[CTRL] The South Was Right. [new Website]

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In Retrospect, Many Honest MindedThinkers are now 
Reconsideringthe Causes Which the ConfederacyFought for and are 
Saying,"The South Was 
Right."
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[CTRL] It's unfortunate ...

2002-06-21 Thread Euphorian

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U.S. aid to Israel subsidizes a potent weapons exporter
Wed Jun 19, 9:37 PM ET

By JIM KRANE, AP Technology Writer

NEW YORK - At an arms trade fair in Paris this week, Israel showed the world's
military shoppers fruits of its high-tech arms industry, including its Merkava tank,
unmanned spy planes and the planet's most sophisticated missile defense system.


With its tourist industry all but shuttered by a 21-month Palestinian uprising and
high-tech in a slump, the Jewish state depends deeply on the foreign currency
earnings of its weapons industry, now the world's 10th largest.

Deftly marketed missiles, radar and other products from Israeli companies now
compete with those of top-tier arms producers including the United States, reaping
about dlrs 2 billion of a dlrs 27 billion yearly worldwide market, said Kuti Mor, 
deputy
director general of Israel's Ministry of Defense.

In France, Turkey, The Netherlands and Finland, Israeli companies have edged
such U.S. firms as Raytheon, Northrop Grumman and General Atomics out of arms
deals worth hundreds of millions of dollars in recent years.

The irony, experts say, is that tens of billions of U.S. tax dollars and transfers of
American military technology helped create and nurture Israel's industry, in effect
subsidizing a foreign competitor.

No other country receives as much U.S. aid or freedom to plow it into its own export
industries as Israel, say experts in academia, industry and the U.S. government.

It's allowed them to advance faster than Lockheed or Boeing or Hughes would
have liked, said David Lewis, a doctoral candidate at Rutgers University who has
researched Israel's defense industry for a forthcoming book.

While the United States gets certain benefits from its 50-year partnership with Israel
— political leverage, a proving ground for new weapons and intelligence
cooperation among them — critics point to a serious downside.

It's a new concept for most people. said Joel Johnson, a vice president at the
Aerospace Industries Association of America, which represents many of the largest
U.S. arms producers. We give them money to build stuff for themselves and the
U.S. taxpayer gets nothing in return.

The rationale, said Richard Fisher, a defense analyst with the Jamestown
Foundation, is that Washington is willing to sacrifice some defense industry
competitiveness in order to give Israel incentive to make peace.

Supporters of Israel tend to view the transfers of U.S. technology and funds as good
for both countries' economies, akin to post-World War II assistance for Europe and
Japan.

It's true that Israel sometimes competes with the U.S., but so do all those
countries, said Mark Regev, a spokesman at the Israeli Embassy in Washington,
D.C. Is it that different than American aid to Japan, or the Marshall Plan in western
Europe?

Beyond competing with U.S. armaments, Israeli weapons also flow to countries off-
limits to American companies. Its weapons buttress the arsenals of nations such as
China that the United States considers strategic competitors, alarming U.S. military
planners.

Last year, U.S. surveillance planes flying along China's coast were threatened by
Chinese fighter jets armed with Israeli missiles.

During the series of airborne confrontations, a Chinese jet crashed after colliding
with a U.S. spy plane, killing the Chinese pilot and disabling the U.S. plane. The
incident sparked a bitter diplomatic row as China detained the American crew for 11
days.

Had Chinese fighter pilots been given the order to fire, they could have brought
down the U.S. planes with Israeli Python III missiles.

U.S. technology given to the Israelis in the form of the Sidewinder missile was used
in the development of the Python, said Larry Wortzel, former U.S. Army attache in
Beijing and now a military analyst at the Heritage Foundation.

U.S. defense chiefs say Israel sold China the missiles without informing the United
States.

Generally speaking, we're not in favor of such capable weapons systems being
proliferated to a variety of nations around the world, Rear Adm. Craig Quigley said
in a Pentagon ( news -  web sites) briefing last year. That's a good missile, and its
capabilities are considerable.

In 2000, Israel bowed to U.S. pressure and canceled the sale to China of its
AWACS-style airborne early warning radar planes. The director general of Israel's
finance ministry, Ohad Marani, said Israel typically discusses arms sales with the
Americans.

We don't sell systems that upset the Pentagon, Marani said.

Israel's arms industry nevertheless continues to put great emphasis on the Chinese
market, hawking its spy planes and radar systems at recent trade shows in Beijing
and Singapore.

China may unveil as early as this year its new J-10 jet fighter, which experts say is
modeled on Israel's Lavi. The Lavi, now discontinued, 

[CTRL] Global Warming, Pests Gaining

2002-06-21 Thread Euphorian

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From http://www.guardian.co.uk/globalwarming/story/0,7369,741074,00.html

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World sickens as heat rises

Infections in wildlife spread as pests thrive in climate change

Tim Radford, science editor
Friday June 21, 2002
The Guardian

Climate change is favouring pests and parasites and triggering widespread
outbreaks of disease in wildlife, according to US scientists.

Warmer summers and milder winters are encouraging disease- bearing infections
that blight coral reefs, kill shellfish colonies, and threaten lions, cranes, vultures 
and
even ferrets. The global warming is also helping to spread tropical diseases to
human habitations previously unaffected by such illnesses, they report in the journal
Science today.

This is not just a question of coral bleaching for a few marine ecologists, nor just a
question of malaria for a few health officials. The number of similar increases in
disease incidence is astonishing, said Richard Ostfield, of the Institute for
Ecosystem Studies, in Millbrook, New York.

Andrew Dobson, of Princeton University, said: The accumulation of evidence has
us extremely worried. We share diseases with some of these species. The risk for
humans is going up.

Frosts and cool periods can cut insect, parasite and fungus pest populations by up
to 99%. But mellow winters, followed by long spells of warmth and humidity, provide
perfect conditions for their survival.

Ecologists and health officials began predicting years ago that mosquitoes, ticks,
rodents, viruses, fungi and bacteria were likely to spread into other areas as
temperatures rose, with potentially devastating effects on wildlife. In Hawaii, avian
malaria has already wiped out native song birds living below an altitude of 1,400
metres (4,500ft); 30 years ago, the malarial mosquitoes only survived up to an
altitude of 800 metres.

The team, led by Drew Harvell, of the ecology and evolutionary biology department
at Cornell University, also used the hotspots of El Nino - the dramatic cyclic
increase in the warmth of the tropical Pacific ocean that also affects African and
American climate patterns - as a guide to climate trends.

The scientists looked at the massive die-off of corals during the unusually warm El
Nino year of 1998. Much of the coral had died from fungal and other diseases
thriving in warmer seas.

Oysters in Maine, in the US, had been blighted by parasites normally restricted to
more southerly waters. Lions in the Serengeti had suffered canine distemper, and
cranes, vultures and even wild American ferrets had been hit by disease outbreaks.
The monarch butterfly came under pressure from an exploding parasite population.

Rift valley fever, a devastating viral illness of cattle and humans, spread by
mosquitoes, also spread during the hot El Nino year of 1998. In a warmer world,
such events could occur more regularly: viruses in the mosquito population would
multiply , and so too would the mosquitoes.

The scientists fear that the spread of tropical infections to temperate zones could
have even more calamitous effects. The tropics, compared with other geographical
regions, have a richer variety of species and fewer individuals in each species;
diversity acts as a buffer to the spread of disease.

But temperate zones have a smaller range of species, with greater numbers in
each, so pathogens moving into the temperate zones could affect a few common
and abundant susceptible species.

And human destruction of biodiversity makes this a double whammy. It means we
are exacerbating the problem, said Dr Dobson. We have to get serious about
global change. It is not only going to be a warmer world, it is going to be a sicker
world.
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[CTRL] DynCorp Disgrace

2002-06-21 Thread Steve Wingate

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Insight on the News - National
Issue: 06/24/02

DynCorp Disgrace
By Kelly Patricia O'Meara

Middle-aged men having sex with 12- to 15-year-olds was too much for
Ben Johnston, a hulking 6-foot-5-inch Texan, and more than a year ago
he blew the whistle on his employer, DynCorp, a U.S. contracting
company doing business in Bosnia.
According to the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organization Act (RICO)
lawsuit filed in Texas on behalf of the former DynCorp aircraft
mechanic, in the latter part of 1999 Johnston learned that employees
and supervisors from DynCorp were engaging in perverse, illegal and
inhumane behavior [and] were purchasing illegal weapons, women,
forged passports and [participating in] other immoral acts. Johnston
witnessed coworkers and supervisors literally buying and selling
women for their own personal enjoyment, and employees would brag
about the various ages and talents of the individual slaves they had
purchased.

Rather than acknowledge and reward Johnston's effort to get this
behavior stopped, DynCorp fired him, forcing him into protective
custody by the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Division (CID) until
the investigators could get him safely out of Kosovo and returned to
the United States. That departure from the war-torn country was a far
cry from what Johnston imagined a year earlier when he arrived in
Bosnia to begin a three-year U.S. Air Force contract with DynCorp as
an aircraft-maintenance technician for Apache and Blackhawk
helicopters.

For more than 50 years DynCorp, based in Reston, Va., has been a
worldwide force providing maintenance support to the U.S. military
through contract field teams (CFTs). As one of the federal
government's top 25 contractors, DynCorp has received nearly $1
billion since 1995 for these services and has deployed 181 personnel
to Bosnia during the last six years. Although DynCorp long has been
respected for such work, according to Johnston and internal DynCorp
communications it appears that extracurricular sexcapades on the part
of its employees were tolerated by some as part of its business in
Bosnia.

But DynCorp was nervous. For instance, an internal e-mail from
DynCorp employee Darrin Mills, who apparently was sent to Bosnia to
look into reported problems, said, I met with Col. Braun [a base
supervisor] yesterday. He is very concerned about the CID
investigation; however, he views it mostly as a DynCorp problem. What
he wanted to talk about most was how I am going to fix the
maintenance problems here and how the investigation is going to
impact our ability to fix his airplanes. The Mills e-mail
continued: The first thing he told me is that 'they are tired of
having smoke blown up their ass.' They don't want anymore empty
promises.

An e-mail from Dyncorp's Bosnia site supervisor, John Hirtz (later
fired for alleged sexual indiscretions), explains DynCorp's position
in Bosnia. The bottom line is that DynCorp has taken what used to be
a real positive program that has very high visibility with every Army
unit in the world and turned it into a bag of worms. Poor quality was
the major issue.

Johnston was on the ground and saw firsthand what the military was
complaining about. My main problem, he explains, was [sexual
misbehavior] with the kids, but I wasn't too happy with them ripping
off the government, either. DynCorp is just as immoral and elite as
possible, and any rule they can break they do. There was this one guy
who would hide parts so we would have to wait for parts and, when the
military would question why it was taking so long, he'd pull out the
part and say 'Hey, you need to install this.' They'd have us replace
windows in helicopters that weren't bad just to get paid. They had
one kid, James Harlin, over there who was right out of high school
and he didn't even know the names and purposes of the basic tools.
Soldiers that are paid $18,000 a year know more than this kid, but
this is the way they [DynCorp] grease their pockets. What they say in
Bosnia is that DynCorp just needs a warm body — that's the DynCorp
slogan. Even if you don't do an eight-hour day, they'll sign you in
for it because that's how they bill the government. It's a total
fraud.

Remember, Johnston was fired by this company. He laughs bitterly
recalling the work habits of a DynCorp employee in Bosnia
who weighed 400 pounds and would stick cheeseburgers in his pockets
and eat them while he worked. The problem was he would literally fall
asleep every five minutes. One time he fell asleep with a torch in
his hand and burned a hole through the plastic on an aircraft. This
same man, according to Johnston, owned a girl who couldn't have been
more than 14 years old. It's a sick sight anyway to see any grown man
[having sex] with a child, but to see some 45-year-old man who weighs
400 pounds with a little girl, it just makes you sick. It is

[CTRL] The Challenge is Accepted !!!

2002-06-21 Thread Euphorian

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From http://www.middleeastwire.com:8080/storypage.jsp?id=12534

Well, W and Toony turned down Omar's challenge of AKs at 100 whatevers;
now we'll see what the second round will bring

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Fri Jun 21 04:05:33 EDT 2002

Saddam gives security, Baath party power to kill opponents
Publisher: Iraq Press (London)
By:
Posted: 2002-06-20











Sulaimaniya - President Saddam Hussein has ordered his security services and
members of his ruling Baath party to shoot and kill anyone suspected of planning
hostile action against his government.

Most party members, who according to official statistics number about one million,
carry guns and mount armed patrols in residential neighborhoods throughout the
country.

But their loyalty is not certain as many of them pointed their guns at Saddam's
troops during uprisings that took place shortly after the 1991 Gulf War over Kuwait.

A source refusing to be named told Iraq Press that Saddam's order was issued
recently and has been conveyed to the security services and party branches across
the country.

He said Saddam has taken all the precautionary measures to prevent a repetition of
the post-Gulf War uprising, which saw the collapse of his administration in 14 out of
Iraq's 18 provinces.

Saddam has been holding regular meetings with his Baath party leaders, army
commanders and intelligence and security officers on how to preserve his grip on
power if the United States mounts a military attack to change his regime.

Shoot and kill at random once you sense the slightest smell of dissent, the source
said of the latest instructions.

Saddam has also pledged to protect army, security or party personnel killing
dissenters from prosecution. The source said Iraqi courts are under instructions to
overlook such incidents.

The instructions come at a time Saddam has substantially increased his bonuses to
associates. Travelers say Saddam has recently given huge amounts of money, cars
and plots of land to senior officers in the armed forces and the Baath party.

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[CTRL] The Bourne (Lack of) Identity

2002-06-21 Thread Euphorian

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From http://www.sierratimes.com/02/06/21/rockyd.htm

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Politically Incorrect Movie Reviews
The Bourne Identity
by RadioFree Rocky D
Published 06. 21. 02 at 0:19 Sierra Time

Cast:

Matt Damon (Jason Bourne) – badass baby-
faced baddie-bopper.

Franka Potente (Marie) – mixed-up maiden mad for man-boy.

Chris Cooper (Conklin) – caustic Caucasian causing calamities.

Brian Cox (Abbott) – Dick Cheney doppelganger.

Adewale Akinnouye-Agabaje (Wombasi) – anarchist African antagonist.

Julia Stiles (Nicolette) – sexy spy secretary.

Clive Owen (Professor) – the spy who stayed out in the cold.

 Faced with a choice of seeing  Windtalkers (the noble Injun saves Pale Face’s
useless hide, even though he does NOT deserve it); Scooby Doo (updated to
indoctrinate your kids into the world of accepted lesbianism and recreational drugs)
and The Bourne Identity; I chose the latter, because everyone likes a good spy flick
… that is unless the main character is an amnesiac who cannot figure out who he is.
Let’s see … you have more fake passports than Osama bin Laden, secret laser
gizmos implanted in you, automatically open up a can-o-whoop on anyone who
comes near and you’re being followed by black-suited assassins. Hmm … ya don’t
suppose maybe you’re a spy or something, do you Einstein? DUH! He’s The
Talented Mr. Ripley who has no idea how he got so talented. Double DUH!

 Therein lies the problem with The Bourne Identity. I reckon amnesia is quite
disconcerting on a personal level and I don’t mind suspending belief on a common
sense scale (that’s half the fun of the movies), but I gotta believe that a guy who
remembers deadly hand-to-hand combat maneuvers, can speak several languages,
has a lock box full of foreign currency and wakes up with bullet holes in his back
would remember being a spy.

 This guy is the Hillary Clinton of the espionage set: “I don’t recall … hmm … 
I
dunno … I can’t say for sure …but don’t forget to buy my memoirs”.

 The story starts out as Damon is plucked out of the Mediterranean Sea by a
French fishing trawler named Aventure, which is French for “adventure.” The boat
should’ve been named Nous Refusé Savon (we refuse soap), by the looks of the
crew. It is here that we find out that our hero has no memory, yet he can do all sorts
of really cool stuff. This is in addition to the laser gizmo sliced out of his skin.
Perhaps because the French tend to accept anyone who looks in need of a bath and
a shave, the sailors never attempt to radio shore.

 Caucasian fishermen are stupid and evil because they trap innocent happy
dolphins in their tuna nets. Non-Caucasian fishermen only use dolphin safe nets.
Non- Caucasians are at one with The Sea. White men pollute and ruin the oceans. I
know this, because Hollyweird tells me so.

On land, Damon heads to the first American flag he sees (I thought he had
amnesia?) and ends up in line at some bumbling bureaucratic office where
everyone has trouble with their visas. What? Foreign countries give visitors flack
about their visas? Well, not here in the good ol’ U.S. of A., by cracky. Y’all just
wander in over our borderlines (we won’t look). Just come on in. We’ll give you a
visa; hell we’ll even approve your student loan after you’ve already flown a jetliner
into a building. Flack over visas? Pish-tosh, not us; that would be intolerant of
multicultural diversity. Wouldn’t want to rile the ACLU with profiling, now would we?

 After opening up a can of RoboDamon 2002 whoop ass and scaling a building
ala Spiderman, Damon meets up with The Girl. They go on what can only be
described as the world’s smallest car chase, with Damon outrunning multiple cop
cruisers and two motorcycles in a Cooper Mini. For those of you who don’t know
what a Cooper Mini is, think golf cart with a hard top. For those of you who think that
you can escape anything in a Cooper Mini, think this – not!

 “I don’t like her. She’s not on the radar,” says one of the creepy spies. 
That’s
Big Brother for you – not happy when they cannot monitor you 24-7. And naturally,
with the world full of Middle Eastern terrorists, we need to be monitoring European
Caucasians. After all, we all know the rise of the Fourth Reich is right around the
corner and that there are Nazi’s behind every bush (see Sum Of All Fears review).

 By now, Damon has figured out that he’s some kind of bad guy, and that even
badder guys are trying to make Swiss cheese out of him. The even badder guys are
the CIA, of course. And who are the baddest of bad guys in the CIA? Why, Evil
Caucasian Capitalists! One of the guys even looks like Dick Cheney. This is
Hollyweird’s way of telling us that he is the really bad guy. After all, George  Dick
stole the White House from that nice man who kisses his wife all the time.

 Bad George  Dick! Bad bad bad!

The other bad Whitey is terrific character actor Chris Cooper (the mean ex-Marine
in American 

[CTRL] POLICE STATE USA (fwd)

2002-06-21 Thread William Bacon

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None are more hopelessly enslaved than
those who falsely believe they are free.
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Central control of Police is the definition of the Police State.
At this moment, local police are being converted into FEDERAL MARSHALS.

This could only be a preparation for the imposition of MARSHAL LAW.
MARSHAL LAW involves the suspension of the constitution.

A police state exists when federal and state police mechanisms:

1. Serve the central government instead of serving the citizens
2. Enforce the policies of the central government instead of responding
   primarily to criminal misdeeds
3. Spy on and intimidate citizens

All these conditions now exist in the United States!

In a free society, police agencies respond to evidence of planned and actual
criminal activity.

Police officers in a free society keep the peace; they do not investigate
citizens and activities unless there is some reason to investigate.

* In a free society, police do not investigate citizens' attitudes toward
  the central government, only their action.

* Citizen dissent is lawful in a free society and police agencies do not
  investigate citizens' attitudes toward the criminal justice apparatus.

Those conditions no longer exist in the United States!

Under the former 1989 Guidelines, the FBI first had to obtain evidence
suggesting some kind of criminal activity before its agents could begin
investigating. Under the FBI's new May 30, 2002 revised Guidelines, FBI
agents are authorized to carry out general topical research and retain
files on this research. Specifically, agents may conduct online searches
and visit online sites and forums as part of such research.

The new Guidelines warn against searching for information by individuals'
names or other individual identifiers, but it's okay to search by names to
locate names of authors who write on the topic that the agent is
researching. Of course every citizen of the United States is a possible
author of e-mail messages on a variety of subjects, so all U.S. citizens
are potential terrorism suspects under these new guidelines.

The new Guidelines now encourage the FBI to snoop around looking for people
who might be suspicious, creating files on anyone who catches their fancy.
Agents can now investigate people, organizations, websites, chat rooms and
forums for any reason or for no reason at all. They can enter your home
without a warrant and are not required to inform you that they have invaded
your home if you are not present.

All the records they create in their investigations will be placed in
national databases available to all agencies now under the new Homeland
Security umbrella. Never in U.S. history has there been such a monolithic
surveillance mechanism with the terrible power to destroy American citizens'
lives.

The 1989 and the new 2002 Guidelines expressly state that the FBI must not
launch investigations based solely on [citizens'] activities protected by
the First Amendment or on the lawful exercise of any other [federal or
Constitutional] rights. Do you see your local FBI agent as having a clear
enough understanding of constitutional rights to keep him from investigating
people whom he identifies as having terrorist proclivities?

Scores of U.S. cities are now using surveillance television camera systems
to spy on citizens--shades of 1984. With video cameras perched atop
buildings and poles, watching whatever American are doing, do you suppose
there might be some potential for abuse in such systems? Christian
Parenti's, article, DC's Virtual Panopticon, in the June 3, 2002 issue of
The Nation describes how police in Detroit and DC have used CCTV
[closed-circuit television] to stalk personal foes, political opponents and
young women. Smile, you're on Kandid Kamera.

To justify its expanding obliteration of constitutional liberties, the Bush
administration uses the most insane brand of logic--which should outrage
American citizens:

* Why did the intelligence agencies fail to detect or prevent 9/11? Because
they didn't have enough money. So we'll give them billions more.

* Why is the F.B.I. still failing in its fight against terrorism? Because
the rights of American citizens are preventing the agency from carrying out
its job. So we'll set up new Guidelines and take away more constitutional
rights of citizens.

* Why is it unnecessary for the Bush administration to provide records to
Congress concerning Enron or prior knowledge of possible terrorist attacks?
Because we're in a state of war and the executive branch must not be
hamstrung by witch 

[CTRL] SNET: Constitutional Limitations on Taxing Power (fwd)

2002-06-21 Thread William Bacon

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Constitutional Limitations on Taxing Power
In order to understand why paying income tax and filing tax forms are
voluntary actions for individuals, it is essential to understand the
limitations on federal taxation embodied in the United States Constitution.
The statesmen who wrote the Constitution were fully aware of the dangers to
liberty in allowing a central government to impose taxes directly upon
individuals or upon property.

The framers of the Constitution included not one, but two limitations in the
Constitution that forbid the federal government to impose any direct taxes
upon individuals or upon property. All direct taxes are required to be
apportioned, which means that they must be laid upon the state governments
in proportion to each states population.  Another words, if one person owes
$10, all persons owe $10 not $10,000 or $100,000.

The limitations forbidding direct taxation of individuals are found first in
Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3, which states: Representatives and direct
Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included
within this Union, according to their respective Numbers... and again in
Article 1, Section 9, Clause 4, which states: No Capitation, or other direct
Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration here in
before directed to be taken. These basic sections of the Constitution have
never been repealed or amended. The Constitution still forbids direct
taxation of individuals and property.

In the past, America prospered and became the greatest and richest country in
the world when individuals paid no income tax and governments revenues were
raised by constitutionally authorized taxes on certain goods and services and
on corporations. But now, money is taken from the productive sector of
society by the income tax to support the non-productive sector, foreign aid,
give-aways and a bloated, needless bureaucracy. The income tax paid by
citizens sharply reduces their earnings, thus they buy less, causing business
to decline, leading to unemployment and depression which lowers the standard
of living for all Americans. The income tax has created havoc in America's
economy, in addition to the loss of liberty and the harassment of our people
by the IRS's oppressive collection tactics.  The collection of the income tax
enforced by fear and intimidation, it is as un-American as the origin of the
income tax itself. A graduated income tax is the second plank of Karl Marx
Communist Manifesto. Deceiving citizens into voluntarily subjecting
themselves to a tax they do not owe is FRAUD. And when individuals who do
voluntarily subject themselves to the income (excise) tax by filing returns,
have assessments of tax laid on them directly by the IRS, it is a blatant
violation of the constitutional limitation forbidding the direct taxation of
individuals. If the IRS then confiscates the individuals wages or property by
levy and seizure to settle the unconstitutionally laid tax claims, the action
is pure theft under color of law.

The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land. It was written to
create a government of limited powers for the primary purpose of securing
citizens rights to life, liberty and property. The Declaration of
Independence states that it is the duty of citizens to oppose and resist
abuses of their rights.These violations of citizens rights can be stopped if
enough people become informed of these facts.

The Constitution is a precious document of our heritage of freedom. Its
guarantees of liberty are only as effective as the will of the people to
enforce them.

Your labor is your property. Knowledge will give you the power to protect and
enjoy all the fruits of your labors.

Make no mistake what the founding fathers would do today if they were serving
in Congress. Impeachment proceedings would begin this very day and continue
night and day. Those not impeached would be hanged for treason.

Wake Up America Today, the Congress and the President, and the
entire judicial system is a disgrace to our country.

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[CTRL] Saudis airlifted hundreds of Al Qaida from Iran

2002-06-21 Thread klewis

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http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_9.htm
l

Saudis airlifted hundreds of Al Qaida from Iran

SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Wednesday, June 19, 2002
ABU DHABI — Saudi Arabia has airlifted hundreds of Al
Qaida militants home
from Iran this year.

Gulf and Saudi opposition sources said the airlift
began in January. They
said Iran granted Riyad permission to send Saudi
government jets to evacuate
hundreds of Al Qaida and Taliban members detained by
Iran. The Saudi
nationals were fleeing approaching U.S. troops in
Afghanistan.

Saudi nationals were said to have comprised a
significant portion of the
estimated 10,000 Al Qaida agents who had been based in
Afghanistan, Middle
East Newsline reported. Fifteen of the 19 suicide
attackers on New York and
Washington on Sept. 11 were Saudis.

The sources said many of the Saudis escaped Afghanistan
by fleeing over the
Iranian border where some of them were detained. They
said those airlifted
from Iran were regarded as Al Qaida members linked to
the royal family.
Lower-ranking Saudi nationals were granted safe passage
through Iran to the
port of Bandar Abbas, where they arrived to the kingdom
by sea. Other
Saudis — particularly those who served as aides to
Osama Bin Laden — were
informed that they were no longer welcomed in the
kingdom and were directed
to other destinations in the Middle East, particularly
North Africa. This
included Saudi national Abu Zbeir Al Haili, captured by
Morocco and said to
have been a leading Al Qaida operative.

At one point, the sources said, Teheran had detained
close to 200 Saudi
nationals. But earlier this year, Teheran agreed to a
Saudi offer to
evacuate the imprisoned nationals. This prompted an
airlift from eastern
Iran to the Saudi city of Medina.

Saudi Arabia has acknowledged the return of Al Qaida
members to the kingdom.
On Tuesday, an Interior Ministry statement announced
the arrest of 11
nationals on charges of planning attacks throughout the
kingdom, including
U.S. military targets. An Iraqi and Sudanese national
were also arrested.

Officials said the Sudanese national was extradited
from Khartoum after he
escaped the kingdom through Iraq. The officials said
Riyad has not
determined whether Iraqi authorities were linked to the
Al Qaida plot. The
security agencies have arrested elements linked to Al
Qaida who were
planning to carry out terrorist attacks against vital
installations in the
kingdom using explosives and two SA-7 missiles, the
Saudi Press Agency
quoted an Interior Ministry official as saying.

The London-based Al Hayat daily reported on Wednesday
that the SA-7 missiles
and other Al Qaida weapons were smuggled into Saudi
Arabia from neighboring
Yemen. The 1,100-kilometer Saudi-Yemeni border has been
used as an escape
route for Al Qaida militants who fled Afghanistan.

Saudi officials said some of the Al Qaida detainees
were regarded as sleeper
agents.

Earlier, the ministry released 160 Saudi nationals
deemed as not posing a
threat to the country. The Saudi-owned Al Hayat daily
described the men as
having fought alongside Taliban in the U.S.-led war in
Afghanistan.
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Re: [CTRL] The problem is with the people

2002-06-21 Thread Prudy L

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In a message dated 6/20/02 11:12:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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 The glib answer: how many times have the Palestinians recognized Israel's
 right to exist? Hell - even the Saudi proposal's big offer is for Arab
 states to recognize Israel.

 He deeper answer - I Think when Rabin and Arafat met to sign Oslo at the
 Whitehouse, they both officially recognized each other as ;legitimate
 statesmen. 

Both answers are true, but my statement still stands.  Israel will never
allow a Palestinian state.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Israeli TV Companies Weigh Taking CNN Off the Air

2002-06-21 Thread Prudy L

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 Thu Jun 20, 7:39 AM ET By Tova Cohen TEL AVIV (Reuters) - Israeli
television
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 protest at comments made by U.S. media mogul Ted Turner, officials and
 sources at the companies said on Thursday 

And well they should.  No criticism of Israel should ever be allowed.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] It's unfortunate ...

2002-06-21 Thread Prudy L

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In a message dated 6/21/02 3:56:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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 Beyond competing with U.S. armaments, Israeli weapons also flow to
countries off-
 limits to American companies. Its weapons buttress the arsenals of nations
such as
 China that the United States considers strategic competitors, alarming U.S.
military
 planners.

 Last year, U.S. surveillance planes flying along China's coast were
threatened by
 Chinese fighter jets armed with Israeli missiles. 

Come, come.  I hear Israel described as our only ally in the Middle East at
least once a day.   Perhaps we'll take our base out of Saudi Arabia and put
it in Israel.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] The problem is with the people

2002-06-21 Thread thew

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Prudy -

If Arafat hadn't backed out in Jan 2001 we would already be building a
Palestinian state. You cannot leave negotiations because you do not get 100%
of what you want - that¹s not the nature of negotiations.


on 6/21/02 10:00 AM, Prudy L at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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  The glib answer: how many times have the Palestinians recognized Israel's
 right to exist? Hell - even the Saudi proposal's big offer is for Arab
 states to recognize Israel.

 He deeper answer - I Think when Rabin and Arafat met to sign Oslo at the
 Whitehouse, they both officially recognized each other as ;legitimate
 statesmen. 

 Both answers are true, but my statement still stands.  Israel will never
 allow a Palestinian state.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] The problem is with the people

2002-06-21 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 6/20/02 8:12:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 He deeper answer - I Think when Rabin and Arafat met to sign Oslo at the
Whitehouse, they both officially recognized each other as ;legitimate
statesmen. 

These two are politicians, they will say anything to anybody and shake
anyhand as long as there is a camera there to record it. Do they recognize
each other as legitimate statesmen, I doubt it. They would prefer the other
dead.

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Re: [CTRL] The problem is with the people

2002-06-21 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 6/21/02 7:28:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If Arafat hadn't backed out in Jan 2001 we would already be building a

Palestinian state. You cannot leave negotiations because you do not get 100%

of what you want - that1s not the nature of negotiations. 

Arafat backed out, not because he didn't get 100% of what he wanted, but
because the hidden agenda is the total distruction of the Israeli state.
Arafat enters into negotiations only to buy time when he gets himself into a
corner. The arab map of the middle east does not include an Israeli State.

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[CTRL] Fwd: The secret plan to rule the politcal world-karl rove

2002-06-21 Thread RoadsEnd

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great article-check it out

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/wed/opinion/news_1e19dowd.html


deacon
www.newschatinn.com


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[CTRL] Fwd: Fw: Mary Schiavo heads 9-11 lawsuit against American Airlines

2002-06-21 Thread RoadsEnd

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Schiavo was one of the lawyers who spoke at the press 
conference sponsored by www.unansweredquestions.org. 
I listened to the audio at the website yesterday.




  From: 
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Mary Schiavo heads 9-11 lawsuit 
  against American Airlines
  Noticed on WhatReallyHappened.com --http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28012Flight 
  11 stewardess' kin to sue American AirlinesLawyers say family members 'no 
  longer trust' carrier 'to tell truth'about Flight 11 hijackingsBy Paul 
  Sperry - © 2002 WorldNetDaily.comJune 19, 2002WASHINGTON – 
  Relatives of a flight attendant who may have been knifed todeath by 
  hijackers aboard American Airlines Flight 11 "no longer trust"the carrier 
  to tell them the truth about what happened to her, and haveretained 
  lawyers to investigate and sue American for negligence,WorldNetDaily has 
  learned.The planned litigation would mark the first lawsuit filed 
  against anairline by relatives of a crewmember slain in the Sept. 11 
  hijackings."It nags them that they do not know what the actual real 
  fate of theirloved one was," said a member of the law firm of Baum Hedlund 
  AristeiGuilford  Schiavo, which is handling the case. "They no longer 
  trustAmerican Airlines to tell them the truth."He says the family 
  wants "answers" more than money. "They also want toknow who's at fault," 
  he said. "Who's accountable for security lapses?"The unique case – led 
  by Baum Hedlund partner Mary F. Schiavo, a formerTransportation Department 
  inspector general – is one of several new Sept.11 lawsuits the Los Angeles 
  firm, which also has offices here, ispreparing to file over the next few 
  weeks. The personal-injury firm,which specializes in major accidents, 
  already represents 32 families ofpassengers killed in the 
  hijackings.The Baum Hedlund source would not name the slain American 
  flightattendant, but says her sister has information indicating she 
  wasmurdered by hijackers in a struggle aboard Flight 11, which hit Tower 
  Oneafter leaving Boston.From accounts of a chilling phone call 
  made from the plane, hijackersslit the throats of two flight attendants 
  who tried to bar them fromentering the cockpit, as WorldNetDaily first 
  reported late Sept. 11.Madeline Amy Sweeney, in a frantic conversation 
  with her Americansupervisor, Michael Woodward, on the ground at Logan 
  InternationalAirport, identified the slain attendants by their crew 
  numbers.Head flight attendant Karen Martin was one of the brave women 
  who triedto protect the pilots. The other has yet to be publicly named, 
  andAmerican has withheld information from relatives seeking 
  confirmation,the law firm source says.He says Shiavo plans to ask 
  for Woodward's original notes of hisconversation with Sweeney, which 
  apparently was not recorded, as part ofdiscovery in the 
  case.American spokesman John Hotard says he does not know where the 
  originalnotes are."I've never seen them. I don't know if they went 
  to the FBI, or if a copywent to the FBI," he said in a recent 
  WorldNetDaily interview. "But theFBI got a hold of them very quickly, and 
  wrote a summary."A confidential Federal Aviation Administration 
  executive summary of thehijackings, written Sept. 11, mentions two crew 
  members being stabbed,but then goes on to detail the shooting of a 
  passenger – naming both thehijacker, who allegedly fired a single shot, 
  and the victim, asWorldNetDaily also first reported.Families 
  members have complained to lawyers that the FBI has been 

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Catherine is supposed to be driving to Point Arena 
today.(see schedule below) I don't know if she's still with 
Bernstein or with Gail Taylor. Her sister sent me her schedule. 
Chamba Lane http://www.kvmr.org/personalities/c_lane.html 
He's been broadcasting at KVMR since 1993 raising hackles and rousing the rabble 
to, "Follow the Constitution and take back our government!"

SUNDAY, JUNE 23rd
Drive to Nevada City; arrive by 4:30
Speech with Chamba Lane 

Ah, here it is-- http://www.kvmr.org/EventsSchedule.html


  
  
KVMR  the Center for the Arts present
  
Up Close  Personal 
  WithCatherine Austin Fitts
  
Sunday, June 23 at 6:30 PM at the Center for the 
  Arts
  
Catherine Austin Fitts
On Sunday, June 23 at 6:30 p.m., KVMR in cooperation with the Northern 
  California Center for the Arts, presents an evening guaranteed to be 
  enlightening and thought-provoking, with Catherine Austin Fitts at the 
  Center for the Arts, 314 West Main Street in Grass Valley.
  

  Catherine was Assistant Secretary of Housing under the first Bush 
  administration, a Wall Street investment banker, and is currently 
  president of Solari (solari.com), an 
  organization seeking to foster positive social change by offering 
  solutions for the restoration of our democratic republic. She has recently 
  been featured on "Rabble Rousing" with Chamba Lane, Wednesdays at noon 
  here on KVMR. The 
  previous 3 programs have been recorded and archived here for your 
  review.
  Catherine is a noted author and lecturer who learned first-hand that 
  HUD is being run as a criminal enterprise. She explains in detail how your 
  tax dollars are being stolen from agencies such as HUD and the Department 
  of Defense, and laundered through corporate criminal enterprises such as 
  Enron. She authored the illuminating article "Narco Dollars for 
  Beginners", detailing how to follow the money trail, and highlighting the 
  fact that American communities are more addicted to narco dollars than to 
  any drug. Catherine holds an MBA in Finance from the Wharton School, 
  University of Pennsylvania. For some background information, here's a link 
  to an index of several articles written by Catherine Fitts.
  Even if you do not believe her allegations, you owe it to yourself to 
  ask her the hard questions you have about what she presents.
  A $10 donation will be requested at the door to help defray Catherine 
  and KVMR's expenses, but no one will be turned away for lack of funds. 
  Doors will open at 6:00 PM. For more information, please call (530) 
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  TUESDAY, JUNE 
  25th
  Filming with Guerilla Network 
  News
  Contact: Stephen Marshall
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  http://www.guerrillanews.com/corporate_crime/doc286.html
  "I will bet every last dollar I have that Enron 
  was the largest laundromat of stolen and tax evading dollars in American 
  history . . ." 
  Catherine Austin Fitts, a former Assistant Secretary of Housing and 
  Urban Development (HUD) and a past Managing Director of the Wall Street 
  investment bank Dillon Read noted that Enron's trading patterns, internet 
  money movements and [other activities] were consistent with a large-scale 
  money laundering operation. 
  She told FTW, "The fact that subpoenas were not issued months ago to 
  obtain all Enron Online off shore and onshore digital and paper trading 
  records and corresponding bank records defies logic, 

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- Original Message - 
From: Dan 
Byrnes 
To: Linda 
Minor 
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:26 AM
Subject: Peculiar and bushy experience
Dear Linda, I'm somewhat revamping my searching style with Google 
forgenealogy queries, and today had quite an odd, surprising experience. 
I'venothing on C19th England bankers with a rare name, Tiarkes, so I looked 
forthem, and up came only about five sites from Google, two of which were 
nogood; but two of them were links to a forthcoming "unauthorised 
biography"of George Bush (Snr I think), and the reason this came up re 
Tiarkes is dueto some link in the blurb for this book, re some C19th link 
with USinterests and Schroeders, via England, Tiarkes evidently a 
connnection withSchroeders. So you and I could be looking afresh at 
Schroeders, who were aGerman bank, and it's unclear why they started up in 
England anyway, fromthe book on them I've read (briefly) in my local 
university library a fewyears ago.There might be more to your theory 
about European bankers influences playingthemselves out in US circumstances 
than we yet know or even guess? Whattricks me is that such European 
connections do not seem to have come through"British connectivity", or the 
necessarily English-speaking world; but onthe other hand, Robert Morris in 
time of the American Rev. had agents inHamburg and so on, Lord knows what 
that might have led to. Morris by about1792-1793 had the bright idea of 
selling the US debt of the day to someSwiss financiers, an idea which did 
not come off - as far as we know.Cheers, Dan.
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Humanity VS The New World Order

Mind Control and Ritual Child Abuse--The True Weapons of 
Mass Destruction 

by Peter Farley 

Part 2

   The issue of why this kind of thing happens and why on such a 
widespread basis still remains. The more we uncover about the 
darkness that all these inter-twined, hydra-headed organizations 
are involved in, the more I believe we will see just how 
unbelieveably widespread this whole thing is --just like the Matrix 
itself. Perhaps Aldous Huxley once said it best,
 
It is perfectly possible for a man to be out of prison, and yet not 
free - to be under no physical constraint and yet to be a 
psychological captive, compelled to think, feel and act as the 
representatives of the national state, or of some private interest 
within the nation, wants him to think, feel and act. 

The nature of psychological compulsion is such that those who 
act under constraint remain under the impression that they are 
acting on their own initiative. The victim of mind-manipulation 
does not know that he is a victim. To him the walls of his prison 
are invisible, and he believes himself to be free. That he is not 
free is apparent only to other people. His servitude is strictly 
objective. 

Brave New World Revisited, Aldous Huxley, 1958 

In one place in the movie The Matrix, it is explained that those 
trapped within the matrix itself will defend the matrix to any 
extreme, believing that it is the only reality. 

 How much does all of this have to do with aliens, the 
government and the military, all the other aspects of the New 
World Order -- and all of which are only facets of the one grander 
plan?
 
   In an article entitled, New Evidence of Military Involvement In 
Abductions by Helmut Lammer Ph.D., Dr. Larner discusses what 
he calls `unintentional human/military contacts' (MILABs).  
MILABs have ''not only'' alien abduction experiences, he says, but 
they also report that they were kidnapped by a certain branch of 
human/military personnel, drugged, taken to hospital-like rooms 
and (under)ground military facilities where they saw men in 
white lab coats who examined, interrogated and sometimes 
even implanted them with military devices of some kind. 
Another article, The Battle For Your Mind - Mass Mind Control 
Techniques In America by Dick Sutphen, discusses the birth of 
conversion (Brainwashing in Christian Revivalism in 1735), and 
shows the extent to which we have all been brainwashed to 
some extent by a society meant to breed slaves, educate for 
slavery, and then keep the slaces happy or at least ignorant in 
their slavery.
   Its curent implications, however, begin with Nazi germany and 
the end of World War II as described in Frederick Forsythe's 
1972 novel, The Odessa File (Viking Press, NY).
   On the eastern front the German Army was bullied into battle 
against the Russians to take unbelievable casualties, not to 
produce victory but to produce a delay while the SS finished its 
escape plans. Behind the Army stood the SS, shooting and 
hanging some of the army men who took a step backwards after 
already taking more punsihment than military flesh and blood is 
ususally expected to stand. Thousands of officers and men of 
the Wehrmacht died in SS nooses in this way.
  Just vefore the final collapse, delayed six months after the 
chiefs  of the SS knew defeat was inevitable, the leaders of the 
SS disappeared. From one end of the country to the other they 
quit their posts, changed into civilian clothes, stuffed their 
beautifully (and officially) forged personal papers into their 
pockets, and vanished into the chaos that was Germany in May 

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] More interesting than Vreeland

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This person is accused of making a bomb threat against the Whitehouse?
This person claims to be in contact with the not-dead Timothy McVeigh, who has 
apparently taken refuge in South Africa.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/mcveigh_patsy.htm

If this is a real Timothy McVeigh trying to speak out, this would make good reason to 
want to keep John Doe #2 iced away as a dirty bomber.

He ought to be able to answer some interesting question.
Yet his continued existance is poo-pooed and debunked as fiercely as Vreeland's 
credibility is insisted upon.

Execution Eye Witness
http://www.apfn.org/movies/mcveigh-lives.WMV
coincidentally this witness has connections to the soon-to-be-disappeared Chandra 
Levy.



Brave HARTS wrote:

 The George Herald

 Tel: (044) 874 2424,

 Fax: (044) 874 1393,

 News Hotline: (083) 222 5971,

 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Letter to the Editor, and Ms. Alida de Beer.

 RE: Article titled, 'Bomdreiger loop op dun ys' [Bomb threat (person) walking on 
thin ice], published in the edition of Thursday, 20 June 2002, Page 2.

 [The article is in Afrikaans, the following is an English transcript.]

 

 Bomb threat (person) walking on thin ice, [George Herald, Thursday 20 June 2002]

 by Alida de Beer

 The female bomb threatener who caused the George Airport to be evacuated on Tuesday 
afternoon for a bomb search by the police, is walking on thin ice.

 The police see her call (the bomb threat) in a very serious light and if she is 
apprehended, she will be facing a long jail sentence.

 A woman who did not wish to identify herself first called the George Heralds office 
in Ringweg, to say that a bomb would explode in the airport just after three pm.

 A few minutes later she called the Newsline, a cell phone number.

 The Herald immediately informed the police and the airport and the police were at 
the airport within minutes where two flights were waiting to take off.

 The building was evacuated and the police searched the building, the two flights and 
all the cars in the parking area.

 Within minutes, two police officers were at the offices of the George Herald to 
interview the persons with whom the woman spoke.

 Ms. Jenny Becker, the airport manager stated that neither the passengers nor the 
airport staffed panicked when they were asked to evacuate the building.

 They were all wonderful. The evacuation and the police's search took approximately 
two hours. The flights were delayed, but we did not want to take any chances. 
Everyone's safety came first, said Ms. Becker.

 The telephone number, which registered on the George Herald's Newsline cellphone was 
investigated. The call was made from a public telephone in York street.

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 Your article fails to mention the following:

 1. Possible 'motives' for WHY anyone, or a woman, might go to the extreme lengths of 
making a bomb threat to the George Airport, THROUGH YOUR NEWSPAPER.

 2. That the person making the bomb threat used the following words in relaying her 
'bomb threat' to YOUR NEWSPAPER: Hello, daar is a bomb in the George Lughawe. Dit 
gaan op elf minute na drie af. Al Qanoon [Hello, there is a bomb in the George 
Airport. It is going off at eleven minutes past three (GMT + 2 hrs). Al Qanoon] [By 
the way three pm is exactly NINE HOURS after NINE AM, which is the time when the 
first World Trade Center attack occured. NINE HOURS PLUS 11 MINUTES = 911? What 
number do you call in America to 'alert the police' to 'danger'? Is it 911?]

 3. That the person making the bomb-threat made THREE calls, NOT TWO. The first call 
was at approximately 13:42 hrs, the second and 

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on 6/21/02 11:47 AM, Bill Howard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 . Do they recognize
 each other as legitimate statesmen, I doubt it. They would prefer the other
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1.  The truth, as real experts see it,  about Jose the Terrorist
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WASHINGTON, June 20 —  Just weeks before Timothy McVeigh bombed the Oklahoma
City federal building in 1995, U.S. intelligence and law enforcement
received several warnings that Islamic terrorists were seeking to strike on
American soil and that a likely target was government buildings, documents
show.
   Gannon said the 1995 warnings were plentiful enough that he initially
assumed Islamic extremists had struck when the bomb exploded in Oklahoma
City. Law enforcement too issued initial bulletins looking for Arab suspects
and borrowed Arabic translators from the military.
   “When I first heard about the Oklahoma bombing, the first reaction I
had was I wonder if this were a foreign group that had done this or the
Islamic extremists that had come up on our screen,” Gannon said.
   He said it was in 1998, after bin Laden issued a fatwa urging
specific attacks on America and two U.S. embassies in Africa were bombed,
that U.S. anti-terrorism efforts escalated markedly.
   “If there was a watershed year, it was 1998. That significantly
elevated our concern and resulted in a concerted effort, and a very strong
program to go get Osama bin Laden,” he said.
   The 1995 intelligence was specific enough that “if that was today,
you’d have (Bush Homeland Security Director) Tom Ridge going out and saying
we have this threat,” said former Rep. Bill McCollum, R-Fla., who in 1995
was a member of the House Intelligence Committee.

TERRORISM TASK FORCE
   McCollum formed a congressional task force in the late 1980s that
began warning of the growing threat of terrorism, and which issued some of
the 1995 alerts.
   “For a good number of years, there was a failure to acknowledge the
severity of the threat,” he said. “There really had been this disbelief or
unwillingness to scare people.”
   Former Clinton White House press secretary Joe Lockhart said
“protecting America against terrorists was a high priority” during the
1990s. “Threat information regularly came in and steps were taken to deal
with it,” he said.
   “In general, the record is very clear that the Clinton administration
increased counterterrorism funding and focus more than any other prior
administration based on the emerging threats,” Lockhart added.
   Some of the 1995 warnings were pointed.
   “Iranian sources confirmed Tehran’s desire and determination to
strike inside the U.S. against objects symbolizing the American government
in the near future,” said a Feb. 27, 1995, terror warning by the House Task
Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare.

INCREASINGLY SPECIFIC WARNINGS
   The warnings became increasingly specific as to the possible
location, type of attack and likely dates.
   “These strikes are most likely to occur either in the immediate
future or in the new Iranian year - starting 21 March 1995,” the
congressional task force predicted.
   U.S. intelligence monitored a series of meetings and conferences
between senior officials of Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and other terror
organizations in mid-February 1995 in which the subject of killing Americans
on U.S. soil came up, officials said.
   During these conferences, known terrorists made specific mention of
Congress and the White House as “institutions that are great enemies of the
Islamist movement,” according to a congressional warning.
   “This is a deviation from past discussions beyond referring to the
U.S. as a single entity to pointing to specific branches of government as
their true enemies,” it added.
   Around the same time, the FBI received intelligence from the

[CTRL] SkeptiNews: Closest Shave In Years

2002-06-21 Thread Ric Carter

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@ VATICAN FOLLIES: http://cagle.slate.msn.com/news/Cardinal-Law/main.asp
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* EARTH - CLOSEST SHAVE IN YEARS. A football-pitch-sized asteroid capable
  of razing a major city came within a whisker of hitting Earth on June
  14, but was only spotted three days later, scientists said Thursday. We
  are doomed. http://www.spacedaily.com/news/020620121339.dc05vk7l.html

* To Serve Man: Aliens and the New World Order (yum yum!)
  http://4truthseekers.com/treeoflife/articles/toserveman.htm
* In the News: Argentina sends 'X-files' team to probe animal deaths:
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,1242109a12,FF.html

After the aliens squish us with rocks, will we be a juicy tasty pudding??

* CHINA SCIENTISTS TO PROBE 'ET' LAUNCH TOWER.A team of Chinese scientists
  is to head out to the far west of the country to investigate a mystery
  pyramid that local legend says is a launch tower left by space aliens.
  http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?u=/nm/20020619/sc_nm/china_aliens_dc_1
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* Can People Send Signals After They Die? Doc Sez Science Has the Answer:
  http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DailyNews/afterlife020618.html
* Did Carlos Castaneda hallucinate that stuff in the Don Juan books
  or make it up? http://www.straightdope.com/columns/020621.html

* EVIDENCE FOR CREATION BY OUTSIDE INTERVENTION. Darwinists, Creationists
  and Intelligent Design proponents are unable to explain anomalies in the
  emergence of domesticated plants, animals and humans. So obviously the
  Reptilioids brewed us up. http://www.nexusmagazine.com/ETcreation.html

Have you hallucinated any divine truths lately? Are they like wet dreams??

* Southern Baptists proclaim themselves the moral leaders of the world:
  http://www.trnonline.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=FAITH-FAITH-06-19-02cat=LR
* India Villagers Marry Off 2 Donkeys To Appease Rain God, End Drought:
  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16225-2002Jun20.html
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* FBI uncovers massive US paramilitary group - greatest threat to national
  security: http://www.therockalltimes.co.uk/2002/06/17/fbi-uncovers.html
* FBI Braces for 4th of July Terror Attacks! Coming by land, sea or air?
  http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/la-42989jun19.story

* A couple weeks before 9/11, you may have seen this job posting in the
  paper: ENEMY WANTED. Serious enemy needed to justify Pentagon budget
  increase. Defense contractors desperate. Interested enemies send letter
  and video (threatening okay) to Enemy Search Committee, C/O Ben Cohen,
  Burlington VT 05401. http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=13395

Do threats make you feel unified? Which whom/what? How's yer stress level?

* Terrorism has nothing to do with poverty or the lack of education.
  It’s the actual content of the education of terrorists that matters:
  http://www.thenewrepublic.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20020624s=krueger062402
* TWO YEARS TO SAVE THE WORLD. Let's get rich, and fix global warming too!
  Plot thickens: http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns2394
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 If it weren't for the knee-high sewage lapping at his dress pants
  and the confused terrorist spraying automatic gunfire over his head
  between loud, emotional outbursts in a language that sounded like
  someone choking on gravel, Johnson could see little reason to change
  his mind about the wisdom of registering at a two-star hotel.
  -- Bob Wakulich  (Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest entry)

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By Thom Calandra, Editor
CBS.MarketWatch.com
Friday, June 21, 2002

Give the gold bugs credit: They know a theme when
they see one.

Gold's believers, some of them held in high regard
in financial circles, this week are waging all-out war
against the dollar, which they sense is close to a
decline of epic proportions.

RBC Global Investment Management Inc., a division
of Royal Bank of Canada, said in a research report,
The U.S. dollar has been levitating for a long time,
but the underlying fundamentals continue to erode.
The U.S. current-account deficit exceeds $400 billion
annually, and the continuation of this chronic deficit
has turned the U.S. into the world's largest debtor as
most of these deficits are being recycled into U.S.
debt instruments. Gold is already in a bull market in
U.S. dollars, and an established bull market in every
other currency. If the reserve currency, the U.S. dollar,
falters, gold could well be launched on the upside as
people recognize its status as the only true currency.

Others are seizing on news of a record high U.S. trade
gap and a decline in overseas buying of American
securities as powerful ammunition for this year's gold
rally. The euro is at a two-year high vs. the dollar,
fetching more than 96 cents and up 10 percent so far
this year. Gold's price is up 19 percent since Jan. 2.

Borrowing U.S. dollars and investing in foreign assets
must be the next big play. Some of them will even figure
that the big winner in this whole situation will be gold, as
it is the ultimate money, the final store of value, observes
Alf Field at 321gold.com, one of many pro-bullion news
services promoting the current gold rally. Most other
currencies are suspect because they are all worthless
paper.

Barry Cooper, a gold equities analyst at CIBC World
Markets in Toronto, says each 1 percent move higher
for the euro against the dollar will translate into a 1
percent gain for gold. If the euro reaches $1, then gold,
reflecting a worldwide retreat from American assets,
will move to $345 an ounce, Cooper says. That will lead
to a 25 percent gain in the prices of gold mining stocks,
the strongest gainers in the U.S., Canadian, Australian,
and South African stock market this year.

   The fix is in

The folks at Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. say
investment banks are starting to understand the panel's
sole complaint: that central banks have employed a
strong dollar and rigged gold sales to depress the price
of bullion -- all in an effort to moderate inflation and keep
worldwide fiscal turmoil at bay.

The establishment in the gold world is coming around to
our central premise: that central banks and particularly
the U.S. Treasury Department have been colluding
surreptitiously and desperately to suppress the gold price
and manipulate the gold market, Chris Powell,
secretary/treasurer of GATA, told his members.

Also taking it on the chin is the U.S. stock market, seen
as past its prime and the subject of scorn from
once-adoring overseas investors. Overseas investors
rang up a mere net $17.6 billion of U.S. stock-market
purchases in the first quarter vs. $41.7 billion in
first-quarter 2001.

William Rees-Mogg, editor of the forthcoming book
The Case for Gold, recently wrote in The Times of
London, The price rise in gold is telling us the truth,
not about gold, but about the U.S. dollar. The U.S.
external deficit has to be reduced. That means the
dollar has to fall further. There is no early prospect of a
return to confidence in the U.S. stock market. There is
no point in the U.S. raising interest rates, which would
weaken the U.S. economy and only postpone the
necessary 

[CTRL] All Along the Watchtower - 9/11 Class Action Lawsuit Mames Bush Co

2002-06-21 Thread Jei

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http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.21A.pitt.watchtower.htm

All Along the Watchtower
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Opinion

Thursday, 20 June, 2002

Stanley Hilton, a San Francisco attorney and former aide to Senator Bob
Dole, filed a $7 billion lawsuit in U.S. District Court on June 3rd. The
class-action suit names ten defendants, among whom are George W. Bush, Dick
Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, Donald Rumsfeld and Norman Mineta.

Hilton's suit charges Bush and his administration with allowing the
September 11th attacks to take place so as to reap political benefits from
the catastrophe. Hilton alleges that Osama bin Laden is being used as a
scapegoat by an administration that ignored pressing warnings of the attack
and refused to round up suspected terrorists beforehand. Hilton alleges the
ultimate motivation behind these acts was achieved when the Taliban were
replaced by American military forces with a regime friendly to America and
its oil interests in the region.

Hilton's plaintiffs in this case are the families of 14 victims of 9/11,
numbering 400 people nationwide. These are the same families that rallied in
Washington recently to advocate for an independent investigation into the
attacks. The current 9/11 hearings are being conducted by Congress behind
closed doors, a situation these families find unacceptable.

Mr. Hilton, by filing his lawsuit, has joined the ranks of an
ever-increasing body of Americans who subscribe to what they call the LIHOP
Theory. LIHOP stands for Let It Happen On Purpose. The LIHOP Theory puts
forward the accusation that Bush and his people allowed the September 11th
attacks to take place, despite the fact that they had been repeatedly warned
of an impending strike.

The LIHOP Theory is straightforward: In the months before 9/11, American
intelligence agencies received ominous warnings from the intelligence
services of nations like Israel, Russia, Egypt and Germany. These warnings
were pointed - an attack involving hijacked aircraft and prominent American
landmarks was imminent, our security forces were told. Bush himself was
briefed of these warnings weeks before they happened. Instead of responding
vigorously to these warnings, the Bush administration and its security
apparatus did nothing.

LIHOP is, of course, the purest breed of conspiracy theory, involving
high-ranking members of government from both parties, as well as the CIA,
FBI and NSA. Like all good conspiracy theories, LIHOP is surrounded by
disturbing facts and bits of evidence that are difficult to ignore.

The warnings from all those foreign intelligence services, after all, are
quite real. Egypt, Germany, Russia and the Israelis were vociferous in their
concerns. The German intelligence service BND told US and Israeli
intelligence that Middle East terrorists were planning to hijack commercial
aircraft to use as weapons to attack important symbols of American and
Israeli culture. The BND's information came through Echelon, the
American-controlled network of 120 satellites that monitors all worldwide
electronic communications.

Egypt voiced similar warnings that same month regarding aircraft attacks.
Delivered just before the G-8 summit in Genoa, Egypt's alert carried such
weight that anti-aircraft batteries were placed around Columbus Airport in
Italy. The Russians warned the US that same summer of 25 pilots who had been
trained for suicide missions, and Putin himself delivered the warning in
the strongest possible terms to the US government. The Israeli intelligence
service Mossad delivered a warning to both the FBI and the CIA detailing a
major assault on the United States against a large-scale target that was
very vulnerable.

The Washington Post has reported that the NSA intercepted two messages on
September 10, 2001, warning that something was going to happen the next day.
Tomorrow is zero hour, was one of the messages. The NSA's charter is to
intercept, translate and pass on to FBI and CIA operatives important
electronic signals from all across the globe. The Echelon satellite network
which provided the German BND with their 9/11 information last June is part
of that system.

According to the NSA, the September 10th data was not translated until
September 12th, but it stands to reason that they were privy to the same
electronic data the other foreign services were using as the basis for their
warnings. One US intelligence source claims the data provided no actionable
intelligence, a fair claim given the vagueness of the messages and the
volume of material NSA must deal with. Yet in combination with the strident
foreign intelligence warnings, the words intercepted by our large electronic
ears on September 10th add to the growing questions.

Then, there are the threads. A FEMA official told Dan Rather that the
disaster agency had been at the World Trade Center on September 10th. Why?
Governor Jeb Bush of Florida signed executive order #01-261 on September
7th, putting his 

[CTRL] sleep room, US war crimes, 9/11, CIA/drugs

2002-06-21 Thread Smart News

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this may be very heavy for survivors

The Sleep Room's Missing Memories by Ray Conlogue Quebec Arts Correspondent,
Montreal A new CBC [Canadian Broadcasting Corporation] miniseries tells how
mental patients in Montreal were once subjected to CIA-sponsored
brainwashing. It's a story worth telling, but some fear that making it into a
TV drama may simplify the complex issues behind this shameful bit of Canadian
historyrecalls a series of barbaric experiments conducted on mental
patients over a nine-year period beginning in 1955. Although these began as a
well-meaning if desperate attempt to cure schizophrenia, the psychic
driving technique invented by psychiatrist Ewen Cameron took on a
science-fiction quality when it was revealed in 1977 that the Central
Intelligence Agency had helped finance the work. The CIA thought it had
potential as a brainwashing technique to be used on enemies of the United
States during the Cold Wara human catastrophe that stripped more than 300
people of their identitiesshe sued Ottawa instead, and forced the
government to pay $100,000 to each surviving Allan patient.
http://serendipity.magnet.ch/cia/slprm.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0%2C3604%2C737060%2C00.html
We won't deny our consciences - Prominent Americans have issued this
statement on the war on terror Friday June 14, 2002 The Guardian

Let it not be said that people in the United States did nothing when their
government declared a war without limit and instituted stark new measures of
repression.

The signers of this statement call on the people of the US to resist the
policies
and overall political direction that have emerged since September 11, 2001,
and which pose grave dangers to the people of the world. We believe that
peoples and nations have the right to determine their own destiny, free from
military coercion by great powers. We believe that all persons detained or
prosecuted by the US government should have the same rights of due process.
We believe that questioning, criticism, and dissent must be valued and
protected. We understand that such rights and values are always contested and
must be fought for.

We believe that people of conscience must take responsibility for what their
own governments do - we must first of all oppose the injustice that is done
in our own name. Thus we call on all Americans to resist the war and
repression that has been loosed on the world by the Bush administration. It
is unjust, immoral, and illegitimate. We choose to make common cause with the
people of the world

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1click_id=3art_id=qw1023894901416B265
Documentary of US 'war crimes' shocks Europe June 12 2002
by Clive Freeman Berlin - American soldiers have been involved in the
torture and murder of captured Taliban prisoners, and may have aided in the
disappearance of up to 3 000 men in the region of Mazar-i-Sharif, according
to Jamie Doran, an Irish documentary film-maker.

From Lynne Moss-Sharmann
NSA INTERCEPTED 9/11 MESSAGES ON 9/09  - NOT TRANSLATED TIL 9/12
June 19, 2002
U.S. Intelligence Intercepted Messages Day Before Sept. 11
By REUTERS

1.  WASHINGTON - U.S. intelligence intercepted two messages the day before the
Sept. 11 attacks that indicated an event was planned the following day, but
the communications were not translated until Sept. 12, government sources
said Wednesday. The sources said the National Security Agency, which
eavesdrops on communications worldwide, intercepted the messages saying,
tomorrow is zero day and the match begins tomorrow. The sources,
speaking on condition of anonymity, said the agency did not translate the
messages until Sept. 12 -- the day after hijacked airliners smashed into
New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon killing about 3,000 people
in a plot believed hatched by Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network.

The intercepted messages gave no details of the time, location or nature of
the event that was to take place and it was not clear what language the
communications were in. The NSA handles a huge volume of intercepted
communications traffic from around the world in many different languages. One
U.S. intelligence source said no action could have been taken on the basis of
such vague messages. Sometimes we get the ambient noise and background
chatter. You don't know who is talking, the source said. Is there
actionable intelligence in this? Absolutely not. This is not a smoking gun.
U.S. intelligence agencies, including the FBI and the CIA, have been strongly
criticized by Congress and the media for failing to pick up on a number of
warning signs before the attacks.

http://serendipity.magnet.ch/cia.html
The CIA - America's Premier International Terrorist Organization
ClA-supported Mujahedeen rebels [now, 2001, part of the Northern Alliance
fighting the Taleban] engaged heavily in drug trafficking while fighting
against the Soviet-supported government and its plans to reform the very
backward 

[CTRL] Boys will be boys

2002-06-21 Thread Euphorian

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From
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Boys will be boys



It has become a tragic inevitability that whenever international peacekeepers are
sent to bring law and order to a war torn country, a vast and exploitative sex
industry, allegedly follows close behind.

Correspondent looks at Bosnia and Kosovo where girls as young as 15 have been
duped into working in brothels and forced to have sex with UN personnel. We find
that the boys will be boys culture prevails and that international soldiers and police
officers at the highest level are turning a blind eye. It is a shameful and disturbing
tale. Sue Lloyd-Roberts reports.



Correspondent website,
Exclusive interviews:

 Bosnian police officer denounces corruption  UN recommendation: Practice safe
sex



Sold into sex slavery

Like thousands of young women in the impoverished countries of the Eastern bloc
Monica, a 19-year-old Romanian, leapt at the chance when her boyfriend said he
had arranged a job as a waitress for her in Italy.


The Vila Bar - a place of both hope and disgust
She would work for a
year and put the money towards their wedding. She was taken to the Vila Bar in
Bosnia.

Monica was led upstairs to a bedroom where Elena, another Romanian girl,
explained the routine.

Her shift lasted from 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. during which she would have to dance and
service up to eight clients a night.

Monica reacted with disgust and outrage at the betrayal.

Her boyfriend had sold her for 3000 Deutsch Marks, around £1000.

She asked about the clients. Elena said: There are many foreigners, soldiers and
policemen. Monica saw a glimmer of hope.

A graduate of the Bucharest Language Institute, she spoke French and English.

She would simply tell one of the foreigners that there had been a mistake and ask
for help.


The men know they are running a risk
Most of them were
Americans and German, Monica said. Of course, I appealed to them for help, the
soldiers and the policemen. But all of them said that they shouldn't be there and
they would get into trouble if they helped.

Monica tells how in the end she befriended a local taxi driver who agreed to drive
her to the border in return, of course, for sex.

International peacekeeping customers

In her testimony to the police, Monica identified four officers from the International
Police Task Force (IPTF) and four Nato soldiers among her customers.

There are hundreds of premises selling sex in Bosnia, employing on average ten
girls each.

If Monica's foreign clientele of eight is an average for the region, a lot of
peacekeepers must be using such services.

Monk: These are embarrassing and damaging matters
Richard Monk, is a
respected British policeman and former Deputy Commissioner of the Devon and
Cornwall Police. He was head of the IPTF in Bosnia for two years from 1998.

He says I knew of one case where a 14 year old girl was actually living with an
international police officer. I had to set up an internal affairs branch to manage
investigations against my own police officers. There was nothing more
embarrassing and damaging to the work that we were trying to do.

The Head of U.N. Mission in Sarajevo, Jacques Paul Klein, says the situation is now
under control.

He says: We have a zero tolerance policy here. Any officer, anywhere using the
service of a prostitute, will be fired immediately and sent home.

How many has he sent home for sexual misconduct since he arrived in 1999? He is
not sure. He thinks about fifteen.

Unacceptable behaviour

Is it simply a case of boys will be boys and is it hopeless to expect thousands of
men posted away from home not to take advantage of the perks on offer?


Poverty leads to desperate measures on the streets
Richard Monk has no
sympathy, I cannot see how you can possibly go into a country representing an
international organisation like the United Nations or Nato and behave in this way.

Monk suggests that all international police officers and soldiers should be told that 
it
is totally unacceptable for you to consort with all prostitutes, as you may not know
the difference between prostitutes and trafficked girls. So, quite simply, this is an
offence and you will be court- martialled if you're caught.

But while those in charge debate about what should be done, there may be
thousands of young women, like Monica, still being held as sex slaves in Bosnia.
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[CTRL] (Fwd) LP RELEASE: Southwest Airlines and jumbo flyers

2002-06-21 Thread Euphorian

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Congress shouldn't throw its weight around
in case of jumbo flyers, Libertarians say

WASHINGTON, DC -- The American Obesity Association should drop its
complaint against a Southwest Airlines policy of charging overweight
passengers for an extra seat, Libertarians say, because it flies in
the face of common sense.

This threatened lawsuit is so ridiculous that, frankly, we're having
a little trouble getting our arms around it, said Steve Dasbach,
Libertarian Party executive director. Why shouldn't a business be
able to charge customers more money if they use more of a particular
product?

Southwest Airlines came under fire for its policy of charging jumbo
flyers for two seats on Wednesday when the American Obesity
Association said it may file a lawsuit - or even ask Congress to
outlaw the two- ticket policy. The airline says it has stepped-up
enforcement of its 20-year-old policy in response to complaints that
obese passengers who wedge themselves into one seat were making things
uncomfortable for other flyers.

The rationale used to challenge Southwest's policy? It's not their
fault they're overweight.

Miriam Berg, president of the Council on Size  Weight Discrimination,
said, If a person takes up more than one seat, that's not the problem
of the person, that's the problem of the seat.

Instead of acknowledging the reality that overweight people consume
more space, these customers are trying to force a business to give
them something for free, Dasbach said. The good news is that two
similar lawsuits against Southwest Airlines - one in 1990 and one in
2000 - were decided in the company's favor. The bad news is that if
Congress decides to 'weigh in,' anything can happen.

For example, the Americans with Disabilities Act defines obesity as a
disability in some cases, but so far the law hasn't been used to force
airlines to give up an extra seat. However, disability lawyers,
inspired by the Southwest Airlines controversy, are already pushing
Congress to reverse that.

But if Congress can prohibit airlines from charging overweight people
for two seats, Libertarians ask, what's next?

* Should restaurants be forced to fork over super-sized portions of
food to overweight people, at no extra charge?

* Should bars be prohibited from charging customers for a second,
third, or fourth drink if they claim it's not their fault that they
can't stop drinking?

* Should a men's clothing store be compelled to charge 7-foot-1-inch
basketball star Shaquille O'Neal the same price for a suit as an
average man?

* Should it be illegal for a home-builder to charge large families
more money because they need a bigger house?

Common sense dictates that companies can't have a one-size-fits-all
pricing policy, Dasbach said. But when has common sense ever stopped
Big Government from throwing its weight around?

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 Friday, 14 June, 2002, 17:39 GMT 18:39 UK
 Boys will be boys

 It has become a tragic inevitability that whenever international peacekeepers are
 sent to bring law and order to a war torn country, a vast and exploitative sex
 industry, allegedly follows close behind.

 Correspondent looks at Bosnia and Kosovo where girls as young as 15 have been
 duped into working in brothels and forced to have sex with UN personnel. We find
 that the boys will be boys culture prevails and that international soldiers and 
police
 officers at the highest level are turning a blind eye. It is a shameful and 
disturbing
 tale. Sue Lloyd-Roberts reports.

 Correspondent website,
 Exclusive interviews:

  Bosnian police officer denounces corruption  UN recommendation: Practice safe
 sex

 Sold into sex slavery

 Like thousands of young women in the impoverished countries of the Eastern bloc
 Monica, a 19-year-old Romanian, leapt at the chance when her boyfriend said he
 had arranged a job as a waitress for her in Italy.

 The Vila Bar - a place of both hope and disgust
 She would work for a
 year and put the money towards their wedding. She was taken to the Vila Bar in
 Bosnia.

 Monica was led upstairs to a bedroom where Elena, another Romanian girl,
 explained the routine.

 Her shift lasted from 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. during which she would have to dance and
 service up to eight clients a night.

 Monica reacted with disgust and outrage at the betrayal.

 Her boyfriend had sold her for 3000 Deutsch Marks, around £1000.

 She asked about the clients. Elena said: There are many foreigners, soldiers and
 policemen. Monica saw a glimmer of hope.

 A graduate of the Bucharest Language Institute, she spoke French and English.

 She would simply tell one of the foreigners that there had been a mistake and ask
 for help.

 The men know they are running a risk
 Most of them were
 Americans and German, Monica said. Of course, I appealed to them for help, the
 soldiers and the policemen. But all of them said that they shouldn't be there and
 they would get into trouble if they helped.

 Monica tells how in the end she befriended a local taxi driver who agreed to drive
 her to the border in return, of course, for sex.

 International peacekeeping customers

 In her testimony to the police, Monica identified four officers from the 
International
 Police Task Force (IPTF) and four Nato soldiers among her customers.

 There are hundreds of premises selling sex in Bosnia, employing on average ten
 girls each.

 If Monica's foreign clientele of eight is an average for the region, a lot of
 peacekeepers must be using such services.

 Monk: These are embarrassing and damaging matters
 Richard Monk, is a
 respected British policeman and former Deputy Commissioner of the Devon and
 Cornwall Police. He was head of the IPTF in Bosnia for two years from 1998.

 He says I knew of one case where a 14 year old girl was actually living with an
 international police officer. I had to set up an internal affairs branch to manage
 investigations against my own police officers. There was nothing more
 embarrassing and damaging to the work that we were trying to do.

 The Head of U.N. Mission in Sarajevo, Jacques Paul Klein, says the situation is now
 under control.

 He says: We have a zero tolerance policy here. Any officer, anywhere using the
 service of a prostitute, will be fired immediately and sent home.

 How many has he sent home for sexual misconduct since he arrived in 1999? He is
 not sure. He thinks about fifteen.

 Unacceptable behaviour

 Is it simply a case of boys will be boys and is it hopeless to expect thousands of
 men posted away from home not to take advantage of the perks on offer?

 Poverty leads to desperate measures on the streets
 Richard Monk has no
 sympathy, I cannot see how you can possibly go into a country representing an
 international organisation like the United Nations or Nato and behave in this way.

 Monk suggests that all international police officers and soldiers should be told 
that it
 is totally unacceptable for you to consort with all prostitutes, as you may not know
 the difference between prostitutes and trafficked girls. So, quite simply, this is an
 offence and you will be court- martialled if you're caught.

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2002-06-21 Thread Euphorian

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World History and the Texan Mind of George W. Bush: A Drama in Three Parts

URL: http://www.theglobalist.com/nor/richter/2002/04-06-02.shtml
Copyright (c) 2002 by TransAtlantic Futures, Inc.

How does the Lone Star mentality threaten U.S. military and diplomatic leadership
in the world?

In retrospect, George W. Bush's Middle East policy appears to have been based on
two goals supported by the President — if not by every member of his
administration. The first goal was informal U.S. control of Middle Eastern oil
supplies. This goal was to be realized by means of alliance with friendly Arab
tyrannies (Saudi Arabia and a post-Saddam dictatorship in Iraq).

Giving the Israelis free reign

The second goal was to give Israel's right wing a free hand in carrying out their long-

cherished dream of crushing the PLO, reoccupying the territories and — if they
thought they could get away with it — ethnically cleansing all Arabs from the former
Palestine Mandate.


What makes Mr. Bush's pursuit of these twin goals so perplexing is that they pair
what used to be considered big opposites. After all, pro-Israel Americans often have
been at odds with Americans in the oil industry — which counts emirs as its friends
and business partners.

Weirdly enough, though, Texans like George W. Bush can be Zionists, and
Arabists, at the very same time. That is because the traditional culture of Texas
combines the religious ethics of the Old Testament with the economics of Arab oil
sheikhs.

Don't mess with Texas

I know something about the subject. I am a fifth-generation Texan, whose earliest
Texan

ancestor came to the state in General Custer's Federal army in 1876. I went to work
in the Texas state legislature at the age of nineteen. I received the key to the city 
of
Fort Worth, for my contributions to Texan literature. I am even a distant nephew of
the actor Larry Hagman — TV's J.R. Ewing.

And, last, but not least, I own a modest ranch in Texas not far from George W.
Bush's considerably larger ranch. Thus, I can claim some authority in explaining
what appears to the rest of the world to be an insane strategy — a bilateral Israeli-
American alliance lording it over the oil fields of the Middle East and Central Asia.

Back to the Bible

This is, in fact, the archetypal daydream of an Old Testament Protestant Texas oil
man

such as George W. Bush. Although Mr. Bush's forebears are from the Northeastern
United States, the landscape which has shaped him is that of Texas.


It's a culture that combines a violent Scots-Irish strain of Old Testament religiosity
and a pre-industrial economy that strongly favors the commodity-driven capitalism
of cotton and oil over high-tech manufacturing and scientific RD.

This unique synthesis has long held back social and economic progress in Texas.
And now, as the inspiration for the Bush Administration's disastrous Middle Eastern
policy, this traditional Lone Star mentality threatens to undermine U.S. military and
diplomatic leadership in the world.

Texas as the Anglo-Celtic frontier

George W. Bush was born in New Haven, Connecticut. But he was raised in Texas
— and

he is a genuine cultural Texan. Mainstream Texan culture has important Latino
influences, but it has been shaped chiefly by the culture of the American South —
and a particular one at that.

To see all the influences that have shaped the 43rd U.S. President, one has to
delve back into religion and history.

Texas is the culture of the Scots-Irish rednecks or hillbillies of the Highland
South — and not that of the more aristocratic culture of the coastal Southern
Bourbon elite. Think hoedowns, not debutante balls.

The tribes of Texas

By the time they reached Texas, the Anglo-Celtic ancestors of today's white Texans
had

been conquered and expropriated other cultures and nations for centuries.
Originally, they were Protestant Scots whom the English planted in Ulster (on land
taken from the native Catholic Irish).


In the 18th century, these same Scots-Irish then crossed the sea to the Ozarks and
Appalachians. In the 19th century, they supported the ethnic cleansing of the
Cherokees and other Indian nations. (Though, to be fair, a few noble exceptions
such as Sam Houston and Davy Crockett — who both defended the Indians — did
exist.)

Since that time, altogether five major tribes have lived in Texas — namely these
Anglo- Celtic Southerners, Tejanos (Mexican-Texans), Germans, blacks and Native
Americans.

To make a long story short, one can summarize the history of Texas from 1836 until
the 1960s in one sentence: The biggest tribe, the Anglo-Celtic Southerners,
expropriated the Tejanos, deported the Indians, crushed the Germans — and
exploited the blacks.

Wars civil — and uncivil

Only 15 years later, the state's Southern majority led Texas out of the Union and
into the

Confederacy at the outset of 

[CTRL] W Drama Pt2

2002-06-21 Thread Euphorian

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From The Globalist

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Of Texas, Cowboys and Militant Zionists

URL: http://www.theglobalist.com/nor/richter/2002/04-07-02.shtml
Copyright (c) 2002 by TransAtlantic Futures, Inc.

What are illuminating parallels between the intellectual and religious genesis of
Texas and Israel?

The fierce religiosity of Anglo-Celtic Texans (see Part 1), like so much else, can be
traced back to Ulster and Scotland — via Tennessee, Kentucky and West Virginia.
The 18th century Scots who moved to the American colonies from Northern Ireland
combined frontier brutality with simple and fervent Calvinism. Much as the
Protestant Dutch Afrikaaners of South Africa did, these Protestant Scots-Irish
Southerners compared themselves to the ancient Hebrews.

Different verses

So, of course, did black Americans — who chose to dwell on the exodus of the
Hebrews

from slavery in Egypt. The Southerners who populated Texas much preferred other
portions of the Bobble. These were the verses about the conquest of the Promised
Land and the annihilation of the Canaanites.


For all their nominal Christianity, white Protestant Southerners have never been
comfortable with a meek and mild Jesus. The deity who turned himself over for
execution without a fight, counseled his followers to turn the other cheek when
struck and commanded forgiveness of one's enemies has never been popular in
Texas and other parts south.

Deep down, most Southern men prefer Hebrew tribal generals such as Moses,
Joshua, Gideon and David. Their idea of religion is kicking Canaanite butt at God's
command.

A lack of recognition

Ironically, some of those U.S. fundamentalists appear not to realize that the Old
Testament

heroes whom they admire on the one hand and the modern Jewish liberals in
Hollywood whom their preachers teach them to despise on the other belong to the
same ethnic group.


For example, many illustrated bibles in the United States depict the ancient
Hebrews — as well as Jesus — with blue eyes and Northern European features.

A friend of mine had an acquaintance who applied for an apartment in Dallas. When
he told the landlady that he was from Israel, she replied in relief, Oh, good. I
thought you might be a Jew.

It is with good reason then that Southern religion in the United States has been
called Old Testament Protestantism. Amazingly, Southern Protestant morality
resembles that of Orthodox Jews — or traditional Muslims.

It emphasizes strict religious obedience. Indeed, some of the laws governing morals
in Texas and other Southern states are near-literal transcriptions from the Book of
Leviticus.

Even today, Protestant preachers mobilize their flocks to prevent the repeal of
archaic sodomy laws. They fear that cities such as Dallas and Houston will be
punished like Sodom and Gomorrah.

A sterile morality

In addition to its legalism, this Old Testament Protestant morality is also communal.
Its

single, seamless moral code is enforced by the community, employers, schools, the
state and — until a few decades ago — by the lynch mob. Among clannish, tight-
knit, old- fashioned Anglo-Celtic Southern Protestants, as among Orthodox Jews,
there is little toleration for deviance from tribal norm.


The result has been intellectual and cultural sterility — and the persistence of pre-
modern superstition. When I was growing up in Austin, a liberal university town,
fundamentalists a few hundred miles away in Waco regularly burned satanic
books and records.

In the 1980s, when I worked at the state capital, Brother Lester Roloff — a sort of
Protestant mullah — put a curse on the Texas legislature. An acquaintance of mine
who studied paleontology at Harvard was asked by a rural Texan neighbor, Are
they teaching you about that Karl Darwin?

Mixed messages

That's right —Karl Darwin — the bearded foreign theorist of both socialism and
evolution.

Was it any surprise when George W. Bush, during the 2000 presidential campaign,
announced that Jesus was his favorite philosopher — and that the jury is still out on
the theory of evolution?

One more surprise: The gun-toting, Bible-thumping Anglo-Celtic Texan in
conquered Mexican and Indian territories — with his admiration for the Hebrew
patriarchs and professed devotion to the Ten Commandments — is remarkably
similar to the gun-toting, Torah-thumping Israeli settler in the conquered Arab
territories.

Sabra rattling

The sabra ideal of a certain strain of Zionism — macho and militaristic — is a
cousin of the

Southern/Western redneck or cowboy, right down to the contempt for the
disposable Canaanites.


And that is precisely why the Sharon edition of present-day Israel and Texas before
the civil rights revolution have so much in common. In my view, both combine
populism within the majority ethnic nation with the cruel subordination of ethnic
minorities.

A generation ago, T.R. Fehrenbach, the great Texan historian, 

[CTRL] W Drama Pt3

2002-06-21 Thread Euphorian

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From The Globalist

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Saudi Texas Vs. Japanese Texas

URL: http://www.theglobalist.com/nor/richter/2002/04-08-02.shtml
Copyright (c) 2002 by TransAtlantic Futures, Inc.

What challenges face the Texan concept of wealth in terms of resource extraction?

If Texas were an independent republic, as it was from 1836-1845, it would be a third
world country — with a small first world sector embedded in it. Think of it as a big
Saudi Arabia enfolding a small Japan.

The older Texan economy is based on primitive commodity capitalism — cotton,
cattle, oil. The mentality of the traditional Texan businessman is that of the
premodern seigneurial elite. According to the Italian historian Raimondo Luraghi,
this grouping included not only the slave-owners of the U.S. South — but also the
British Nabobs of the West Indies, the Mexican hacendados, and Brazil's
plantation owners.

A lack of industry

Thus, it is not an industrial capitalist mindset at all. Rather, this strain of the 
Texas
mentality

is that of the Spanish conquistador — who dreamed of quickly acquiring fabulous
wealth by plunder rather than effort.


One of the most popular tales in the impoverished folklore of Anglo-Celtic Texas is
a story about fabled knife-fighter Jim Bowie. In this story, the legendary Mr. Bowie
discovered a lost Spanish silver mine near San Antonio — just before he was killed
in the Battle of the Alamo.

As Cortes and Pizarro and other Spanish thugs dreamed of American Indian
treasure, Bowie and other Anglo-Celtic Texan thugs dreamed of Spanish treasure.
The idea of making one's fortune through hard, steady, patient work has been
strange and repugnant on both sides of the Rio Grande River.

Inventing Texas?

Equally alien to this older Texas economy is the idea of invention. The Yankee
inventor —

Thomas Edison, Henry Ford — is a familiar icon. But there has only been one
famous Southern inventor — Cyrus McCormick, a Virginian.

As it turns out, his invention, the McCormick Reaper, was not wanted in the pre-
Civil War South — simply because slaves were cheaper than machines. McCormick
made his fortune in the North, where high wages among free workers created
incentives for mechanized agriculture.

Lay the blame on oil

The discovery of oil in Texas was a social disaster. It made the Texas oil man a
global

symbol of the crass parvenu — at least until the vulgar Saudi sheikh appeared.


As in Saudi Arabia, oil riches prevented the reform of antiquated social structures
and archaic habits of mind.Thanks to oil, Texas did not need to reform its pathetic
school system to produce world-class professionals and thinkers. Texan Christianity
remained in a fundamentalist rut.

Oil also permitted the rich families of Texas to import technicians, scientists and
intellectuals for Texan companies and Texan universities from other parts of the
United States and the world.

In this way, it is reminiscent of the manner in which Arab monarchies — afraid of
educating their subjects — bring in foreign experts. (Of course, the Saudis also
segregate these interlopers by invitation in separate compounds.)

The gusher elite

Members of Texas' old cotton-farming and cattle-ranching elite — allying
themselves

sometimes with wealthy immigrants like George Bush, Sr. — grew easily into an oil-
patch elite.


The strategy was always the same. First, buy land. Then, use market power to try to
rig the prices of the commodities on top of it — or the minerals underneath it.

Until it was replaced by OPEC, it was the Texas Railroad Commission that rigged
the world price for oil from the 1920s until the 1970s. A few years back, the wealthy
Hunt brothers of Fort Worth actually tried to corner the global silver market. Jim
Bowie must have congratulated Coronado in Hell.

A different breed

A minority of Texan leaders — mostly from poor or middle-class backgrounds —
have

shared a different vision. It is a vision of a high-tech, multi-racial Texas based on
brainpower and meritocracy — and not on resource extraction and inherited wealth.
These visionary modernizers — including Lyndon Johnson, Ross Perot and former
National Security Agency director Bobby Ray Inman — have sought to replace
Saudi-style commodity capitalism with Japanese-style state capitalism.


The logic that they have employed has been similar to that of modernizers in many
newly- industrializing countries. In such backward rural societies, the government
must lead the way in technological modernization.

Thanks to Lyndon Johnson's influence in the U.S. Congress in the 1930s and 1940s,
the federal government built the industrial infrastructure of Texas around
hydroelectric power. It was a bold move that helped to turn poor farmers into a
suburban middle class.

A military solution

In the 1980s and 1990s, Mr. Perot campaigned for higher educational standards in
Texas,

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Dick Cheney Complains About Leaks
Thu Jun 20, 1:05 PM ET
By JOHN J. LUMPKIN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Vice President Dick Cheney complained to lawmakers
Thursday about leaks that he believes led to disclosure of the National
Security Agency's Sept. 10 intercepts of at least two messages in Arabic
that suggested a major event was to take place the next day.

At President Bush's direction, Cheney called Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla.,
chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and Rep. Porter Goss, R-Fla.,
chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, to express the president's
concerns about this inappropriate disclosure, White House spokesman Ari
Fleischer said.

Fleischer called the disclosure alarmingly specific.

The information that is being provided to these committees is
extraordinarily sensitive, Fleischer said. The selective, inappropriate
leaking of snippets of information risks undermining national security, and
it risks undermining the promises made to protect this sensitive
information.

There was no immediate comment from Graham and Goss's offices. Their
committees are holding a joint inquiry into Sept. 11 attacks. Fleischer said
we do not know who did it, but Cheney's phone call seemed to point a
finger directly at the committees. Fleischer said Goss and Graham pledged to
address the matter wisely and properly.

Concern about possible leaks has been a key reason the White House has
opposed setting up an independent commission to investigate the attacks. The
commission has been sought by some lawmakers and relatives of the victims.

President Bush has said the intelligence panels were better positioned to
avoid leak. They understand the obligations of upholding our secrets and
our sources and methods of collecting intelligence, he said last month.

But Bush has clashed with Congress before over leaks. On Oct. 5, he issued a
memo limiting sensitive congressional briefings to the top leaders of the
House and Senate and their intelligence committees. He dropped the
restrictions a week later after getting assurances from Graham and Goss that
they would rein in their members.

Fleischer did not address questions from reporters about the NSA's
intercepts themselves. But he said that a 1998 leak — that American
intelligence agencies were eavesdropping on Osama bin Laden's satellite
phone conversations — led bin Laden to stop using that phone.

We are in the middle of a war, and one of the ways to prevent attacks on
the United States and to win the war is to be able to obtain information
from our enemies, Fleischer said. If the enemy learns of U.S. capabilities,
they're going to change their methods.

The Sept. 10 intercepts were not translated until Sept. 12. Intelligence
agencies aren't sure if it they were actually a warning of the attacks at
the World Trade Center and Pentagon, an intelligence source said Wednesday.

Even if they were, they provided no information that authorities could have
acted on, the intelligence source said. The mere mention of a time was
insufficient to provide clues of what was to come, the source said.

The messages, recorded in two separate conversations, contained the phrases,
Tomorrow is zero hour, and The match is about to begin, the intelligence
source said.

The messages were believed to be recorded from telephone conversations.

A U.S. intelligence official, while declining to comment on the NSA
intercepts, said a piece of raw intelligence that contains only a date
provides little useful information.

The official said that both before and 

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Thu Jun 20, 6:55 PM ET
By TONY CZUCZKA, Associated Press Writer

BERLIN (AP) - A Syrian-born businessman who knew Sept. 11 ringleader Mohamed
Atta and has been accused of operating an al-Qaida front lashed out at
President Bush on Thursday and denied any connection to terrorism.

Mamoun Darkazanli, described by the FBI as a well-connected agent of Osama
bin Laden, was questioned by German police shortly after the terrorist
attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. But he was freed for
lack of evidence and continues to live in Hamburg, Germany, where Atta and
two other hijackers had lived.

Speaking to The Associated Press in a telephone interview, Darkazanli
bristled when asked about connections to a number of al-Qaida suspects and
accused Bush of making unproven allegations.

I personally don't think they are terrorists. There must be an
international court for these people to be proven guilty, Darkazanli said.
Bush is not the judge of all of humanity.

Darkazanli, one of the first people to appear on U.S. suspect lists, has
denied any links to bin Laden or the Sept. 11 attacks.

The U.S. Treasury Department ordered a freeze of his personal assets and
those held by his import-export company.

German officials followed suit and placed him under formal investigation but
say they do not have enough evidence to detain him.

The German authorities hold nothing against me, and no one else holds
anything against me, Darkazanli said. The law in Germany works well.

Darkazanli has said previously that he attended the wedding of Said Bihaji,
one of the three men sought by German authorities for alleged links to the
Hamburg cell involved in Sept. 11. Also at the wedding was Atta, believed to
have been the ringleader of the attacks, and Ziad Jarrah, who was aboard
United Airlines flight 93 which crashed in rural Pennsylvania.

Darkazanli refused to discuss his relationship with Atta on Thursday.

Spanish authorities have alleged that Darkazanli knew Imad Yarkas, the
suspected leader of a cell which recruited for al-Qaida. The Syrian-born
Yarkas was arrested in Spain in November and became the first person charged
overseas in connection with Sept. 11.

Darkazanli first caught the attention of German investigators in 1998 when
they learned he had power of attorney over a German bank account opened by
bin Laden's suspected financial chief, Mamdouh Mahmud Salim. But Darkazanli
said the account access was for a business deal that fell through and that
he never heard from Salim again.

Darkazanli is not the only Syrian-born suspect connected to the Sept. 11
investigation whom German officials are interested in finding.

A government official in Berlin said Thursday that Germany has asked the
United States to help explain how Mohammed Haydar Zammar, who reportedly
recruited Atta while they both lived in Hamburg, ended up in custody in his
native Syria.

German investigators say they questioned Zammar immediately after the Sept.
11 attacks but let him go for lack of evidence. He then left Germany and was
arrested in Morocco under unclear circumstances. A German intelligence
official said this week that the Moroccans later sent him to Syria, where he
remains in custody.

The German Foreign Ministry said Thursday that it had asked Syria about the
case and was told that no German was in custody there. U.S. authorities
reportedly knew about the arrest but didn't tell Germany.

We have taken up the case with the Americans and asked for an explanation
in the case, said the official, who 

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Unsuppressed History:

Teacher Educates Youth Using Ruppert,

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by Carolyn Baker, Ph.D.

[Copyright 2002, From The Wilderness Publications, www.copvcia.com. All Rights Reserved. May be copied, distributed, or reposted on the worldwide web for non-profit purposes only.]

The world as I knew it before this semester no longer exists. Its like a dream, as if I had been living in wonderland, but then I woke up. The reality of our society hit me right in the face. Although what I learned in this class has disappointed me, Im glad to be given the opportunity of looking beyond my own personal lifeto be given a choice to care for what happens to all of us as a nation. The rule of law may not prevail, but we as individuals still have the freedom to make choices, and those choices can help to weaken those who are still seeking total control.

 

June 20, 2002, 15:00 PDT (FTW) -- These words were written by one of my U.S. history students in a survey course covering the period of 1865 to current time, after she had viewed Mike Rupperts video documentary The Truth  Lies of 9-11. I have designed this course, which explores the events following the Civil War known as Reconstruction, through the end of the 20th century, to culminate in an alternative examination of the events of Sept. 11. 

From the beginning of the course, we observed the burgeoning power of corporate Robber Barons in America following the Civil War and their ascendancy to economic and political dominance of the nation in the late-19th and early-20th centuries, attended by egregious racism and ethnocentrism among white Americans. 

We studied the eugenics movement that was funded and promoted by corporate giants such as Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, Kellogg, Harriman and Carnegie. As we explored the 1920s and 30s, we observed the dominant attitude of businessmen and politicians, which was: The business of America is business. Moreover, it became increasingly obvious that the imperialistic foreign policy of America at the turn of the century was economically essential in order to create markets for American goods produced by shamefully-exploited workers of African-American and European descent. 

We examined World War I and Hitlers rise to power in the 1930s and the ensuing attack on Pearl Harbor which ushered in World War II. Many students were completely unfamiliar with the fascism of the Third Reich, and their viewing of Schindlers List, which many had never seen, was a profoundly wrenching and eye-opening experience. Sociologist, James Loewen, writes, The glue that makes history stick is emotion. Clearly, these students will not soon shed the emotional impact of viewing then discussing Schindlers List and asking themselves if such crimes against humanity could ever happen again or happen in America.

Having never lived through the Red Scare of post-World War II America, it was difficult for my students to grasp anti-Communist hysteria. I tried to explain that in the early-1950s, being, or being suspected of being a Communist in America, was somewhat equivalent to being suspected of being a child molester in the 21st century. Nevertheless, they could not grasp the blatant violations of civil liberties during the 50s by the CIA, FBI and congressional committees investigating Communist activities. Particularly horrifying to them was the History Channel documentary, Mind Control: Americas Secret War, which outlined devastating 

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Unsuppressed History:

Teacher Educates Youth Using Ruppert,

Peter Dale Scott, Fitts As Sources

by Carolyn Baker, Ph.D.

[Copyright 2002, From The Wilderness Publications, www.copvcia.com. All Rights Reserved. May be copied, distributed, or reposted on the worldwide web for non-profit purposes only.]

The world as I knew it before this semester no longer exists. Its like a dream, as if I had been living in wonderland, but then I woke up. The reality of our society hit me right in the face. Although what I learned in this class has disappointed me, Im glad to be given the opportunity of looking beyond my own personal lifeto be given a choice to care for what happens to all of us as a nation. The rule of law may not prevail, but we as individuals still have the freedom to make choices, and those choices can help to weaken those who are still seeking total control.

 

June 20, 2002, 15:00 PDT (FTW) -- These words were written by one of my U.S. history students in a survey course covering the period of 1865 to current time, after she had viewed Mike Rupperts video documentary The Truth  Lies of 9-11. I have designed this course, which explores the events following the Civil War known as Reconstruction, through the end of the 20th century, to culminate in an alternative examination of the events of Sept. 11. 

From the beginning of the course, we observed the burgeoning power of corporate Robber Barons in America following the Civil War and their ascendancy to economic and political dominance of the nation in the late-19th and early-20th centuries, attended by egregious racism and ethnocentrism among white Americans. 

We studied the eugenics movement that was funded and promoted by corporate giants such as Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, Kellogg, Harriman and Carnegie. As we explored the 1920s and 30s, we observed the dominant attitude of businessmen and politicians, which was: The business of America is business. Moreover, it became increasingly obvious that the imperialistic foreign policy of America at the turn of the century was economically essential in order to create markets for American goods produced by shamefully-exploited workers of African-American and European descent. 

We examined World War I and Hitlers rise to power in the 1930s and the ensuing attack on Pearl Harbor which ushered in World War II. Many students were completely unfamiliar with the fascism of the Third Reich, and their viewing of Schindlers List, which many had never seen, was a profoundly wrenching and eye-opening experience. Sociologist, James Loewen, writes, The glue that makes history stick is emotion. Clearly, these students will not soon shed the emotional impact of viewing then discussing Schindlers List and asking themselves if such crimes against humanity could ever happen again or happen in America.

Having never lived through the Red Scare of post-World War II America, it was difficult for my students to grasp anti-Communist hysteria. I tried to explain that in the early-1950s, being, or being suspected of being a Communist in America, was somewhat equivalent to being suspected of being a child molester in the 21st century. Nevertheless, they could not grasp the blatant violations of civil liberties during the 50s by the CIA, FBI and congressional committees investigating Communist activities. Particularly horrifying to them was the History Channel documentary, Mind Control: Americas Secret War, which outlined devastating 

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Lt Vreeland Out-Psyops the Psyopers

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A SHORT EXPLANATION OF WHAT I AM UP TO AND WHY I DID IT.
JUST LIKE THE ART OF WAR


Well, it is pretty simple. The rules of war and strategy are 
numerous, however, there is always one strategy that must be 
followed. That strategy is a simple one and I cannot believe so many 
people have not noticed this.

The first and most important issue of war is knowing who your enemies 
are. Finding out who they are is not always the easiest thing to do 
so you need to run a little psyops on the masses yourself until you 
get the basher to come out of the foxhole. Once they come out, the 
take on followers and then you see all of the enemy's soldiers and 
then you allow them to play their game and just feed it a bit while 
waiting for the last few traitors to join the other side. Once you 
have sat back long enough you will then see your true enemies and 
then know who not to trust and whom you can.

It did not take me long to throw out a few bones for the enemy to 
come calling in this little war. Nope, not to long at all. I waited 
for them to try and set me up. What they did not know was that I was 
setting them up for the fall the entire time.

Example. The want to be writer Smith. AKA- BOSEHUGGER. I feed him and 
he took the bait. I then told him no, he gets pissed and then bashes 
me. Even admitting that he attacked my site several times in posts he 
made that I printed for future reference. I feed him a bone, it was 
so very hard and sour, he got pissed and his true colors came shining 
through. 

That is just a simpleton example but an example all the same. 

The radio station. I didn't do the interview that day for several 
reasons, yet the most part was a fake gag order. Second was the set 
up I was in for on that date. They did not want to get the story out, 
they wanted to do the same thing the rest of the enemy did, bash and 
discredit and kill and hide the real issues. I did not let them do 
what they wanted. True as it may be, they are bashing me; I am still 
in the winning circle. 

It is so easy to see that these people have no other agenda then 
bashing and discrediting me. The proof lies in what they say and ask 
and the way the comment on issues and statements I make. I say the 
sky is black. They say I said the sky was not blue. This is a simple 
point if you follow me. See, I said the sky is black and in fact it 
is. Yet they QUOTE ME as saying the sky is not blue. There is a 
significant difference here in the words used, as blue and black are 
2 different words and colors. They can quote me correctly as saying 
the sky is black and try and argue from their point and say it is 
blue. However, we all know that the argument, if attempted, would be 
wrong and meaningless as the sky is black. The sun is what lightens 
the sky and makes it appear to be blue. 

I know this may seem to be off point; however, it is just an example 
of the misquoting that they all do.

Then we get this MKULTRA crap. The child porno crap and the stealing 
and drugs and whatever else they can come up with. 

If I was to answer to all this as it rolled out the enemy would have 
constantly had some way to try and place a new swing to their 
arguments. To deny them the tools needed to advance upon me, which 
would be answers to the questions and statements to the accusations 
made by them at the time, would be like sending them weapons with no 
ammunition. That is what I have done so far.

There are some pretty bold statements made by many people regarding 
the information above. Kiddy porn, stealing, drugs, lies, fake 
documents, 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Lt Vreeland Out-Psyops the Psyopers

2002-06-21 Thread Samantha L.

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 The real
  documents will come out and these people who have had a chance to
  help with this and who have bashed me will be the last to ever know.
  I know who they all are and they have no clue what I know about them
  and that is a lot more then they know about me.

  This guy is a hoot and has far exceeded his fifteen minutes.

Laura

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[CTRL] AMERICAN troops cut out the tongues of Taliban prisoners and poured acid over their heads (fwd)

2002-06-21 Thread Party of Citizens

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'AMERICA TORTURED TALIBAN'
Sunday Mirror report
Saturday 22nd June 2002


AMERICAN troops cut out the tongues of Taliban prisoners and poured acid over their 
heads before ordering their deaths, a TV documentary claims.

The film Massacre At Mazar claims that the soldiers orchestrated the mass slaughter of 
al-Qaeda fighters during an uprising at the prison following the bloodiest battle of 
the Afghan war, at Mazar-e-Sharif.

One Northern Alliance soldier says in the film: The Americans did whatever they 
wanted. We had no power to stop them.

I was a witness when an American soldier broke one prisoner's neck and poured 
acid-like substances on others.

Another witness claims four prisoners were beaten unconscious by US soldiers, then 
disappeared.

He says: They cut their hair and poured acid or something on to them. They were 
screaming and jumping up and down. They had a black stick and beat them.

The US and Northern Alliance have always denied claims of a massacre at the 
Qala-i-Janghi fortress in Mazar-e-Sharif.

The evidence of new atrocities comes after the Sunday Mirror published pictures of the 
horrific treatment of Taliban fighters held at another camp, Shibarghan - dubbed the 
Afghan Auschwitz.

The film, made by British producer Jamie Doran, and shown to the German parliament 
last week, also tells how 8,000 Taliban prisoners were rounded up and transported in 
metal containers to Shirbaghan.

A driver of one of the trucks says many prisoners died of thirst in the stifling 
containers.

Another witness admits to accidental fatalities when he shot holes in the side of 
containers to allow prisoners to breath.

He says: They were crying for air. I hit the side with bullets to create air - and 
some were killed.

And two men claim they were forced to drive hundreds of Taliban into the desert where 
they were shot while up to 40 US soldiers looked on.

The film is based on testimonies from six witnesses, including a senior army officer. 
All have agreed to give evidence at any future war crimes tribunal.

Last night human rights lawyer Andrew McEntee, former chairman of Amnesty 
International UK, called for the allegations to be investigated.

He said: These alleged crimes would carry a life imprisonment in many countries.

A US Army spokesman said later: We have been asked about allegations that Taliban 
prisoners were executed while US special forces soldiers stood by and watched. We 
checked and didn't have anything to substantiate those allegations.

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[CTRL] VICTOR THORN FOR PRESIDENT, THE OUTSIDER PARTY

2002-06-21 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.bankindex.com/read.asp?ID=859



VICTOR THORN FOR PRESIDENT, THE OUTSIDER PARTY 

This is what we need.   

PLATFORM

* Expose the Globalist international bankers that control the United States Government from behind the scenes, then permanently eradicate them from our political system. 
* Abolish the Federal Reserve. 
* Default on that portion of our National Debt which is owed to the international bankers. A savings of $359 billion a year on interest payments. (see table one) 
* Return the creation of money to Congress as it was prior to 1913. 
* Abolish all Globalist trade agreements such as NAFTA and GATT. 
* Impose a tariff on all goods being imported into this country. 
* Prohibit ownership of more than ONE media source by any individual or corporation. 
* Remove the Federal Government from any endeavor that the private sector can perform. Savings from transferring the Postal Service would be $17 billion a year, and over $500 million for Amtrak. 
* End all Federal funding to public education and return it to a state and/or local level. A savings of $50.3 billion a year. 
* Abolish the Voter News Service (VNS) and computerized vote tallying, thus allowing election results to be determined by the voters, not a single corporation. 
* Institute a flat tax with no loopholes, virtually eliminating the IRS. A savings of $10.4 billion a year. 
* Pass a balanced budget bill, insured by the fact that all Congressmen get paid last. 
* Greatly reduce campaign contributions of any kind (not allowed as tax write-offs or business expenses), and replace them with Internet campaigns. 
* Allow the States to vote upon which Federal laws they wish to alter or eliminate. 
* All Social Security and Medicaid payments should be forwarded to an individual's bank account, not the Federal Government, thus allowing the citizens to not only collect interest on this money, but to also to invest a certain percentage as they see fit. The savings would be enormous. 
* Open 99% of all government files - no more hiding behind a "National Security" blanket. (example: John Lennon's file) 
* All Federally elected government officials will be limited to one-term. 
* Institute an accountability for the "bureaucracy culture" - perks, etc. 
* Freeze all foreign aid. A savings of $25 billion a year. 
* Leave unchanged all expenditures to the military, entitlement  social programs, and other Federal agencies. 
* Greatly reduce legal immigration, and severely outlaw illegal immigration (there are now 8.7 illegal immigrants in this country) 
* Make it illegal for corporations to establish offshore and overseas bank accounts to avoid paying income taxes. A mere 10% increase in the collected total of corporate income taxes would raise $20 billion in revenue. 
* Expose the plethora of underground bases and installations being maintained by our government (ex: Mount Weather) 
* Prohibit the CIA and other Intelligence agencies from generating black-budget money via illegal activities such as drug trafficking, arms sales, and money laundering. 
* Immediately eliminate corporate welfare, tax breaks, and business subsidies. A savings of $150 billion a year. 
* Develop hydrogen as an alternative to fossil fuels. 
* Outlaw the spraying of poisonous chemicals (Chem Trails) in our skies. 
* Introduce legislation into the United Nations that outlaws the implantation of computer microchips into humans, cloning, designer babies, and mind control experiments by participating nations. 
* Expose the truth behind who created the AIDS virus (it is a man-made disease), then find a cure for it immediately (if it doesn't already exist). 

TABLE ONE: 

National Debt: $5.9 trillion 
Amount owed to intranational banks: $2.54 trillion 
Amount owed to the public: $3.38 trillion 
Percentage of debt held by intranational banks: 37% 
Interest per year on National Debt: $359 billion 

Result: Default on all debts to international bankers, then make a one-time payoff to all public holders of the debt, thus getting the Federal Government out of the borrowing business. 

RESULTS: 

* The above listed initiatives would result in savings of $632.2 billion per year, which would result in a 30% reduction in our current $2.05 trillion budget. 
* If we also impose tariffs on all goods imported into this country, totaling $1.4 trillion per year, and tax those at 5%, we could generate $700 billion a year. 
* Thus, if we total the above: $632.2 billion from the savings outlined in the Outsider Party's platform, and $700 billion in revenue from tariffs, the total is $1.332 trillion. Now, if we subtract that from the $2.05 trillion dollar budget, the difference is only $718 billion dollars. 
* At the current time, taxpayers furnish (via income taxes) approximately $1.02 trillion of the $2.05 trillion dollar budget, which equals 49%. But if we trim $1.332 trillion from the $2.05 trillion dollar budget, this means personal income taxes will be eliminated (with 

[CTRL] THE SECRET COVENANT. Full version, rated R !

2002-06-21 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.bankindex.com/read.asp?ID=861



THE SECRET COVENANT. Full version, rated R !
THE SECRET COVENANT


An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their
perception. 

Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.

We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the
connection between us. 

We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive.
Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring
suspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing 
the changes as they occur.

We will always stand above the relative field of their experience
for we know the secrets of the absolute. 

We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and 
secrecy. Death will come to he who speaks.

We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while 
pretending to do the opposite.

We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle
ways so they will never see what is happening.

We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in
food and water, also in the air.

They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn. 

The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds. We will
promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will
feed them more poison.

The poisons will be absorbed trough their skin and mouths,
they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.

>From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal 
this information.

The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them,
in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear. 

We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they
can see far. 

We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images
and musical tones.

Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to 
push our poisons.

They will see our products being used in film and
will grow accustomed to them and will never know
their true effect.

When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood
of their children and convince them its for their help.

We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will
target their children with what children love most, sweet
things. 

When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals
that will kill their mind and steal their future.

When their ability to learn has been affected,
we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other
diseases for which we will create yet more medicine.

We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.

They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they
come to us for help, we will give them more poison.

We will focus their attention toward money and material goods
so they many never connect with their inner self. We will distract
them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may
never be one with the oneness of it all.

Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say.
If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology
into their lives. We will use fear as our weapon.

We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. 
We will own both sides. 

We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan.

They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from their toil.

Our families will never mix with theirs. Our blood must be pure 
always, for it is the way.

We will make them kill each other when it suits us.

We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion.

We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how.

We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding 
themselves.

We will foment animosity between them through our factions.

When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, 
or death, whichever suits us best.

We will make them rip each other's hearts apart and kill their own children.

We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend.

The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their
conflicts we emerge as their rulers. They will be busy killing each other.

They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long 
as we see fit.

We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they 
cannot see us.

We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.

We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is 
accomplished.

We will continue to make them live in fear and anger 
though images and sounds.

We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this. 

The tools will be provided by their labor.

We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors.

We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one. 
This they must never know!

They must never know that color is an illusion, they must always
think they are not equal.

Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.

We will take over their land, resources and wealth 

[CTRL] Middle East debate - time for plain speaking

2002-06-21 Thread William Shannon
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Middle East debate - time for plain speaking

It has not been quite normal service for the pro-Israeli media machine this week, The British Prime Ministers wife, Cherie Blair was honest enough to make a perfectly fair remark that it is a pity that so many young Palestinians feel they have little alternative to wrapping explosives around their body and killing yet more Israelis. Surely every bereaved Israeli family would echo that view? Ted Turner owner of CNN went further accusing both Israel and the Palestinians of using terrorist tactics, bringing a storm of abuse from the Jewish lobby upon his head.

Why this highly charged sensitivity by Israel and its supporters? Israel is a state founded largely on a very successful terrorist campaign by the Stern Gang and the Irgun against British Servicemen and civilians. Israel must be one of the few modern, supposedly democratic nations that has elected two wanted terrorists Begin and Shamir and a third accused of something akin to war crimes by his own Government Sharon, to the office of Prime Minister.

Israel has used assassination and terror-like tactics throughout the Middle East and Europe for much of the last forty years, without too much complaint or interference from its Western supporters. Israel has stolen nuclear
materials, attacked a US Navy vessel killing many Americans on board, shot down civilian aircraft, launched an air attack on Iraqi nuclear facilities at a time when the Baghdad regime was still seen as a valuable Western ally,
spied on the United States, ignored countless UN resolutions and many other actions which if carried out by a Muslim nation would have brought a violent and angry response from Washington and London.

Even-handed approach is the only way forward

However, admitting the truth about Israel should not be seen as excusing or encouraging Islamic terrorism. None of the Arab nations are exactly peons of virtue, dedicated to democracy, the protection of civil rights or the
emancipation of women. Many in the Arab world are racist demagogues, their nations dictatorships with an appalling record of human abuse and a record of stupidity and intransigence when it comes to diplomatic efforts
to solve the problems of Palestine and over the acceptance of Israel as part of the Middle East community of nations.

Both the Palestinians and the Israelis are at heart sophisticated and reasonable people. They both have much to offer each other and the region as a whole. However, the similarities don't just end there. Both are bloody
minded, vengeful and willing to use extreme violence against each other. The most constructive change in attitude amongst Western Governments and the news Media would be to take a more even handed approach to the problems of the Middle East, in other words stop taking sides. Washington has a vital role to play as a honest broker in future peace negotiations, but to achieve the maximum benefit, trust between America and the Palestinians and the wider Arab world must be quickly restored.

To be frank that is unlikely to happen while the Bush administration is so obviously being 'bossed' by right-wing Zionists and in truth the US Government has now lost virtually all credibility outside Israel and a few Arab client states.Whether Colin Powell and the few remaining level-headed members of the current administration can still finally produce a viable and balanced approach to the immense and threatening problems of the region will
determine the chances of a lasting peace for a generation or more.

Time for peace running out

The signs are not good from the USA nor in Israel's response to the latest Islamic terrorist outrage. Israel has been in illegal occupation of large areas of Arab land for 35 years and it has not brought the Jews peace or
security. The building of a new Berlin-wall style security zone and the Israeli threat to virtually annexe an additional area of Palestinian land every time a suicide bomber strikes is madness. Will it be 10 or perhaps
30 more suicide bombings before Israel has seized the entire West Bank? Israel will be left with a permanent security problem as the occupying power with no remaining options for a negotiated settlement and the
growing enmity of the entire Muslim world.

Time is running out quickly for Washington's efforts to find a way out of this impasse, and Iraq, Iran, Syria and the War on Terrorism are still waiting their turn.

Richard M. Bennett





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[CTRL] Motion M-527 - MP Svend Robinson on Canada leading ban on space weapons

2002-06-21 Thread Ecotoday

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Motion M-527 - MP Svend Robinson on Canada leading international ban on space
weapons

(le français suit l'anglais)

HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
Debates
Motion on the Order Paper

June 20th, 2002
Weaponization of Space

M-527 - June 20, 2002 - Mr. Robinson (Burnaby-Douglas) - On or after
Thursday, July 4, 2002 - That, in the opinion of this House the government
should, given the termination of the Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty and
U.S. military plans to include space-based weapons in the National Missile
Defence (NMD) system, lead an international effort to ban the introduction of
all weapons in space through a binding international agreement against the
weaponization of space.



CHAMBRE DES COMMUNES
Débats
Motion sur le Feuilleton

Le 20 juin 2002
L'arsenalisation de l'espace

M-527 - 20 juin 2002 - M. Robinson (Burnaby-Douglas) - À compter du jeudi 4
juillet 2002 - Que, de l'avis de la Chambre, le gouvernement devrait prendre
l'initiative des efforts internationaux afin d'interdire l'arsenalisation de
l'espace dans le cadre d'un accord international ayant force obligatoire,
étant donné l'extinction du Traité sur les missiles anti-missiles balistiques
(ABM) et les plans des militaires américains visant à implanter des armes
dans le système national de défense antimissile (NMD).

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[CTRL] TREASON IS THE REASON: Mystery spies outed by FBI whistleblower

2002-06-21 Thread William Shannon
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June 21, 2002 
TREASON IS THE REASON
Mystery spies outed by FBI whistleblower

The US government can be compared to a woman with a horribly disfigured – indeed, a downright grotesque – face, who, nonetheless, manages to hide her increasingly ugly mug with such an array of near-miraculous cosmetics, roseate lighting, and diversionary tactics that the casual observer is fooled into beholding what he believes is a great beauty. But every once in a great while the mask slips at a moment when the lighting is cruelly revealing, and we get a glimpse of the horror that lurks beneath. In the wake of 9/11, federal law enforcement agencies have indeed been seen in a new – and especially cruel – light. Where were they when Osama bin Laden and fellow ghouls were plotting the destruction of the WTC and the Pentagon right here under our noses? The picture that has emerged, at least up until very recently, is one of incompetence on the level of the Keystone Kops, a tragi-comedy of errors – but now, it appears, that is the very least of it….

The mask is slipping badly, now, and the spotlight is shining brightly, revealing not just stupidity, bureaucratic ineptitude, and inter-departmental competition, but also – treason. For nothing less than treason is the reason yet another FBI whistle-blower is making headlines with revelations that make Coleen Rowley's charges of high-level obstructionism in the Zacarias Moussaoui case look relatively innocuous. "2 FBI Whistle-Blowers Allege Lax Security, Possible Espionage," the Washington Post headline modestly avers, but that is putting it rather too mildly. Not since Whittaker Chambers exposed a Stalinist nest high in the topmost branches of the US government has the light been shone on such a deep – and dangerous – penetration of the nation's high security innards. Sibel Edmonds, 32, a former wiretap translator in the FBI's Washington field office, has stepped forward with a shocking narrative of official obstructionism and high-level espionage that breaks down into four stunning accusations:

1) One of her fellow FBI translators, a so-far-unidentified woman, "belonged to the Middle Eastern organization whose taped conversations she had been translating for FBI counterintelligence agents," according to the Post. "This person told us she worked for our target organization," Edmonds says. "These are the people we are targeting, monitoring." This other translator also met with "a foreign official subject to the surveillance." Furthermore, says Edmonds, this woman (and her husband, a military officer) "tried to recruit her to join the targeted foreign group."

2) As Edmonds wrote in a March letter to the inspector general's office: "Investigations are being compromised. Incorrect or misleading translations are being sent to agents in the field. Translations are being blocked and circumvented."

3) This mysterious "Middle Eastern organization" had a definite preference insofar as to how the FBI's wiretaps were translated – and by whom. Edmonds says that the woman presented her with "a list dividing up individuals whose phone lines were being secretly tapped: Under the plan, the woman would translate conversations of her former co-workers in the target organization, and Edmonds would handle other phone calls." When Edmonds refused, "the woman told her that her lack of cooperation could put her family in danger."

4) When she went to her bosses with this information, Edmonds – instead of being thanked, and given a medal – was summarily fired for being "disruptive."

One has to ask: "disruptive" of what? The spy nest ensconced so firmly in the upper reaches of US "law enforcement"? 

Before going any further, let's clear up the matter of this mysterious "Middle Eastern organization" that takes such an active interest in – and apparently has such an all-pervasive influence over – the internal workings of our very own FBI. "Officials asked that the name of the target group not be revealed for national security reasons," the Post reports, yet enough clues are buried – and not very deeply – throughout this story by James V. Grimaldi that we can narrow the possible suspects to a considerable degree. While Edmonds is so far refusing to identify this snake hiding amid the high grass of the FBI's Washington compound, the Post tells us:

"She is a 33-year-old U.S. citizen whose native country is home to the target group. Both Edmonds and the other translator are US citizens who trace their ethnicity to the same Middle Eastern country."

A friend with access to Lexis-Nexis – hey, we can't afford such bourgeois luxuries here at Antiwar.com! Whaddaya think this is: the Weekly Standard? – informs me that there is indeed a Sibel Edmonds, 33, of Northern Virginia, formerly Sibel Ganiz or Sibel Deniz, the latter a Turkish name, although Sibel is perhaps Jewish or Armenian. Another bit of evidence: 

[CTRL] Scott Ritter- Behind 'Plot' on Hussein, a Secret Agenda

2002-06-21 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0619-01.htm



Published on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 in the Los Angeles Times 

Behind 'Plot' on Hussein, a Secret Agenda
Killing weapons inspections would clear way for war.

by Scott Ritter


President Bush has reportedly authorized the CIA to use all of the means at its disposal--including U.S. military special operations forces and CIA paramilitary teams--to eliminate Iraq's Saddam Hussein. According to reports, the CIA is to view any such plan as "preparatory" for a larger military strike. 

Congressional leaders from both parties have greeted these reports with enthusiasm. In their rush to be seen as embracing the president's hard-line stance on Iraq, however, almost no one in Congress has questioned why a supposedly covert operation would be made public, thus undermining the very mission it was intended to accomplish. 

It is high time that Congress start questioning the hype and rhetoric emanating from the White House regarding Baghdad, because the leaked CIA plan is well timed to undermine the efforts underway in the United Nations to get weapons inspectors back to work in Iraq. In early July, the U.N. secretary-general will meet with Iraq's foreign minister for a third round of talks on the return of the weapons monitors. A major sticking point is Iraqi concern over the use--or abuse--of such inspections by the U.S. for intelligence collection. 

I recall during my time as a chief inspector in Iraq the dozens of extremely fit "missile experts" and "logistics specialists" who frequented my inspection teams and others. Drawn from U.S. units such as Delta Force or from CIA paramilitary teams such as the Special Activities Staff (both of which have an ongoing role in the conflict in Afghanistan), these specialists had a legitimate part to play in the difficult cat-and-mouse effort to disarm Iraq. So did the teams of British radio intercept operators I ran in Iraq from 1996 to 1998--which listened in on the conversations of Hussein's inner circle--and the various other intelligence specialists who were part of the inspection effort. 

The presence of such personnel on inspection teams was, and is, viewed by the Iraqi government as an unacceptable risk to its nation's security. 

As early as 1992, the Iraqis viewed the teams I led inside Iraq as a threat to the safety of their president. They were concerned that my inspections were nothing more than a front for a larger effort to eliminate their leader. 

Those concerns were largely baseless while I was in Iraq. Now that Bush has specifically authorized American covert-operations forces to remove Hussein, however, the Iraqis will never trust an inspection regime that has already shown itself susceptible to infiltration and manipulation by intelligence services hostile to Iraq, regardless of any assurances the U.N. secretary-general might give. 

The leaked CIA covert operations plan effectively kills any chance of inspectors returning to Iraq, and it closes the door on the last opportunity for shedding light on the true state of affairs regarding any threat in the form of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. 

Absent any return of weapons inspectors, no one seems willing to challenge the Bush administration's assertions of an Iraqi threat. If Bush has a factual case against Iraq concerning weapons of mass destruction, he hasn't made it yet. 

Can the Bush administration substantiate any of its claims that Iraq continues to pursue efforts to reacquire its capability to produce chemical and biological weapons, which was dismantled and destroyed by U.N. weapons inspectors from 1991 to 1998? The same question applies to nuclear weapons. What facts show that Iraq continues to pursue nuclear weapons aspirations? 

Bush spoke ominously of an Iraqi ballistic missile threat to Europe. What missile threat is the president talking about? These questions are valid, and if the case for war is to be made, they must be answered with more than speculative rhetoric. 

Congress has seemed unwilling to challenge the Bush administration's pursuit of war against Iraq. The one roadblock to an all-out U.S. assault would be weapons inspectors reporting on the facts inside Iraq. Yet without any meaningful discussion and debate by Congress concerning the nature of the threat posed by Baghdad, war seems all but inevitable. 

The true target of the supposed CIA plan may not be Hussein but rather the weapons inspection program itself. The real casualty is the last chance to avoid bloody conflict. 


Scott Ritter, a former U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq, is author of "Endgame: Solving the Iraq Problem, Once and for All" (Simon  Schuster, 1999).




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Re: [CTRL] AMERICAN troops cut out the tongues of Taliban prisoners and poure...

2002-06-21 Thread Samantha L.

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In a message dated 6/21/02 5:56:18 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is this true?

The on-line news site Jama'at-ud-Da'awa   http://www.markazdawa.org/ has
the UK Mirror article posted on their website, and the article you responded
to is on the UK Sunday Mirror site.

According to this next article, it would appear that the massacre was in
November,  implying last November.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/06/13/1023864326176.html

excerpt

Massacre at Mazar describes how thousands of Taliban troops were rounded up
after the battle of Kunduz in November and taken in sealed shipping
containers to Sheberghan prison, a jail then under US control in
north-western Afghanistan.


Then there is a radio show, CounterSpin, that discusses this, dated December
7 - 14, 2001.  It affirms they are talking about a massacre in November 2001:

http://www.webactive.com/webactive/cspin/cspin20011207.html

A massacre of Taliban prisoners at a Northern Alliance compound has human
rights groups and very few journalists demanding an investigation. But most
media outlets don't seem to be pursuing the killing of hundreds of soldiers
under the control of the US-backed Northern Alliance. Veteran human rights
journalists and executive editor of MediaChannel.org Danny Schechter will
join CounterSpin to talk about coverage of the prison massacre at
Mazar-i-Sharif.

(click on listen to the entire program and go to 8:27 for the segment to
begin.  The segment-specific link is the intro, not the section it's supposed
to be.)
-

Human Rights Watch has a report The Massacre in Mazir-I Sharif.  It's
about events that occurred in 1998 and makes no mention in the summary of US
involvement.

http://store.yahoo.com/hrwpubs/af11.html

This report documents a massacre of civilians and other serious breaches of
international humanitarian law committed in Afghanistan in August 1998. The
incident, which occurred in Mazar-i Sharif, a city in northern Afghanistan,
represents one of the single worst examples of killings of civilians in
Afghanistan’s twenty-year war. No foreigners or press were allowed in the
city or its environs at the time, and only a few humanitarian organizations
have been permitted to carry out relief work in the city since the incident.
Human Rights Watch is the first international human rights organization to
interview survivors who have reached Pakistan in the weeks following the
massacre. In the report, we urge the United Nations to undertake an urgent
investigation into the massacre and the full range of abuses that took place
in Mazar-i Sharif, including 1997 killings of Taliban soldiers in the city
that motivated those involved in the subsequent offensive to seek revenge.
Human Rights Watch believes that determining the truth about what happened
represents the first step toward accountability and may provide a means
toward breaking the cycle of revenge killings that continue to characterize
the civil war in Afghanistan.

AFGHANISTAN: The Massacre in Mazar-I Sharif, 11/98 C1007$3.00
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Two different massacres?  One in 1998 and one in 2001?  It would appear so.


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  Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 05:08:40 +0700
  From: DDN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
  Subject: AMERICAN troops cut out the tongues of Taliban prisoners and
  poured acid over their heads


  'AMERICA TORTURED TALIBAN'
  Sunday Mirror report
  Saturday 22nd June 2002


  AMERICAN troops cut out the tongues of Taliban prisoners and poured acid
 over their heads before ordering their deaths, a TV documentary claims.

  The film Massacre At Mazar claims that the soldiers orchestrated the mass
 slaughter of al-Qaeda fighters during an uprising at the prison following
the
 bloodiest battle of the Afghan war, at Mazar-e-Sharif.

  One Northern Alliance soldier says in the film: The Americans did
whatever
 they wanted. We had no power to stop them.

  I was a witness when an American soldier broke one prisoner's neck and
 poured acid-like substances on others.

  Another witness claims four prisoners were beaten unconscious by US
soldiers,
  then disappeared.

  He says: They cut their hair and poured acid or something on to them.
They
 were screaming and jumping up and down. They had a black stick and beat
them.


  The US and Northern Alliance have always denied claims of a massacre at
the
 Qala-i-Janghi fortress in Mazar-e-Sharif.

  The evidence of new atrocities comes after the Sunday Mirror published
 pictures of the horrific treatment of Taliban fighters held at another
camp,
 Shibarghan - dubbed the Afghan Auschwitz.

  The film, made by British producer Jamie Doran, and shown to the German
 parliament last week, also tells how 8,000 Taliban prisoners were rounded
up
 and transported in metal containers to Shirbaghan.

  A driver of one of the trucks says many prisoners died of thirst in the
 stifling containers.

  Another 

[CTRL] Fw: Review Of BBC Documentary On Sex Trade In Bosnia, Kosovo

2002-06-21 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic
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Rozoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
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Wednesday, June 19, 2002 6:23 PMSubject: Review Of BBC Documentary On Sex 
Trade In Bosnia, Kosovo [This is a personal, in every sense of 
the word, review of a recent BBC documentary on the epidemic sex 
slave trade introduced under the auspices of NATO occupation in Bosnia 
and the Serbian province of Kosovo. The reviewer lives in Belgium, from 
where she watched the program. The very title of this 
halfhearted expose is painful to read, as it trivializes crimes against 
humanity and against women in particular that are arguably the 
worst in the world currently. Several aid agencies have estimated that 
500,000 Eastern European girls and young women are duped and 
abducted into the brutal and dehumanizing sex slave industry based 
primarily in NATO-administered Bosnia and Kosovo every year. 
Every year. If a single, say, American or English girl were to 
suffer this fate the world press would feature screaming headlines 
condemning this sordid practice, a blot on the conscience of 
humankind. But when Russia, Romania, Moldova, Bulgaria and other 
impoverished nations have hundreds of thousands of their daughters 
kidnapped, raped, drugged, tormented, violated and sold like so much 
cheap chattel the so-called civilized world is conspicuously 
silent about it, especially as the perpetrators of these 
unspeakable crimes are more often than not Western clients on whose 
behalf the US and NATO have gone to war against innocent nations and 
peoples. Particularly absent among those expressing concern over 
this plague of modern slavery are the New York and London based 'human 
rights' professionals, who are adept at urging on the bombing of 
sovereign nations, but who immediatey lose interest in the victims 
once the aggression has ended.]
 I saw the documentary: Boys Will Be Boys (BBC 2-Correspondent) 
on Sunday. I must admit that I felt phisically sick. Every single native 
confirmed that all that mess started after the 'liberators' moved 
in. And Mr Klein lied about the accusations of the young 
Romanian girl ( she has indentified 17 men out of 20 from the photos Mr 
Klein showed her during his visit in Romania on other business, but he 
had just drooped by?!) who was saved by an Argentinian official 
serving in Bosnia at the time of her enslavement. And guess 
what: The Latino was dismissed and sent back to his country. The girl 
was bewildered. First a man of Mr Klein's position does not do this sort 
of thing that  he did with the girl, and that is against the 
procedure. What happend to the real culprits? Nothing. Most of them are 
Americans, and Mr Klein is a US citizen, and in a high position, and he 
went personally to Romania and lied to the journalist who made 
this programme, and did not want to show the document (he claims 
existed) about his 'interview' of the Romanian girl.  In the 
meantime the whole enterprise is booming in Bosnia  Kosovo, and 
soon in Afghanistan,...  All that made me so sick, apart from my real 
physical conditions these days (which are very bad)  Is all this 
misery ever going to be fought against and defeated? D 
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Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) LP RELEASE: Southwest Airlines and jumbo flyers

2002-06-21 Thread - Anonymous
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Well, if the policies on overweight people are passed...then the next to go will be the ugly people...they will have to fly at night so the pretty people won't have to look at them. Then the people who can't afford nice clothing will have to fly either with the ugly people at night or on designated poor day. THen of course will be the assault on caffeine, it makes certain people too jumpy and can cause unsettlement if they are upset. Then, before you know it, all of the ill people will have to be shipped to the moon because the healthy people won't want the weight of having to care for them on their shoulders. Then...why not kill all of the old people...or at least designate a state just for the geriatrics. That way slow drivers won't be in our way and June Allyson's depends can be shipped to one state and one state only clearing the aisles in the stores for more things for the thin, pretty, well-dressed rich people to buy. The insane will be shipped out with the sick and anyone that is less than perfect and makes less than 200,000.00 a year will have the choice of living and doing and buying whatever they want.

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Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) LP RELEASE: Southwest Airlines and jumbo flyers

2002-06-21 Thread M.A. Johnson

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A Coward
 Well, if the policies on overweight people are passed...then
 the next to go will be the ugly people...they will have to fly at
 night so the pretty people won't have to look at them.  Then
snip

MJ
Start you OWN fucking airline and run it how YOU want.

Regard$,
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agrees to give him in exchange the object of his desires. To
deprive him of this option . . . solely to satisfy the convenience
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] Mind Control Pt 2

2002-06-21 Thread - Anonymous
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Would someone send the portion of Mind Control Part 1? Thanks...for some reason I didn't receive it.

Thanks!
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Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) LP RELEASE: Southwest Airlines and jumbo flyers

2002-06-21 Thread - Anonymous
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Well, MJ... I think I will start with a mouth cleaning business and start with yours...

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Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) LP RELEASE: Southwest Airlines and jumbo flyers

2002-06-21 Thread - Anonymous
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MJ Must be one of the rich pretty people yes...yeshe/she will balk at keeping the ugly people!
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[CTRL] New technology for catching liars poses privacy, moral problems

2002-06-21 Thread Steve Wingate

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New technology for catching liars poses privacy, moral problems

Copyright © 2002 AP Online

By CHRISTOPHER NEWTON, Associated Press

WASHINGTON (June 21, 2002 3:41 p.m. EDT) - The world is
becoming a trickier place for people who tell lies - even little
white ones.

From thermal-imaging cameras, designed to read guilty eyes, to
brain-wave scanners, which essentially watch a lie in motion, the
technology of truth-seeking is leaping forward.

At the same time, more people are finding their words put to the
test, especially those who work for the government.

FBI agents, themselves subjected to more polygraphs as a result
of the Robert Hanssen spy case, have been administering lie
detection tests at Fort Detrick, Md., and Dugway Proving Ground
in Utah, bases with stores of anthrax. Nuclear plant workers also
are getting the tests in greater numbers since Sept. 11.

There has been a reawakening of our interest in being able to
determine the truth from each other, said sociologist Barbara
Hetnick, who teaches a course on lying at Wooster College. As
technology advances, we may have to decide whether we want
to let a machine decide guilt or innocence.

The new frontiers of lie detection claim to offer greater reliability
than the decades-old polygraph, which measures heart and
respiratory rates as a person answers questions.

They also pose new privacy problems, moral dilemmas and the
possibility that the average person will unwittingly face a test.

At the Mayo Clinic, researchers hope to perfect a heat-sensing
camera that could scan people's faces and find subtle changes
associated with lying. In a small study of 20 people, the high-
resolution thermal imaging camera detected a faint blushing
around the eyes of those who lied.

The technique, still preliminary, could provide a simple and rapid
way of scanning people being questioned at airports or border
crossings, researchers say.

But would it be legal?

As long as no one was being arrested or detained solely on the
basis of the test, there is no law against scanning someone's
face with a device, said Justin Hammerstein, a civil liberties
attorney in New York.

You could use the device to subject someone to greater scrutiny
in a physical search or background check, and it would be hard
to argue that it is illegal.

Barry Steinhardt of the American Civil Liberties Union said any
technology that isn't 100 percent effective could lead unfairly to
innocent travelers being stranded at airports.

You would be introducing chaos into the situation and inevitably
focusing on people who are innocent, Steinhardt said.

At the University of Pennsylvania, researcher Daniel Langleben
is using a magnetic resonance imaging machine, the device
used to detect tumors, to identify parts of the brain that people
use when they lie.

In the brain, you never get something for nothing, Langleben
said. The process for telling a lie is more complicated than
telling the truth, resulting in more neuron activity.

Even for the smoothest-talker, lying is tough work for the brain.

First, the liar must hear the question and process it. Almost by
instinct, a liar will first think of the true answer before devising or
speaking an already devised false answer.

All that thinking adds up to a lot of electrical signals shooting
back and forth. Langleben says the extra thought makes some
sections of the brain light up like a bulb when viewed with an MRI.


MRI machines are bulky, but their potential as lie detectors could
lead to the invention of smaller, more specialized versions,
Langleben said.

Other tests are on the market, although how well they perform is
an open question.

Hand-held voice stress detectors already are being sold for
$300 to $600 at some department stores and on the Internet.

Makers claim the devices show when a person's voice trembles
under the stress of a lie. Although skeptics say there is no proof
they work, police in Philadelphia, Los Angeles and Miami are
using more advanced versions and say they sometimes prompt
confessions.

Also, the subject need not be present. Police can record a
suspect's voice and check it for stress later.

Not everyone is sold on it.

Voices can shake because people are scared about being
interrogated by police, said Thomas Jakes, president of People
for Civil Rights. This technology is nothing but a way to scare
people.

Critics say failure on any lie detector test can have unfair
consequences, regardless of what the truth may be.

Mark Mallah says he was suspended and put under 24-hour
surveillance after failing a routine polygraph test in 1994, when
he was an FBI counterintelligence agent.

He was finally cleared and reinstated 19 months later. He quit.

They never produced any evidence or came forward with
anything, but the polygraph still undermined my career, said
Mallah, who practices law in San Francisco.

In the CIA, routine polygraphs led to the suspicion of dozens of
agents in the 1980s. Many were kept in 

[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] WTC, Buffet, China, Offnut AFB base, L-3 , MONTAUK, BMI and CIA

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Dick Eastman is suddenly not able to post to
yahoogroups. I am beginning to have difficulties as
well. Is it just a coincidence that we are sorting
out the following information at the same time?

~

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psy-op/message/9439

From: Agent Smiley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: RED_HOT_RAW_DATA_-_PRC_AND_911

--- Patrick Flaherty wrote:

 According to an article Iread, L-3 was launched
 after meeting between Bill GATES of Microsoft,
 Walter Scott, Jr (pres/CEO PETER KIEWET  SONS) and
 Wall street billionaire WARREN BUFFETT. A case can
 be made that new high tech ideas are passed from
 OFFNUT to Omaha based execs.

punch in Q33 into wing dings [a type of font] and out
comes two symbols: an airplane and a skull/crossbones

also, a couple of people have mentioned to me that on
september 10 bill gates traded more shares on the
market than ever in his life...this ought to be
verifiable...i will see what i can find..


 Scott is now on Board of L-3 and on that Board are a
 number of business execs from Omaha including its
 Pres/CEO JAMES CROWE.
 Both Scott and Buffett figure prominently in the
 FRANKLIN COVER UP and that is how In
 stumbled upon their association to birth L-3.

 Per Skolnick, BUFFETT is deeply involved with CIA.
 I have to wonder if the secrets of this technlogy
 were leaked to the Chinese or stolen by them and
then
 recycled to MONTAUK which I understand is managed
 by BATTELLE MEMORIAL iNSTITUTE (BMI). As
 documented by Dr. Leonard Horowitz, BMI should be
 on the short list of FBI suspects for source of
anthrax
 letters.

 There is a lot of activity by Chinese government in
 California and I understand that Senator Diane
 Feinstein's husband is very much involved in some of
 this questionable trade between USA and CHINA.

yes there is per: hard drug trafficking and
arms...psychological operations go along with it

 Perhaps these two developments of remote control
 technology are separate developments, but I suspect
 otherwise.

 Patrick

http://community.webtv.net/patrick818/RescueMEofWaldo
http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=20443

china and september 11
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=UTF-8oe=UTF8q=china%2C%22september+1
1%22%2Cskolnick

about two weeks after WTC event: Boeing signs
huge China deal
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_1574000/1574486.stm

[I wonder how much the price was knocked down, since
China knew other demand for new Boeings would be
reduced
following the 9-11-01 air deaths.. --DE]

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Also:

holy doo-doo!

dave, dick: please let me know if and when you receive
this!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psy-op/message/9326

this was posted to ctrl but i reposted to psy-op

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Seeking research help to uncover the Golden Triangle
Heroin Trade

I have it on good information that Paul W. Lewis the
American Baptist
Missionary in Burma and Thailand to the Lahu and Akha
was a CIA
agent, upper management.

That he was deeply involved in a major CIA heroin
smuggling ring from
Burma which still exhists to this day.

That he was a mission plant, and that the reason he
was picked was
that he was related to top official(s) in Air America.

I have searched widely on the net and there is almost
no paper trail
on Paul W (white?) Lewis on the web. He now lives in
Claremont
California at a misson retirement center but people
also advise that
he is a wealthy man.

The Lahu are known drugs dealers in this region, and
it is said that
they were close to the operation in Burma and still
are. The 

[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] More publicity for market analysis confirming GATA's work

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7:34p ET Friday, June 21, 2002

Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:

Tim Wood of TheMiningWeb.com has followed
CBSMarketWatch's Thom Calandra with a
report on the analysis supporting GATA that
has been issued by RBC Global Investment
Management Inc., a division of Royal Bank
of Canada. You can find the story on
TheMiningWeb.com's home page, where it
is headlined, Gold bugs masquerading as
bankers:

http://www.theminingweb.com/

Friends, we ARE getting the word out, and
our evidence is persuading some very
responsible people. Your support of GATA
makes this possible. Thank you.

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You guys do talk a lot!
But to look at the bigger picture I got this forward tonight

http://home.flash.net/~rhmjr/index.html

and then I went to
www.ft.com/us/ ( netscape 4.* no longer works on this site ) then check
the
charts for all the world markets. Europe is down like a roller coaster
with no bottom in sight. ( France and Germany,) - England has seen some
recovery but it was already down below the others.
In the 30's only 10% of families were on water meters. 20% - 30% had
elect.
If the powers that be want to stop any investigation into 911 a slight
tilt to the
markets and only economic recovery will be the word on the street.
We may be able to see and name the Wizards behind the curtain but they
still
pull the levers. and I see deep dodo ahead.




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You read about all these terrorists, most of them
came here
legally,
but they hung around on these expired visas, some for
as long as
10-
15 years. Now, compare that to Blockbuster; you are
two days
late
with a video and these people are all over you. Let's
put
Blockbuster
in charge of immigration-- Jay Leno


What we know about Osama bin Laden is this-he's worth
$300
million,
he has five wives and 26 kids ... and he hates
Americans for
their
'excessive' lifestyle.-- David Letterman


The leaders of the Taliban said today that killing
bin Laden
won't
solve the problem. But, you know, it couldn't hurt.--
Jay Leno


More and more details coming out now about spoiled
rich kid
Osama
bin Laden. Time reports this week he was one of 52
kids. Mother
must
be exhausted. This guy inherited $80 million at age 13
and has
since
expanded it to $300 million through construction,
smart
investments
and gas and oil investments. This way, he can use the
money in
his
war against capitalism.-- Jay Leno


More and more facts coming out about Osama bin Laden.
You know,
he
never sleeps in the same place two nights in a row,
just like
Clinton. -- Jay Leno


One of the Taliban spokesmen said they have thousands
of men
who
look forward to death like Americans look forward to
living,
which is
great because we can arrange that. We'll set them up
with death,
we'll continue living. -- Jay Leno


CBS News finally received anthrax in the mail. As
usual, we're
number three.-- David Letterman


I don't mean to harp on this, but it's like the
networks are a
how-
to manual for terrorists. You see them on the news.
This
reporter is
standing outside a water treatment plant, going, 'If
they poured
the
poison here it could wipe out thousands because the
guard is off
duty
from noon until 1 every day!'
-- Jay Leno


Postal inspectors have been given advanced warning
that Publishers Clearinghouse is sending packets of
laundry detergent
that could be mistaken for anthrax. Oh, good timing!
What genius
came up with this promotion? What's next? A ticking
alarm clock? Let's
put that in a box- Jay Leno


The FBI is urging all Americans to beware of any
letters or packages that have badly misspelled words.
Man, this is going
to be terrible news for the rap industry.-- Jay Leno


In Pakistan anti-American protesters set a Kentucky
Fried Chicken restaurant on fire. The protesters
mistakenly thought
they were attacking high-ranking U.S. military
official Colonel
Sanders.--
Jimmy Fallon on Saturday Night Live's Weekend Update


Tomorrow night on NBC a very special episode of West
Wing, it makes a direct reference to what happened in
New York City.
The exact plot is being kept top secret. We are the
only country in
the world where we put our battle plans on CNN, but
the plots to our
TV shows are top secret.-- Jay Leno


Now this really annoys me: All these people getting
on the Internet and saying Nostradamus predicted this.
If Nostradamus
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An important question is whether Junta63 is more
likely
to regard Coup2K as buried and think they can
bury
9/11 WTC and anthrax by economic recovery, or
whether they are more likely toact in character
and
continue to usescare tactics and opinion-molding
ops that make their warnings seem prescient and
responsible, in which case they will send the
economy
lower to elevate the public anxiety level i.e.
protect
national insecurity.

-Bob

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  Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] To my myopic
  brothers
  You guys do talk a lot!But to look at the bigger
  picture I got this forward tonighthttp://home.flash.net/~rhmjr/index.htmland
  then I went towww.ft.com/us/ (
  netscape 4.* no longer works on this site ) then checkthecharts for
  all the world markets. Europe is down like a roller coasterwith no bottom
  in sight. ( France and Germany,) - England has seen somerecovery but it
  was already down below the others.In the 30's only 10% of families were on
  water meters. 20% - 30% hadelect.If the powers that be want to stop
  any investigation into 911 a slighttilt to themarkets and only
  economic recovery will be the word on the street.We may be able to see and
  name the Wizards behind the curtain but theystillpull the levers. and
  I see deep dodo ahead.Please
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You may not like what he has to say, but ignore him at your own
peril.


Dear Daily Reckoning reader,

His reputation is sterling. His advice... priceless. And as one
reader suggests, you ignore him at your peril.

I'm speaking, of course, of Dr. Kurt Richebacher.

Apart from his insightful economic analysis, Dr. Kurt Richebacher
cuts quite a figure. He recently spent some time down in the
country with me. Despite being over 80 years old, on the day he
arrived, he came tearing into the drive at Ouzilly behind the
wheel of his own BMW, sporting an all-white suit and flowing
hair... he has a dramatic habit of emphasizing his points by
pounding a silver-tipped cane on the floor.

I bring the man to your attention today by way of introducing an
interview the team at The Daily Reckoning recently conducted with
him. We mentioned it briefly in yesterday's Daily Reckoning.
Today I'd like to call your attention to it... in full.

As you'll see from the interview, few people realize how far off
recovery in the U.S. economy really is. The Consumer Price
Index... the Producer Price Index... and other key economic
indicators are all doctored up. The so-called hedonic price
inflator has skewed the economic picture beyond recognition. In
Dr. Richebacher's view, if you plan to rely on the government and
Wall Street statisticians to plan your affairs... you risk losing
everything.

But rather than suffer along with run-of-the-mill investors --
who are more than happy to eat up the dunderheaded blathering
that passes for financial analysis in today's media -- you can
use Dr. Richebacher's insights... and economic revelations... to
protect your wealth immediately.

Fact is, even while the global crisis is well under way, new
opportunities for investing are opening up as we speak. Who
better than a man with nearly 50 years' experience in the global
markets to help you seize them?

The good doctor began as an international economic reporter for a
leading German financial newspaper -- similar to The Wall Street
Journal -- right after WWII. He became rather famous in Germany
for his critical reporting of the post-war government economic
policies. His reputation eventually opened the doors for an even
more important position as the chief economist and managing
partner for the Dresdner Bank in Germany.

While managing the bank, he started writing an economic
newsletter to help inform their most important customers. Quickly
however, it became obvious his opinions were at odds with the
national economic policy. To save face, the bank encouraged him
to publish the letter under his own name, instead of theirs...
yet, it was so popular they continued to distribute it to their
wealthiest clients.

Today he's as bright, insightful and controversial as ever. As
the founder and CEO of Agora Publishing, I have the distinct
honor of publishing The Richebacher Letter. Of course, I can't
tell you who among the financial analysts, newsletter writers and
money managers subscribe to Dr. Kurt Richebacher's monthly
analysis, but I assure you that you would recognize dozens of
their names.  They are among the most respected names in the
financial industry.

From his home office in Cannes, France, Dr. Richebacher works in
the tradition of such prominent economists as Carl Menger, Ludwig
von Mises and Nobel Prize winner Friedrich A. Hayek -- the
economic geniuses who created the Austrian School of economics. I
invite you to take a look at an interview recently conducted by
the team at The Daily Reckoning.

Is there any chance of a financial recovery in 2002?  we
asked...

Absolutely ZERO!  bellowed Dr. Richebacher. And that's just the

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  "[God] commanded the total eradication - including women and children - of certain nations (Amalek being a singular illustration) because of the continuing threat its members presented to the survival of Israel. 
 "When there is no other deterrent, self-defense sic entitles one to take measures that are ordinarily unacceptable."
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http://www.forward.com/issues/2002/02.06.07/news1.html
JUNE 7, 2002 "Forward"

Top Lawyer Urges Death for Families of Bombers

Lewin: 'A Policy Born of Necessity'

By AMI EDEN

FORWARD STAFF A prominent Washington attorney and Jewish communal leader is calling for the execution of family members of suicide bombers. Nathan Lewin, an oft-mentioned candidate for a federal judgeship and legal advisor to several Orthodox organizations, told the Forward that such a policy would provide a much-needed deterrent against suicide attacks. 

Under the proposal, which Lewin unveiled in the current issue of the opinion journal Sh'ma, family members would be spared if they immediately condemned the bombing and refused financial compensation for the loss of their relative.
 
(Lewin's article appears at http://www.shma.com/may02/nathan.htm.)

While a 20-month spate of suicide bombings has been met in the Jewish community with calls for increasingly Draconian preventive measures, Lewin appears to be the first Jewish communal leader to approve publicly of the concept of executing innocent civilians in the hopes of curbing terrorism.

"If executing some suicide-bomber families saves the lives of even an equal number of potential civilian victims, the exchange is, I believe, ethically permissible," wrote Lewin, who has served as president of the International Association of Jewish Lawyers and Jurists and is a vice president of the Orthodox Union. "It is a policy born of necessity — the need to find a true deterrent when capital punishment is demonstrably ineffective."

Lewin argued that the Biblical injunction to destroy the whole tribe of Amalek serves as a precedent in Judaism for taking measures that are "ordinarily unacceptable," in the face of a mortal threat. 

His proposal, however, was rejected by an Israeli diplomat in New York, and discounted, in terms ranging from mild to condemnatory, by a range of commentators, terrorism experts and Jewish communal leaders from across the American political spectrum. "The State of Israel is determined to respond to every Palestinian provocation," said Ido Aharoni, consul for media and public affairs at Israel's New York consulate. "Israel's military approach is to pursue the perpetrators and those who seek to carry out acts of terrorism against innocent Israelis. Within that framework, Israel is trying to minimize, if possible to eliminate, the number of innocent lives lost."

Several leading Jewish figures, including Harvard Law School professor [and frequent "legal expert" on cableTV news programs] Alan Dershowitz, argued that the plan represented a legitimate if flawed attempt to strike a balance between preventing terrorism and preserving democratic norms. 

But the proposal was strongly condemned by the head of the Reform movement, Rabbi Eric Yoffie, and the executive vice chairwoman of the Jewish Council for Public Affairs, Hannah Rosenthal."The opinion is utterly reprehensible and totally contrary to the most fundamental principles of the Jewish religious tradition and everything the State of Israel has been about since its founding," said Yoffie, president of the Union of American Hebrew Congregations. "I've said it, and everyone realizes, that in a war all of our standards on civil liberties may not apply. 

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Israeli minister calls for murder of families of Palestinian suicide bombers

August 21, 2001 

Israeli deputy public security minister Gideon Ezra has openly called for Israel to murder the families of potential Palestinian suicide bombers.

The following is an excerpt from a column in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, by Akiva Eldar.

"Ask Clinton what he thinks about Camp David"
by Akiva Eldar

Haaretz, August 21, 2001

Family therapy

K., a Theresienstadt survivor, was distraught to the point of tears. "What's happening to us?" she asked. "Did you hear the deputy public security minister, Gideon Ezra? I can't calm down. Now he's proposing on television to execute the families of the Palestinian suicide bombers." K. said Ezra didn't invent the system in which relatives are punished for the sins of their fathers or sons. She remembers it well from the 1940s in occupied Europe. But her Hebrew is not very good, and maybe she didn't really understand what was said. Otherwise it's impossible that the Jewish state let such things go right past its ears.But K. wasn't wrong. Here are excerpts from an interview with Ezra broadcast Sunday night on state television in the New Evening (Erev Hadash) program. And none of his colleagues in the government protested.Geula Even: "What idea do you have to chill the motivations of the suicide bomber. You said something about harming their families. What does that mean."Ezra: "I'm talking about there being a conversation between a psychologist with every one of those suicide bombers and the psychologists will check what brought them to suicide."Even:"You mean the ones who are caught."Ezra: "The ones who are caught. To learn about those who go out in the future. If, for example, it turns out from the three [in Israeli custody] that harming their family would have prevented them from going out on a suicide mission, that's a possible answer..."Even: "Just a minute, you're saying that if it turns out that by killing the father of a suicide bomber it would prevent him from going to a discotheque to blow himself up, then the parents should be eliminated?"Ezra: "Absolutely. You have to understand that we paid a price in children and elderly and babies ... the suicide bomber should know that his family will be wiped out, and that's better then him going out, and nobody will get killed and there will be peace."Historian Prof. Moshe Zimmerman of Hebrew University says the Nazis used to arrest the families of people suspected of trying to undermine the regime or harm its officials. "The method had a name - sippenhaft. They used it, for example, when they caught the conspirators against Hitler in July 1944. You know that if you act against the state, the entire family will suffer. In the occupation areas, they made wide use of the method. If someone shot a German soldier, he knew that if the assassin wasn't caught, 50 people would hang."But if Ezra is looking for help from some of his former colleagues in the Shin Bet to provide him with folklore about suicide bombers, he might end up with a better method than the family treatment plan he's suggesting. Someone at the Shin Bet no doubt noticed the sermon, broadcast on Palestinian TV, from the Sheikh Il'ijun Mosque, as preached by Sheikh Isma'il al-Adouan: "The shahid, if he meets Allah, is forgiven his first drop of blood; he's saved from the grave's confines; he sees his seat in heaven; he's saved from judgment day; he's given 72 dark-eyed women; he's an advocate for 70 members of his family." If nobody at the Shin Bet has seen it, it's available through the Middle East Media and Research Institute.So who knows, Mr. Ezra. Maybe