Orders have been given to military hospitals in Xiamen and Zhangzhou, which had been open to the public, to vacate several floors. Civil structures near military airports and ports have been ordered to be demolished, as soon as possible. March 22: The nationally syndicated newspaper, Haowangjao Weekly, supported by the People's Liberation Army, has published a special 16-page edition that describes in detail ways that Beijing may seek to conquer Taiwan by force, including the use of neutron bombs. The paper said plans include an amphibious assault using thousands of Chinese fishing boats to carry troops. It dismisses American intervention, claiming China is in "the final stage" of developing new long-range multiple-warhead missiles. "The United States will not sacrifice 200 million Americans for 20 million Taiwanese," the article predicts. In a worst case scenario, the paer suggests China could attack US allies in Asia, as well as striking at US military bases in Japan, South Korea and Guam. Chinese troops could also be deployed to North Korea to neutralize or strike South Korea. "If US forces lose thousands or hundreds of men under our powerful strikes, the anti-war sentiment in their country will force the US government to take the same path as they did in Vietnam," the paper states. "We could lose a large number of people to liberate Taiwan." the paper states. "But as long as the territory of the mainland does not get huge damage, the real losses are only soldiers and material. It won't present a serious threat to our national economy." March 24: Hundreds of Chinese 100-ton iron-hulled "fishing" vessels in military formation and carrying men looking like Public Security officers are reported massing in the Taiwan Strait, opposite the Taiwan-controlled island of Matsu, reports the Taiwan Central News Agency. Taiwanese troops stationed on nearby Tungyin islet have gone on heightened combat readiness alert. "Apparently they are not there to catch fish," said Taiwanese magistrate Liu Li-chun. The official Xinhua news agency quoted China's Vice Premier Quan Qichen that Beijing will, "make no compromises" on "the one-China principle as the only basis for talks with Taiwan's president-elect Chen Shui-bian. Qian did not refer to Chen's good-will gestures. Qian warned, "If someone wants to disregard the lives of and safety of 23 million Taiwan compatriots by pursuing the so-called Taiwan independence, they will come to no good." The Beijing China Defense News threatened, "Taiwan's new leader should think carefully whether he wants to be condemned
[CTRL] Ancient Egypt, Monuments of Mars, and ET Contact
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- HIJACKING THE GODS http://www.templarlodge.com/stargate.html#Ancient Egypt, Mars ET's Ancient Egypt, the Monuments of Mars, and Extraterrestrial Contact Exclusive extract from a lecture by LYNN PICKNETT and CLIVE PRINCE at the Templar Lodge Hotel, Gullane, near Edinburgh, Scotland 6th June 1999 It was very surprising set of circumstances that led us to write our new book, The Stargate Conspiracy. We did not set to write such a book. Rather, we intended to pursue certain lines of research following on from our last book, The Templar Revelation, in which we concluded that Christianity was an off-shoot of the Egyptian mystery religion of Isis and Osiris. In that book, we only took the story back to the Egypt of the first century. It was our intention to extend the research further back into the history of Egypt and the roots of its religion. Our research led us back to the most ancient religion known from ancient Egypt, that of Heliopolis, whose beliefs and cosmology, which are encapsulated in the Pyramid Texts, inspired the builders of the Great Pyramid of Giza. Inevitably, we were drawn into considering the mysteries posed by the great monuments of the Pyramid Age. And, of course, we could not ignore the recent flood of high-profile books dealing with, and offering solutions to, those mysteries, which make up what has been called 'alternative Egyptology'. Throughout the 1990s, many books, challenging the arrogance and complacency of academic Egyptology and opening our eyes to the wonders of that ancient culture, have reached a huge audience world-wide. In this field, two names stand out above the rest: Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval, authors - jointly and separately - of such books as The Orion Mystery, Fingerprints of the Gods, Keeper of Genesis and, most recently, The Mars Mystery. It was looking at these new theories and ideas that led our research in a very unexpected direction, and which led ultimately to The Stargate Conspiracy. We need to make a very important point at the outset. Much of what we are about to say is critical of some of these new ideas, and you may even begin to suspect that we are, in some way, sceptics. This is not so. We believe that there are genuine mysteries about ancient Egypt - such as how (and why) they built the pyramids, where their civilisation came from, and how they knew many of the things that they knew. We are not admirers of the obstinate arrogance of academic Egyptology, and have enormous reverence for ancient Egypt, its culture and religion, and the achievements of its people. It is precisely because we have such reverence that we feel so strongly about the way that the very real mysteries of Egypt have, effectively, been hijacked in order to serve other agendas. Where there is a mystery there is the potential for exploitation, by offering apparent solutions that support particular systems of belief. This potential is even stronger when the mystery involves something as evocative as ancient Egypt, whose works, such as the pyramids and Sphinx, speak so powerfully to our imaginations. The Alternative Egyptology tries to explain the enigma of the advanced technical knowledge of the ancient Egyptians - as displayed most obviously in the building of the Great Pyramid - by one of two theories (or sometimes a combination of the two). The first is that the ancient Egyptians were merely an off-shoot, or heirs, of a much older, advanced civilisation - such as Atlantis - which has been erased from history by some global catastrophe. The second is that the great monuments of the ancient world were either built by, or the skills to build them taught by, visitors from another world. One of the most influential of books in this field is The Sirius Mystery by Robert Temple, which was first published in 1976 and in an extensively updated edition in 1998. As many of you will know, it homes in on the extraordinary knowledge of a West African tribe, the Dogon of Mali. The Dogon religion centres on the star Sirius. There is nothing unusual about that because, as Sirius is the brightest star in the sky, many cultures have incorporated it into their beliefs and mythology. However, what intrigued Temple - and many others - was that French anthropologists who studied the Dogon religion reported that they also believed that Sirius has a companion - a very small and very heavy star that is invisible to the naked eye. We now know that this is true. Sirius is a binary star system, with a second, white dwarf star - very small, very heavy - in orbit around the main star. Sirius B, as it is called, was only discovered in 1842, and it was not photographed until the 1970s. How, then, could the Dogon have known about it? Temple's theory is that the knowledge of Sirius B originated from actual contact with extraterrestrials from a planet in the Sirius system. He argues that this contact took place, not in West Africa, but
[CTRL] Gateway to the Gods - New Approach to Mysteries of Egypt -Picknett Prince 1/2
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- GATEWAY TO THE GODS A New Approach to the Mysteries of Ancient Egypt http://www.templarlodge.com/stargate.html#Ancient Egypt, Mars ET's Exclusive extract from a lecture by LYNN PICKNETT and CLIVE PRINCE at the Templar Lodge Hotel, Gullane, near Edinburgh, Scotland, 7th June 1999 Our research for The Stargate Conspiracy - although mainly leading to the uncovering of the conspiracy of the title - also opened up other, more positive and exciting, avenues that offer a solution to some of the enduring mysteries of ancient Egypt. Previously, we discussed the two most popular theories put forward to explain the puzzle of the ancient Egyptians' inexplicably advanced techniques - that the ancient Egyptians either learned their skills from a lost civilisation, or from visiting extraterrestrials. We would now like to offer an alternative theory, which, although not evoking Atlanteans or space-gods still has a resolutely otherwordly quality. The technical achievements of the ancient Egyptians, as displayed most obviously in the building of monuments such as the Great Pyramid and the Sphinx of Giza, and the questions that they pose for conventional historians, are too well known to need repeating here. But it was not only in this area that the Egyptians were so sophisticated. Even in the superficial field of cosmetics, recent discoveries have shown that their practical application of chemistry was far from primitive. In fact, they did what Givenchy and Christian Dior have only just begun to do, incorporating active sun-block into foundation creams. However, what most intrigued was the extraordinary cosmological knowledge that can be found within their religious texts. The earliest religion known in ancient Egypt was that of Heliopolis. Now buried under a suburb of Cairo, and marked by a single obelisk, Heliopolis was the greatest religious centre of ancient Egypt, and home to not only what we would call religion, bur also every other kind of knowledge, from philosophy and medicine to cosmology. The High Priest of Heliopolis also held the title that translates as 'Chief Astronomer'. Imhotep, the genius who designed and built the first pyramid, the Step Pyramid of Djoser at Saqqara, was a priest of Heliopolis. We don't know when Heliopolis was established, but we do know that when records began in Egypt it was already the supreme religious centre. The religion of Heliopolis was the religion of the pyramid builders. In fact, the three Giza pyramids align with Heliopolis, which is 12 miles (20km) away. This is one alignment that is even accepted by Egyptologists. The religion of Heliopolis is encapsulated in the famous Pyramid Texts, which are hieroglyphic inscriptions covering the walls of some fourth dynasty pyramids. Although the earliest inscripions date from some 200 years after the building of the Great Pyramid, there is no doubt that the texts are much older. From studying them, we can discover not only what the Heliopolitan priesthood believed in a religious sense, but also the extent of their knowledge in other areas. The central theme of the Pyramid Texts is the afterlife - or rather the presumed afterlife - journey of the King, in which he is identified with the god Osiris and ascends to the heavens where he is transformed into a star. In this otherwordly realm he has many adventures in which he encounters various gods and other entities, and has to persuade them to accept him into their ranks. When this happens he is reincarnated as his own successor, in the form of Osiris's son Horus. The most fundamental revelation of the Pyramid Texts is that the Heliopolitan religion was essentially monotheistic. (Will admirers of Akhenaten please take note!) Although there were many god-forms, they were all understood to represent the many aspects of the One God, Atum. In fact, all living things were considered as part of Atum, including mankind. In the Heliopolitan creation story, in the beginning the Universe was a formless, watery void, called Nun. Out of this emerged a phallic-shaped hill, the primeval mound, the centre of all creation. On this hill, Atum masturbated himself to an explosive orgasm that both gave birth to the Universe and seeded it with life. From this act, the Universe expanded outward, becoming ever more complex and unfolding through many levels of creation until the material world that we inhabit came into being. Atum was hermaphroditic, encompassing both male and female principles. But immediately after his creative act, two beings, the god Shu and the goddess Tefnut, emerge. Another name for Tefnut is Ma'at, goddess of eternal justice and balance. Shu is the male principle, the active force, and Tefnut the female principle that limits, controls and directs the male. The principle of duality - similar to the Taoist yin-yang - is fundamental to the Heliopolitan system. From the union of Shu and Tefnut are born Geb, the
[CTRL] Gateway to the Gods - New Approach to Mysteries of Egypt -Picknett Prince 2/2
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Gateway to the Gods - New Approach to Mysteries of Egypt -Picknett Prince 2/2 http://www.templarlodge.com/stargate.html#Ancient Egypt, Mars ET's But first, it is worth considering how we tend to think people learn new skills. We normally think that there are only two ways - whether we're talking about an individual or a civilisation. Either we work it our for ourselves by experimentation or trial and error, or somebody else (who has already worked it out) teaches us. This is, in a nutshell, the problem of the anomalous sophistication of ancient Egypt (and many other ancient civilisations). There is no archeaological evidence of a process of gradual development of these skills. So logically we have to invoke the second method, and assume that they were taught these things, either by a lost civilisation or by ancient astronauts. But what if there is a third way to acquire knowledge? On an individual level, we know that there is: inspiration. But can this work for an entire culture, and if so what would be the mechanism behind it? Is there any evidence for such a thing? There is. And it is something that is happening today. During our research we came across the ground-breaking work of a Swiss anthroplogist named Jeremy Narby, who in 1995 wrote a book called, in English, The Cosmic Serpent, DNA and the Origins of Knowledge. About fifteen years ago, Narby was studying the indigenous people of the Peruvian Amazon, and became fascinated by their astounding botanical knwowledge, specifically their use of plants for medical and other purposes. What intrigued him most was how these supposedly primitive people had acquired this knowledge. Since they have no science in the sense that we understand it, they must have learned how to make their medicines by trial and error. But there are some 80,000 species of plants growing in the Amazon rain forest, so to discover an effective remedy using just two of them would theoretically require the testing of every possible combination - just under four billion. But many of their medicines involve not just two plants, but several. If they had found their recipes by experimentation, it would have taken millions of years to find just a few, and yet they have a vast range of medicines and other useful substances. Added to this, preparation of many of them involve long and complex processes with many stages. The classic example is curare. This is a powerful poison whose ingredients come from several different plants, and which, Narby points out, fits a very precise set of requirements. The hunters needed something that, when smeared on the tips of blow-pipe darts, would not only kill an animal but also ensure that it does not tighten its death-grip on a branch and die out of reach (as often happens with animals killed by arrows). And the meat would have to be safe to eat. It seems like a very tall order - but curare fits all these requirements perfectly. It is a muscle relaxant, which kills by arresting the respiratory muscles. It is only effective when injected directly into the bloodstream, hence its delivery by blowpipe, and has no effect when taken by mouth. The most common type of curare requires a complicated method of preparation in which the extracts of several plants are boiled together for three days, during which lethal fumes are given off. And the final result needs a specific piece of technology - the blow-pipe - to deliver it. How was all this discovered? The problem becomes even more baffling, because no fewer than forty different types of curare are used in the Amazon rain forest. All do the same job but use slightly different ingredients, because the same plants do not grow in every region. Therefore, in effect, curare was invented forty times. After puzzling about such questions for a long time, Narby realised that the best way to find an answer was to ask the Amazonians themselves. So how do they claim to have discovered curare - and all the other plants-derived substances that they use? In fact, they take no credit for them. They claim that all were given to them by the spirits through their shamans. Shamans have existed throughout the world, especially in tribal societies. They are what used to be called witch doctors, especially talented and highly trained trance psychics, who use their gifts to heal, locate the best hunting and find water in times of drought. In short, they help to solve the problems of the tribe, and help it survive. The shaman does this by going into trance, which can be induced in a variety of ways, from whirling, drumming and dancing, to taking psychoactive drugs derived from plants or mushrooms. Those studied by Narby in Peru achieve their trance by ingesting a plant mixture called ayahuasca, which mimics a substance found naturally in the human brain and which, in large doses, is a powerful hallucinogen. When in trance, the shaman's spirit goes on a journey
Re: [CTRL] CLINTON PULLS LEGAL STUNT IN WILLEY PRIVACY ACT MATTER
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 04/03/2000 7:54:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hillary Clinton is one of the defendants in the lawsuit. According to sworn admissions by the White House, she furthered the President's crime by participating in the decision to release the letters as part of the effort to smear Willey. Yeah, I'm a little touchy about women sending letters requiring "privacy" to my husband, too. You know how it is with us wives. We just have no appreciation of all those damsels in distress. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Gateway to the Gods
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- There is a BRAND NEW INTERVIEW with Picknett and Prince at http://www.dailygrail.com/interviews/pickprince1.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Are the Rats Jumping off the Ship before it goes Down?
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 04/03/2000 11:52:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 51-year-old Freeh also has been approached by several firms and offered=20 jobs with seven-figure salaries, sources said. Freeh has not accepted an=20 offer but hopes to make a decision in time to leave before the end of the=20 year. Freeh has presided over dramatic growth of the FBI and a renewed emphasis on= =20 discipline after a period marred by FBI missteps and scandals. Despite=20 heightened tensions with senior Justice Department officials, Freeh has=20 enhanced the FBI's credibility on Capitol Hill. In the aftermath of fiery and bloody finishes to FBI standoffs near Waco,=20 Tex., and at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, before his arrival, Freeh instituted new=20 policies for the bureau's hostage rescue team that are credited with ending=20 other standoffs peacefully. But Freeh was at the helm of the FBI when 168 people died in a terrorist=20 attack at the federal building in Oklahoma City. With a mortgage exceeding $400,000 and a salary as FBI director of $141,300, Apparently Mr. Freeh cannot live within his income--a flaw shared by many. I've watched his management of the FBI as well, and I can't say I think much of his managerial ability. I particularly enjoyed watching him as he sabotaged his various levels of supervision. I'm certainly all for him going into industry where backstabbing is just all in a day's work. He'll fit right in there. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] What are we to believe?
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I may have posted this already, but I have some Kabballah posts and would like you to see who is doing what with the Kabballah, regarding the return of the 'Messiah'? arranged by Dr James Hurtak's Et masters to come about in Jerusalem..It appears that an Israeli Kabbalist seems to be following a similar philosophy to Hurtak with the regathering of the 12 tribes in Israel in anticipation of this event. http://www.thehope.org/futmyth.htm REALIZING THE HEAVENLY JERUSALEM Appendix "C" Future Mythology http://www.thehope.org/TEKENLIT.htm Constructing the Technology of Enlightenment Using light technology to nurture "Human Enlightenment" The optimal direction of High-Or Ltd Y.I. HayutMa'n, Cyber Architect. The Academy of Jerusalem and High-Or Inc. The Temple being rebuilt for this. We know that Yair Davidi in Israel has located the 12 tribes now from all over. Hurtak writes in the Keys of Enoch, referring to the Kabballa constantly as his guide, that the 12 tribes will be taken through time portals to other constellations to create another genesis. Hurtak hints he is Jacob. So maybe he thinks he is regathering his 'descendents' and has some divine right to do so. yea right...We must bear in mind that Dr Puharich [who was Hurtak's boss at Ossining] wrote a book about Sacred Mushrooms and is an expert on hallucinogenic plants.Hurtak dosen't say by what means he had a trip across the universe. However he does say he went bodily, but which body? He said he was praying and a great being appeared and he sped upwards into the heavens. Considering he has invented a free energy device, one would think he'd describe the propulsion of the vehicle he travelled in. But this dosen't bear a mention. His DNA analysis of the 'chosen ones' is rather lengthy. He is very explicit in some parts of the book esp if it concerns science, but when it comes to describing the culling of the the lower races, he makes Nostrodamus sounds clear. I have scanned 11 chapters of Intro to the Keys of Enoch. He dosen't have about the mass genocide in the intro book.The Day of Declaration talks of when the Reappearance of the [ET] Masters of Wisdom is supposedly coming, when somehow the earth gets zapped into the 4th dimension and all those who don't become a body of Light will be 'recycled'. In other words get killed, be terminated. He says to look at the positive side of death. He mentions this several times throughout the book. The ETs he says will be picking up those, with what sounds like implants .[he calls them vibratory Light crystals of the Christ blood encoded upon the doorposts of the body temple of Gematria.The sign of YHWH's name will be upon their 3rd eye and they will be taken from the fields after a scanner will probe the face of the earth and locate the chosen ones and they will go to the vehicles] The implants are up the nose in some cases and I have seen a post saying the implanted are to be taken away for repopulation of other planets. Dr Bruce Maccabbee said Ashtar told him this personally [by someone channeling him to answer questions Maccabbee was asking Ashtar]. It does say in the Bible that 2 will be in the field and one will be taken. Though what that means is debatable. Hurtak could be be applying this to the CIA military abductees, who have been genetically catalogued. As the Mormons have been mentioned positively by Hurtak as having the angel Moroni as the correct teacher, maybe they use the ancestry records for the abductions. The Mormons are apparently routinely recruited as CIA agents. Hurtak says the Mormons are the Living Tribe of Joseph. I have some articles which show the research done by Hurtak's former boss Andrija Puharich, who did research for the CIA into mind control, and what wavelengths affect the human consciousness. One ET channelled by a 'top world renowned scientist' in the early 70's found out that the ionosphere reflects the human brain waves. The name wasn't given, but I will post the Et dialogue. However Puharich was contacting Ets at that time for scientific info about consciousness. ?? HAARP is destroying the ionosphere and magnetosphere and I have a post about this which states that this is what was created at Montauk to be employed for mind control. They are busily destroying 'our reality' and changing it to another one. I have about 5/6posts which link the whole scheme together with the changing of our DNA by HAARP/The Second Coming and the destruction of this 3D reality that we now exist in to be replaced by one which Hurtak's Ets have created for us. One in which the Ets he has with him from Sirius, are claiming to be the Biblical figures, that 'they created us' and they have the right to destroy us as they wish. Hurtak's writings about DNA needing to be changed by ultra violet are very similar to Puharichs writings about his DNA
[CTRL] OEN 4/4/00
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Digital Society Chinese Log On to Honor the Dead Virtual immortality. THOUSANDS of Chinese urban professionals are building digital "memorial halls" for their ancestors on the internet, joining a nationwide surge in enthusiasm for paying respects to the graves of family members. After decades of enforced atheism, traditional rites and beliefs have soared in popularity, as Chinese shaken by the collapse of the old Communist certainties seek a new spiritual direction. Despite government warnings against "superstition" and calls for cremation rather than wasting precious land on graves, many of the new rich are lavishing their money on the dead. Thousands of internet users are logging on to a web site devoted to ancestor worship, founded by Beijing computer graduates with Singapore Chinese investment, in time for the annual festival of Qing Ming, Tomb Sweeping Day, tomorrow. The web site has provoked approving newspaper headlines, and claims to have had 300,000 visits in the first few days of operation. Tomorrow will see pious families cleaning graves, making offerings of cake, fruit and incense, and burning paper funeral money to give the deceased something to spend in the afterlife. Provincial Communist cadres have been caught erecting vast mausoleums to their own memories. Beijing issued a stern warning that all memorials built with public funds had to receive government approval. But a growing number of well-educated Chinese have found work far from their home towns, and cannot return for Qing Ming. The new Chinese-language internet site offers urbanites the chance to construct their own "memorial halls" for family members, choosing from a variety of architectural and religious styles. Photographs can be posted in the hall, as well as poems, prayers, obituaries and brief snatches of music. Visitors may light candles, and lay virtual flowers. Halls are free for the moment, though the company aims to charge wealthy patrons for the construction of elaborate memorials. More than 1,000 "halls" have been built. The London Telegraph, April 4, 2000 - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Chiang Kai-Shek Rolling in His Grave
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V4.14/taiwan_demise.htm Click Here: A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V4.14/taiwan_demise.htm"Chiang Kai-Shek Rolling in His Grave, by Andrew /A - Chiang Kai-Shek Rolling in His Grave by Andrew Perrin Taipei, TaiwanIf their world has been turned upside down, as many Taiwanese have been inclined to comment when reflecting on the historic events of the past two weeks, then Chiang Kai-shek, the man they once called Generalissimo, and who is buried just 30km north of Taipei city, must be rolling in his grave. His beloved Nationalist party that he resurrected in 1926 from the ashes of Sun Yat-sens Three Principles of the People; that he transplanted to Taiwan in 1949 after a humiliating defeat at the hands of the Communists on the mainland; and then reinvented, through purge, ploy, patronage and realpolitik, so that it could survive long after his death in 1975, is on the verge of irrelevance, possibly even extinction, if the doomsayers in Taipei are to be believed. And there are many of them. The World's Richest Political Party in Ruins Just over a week after the party had suffered its first defeat in the islands young democratic history, it is no secret that the Nationalists, the worlds richest political party, now stand at the cross roads. Last week saw the unprecedented sight of thousands of disgruntled party members assembled outside party headquarters in downtown Taipei being met head on by a wall of stone-faced riot police: hitherto in Taiwan, a sight reserved for pro-democracy supporters burning the Nationalist flag. On Friday, March 24, the Nationalists protestors got what they were after: the head of the party chairman, and incumbent president Lee Teng-hui, who they blamed for the partys stunning loss in the election. In Taiwan, where politics is never dull, and rarely predictable, Lee stood accused of sabotaging his own partys candidate, Lien Chan, while lending tacit support to the oppositions Chen Shui-bian (who won) during the campaign. It was a charge not without foundation. It is well known in Taiwan that Lee has met regularly in private with Chen, a fellow benshengren, or native Taiwanese, to lend advice and discuss ideas on Taiwans future development. And during the final weeks of campaigning a number of influential public figures close to Lee aligned themselves with Chen. The most notable of these, Nobel-prize winning chemist Lee Yuan-tseh, a man with a flawless public reputation for integrity and honesty, and a close friend of Lees, is believed to have swung near 2 percent of voters into Chens camp the winning margin. That Lee should take some responsibility for the loss was disputed by few. But after 12 years in the chairmans post, his departure leaves the party wide open to a split along ethnic and factional lines. The party is in crisis, said Bau Tzong-ho, political science professor at the National Taiwan University, and policy advisor to Lien Chan, the vice president and acting chairman of the party since Lees departure. We are entering a crucial few months that will determine our future prospects. Prior to Chens March 18 victory, the possibility that the Nationalists could now find itself in such a precarious position was unthinkable. Having ruled Taiwan for 54 years, much of that under martial law, the party has overseen the islands transformation to a democracy and engineered its stunning rise from an agrarian-based society to a hi-tech driven dynamo economy that has become a model for the region. And the party still held a powerful majority in the legislature, boasted a membership of more than 2 million, and had assets tied up in the state and private sectors reportedly worth US$20 billion. But the Nationalists have now fallen prey to the very system that had allowed them to maintain a stranglehold on power for so long. They ruled through a Leninist system that relied upon party membership to secure advancement either in politics or business, said Antonio Chiang, publisher of Taiwans Th e Journalist, and one-time opposition journalist to Nationalist rule under martial law. It was a system they believed unbeatable. There were elements within the party who wanted to reform, who wanted to rid the party of its links with gangsters and its close associations with big business, but that reform was too slow in coming for a rapidly-changing Taiwanese society that was learning to embrace democracy, and the notions of fairness for all that went it. The challenge facing party leaders post-Lee is how to implement reform without splitting the party in two and reducing it to a minor opposition party. Lien Chan, the Insider In Lien Chan, they have a man who straddles the ethnic divide, but little else. Born on the mainland into an elite Taiwanese family, he was handpicked from an early age to one-day lead the party. His rise in the party ranks has been
[CTRL] SPOTLIGHT EMAIL NEWSLETTER #38
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SPOTLIGHT EMAIL NEWSLETTER #38 Date: Sunday, March 12, 2000 9:03 PM SPOTLIGHT EMAIL NEWSLETTER #38 Please visit the controversial LIBERTY LIBRARY BOOKSTORE ONLINE! The store now has the full Liberty Library catalog and a shopping cart system! http://www.spotlight.org/store/commerce.cgi? IN THIS ISSUE: Rebellion In The Jury Clinton's Oil Crisis Judges Could Be Held Accountable Rebellion In The Jury Some say jury nullification is the most practical way to stop the juggernaut police state. By Tom Stahl The Washington Post published a front page story entitled, In Jury Rooms, a Form of Civil Protest Grows, last year. According to the Post article, jurors are not always following judges instructions to the letter. The article recounted that sometimes in jury trials, when those facts which the judge chooses to allow into evidence indicate that the defendant broke the law, jurors look at the facts quite differently from the way the judge instructed them to. The jurors do not say, On the basis of these facts the defendant is guilty. Instead, the jurors say, On the basis of these facts the law is wrong, and they vote to acquit. Or, they may vote to acquit because they believe that the law is being unjustly applied, or because some government conduct in the case has been so egregious that they cannot reward it with a conviction. In short, a passion for justice invades the jury room. The jurors begin judging the law and the government, as well as the facts, and they render their verdict according to conscience. This is called jury nullification. Dr. Jack Kevorkian, recently convicted, was acquitted several times in the past, despite his admission of the governments facts, of assisting the suicide of terminally ill patients who wanted to die. Those acquittals were probably due to jury nullification. And Kevorkian might have been acquitted again if the trial judge had allowed him to present his evidence, testimony of the deceaseds relatives, to the jury. A corollary of jury nullification is greater latitude for the jury to hear all of the evidence. The Post took a dim view of this and suggested that jury nullification is an aberration, a kind of unintended and un wanted side-effect of our constitutional system of letting juries decide cases. But the Post couldnt be more wrong. Far from being an unintended side-effect, jury nullification is explicitly authorized in the constitutions of 24 states. All Criminal cases The constitutions of Maryland, In diana, Oregon and Georgia currently have provisions guaranteeing the right of jurors to judge or determine the law in all criminal cases. Article 23 of Marylands Constitution states: In the trial of all criminal cases, the Jury shall be the Judges of Law, as well as of fact, except that the Court may pass upon the sufficiency of the evidence to sustain a conviction. The right of trial by Jury of all issues of fact in civil proceedings in the several Courts of Law in this State, where the amount in controversy exceeds the sum of five thousand dollars, shall be inviolably preserved. Art. 1, Sec. 19, of Indianas Constitu tion says: In all criminal cases whatever, the jury shall have the right to determine the law and the facts. Oregons Constitution, Art. 1, Sec. 16, states: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines im posed. Cruel and unusual punishments shall not be inflicted, but all penalties shall be proportioned to the offense. In all criminal cases whatever, the jury shall have the right to determine the law, and the facts under the direction of the Court as to the law, and the right of new trial, as in civil cases. Art. 1, Sec. 1 of Georgias Constitution says: The right to trial by jury shall remain inviolate, except that the court shall render judgment without the verdict of a jury in all civil cases where no issuable defense is filed and where a jury is not demanded in writing by either party. In criminal cases, the defendant shall have a public and speedy trial by an impartial jury; and the jury shall be judges of the law and the facts. These constitutional jury nullification provisions endure despite decades of hostile judicial interpretation. LIBEL CASES Twenty other states currently include jury nullification provisions in their constitutions under their sections on freedom of speech, specifically with respect to libel cases. These provisions, listed below, typically state: . . . . in all indictments for libel, the jury shall have the right to determine the law and the facts under the direction of the court. But New Jersey, New York, South Carolina, Utah and Wisconsin omit the phrase under the
[CTRL] Palestinian Intellectuals - The Mouse That Roared (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:12:55 -0400 From: "MiD-EasT RealitieS - www.MiddleEast.Org" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: "Palestinian Intellectuals" - The Mouse That Roared - ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\ THE PALESTINIAN INTELLECTUALS http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! --- To receive MER regularly email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] "PALESTINIAN INTELLECTUALS" Reality rather than Rhetoric MID-EAST REALITIES - WASHINGTON - 3 April 2000: When we commented that the "Palestinian Intellectuals" in their recent Ha'aretz newspaper advertisement were doing much too little, much too late, in the wrong way and in the wrong place, we promised we'd have more to say to try to put all this in perspective. Meanwhile, prompted by our initial commentary last month, the following article calling it like it really is came to us. Now don't misunderstand. We'd love to see Palestinian intellectuals step forward in a serious, sustained, and ongoing way to challenge this miserable and duplicitous "Peace Process". But as with so many other things that go on in the Arab world far too often fiction is substituted for reality, nice image is supposed to compensate for actual impotence, astute criticism is branded as traitorous, and meaningless gestures and organizations are used to co-opt attention and divert energies. Whatever, if and when something serious and sustained and courageous does happen, it won't be a one-time thing that lacks any strategy and follow-up; nor will it just be published in a Hebrew newspaper; nor will it omit condemnation of the Arafat and the other client-regimes that are in fact primarily responsible for the terrible state of affairs; not will it contain the names of such hypocritical and cravenly self-serving types like Hisham Sharabi, George Abed, Hanan Ashrawi, and Samih Farsoun for everything they now touch is badly tainted after so many years of wasting so much money, squandering so much time, and incestuously rewarding each other for their failures. We're well aware that speaking up forthrightly, that naming names, that calling it like it really is, causes confusion, doubt and suspicion for some. And we're well aware that telling the things various groups and interests don't want told and work so hard to keep quiet creates furious attempts to defame the messenger and change the subject. But if we're serious about the issues and determined enough to want to really do something about them then truthful information and hard-headed serious-minded analysis are prerequisites. Hence MER...hence this articlehence the many hundreds of articles now available and searchable by keyword and name at the MER Website -- http://www.MiddleEast.Org/search.htm THE MOUNTAIN GAVE BIRTH TO A MOUSE by Rageb Damian In Arabic there is a saying: The Mountain gave birth to a mouse, which refers to a great effort that takes time and eventually produces little or no results. The metaphor came to me the other day as I read about the petition signed by dozens of Palestinian Intellectuals and published in the Israeli daily Haaretz calling the Oslo Peace process unfair to the Palestinian side. It emphasized the fact that Oslo has failed to produce any results for the Palestinians and warned of dire consequences if Palestinian demands for statehood were not met. What the Petition failed to mention is that the Palestinian Leadership (Arafat and Company), unscathed by the silence and timidity of these Intellectuals and supported of course by the Triad of the US, Israel, and the Arab regimes, is the reason why we have the Oslo process in the first place. And that Oslo would have never happened had the Palestinian leadership not capitulated to becoming Israels policeman in the West Bank and Gaza. The Palestinian Authority simply assumed Israels Occupation goals of keeping the Palestinians oppressed while the Colonization of the West Bank continues. Worse still, the multitude of the police forces independently administered by Arafat, in addition of course to his cronies and ministers, have been responsible for terrible human rights abuses, embezzlement of funds, crack down on freedom of speech, etc. Enter our Intellectuals. Most of those people can be considered detached from their people and living in a world of their own. They are well educated, many graduates and/or professors of/at Western universities. Although they would emphasize their independence, a great majority of them have direct
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #1
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- SkeptiNews 000404a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/03_04_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, excuses, news/views: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No Neanderthal infants were harmed during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ ALIEN RAPTURE: http://www.crystalinks.com/movabduction.gif _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # UFO Reports Up In March: Maine, New York, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Mar- yland, Georgia, Alabama, Kentucky, Illinois, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oregon, Sweden, England - ARE THE ROSWELL SYMBOLS NATIVE AMERICAN? - PLANETS CON- VERGE - BIOWAR TESTING? http://www.sightings.com/general/filers4400.htm @ Underground Civilizations: http://www.crystalinks.com/underciv.html @ Underground Bases Tunnels: http://www.crystalinks.com/underbases.html # New CIA MJ-12 Document Surfaces - TOP SECRET/MJ-12 Directive Draft Memo? http://home.earthlink.net/~rcollins637/reports/mj12_directive_memo.htm : D'ya prefer non-human civilizations to be underground; in space; between dimensions; collaborating with spies/scientists/bankers/terrorists/hackers? Have you collaborated with any non-humans lately? Are they exasperating?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # FIRST PRIVATELY-FUNDED MANNED SPACE MISSION BLASTS OFF FOR MIR. 2 Russian cosmonauts are on their way to staff the empty Mir space station, on the first-ever piloted space mission funded by private investment. Buying-out government: http://CNN.com/2000/TECH/space/04/04/russia.mir.01/index.html # Satellites To Aid Alzheimer's Victims - tracking the demented: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565397168-c24 # Antioxidant Vitamins C And E May Protect Against Mental Decline And Some Dementias: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/03/000331093955.htm : Have you invested in space/dementia/control lately? Are you demented? Can you be medicated/tracked/controlled? Have the voices in y'r head gone quiet? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # THE DROPA STONES. 716 more grooved stone discs were uncovered in the same caves, telling the story of a "space probe" by the inhabitants of another planet that crash-landed in the Baya-Kara-Ula mountains. Many were hunted down and killed by Han tribesmen. http://www.crystalinks.com/dropa.html @ ALL EXTRATERRESTRIALS, ALL THE TIME: http://www.crystalinks.com/extra.html # Rare Tests On Neanderthal Infant Sheds Light On Early Human Development. Modern forensic DNA techniques normally used to determine the identity of modern humans have been applied to a Neanderthal infant. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/03/000331091126.htm @ Humans Aliens: Any Difference? http://www.caus.org/mc040400.htm : Have you tested any humans/robots/angels/aliens/deities/demons lately? Are you certain of the hereditary relationships? Are you a monkey's uncle; your keeper's brother; somebody's mother? Do artifacts establish relationships? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Reports On "Weird Life" Almost Better Than Fiction. "The worlds toughest bacterium" made the Guinness Book of World Records.Deinococcus radiodurans can withstand 1 times the amount of radiation that would kill a human, earning it monikers like "Super Bug" and "Conan the Bacterium." But is it seductive? http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/03/000331090958.htm # SEA CHANGE - Learning To Live With Global Warming: http://www.latimes.com/news/comment/2403/t31243.html # From Shakespeare to Defoe: Malaria in England in the Little Ice Age: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol6no1/reiter.htm : What's your favorite lifeform? Is it tough? Can it withstand environmental extremes? Can you? Are you tough? Can you survive radiation, heat, freezing, dampness, mindcontrol/marketing/malaria? Are you adapted for catastrophe?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # 3 Way Partition Of Israel In The Making. The Pope's Israel visit was more than a pilgrimage to Xian sites. The Israeli govt has secretly agreed with US and Euro negotiators to give up control of Jerusalem, to be partitioned into 3 separate zones - one each for Jews, Arabs, and Christians. The Pope was in Israel to stake out Catholic claims and to ensure that the Catholic Church has overall authority over the future Christian sector. Secret deal with NWO insiders: http://www.sightings.com/general/papalparse.htm # RETURN TO SENDER: Representatives of 52 African countries want European countries to return cultural treasures taken during colonial times. Likely? http://infoculture.cbc.ca/archives/cultpol/cultpol_04032000_africanart.phtml : What's your favorite cultural/political/economic/religious hegemony? Have you forced any conquerors to divest themselves of their holding lately? Will they only divest if their
[CTRL] [NA] PJB Addresses Vote Fraud Issue on C-Span
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html From: Jim Condit Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NA] PJB Addresses Vote Fraud Issue on C-Span Date: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 7:58 AM www.networkamerica.org "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin March 28, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire PJB Addresses Vote Fraud Issue on C-Span In response to a question on C-Span between 7 AM and 8 AM on the morning of March 28, 2000, the following ex-change took place: (This is a word for word transcript of every word in the exchange regarding votefraud, followed by a brief commentary. The caller, a lady from Arizona, began with comments about a book, and referred to another issue in the middle of her votefraud comments, which are indicated by the . . . in the paragraph below. Pat Buchanan addressed her votefraud comments first, and then moved on to the other two issues, but the comments below are cut off at the end of his votefraud comments.) Caller: . . . and, ah, I really noticed how ABC ran the results of the election the day before the election. I also heard the proof that votes were stolen from you in Dubuque, Iowa and several other places and we were convinced they were stolen from you here in Arizona. The Governor declared you winner at 4 oclock. The reason that the media is against you is because you are for Americans and America . . . I am very upset, because, the Voter News Service, I am afraid that they will steal your votes and . . . Announcer: Thanks, caller. Pat Buchanan . . . Patrick J. Buchanan: Alright, thanks. Theres a number of issues there. There, there is, I dont know whether there was hanky panky in the election of 96, but we do have newspapers that showed us in the Dubuque paper getting one set of votes in the Iowa Caucuses, but by the time they got to the Des Moines Register the numbers were different and all of our numbers were reduced. Secondly, there were a number of precincts, where, someone has told me, that havent yet reported from Dubuque where we did very well and that was a very tight race with Bob Dole. I have heard the reports about Arizona, (quick pause) I just (quick pause), and about how well we were doing, and machines moving in and out, there have been books written on it. I honestly do not know the truth . (quick pause) With regard to . . . (End of quote of the votefraud related comments from the transcript of the March 28, 2000 appearance of Pat Buchanan on C-Span.) Network America comments: Item: The lady questioner refers to how ABC ran the results of the election the day before the election . . . perfectly true, and ABC even referred to the results they had released the night before the mid-term election of November 1998, as Devvy Kidd has pointed out in her new version of Blind Loyalty. New and old readers can go into topica.com and look at our February 24, 2000 e-wire for a full report on this ABC glitch. (Again, I hope any day we will have all our former reports up on www.networkamerica.org) Item: The most comprehensive compilation of details regarding the 1996 GOP Presidential Contests in Dubuque, Iowa and Arizona can be found in the 4 page newspaper published by Citizens for a Fair Vote Count in 1996. This can be found on the networkamerica.org website in Archives under the title Help Break the Cover-up. Or the actual newspaper is available for $1 for Citizens for a Fair Vote Count, PO Box 11339, Cincinnati, Ohio 45211, (if anyone wants to distribute quantities in your area of the country, quantity discounts for the Help Break the Cover-up newspaper are 10 copies of $5; 100 copies for $12; 1000 copies for $60). I was on the scene in Dubuque, Iowa and together with Doug Zeitz of California, Chris Schaper of California (both of whom discovered the discrepancy between the results they had witnessed the night before and what appeared in the daily papers the next morning as they were about to board a plane to go back to California), Tim Wozniak, a student at Loras College near Dubuque (who discovered that the GOP county chairman was calling his results into Voter News Service in New York City at the direction of the Iowa GOP), and Sam Lois Pusateri and their family -- the lot of us uncovered the first hand evidence of the fraud in Dubuque. Thanks to the faithfulness and painstaking record gathering of the Pusateris, that evidence is preserved for posterity in their files, and now in ours. With regard to Arizona, Karen Johnson, the Buchanan coordinator for Arizona, received the congratulatory call from Governer Fife Symington in the late afternoon congratulating her on Buchanans victory in the late afternoon, and another Buchanan
[CTRL] CIA: Encounter
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MICHAEL DIRDA
By Michael Dirda
Sunday, April 2, 2000; Page X15 THE CULTURAL COLD WAR
The CIA and the World of Arts and Letters
By Frances Stonor Saunders
New Press. 509 pp. $29.95
This is a particularly difficult book to review. Frances Stonor Saunders has
latched onto a good topic -- the CIA's covert funding of cultural magazines and
conferences, mainly during the 1950s -- and she has spoken with many of the
survivors and relicts of that era. To some degree, she has tried to understand
the mentality of the times, and to sympathize with the various agents and
intellectuals involved in this murky business. But she makes clear, through her
tone and attendant commentary, that she views with loathing the intelligence
community's attempt to wage a cultural offensive against the Soviet Union. As a
result, one reads her book with interest and shock, but also with nagging
reservations. Saunders is hardly an unbiased historian, nor is she ethically
neutral -- were such an attitude even possible. Instead she often writes with
savage indignation.
Which, of course, is how Jonathan Swift described the inspiration for his own
polemical compositions. So perhaps one should regard The Cultural Cold War as a
kind of historical diatribe, a lacerating disquisition on the imperious
attitudes among the ruling classes of post-World War II America. For once again
we revisit the Old Boy Network that deftly transports the bright scions of old
WASP families from Groton to Yale to Harvard Law, thence to some great Wall
Street firm or merchant bank, followed by an undersecretaryship in Washington,
a position at the CIA or a place on the National Security Council. Mature in
years, our lad ends up on the boards of various art museums, philanthropic
foundations and major corporations, sometimes enthroned as a Wise Man or dean
of diplomacy, sleekly suited, with neatly brushed gray hair, consulted, quoted
and revered. Alas, like Louis, in "Casablanca," when he discovers gambling
going on at Rick's Cafe americain, Saunders is shocked, positively shocked to
learn of this intertwining of business, government, the arts and intelligence.
So am I, Ms. Saunders, so am I. But welcome to the world as it really is. In
America we insist on the career open to talents and merit -- it's our national
myth -- but obviously an ambitious young man or woman will be substantially
better off with a moneyed and well-connected family to smooth the way. Simply
consider the example of George W. Bush. Or even that of John Kennedy, who most
of his life seems to have simply hired those he was led to believe were the
best and the brightest (or -- sometimes -- the prettiest). As it happens, in
the postwar era this often self-satisfied, preppy oligarchy grew obsessed with
the communist menace and thus expended considerable energy, cash and manpower
in a shadowy combat, striving to demonize Russia and promulgate classic
American ideals, no matter the moral cost. These men and women may have been
protecting, consciously or unconsciously, their own privileges; but, like it or
not, they were also ardent patriots, upholders of America as a safeguard of
democracy and truth. Were they wrong in what they did? After all, when does a
man of drive and patriotism and self-sacrifice wake up to discover that he has
become a fanatic, a true believer? Surely one would have to be a god to know
whether an Allen Dulles or George Kennan may have saved us from nuclear
Armageddon or made its possibility an unending international nightmare. It is
always easy, in retrospect, to point to Talleyrand's famous motto: "Surtout,
pas de zele" -- Above all, no zeal. But in a really serious fight one would
rather have Rambo than Montaigne by one's side.
At the heart of this study lies the once-famous Congress for Cultural Freedom,
the sponsor for such magazines as Encounter (Britain), Tempo Presente (Italy),
Quest (India), Preuves (France), Der Monat (Germany) and many others. These
"assets" were generally edited by pro-America intellectuals but were ostensibly
journals of independent opinion. In fact, Irving Kristol, Stephen Spender,
Melvin Lasky and Frank Kermode -- all editors of Encounter at one time or
another -- denied knowing that the Congress was actually a CIA front or that
its boss, Michael Josselson, was an agency operative. Saunders takes pains to
insist that certainly by the later 1950s and '60s everyone on the intellectual
cocktail circuit in London and Washington knew about the CIA connection. How
"witting," to use the agency catchphrase, were these cultural jetsetters
really? In short, what did they know? And when did they know it? Given that the
people involved were mainly intellectuals or academics, one can grant them an
ingrained naivete and presume that most of them probably never thought hard
about who was paying for the spiffy parties, the first-class air fares, the
caviar and
[CTRL] FW: Internet Privacy Hearing -- Live Audio
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Dave Hartley http://www.asheville-computer.com/dave -Original Message- From: Barr, Press [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 2:27 PM To: Barr, Press Subject: Internet Privacy Hearing -- Live Audio U.S. Representative Bob Barr (GA-7) announced today that the Constitution Subcommittee, on which he serves, will hold hearings this Thursday on "The Fourth Amendment and the Internet." Barr requested the hearing late last year following a debate about whether to build law enforcement wiretapping access into the Internet. There will be a live audio webcast of the hearing beginning at 2:30 p.m. Eastern on Thursday, April 6, 2000 at: http://www.house.gov/judiciary/schedule.htm "The Internet offers new ways to engage in communication and commerce, but it also gives third parties unprecedented abilities to compile and search data on every person who uses it. It is important we clarify the manner in which time-tested Fourth Amendment protections apply in the electronic world. Unless we get a handle on this, and provide some guidance for, and limitations on, government monitoring of the Internet, personal privacy will be an early casualty of this new century," said Barr. This newsletter is issued periodically and exclusively to subscribers who request it by the office of U.S. Representative Bob Barr (GA-7). To remove your name from the list at any time, simply type "remove" in the subject line of this message and return it. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- SkeptiNews 000404b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/03_04_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, excuses, news/views: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No abstinent demagogues were found during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Bill: http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/70/images/_701665_gates_supuf.gif _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Ground-Penetrating Radar Showing Ancient Civilizations. Tunnels have been mapped under the Mayan pyramid complex at Tikal, which extend a full 800 kilometres to the opposite side of the country. Investigators said it was possible to understand how half a million Mayans escaped the decimation of their culture. http://members.tripod.com/~Ravenwoods/index-55Giza.html # POPE JOHN PAUL II TO TRAVEL TO FATIMA - likelihood of alien abduction is rated "very high" - http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=48696 @ Have you been abducted by aliens lately? http://www.visitations.com # END-TIMES TIMES: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5951 Hurry!! # 2nd Giant Iceberg Amok: http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9626569 : Have you terminated/hidden/discovered any civilizations lately? Will your civilization be terminated/hidden/discovered anytime soon? Are aliens busy abducting civilized folk while their cultures are being terminated? Why not? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Victims of Cult Fire Burned Alive. KAMPALA, Uganda (AP) - The 530 people whose charred bodies were recovered after a doomsday cult's fiery climax were still alive when their gasoline-soaked chapel exploded in flames, forensics tests showed today. The doors and windows of the chapel were bolted from the outside. http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9626995 # ABSTINENCE-ONLY BEST: http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=48714 @ Society for the Attainment of Total Abstinence: http://totalabstinence.com # Crack Down On Body Piercing! http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9627047 # VATICAN MAGAZINE "CIVILTÀ CATTOLICA" WARNS ON RISKS OF ISLAMIC-CATHOLIC MIXED MARRIAGES: http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=48709 : Does y'r belief system grow mainly by: voluntary/forced conversion; births into your creed; mindcontrol/programming? Do you keep your membership count stable by: abstinence; immolation; sterilization; enslavement; harvesting? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Chinese begin cyber-mourning. (BBC) Thousands of Chinese are turning to the Net to continue the tradition of ancestor worship which dates back thousands of years. While past generations of Chinese would have turned to shrines or graves to pay their respects to dead relatives, modern urban Chinese are visiting virtual "memorial halls". A website devoted to the subject said it had 300,000 visits within days of its launch. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_701000/701459.stm # IT'S GOOD TO BE KING. There's no need to be disenfranchised. Just start your own nation. http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.03/kingdoms.html @ ARMCHAIR ANTHROPOLOGY - don't miss the rituals: news:sci.anthropology : Have you studied many human rituals/customs/mores lately? Do human rituals doctrines continuously evolve? D'ya have a hard time keeping up? Have you automated your rituals/customs/mores/studies? Does death slow you down? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Church Logging Plan Opposed. A plan by the Catholic Church to log ancient redwood trees on 62 acres in rural Sonoma County tells environmentalists that nature is being sacrificed to solve cash woes. Church denies link to $16M sex-abuse-payoff debt: http://www.pressdemo.com/local/news/8238.html @ Santa Rosa Diocese: http://www.pressdemo.com/evergreen/diocese/index.html # CDF plans to cite loggers: http://www.pressdemo.com/local/news/48409.html # Mormons hold historic conference - Members told to avoid porn liquor, befriend non-members, pay tithes, drop extra spouses, wash behind ears: http://worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_bresnahan/2404_xex_mormons_hold.shtml # Mormon Conference - 'Miracle has been accomplished' - no beer: http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,155014831,00.html? : Have you worked any miracles lately? Are miracles required when opposing entrenched religious groups? Would you rather live without mates, churches, beer, cash, porn, redwoods? Have you prayed over a clear-cut lately? Where? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # New Chip Advance Mimics Human Eye. BOUYGES, France - Mimicking the human eye's neural networks and the brain, an electronic "eye" on a chip can now handle complex tasks ranging from reading sign language to avoiding collisions. http://www.techweb.com/wire/news/1997/09/0913vision.html # HACKERS CAN TURN YOUR PC INTO A BOMB! Blow you to
Re: [CTRL] What are we to believe?
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- 4/4/00 This stuff is ridiclous. Joshua2 = Nicky Molloy wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I may have posted this already, but I have some Kabballah posts and would like you to see who is doing what with the Kabballah, regarding the return of the 'Messiah'? arranged by Dr James Hurtak's Et masters to come about in Jerusalem..It appears that an Israeli Kabbalist seems to be following a similar philosophy to Hurtak with the regathering of the 12 tribes in Israel in anticipation of this event. http://www.thehope.org/futmyth.htm REALIZING THE HEAVENLY JERUSALEM Appendix "C" Future Mythology http://www.thehope.org/TEKENLIT.htm Constructing the Technology of Enlightenment Using light technology to nurture "Human Enlightenment" The optimal direction of High-Or Ltd Y.I. HayutMa'n, Cyber Architect. The Academy of Jerusalem and High-Or Inc. The Temple being rebuilt for this. We know that Yair Davidi in Israel has located the 12 tribes now from all over. Hurtak writes in the Keys of Enoch, referring to the Kabballa constantly as his guide, that the 12 tribes will be taken through time portals to other constellations to create another genesis. Hurtak hints he is Jacob. So maybe he thinks he is regathering his 'descendents' and has some divine right to do so. yea right...We must bear in mind that Dr Puharich [who was Hurtak's boss at Ossining] wrote a book about Sacred Mushrooms and is an expert on hallucinogenic plants.Hurtak dosen't say by what means he had a trip across the universe. However he does say he went bodily, but which body? He said he was praying and a great being appeared and he sped upwards into the heavens. Considering he has invented a free energy device, one would think he'd describe the propulsion of the vehicle he travelled in. But this dosen't bear a mention. His DNA analysis of the 'chosen ones' is rather lengthy. He is very explicit in some parts of the book esp if it concerns science, but when it comes to describing the culling of the the lower races, he makes Nostrodamus sounds clear. I have scanned 11 chapters of Intro to the Keys of Enoch. He dosen't have about the mass genocide in the intro book.The Day of Declaration talks of when the Reappearance of the [ET] Masters of Wisdom is supposedly coming, when somehow the earth gets zapped into the 4th dimension and all those who don't become a body of Light will be 'recycled'. In other words get killed, be terminated. He says to look at the positive side of death. He mentions this several times throughout the book. The ETs he says will be picking up those, with what sounds like implants .[he calls them vibratory Light crystals of the Christ blood encoded upon the doorposts of the body temple of Gematria.The sign of YHWH's name will be upon their 3rd eye and they will be taken from the fields after a scanner will probe the face of the earth and locate the chosen ones and they will go to the vehicles] The implants are up the nose in some cases and I have seen a post saying the implanted are to be taken away for repopulation of other planets. Dr Bruce Maccabbee said Ashtar told him this personally [by someone channeling him to answer questions Maccabbee was asking Ashtar]. It does say in the Bible that 2 will be in the field and one will be taken. Though what that means is debatable. Hurtak could be be applying this to the CIA military abductees, who have been genetically catalogued. As the Mormons have been mentioned positively by Hurtak as having the angel Moroni as the correct teacher, maybe they use the ancestry records for the abductions. The Mormons are apparently routinely recruited as CIA agents. Hurtak says the Mormons are the Living Tribe of Joseph. I have some articles which show the research done by Hurtak's former boss Andrija Puharich, who did research for the CIA into mind control, and what wavelengths affect the human consciousness. One ET channelled by a 'top world renowned scientist' in the early 70's found out that the ionosphere reflects the human brain waves. The name wasn't given, but I will post the Et dialogue. However Puharich was contacting Ets at that time for scientific info about consciousness. ?? HAARP is destroying the ionosphere and magnetosphere and I have a post about this which states that this is what was created at Montauk to be employed for mind control. They are busily destroying 'our reality' and changing it to another one. I have about 5/6posts which link the whole scheme together with the changing of our DNA by HAARP/The Second Coming and the destruction of this 3D reality that we now exist in to be replaced by one which Hurtak's Ets have created for us. One in which the Ets he has with him from Sirius, are claiming to
[CTRL] Fw::'Sit down or I'll kill you' (BBC Minitoring 00.04.03)
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- -Original Message- From: ddj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 10:21 AM Subject: SN126:'Sit down or I'll kill you' (BBC Minitoring 00.04.03) http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/monitoring/media_reports/newsid_7000 0 0/75.stm Monday, 3 April, 2000, 17:10 GMT 18:10 UK === 'Sit down or I'll kill you' === http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/70/images/_75_house300.jpg Krajisnik's father sits by his home as a policeman stands guard Members of Momcilo Krajisnik's family have given a dramatic description of the dawn raid in which the senior Bosnian Serb official was arrested by Nato troops. They gave this account of the incident to Bosnian Serb television. -- One son told the television station: "There was an explosion around 0330 (0130 GMT). I woke up and saw members of S-For in my room. [Quote: An S-For soldier pointed to his rifle and shouted: 'Sit down or I'll kill you',Momcilo Krajisnik's father ] "They demanded to see if I had any weapons. They searched me and my brother. They spoke English and asked for our names. Then they asked us to put our hands forward, and they tied me and my brother up ...", he said. "While one of the S-For members tied us up, others were searching the house. They searched everywhere, they took everything out. They took our two computers," the son added. Father's account Mr Krajisnik's father Stretko, 81, said there had been no need for S-For troops to blow open the front door. http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/70/images/_75_father150.jpg Sretko Krajisnik opens the destroyed door of his home "If they had rung the bell, I would have opened the door to them. But they threw the bomb, you can see what happened. "I started to go, and the S-For soldier grabbed me and said: 'Back off.' There is no need to grab me like that, I said. "Then they put me in the kitchen and told me and grandmother to sit down. Unfortunately, I cannot sit down... A soldier pointed to his rifle and shouted: 'Sit down or I'll kill you.' Then I sat down. "This is what happened. God help us. All this lasted five or 10 minutes. There were a dozen of them, running up and down. The house was full," Mr Krajisnik's father said. 'Brutal' arrest --- Bosnian Serb politicians also condemned the arrest. Svetozar Mihajlovic, a former co-chairman of the Bosnian Council of Ministers and vice-president of the Serb National Alliance, described the raid as "brutal". Mihajlovic said the arrest "confirmed The Hague tribunal's policy of double standards towards war crimes suspects in Bosnia-Herzegovina". "Obviously, in its work, The Hague tribunal accepts the views of certain Bosnian Muslim wartime leaders who see all Serbs as suspects; this is unacceptable," he said. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Libelous ISP
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Careful what you say on the 'phone ... if someone gets an earful of any disparaging remarks, the telecom company might have to accept damages. There go the rates!!! AER ~ From www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : Britain British Internet libel case threatens free speech internationally By Mike Ingram 4 April 2000 Back to screen version In an out-of-court libel settlement, Demon Internet, one of Britain's oldest independent Internet service providers, has effectively accepted responsibility for all material hosted on their servers. The case has major implications for free speech on the Internet in Britain and beyond. The libel case was brought by physicist Laurence Godfrey, who claimed he had been defamed in two anonymous postings in discussion forums hosted by Demon. The libel case began in January 1998, when Godfrey served a writ on Demon demanding the removal of a message posted in the newsgroup soc.culture.thai a year earlier. Four days before the case was due to come to court, Demon agreed to pay Godfrey £15,000 damages and his legal costs, estimated at £230,000. Demon will face similar costs itself, bringing the total to nearly half a million pounds. In earlier hearings Demon argued that they were not the publishers of the material, and were not responsible for the posting in the same way a newspaper would be responsible for an article. The court ruled out this defence in March last year. Justice Moreland said the company had no protection under section 1 of the 1996 Defamation Act, which enables a provider to avoid liability if it can prove innocent dissemination. The judge ruled that because Demon had refused to remove the postings, it was, in effect, the publisher. After initially stating that they would fight the ruling, Demon's owners Thus plc. opted to settle out of court. In front of Justice Eady, the company apologised for failing to remove the postings at the time Godfrey had protested. Godfrey has also sued several other Internet service providers and online publications. His previous cases include settlements against New Zealand TeleCom, the Melbourne PC users group, and the online edition of Canada's Toronto Star. In October 1998 he filed suit against the University of Minnesota, Minneapolis ISP StarNet, and Kritchai Quanchairut, a former University of Minnesota student. Demon argued that since they did not create the postings, the items were not theirs to remove. As they were not the originators of the content, they could neither verify nor refute its accuracy. The company said it would press the government for recognition that Internet service providers should not be liable for the millions of items carried on the Internet every day. But that is precisely what has been established in this case. Nick Braithwaite, Godfrey's lawyer, said the case had established a firm precedent that Internet service providers can be publishers in English libel law. It has also established that under UK law an Internet service provider is responsible for the material carried on its sites, regardless of the country of origin. In the United States, ISPs are considered to be no more liable for the messages posted on them than the post office would be for the contents of letters it delivers. But US-based ISPs are still threatened by this decision, according to London media lawyer Mark Stephens. He told the New York Times that service providers everywhere would be vulnerable to threats from the rich and litigious. ISPs, wherever they're located in the world and whether or not they're protected by the free speech guarantees of the Bill of Rights in America could be dealt with harshly, robustly and expensively in the British courts, he said. He described the situation created by the settlement as open season on ISPs: This exposes Internet companies to the ability on the part of the rich and powerful to censor them. If you're rich and powerful, you could sue the Internet company to take something off the Internet edition of an American newspaper, because you know they're going to censor the newspaper even if the newspaper doesn't censor itself. If ISPs are held liable for the content they carry on their servers, they will be under tremendous pressure to become the censors of public opinion. As a result of the Godfrey case, Demon Internet now routinely removes material that it considers unsuitable or defamatory, according to a company spokeswoman. Copyright 1998-2000 World Socialist Web Site All rights reserved AER ~~~ Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it,
[CTRL] [NA] More on Phony Polls: Larry Nichols Blows Whistle on NBC
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- From: "Jim Condit Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 Subj: [NA] More on Phony Polls: Larry Nichols Blows Whistle on NBC http://www.networkamerica.org "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." -- Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin (Listen anytime to Votefraud vs Honest Elections "crash course" radio show over the internet at www.sightings.com in the archives, April 3rd, 2000 show, Jeff Rense host, Jim Condit Jr. guest) April 4, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire More on Phony Polls: Larry Nichols Blows Whistle on NBC (Announcement to new readers: See at the end of this message if you want to go to topica.com and read the archived copies of the Network America e-wires since Jan 10, 2000. Also, your writer will appear on "Heads up America" with Ken Bagwell at 880 AM WTZY, a North Carolina radio station, on Tuesday, April 10th, from 10 AM to noon EST. You will also notice that we have added to the header of this message where anyone can go on the internet to hear the 3 hour radio show we did about votefraud on "Sightings" last night, with Jeff Rense. This makes an audio "crash course" available to the whole world at all times. We thank Jeff Rense for his professional, intelligent, and informed handling of the subject matter, and for his making this radio show available to the world on his website.) On to today's e-wire Former Arkansas State Trooper Larry Nichols, -- vocal critic of the real Bill Clinton, whom he guarded and transported during Clinton's Arkansas days as Governor, -- relayed to this writer a first hand story about Tim Russert, NBC, and polls during the Clinton impeachment proceedings. Through a fortuitous mix up, both Larry Nichols and I were scheduled for the same day on the Ernie Sanders show, which airs in Cleveland, Ohio. Rather than reschedule either of us, Ernie Sanders put us both on the air. After the show and off the air, Mr. Nichols kindly gave me his home phone number, and I called him that night to discuss computerized votefraud and related issues. Mr. Nichols told me that during the Clinton impeachment hearings he was in fairly regular touch with Tim Russert, the host of NBC's Meet the Press Sunday morning interview show. In fact, Russert would sometimes call Nichols at home. During the impeachment process, Tim Russert told Nichols that NBC's internal tracking polls showed that 80% of the people wanted Clinton removed from office. A few weeks later Nichols was watching Meet the Press when Russert threw up the figures we all heard and saw incessantly: that 70% of the people wanted Clinton to stay in office The next time Nichols was called by Russert, he asked him about the discrepancy, and what follows is a paraphrase of what Larry Nichols told me about that conversation: Nichols: "You lying son of a gun, you told me that your tracking polls showed 80% of the people wanted Clinton out of office -- then you tell the public that 70% of the people want him to stay. Russert: Well, those tracking polls are for our internal use only, we can't release those to for public consumption. The polls we released were the ones we paid for outside pollsters to do. Those are the ones we release. (End of paraphrase of the Nichols-Russert conversation as related by Larry Nichols.) How were the tracking polls done? How were the polls NBC released done? What questions were asked? Who was called? How many polls were taken before they released the one that conveyed the information the Big TV networks wanted the public to hear? Or, did NBC and the others just lie, using the polls they aid for as a cover for the phony story they released? No one in the public arena knows, and no one (except us and a few others) seems to care. Yet candidates, leaders, public office holders, and factions from all across the political spectrum seemingly accept these Big TV network polls as if they are being brought down and delivered by an angel from heaven. And now we're going to let these info-devils at the Big TV Networks tell us which candidates can be in the Presidential Debates -- based on their mysterious polls??? Are we living in an insane asylum, or what? Nichols' story fits with other information on the subject. MIT professor Naom Chomsky said on C-Span a few years ago that there were two sets of polls: one to tell the Ruling Elite behind the Big TV networks what the people really think so they can figure out how to maneuver and manipulate public opinion in the direction they want it to go; and a second set of warped polls that are released to the public for the very purpose of deceiving the people on what the public as a body is really thinking. Our March 27, 2000 e-wire deals with a lengthy report on the manipulation of polls by Jack Koenig and his
[CTRL] Cavitations Root Canals - warning
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- - BOB'S DENTAL AWARENESS PAGE http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/Rjj5019/index.html OCCURRENCE OF CAVITATIONS - CAVITAT Bob Jones, the inventor of the CAVITAT (an ultrasound insturment designed to detect and image cavitations) found cavitations of various sizes and severity in approximately 94% of several thousand wisdom teeth sites scanned. He also found cavitations under or located near 100% of root canal teeth scanned in both males and females of various ages from several different geographic areas of the United States. Note: Cavitations (jaw infections) can be entirely painless, or they can cause referred pain elsewhere in the body, such as in the lower back. Cavitations often cause sub-acute endocarditis (heart infections) which can flare up and kill. - Cavitations Root Canals http://www.holisticmed.com/dental/root.html Cavitations - HISTORY and OVERVIEW http://www.mcilwain.com/page11.html NICO and Chronic Jaw Pain Forum http://www0.delphi.com/nicoandaps/index.html Bio-Compatible Dentistry http://www.zip.com.au/%7Ergammal/index.html - http://www.holisticmed.com/dental/cavitation1.html Journal of Advancement in Medicine Volume 9, Number 4, Winter 1996 Routine Dental Extractions Routinely Produce Cavitations Thomas E. Levy, MD, FACC, and Hal A. Huggins, DDS, MS ABSTRACT: Cavitations (Cvs) are persistent holes found at the extraction sites of permanent teeth after apparent healing has taken place. Current dental literature considers this common phenomenon to be rare. In the scientific literature, Cvs have a plethora of synonyms. They have been variably labeled as Ratner, Roberts, or trigger point bone cavities, interference fields, neuralgia-inducing cavitational osteonecrosis (NICO), and alveolar cavitational osteopathosis. Evidence suggests that the incidence of Cvs is presently grossly underestimated. Therefore, we reviewed the charts of 112 randomly chosen patients treated at the Huggins Diagnostic Center (HDC) from 1991 through 1995 to determine the incidence of Cvs in old extraction sites. We believe this problem to be important to the general health of patients who are being treated for a wide range of diseases where such a dental condition may be the ultimate cause or a significant contributing factor. This manuscript is clearly one written for dental surgeons. It describes, however, a little known phenomenon that is extremely important in the general ill health of many patients with a number of different diseases that are not usually associated with dental problems. Since there is more and more need for health professionals to collaborate in their disciplines, the work reported here should be valuable to physicians. - Laura Lee Interview with George Meinig, DDS Dr. M. LaMarche Cavitations Root Canals http://www.tldp.com/issue/157-8/157rootc.htm Cavitations: More Than Just Another Hole in Your Head http://www.gerson.org/healing/articles/nl_cavitations.htm Root Canal Cover-Up - Are your teeth killing you? http://www.gerson.org/healing/articles/nl_rootcan.html - BOOKS: Elements of Danger: Protect Yourself Against the Hazards of Modern Dentistry, by Morton, Dr Morton Walker Paperback - 304 pages (November 1999) Hampton Roads Pub Co; ISBN: 1571741461 Uninformed Consent : The Hidden Dangers in Dental Care by Hal A. Huggins, DDS and Thomas E. Levy, MD Paperback - 280 pages (February 1999) Hampton Roads Pub Co; ISBN: 1571741178 Fraud Root Canals by S. Hale Shakman Spiral-bound - 130 pages (March 7, 1998) Institute Of Science; ISBN: 1892506017 Root Canal Cover-up Exposed by George E. Meinig, DDS Bion Publishing, Ojai, California, 1993, ISBN 0-945196-14-8, or: Price Pottenger Nutrition, 1994; ISBN: 0945196199 . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] Audio-Video Signals Skin Transmitter
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- excerpt from: http://kftt.karelia.ru:8101/~alexk/innovations/skin-transmitter.html new device: Audio-Video Signals Skin Transmitter. It leads from our model that modulation of weak IR laser beam with resonant wave number around: 1200 (1/cm), directed to acupuncture points of skin by audio and/or video signals should induce corresponding modulation of MTs supercatastrophe in these points. We believe that propagation of nerve signals via axons to brain centers, responsible for next stage of information processing, can induce the perception of video and audio signals even of blind and deaf people. Using the system of flexible wave-guides linking the IR laser beam source and set of sensitive (acupuncture) skin-points the effectiveness of Audio/Video signals skin transmitter can be enhanced. The same approach could be used also for synchronization of neuronal activity, leading to stimulation of different kind of psi-activity. Alex Kaivarainen Home Page http://kftt.karelia.ru:8101/~alexk/ . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] US troops clash with Kosovo Serbs
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- === The Committee for National Solidarity Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU -Original Message- Siem News [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Date: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 12:25 AM Subject: SN152:US troops clash with Kosovo Serbs Tuesday, 4 April, 2000, 21:47 GMT 22:47 UK US troops clash with Kosovo Serbs US troops patrol the southern sector of Kosovo At least 27 people have been injured in clashes between Serbs and Nato peacekeepers in Kosovo. The American military said 11 of their peacekeeping troops, as well as a Polish soldier and an interpreter, were hurt in a confrontation with local Serbs. Fourteen Serbs were also reported injured, including 10 who were struck by rubber bullets fired in an attempt to break up the fracas. The incident began around midday on Tuesday when a Serb was arrested during a routine search for illegal weapons possession. US military sources said K-For troops had seized two hand grenades in the house of a Serb in the village of Sevce, about 60km (40 miles) south of Pristina, near the Macedonian border. About 150 Serbs surrounded the house and refused to allow the troops to leave. Polish soldiers then set up a roadblock to prevent some 300 angry Serbs from reaching the scene. The arrested man was taken to Camp Bondsteel, the main US base in Kosovo, but later taken back to the roadblock in an attempt to ease the tension. The crowds were told that he would be released in 48 hours under normal procedures. The independent Yugoslav news agency Beta said that several women attempted to wrest the man from the soldiers. The peacekeepers released attack dogs to try to disperse the crowd, and the villagers responded with clubs and dogs of their own. US military sources said the area was calm by late Tuesday evening. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid%5F701000/701931.stm Secretary General Mrs. Jela Jovanovic Art historian === A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] American Depravity by William Norman Grigg
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- The shame of it all is we are expected to foot the bill for whatever comes into the theatres. An interesting study of Hollyweird and its gaggle of silly geese can be seen on, paradoxically enough, the E! channel, most notably either via its Scandals or its True Hollywood Story series. There's an article somewhere dealing with whether or not the big 'stars' are worth the $$$ paid to them for their protrayal of life as we (are told we should) know it. My disenchantment with Hollyweird came about after learning that Jim Carrey makes about $20M a flick, for being a 'Pet Detective', no less. This is not to forget Bruce Willis and Mel Gibson making mega$$$ for their contributions to the violence and mayhem on the (tarnished) silver screen. The latest from Gibson in the video stores is *Payback* which is well done (everyone gets paid back) but his one-man (after the fashion of "Rambo") war against some gangsters has something lacking ... and his character only wants $70K out of it, $70K we are supposed to believe he deserves but an amount he stole to begin with, nevertheless. And I thought *Taxi Driver* was violent a quarter century ago (couldn't watch some scenes). And, so: we pay the theatres who pay the distributors who pay the whoevers on up the line with $$$ feeding the imaginations of the stars and directors and producers and whoevers in search of the next obscenity. I think the most egregious example of this scam was *Saving Private Ryan* (which was essentially a remake of the *Longest Day* with an old *Combat* (TV show) script as the pretext for the story). And for this Spielberg and Hanks got some award from the War Department. Shows how easily Gen X is duped and entertained by remakes of reruns. And the ending, when Ryan asks if he was worth it; to the studios, all those grave markers must have looked like the $$$ amount placards in an old cash register. Why didn't Ryan ask the surviving family members of all who (supposedly) lost their lives tracking him down? And just what did Ryan do in the intervening years in justification for the orgy of blood and guts that Spielberg and Hanks spilled all over the place? AER Subject: [CTRL] American Depravity by William Norman Grigg To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- American Depravity by William Norman Grigg -- Released last year to rave reviews, the movie 'American Beauty' is nothing more than propaganda for the latest American depravity. -- Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] An Army of Gun Lies
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! An Army of Gun Lies How the other side plays. By Dave Kopel Mr. Kopel is research director of the Independence Institute, a free-market think tank in Colorado. Antigun advocates have always faced an uphill battle in this country. Americans have, to begin with, a constitutional right to gun ownership. Today, half of American households exercise this right, owning a total of about 250 million guns; and over 99 percent of those households do so in a responsible manner. To fight for major restrictions on an item that plays such a valued part in the lives of so many people looks like a nearly impossible task. So if youâre really committed to the effort, and you want to win, what do you do? Simple: You lie. A full listing of the lies told by the antigun lobby could fill a book. A short list of the more popular ones would have to begin with the canard about the number of children killed by firearms. We are told repeatedly that 13, or 15, or 17 children every day are killed by guns. This factoid is used to conjure up pictures of dozens of little kids dying in gun accidents every week. In truth, the number of fatal gun accidents is at its lowest level since 1903, when statistics started being kept. Thatâs right: Not only is the per capita accident rate at a record low, so is the actual number of accidentsâeven though the number of people and the number of guns are both much larger than in 1903. The assertions about âX children per dayâ are based on counting older teenagers, or even people in their early twenties, as âchildren.â The claims are true only if you count a 19-year-old drug dealer who is shot by a competitor, or an 18-year-old armed robber who is shot by a policeman, as âa child killed by a gun.â As for actual children (14 years and under), the daily death rate is 2.6. For children ten and under, itâs 0.4 per dayâfar lower than the number of children who are killed by automobiles, drowning, or many other causes. If the statistic about child gun deaths is the most notorious lie, one of the most frequent has to do with gun shows. All of the antigun groups repeat, incessantly, the phrase âgun-show loophole.â As a result, much of the public believes that gun shows are special zones exempt from ordinary gun laws. Handgun Control, Inc., the major antigun group, has an affiliate in Colorado that claims that the âvast majorityâ of guns used in crimes come from gun shows, while the Violence Policy Center calls gun shows âTupperware parties for criminals.â This is all an audacious lie. First of all, the laws at gun shows are exactly the same as they are everywhere else. If a person is âengaged in the businessâ (as the law puts it) of selling firearms, then he must fill out a government registration form on every buyer, and get FBI permission (through the National Instant Check System) for every saleâregardless of whether the sale takes place at his gun store, at an office in his home, or at a gun show. Those who are not gun dealers by profession, but happen to be selling a gun, are not required to follow this procedure. To imply that gun dealers can go to an event called a âgun showâ and thus avoid the law is absolutely false. Also false is the charge about Tupperware parties for criminals. According to a National Institute of Justice study released in December 1997, only 2 percent of guns used in crimes come from gun shows. The gun-show charge has great currency in the media, but it is not very important in itself. How about the more serious charge that guns are basically dangerous to society? Public-health experts and gun-control lobbyists will tell you that most murders, including those involving guns, take place among acquaintances and are perpetrated by ordinary people; these facts supposedly indicate that ordinary people are too hot-tempered to be allowed to have guns. The facts tell a different story: 75 percent of murderers have adult criminal records. As for the rest, a large number either have criminal convictions as juveniles or are still teenagers when they commit the murder; laws dealing with access to juvenile-crime records prevent full access to their rap sheets. Furthermore, the category of âacquaintanceâ murders is misleading. It includes drug buyers who kill a drug dealer to steal his stash, and thugs who assault each other in barroom brawls. Thereâs also a sad irony here. Domestic murders are almost always preceded by many incidents of violent abuse. If a domestic-violence victim flees the home, and her ex- husband tracks her down and tries to rape her, and she shoots him, the killing will be labeled a âtragic domestic homicide that was caused by a gun,â rather than what it legally is: justifiable use of deadly force against a felon. The famous factoid that a gun in the home is 43 times
Re: [CTRL] Libelous ISP
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I got 3 obscene, libelous posts about me deleted from a Yahoo club message board, by Yahoo after the club founder refused. But Yahoo has in their Terms of Service clauses about both obscenity and libel. I haven't read Demon's terms of service. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Blackhawks for Chinese army
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Blackhawks for Chinese army PLA pressed Chung for military exports from Clinton -- -- By Charles Smith © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com In a WorldNetDaily exclusive interview, Chinagate figure Johnny Chung revealed for the first time that the Chinese army sought his help to obtain parts for Blackhawk helicopters. "It is like throwing a stone to open the gate," commented Chung during an interview in Los Angeles. "The Chinese army knew I had access. They wanted me to throw the stone." "At one point in 1995, one of the (Chinese) businessmen approached me and asked, 'Would you ask your government to allow us to buy helicopter parts?'" said Chung. Johnny Chung: "It was like throwing a stone to open the gate." Photo by Brenda Smith. "Now, I am a facsimile broadcasting service businessman. I told him that I was not in the helicopter business. I told him that I was not interested in helicopters. Why should I help?" "He said, 'It's important,'" noted Chung. "'We bought these helicopters from your country years ago. Blackhawk helicopters. The helicopters are not military. They are used as rescue equipment. Now out of the 20 or 30 helicopters, we can only use two or three because of a lack of spare parts.'" "I told him I am not an arms dealer, but he persisted. He asked again, 'Can you ask your government to do that?' I told him again, no. That is not my specialty. I know nothing about military equipment. I am in the fax business." "That was 1995 or early 1996," said Chung. A former Democratic fund-raiser who became involved with funneling Chinese military money to the Clinton administration, Chung subsequently pleaded guilty and cooperated fully with the FBI in its Chinagate investigation. Chung's personal account is not the only data available on the China/Blackhawk dealings. After being turned down by Chung, the Chinese military succeeded in obtaining the Blackhawk parts through other means. Allegedly, former Reagan official Alexander Haig lobbied the White House on China's behalf to acquire the Blackhawk parts. In 1997, the Clinton administration granted the Chinese army permission to buy the spare helicopter parts. U.S. Army UH-60 Blackhawk helicopter at work in Kosovo. According to the Rand Corporation, the Chinese army obtained Blackhawk advanced communications equipment illegally "under the guise of non-restricted merchandise." U.S. Army photo. The Chinese army reportedly uses the Blackhawk helicopters for search and rescue operations. However, the UH-60 helicopter also has a long history of military service and could play a critical role in any People's Liberation Army effort to invade Taiwan. Blackhawk helicopters served the U.S. forces in Kosovo and in the desert war with Iraq in airborne assaults on enemy positions. Aviation Week Space Technology noted that defense evaluations of the Chinese army helicopter force show that the Asian superpower is critically short of the vertical airlift needed for an invasion of Taiwan. In contrast, the Indian army alone has more helicopters. U.S. intelligence sources also confirmed that Russia has offered to lease helicopters to China for the invasion of Taiwan. The Chinese military actions appear to be a major long-term effort to acquire U.S. helicopter technology. According to a 1997 Rand report, Chinese arms manufacturer Poly Technologies illegally sought U.S. exports of Blackhawk parts. The Rand report noted that one such subsidiary of Poly Tech, a firm called "PTK International," was also involved in espionage. "Dynasty handled all incoming and outgoing money for Poly, including management of all Poly investments in the U.S., and coordinated procurement of defense-related materials with PTK and U.S. firms," noted the 1997 Rand report. "Allegedly, Dynasty illegally shipped some of these materials, including advanced radar systems, minicomputers, and advanced communications equipment for use in the PLA UH-60 Blackhawk helicopters, to China under the guise of non-restricted merchandise." Federal Judge Robert Payne forced the Commerce Department to release the Rand Corporation report in 1998. The report also contains detailed information about Poly Technologies and its origin. "Poly Technologies, Ltd., was founded in 1984, ostensibly as a subsidiary of CITIC (China International Trust and Investment Corporation), although it was later exposed to be the primary commercial arm of the PLA General Staff Department's Equipment Sub-Department. Throughout the 1980s, Poly sold hundreds of millions of dollars of largely surplus arms around the world, exporting to customers in Thailand, Burma, Iran, Pakistan, and the United States," states the Rand report. The connections to Poly Technologies also lead directly to President Clinton. In 1996, Poly
[CTRL] AF News 5 Apr 00
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! 000519. Air Force selects line, non-line officers for promotion to major RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE, Texas (AFPN) -- The CY00A Major Central Selection Board for Line, Judge Advocate General, Chaplain, the Medical Service, Biomedical Sciences and Nurse Corps selected 2,349 captains for promotion to major. The selection board convened at the Air Force Personnel Center here Jan. 24 through Feb. 4. The list of promoted officers is posted on the Air Force Personnel Center's World Wide Web home page at www.afpc.randolph.af.mil. Selection statistics in-the-promotion zone for major: -- 1,943 Line captains selected from 2,195 considered for an 88.5 percent rate -- 43 JAG captains selected from 52 considered for an 82.7 percent rate -- 14 Chaplain captains selected from 16 considered for an 87.5 percent rate -- 39 MSC captains selected from 46 considered for an 84.8 percent rate -- 108 BSC captains selected from 122 considered for an 88.5 percent rate -- 149 NC captains selected from 199 considered for a 74.9 percent rate Selection statistics above-the-promotion zone for major: -- 33 Line captains selected from 362 considered for a 9.1 percent rate -- 4 JAG captains selected from 7 considered for a 57.1 percent rate -- 0 Chaplain captains selected from 6 considered for a 0.0 percent rate -- 3 MSC captains were selected from 9 considered for a 33.3 percent rate -- 2 BSC captains were selected from 13 considered for a 15.4 percent rate -- 11 NC captains were selected from 33 considered for a 33.3 percent rate Local military personnel flights have more information. (Courtesy of AFPC News Service) 000518. USAFE Public Affairs tapped as best in the Air Force RAMSTEIN AIR BASE, Germany (AFPN) -- U.S. Air Forces in Europe was selected March 30 as having the best major command public affairs program in the Air Force. The Brig. Gen. Harry J. Dalton Award for Public Affairs Excellence was presented to USAFE during the annual worldwide Public Affairs Professional Development Seminar in Leesburg, Va. "This command is the busiest command in the Air Force," said Col. Doug McCoy, USAFE director of public affairs. "We have small teams of PA professionals at the headquarters and the wings who make a huge impact every day telling the USAFE and the Air Force story. I'm pleased that the Air Force recognized the fantastic work they've accomplished and I'm very proud of them all." That work included supporting Operation Allied Force and telling the Air Force side of 1999's biggest international story. During the war in Kosovo, PA people played host to more than 3,000 media representatives from more than 30 countries. Twenty-five public affairs specialists deployed to 17 sites during the war to set up bare-base operations or augment offices at main operating bases. They wrote 200 stories and released more than 2,500 photos on the role of the Air Force and its people during the war. Many of those photos subsequently appeared in Air Force Print News, USA Today, Reuters and Associated Press. Individual accomplishments contributed to USAFE winning the Dalton award and several USAFE people and programs were recognized at the Air Force level. (Courtesy of USAFE News Service) 000521. Service members can directly request INS updates RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE, Texas (AFPN) -- Service members requesting a status update on their applications to the Immigration and Naturalization Service can now directly call the INS National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283. The hours of operation are 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. CST in the United States, 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. local in Alaska, 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. local in Hawaii, and 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. local in Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands. Status requests will not be accepted if the applicant filed within the past year and there is no urgency to expedite, or if there has been some action taken by INS within the past six months, such as finger-print notice, or request for additional evidence, said Air Force Personnel Center officials. If a status request is made through the military personnel flight to HQ AFPC/DPSFM, the following information must be provided on each request: *Applicant's name *Alien number *Date Form N-400 was filed *Applicant's current address *Date and type of last INS activity *Special urgency reason The INS has also instituted a national phone-in change of address service at the same 1-800 number for all naturalization applicants who have moved. By giving the new address over the phone, the Naturalization tracking system will be electronically updated with the applicant's new address information and he or she will receive a confirmation letter from the INS. For more information, contact your local military personnel flight. (Courtesy of AFPC News Service) 000520. Holloman activates German flying training center by
[CTRL] President Clinton Found in Criminal Violation of Privacy Act
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! President Clinton Found in Criminal Violation of Privacy Act White House Response: We're Above The Law -- -- By MARVIN LEE -- -- The White House claim of attorney-client privilege -- used to protect the President from numerous criminal investigations -- seriously backfired in court last week. For there is a crime-fraud exception to the attorney-client privilege. Communications between an attorney (the White House Counsel's Office) and his client (The President) cannot be protected under the privilege if they have been in furtherance of a crime. The crime, said Judicial Watch in its Filegate lawsuit against the White House and the FBI, was the release of Kathleen Willey's letter by the President to discredit her after she appeared on "60 minutes." Judge Royce Lamberth agreed: "Thus, the plaintiffs have established that the President had the requisite intent for committing a criminal violation of the Privacy Act." And so Judge Lamberth ordered the White House to release within 20 days the information it has until now claimed privileged: 1. Any and all knowledge these [White House] officials have, including any meetings held or other communications made, about the obtaining of the FBI files of former White House Travel Office employees Billy Ray Dale, John Dreylinger, Barney Brasseux, Ralph Maughan, Robert Van Eimerren, and John McSweeney. 2. Any and all knowledge these officials have, including any meetings held or other communications made, about the release or use of any documents between Kathleen Willey and President Clinton or his aides, or documents relating to telephone calls or visits between Willey and the President or his aides. 3. All meetings held or other communications made, including all communications made to the media, related to the use or obtaining of FBI background investigation files, summary reports, or raw data on persons included on the FBI files list. 4. Any and all communications these officials have had relating to release or use of information from Linda Tripp's Department of Defense files. 5. Any and all communications and/or meetings these officials have had with Cody Shearer. The White House response was to say that it was above the law. It claimed that "the White House Office is not subject to the Privacy Act," and announced its intention to appeal Judge Lamberth's decision. **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rep. Blunt - America's Energy Policy
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Rep. Blunt - America's Energy Policy Rep. Blunt - America's Energy Policy "We needed to have an Energy Policy House of Representatives - March 30, 2000 The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a previous order of the House, the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Blunt) is recognized for 5 minutes. Mr. BLUNT. Mr. Speaker, I was amazed at the end of the business day today when there was a discussion on the floor as to whether or not the failure to extend the law that authorizes the strategic oil reserve, and the concerns that many Members have about the Energy Department, somehow means that the Congress of the United States is responsible for the failure to have an energy policy for the last 7 years. It is exactly the kind of wrongheaded thinking that has allowed us to lull ourselves as a Nation into where we are today with gasoline prices, with heating oil prices. Certainly nobody is going to release the strategic oil reserve if that authorization is not extended for a few days. I think there is a very legitimate question as to who should control the strategic oil reserve. Should it be the Department of Energy or should it be the Department of Defense? What is the purpose of a strategic oil reserve? Is it militarily strategic, or is it strategic in some other way? In fact, what has happened for the last 7 years is that on all three fronts that we needed to have an energy policy, we have not had an effective energy policy. We have not dealt with the oil-producing nations that we have come to rely too much on for oil and gasoline. We have done everything we could to discourage domestic production. We have not done anything to encourage alternative sources of energy, and in fact, the Secretary of Energy on February 16 said that we were caught napping at the Department of Energy. The administration really did not expect to see these oil prices go up. That is the same Department of Energy that there were Members on this floor just a few minutes ago saying should unquestionably be given an extended ability to manage the energy policy of the United States. It is part of the same administration that, for 7 years, has really managed to perform the governmental hat trick of looking at the three areas that we ought to be thinking about for more energy independence and doing everything possible to insure that we would have more energy dependence. We saw the Secretary of Energy in the last few days and weeks going to those oil-producing nations that in the past have been our dependable allies, certainly we have been their dependable ally, and acting as if it was a huge deal to have a small concession of increased production from those countries. Whenever those countries, some of those countries, came to us and said, we would like young American men and women to come over and defend our country, we did not have the response that, well, we will see if we can do a little something, and we will do it, and we will let you know when it might happen. It will be out there sometime. That was not our response. Now to assume that that is an acceptable response, something is wrong. Either something is wrong with our relationship with those countries, or something has been wrong in maintaining that relationship. In terms of alternative sources, the Secretary of Energy just a couple of Sundays ago said maybe the answer is wind power. Well, the answer may not be wind power, the answer may be brain power. The answer may be looking at what we can do to ensure that we are not caught in this same situation 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 years from now, to become increasingly dependent on foreign oil, to do nothing to encourage alternative energy sources in this country, to do everything to discourage domestic supply. To do everything to really put the internal combustion engine at risk without coming up with any alternatives is an economic travesty. Our economy has some jeopardy right now because of a failure of policy. For our colleagues to stand up here and say that the Department of Energy needs to be congratulated for what they have done in energy, or the Department of Energy needs to be extended into the future without any question, or that if this Congress questions the Department of Energy, somehow the Congress becomes automatically responsible for the failures of that department and this administration for the last 7 years in this area, does not really meet the test of credibility on this floor or in the country. I think we need to look very carefully at where we are, how we got here, and what the Department of Energy has had to do with those results that are likely to lead to $2 gas prices and significant challenges to our economy this summer. **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or
[CTRL] Rep. Metcalf-We Have No Business in Kosovo
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Rep. Metcalf-"We Have No Business in Kosovo" Rep. Metcalf-"We Have No Business in Kosovo" "We Need to Bring America Home OPPOSING CONTINUED U.S. INVOLVEMENT IN THE BALKAN CONFLICT (House of Representatives - March 30, 2000) The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a previous order of the House, the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Metcalf) is recognized for 5 minutes. Mr. METCALF. Mr. Speaker,we have no business in Kosovo. We have no overriding national interest there. We have heard much vaunted allegations of human rights violations leveled against the Serbian government. Unfortunately, once again, we come to find out that an administration determined to mire us in overseas turmoil has greatly exaggerated the situation to win over a skeptical public and stampede the Congress. In this case, we were told several months ago that as many as 100,000 Albanian Kosovars were brutally murdered. Now we are looking at a figure closer to 1,000. What of our continually expanded bombing that eventually included not only public transportation but medical facilities, nearly 100 schools, churches, and homes? What of the innocent deaths we inflicted with tax dollars of the citizens of the United States? What have we done here? What were the objectives of our President's most recent adventure? What are the results? We were told when we went into Kosovo that we went there to stop ethnic cleansing. It continues with a vengeance, this time with the acquiescence of our own forces. The KLA, not 2 years ago classified by our own State Department as a heroin-financed terrorist organization, soon to be vaunted by the Clinton administration as freedom fighters, now roams the countryside brutalizing innocents, not only Serbs but gypsies, Muslims, Slavs, and Albanians opposed to their thuggishness. Bishop Artemije of the Diocese of Kosovo stated one month ago before the Helsinki Commission, and I quote, `More than 80 Orthodox churches have been either completely destroyed or severely damaged since the end of the war. The ancient churches, many of which survived 500 years of Ottoman Moslem rule, could not survive 8 months of the internationally guaranteed peace. Regretfully, all this happens in the presence of KFOR, the NATO peacekeeping force in Kosovo, and the U.N.' Yes, we have cast our lot with the KLA and its affiliates, an organization dedicated to its own version of ethnic cleansing. Removal of all non-Albanians from a region that not only includes Kosovo, but also southern Serbia and Macedonia, with its Albanian minority. We were told we went into Kosovo to `stabilize the Balkans.' Initially, the ambiguity of our policy gave the green light to separatist movements around the region. Today, in both Bosnia and Kosovo, we are committed into the future as far as the eye can see. When I was able to cause a vote on the floor of the House on the incursion into Bosnia, a vote the administration did not want to take place, I stated on this floor, Mr. Speaker, that Mr. Clinton would not keep his promise to us. What was his promise? That he would send our American troops home from Bosnia by December 20, 1996. I ask, Mr. Speaker, what stability have we achieved in the Balkans? And at what price to this Nation? Can anyone share with this Congress a realistic exit strategy from this quagmire? In the Kosovo region, yesterday's Washington Post tells us that Kosovar militias still refuse to disarm and are now destabilizing southern Serbia. A new confrontation with Milosevic and a new refugee crisis is feared. And what will we do with a violent KLA we empowered when it turns its sights on Macedonia, which also has an Albanian population? I agree with Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison's assessment of our Balkan interventions recently published in the Financial Times. She said, `NATO has got to get off of this merry-go-round. It must acknowledge that imposing multicultural democracy at the point of a gun is not working.' Mr. Speaker, we were told we went into Kosovo to thwart the Serbian ruler there, Milosevic. What have we accomplished here? Milosevic is more firmly in place than ever; hard-liners in Serbia in a better place than ever before due entirely to our intervention; the bombing of civilians; the vilification of the Serbian people; and, the destruction of the Serbian culture under our occupation. We were told we went into Kosovo to ensure the credibility of NATO. But did we do this by violating the first section of the NATO charter by launching a war against a sovereign Nation that has committed no aggression against any of its neighbors? NATO's strength was that it was a shield, not a sword. Some skeptics say that NATO actions were one of justification, considering their original mission was to protect Europe from a Soviet Union that no longer exists. The costs of Kosovo? Displacement of
Re: [CTRL] American Depravity by William Norman Grigg
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- For years I have regarded the Academy Awards as Hollywood masturbating in a mirror, and giving "American Beauty" the Best Picture award only proves my point. My wife and I saw it last week, and for once we agreed on a film: this one is not simply perverse, it is perverted. It has absolutely no redeeming social value...it doesn't know whether it's a black comedy, a social commentary, a tragedy, or what, and just winds up being disgusting. - Original Message - From: Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 1:07 AM Subject: [CTRL] American Depravity by William Norman Grigg -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- American Depravity by William Norman Grigg -- Released last year to rave reviews, the movie 'American Beauty' is nothing more than propaganda for the latest American depravity. -- snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [BRIGADE] GOA Alert - Smith and Wesson
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Dear Brigade, "Although not widely reported, the Clinton Wesson agreement would regulate the sales of ALL FIREARMS SOLD by dealers carrying Smith Wesson products .. Dealers wishing to sell Smith Wesson guns would be REQUIRED to mandate government-approved safety courses for Glock purchasers. Dealers wishing to sell Smith Wesson guns would be REQUIRED to limit Beretta purchases to one gun at a time" Take a look at the list of Reps. that have signed Hostettler's letters below. All the Representatives listed have signed on to both letters. If your Rep. has signed the letters, thank him or her. If he or she has not signed the letters, ask them why not. Please contact them immediately!!! To call Capitol Hill toll-free, dial 1-888-449-3511 For the Cause, Linda PS Brigade, If you are not a member of Gun Owners of America click on over to their website - http://www.gunowners.org - and find out why GOA is considered the "only no-compromise gun lobby in Washington". Linda Muller - Proud Member of GOA!! - -Original Message- From: paul garfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 8:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Begin forwarded message -- From: Gun Owners of America [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: More Contacts To Congress Needed This Week Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:58:09 -0400 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last Call to Get Your Rep. to Sign the Hostettler letters -- Your work is helping to get Congressmen on board! Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org (Monday, April 3, 2000) -- Last week, GOA notified you about Rep. John Hostettler's fight to preserve the Second Amendment. He is leading the charge to stop the Clinton administration from imposing back door gun control upon a good portion of the gun industry through its recent deal with Smith Wesson. Hostettler's deadline is sometime this week. Thus, if you have not yet contacted your Representative, you only have a couple of days left. By the way, Rep. Hostettler has decided to get pro-gun language inserted in two budget subcommittees, and thus he is sending two letters -- one to the VA-HUD subcommittee and one to the Treasury subcommittees. ACTION: Take a look at the list of Reps. that have signed Hostettler's letters (two paragraphs below). All the Representatives listed have signed on to both letters. If your Rep. has signed the letters, thank him or her. If he or she has not signed the letters, ask them why not. Please contact them immediately!!! To call Capitol Hill toll-free, dial 1-888-449-3511. Additional contact info can be found on the GOA website. Members who had signed the letters by the close of business on Friday were the following: Chenoweth-Hage (ID), Coburn (OK), DeMint (SC), Doolittle (CA), Goode (VA), Hayworth (AZ), Largent (OK), Lewis (KY), McIntosh (IN), Paul (TX), Riley (AL), Rohrabacher (CA), Jim Ryun (KS), Sanford (SC), Souder (IN) and Stearns (FL). Please send (or phone in) the new message below to those Reps. who are not on this list. Pre-written message - Dear Representative: I noticed that you have yet to lift a finger in supporting Rep. John Hostettler's efforts to stop Clinton's back door attempt at gun control. Why is that? Rep. Hostettler is trying to get a very important amendment into both the Treasury and the VA-HUD budgets this year. In order to get support from various Representatives, he is circulating two letters addressed to the appropriations subcommittee chairmen that are in charge of the Treasury and HUD departments. They are Representatives Jim Kolbe and James Walsh. These letters ask Reps. Kolbe and Walsh to insert language defunding the Oversight Commission that was created in the recent Clinton Wesson agreement. Although not widely reported, the Clinton Wesson agreement would regulate the sales of ALL FIREARMS SOLD by dealers carrying Smith Wesson products. Dealers wishing to sell Smith Wesson guns would be REQUIRED to mandate government-approved safety courses for Glock purchasers. Dealers wishing to sell Smith Wesson guns would be REQUIRED to limit Beretta purchases to one gun at a time. Dealers wishing to sell Smith Wesson guns would be prohibited from selling ANY firearm after 72 hours -- or 72 years -- unless the FBI had given its approval in connection with a Brady Law Instant Check. The Clinton Wesson agreement stipulates that participating gun retailers cannot sell ANY firearm until they receive definitive notice that the transferee is not a prohibited person under the Gun Control Act. Currently, if FBI has not given a definitive "yes" or "no" reply, the dealer may proceed to consummate
Re: [CTRL] Rep. Metcalf-We Have No Business in Kosovo
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- So am I to assume that "we're" on the Richer email list now too? Lucky us... Hm Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] What are we to believe?
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Why O' Great Trumpeter? FWP. On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Nurev Ind Research wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- 4/4/00 This stuff is ridiclous. Joshua2 = Nicky Molloy wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I may have posted this already, but I have some Kabballah posts and would like you to see who is doing what with the Kabballah, regarding the return of the 'Messiah'? arranged by Dr James Hurtak's Et masters to come about in Jerusalem..It appears that an Israeli Kabbalist seems to be following a similar philosophy to Hurtak with the regathering of the 12 tribes in Israel in anticipation of this event. http://www.thehope.org/futmyth.htm REALIZING THE HEAVENLY JERUSALEM Appendix "C" Future Mythology http://www.thehope.org/TEKENLIT.htm Constructing the Technology of Enlightenment Using light technology to nurture "Human Enlightenment" The optimal direction of High-Or Ltd Y.I. HayutMa'n, Cyber Architect. The Academy of Jerusalem and High-Or Inc. The Temple being rebuilt for this. We know that Yair Davidi in Israel has located the 12 tribes now from all over. Hurtak writes in the Keys of Enoch, referring to the Kabballa constantly as his guide, that the 12 tribes will be taken through time portals to other constellations to create another genesis. Hurtak hints he is Jacob. So maybe he thinks he is regathering his 'descendents' and has some divine right to do so. yea right...We must bear in mind that Dr Puharich [who was Hurtak's boss at Ossining] wrote a book about Sacred Mushrooms and is an expert on hallucinogenic plants.Hurtak dosen't say by what means he had a trip across the universe. However he does say he went bodily, but which body? He said he was praying and a great being appeared and he sped upwards into the heavens. Considering he has invented a free energy device, one would think he'd describe the propulsion of the vehicle he travelled in. But this dosen't bear a mention. His DNA analysis of the 'chosen ones' is rather lengthy. He is very explicit in some parts of the book esp if it concerns science, but when it comes to describing the culling of the the lower races, he makes Nostrodamus sounds clear. I have scanned 11 chapters of Intro to the Keys of Enoch. He dosen't have about the mass genocide in the intro book.The Day of Declaration talks of when the Reappearance of the [ET] Masters of Wisdom is supposedly coming, when somehow the earth gets zapped into the 4th dimension and all those who don't become a body of Light will be 'recycled'. In other words get killed, be terminated. He says to look at the positive side of death. He mentions this several times throughout the book. The ETs he says will be picking up those, with what sounds like implants .[he calls them vibratory Light crystals of the Christ blood encoded upon the doorposts of the body temple of Gematria.The sign of YHWH's name will be upon their 3rd eye and they will be taken from the fields after a scanner will probe the face of the earth and locate the chosen ones and they will go to the vehicles] The implants are up the nose in some cases and I have seen a post saying the implanted are to be taken away for repopulation of other planets. Dr Bruce Maccabbee said Ashtar told him this personally [by someone channeling him to answer questions Maccabbee was asking Ashtar]. It does say in the Bible that 2 will be in the field and one will be taken. Though what that means is debatable. Hurtak could be be applying this to the CIA military abductees, who have been genetically catalogued. As the Mormons have been mentioned positively by Hurtak as having the angel Moroni as the correct teacher, maybe they use the ancestry records for the abductions. The Mormons are apparently routinely recruited as CIA agents. Hurtak says the Mormons are the Living Tribe of Joseph. I have some articles which show the research done by Hurtak's former boss Andrija Puharich, who did research for the CIA into mind control, and what wavelengths affect the human consciousness. One ET channelled by a 'top world renowned scientist' in the early 70's found out that the ionosphere reflects the human brain waves. The name wasn't given, but I will post the Et dialogue. However Puharich was contacting Ets at that time for scientific info about consciousness. ?? HAARP is destroying the ionosphere and magnetosphere and I have a post about this which states that this is what was created at Montauk to be employed for mind control. They are busily destroying 'our reality' and changing it to another one. I have about 5/6posts which link the whole scheme together with the changing
[CTRL] Fwd: Socialism Still A Failure
Subject: Fwd: Socialism Still A FailureForwarded intact, credit where credit is due.- Original Message - From: The Republican <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Socialism Still A Failure CONGRESS ACTION: April 2, 2000 = SOCIALISM STILL A FAILURE: To anyone not blinded to reality by their ideology, it is no secret that socialism, because of its inherent and essential nature, is, and must always be, an abject and disastrous failure. The failure of socialism and social engineering by "the best and brightest" of left-wing liberalism is once again being proven, the latest evidence coming from communist China, Canada, Britain, France, and Australia. Exhibit One: Communist China's one-child policy has long been a shining example to which the population control extremists in this country point, admiringly demanding that we should try to be as "enlightened" as those Chinese so we can "save the earth". As has been repeatedly demonstratedon this page and elsewhere, the very ideas that the world is overpopulated, and that population density leads to poverty and starvation, are totally erroneous; but the "save the earth" crowd simply isn't interested in facts. Now comes news from communist China that their one-child policy isn't all it's cracked up to be, and has been, in fact, a disaster. Communist officials, "spurred on by a rash of student suicides,breakdowns and family murders", are "softening" their policy. The social engineers have been shocked by widespread female infanticides, illegal gender-selective abortions, and rampant official corruption and terrorism in enforcing the policy. Turns out that, no matter how hard the "enlightened" try, people simply can't be "engineered" like machines.Think that the Jane Fonda-Ted Turner-Hillary Clinton population controllers in this country will learn anything? Don't bet on it. Exhibit Two: Socialized, government controlled medicine is a perennial favorite of the leftist social engineers in this country. Hillary Clinton has become most closely associated with that goal as a result of her disastrous nationalized health care scheme in 1993, and she has long touted Britain's National Health Service with envy. Former candidateBill Bradley made nationalized health care a major plank of his failed campaign, and candidate Al Gore has cited Canada's health care system asa model to be emulated. Now from Canada comes a report by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) that there are long waiting lists for surgical and diagnostic procedures (one reportconcludes that the median patient has to wait 70% longer than is medically reasonable); that some procedures, routine in the United States, are unavailable in Canada; that technical devices such as CT scanners andMRI machines are scarce; that cost controls on pharmaceuticals have actually led to deaths from the lack of available medicines; and most astonishingof all, in this era of increasing general world-wide health and lengthening life spans, Canadian life expectancy is actually declining. FromBritain's National Health Service comes a report that perhaps one third of all terminally ill cancer patients are dying only because of delays in treatment or misdiagnoses. According to the London Times, "long delays between appointments were often blamed for a time lag when previously treatable cancers grew incurable". A leading British cancer specialistwas quoted "It costs nothing to ensure that patients see a doctor within two weeks, as the government has insisted, but what is the point if theythen have to wait about three months for treatment with a worn-outradiotherapy machine?" Think that the Hillary Clinton-Al Gore nationalized healthcare schemers in this country will learn anything? Don't bet on it. Exhibit Three: France contains what is considered to be the last big communist party in Europe. But this week, France's communist party scheduled a party vote on a document condemning the history ofcommunism, concluding that communism "did not liberate humanity", but rather led to the "oppression of the individual, a tendency to see different opinionsas deviation or betrayal, and practices which in all too many casesbordered on the criminal". Sounds like political correctness in this country. One member of the party hierarchy in Paris said "It's time to move on and leave all those old ideas behind. They didn't do us any good." True, but those ideas did lead to mass imprisonment and the slaughter of millions. Typical of the usual reaction of brain-dead socialists (and leftists in this country), who never let reality intrude into their irrational fantasies, was the reaction of one old communist in France: "It's notthe party that needs to change, it's the rest of society." Typical of the egomaniacal thinking of all socialists: the rest of the world is wrong, only they are right. Think that the socialist left in this country, that is still trying to impose government regulation on everything in
[CTRL] Fw: (50 Years) The New Unrest
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- - Original Message - From: Bill Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 50 Years National List Serv [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 4:15 PM Subject: (50 Years) The New Unrest The New Unrest Radicals are finally finding their voices again For the longest time, being on the left has meant being marginal, powerless and embattled. Since at least the Reagan years, we've been history's losers, the dorks and freaks of the political realm. Often, we adapted poorly to our general irrelevance, turning inward to fight over inanities or purveying stale messages- "Bad slogans repeated, ensure we'll be defeated"-at predictable demonstrations. There were issue-oriented movements that bucked this trend-big, important causes that won sizable victories, such as the anti-apartheid movement and the AIDS direct-action group ACT UP. But viable on-the-ground activism with a sweeping economic and political agenda? That kind of radicalism was almost nowhere to be found. History has turned a corner. Suddenly, as this new century begins, a new radicalism has emerged: broad, confident and compelling. The World Trade Organization protests in Seattle marked this movement's first major victory and mass media debut, but the new unrest is not limited to the loud and varied activism around issues of corporate globalization. Everywhere, dissent is growing more vocal and spirited. Groups that once worked at arm's length from one another are newly discovering common ground-from the increasingly multi-generational and multi-ethnic campaigns against police brutality and the "prison-industrial complex" to the new collaborations between organized labor and immigrant rights groups. Han Shan, program director for the Ruckus Society, a five-year-old organization that trains activists the techniques and strategies of direct action, echoes the analysis other young radicals profess: "I think that people have finally begun to dig deeper and understand that there are vast economic paradigms that underlie a lot of the environmental problems that we have, a lot of the human rights issues that they face." With this new sense of momentum and common ground, level-headed organizers are beginning to talk in terms that would have seemed delusional just a short time ago. "This is the biggest opening for building a mass movement in my lifetime," says David Solnit, a veteran of 1980s and 1990s activism and one of the key organizers of the Seattle WTO blockade. "Most of the past mass movements in this country have been around single issues like disarmament or Central America or forests. This is bringing people together from all the different fights." Personally, I'm dubious about anything being actually overthrown-the snarky cynicism of the 1990s is beginning to seem dated, but healthy skepticism never goes out of style. That said, a whiff of insurrection is unquestionably in the air. Everywhere you turn, it seems, people are vowing to shut down one or another elite institution. The biggest such event in the near-term future is a major protest in Washington, D.C., on April 16, designed to disrupt an annual meeting of the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. Radical activists around the world have declared May 1, 2000 to be a "Global Day of Action, Resistance, and Carnival Against Capitalism," with talk of blockading stock exchanges and other institutions of the global economy. And plans are afoot in Los Angeles and Philadelphia to mess with this summer's Democratic and Republican Party conventions, on the reasoned grounds that both parties have become nothing more than shills for moneyed interests. Meanwhile, local fights are escalating. In New York City, for example, there has been a long-standing battle against private luxury development on publicly owned community gardens. The other night, several hundred people calling themselves the Subway Liberation Front staged a raucous outlaw party, taking over first an L and then an A train. A large part of the crowd, juiced by its own defiance, proceeded to the recently bulldozed Esperanza Garden on Manhattan's Lower East Side, where they tore down the developer's fence and began replanting the land. This impromptu action came at a high price: With no news cameras or legal observers to provide cover for the radical gardeners, the NYPD swooped in, badly beating a number of the participants. In Milwaukee, opponents of a Jewel-Osco in the Riverwest area continue to protest its presence after the store was built with some political sleight-of-hand on what protesters viewed as future green space. There is much about the new unrest that bears closer examination. Will gestures of revolt overwhelm strategic considerations, as they did that night in Esperanza Garden? How deep are the new alliances, particularly those that seek to bridge racial and class
Re: [CTRL] American Depravity by William Norman Grigg
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Well, either We detect some "Grapes of Wrath" at the Oscars, or are we not "All Is Quiet on the Western Front".? Given your comments - all well desirved I might add - You're giving the Screen Actors Guild and the Academy "Das Boot" ? Zer Goot ! The majority of the Gen. X Crowd would do well listening to their Grandparents as to the Truth of Real American History that they lived through. Those of us in our late 40's can remember our parents tell us the Truth how they grew up in and lived through the Great Depression, WW II, and Korea. We in the 40's can relate to the Gen. X crowd the Truth of Nam and Why We Aren't "Fonda Jane"! Some of the pundits critized "Saving Private Ryan" calling it - "Shaving Ryan's Private's". Because of the Ads and reviews I did go to see the movie, And the Effects Really Rattled My Nerves ! I remember was it 25 years ago, that George C. Scott played General Patton, in "PATTON", and there was the "Battle of the Buldge". When my Father, who was there in the Ardenn, in that Town Surrounded y the German Divisions, He told me how they made it through on Nothing But Courage. He was a War Hero many times over. And had suffered the rest of his life from what he went through. I remember he told me his G.I. General told the Nazi General "NUTS" as to terms of Surrender. He told me Never Ever Give Up or Surrender ! I know that If God didn't allow for the Weather to break for the U.S. Army Air Corps to get through, along with Patton's 3rd Armored Division to break off one battle to race to their rescue - I would Not have a Father to guide me growing up. And that Battle would have been another "Alamo". My Dad has been gone now since 1982. And I never feel that I could Thank Him Enough, or my Uncles, the rest of their Generation for what Terrior they had to endure.Now the Torch has been passed onto us by our parents. Those of us who are the Gen. X Parents have the Moral Resposibility and Duty to Teach them the Truth of our American History, NOT the Intellectual Flatulence that is written in the current "Revisionist History and Social Studies Books". Our American Culture is Valuable as it was passed on to us by those generations that came before us. And we Must preserve it to pass it "improved" onto the next one. For If we don't; when it is our time for judgement, what will we say to those who made the ultiminate sacrifice for our sake? To have let our Society to Degerate as much as it had, or any further? As Gen. Douglas McArthur said at his farewell speach to Congress, "Old Soldiers never DieThey Just Fade Away." We must always remember the Blood of the Patriots made this Nation Free, And not let our Heritage, our Culture Fade Away. We Owe it to Them. ~ Mike ~ U.A.I.C.- VT. ** * De Oppresso Liber * * A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Messiah BEFORE Jesus
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WIRE:04/01/2000 21:06:00 ET FEATURE-Was unknown messiah role model for Jesus? JERUSALEM, April 2 (Reuters) - An ancient Jewish messiah named Menachem may have been a hitherto unknown role model for Jesus Christ, according to an Israeli researcher. Israel Knohl, head of the Bible Department at Jerusalem's Hebrew University, explains his theory in his book, "The Messiah Before Jesus: The Suffering Servant of the Dead Sea Scrolls." The book stems from three years of research based on the "Thanksgiving scroll," which Knohl says was written by Menachem, leader of a first century extremist Jewish sect. It was one of seven scrolls and some 800 manuscripts found hidden in jars in caves close to the Dead Sea in the 1940s and 1950s. The scroll is damaged and Knohl believes that Menachem's ideas were so explosive that "someone, at some time" tried to ruin it. "I see here a mystery. If they wanted to preserve (the scroll) by putting it in the jar, why should someone squeeze it, disfigure it?" Knohl asked a recent theological conference. He said a closer look at Menachem could change the way Jesus has been seen for centuries. "Menachem saw himself as a suffering servant of God but also a divine messiah and son of man, concepts which scholars say did not coexist before Jesus," he said. "I say Jesus knew about Menachem. When Jesus came to the game there was already a theology that the messiah should suffer, be killed and come to life again." The theory strikes a blow at traditional scholarship that has cast Jesus as a preacher who was moulded into a messianic figure by followers only after his death. JESUS EMBODIED AN OLDER CONCEPT "The main group of New Testament scholars tend to say there was no concept of a suffering messiah in Judaism -- only a triumphant, glorious figure. But the idea was there before with Menachem," Knohl said. Many scholars believe the scrolls were written by the Essenes, an austere first century Jewish sect. Researchers believe the Essenes stored their sacred works, including copies of the Hebrew bible, Jewish writings, codes and literature, in clay jars to hide them from marauding Romans. By patching together "pieces from pieces" from two hymns in the Thanksgiving scroll and comparing them with other manuscripts of the same hymn found at the site, Knohl said he had unearthed the unprecedented claims of a suffering messiah. "I was shocked when I saw it," he said. As evidence, he points to hymns in the scroll in which the author not only equates himself to the Suffering Servant in the Book of Isaiah but also depicts himself sitting majestically like God in the presence of angels. The links between Jesus and Menachem are also found in Jewish texts and in the writings of the first century historian Josephus Flavius, which mention a messiah called Menachem. Several legends speak of a messiah of the same name who was born in Bethlehem, Knohl said. He also thinks that John the Baptist, believed by many scholars to be an Essene, exposed Jesus to Menachem's ideas. Menachem and Jesus were not only bound by ideology, but their lives and deaths also bore a number of similarities, Knohl said. Both were excommunicated by the rabbis of the day for their maverick views. Both were killed by the Romans and believed by their followers to have risen after their deaths. SCEPTICISM REMAINS Not everyone is convinced about Knohl's theory, however. Peter Pettit of Muhlenberg College in Pennsylvania likened Knohl to "an experienced guide," who "entices us all to dance on the thread of his argument." But Pettit told the Jerusalem theology conference that he was cautious about what he called the fragmentary nature of the texts and "narrowness of the sources." Knohl maintains that his theory provides a fuller picture of Jesus's identity than has previously existed. "Many Christians had given up the idea of knowing about the historical Jesus...but now, 50 years after the scroll was found, for the first time we can understand the background to Jesus's self-awareness," Knohl said. Awareness of his imminent suffering weighed heavily on Jesus, the researcher added. "In the Garden of Gethsemane he is described in gospels as entering into very deep depression. And what does he say? 'God, Father, if you can, take this terrible mission from me, otherwise I will accept it,"' Knohl said. "So in my view, this is a wonderful example of his inner struggle; he knew he would be put to death, but in another part of his soul he is young man and has a natural desire for life. He knew he was going to suffer. He already knew the path." Pettit says guessing Jesus's mindset, 2,000 years later, is not an easy task. "When we get into Jesus's psychology we are pretty high up on a pretty thin thread," he said. But Knohl is resolute. "Jesus was not a pure imitation of this man. He had many new
Re: [CTRL] Rep. Metcalf-We Have No Business in Kosovo
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- FYI Bill Richer wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Rep. Metcalf-"We Have No Business in Kosovo" Rep. Metcalf-"We Have No Business in Kosovo" "We Need to Bring America Home OPPOSING CONTINUED U.S. INVOLVEMENT IN THE BALKAN CONFLICT (House of Representatives - March 30, 2000) The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a previous order of the House, the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Metcalf) is recognized for 5 minutes. Mr. METCALF. Mr. Speaker,we have no business in Kosovo. We have no overriding national interest there. We have heard much vaunted allegations of human rights violations leveled against the Serbian government. Unfortunately, once again, we come to find out that an administration determined to mire us in overseas turmoil has greatly exaggerated the situation to win over a skeptical public and stampede the Congress. In this case, we were told several months ago that as many as 100,000 Albanian Kosovars were brutally murdered. Now we are looking at a figure closer to 1,000. What of our continually expanded bombing that eventually included not only public transportation but medical facilities, nearly 100 schools, churches, and homes? What of the innocent deaths we inflicted with tax dollars of the citizens of the United States? What have we done here? What were the objectives of our President's most recent adventure? What are the results? We were told when we went into Kosovo that we went there to stop ethnic cleansing. It continues with a vengeance, this time with the acquiescence of our own forces. The KLA, not 2 years ago classified by our own State Department as a heroin-financed terrorist organization, soon to be vaunted by the Clinton administration as freedom fighters, now roams the countryside brutalizing innocents, not only Serbs but gypsies, Muslims, Slavs, and Albanians opposed to their thuggishness. Bishop Artemije of the Diocese of Kosovo stated one month ago before the Helsinki Commission, and I quote, `More than 80 Orthodox churches have been either completely destroyed or severely damaged since the end of the war. The ancient churches, many of which survived 500 years of Ottoman Moslem rule, could not survive 8 months of the internationally guaranteed peace. Regretfully, all this happens in the presence of KFOR, the NATO peacekeeping force in Kosovo, and the U.N.' Yes, we have cast our lot with the KLA and its affiliates, an organization dedicated to its own version of ethnic cleansing. Removal of all non-Albanians from a region that not only includes Kosovo, but also southern Serbia and Macedonia, with its Albanian minority. We were told we went into Kosovo to `stabilize the Balkans.' Initially, the ambiguity of our policy gave the green light to separatist movements around the region. Today, in both Bosnia and Kosovo, we are committed into the future as far as the eye can see. When I was able to cause a vote on the floor of the House on the incursion into Bosnia, a vote the administration did not want to take place, I stated on this floor, Mr. Speaker, that Mr. Clinton would not keep his promise to us. What was his promise? That he would send our American troops home from Bosnia by December 20, 1996. I ask, Mr. Speaker, what stability have we achieved in the Balkans? And at what price to this Nation? Can anyone share with this Congress a realistic exit strategy from this quagmire? In the Kosovo region, yesterday's Washington Post tells us that Kosovar militias still refuse to disarm and are now destabilizing southern Serbia. A new confrontation with Milosevic and a new refugee crisis is feared. And what will we do with a violent KLA we empowered when it turns its sights on Macedonia, which also has an Albanian population? I agree with Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison's assessment of our Balkan interventions recently published in the Financial Times. She said, `NATO has got to get off of this merry-go-round. It must acknowledge that imposing multicultural democracy at the point of a gun is not working.' Mr. Speaker, we were told we went into Kosovo to thwart the Serbian ruler there, Milosevic. What have we accomplished here? Milosevic is more firmly in place than ever; hard-liners in Serbia in a better place than ever before due entirely to our intervention; the bombing of civilians; the vilification of the Serbian people; and, the destruction of the Serbian culture under our occupation. We were told we went into Kosovo to ensure the credibility of NATO. But did we do this by violating the first section of the NATO charter by launching a war against a sovereign Nation that has committed no aggression against any of its neighbors? NATO's strength was that it was a shield, not a sword. Some skeptics say that NATO actions were
Re: [CTRL] The Messiah BEFORE Jesus
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I really like it when things like this come to light, because it causes people to question what they have been taught for years and to question the strength of their own beliefs. There are many possible interpretations that could come from this work, only one of which was explored by the scholar who wrote the book referenced in the e-mail below. It certainly sheds new light on those times, and that place in history. Where light is shed darkness and ignorance flees, this is a good thing. No? On Tue, 04 April 2000, William Shannon wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WIRE:04/01/2000 21:06:00 ET FEATURE-Was unknown messiah role model for Jesus? JERUSALEM, April 2 (Reuters) - An ancient Jewish messiah named Menachem may have been a hitherto unknown role model for Jesus Christ, according to an Israeli researcher. Israel Knohl, head of the Bible Department at Jerusalem's Hebrew University, explains his theory in his book, "The Messiah Before Jesus: The Suffering Servant of the Dead Sea Scrolls." The book stems from three years of research based on the "Thanksgiving scroll," which Knohl says was written by Menachem, leader of a first century extremist Jewish sect. It was one of seven scrolls and some 800 manuscripts found hidden in jars in caves close to the Dead Sea in the 1940s and 1950s. The scroll is damaged and Knohl believes that Menachem's ideas were so explosive that "someone, at some time" tried to ruin it. "I see here a mystery. If they wanted to preserve (the scroll) by putting it in the jar, why should someone squeeze it, disfigure it?" Knohl asked a recent theological conference. He said a closer look at Menachem could change the way Jesus has been seen for centuries. "Menachem saw himself as a suffering servant of God but also a divine messiah and son of man, concepts which scholars say did not coexist before Jesus," he said. "I say Jesus knew about Menachem. When Jesus came to the game there was already a theology that the messiah should suffer, be killed and come to life again." The theory strikes a blow at traditional scholarship that has cast Jesus as a preacher who was moulded into a messianic figure by followers only after his death. JESUS EMBODIED AN OLDER CONCEPT "The main group of New Testament scholars tend to say there was no concept of a suffering messiah in Judaism -- only a triumphant, glorious figure. But the idea was there before with Menachem," Knohl said. Many scholars believe the scrolls were written by the Essenes, an austere first century Jewish sect. Researchers believe the Essenes stored their sacred works, including copies of the Hebrew bible, Jewish writings, codes and literature, in clay jars to hide them from marauding Romans. By patching together "pieces from pieces" from two hymns in the Thanksgiving scroll and comparing them with other manuscripts of the same hymn found at the site, Knohl said he had unearthed the unprecedented claims of a suffering messiah. "I was shocked when I saw it," he said. As evidence, he points to hymns in the scroll in which the author not only equates himself to the Suffering Servant in the Book of Isaiah but also depicts himself sitting majestically like God in the presence of angels. The links between Jesus and Menachem are also found in Jewish texts and in the writings of the first century historian Josephus Flavius, which mention a messiah called Menachem. Several legends speak of a messiah of the same name who was born in Bethlehem, Knohl said. He also thinks that John the Baptist, believed by many scholars to be an Essene, exposed Jesus to Menachem's ideas. Menachem and Jesus were not only bound by ideology, but their lives and deaths also bore a number of similarities, Knohl said. Both were excommunicated by the rabbis of the day for their maverick views. Both were killed by the Romans and believed by their followers to have risen after their deaths. SCEPTICISM REMAINS Not everyone is convinced about Knohl's theory, however. Peter Pettit of Muhlenberg College in Pennsylvania likened Knohl to "an experienced guide," who "entices us all to dance on the thread of his argument." But Pettit told the Jerusalem theology conference that he was cautious about what he called the fragmentary nature of the texts and "narrowness of the sources." Knohl maintains that his theory provides a fuller picture of Jesus's identity than has previously existed. "Many Christians had given up the idea of knowing about the historical Jesus...but now, 50 years after the scroll was found, for the first time we can understand the background to Jesus's self-awareness," Knohl said. Awareness of his imminent suffering weighed heavily on Jesus, the researcher added. "In the Garden of Gethsemane he is
[CTRL] Russian Environmental Digest (REDfiles) vol 2 No. 13
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- http://www.earthradioTV.com = Russian Environmental Digest (REDfiles) is a compilation of the week's major English-language press on environmental issues in Russia. 27 March - 2 April 2000, Vol. 2, No. 13 1. Supreme Court to Consider Appeal Against Environmentalist's Acquittal 2. Russia's Review of Nikitin Case Seen as A Test of 'Dictatorship' 3. Russian Supreme Court Postpones Trial over Ecologist 4. Chechen Environment Contaminated with Oil, Petroproducts 5. Problems of Casting-head Gas Recovery in Priobye 6. Tender for Purification of Territories Polluted with Oil 7. 19 People Fall Ill with Typhoid Fever in Chechen Village 8. Oil Port under Construction in Leningrad Region 9. A Little Corner of Freedom: Russian Nature Protection from Stalin to Gorbachev 10. Russia Says It Doesn't Need U.S. Food Aid 11. Russian Nuclear Sub Wreck in Norwegian Sea Harmless 12. Russian Research Reactors Unsafe: Government Inspector 13. Russia Registered 16,000 Nuclear Safety Violations in 1999 14. Over 120,000 New Cases of Tuberculosis Registered in Russia in 1999 1 Supreme Court to Consider Appeal Against Environmentalist's Acquittal Interfax News Agency, March 29, 2000 Russia's Supreme Court on Wednesday will consider the appeal of St. Petersburg's prosecutors against the verdict passed on environmentalist Alexander Nikitin. Nikitin was arrested by the Federal Security Service on February 6, 1996 on charges of high treason and disclosure of state secrets while writing a report for the Norwegian environmental-protection organization Bellona about the potential risks of radioactive contamination of the northwestern region. An investigation into the case lasted nearly four years, culminating in Nikitin's acquittal by the city court of St. Petersburg on December 29, 1999. For the first time in Russia's judicial history a citizen won a case against the state security service. Nikitin's defense lawyer Yuri Schmidt earlier said at a press conference that "irrespective of the Supreme Court's decision, Nikitin's case will be subsequently taken up by the European Court in Strasbourg." Nikitin said in turn that he will continue to do his old work and cooperate with Bellona. (back to top) 2 Russia's Review of Nikitin Case Seen as A Test of 'Dictatorship' The Ottawa Citizen, March 29, 2000 Russia's Supreme Court reviews the acquittal of anti-nuclear activist Alexander Nikitin today in a case that has been placed in the spotlight by support from president-elect Vladimir Putin, a former KGB agent. The FSB, a successor to the KGB security police, arrested Mr. Nikitin on treason charges in 1996 for making public information about radioactive pollution in the Arctic Sea through the Norwegian environmental group Bellona. Many say the court's decision in the Nikitin case will send a message about whether or not the Russian constitution is impervious to authoritarian interference. ''The court review will be a small indicator of what's coming in this country,'' Mr. Nikitin, a former navy captain said in a press conference yesterday in downtown Moscow. Mr. Nikitin was held in custody for 10 months following the treason charges and then released to face trial. A city court in St. Petersburg dismissed the charges last December, based on the Russian constitution, which states that no secret sub-legal acts, norms or laws can be sued against a citizen. Citizen editorial writer Dan Gardner recently won the 1999 Amnesty International media award for human rights coverage for a feature story that traced Mr. Nikitin's struggle to expose environmental hazards posed by nuclear waste and decommissioned nuclear submarines in the Russian Arctic. Mr. Putin, elected Russian president on Sunday, headed the FSB for part of the time it was pressing its case against Mr. Nikitin. Some human rights activists are anxious about a vow Mr. Putin made this year to establish a ''dictatorship of the law'', emphasizing dictatorship rather than the law. But yesterday Mr. Nikitin said he hoped his woes were about to end. ''Yes, Putin was the head of the FSB but he did not get directly involved the case and he did not begin it, and I hope he will end it,'' said Mr. Nikitin. ''I'm totally calm before tomorrow's review but would very much like this to be over because we have a lot of environmental work to do.'' Although Mr. Nikitin was outwardly calm, his attorney Yuri Shmidt said the FSB's continuing interest in the case was cause of concern. ''These forces are not calming down. We sense they are working behind the scenes,'' he said. Yevgeny Chernov, a former Soviet navy vice-admiral and nuclear submarine commander who is lobbying on Mr. Nikitin's behalf, said he was less concerned. ''I'm counting on the strength of Putin's character,'' he said. Mr. Nikitin, whose research documented the dumping of nuclear waste from 1965-89 and Soviet nuclear submarine accidents, said he would
[CTRL] Czech: FBI imperialism to replaces the Soviet kind
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- http://ww.earthradioTV.com/ ==I ISSUE 1773 Sunday 2 April 2000 It's American imperialism to replace the Soviet kind By Justin Sparks in Prague, David Wastell in Washington and Julian Coman PLANS to send American FBI agents on to the streets of Prague, Budapest and Warsaw have sparked a revival of Cold War rhetoric among hostile residents and indignant local police. Three new FBI offices are to be set up in eastern Europe by the end of the year, manned by up to 20 officers who will "shadow" and advise their east European counterparts on crime fighting. According to the American embassy in Budapest, they will be charged with combating organised crime in the region to "better ensure the safety of the American public in America and abroad". Eastern Europe has long been identified by Washington as a safe haven for Russian gangsters engaged in money-laundering, drug-running and human-trafficking. The new strategy, enthusiastically endorsed by the host governments, is the most aggressive move yet against the crime syndicates which have flourished in the economic chaos that followed the collapse of communism. But local Left-wing politicians are calling the move an "American invasion", while national police forces have been scandalised by rumours that the new recruits will have the power to hire and fire their Czech, Polish and Hungarian counterparts. Ordinary citizens such as Mr Klenek, a Prague schoolteacher, fear that the FBI is about to replace the former KGB as "paymasters" of the Czech secret services, still detested for their repressive role in the communist era. Mr Klenek said: "It's American imperialism to replace the Soviet kind. Eventually they'll be running the Czech secret service just like the KGB did, and they'll have access to all kinds of information about us. Not just about politicians, but about average Czechs like me." FBI spokesmen and American embassy officials are doing their best to play down the powers the agents will be given. The bureau's spokesman for international affairs, James Weber, said: "The FBI believes that it is essential to station more of its highly skilled Special Agents in other countries to prevent terrorism and foreign crime from reaching into the US to kill and harm Americans. "The US has been ravaged for far too long by foreign criminals originating in partial or complete sanctuaries abroad, and using their beyond-the-border advantages to carry out terrorism, drug trafficking, and other violent crimes." But, Mr Weber added, the new agents "will not make arrests, unilaterally develop or operate informants, nor gather intelligence." Edward Kemp of the American embassy in Vienna said that the FBI's policy would not be one of direct involvement. He said: "It's mainly assuming a supervisory role, and is carrying out training courses." But those claims are being treated with scepticism in Budapest, where an FBI training school has been in operation for several years. One analyst, who researches organised crime in Hungary, said: "There are a lot of reports of resentment among the Hungarian security officers." Although it is denied that agents will have powers of arrest, each FBI officer will work alongside a Hungarian, who will arrest suspects on their behalf. On the basis of their experiences at the training school, Hungarian police and intelligence officers have complained about the brash style of the Americans who, they say, treat them as inferiors. Despite similar reservations among his own police forces and secret service, Vaclav Havel, the Czech president, has loudly welcomed the prospect of an FBI presence in Prague. Zdenek Zboril, a political analyst at Charles University and a security-force adviser, said that the president's enthusiasm resulted from his exasperation with continuing Russian influence in the Czech Republic. As well as the Russian mafias dominating the Prague underworld, Russian officials from the huge diplomatic corps have been implicated in several high-profile spy scandals. Mr Zboril said: "President Havel knows that he hasn't yet beaten the communist past in this country. That's the real reason why he's so keen to bring in the FBI - for a countervailing influence. There are still a lot of old communists and ex-KGB officials pulling the strings here. The Czech secret service itself still relies on methods and training taken from the KGB." Other Czech supporters of the FBI project point to the clear failure of local police to deal with organised crime. Jan Kramek, a Czech Senator who claims to have confidential secret-service information, said: "There's currently a very real threat that the Czech Republic may become the number-one centre for organised crime and international terrorism, not only in Europe but in the whole world." One police investigator, who wished to remain anonymous, said that political corruption and poor existing police resources continually
[CTRL] MRML: Spread the meme
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- http://www.earthradioTV.com I know that even the least technically minded will appreciate this information about a new HTML. Something really ground breaking in mark up languages has just been announced - MRML. This is obviously going to make a big impression on impressionable people. You all know about HTML, VRML, XML and SGML but now you'll have to get to grips with MRML. A Guide to MRML The Mind Reading Markup Language (MRML /mur'mul/) is a proprietary extension of the HyperText Markup Language. This document, all MRML tags, and any ideas you come up with while reading this information are the exclusive property of the authors. This is an open specification that will be expanded as mind control technology is refined. MRML tags can be embedded into any regular HTML document. They are completely invisible to all browsers. No one will ever know you are using them. NOTE: MRML is not case sensitive. freud is equivalent to FREUD or frEUd. Basic Markup Tags The following MRML tags are used to read the client's mind for certain kinds of thoughts and emotions about the contained text. BRAINSCAN Brainscan performs a light scan of the client's thoughts which may include perceptions of their current environment. The Brainscan tag is an invaluable tool for establishing a user's identity as it is much more reliable than checking REMOTE_HOST or USER_ID variables. THOUGHTSUCK Thoughtsuck performs of deeper scan of the client's thoughts which may included details of significant events within the past 24 hours. DEEPFEARSsubject/DEEPFEARS Probes the client's mind for their fears about the contained subject. DEEPERFEARSsubject/DEEPERFEARS Probes the client's mind for their deeper, more repressed fears about the contained subject. DEEPESTFEARSsubject/DEEPESTFEARS Probes the client's mind for their deepest, most repressed fears about the contained subject. WARNING: This tag cannot be exported outside the US borders. SEXTHOUGHTSsubject/SEXTHOUGHTS Probes the client's mind for sexual thoughts about the contained subject. Use of the Sexthoughts tag will likely be depreciated with the release of the Freud and Jung specifications. Freud and Jung Tags Specifications for Freudian id, ego, and superego tags and Jungian symbolic tags are not currently available. The HYPNOTIZE Tag Current technology enables very primitive mind control using MRML tags. The so-called Brainwashing tags are delimited by the the special !--HYPNOTIZEHYPNOTIZE-- pair. Suggestions within the Hypnotize area are completely invisible to all clients, but it is extremely important that the tags are placed correctly. You are liable for any mental damages inflicted by improperly placed tags. HYPNOTIZE Area Tags Within the !--HYPNOTIZE/HYPNOTIZE-- area the following tags may be used: SUGGESTtext/SUGGEST Used for mild, easily acceptable suggestions. For stronger suggestions use PROGRAM and BELIEVE. Some examples: It is warm for this time of year. You need to upgrade your computer. Republican policies aren't all that bad. MEMEtext/MEME Information that you want the client to pass on to friends and correspondents. Some popular memes: Chain letters Urban legends Cool ascii graphics FORGETtext/FORGET Things you want the client to forget. It may be desirable to have the client forget the URL of your MRML documents. PROGRAMtext/PROGRAM Programs the client with a strong post-hypnotic suggestion. There are a few optional arguments. PROGRAM TIMES=3 INTERVAL="1 hour" DELAY="2 days" will trigger the suggestions three times at a one hour interval two days hence. PROGRAM INTERVAL="after every meal" FOREVER could trigger the suggestion brush your teeth for an indefinite time. Within the PROGRAM/PROGRAM area the following tags may be used: BELIEVEtext/BELIEVE Explicit thoughts to be planted in the client's mind. Beware of contradictory programming! Try to remove previous conceptions before reprogramming. To reprogram someone that thinks that Pepsi is better than Coke: #BELIEVEYou have no opinions about the relationship between Coke and Pepsi./BELIEVE #BELIEVECoke is better than Pepsi./BELIEVE #BELIEVEYou are thirsty./BELIEVE BUY HREF=url Encourages the client to buy products on the World Wide Web. The optional ITEM=item argument may be used. PASSWORD=keyword or phrase A convenient way to access the client's mind for future programming sessions. Should only be used with a secure client-server connection. Clarification: The BLINK Tag The BLINK tag used in many popular browsers is not a MRML specified tag. Running Your Own MRML Server The software needed to run a MRML-oriented server is freely available to all persons and institutions. To obtain a copy of the server software a representative for you or your company must attend a special 3-day training session where they will be given the MRML software package. These training sessions are currently being held twice a month at an
[CTRL] ECTV/Breaking News - Third Volcano Erupts Within Days
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- http://www.earthradioTV.com = Third Volcano Erupts Within Days of Each Other...04/04/00 by Mitch Battros (ECTV) First it was Mt. Usu in Japan, then Mt. Etna in Sicily, now Mexico's Mt. Popocatepetl. Is there another one yet to explode? Is there a correlation to solar activity? The sunspot count is now over 300 and expected to go higher. Watch for a series of M-Class and X-Class flares which have already begun. Possible series of CME's expected. Possible escalation in earthquake activity to occur. Yesterday, two earthquakes hit Indonesia. More expected in next few days to measure 6.0 or larger area unknown. Cyclone Hudah hammered north-eastern Madagascar. Watch for "extreme weather" all around the world. Equation: Sunspots = Solar Flares = Magnetic Shift = Shifting Ocean and Jet Stream Currents = Extreme Weather Mexican Mt. Popocatepetl Volcano Erupts...04/04/00 Nando Media MEXICO CITY - The huge Popocatepetl volcano spewed ash and gas a mile high above its crater in two brief bursts Sunday night, monitors said Monday. The 17-886-foot high volcano calmed after two bursts Sunday evening, according to the National Center for the Prevention of Disasters. No ash plume was visible Monday. Officials in February expanded the recommended no-enter zone around the volcano to 4 miles from 3 miles because of increased activity, including the formation of a new lava dome within the crater. The volcano, about 40 miles southeast of Mexico City, has been spewing vapor, ash and rock intermittently since December 1994 after lying largely dormant since 1927. It had been relatively quiet over the past year, but produced minor eruptions in October and November. Mitch Battros Producer - Earth Changes TV http://www.earthchangesTV.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] TEXAS DEATH ROW: FATHER SON
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- See: http://www.earthradioTV.com Thanks, Alfred A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Messiah BEFORE Jesus
BUUURP!!! This entire piece is a pile of contradictory twaddle! Perhaps old darkness - rather than any "new light". Jesus, from all accounts, was not an "extremist" - rather He "ate and drank" with "sinners" and Pharisee's alike. It was the religionist "scholars" and "rabbis" of the day that were that were the "extremists"! The notion of the "messiahs" suffering and death was prophesied centuries before the birth of Christ - it was NOT a "new" paradigm that merely popped up in Jesus day. The attempt to "link" Jesus with some Esoteric, or Know-Nothing-Gnostic sect, Essenes, and et al, or Eastern foolosophy has been engaged in for centuries by self-proclaimed gurus, swamis, priests, and cranks masquerading as "scholars". - Original Message - From: "tenebroust" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Messiah BEFORE Jesus -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I really like it when things like this come to light, because it causes people to question what they have been taught for years and to question the strength of their own beliefs. There are many possible interpretations that could come from this work, only one of which was explored by the scholar who wrote the book referenced in the e-mail below. It certainly sheds new light on those times, and that place in history. Where light is shed darkness and ignorance flees, this is a good thing. No? On Tue, 04 April 2000, William Shannon wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WIRE:04/01/2000 21:06:00 ET FEATURE-Was unknown messiah role model for Jesus? JERUSALEM, April 2 (Reuters) - An ancient Jewish messiah named Menachem may have been a hitherto unknown role model for Jesus Christ, according to an Israeli researcher. Israel Knohl, head of the Bible Department at Jerusalem's Hebrew University, explains his theory in his book, "The Messiah Before Jesus: The Suffering Servant of the Dead Sea Scrolls." The book stems from three years of research based on the "Thanksgiving scroll," which Knohl says was written by Menachem, leader of a first century extremist Jewish sect. It was one of seven scrolls and some 800 manuscripts found hidden in jars in caves close to the Dead Sea in the 1940s and 1950s. The scroll is damaged and Knohl believes that Menachem's ideas were so explosive that "someone, at some time" tried to ruin it. "I see here a mystery. If they wanted to preserve (the scroll) by putting it in the jar, why should someone squeeze it, disfigure it?" Knohl asked a recent theological conference. He said a closer look at Menachem could change the way Jesus has been seen for centuries. "Menachem saw himself as a suffering servant of God but also a divine messiah and son of man, concepts which scholars say did not coexist before Jesus," he said. "I say Jesus knew about Menachem. When Jesus came to the game there was already a theology that the messiah should suffer, be killed and come to life again." The theory strikes a blow at traditional scholarship that has cast Jesus as a preacher who was moulded into a messianic figure by followers only after his death. JESUS EMBODIED AN OLDER CONCEPT "The main group of New Testament scholars tend to say there was no concept of a suffering messiah in Judaism -- only a triumphant, glorious figure. But the idea was there before with Menachem," Knohl said. Many scholars believe the scrolls were written by the Essenes, an austere first century Jewish sect. Researchers believe the Essenes stored their sacred works, including copies of the Hebrew bible, Jewish writings, codes and literature, in clay jars to hide them from marauding Romans. By patching together "pieces from pieces" from two hymns in the Thanksgiving scroll and comparing them with other manuscripts of the same hymn found at the site, Knohl said he had unearthed the unprecedented claims of a suffering messiah. "I was shocked when I saw it," he said. As evidence, he points to hymns in the scroll in which the author not only equates himself to the Suffering Servant in the Book of Isaiah but also depicts himself sitting majestically like God in the presence of angels. The links between Jesus and Menachem are also found in Jewish texts and in the writings of the first century historian Josephus Flavius, which mention a messiah called Menachem. Several legends speak of a messiah of the same name who was born in Bethlehem, Knohl said. He also thinks that John the Baptist, believed by many scholars to be an Essene, exposed Jesus to Menachem's ideas. Menachem and Jesus were not only bound by ideology, but their lives and deaths also bore a number of similarities, Knohl said. Both were excommunicated by the rabbis of the day for their maverick views. Both were killed
Re: [CTRL] American Depravity by William Norman Grigg
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- On 4 Apr 00, at 18:33, Alamaine wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- The shame of it all is we are expected to foot the bill for whatever comes into the theatres. An interesting study of Hollyweird and its gaggle of silly geese can be seen on, paradoxically enough, the E! channel, most notably either via its Scandals or its True Hollywood Story series. There's an article somewhere dealing with whether or not the big 'stars' are worth the $$$ paid to them for their protrayal of life as we (are told we should) know it. My disenchantment with Hollyweird came about after learning that Jim Carrey makes about $20M a flick, for being a 'Pet Detective', no less. The wonderful thing about today's media is that you really can choose what you watch. You can tune in to Turner Classic Movies-- if you have cable-- and see all the Oscar winning movies that were, including the 1932 version of Midsummer Night's Dream with Mickey Rooney (as a kid) playing Puck and a young James Cagney playing Bottom (the Special Effects are stunning). Or Shirley Temple in The Bluebird--to mention only two of the least controversial films on a very long list. Or try Bravo, which runs quite a few golden oldies as well as some of the best independent films that have been produced recently. Given a ton of rain, I've been doing some movie catch-up. Two of the new releases on video that should appeal to someone on this list are The Brass Ring--with a film script about a presidential election and political corruption by Orson Welles-- and Arlington Road, with a script that seems to be based on the stories behind Ruby Ridge and the Oklahoma City bombing. Veerrry interesting. And for extras, there's The Thirteenth Warrior. I picked it up because it was the only relatively new release available one night at my local video store. I've been reading Seamus Heaney's new translation of Beowulf, the early classic of English literature. Imagine my surprise when I saw the story of Beowulf unfold onscreen. It credits a screenplay based on Michael Crichton's Eaters of the Dead. But Eaters of the Dead is Crichton's adaptation of Beowulf. And except for Banderos' role, all the elements of Heaney's translation are right there on the screen. And, in my opinion, fairly well done, too. Although I agree about the consolidation of the media which is giving the "packagable stars" outrageous salaries and leaving many, many fine actors with peanuts for pay, none of the above seemed particularly depraved to me. You still get to choose what you watch. sno0wl A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] American Depravity by William Norman Grigg
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- On 3 Apr 00, at 22:07, Bard wrote: American Beauty' is the most successful film adaptation yet of the strategy outlined in 'After the Ball, a 1989 blueprint for the mass media's campaign to normalize homosexual perversion. Gee, and here I thought it was a film about appearances, the veneer of respectability, American careerism and materialism, and making assumptions about people on insufficient information. Silly me. sno0wl A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: China
STRATFOR.COM's Global Intelligence Update - 05 April 2000 By The Internet's Most Intelligent Source of International News Analysis http://www.stratfor.com/ __ Know the every move of your competitors -- even before they do. Stratfor Intelligence Services http://www.stratfor.com/services/ __ WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR WORLD Have you visited our web site recently? We've made some new changes that make using the site more efficient, allowing greater access to thousands of reports. Visit http://www.stratfor.com today. __ STRATFOR.COM Global Intelligence Update 05 April 2000 China Moves to Eliminate Direct Sales Schemes Summary China's State Administration for Industry and Commerce issued a circular on April 3 banning direct sales activities in China. As with the ongoing crackdown on the Falun Gong, the banning of direct sales programs demonstrates the seriousness with which the Communist Party views any potential organized network. However, the current order resembles one issued in March 1998. It apparently has been ineffective in stopping the proliferation of such organized networks, emphasizing the limited ability of the party to deal with such organizations. Analysis China's State Administration for Industry and Commerce issued an April 3 circular banning direct sales schemes, according to the Xinhua News Agency. The circular calls for a crackdown by local law enforcement on various direct sales programs, warning that all those who confront the government or try to shift responsibility for participation will be punished. Beijing's attack on direct marketing schemes shows the seriousness with which China's Communist Party regards the level of threat posed by such ostensibly non-political organizations. More importantly, it demonstrates the inability of Beijing to control the formation of widespread yet tightly knit networks that have the potential for political exploitation. Direct sales schemes present China with two major problems. First, Eastern Europe, Russia - and particularly Albania in the spring of 1997 - set a precedent for such programs to be viewed as possible sources of economic and social instability. As well, several demonstrations and protests in major cities in China have been triggered over illegal investment schemes. (http://www.stratfor.com/asia/specialreports/special96.htm) Second, and more important, direct marketing organizations create tight-knit yet far-reaching networks with similar economic interests. By organizing around a common economic interest, the group also becomes a self-motivated political force, particularly when personal economic interests are challenged. This commonality of interest, revolving around the members' economic livelihood, also makes the groups susceptible to outside political manipulation. While the Chinese Democracy Party and other underground or dissident political organizations have an overt anti-Beijing agenda, direct marketing programs, unregistered religious organizations and groups like the Falun Gong can attract a more extensive network of participants from all levels of society. Membership does not require confrontation with the Chinese Communist Party, just a common desire for economic, spiritual or physical health. However, such innocuous groups, promoting tight bonds among members and encouraging group contact, can be easily persuaded to oppose Beijing when challenged. The ability of these groups to organize and act as a unit outside the scope of the Beijing's intelligence was vividly demonstrated by the Falun Gong's mass gathering outside the Communist Party headquarters in Beijing on April 25, 1999. (http://www.stratfor.com/asia/commentary/c9907201810.htm) Spurred by the public demonstration, Beijing has since embarked on an extensive, though not entirely effective, anti-Falun Gong campaign. Even during the heightened security of China's annual meeting of the National People's Congress in March, Falun Gong demonstrators continued to appear in Tiananmen Square. Beijing has been as unsuccessful in its attempts to block the formation of direct marketing schemes as it has been with the elimination of the Falun Gong. In May 1998, the State Administration for Industry and Commerce issued a similar order to ban direct marketing activities within a six-month period. The order triggered riots and demonstrations that left at least 10 dead, according to Hong Kong reports at the time. That such an order needs to be re-issued after two years is troubling for the Chinese government, as it reveals the inadequacy of its previous efforts to stop such activities. (http://www.stratfor.com/services/giu/050498.asp) Beijing's inability to block the proliferation of direct marketing schemes and the activities of the Falun Gong exposes a weakness in the Chinese Communist Party. Rifts within the Chinese leadership have been
[CTRL] Fwd: [MC] The Skulls, directed by Rob Cohen
Entertainment Weekly, Issue #12, page 8 starring Joshua Jackson, Paul Walker, and Leslie Bibb (snips) "such experience may come in handy if "The Skulls" raises any ire from its real-life Yale counterpart, Skull and Bones-a secret society that, like others in the Ivy League, graduates members to top power positions in business and government (presidential candidate Bush and his father are reportedly alums). Although (John) Pogue (screenwriter) says he intentionally kept the university in his screenplay generic, he drew on his own time at Yale. "I had both a repulsion and a perverse curiosity as to what actually goes one," says Pogue, who joined a secret society himself- although he won't say which one. "It's a little hypocritical on my part," he admits. In the end, Pogue expects to hear few grumbles from any real secret society-he feels he actually polished their image. "I believe there are things that have gone down in real life a lot worse than anything in this movie," he says ominously. An impressive boast, considering the movie features sexual favors, dueling, and death - all, of course, in the name of a good time. - - - - End of quote from Entertainment Weekly- - - - - KK's comments: I found parts of the movie triggering, only because I know that what was taking place could have really taken place. More to the point, the high tech utilized to watch Skull members at all times seemed dated, as TIs would know that the technology available is much more intrusive - this aspect was hinted at, but not shown. Possibly because Pogue has no idea what technology was utilized to "watch" Skull members. KK __ Post to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List info: www.topica.com/lists/mc. _ Enlighten your in-box. http://www.topica.com/t/15
[CTRL] FROM: THE UPI WIRE SERVICE: THE FOLLOWING TRUE STORY: Another Reason for Honest Citizens and Amateur Radio Operators ` Emergency Communications Save a Life.
From: Mike Balog [U.A.I.C.- VT.] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Special Receipent List: Date: Tuesday, April 4, 2000 22:30 Hrs. Dst. ET Subject: Another Reason for Honest Armed Citizens and Amateur Radio Operators ~ Emergeny Communications Save a Life: A True Story: * FROM: THE UPI WIRE SERVICE: THE FOLLOWING TRUE STORY: The U.S. Coast Guard says ham radio operators in Florida, Pennsylvania and other places played a major roles in getting help for a Dutch family whose teen-age son was shot and wounded by pirates off the Honduran coast last week. The harrowing adventure for the van Tuijls family began March 28. Their 44-foot sailboat was anchored with two other sailboats. Jacco van Tuijl and his 13-year-old son, Willem, were returning to their boat when they were attacked by a group of men in another boat, who opened fire on their dinghy. The boy was seriously wounded in the abdomen. Jacco van Tuijl said he pulled his bleeding son to their sailboat and used his radio to call for help. Two ham radio operators who are doctors helped the van Tuijls keep their son alive until they could rendezvous with a Honduran navy vessel, which had been contacted by the U.S. Coast Guard. The ham radio operators had called for the Coast Guard's help. Ham radio operator Ed Petzolt of Florida worked through the White House and the office of Rep. Pete Sessions, R-Texas, to get the visa clearances so the family could fly from Honduras to Dallas for treatment at Children's Medical Center's trauma center. Willem's kidneys and spinal cord were damaged by the gunshot, according to doctors. He has no feeling in his legs but doctors are hopeful he'll be able to walk again, a hospital spokesman said. The van Tuijl family had been cruising around the world since 1995 aboard their sailboat. -- Copyright 2000 by United Press International. All rights reserved. *" Liberal Interllectuals Arguements Against the 2nd Amendment Amount to Nothing More Than Intellectual Flatulence." * ~ Mike Balog - [U.A.I.C. - VT.] *** BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Balog;Mike FN:Mike Balog ORG:U.A.I.C. - VT. TITLE:Special Investigator - Intelligance TEL;WORK;VOICE:(802) 584-3588 TEL;HOME;VOICE:(802)584-3588 TEL;CELL;VOICE:KB1ELY = Amateur Radio Call Sign ADR;WORK:;;P.O. Box 932;Montpelier;Vermont;05602;Unuited States of America LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:P.O. Box 932=0D=0AMontpelier, Vermont 05602=0D=0AUnuited States of America ADR;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;P.O. Box 35=0D=0A;Groton;Vermont;05046;United States of America LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:P.O. Box 35=0D=0A=0D=0AGroton, Vermont 05046=0D=0AUnited States of America X-WAB-GENDER:2 EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:2405T053351Z END:VCARD
Re: [CTRL] CLINTON PULLS LEGAL STUNT IN WILLEY PRIVACY ACT MATTER
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- From: Mike [U.A.I.C.-VT.] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Prudy" re/ "Conspiracy Theory Research List" Date: Reply:[CTRL] CLINTON PULLS LEGAL STUNT IN WILLEY PRIVACY ACT MATTER: [As Came to Our Unfortunite Attention:] Hillary Clinton is one of the defendants in the lawsuit. According to sworn admissions by the White House, she furthered the President's crime by participating in the decision to release the letters as part of the effort to smear Willey. Yeah, I'm a little touchy about women sending letters requiring "privacy" to my husband, too. You know how it is with us wives. We just have no appreciation of all those damsels in distress. Prudy Talk about Life Imitating a Cheap Hollywood Movie Script: Prudy? Makes some sense, Hilterly as a "Defendant" using "Letters" to Smear Slick Willie? Would that be a "Scarlet Letter A" to Pin the Tail on the Donkey? Gee, Hummm I always thought according to Juris Prudence that a "Wife Could Not Testify Against her Husband" ~ Perhaps it Shouldn't Work that way in "Disgraceland". Well, it's only eight months till November. Maybe after that Prudy, we could "find an Nice Big Southern Pine Log" and get ole Willie Boy to paddle off Miami, to drift back to Havana for a "Producto". Remember the Maine Y'all LoL. ~ Damn Glad I sure as Hell Didn't Vote For Him !!! ~ Mike. * A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Italian plane flew through Syria, under radar to break Iraq embargo
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- http://english.hk.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/world/afp/article.html?s=hke/headlines/000404/world/afp/Italian_plane_flew_through_Syria__under_radar_to_break_Iraq_embargo.html Tuesday, April 4 9:04 PM SGT Italian plane flew through Syria, under radar to break Iraq embargo BAGHDAD, April 4 (AFP) - An Italian plane which broke a UN air traffic embargo on "Operation SOS Iraq People" flew through Syrian airspace to reach Baghdad after take-off from Amman, an Italian close to the project said Tuesday. The source, asking not to be named, said the pilot of the twin-engine light aircraft took advantage of "poor communications" with Syrian air traffic control to pursue Monday's journey. It also travelled "for five minutes" through a US- and British-patrolled "no-fly" zone in southern Iraq before landing at Baghdad's Al-Rashid military airport, he said. The plane swooped as low as 100 metres (300 feet) for parts of the journey to avoid detection by radar. The aircraft carried three Italian activists -- businessman Nicola Grauso, EuroMP Vittorio Sgarbi, journalist Massimo Santopaolo -- and French Roman Catholic priest and filmmaker Jean-Marie Benjamin. The pilot, Claudio Castagna, was also Italian. On Tuesday, they visited Baghdad's rundown hospitals and prepared for meeting with Iraqi officials, including Deputy Prime Minister Tareq Aziz. The team was to spend four days in Iraq. Their plane was the first to fly to the Iraqi capital in defiance of the sanctions imposed for the 1990 invasion of Kuwait, although other aircraft have made the trip to deliver aid with UN authorisation. Iraq's own aircraft broke the embargo in 1999, transporting pilgrims to Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Pilgrimage flights were this year authorised by the United Nations. The UN embargo "has caused more than 1,500,000 deaths, of which 500,000 were children ... We consider that the massacre of these innocent children is an infanticide," the activists said in a statement. They called for the "immediate and total lifting of the embargo against Iraq and ... rapid and effective aid for the country's reconstruction". A British anti-sanctions campaigner and MP, George Galloway, failed in mid-March to win UN authorisation for a flight from London to deliver medicine to Iraq. He planned to fly 207 people -- including journalists, aid workers, doctors and political activists to Baghdad -- along with the medical supplies worth 237,000 dollars. Most of the aid was delivered overland by truck from Amman instead. Iraq's Health Minister Umid Medhat Mubarak said on Monday at a meeting in Geneva of the UN Human Rights Commission that 80,000 children under the age of five had died in 1999 because of the embargo. The monthly average of deaths in the age group has reached 6,670, compared to only 593 in 1989 before the sanctions, he said. -- --- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml --- 1stUp.com - Free the Web® Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Messiah BEFORE Jesus
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- LOOKS TO ME LIKE YOU ALL FELL FOR AN INTELLECTUAL APRIL FOOLS JOKE ~ THIS WHOLE THING IS JUST A LOT OF INTELLECTUAL FLATULENCE ! ~ Mike ~ - Original Message - From: tenebroust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Messiah BEFORE Jesus -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I really like it when things like this come to light, because it causes people to question what they have been taught for years and to question the strength of their own beliefs. There are many possible interpretations that could come from this work, only one of which was explored by the scholar who wrote the book referenced in the e-mail below. It certainly sheds new light on those times, and that place in history. Where light is shed darkness and ignorance flees, this is a good thing. No? On Tue, 04 April 2000, William Shannon wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WIRE:04/01/2000 21:06:00 ET FEATURE-Was unknown messiah role model for Jesus? JERUSALEM, April 2 (Reuters) - An ancient Jewish messiah named Menachem may have been a hitherto unknown role model for Jesus Christ, according to an Israeli researcher. Israel Knohl, head of the Bible Department at Jerusalem's Hebrew University, explains his theory in his book, "The Messiah Before Jesus: The Suffering Servant of the Dead Sea Scrolls." The book stems from three years of research based on the "Thanksgiving scroll," which Knohl says was written by Menachem, leader of a first century extremist Jewish sect. It was one of seven scrolls and some 800 manuscripts found hidden in jars in caves close to the Dead Sea in the 1940s and 1950s. The scroll is damaged and Knohl believes that Menachem's ideas were so explosive that "someone, at some time" tried to ruin it. "I see here a mystery. If they wanted to preserve (the scroll) by putting it in the jar, why should someone squeeze it, disfigure it?" Knohl asked a recent theological conference. He said a closer look at Menachem could change the way Jesus has been seen for centuries. "Menachem saw himself as a suffering servant of God but also a divine messiah and son of man, concepts which scholars say did not coexist before Jesus," he said. "I say Jesus knew about Menachem. When Jesus came to the game there was already a theology that the messiah should suffer, be killed and come to life again." The theory strikes a blow at traditional scholarship that has cast Jesus as a preacher who was moulded into a messianic figure by followers only after his death. JESUS EMBODIED AN OLDER CONCEPT "The main group of New Testament scholars tend to say there was no concept of a suffering messiah in Judaism -- only a triumphant, glorious figure. But the idea was there before with Menachem," Knohl said. Many scholars believe the scrolls were written by the Essenes, an austere first century Jewish sect. Researchers believe the Essenes stored their sacred works, including copies of the Hebrew bible, Jewish writings, codes and literature, in clay jars to hide them from marauding Romans. By patching together "pieces from pieces" from two hymns in the Thanksgiving scroll and comparing them with other manuscripts of the same hymn found at the site, Knohl said he had unearthed the unprecedented claims of a suffering messiah. "I was shocked when I saw it," he said. As evidence, he points to hymns in the scroll in which the author not only equates himself to the Suffering Servant in the Book of Isaiah but also depicts himself sitting majestically like God in the presence of angels. The links between Jesus and Menachem are also found in Jewish texts and in the writings of the first century historian Josephus Flavius, which mention a messiah called Menachem. Several legends speak of a messiah of the same name who was born in Bethlehem, Knohl said. He also thinks that John the Baptist, believed by many scholars to be an Essene, exposed Jesus to Menachem's ideas. Menachem and Jesus were not only bound by ideology, but their lives and deaths also bore a number of similarities, Knohl said. Both were excommunicated by the rabbis of the day for their maverick views. Both were killed by the Romans and believed by their followers to have risen after their deaths. SCEPTICISM REMAINS Not everyone is convinced about Knohl's theory, however. Peter Pettit of Muhlenberg College in Pennsylvania likened Knohl to "an experienced guide," who "entices us all to dance on the thread of his argument." But Pettit told the Jerusalem theology conference that he was cautious about what he called the fragmentary nature of the texts and "narrowness of the sources." Knohl maintains that his theory provides a fuller picture of Jesus's identity than has
