[CTRL] U.S. BEGINS STRATEGIC AIR ATTACK ON IRAQ

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Just announced:

U.S. BEGINS STRATEGIC AIR ATTACK ON IRAQ

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[CTRL] Shots Fired Near Governor's Mansion in Austin

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Shots Fired Near Governor's Mansion in Austin
by Mack White

Capitol Police say a San Antonio man nearly ran down two officers with his pickup near the Governor's Mansion early Saturday morning.

Republican presidential nominee George W. Bush was in the mansion when the incident occurred.  However, Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Tela Mange said Bush was in no danger.

The incident began just before 1 a.m. at the intersection of 11th and Lavaca Streets, where Capitol Police officers Jose Ramirez and Brian Baxter were on foot patrol.  They say they saw Todd Nathaniel Woerner, 25, driving his truck erratically, and that when they attempted to flag him down with their flashlights, Woerner headed towards Guadalupe Street.

On Guadalupe Street, he began to make a U-turn, repeatedly striking a concrete planter.  Another Capitol officer drew his gun and ordered Woerner to stop.

At this point Woerner allegedly drove toward Ramirez and Baxter, who were standing in the middle of the street, forcing them to jump out of the road.  The officers fired five rounds, striking the truck at least once.

Moments later, Austin police arrested Woerner outside his truck in the 1200 block of Angelina Streets.  Authorities said Woerner appeared drunk, but Mange said she does not think police requested a Breathalyzer.

Woerner is being held on a public intoxication charge, pending approval of attempted capital murder charges.

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[CTRL] THIRD BIOLOGICAL ATTACK IN AUSTIN

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Bio-Terrorism in Austin, Texas?

by Mack White

This morning, for the third time this week, a possible biological attack
occurred in Austin, Texas.

Emergency workers were again called to a Department of Public Safety (DPS)
building in North Austin after several persons complained of chest pain,
sore throat, headache, and nausea.  At last report, four persons were
hospitalized.

In yesterday's incident, 19 persons were hospitalized, and 160 treated at
the scene.

Yesterday, a live local tv newscast from DPS was disrupted by radio talk
show host Alex Jones.  Using a bullhorn, he accused the government of
contriving these incidents to bring about more federal control.

"This is psychological warfare," he said.

The apparent biological attacks began Monday, when University of Texas
police officer Tom Owens stopped a Pontiac Grand Prix with diplomatic
license plates at the intersection of 15th and Lamar.

This intersection is at least ten minutes' drive from the UT Austin campus.

Three other UT officers (including Chief Jeff Van Slyke) were also on the
scene, along with an Austin Community College officer.  News reports have
not made it clear when these other officers arrived on the scene, or why
there were no Austin Police Department officers on the scene.

Owens claimed he stopped the car because the plates were expired. However,
this later proved not to be the case.

While searching the trunk of the vehicle, Owens went into a seizure. The
four other officers became sick with headache, nausea, and sore throat.
Owens was hospitalized; the others treated and released.

A Channel 8 news reporter broadcasting live from the scene said she and
others experienced the same symptoms when they first arrived.

The Hazardous Materials Unit was called to the scene, then Lamar Street was
shut down for several blocks.  Two large blue tents were set up on the
street, and men in protective suits worked for three hours.

Then, when it was all over, the authorities announced that no substance had
been found, and that Owens' symptoms were due to a pre-existing medical
condition.

However, nothing was said about the symptoms experienced by the other persons.

The young man who had been driving the car was handcuffed, taken to jail,
and later released.

Police would not release his identity or nationality.  However, two sources
have informed this writer he was Sudanese.

A photograph of a policeman holding the diplomatic license plates appeared
in an Austin American-Statesman photograph.  The last four figures on the
plate are clear in the photograph; however, the first two are partially
obscured.

It may be safely concluded that the license plate is one of the following:
028-KXD, Q28-KXD, 078-KXD, Q78-KXD.

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[CTRL] Bioterrorism in Austin, Texas?

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A lot of people are talking about a strange incident which happened in
Austin last Monday.  Here's the story:

A University of Texas police officer stopped an old Grand Prix with
diplomatic license plates which were (depending on which news report you
hear) either stolen or expired, but which later turned out to be neither
(?).

Three other UT officers arrived on the scene, along with an Austin
Community College officer (all of them way outside their jurisdiction).
While searching the vehicle, the first officer went into a seizure. The
four other cops became sick with headache, nausea, and sore
throat--"allergy-like" symptoms.  The first cop was hospitalized; the
others treated and released.

News reporters reporting live on the scene described the same symptoms,
including a bad smell.

The Hazardous Materials Unit arrived, then several blocks of Lamar and 15th
were shut down.  Two large blue tents were set up.  Men in protective suits
worked for three hours.

Then, when it was all over, they announced there never was any substance,
and that the first cop must have been overcome by allergies.

Nothing was said about the symptoms experienced by the other persons!

The young man who had been driving the car was handcuffed and taken to
jail.  He was later released.

The police refused to release the identity or nationality of the man who
was driving the diplomatic car.  However, I have learned from a reliable
source that the man was Sudanese.

Incidentally, this incident occurred about two minutes' drive from the
Governors Mansion.  Gov. Bush was in the mansion that day (these days he is
usually away on the campaign trail); I know because when I drove past it on
the way to work that morning I saw a large security detail of DPS officers
surrounding the mansion.

ALSO:  In the past hour it was reported that 100+ persons where evacuated
from the Department of Public Safety (DPS) office on North Lamar.  (DPS is
our highway patrol; the Texas Rangers are part of DPS.)

Twenty (?) persons were hospitalized with chest pains and "allergy-like"
symptoms.  (The number of persons hospitalized is unclear.  I've also heard
it was four persons.)  Nothing more known at this time.

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[CTRL] Bioterrorism in Austin, TX? - Additional Info

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One more thing:

The Austin American-Statesman published a story on the incident.  It
contained a photo which showed the diplomatic license plate.  Except for
the first two letters, it is quite clear:

O78 KXD

Or, it could be:  Q78 KXD

Also, it is possible the 7 is a "2."

I add this bit of information in case anyone knows how to track down a
diplomatic license plate.

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[CTRL] Current News and Conspiracy Links

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Check out http://www.worldwidenewslink.com for links to the following:

*Standoff in Trinidad, Texas: A Report on Alex Jones' Trip to Trinidad, TX
and the Latest on the John Joe Gray Situation



*The Marines land in Atlanta:  Officials say secret urban exercises won't
be noticed

*Shooting with David Koresh: Nine days before the first bloody raid it was
all buddy-buddy

*The Cocaine Peninsula:  New Mexican President Vincente Fox vacations with
Banamex banker/importer

*A Preliminary Report on the Yogurt Shop Murders: Racketeering and Money
Laundering Through Site Specific Death Claims) by Erik Moebius

*Henry Lee Lucas CIA Mind Controlled Serial Killer: There's Something about
Henry by David McGowan

*The CIA and the West Nile Virus by Leonard G. Horowitz

*Russia Claims Sub Hit by Foreign Vessel

*Moscow denounces NATO for eastward military moves

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[CTRL] Yogurt Shop Murders: Organized Crime and Murdered Children

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Yogurt Shop Murders: Organized Crime and Murdered Children

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[CTRL] New Conspiracy/News Site

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New Conspiracy/News Site

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Jim Marrs - Remote Viewing, Alien Agenda, JFK Secret Societies

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Jim Marrs believes that human efforts to launch weapons systems in space
may have been sabotaged by alien forces. This ET intervention, he claims,
has been behind the loss of several US and Russian exploratory probes in
recent years.

With a name like Marrs, I guess he would know.

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[CTRL] Castro's Family Values

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Castro's Family Values

By Charles Lane

Sunday, January 30, 2000; Page B07

The Cuban government firmly and sincerely supports the humanitarian value
of family reunification. Or so it would seem, judging by the energy and
resources Havana has devoted to its international campaign for the return
of 6-year-old castaway Elian Gonzalez from his relatives in Miami to his
father in
Cuba.

But consider the Fidel Castro regime's behavior toward Luis Grave de
Peralta Morrell and his family.

In 1989, Grave de Peralta, a physicist, returned home to Cuba from an
academic exchange in Italy. Having been able to read Western news accounts
of the
changes in Eastern Europe and the uprising in China, he was disgusted to
find Cuba's official press attacking perestroika and justifying the
massacre at
Tiananmen Square. So he resigned from the Cuban Communist Party.

Fired from his university, Grave de Peralta spent the next half-year
researching and writing a 200-page manuscript in which he documented
self-contradictions and lies in Fidel Castro's speeches and writings. State
security agents arrested Grave de Peralta and charged him with "rebellion
through
peaceful means"--that's a crime in Cuba--and, in 1992, sentenced him to 13
years in prison.

Declared a prisoner of conscience by Amnesty International and the
Committee on Human Rights of the National Academy of Sciences, Grave de
Peralta was
released in January 1996 after then-Rep. Bill Richardson personally
intervened with Castro. As a condition of his release, Grave de Peralta was
required to
emigrate, but he was told his family could follow.

Indeed, his two sons, Gabriel, 13, and Cesar, 8, have been granted U.S.
visas and Cuban exit permits. But the Cuban government continues to deny an
exit
permit to the boys' mother, Maria Bouza Fortes. (She and Grave de Peralta
were divorced during the four years they have been obliged to live in
different
countries.) Grave de Peralta, now 42 and studying for a doctorate in
engineering at Texas Tech, showed me some of the letters the family has
sent to Cuban
officials from Castro on down, only to be ignored or brushed off with vague
alusions to "orders from above."

This, then, is the choice imposed by the Cuban government on this
politically incorrect family. The children can go to America to live in
freedom with their
father--abandoning their mother in a totalitarian society where she lost
her job as an English teacher because of her former husband's dissent. Or
they can
remain with her, and, in all likelihood, forfeit any hope of seeing their
father as long as Fidel Castro remains in power.

A Miami-based Cuban exile organization, Cuba-New Generation, says it has
documented nine cases similar to that of Grave de Peralta, among them the
story
of Manuel Amigo Trejo, who was jailed for dissident activities and released
to Sweden in 1994. His wife and two daughters have Swedish visas, but the
Cuban government won't give them exit permits.

Castro's government has always manipulated family relationships to exert
control over potentially troublesome subjects. When musicians, athletes and
scientists travel abroad, they are often obliged to leave their spouses and
children in Cuba, to discourage them from defecting. Paquito D'Rivera, the
great jazz
musician, bolted anyway in 1978; it took a nine-year campaign to persuade
Castro to let his son join him abroad.

Then there's the agony of family members separated from loved ones who are
jailed without due process for such offenses as "dangerousness" or
"contempt." Amnesty International has just documented the case of Victor
Arroyo, a dissident journalist, who was caught distributing some 140 toys,
purchased with donations from Miami, to poor children in Pinar del Rio
province. He has been sentenced to six months in prison for "hoarding." His
mother,
Marta Carmona, waited for him during a previous 21-month sentence on
political charges; now she's waiting for him again.

Everywhere it has existed, Communism has generated refugees; Cuba is no
exception. Often the price of escape is some years of separation from
family. One
of the three survivors of Elian's ill-fated boat, Arianne Horta, decided at
the last minute to leave her 5-year-old daughter in Cuba rather than take
her on the
desperate journey that cost Elian's mother her life. This little girl and
her mother will now live apart indefinitely.

Castro may be reaping a public relations windfall from the tragedy that has
befallen the Gonzalez family. He may even have the law on his side in this
case.
But none of that should obscure the fact that the whole episode probably
would never have occurred if the Cuban dictator had long ago instituted the
economic and political reforms Cuba's people so plainly need. Fidel Castro,
unifier of the Cuban family? The pose is pure hypocrisy.

The writer is a former editor of the New Republic.

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[CTRL] MISSING TIME: A Mind Control Comic Strip (On-Line)

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Now Showing at http://www.mackwhite.com in the Zircon Theatre:

MISSING TIME -- A Tale of Mind Control and Assassination . . . Filmed in
Startling Gif-O-Vision . . .

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Coming Soon:

THE MILLENNIUM MURDERS -- Rex Maynard Discovers the Terrifying TRUTH behind
the Y2K Hoax . . .

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Held Over by Popular Demand:

OPERATION BLUE BEAM -- A Rex Maynard Thriller . . . Psychedelic
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[CTRL] 'Mile High' couple are fined £2 ,250

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(Maybe it was the alcohol.  Or, maybe it was something in the alcohol.  If
the intelligence community hasn't developed a drug that can do the
following, they will.)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk

ISSUE 1777

Thursday 6 April 2000

'Mile High' couple are fined £2,250
By Paul Stokes

TWO strangers who shocked passengers with a drunken sexual encounter on a
transatlantic plane were fined a total of £2,250 yesterday.

Amanda Holt, 37, and David Machin, 40, both married, admitted being drunk
on an American Airlines flight from Dallas to Manchester last October. Both
have lost well-paid jobs.

It ended when they were arrested on touchdown in Manchester after three
fellow passengers and aircrew complained of their persistent lewd
behaviour. At Manchester Crown Court yesterday both admitted being drunk on
the aircraft. She was fined £1,000 with £400 costs and he was fined £1,250
with £700 costs.

The pair had exchanged pleasantries as Holt, bespectacled and smartly
dressed, settled into seat 9a and Machin, a married father of three,
shuffled into his allotted seat alongside her on the American Airlines
Boeing 767.

They started chatting as the plane cruised at 30,000ft, had a glass of wine
with lunch and became more familiar as the journey went on and more drink
was consumed. Between them, they were said to have shared two full bottles
of wine and "large quantities" of cognac and port.

Holt, 37, a £90,000-a-year telecommunications executive, was seen at
various stages of undress by people sitting nearby as the two began to take
greater interest in one another. The other passengers noticed them kissing
and touching one another as her blouse became awry and her vest appeared
pulled down with her bra straps to the side.

They were also seen indulging in heavy petting beneath a blanket and she
was seen with her "eyes rolling". At the height of their passion Jeanette
Wrenall, an elderly disabled passenger, was struck on the head by a stray
foot as she heard miaowing and childlike noises behind her.

Mrs Wrenall turned around and told Holt to behave and get dressed, at which
point Machin pulled a blanket over her, but was told that was not
satisfactory. Holt and Machin, a greetings card company's logistics
manager, were also seen groping inside each others' pants by a woman seated
opposite to them.

When she was called, Juanitta White, a stewardess, noticed Holt was not
wearing any trousers and most of her chest was exposed and told them to
stop, but each time the cabin crew left the pair continued where they had
left off. As the aircraft prepared for landing, a crew member told the pair
they would be met by the authorities at Manchester. Holt asked "Are you
sure?" before tutting dismissively at what she had been told.

When police boarded the aircraft they noticed her eyes were glazed, she was
unsteady, still in a state of undress and reeked of alcohol. Holt denied
that she was ever undressed but later sent a letter to the airline to
apologise for her behaviour. She wrote: "I am not sure as to whether I'll
lose my marriage and job as a result, but my actions were totally out of
character. I have no recollection of events whatsoever, but I realise this
was no excuse."

In interviews with police Machin dismissed the incident by saying they had
become "a little over-familiar, but that's all". It was claimed in court
that both of them had already suffered because of publicity surrounding the
case. Holt, of Bacup, Lancashire, lost her job with Nortel Networks, of
Canada. She is out of work but still married to her husband Steve Holt, a
car salesman.

Machin, of Wakefield, West Yorkshire, also lost his job with the American
greetings company Hallmark and his marriage to his wife Judith had been
affected. Judge Harold Singer told the courttheir conduct proved offensive
to three passengers. Had it not been for them ignoring requests to stop
what they were doing , the case would probably have never got to court.

He said that the case should not attract a sentence of imprisonment and it
was clear both marriages had been put under strain because of all the
publicity the case had attracted. He said: "This case does not involve
either a threat to the plane or the passengers or crew nor does it involve
violence or threats of violence."

Philip Curran, prosecuting, said the only passengers near Holt and Machin
were the disabled Mrs Wrenall and Brian and Margaret Carter, who were
sitting across the aisle. Peter Birkett, QC, of Holt, said she had been in
America on business and because of long meetings had had no food before
drinking on the flight and she still could not understand how she became so
drunk so quickly.

He said she had already been publicly humiliated by press coverage and her
behaviour had been totally out of character. James Sturman, for Machin,
said he had lost his £15,000 guaranteed bonus and had taken another job
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Follow The Money - Before Exiling Elian

John LeBoutillier
Thursday April 6, 2000

Who is paying for Greg Craig to serve as Juan Miguel Gonzalez' lawyer?
Craig is the Washington D.C. lawyer who probably charges $600 per hour and
recently represented President Clinton during his impeachment trial.

Keep in mind that lawyers like Mr. Craig charge even for TV appearances. So
every time we see  Craig on the "Today" show with Katie Couric or on ABC
with Sam and Cokie, you can also hear the "ca-ching" of the cash register.
Legal bills can add up into the five figures very quickly. And he  just
made a whirlwind roundtrip to Havana, probably on a private plane with
another lawyer from his firm, that will cost thousands more in fees and
expenses.

Certainly Elian's father can not and is not paying this tab. He is but a
slave of the Cuban State and would have virtually no assets. Under Castro's
Soviet-style communism, men like Juan Miguel can only keep what they save
from their earnings - which often averages around $12-$40 per month.

So who is paying for Craig - and who hired him?

Either Castro's government - broke and desperate for money, thus the heavy
push to have us lift our trade embargo - is paying, or Clinton arranged for
someone else to pay.

Either way raises some questions:

1) Did Fidel hire Craig figuring that the lawyer was "wired" with Clinton
and could thus get Clinton to send Elian back?

2) Did Clinton "assign" Craig to this job thinking that, if he could get
him off in the Republican-controlled Senate, he could figure a legal way to
ship little Elian back to Cuba?

3) Or did someone else - perhaps a rich Castro sympathizer in favor of
trading with Havana or some left-wing church group sympathetic to communist
governments - foot the bill and hire Craig?

What are the odds that any member of the national news media will even ask
Mr. Craig these questions when he next appears on television?

After Diane Sawyer's disgraceful performance last week with Elian, it is
hard to see anyone - other than the Fox News Channel - who will ask these
important questions of Mr. Craig.

Does Fidel have "something" on Clinton and figure the best way to
communicate this to our El Presidente is through his impeachment lawyer?
These are all key questions that need to be answered before Elian is exiled
back to Camp Cuba.

We, the taxpayers, have a right to know how our tax dollars are being used
in this case. And we have a right to know how Greg Craig is dealing with
our paid employees - Clinton, Reno, and the INS officials and lawyers, for
example. And, if some tax-exempt church or charitable group is paying for
Mr. Craig, we have a right to know that, too, because we are indirectly
"subsidizing" his fees through that tax-exempt status.

During the Watergate investigation the cardinal rule became "Follow the
money". That applies here, too. If we find out who is paying for this Oval
Office confidant, this expensive and "wired" inside-the-beltway "fixer," we
will know the real reasonso many forces are so determined to ship one
little boy back to communism.

By the way, all you Court-TV junkies and lovers of legal cases, legal fees
are notprotected by lawyer-client privilege. Thus it is not impossible that
through some proceeding we may be able to find out who is paying.

My advice to Elian's Miami relatives: Get your legal team working 'round
the clock to force this information out into the public domain - before you
relinquish custody of Elian. If you can find out who is paying for
Clinton's lawyer you may be able to turn this whole issue around.

My prediction: Castro will make some type of heavy-handed blunder and it
will tilt this issue back in favor of Elian remaining in America. And, if
Fidel lets the father come here, there is a chance the Miami relatives will
be able to get him to defect.

Now wouldn't that be sweet justice - for both Fidel and his soulmate, Clinton?

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MOSCOW, Mar 22, 2000 -- (Agence France Presse) NATO has assembled a large
force of naval ships and submarines in the Barents Sea north of Russia and
Scandinavia, compromising relations with Moscow, a Russian vice admiral was
quoted Tuesday as saying.

According to vice admiral Mikhail Motsak, at least ten NATO submarines are
patrolling in the arctic Barents Sea, while some 150 war ships were also in
the polar region, the Interfax news agency reported.

"This situation is far from improving relations between Russia and NATO,"
Motsak said.

Relations between Russia and NATO were frozen by Moscow after NATO air
strikes on Yugoslavia last spring. But the two sides have begun renewing
normal ties, as highlighted by NATO Secretary General George Robertson's
visit to Moscow last month.

Acting Russian president Vladimir Putin recently made the surprise
suggestion that his country might even be prepared to join NATO itself.
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Pa. Cops Cite Anti-White Writings

Updated 11:43 AM ET March 2, 2000

By TODD SPANGLER, Associated Press Writer

WILKINSBURG, Pa. (AP) - Police said today that the black man charged with
shooting five white men in a Pittsburgh suburb had "anti-white" writings in
his apartment.

Ronald Taylor, accused of killing two and critically wounding three others,
singled out whites according to witnesses. One former hostage said today
the gunman told a fellow black, "Not you, sister," as he threatened to
shoot other hostages.

Taylor, 39, was arrested Wednesday after surrendering following the
shootings at his apartment building and at two restaurants and a brief
hostage-taking at an office building.

Lt. John Brennan, of the Allegheny County police, said today that a search
at Taylor's apartment Wednesday night found writings he characterized as
being angry at whites. He refused to disclose their contents and said he
could not make them available to the public.

"They were just some of his thoughts. It was basically anti-white,
anti-Jew," Brennan said.

Brennan said charges under the state's ethnic intimidation statute would
probably be brought against Taylor, who was expected to be arraigned on
charges other than the criminal homicide counts in Wilkinsburg this
afternoon.

An incident with maintenance workers at Taylor's apartment building
apparently touched off the rage, authorities said. Police Sgt. John Fisher,
who negotiated with Taylor during the standoff, said the suspect was upset
that his apartment door wasn't fixed fast enough.

All the people shot were white males. But authorities stressed that the
motives for the rampage may be more complex than racial animosity.

"There have obviously been some racial overtones, but he appears to be an
angry young man," Wilkinsburg police Chief Gerald Brewer told NBC's "Today"
this morning. "He was very angry apparently at a lot of different things,
but one can draw a lot of different conclusions from that."

The trouble started Wednesday after three maintenance workers - two whites
and a black - went to Taylor's apartment to fix a door.

"He said, 'You're all white trash, racist pigs,"' John DeWitt, one of the
maintenance workers, told The Associated Press. "He looked at me and said,
'You're dead."'

DeWitt, who is white, said he was then called away to work on another job
in the building. Taylor then allegedly shot the other white worker and set
his own apartment on fire before heading to the two restaurants.

One man was shot at a Burger King and three others at a McDonald's during
lunch time.

Joyce Ambrose, one of the people briefly held hostage in the office
building, said Taylor told them, "I have one bullet left and I'm going to
use it on you guys. Which one of you should it be?"

"And he told us to get walking," she said on ABC's "Good Morning America"
today. "And we were walking and encountered another employee, Barb, who's
black and he looked at her and said, 'Not you, sister. You can go."'

Ambrose said he then picked on a white woman, raised the gun toward her
head, uttered a racial epithet, grabbed her wrist but then said: "'No, I
think I'll terrorize you for a while."'

Christine McCrae, who is black, said Wednesday that Taylor ran through her
house on the way to the office building. He assured her that she was not a
target, she said.

"I'm not going to hurt any black people. I'm just out to kill all white
people.' That's exactly what he said," she told WTAE-TV.

But Monique Frost, 29, a mental health therapist who is a neighbor of
Taylor's, discounted the theory that race played a role in Taylor's
actions, noting that the apartment fire put black neighbors in danger.

"I know he made some racial statements, but he set that fire in a building
where all African-Americans live with the exception of one Caucasian,"
Frost told The Associated Press. "And he didn't warn anybody. The people in
that building could have died."

Taylor is charged with two counts of criminal homicide, an umbrella charge
that includes various degrees of murder and manslaughter.

The dead were identified as John Kroll, 55, the maintenance worker, and
Joseph Healy, 71, a former priest from Wilkinsburg. The others shot were
identified as Richard Clinger, Emil Sanielevici and Steven Bostard.

It was the nation's second incident of high-profile gun violence in as many
days. On Tuesday, a 6-year-old boy fatally shot a first-grade classmate in
Michigan.

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Gunman Wounds Five in Pittsburgh Suburb

Updated 1:58 PM ET March 1, 2000

   WILKINSBURG, Pa. (Reuters) - A gunman wounded up to five people in a
Pittsburgh suburb on Wednesday, police said, the day
   after a 6-year-old boy shot and killed a classmate in an incident that
stunned America.

   Television networks reported the gunman was holed up in a nearby
building and could be holding five hostages.

   "We do have four of the victims. They are all listed in critical
condition right now," an official at the University of Pittsburgh Medical
   Center told CNN television. A fifth person was also in critical
condition at another hospital.

   Pittsburgh police said the gunman shot three people in a McDonald's
restaurant in Wilkinsburg, then went to a Burger King next door
   and shot one more person. It was not clear where the fifth person was shot.

   A woman who lived nearby told CNN an armed man walked into her apartment
before the shooting took place and told her: "I'll be dead
   in ten minutes."

   "He said, 'Well, I'm not gonna hurt any black people, I'm gonna kill all
white people,"' she said. He then left the apartment, she added.

   Police said there were SWAT teams and negotiators in the area where
buildings were being evacuated.

   It was not clear what provoked the attack and details of the incident
were sketchy.

   An FBI agent told CNN: "Right now it's a rapidly evolving situation. We
have personnel on the scene from a number of agencies."

   The incident was the latest in a string of shootings to jolt the United
States.

   The killing of the 6-year-old at an elementary school in Michigan on
Tuesday prompted President Clinton to appeal to the American
   electorate to make tighter gun control laws an issue of the 2000
presidential election.

   Vice President Al Gore, declaring "enough is enough," cited the death of
the first grader in blasting the pro-gun lobby for blocking
   enactment of "common sense" gun controls.

   "It is time to get guns out of the hands of those who should not have
them -- the criminals, the students, the children," Gore said as he
   campaigned in California, which holds its presidential primary next
Tuesday.

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Y2K was intended as a cover for a nuclear hit on Russia.  It did not happen
because there was a coup, and Russian president Boris Yeltsin resigned.
Faced with massive nuclear retaliation, the US backed down--and "nothing
happened."

Had things gone differently, however, a lot would have happened.  The US
would have simulated a Y2K disaster worldwide, particularly in Russia.  As
it is, the few incidents which did occur were blamed on Y2K, e.g. the
following story.

Naturally, the spy satellite which went out was the one over Russia.  It
was hacked by the Russians.

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Y2K Bug Causes Intelligence Losses
Defense Silent Due to Terrorist Fears

by John McWethy
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Jan. 4 - Defense Department officials now acknowledge that there was an
intelligence blackout on New Year's Eve - and that the Y2K glitch was a big
deal.  "It was a significant source of information in our national
intelligence
capabilities," Deputy Defense Secretary John Hamre said today. "It was not
an unimportant dimension. It was a significant dimension."

Sources tell ABCNEWS that for two hours, the United States lost all
information from spy satellites that take pictures over places like the
Middle East and Russia.

The data was beamed back to Earth, officials say, but computers at Fort
Belvoir, Va., could not translate the information, and it was lost forever.
Temporary repairs were begun quickly, but it took two days to complete the
job.

Reporters were told New Year's Eve that there were no Y2K glitches.

Wouldn't Have Admitted Problem

Today, Hamre said he did not know at the time there was a problem, but he
made it clear, even if he had, he probably would not have leveled with
reporters.

"I mean, we were at a global alert for potential terrorist activity around
the world," he said. "Forgive me for being disrespectful, but if it's
trying to respect your right to file a story and my responsibility to
protect the country, I'm going to protect the country."

Hamre insisted that although the failure was big, the impact on American
security was not. Officials elsewhere in the government say that at the
time, they did not know what they were dealing with. It was, they say, a
very bad night.

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WHY 2K?

by Mack White

(NOTE:  The following is pure speculation, and subject to change should new
facts emerge.)

We used to wonder what would happen with Y2K, and we always knew that the
only way we would ever find out was to wait and see what happened.

Well, now we know what happened with Y2K.  Nothing.

Nothing happened because Y2K was all a big hoax.  That it was a hoax is
supported by the fact that, even in Third World countries which did nothing
to prepare for the "problem," Y2K Day passed like any other.

We always knew the Y2K crisis was created, but we could never figure out
exactly why.  But, now that the entire scenario has finally played itself
out, we can with greater confidence speculate why.

Apparently, back in the early days of computers, this minor Y2K bug was
discovered.  Someone took note of the fact and realized it might come in
useful later.  So, in 1968, the National Bureau of Standards mandated the
six-digit system for the computer industry.

Time passed, and the world changed.  Without the Cold War to justify
billions of dollars of defense spending, other excuses were needed, such as
terrorism.  And Y2K.

In the waning days of the 90s, Y2K was let out of the bag.  Phony evidence
was leaked which indicated there would be worldwide failures.

Of course, the conspirators knew that any genuine problems could be easily
headed off in time by spending billions of dollars on a solution, which was
already in hand--"Y2K compliance" as it came to be known.  At least $100
billion was spent this way.  Someone made a lot of money off Y2K--and this
doesn't count the profiteers selling everything from generators to beef
jerky.

Also, the White House got a $50 million UN-linked emergency command post
out of the deal; many cities got similar command posts.  These, of course,
will not disappear now that Y2K has come and gone, but will be useful for
whatever other "emergency" the Elites have up their sleeve in the future.

The phony evidence and scare stories about Y2K were leaked mostly to the
Patriot community.  The movement's own paranoia was used against it to
manipulate and ultimately discredit it.

The perpetrators of this hoax knew of course that, after New Years Eve
1999, they would no longer have Y2K as an excuse for emergency
preparations.  So, in the weeks leading up to Y2K, they began to hype
terrorism.  We will surely hear more about terrorism in the days, weeks,
months, etc. to come.

The perpetrators also knew that Y2K would be very closely watched, and
that, when it passed without event, there would be questions asked about
all the money spent on this non-problem.  For this reason, they didn't want
Y2K to have the full attention of the media.

So, even though anyone who can count knows it was not really the
turn-of-the-millennium, big millennium celebrations were held all over the
world to keep the tv cameras and talking heads busy for 24 hours and keep
the attention off the fact that Bangkok toilets were not backing up after
all.

Also, after some high profile arrests of "terrorists" earlier in the month,
the possibility of attacks on these silly "millennium" celebrations were
used to enhance the fear of terrorism.  The mayors of Seattle and Denver
were likely shown phony evidence to convince them to cancel their New Years
events.

Also, as an added precaution against Y2K taking too much media attention,
they decided to stage a major news story as a distraction.  Remembering how
much worldwide attention was caused when they killed John Lennon in 1980,
they decided to program another obsessed Beatles fan to kill a Beatle.

The attack on George Harrison may have had multiple purposes.  It may be
that Harrison had become troublesome to them in some way, as Lennon had.
Or maybe they wanted to send a message to the creative and celebrity
communities to put a lid on anti-Establishment criticism--the message being
"You are not safe, no matter how security-conscious you are."

It would also send a message to everyone else that the world is more
dangerous than ever, thus we need more laws, police, jails, etc.

A gun could not be used on Harrison because this murder could only occur in
England, which has strict gun control laws.  This would have run counter to
their anti-gun propaganda.  So they had to make do with a knife attack,
which had a lower chance for success.

After a horrible ten-minute struggle, the murder failed when Mrs. Harrison
managed to knock out the "Manchurian Candidate" with a lamp.

But it almost succeeded.  Imagine the headlines, and their effect, if
Harrison had been murdered on the eve of Y2K.

It is possible, however, that there was an even darker motive behind Y2K.
There is some reason to believe this hoax was, at bottom, a plan to get rid
of Russia once and for all.

This plan involved staging Y2K disruptions around the world, especially in
Russia.  There, not only would the 

[CTRL] Village Voice: FBI Threatens Times Sq. Massacre Filmmaker

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Published November 24 - 30, 1999

THE MONITOR
BY MARK BOAL

Subversive Filmmaker Attracts the Wrong Kind of Agent

FBI's Shutter Speed

Success seemed imminent. A local TV station was airing a segment about his
Web site, and he began to savor those precious moments of microfame. No
more dingy years of self-subsidized screenings; now there'd be an audience
for his art. But then came the FBI.

In a highly unusual move last week, FBI agents called mike zieper, an
independent artist who goes by
the name Mike Z., and "requested" that he remove his site from the
Internet. When he declined, the FBI
worked in tandem with the U.S. Attorney's office to persuade his Web host
and its server to pull Zieper's
site-18 days after it went up-without having a subpoena or court order of
any kind.

Mike Z.'s Web site showed an eerie but amateur video that purports to be a
military briefing. The clip
opens with fuzzy shots of Times Square, over which an unseen male voice
describes a secret army plan to incite a race riot on New Year's Eve.
"First Team," he says "you're all here by oh?four hundred," and he then
instructs undercover black agents to "Give them a little of the Amadou
shit, agitate it."

The FBI was alerted to the site after receiving phone calls from people who
thought its Blair Witch ?style footage was genuine army issue. The opening
banner on the site read, "I don't know too much about this tape you are
about to see. I got it from my cousin Steve who's in the army. . . . If
it's fake, then there's
nothing to worry about. If it's real, then we're in really big trouble."

The FBI's call came when Mike Z. was at a friend's house last Thursday
watching his UPN 9 interview. Suddenly, his pager hummed, and when he
called the number back, it turned out to be the local New Jersey sheriff's
department at his front door with two FBI agents in tow, wondering if they
could come in for a chat. Then agents Dan Calemina and Joe Metzinger got on
the phone and said, " 'We know that you have this Web site and that it has
been getting a lot of activity,' " Z. recalls. " 'And we want to know how
we can get people to stop seeing it.' The implication was obviously that I
would face a subpoena or an arrest if I didn't [take it down]," Z. says.

Instead, Z. contacted attorneys and put his computer in storage. But the
agents made an end run around him. When Z. refused to pull his site, the
FBI and the U.S. Attorney's office contacted Z.'s host, BECamation, the
next day. And that was all it took. "I had no choice but to pull the site
down completely or I would have lost my business," says Mark Wieger,
BECamation's president, who feared that his own ISP would cut him off. Lisa
Korologos, an assistant U.S. Attorney, requested that Wieger "remove the
content so that it could not be distributed," Wieger says. (Both the U.S.
Attorney's office and the FBI had no comment.)

Wieger later apologized to Z. in an e-mail: "To us a $75 job is not worth
losing our business over. . . . We
regret that this has happened and to lose you as a customer."

While Internet service providers are commonly subpoened by law enforcement
officials, an attorney who specializes in cyber liberties at the ACLU could
not recall a similar case in which the officers acted without a warrant.
"I've never heard of anything like this involving the FBI," said Ann
Beeson, a staff attorney at the ACLU.

Neither had Z., who was terrified when the agents called. "I was thinking,
am I a criminal? I started to imagine those orange jumpsuits and spending
time in jail." Z. believes intimidation was the point of the conversation,
and that, says the ACLU, runs afoul of the First Amendment.

"Even though the ISP may not have been told, 'You must take it down,' there
are still serious constitutional problems," says Beeson. "It is certainly
constitutionally suspect for law enforcement to implicitly threaten any
private entity with censorship." (The ACLU is considering a suit.)

For Z., blurring the line between truth and fiction is what makes his work
unique. "I like to get people into
a space that's not framed by narrative," Z. says of his video. "My work
always looks like something that was not made for public consumption, and
here it tries to address issues of race." For now, those issues will have
to wait.

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[CTRL] DRUDGE: Clinton Y2K Bunker / NBC Y2K Scare Film

[Mack White]

 -Caveat Lector-

X X X X X

 DRUDGE REPORT X TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 16, 1999 18:01:22 ET X

WHITE HOUSE Y2K BUNKER COSTS $50 MILLION; WILL SHARE INFO WITH UNITED
NATIONS

The WASHINGTON POST is first to describe the White House's $50 million Y2K
nerve center -- a futuristic bunker known officially as the 'Information
Coordination Center' (ICC).

This high-tech operation will collect and analyze reports of Year 2000
computer problems and distribute the information to government policymakers,
governors, mayors, the United Nations, the news media and others.

MORE...

POSTIE Stephen Barr reports that "high definition, flat-screen television
sets hang from the walls, scattered through a large room. Desks -- equipped
with flat-panel computers and small, egg-shaped cameras for video
conferencing...

Inside the room, behind glass walls, are two rows of desks for senior
government officials and a bank of TV screens that can be tuned into network
and cable channels."

The ICC is organized specifically to monitor these Y2k sectors: economic,
infrastructure (electric power and telephones), government operations,
public health and safety, environmental (water and chemicals) and
international.

The POST quotes John Koskinen, the White House's Y2K czar:

"[W]hen the president or the public or the media wants to know what's
happening, what they mean by what's happening is what's happening everywhere
in the world at one time... This will be the one place in the world with
complete information."

Inside the ICC, top government officials will receive and interpret Y2K data
culled from around the world -- assuming the computers, networks and
electricity feeding the ICC are still working.

The ICC will begin around the clock monitoring on December 30, continuing
through the first week of January.

X X X X X



 DRUDGE REPORT X SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 13, 1999 18:01:22 ET X

NBC'S Y2K SCARE MOVIE SET FOR AIR; NETWORK PRESS RELEASES BLUR NEWS AND
ENTERTAINMENT

Anticipation is building for NBC's upcoming Y2K scare movie, now set to run
during a sweet November Sweeps spot.

The fuss film, set to air on November 21, has been criticized for exploiting
and cashing in on the nation's Y2K fears.

Last month a lawmaker on the Senate Special Committee on the Year 2000
Technology Problem blasted the project: "This is one of the most
irresponsible things to ever come out of Hollywood! Why is NBC doing this?
There are going to end up scaring people into a complete panic. Shame,
shame, shame on them!"

Even though NBC is planning to run a disclaimer at the beginning of the
movie -- "This program does not suggest or imply that any of these events
could actually occur" -- producers of Y2K now admit that they set out to
exploit the situation.

"My slogan while making the movie was, 'Paranoia is our most important
product,'" said Y2K executive producer David Israel.

Plot line of NBC's Y2K:

It starts with a news flash: An F-18 falls out of the sky at 12:01:40
somewhere in the South Seas. Soon ATM glitches show up everywhere. Machines
limit angry customers to $20 a pop. The lights go out in Paris. The Times
Square blacks out; so do Philadelphia and Scranton. 911 is cut. A
72-year-old woman dies on the operating table, becoming the first Y2K death.
A nuclear meltdown in Sweden kills all plant workers. Soon, a nuke plant in
Seattle teeters.

"As the millenium dawns in North America, most of the Eastern Seaboard
suffers a major power outage," NBC said in a press release. "But the worst
is yet to come. Nick [a complex systems failure expert consulting the
government played by actor Ken Olin] must stay ahead of the unpredictable
Y2K bug as it spreads across the United States threatening everyone,
including his own family on the West Coast."

"Drudge, this is a movie, this is entertainment," an NBC executive said over
lunch in Burbank on Friday.

"No one is going to run to the banks on Monday morning after watching this
film."

The executive conceded that the network may have gone too far this week when
it issued a press release suggesting that Y2K was a game.

"PLAY THE 'Y2K' DOOMSDAY MOVIE QUIZ" blasted NBC in a flash on the
ASSOCIATED PRESS EXPRESS wires.

A press pusher named Cathryn Boxberger in NBC's "Entertainment Publicity
Department" also issued a press release on Wednesday titled "Y2K' BITES AND
BYTES" to hype the film.

Boxberger reported: "The State Department is advising against travelling
abroad during the days following December 31st. Sources quoted in Washington
expect telephone and power failures as well as water shortages in many
foreign travel destinations."

Boxberger continued: "Citizens who fear that their savings are in jeopardy
due to the bug are expected to withdraw heavily from their accounts in the
days leading up to the new year. However, the government warns, the greater
millennium risk is of being robbed of all that cash."

Boxberger appeared to be using recent NBC NEWS Y2K items -- twisting them
into 

[CTRL] Martial Law Training in Columbia, SC

[Mack White]

 -Caveat Lector-

From Alex Jones' http://www.infowars.com/

11/13/99
A FLASH RADAR SPECIAL REPORT
THIS FROM AN EMAIL I RECEIVED TODAY

Well folks, they're at it again.  Please read what was sent to me this
morning before I located this in the papers:


I absolutely could not believe what I heard on the local news last night
here in Columbia SC. The news was warning citizens to stay away from 5
points in downtown Columbia SC. 5 points is our cities "restaurant row".
It's also all where most of the bars are located cause it's right near the
University of SC (USC).  In other words, it's pretty much the center of
nightlife here in Columbia, but NOT last night!

The local news at 7:00PM last night issued a warning to citizens to stay
away from the area as it was being used by the Marines for Urban warfare
exercises!  The late night news last night showed 5 points
abandoned except for Marines vehicles and troops.  Wonder what the hell the
college kids thought at the university when they they were turned way by
armed troops trying to go get a beer after class last night at one of the
local hangouts!  More choppers today coming into town today. Latest reports
are we now have at least several hundred Marines camped out IN the city.
Local news reported early this week that the exercises had been "extended"
from the original 1 week to a month or more. Now we hear they are here
until "further notice".  WTF?  Then today, I'm out taking my wife and our
new son to the doctor and 6
choppers fly over our truck. I'm not a military person, but it looked like
2 dark green black hawks, some other smaller dark chopper, some kind of big
"air crane" type chopper, a big white chopper (bigger than a black hawk)
and a smaller white chopper just like the smaller dark chopper but white.
A guy I work with who's wife works for the city of Columbia, told me today,
that his wife came home last night and said that one of the Marine officers
had gotten into a heated argument with our Mayor down at city hall about
"carrying live ammo". What the hell is going on? Everyone as work today was
talking about this, a lot of kinda wary jokes about we are being "invaded".

Talked to a guy in a chatroom from Myrtle Beach SC a while ago.  He
couldn't believe it. Said he had heard nothing about it.  The only report I
can find about them even being here on the net is on the Reuters/AP link
off of the Drudge report. Enter Marines in the search box, and then look on
the 2nd page of "hits". You will see a 5 line story about hundreds of
Marines conducting exercises in Columbia SC.  Very little in our local news
about what is going on except for occasional warning to stay out of this or
that area.  Is this normal?

Who has white helecopters? I assumed they were like medical helecopters or
something but someone on a chat site said they are UN. They were not light
blue or light grey but pure white. Never seen any like that around here
before.

From The State, Columbia, SC http://www.thestate.com/ :

URBAN WAR GAMES UNNECESSARY

By REBECCA BURGESS ROGERS
Special to The State
Published on 11/10/99
--
Hundreds of U.S. Marines are in town this week to train in simulated war
conditions in an urban setting. According to the Oakland Tribune, when
training was conducted there this spring, residents were willing to deal
with the slight inconvenience. But when the exercises moved into their back
yards, things changed. Despite promises to the contrary, helicopters flew
low and weapons-fire noise was at an unacceptable level.

"The helicopters in the neighborhoods were not part of the plan," said Col.
Mark Thiffault. "They were not supposed to be flying at 200 feet. Our air
planner put the exercise into play without checking with us. As a result,
we and the neighbors had a big surprise." What surprises should we expect
in Columbia?

What a tremendous public relations event to promote violent response to
conflict! How can anyone morally or ethically justify this "need" to train
our military -- in our cities or anywhere else? When our nation is the
largest purveyor of violence on this planet, it should not be surprising
that our young people are so violent.

The mayors of Oakland, Alameda and Monterey "earned" $4.5 million. Is the
military paying our mayor? And what is that money used for? Instead of
spending taxpayers' money for this high-tech,window-dressing exercise aimed
at convincing us there is a foreign enemy about to invade, it could
be better spent on the many victims of the current "urban war" -- students
whose schools are in crisis, people who have no homes, people who have been
downsized out of work.

We need to stop playing war games not only in our back yard but also in
other countries where such training is a fact of daily life. Instead, we
should be training true peacemakers to go into areas of conflict ... people
who are intensely trained and committed to work for non-violent resolutions
... people who do not carry guns.

Being a socially aware 

[CTRL] EgyptAir and JFK Jr.: Blaming the Victims

[Mack White]

 -Caveat Lector-

From newsmax.com:

Crash probe eyes flight crew
by Laura Brown and Jules Crittenden
Friday, November 12, 1999

Federal criminal investigators probing the fatal crash of EgyptAir 990 are
focusing on unusual pre-flight behavior by the plane's flight crew and are
actively pursuing leads that suggest the disaster ``was not an accident,''
a source close to the investigation said yesterday.

``The accident side has come up empty-handed so far,'' the source said.
``However, the other side has been pursuing some very interesting leads
that this aircraft was in danger.''

Information unearthed in the wake of the Oct. 31 crash indicated that at
least one member of the flight crew had reason to believe that ``something
was going to happen to the airplane,'' the source added.

National Transportation Safety Board officials leading the investigation
stress that they have not ruled out any possible cause for the crash that
killed 217 people.

``We are looking at the entire crew . . . looking at the passengers . . .
all aspects of what could be involved in this. That includes financial
problems and personal situations of those on board,'' said a law
enforcement source. ``There is not a single thing to indicate a blast or
criminal activity. We are looking at various scenarios involving people in
the cockpit.''

But investigators discovered that one member of the flight crew was so
concerned something might happen to the plane that the crew member left
money and a message for another crew member's family, the first source said.

One of the flight attendants, Hassan Sherif, 26, called his wife Rania from
New York just before he boarded the flight, saying ``there was something
wrong with the plane,'' and that he was ``very worried.''

But it was unclear yesterday which crew members investigators might be
focusing on. There were a total of 18 EgyptAir employees - 14 of whom were
listed as crew members - on board the doomed jet.

In addition to Capt. Ahmed al Habashy, who commanded the flight, there was
another captain and two flight officers listed as crew members. A third
captain and three flight officers were listed as non-fare passengers. It is
unclear who was serving as co-pilot or why an unusually large number of
officers were listed as crew members. Ten flight attendants were also on
board.

The flight data recorder, recovered late Tuesday, gave no indication that
the Boeing 767 had mechanical problems. In fact, the data that was released
Wednesday shows the aircraft was flying normally at a cruising altitude of
33,000 feet until the autopilot was disengaged.

The plane then began a ``controlled descent'' to 19,000 feet at subsonic
speed, NTSB Chairman James Hall said.

Hall's comments about the plane's descent suggested that someone at the
controls deliberately headed the aircraft downward.

Aviation experts say the information could suggest that pilots may have
been responding to an onboard emergency such as rapid decompression by
trying to lose altitude rapidly.

Earlier radar information suggested the aircraft was diving at a rate of
more than 24,000 feet per minute.

No other details from the flight data recorder's readings have been
released, and officals said they were ``still in the process of recovering
data from the remaining five to 10 seconds.''

The NTSB said last week that radar data showed the plane dropped rapidly to
16,700 feet before quickly climbing back up to 24,000 feet, then plummeting
into the ocean. All 217 people on board are presumed dead.

The cockpit voice recorder is considered critical to the investigation,
sources said. Only with the conversation between pilots and other noises
can investigators tell what was going on in the cockpit.

The search for that second ``black box'' was called off yesterday because
of high seas, but salvage workers hope to resume the hunt for the crucial
recorder in the waters off Nantucket today .

``Right now it is a routine flight, they disengaged the autopilot, started
a controlled dive and fell into the ocean,'' said one source. ``We really
hope the voice recorder will cast light on it.''

Officials have refused to speculate about whether the crash may have been
caused by terrorism, mechanical problems or human error.

Sherif was one of two flight attendants on the plane who were best friends
who had just registered their marriages to a pair of sisters in Egypt but
had not yet formally wed. The registering of a marriage in Egypt
customarily takes place in advance of the wedding.

The flight's lead pilot, Ahmed al Habashy, and flight officer, Gameel al
Battouti, were both within months of retirement, news reports indicate.
Capt. Hatem Roushdy, chief pilot of EgyptAir's fleet of 767s, was on board
as a non-fare passenger.

News accounts shortly after the disaster indicate that flight officer Adel
Anwar, who was listed as a crew member, was due to be married in a matter
of days, but suggest those plans were on track and that Anwar and his

Re: [CTRL] Rothschild/Israel article

[Mack White]

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In a message dated 11/10/1999 2:57:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The statement added that the Rothschild Group was planning to set up its
 first venture capital fund in Israel, which would focus on making initial
 investments in early-stage high-tech companies.

 Senior officials of the group, including the Baron Benjamin de Rothschild,
 will be in Israel in late November to launch the new subsidiary, the
 statement said. 

Don't I remember reading somewhere that the Rothschilds funded some Nazi
efforts?  Please correct me if I'm wrong.  Prudy

I've heard the old Nazi company I. G. Farben was originally built with
Rothschild funds.  Later, of course, it merged with the Rockefellers'
Standard Oil.

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Re: [CTRL] Rothschild/Israel article

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I've heard the old Nazi company I. G. Farben was originally built with
Rothschild funds.

Can you cite a credible reference for this?

From "The Rockefeller Syndicate" http://www.afn.org/~govern/rockfeller.html :

An important step on the road to world monopoly was the most far-reaching
corporation invented by the
Rothschilds. This was the international drug and chemical cartel, I. G.
Farben. Called "a state within a state" , it was created in 1925 as
Interessen Gemeinschaft Farbeinindustrie Aktien Gesellschaft, usually known
simply as I. G. Farben, which simply meant "The Cartel". It had originated
in 1904, when the six major chemical companies in Germany began
negotiations to form the ultimate cartel, merging Badische Anilin, Bayer,
Agfa, Hoechst, Weiler-ter-Meer, and Greisheim-Electron. The guiding
spirit,as well as the financing, came from the Rothschilds, who were
represented by their German banker, Max Warburg of M. M. Warburg Company,
Hamburg. He later headed the German Secret Service during World War I and
was personal financial advisor to the Kaiser.


It is also misleading to portray IG Farbin as an "Old Nazi company." It

From "The Rockefeller Syndicate" http://www.afn.org/~govern/rockfeller.html :

In 1930,Standard Oil announced that it had purchased an alcohol monopoly in
Germany, a deal which had been set up by I.G. Farben. After Hitler came to
power,John D. Rockefeller assigned his personal press agent, Ivy Lee, to
Hitler to serve as a fulltime advisor on the rearmament of Germany, a
necessary step for seting up World War II. Standard Oil then built large
refineries in Germany for the Nazis and continued to supply them with oil
during World War II. In the 1930's, Standard Oil was receiving in payment
from Germany large shipments of musical instruments and ships which had
been built in German yards.

The dreaded Gestapo, the Nazi police force, was actually built from the
worldwide intelligence network which I.G. Farben had maintained since its
inception. Herman Schmitz, who had succeeded Carl Bosch as head of I.G.,
had been personal advisor to Chancellor Breuning; when Hitler took over,
Schmitz then became his most trusted secret counselor.

So well concealed was the association that the press had orders never to
photograph them together. Schmitz was named an honorary member of the
Reichstag, while his assistant, Carl Krauch, became Goering's principal
advisor in carrying out the Nazis' Four Year Plan. A business associate
Richard Krebs, later testified before the House Un-American Activities
Committee, "The I.G. Farbinidustrie, I know from personal experience, was
already, in 1934, completely in the hands of the Gestapo." This was a
misstatement; the I.G. Farben had merely allied itself WITH the Gestapo.

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[CTRL] Seven Killed in Honolulu Shooting

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Seven Killed in Honolulu
   Shooting

   By BRUCE DUNFORD
   Associated Press Writer

   HONOLULU (AP) - An attacker
   opened fire Tuesday at a Xerox
   building, killing seven people before
   fleeing, authorities said.

   The seven were found dead at the
   office building on North Nimitz
   Highway, a few miles from
   downtown, after the shootings that
   erupted shortly after 8 a.m. (1 p.m.
   EST)

   ``There are seven fatalities in the
   building, in various areas of the
   building,'' Richard Soo of the city fire
   department told MSNBC. Ambulance
   teams that went into the building
   found a ``grisly'' scene, he said.

   Witnesses said a suspect fled in a
   Xerox company van. Police said the
   van later was found abandoned,
   according to broadcast reports.

   Soo said the man was described as an
   Asian male.

   Police evacuated another Xerox
   building, in downtown Honolulu, as a
   precaution in case the gunman was
   heading that way.

   The site of the shootings is quite a
   distance away from the Waikiki area
   where tourists go.

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[CTRL] FBI Warns Y2K May Spark Violence

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FBI Warns '2000' May Spark Violence
By David A. Vise and Lorraine Adams
Washington Post Staff Writers

Sunday, October 31, 1999

The FBI is warning police chiefs across the country that it has discovered
evidence of religious extremists, racists, cults and other groups preparing
for violence as New Year's Eve approaches and is urging law enforcement
agencies to view the dawn of the next millennium as a catalyst for criminal
activities.

The FBI says those most likely to perpetrate violence are motivated either
by religious beliefs relating to the Apocalypse, or are New World Order
conspiracists convinced the United Nations has a secret plan to conquer the
world.

In a 34-page report prepared by the bureau's domestic terrorism unit, the
FBI says some members of militias and racist groups, including one called
"Christian Identity" and another called "Odinism," are acquiring weapons
and surveying targets in anticipation of the millennium.

FBI officials plan to brief law enforcement officials about the millennial
threat at a closed-door meeting of the International Association of Chiefs
of Police in North Carolina on Tuesday.

The report, a copy of which was obtained by The Washington Post, says that
local law enforcement officials need to monitor radical groups for behavior
such as stockpiling weapons and food that may indicate they are preparing
for violence.

Neil Gallagher, head of the FBI's national security division, said in an
interview that the bureau is not predicting that terrorism or violence will
occur on or around Jan. 1. Instead, he said the report is aimed at making
local law enforcement officials "more sensitive" to the heightened security
risks posed by the year 2000. He also said the public needs to be "aware
but not scared" of such threats. The report says the risks will increase as
Jan. 1 approaches.

"If a cult sells its property and personal effects and purchases guns and
explosives, we need to be more concerned about what that cult will do on
January 1," Gallagher said.

Computer problems brought on by Y2K glitches could be a triggering event
for some groups, the FBI believes. While most people understand that power
outages or other problems resulting from Y2K problems can be explained
rationally, the report notes that some radical groups or individual
extremists may view these events either as signs that the end of the world
is near or as part of a larger conspiracy that they must violently oppose,
the report says.

"The threat posed by extremists as a result of perceived events associated
with the Year 2000 (Y2K) is very real," the FBI report says. "The volatile
mix of apocalyptic religious and [New World Order] conspiracy theories may
produce violent acts aimed at precipitating the end of the world as
prophesied in the Bible."

The report is the result of a nine-month intelligence-gathering effort
called "Project Megiddo" by the bureau's domestic terrorism unit, which
also relied on information gathered by agents in FBI field offices. The
effort is intended to serve as a "strategic assessment" of the potential
for domestic terrorism linked directly to the coming millennium, rather
than a general assessment of the terrorist environment.

The agents have discovered that in preparation for the new millennium,
certain individuals tied to these groups have been acquiring weapons,
storing food and clothing, raising funds, procuring safe houses, preparing
compounds, surveying potential targets, and recruiting converts to their
cause.

In its report, the FBI describes several groups that it says have some
members that pose a violent threat. "Christian Identity" followers,
comprising loosely knit groups throughout the country, are "ardently
opposed to race mixing" and believe that the "white Aryan race is God's
chosen race." Christian Identity provides the "unifying theology" for a
number of "right-wing" groups that pose a threat, the report says.
"Odinists" also adhere to a white supremacist ideology and can be dangerous
because many members believe in becoming "martyrs for the cause," the
report says.

Fringe members of the Aryan Nations white supremacist group may pose a
threat because extremist members will not necessarily adhere to their
leader Richard Butler's public renunciation of violence, according to the
FBI. In addition, radical U.S. members of a group called the "Black Hebrew
Israelites," who are proponents of "an extreme form of black supremacy,"
also pose a threat.

"Current intelligence from a variety of sources indicates that extreme
factions of [Black Hebrew Israelites] groups are preparing for a race war
to close the millennium," the FBI report says.

While most of the report focuses on domestic threats, an entire portion is
devoted to Jerusalem, where the FBI says an influx of tourists making
pilgrimages and millennial cults will add to the danger. The study also
says violence in Jerusalem, a holy city for Christians, Jews and Muslims,
could lead to 

[CTRL] Channel 36/Austin: Bush Grazed By Trash

[Mack White]

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As one familiar with the Town Lake jogging trail on a daily basis, I can
verify it is most unusual (unheard of) for dump trucks to nearly hit
people, let alone presidential front-runners.

Mack White
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From http://kxan.com/

Bush Grazed By Trash

There was a mishap while Governor George W. Bush was jogging on the hike
and bike trail Monday morning.

The Governor and his security detail were running near Cesar Chavez, around
the Lamar Bridge area.

Police say a private garbage truck apparently lost control, and spilled trash.

One of the Governor's body guards was hit by the trash, and the Governor
was grazed by some of the trash.

The injured body guard, a state trooper, was taken to Brackenridge
Hospital. He's listed in fair condition.

The Governor was treated at the scene.

Tune into News 36 at 6 for complete coverage of this story.

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Tavistock / Bill Hicks

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I hope Alex will throw a comedian into the mix as well.  Bill Hicks --
dead of pancreatic cancer at age 32.  He did a great
"USA-as-a-totalitarian-government" routine and that's just the tip of the
iceberg.  I first saw him on HBO from the Palladium Theatre in London.
His theory was that life is Just a Ride.  You can approach it with either
fear or love.  Near the end of the show, he remarks that every now and then,
someone comes along to remind us of this and what do we do?  We KILL those
people.  The picture of Bill fades out and we see a gun, then hear a gunshot.
 Fade back in to the picture of Bill, and you see him falling dead on the
stage.
I looked for him after that and the next time I saw him referred to on
television, it was on A  E.  It was a post-mortem -- maybe two years later.
Letterman, for one, expressed his regrets at not having Bill on the show more
often.  Bill wouldn't alter his material for Letterman so he was rejected.
I'm the only one I know of who is suspicious about Bill's death.  The
pancreatic cancer reminded me of what Jack Ruby alleged -- that he had been
injected with liver cancer cells.

You're not the only one.  I've wondered the same thing.  Hicks' sudden
death followed his NBC censorship fracas by only a few weeks.  It is as if
he was spotted as a loose cannon, someone who could not be counted on to
alter his material (he talked about Waco, among other things) on national
tv, so in a preemptive strike he was gotten rid of before he could make a
lot more trouble later--and be a lot more difficult to get rid of once he
had crossed over from night clubs to tv.

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[CTRL] Millennium Bash Decried As Plot

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Tuesday October 19 7:44 AM ET

 Millennium Bash Decried As Plot

 CAIRO (Reuters) - An Islamist newspaper on Tuesday denounced Egypt's plans
for a spectacular New
 Year millennium celebration as part of a Zionist plot to lay claim to the
pyramids.

 Al-Shaab, bi-weekly mouthpiece of Egypt's Islamist-oriented Labor Party,
argued that the show,
 organized by ``Zionist'' French musician Jean-Michel Jarre, would bolster
what it called Zionist claims
 that Jews had constructed the 4,500-year-old pyramids.

 ``The Jews claim that they are owners of Egypt's ancient civilization and
the builders of the pyramids,''
 wrote Labor Party Secretary-General Adel Hussein in a frontpage article.

 Jarre, famous for albums such as Oxygene and Equinoxe, will perform a
12-hour electronic opera in a
 $9 million spectacular on the pyramids plateau, featuring 1,000
performers, lasers, fireworks, and a mix
 of Oriental and Western music.

 ``The climax of the awesome celebration is the placing of gold cap on the
main (Cheops) pyramid. What
 we are dealing with here is crowning the top of our Great Pyramid with the
symbol of Masonic
 Zionism,'' Hussein wrote.

 Egypt's Culture Minister Farouk Hosni has already come under fire from
nationalists in the arts
 community for choosing a foreigner to lead the millennium party, expected
to attract thousands of
 tourists and intense media interest.

 ``The minister is free to choose who he wants,'' said Culture Ministry
spokesman Ahmed Khalil on
 Tuesday. ``If (Jarre) is a Zionist or not is nothing to do with us. He's
an artist.''

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Tavistock, SRI--HAARP, Drugs, much more

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targeted for change against its will. New words and new
phrases--prepared by Tavistock-- were introduced to America along with
the Beatles. Words such as "rock" in relation to music sounds,
"teenager," "cool," "discovered" and "pop music" were a lexicon of
disguised code words signifying the acceptance of drugs and arrived with
and accompanied the Beatles wherever they went, to be "discovered" by

Following the Beatles, who incidentally were put together by the
Tavistock Institute, came other "Made in England" rock groups, who, like
the Beatles, had Theo Adorno write their cult lyrics and compose all the
"music."

This is an amazing accomplishment.  Years ago when I was a "teenager" I
never would have guessed that ONE man wrote the "music" for the Beatles,
Herman's Hermits, the Rolling Stones, Freddie and the Dreamers--ALL of 'em.
Truly, he is one of the great unknown heroes of "rock."  I think it would
be "cool" if Adorno were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

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[CTRL] PKD, THE UNICORN AND OPERATION MIND CONTROL 1/2

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 PKD, THE UNICORN AND OPERATION MIND
 CONTROL

  By Adam Gorightly

 In December '93 I penned a piece entitled PKD, The Unicorn and Soviet
Psychotronics, which
 addressed--among other things--Soviet mind control experiments utilizing
technologies discovered by
 Serbian inventor Nikola Tesla around the turn of the century.

 PKD, of course, was Philip K. Dick, the late great speculative fiction
novelist, who believed many
 strange things had happened to his head during the seventies, one such
event being an alien invasion
 with just this type of Tesla technology. Phil later came to believe this
Soviet mind control experiment
 upon his temporal lobe had developed into something far more stranger (if
that was at all possible)
 when an alien entity consisting of pure information skyjacked these
psychotronically produced Soviet
 projections, using them to beam extraterrestrial messages of a benevolent
nature into Phil's oft
 befuddled mind.

 "The Unicorn"--as he was known to friends and fellow researchers--was none
other than Ira Einhorn, a
 prominent figure in the New Age Counterculture of the late sixties and
seventies. Phil and Ira became
 acquainted through the auspices of CoEvolution Quarterly, later renamed
The Whole Earth Review, a
 by-product of former Merry Prankster Stewart Brand's revolutionary
brainchild, The Whole Earth
 Catalog. Within the letter section of CoEvolution Quarterly, Dick and
Einhorn initiated a dialogue on
 Soviet psychotronics  mind control, and it's far reaching implications.
Shortly afterwards, Einhorn's
 girlfriend and fellow researcher, Holly Maddux's dismembered body parts
were discovered in a
 steamer trunk in Einhorn's Philadelphia apartment, and Einhorn charged
with her murder.

 In PKD, The Unicorn and Soviet Psychotronics I presented what at that time
was nothing more than a
 visceral theory which posited that Einhorn might've been set up to take
the rap of Holly's murder to
 silence him at a juncture when he was bringing to the forefront Tesla's
hidden technologies, and the
 profound impact these technologies would have upon humankind if they were
to ever become widely
 known. Now, just recently, an affirmation of my gut feeling/theory has
been seconded by Walter
 Bowart in a revised and updated edition of his classic Operation Mind
Control( OMC), recently
 reissued by Flatland.

 In Chapter 29: Invisible Warfare, Bowart discusses areas of mind control
that--at the time of the first
 printing of OMC in the late seventies--were just beginning to come to the
attention of
 cryptocracy/conspiracy researchers. A more advanced technology of mind
control--according to
 Bowart--had taken the place of such traditional covert modus operandi as
mind altering drugs and
 hypnosis, supplanting them with the insidious use of various psychotronic
technologies such as ELF
 waves, microwaves and other forms of electromagnetic manipulation, whereby
waves tuned to a certain
 frequency could induce a subject to become more prone to auto-suggestion,
and perhaps even induce
 depressive or overly aggressive ASC's. (Some of these weapons have been
referred to as Non-Lethal in
 recent military literature.) Besides affecting the human mind and body,
some have suggested, certain
 forms of electromagnetic waves could also effect weather patterns from
great distances.

 One of the chief proponents in exposing the use of these covert
technologies is Lt. Colonel Thomas
 Beardon, USAF(Ret.), a close friend and former associate of the
aforementioned "Unicorn". A former
 military intelligence officer, Beardon publishes Specula, a magazine
devoted to "psychotronics" and
 "bio-energetics". In the mid eighties, Bill Jenkins hosted a radio program
on AM KFI in Los Angeles
 which on a weekly basis dealt with subjects of the paranormal. The first
time I tuned into Jenkin's show
 his guest was none other than Col. Beardon, who spoke of a mysterious
"woodpecker" signal, which
 during that era had become quite the hot topic among ham operators around
the world. The so-called
 "woodpecker" signal could be replicated by tapping a pencil on a table
between eight and fourteen times
 each second. Beardon claimed this signal emanated from the Soviet Union
and had been traced to an
 alleged "Tesla Generator" in the cities of Riga and Gomel, and that the
"woodpecker" signal was
 responsible for weather modification wars covertly waged upon an
unsuspecting United States citizenry
 by the wily and unscrupulous Russians. These manipulations of U.S. weather
patterns created a drought
 in the western states which ostensibly caused severe effects on farming
and the economy in 1976, the
 same year the infamous "woodpecker" signal was first discovered. Such
discoveries as these--shared
 with, and dispersed by, The Unicorn--are what many believe led to his
subsequent fall from grace,
 when the figurative horn fell from his head, as 

[CTRL] New military unit for domestic deployment

[Mack White]

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WEDNESDAY
OCTOBER 13
1999

New military unit
for domestic deployment

 By Jon E. Dougherty
 © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

Critics are denouncing recent congressional changes to the Posse Comitatus
Act that will allow a broader use of U.S. military forces in a domestic law
enforcement role including a new unit for deployment in assisting civilian
officers during a terrorist attack.

The new command, established Oct. 7 in Norfolk, Va., will be called the
U.S. Joint Forces Command, and replaces the former U.S. Atlantic Command.
At a ceremony commemorating the new unit, Defense Secretary William Cohen
told participants the American people shouldn't fear the potential of
seeing U.S. military forces on the streets of U.S. cities.

The military must "deal with the threats we are most likely to face," Cohen
told reporters, downplaying concerns about troops operating on home soil.
"The American people should not be concerned about it. They should welcome
it."

The new command is designed to prepare U.S. troops to fight abroad or to
respond if terrorists strike with nuclear, chemical or biological weapons.

In opposing the measure, critics cite the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act, which
prohibits federal troops from
participating in domestic law enforcement activities under most
circumstances. With the concern over domestic terrorism rising since the
World Trade Center bombing and numerous incidences of cyber-attacks on U.S.
defense and financial institutions, the Clinton administration has begun to
relax some of those restrictions.

In July, WorldNetDaily reported the new measures would end the requirement
for local law agencies to reimburse the federal government for any local
use of military equipment, as well as enable the Department of Defense to
deploy military troops in cases of anticipated or actual terrorist
attacks.

Then, David Kopel of the Independence Institute warned that the measures
would, if passed, "set (bad) precedents for years to come."

Since the Waco debacle in 1993, when federal law officers and military
personnel assaulted a church community  resulting in the deaths of over 80
men, women and children, Kopel said the federal government has been
"eroding the  protections contained in the Posse Comitatus Act." In the
past, he told WorldNetDaily, most of the amendments to the  original law
had been based on bogus drug issues. Now, he said, that issue seems to have
shifted to so-called terrorist attacks, or at least the threat of them.

The Defense Department has said only the military has enough equipment to
operate in a poisoned environment, or to manage a massive decontamination
effort. Secretary Cohen told reporters last week that federal law will not
be violated because the military would only respond if requested.

"It is subordinate to civilian control," he said.

But Gregory Nojeim, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties
Union in Washington, D.C., told WorldNetDaily he is concerned about
"nightmare scenarios" like those in the recent films, "Enemy of the State"
and "The Siege."

"Soldiers are not equipped, by training or temperament, to enforce the laws
with proper regard for civil and constitutional rights," he said. "They're
trained to kill the enemy."

Nojeim said the ACLU is concerned about "letting loose the most effective
fighting force in the history of the world" on American civilians.

Cohen said that the creation of the Joint Forces Command would better
coordinate the training of the four armed services. However, history is
replete with reasons why some Americans continue to be hesitant about using
military troops in a law enforcement capacity.

Besides questions about the Army's Delta Force role during the Waco siege,
most recently, in 1997, U.S. Marines assigned to assist the U.S. Border
Patrol in combating illegal  immigration accidentally shot and killed an
18-year-old goat  herder. That force has since been withdrawn and
reassigned,  but lawmakers have remained committed to expanding the
military's civil law enforcement role in other ways.

For example, the military also has been given an expanded role in defending
against cyber-terrorism, or assaults on U.S. computer systems. The U.S.
Space Command in Colorado will be leading that effort.

Nojeim questioned the need for such an expansion of federal military forces
into the domestic law enforcement arena, even though U.S. officials have
said the nation is now at greater risk of terrorist attack. He also
believes the White House should do a better job of educating the American
people about why the changes to the Posse Comitatus law are needed.

"For years the federal government has showered the FBI with hundreds of
millions of new dollars to help it combat crimes involving chemical and
biological weapons," he told  WorldNetDaily. "Taxpayers need to know where
that money has gone and why the president now wants to call in the troops."

Addressing the long-term ramifications of the change in military law

[CTRL] Operation Blue Beam: The Comic Story

[Mack White]

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"Operation Blue Beam," a new comic story, may be read at my website:

http://www.mackwhite.com

Mack White

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[CTRL] CLINTON DOUBTS FBI'S MOTIVES Suggests Focus On China Gifts Hides Waco Woes

[Mack White]

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NATIONAL ISSUE

CLINTON DOUBTS FBI'S MOTIVES Suggests Focus
On China Gifts Hides Waco Woes

Date: 9/28/99
Author: Paul Sperry

In what's turning into an internecine feud between the White House and the
FBI, President
Clinton charged that the FBI is trying to turn the spotlight away from its
new Waco troubles by
raising doubts about the probe into White House fund-raising.

Four career FBI agents told the Senate Wednesday that the Justice
Department has thwarted their
investigation of illegal foreign funds to the 1996 Clinton-Gore re-election
effort.

''The FBI wants you to write about that rather than write about Waco,'' a
visibly angry Clinton
told Investor's Business Daily Friday night at the White House.

Justice earlier this month seized from the FBI videotapes that were
withheld from congressional
investigators after the agency's 1993 raid on the Branch Davidian compound
in Waco, Texas.

Attorney General Janet Reno has turned over the case to former Sen. John
Danforth, R-Mo., for
an independent probe.

The president's statement, called ''extraordinary'' by Hill leaders, marked
the first time he's
criticized his own bureau in public.

Asked about it, FBI spokesman Jim Davis said, ''I'm pretty confident we
have no comment,''
adding that FBI Director Louis Freeh is out of town.

Davis allowed that the FBI is aware that the ''relationship between the
bureau and the president
and (between the bureau and) the attorney general'' is drawing more and
more negative press.

Freeh butted heads with Reno in 1997 when he argued for an independent
counsel to probe the
fund-raising scandal.

Some compare the discord between Clinton and his chief law enforcement
agency to the one that
developed between President Nixon and Justice as the Watergate probe crept
closer to the Oval
Office.

In 1973, Attorney General Elliot Richardson and Deputy Attorney General
William Ruckelshaus
resigned after balking at Nixon's orders to fire Watergate special
prosecutor Archibald Cox.
Solicitor General Robert Bork wound up axing Cox and his staff of 60
lawyers in what's known
as the ''Saturday Night Massacre.''

Referring to Clinton, Brookings Institution presidential scholar Stephen
Hess said: ''The idea
that the president is acting as if the FBI is trying to do him in is pretty
fascinating.''

Clinton also lashed out at Republicans in responding to several IBD
questions about the
fund-raising probe, which has turned up at least $300,000 intended for
Clinton from the Chinese
military:

''The GOP wants that to be the story rather than guns'' and other issues
that ''people care
about,'' he said, adding that ''not one person has brought up'' the
Chinagate scandal on his
stops around the country.

''You want to know the only person who has been linked to money from
China?'' Clinton said.
''Haley Barbour and the RNC (Republican National Committee), that's who.''

''Bob Dole had more FEC (Federal Election Commission) fines than I did,''
he said.

Asked Monday if Clinton stands by his statements, White House spokesman
Richard Siewert
said: ''The president does not regret making those comments.''

Republicans say the reaction is typical for Clinton.

''He always likes to attack others more than defend his own positions,''
said a senior Republican
White House official.

''He has trouble with the facts and the truth,'' said House Government
Reform Committee
spokesman Mark Corallo. ''So it wouldn't surprise me, in this case, for the
president to be
ignoring the facts that his party and his re-election committee and his
legal defense fund were the
recipients of millions of dollars in illegal money from foreign sources
-much of it coming from
Communist China.''

The Democratic National Committee has had to return over $3 million in
illegal or improper
donations from the 1996 campaign. The RNC returned $102,400 in illegal
donations from the
Florida unit of a Hong Kong-based real- estate company.

The 1991-93 RNC donations are apparently the ones Clinton cited. Barbour
was RNC chairman
at the time, though Hong Kong was still part of Britain, not China, back then.

Barbour, now head of a Washington lobbying firm, is a target of Reno's
campaign-finance task
force. IBD was unable to reach Barbour for comment.

The impromptu interview with Clinton, conducted on the South Lawn not far
from the Oval
Office during a dinner for the press, lasted about 10 minutes and started
with a single and simple
question: ''When's your next formal press conference, Mr. President?''

Clinton was testy throughout. Observers say his face turned red when
questioned about the
Chinagate probe. The questions came only after Clinton asked why he should
hold another
formal news conference.

''He was pretty exercised, and I was surprised he'd get so exercised about
the campaign finance
stuff,'' said Washington-based Seattle Times reporter James Grimaldi, who
overheard the
exchange and filed a story Sunday. ''He actually blew up.''

Staffers for CNN and the 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Fort Worth Shooter Reported Linked to Ultra-Fascist Hate Group

[Mack White]

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(from: http://www.cnn.com/US/9909/17/church.shooting.03/index.html
Tapes, letters reveal gunman's chilling actions, thoughts)
snip
"The Houston Chronicle published a report Friday that Ashbrook might
have been a member of a group that advocates killing Jews.

"John Craig, co-author of an academic study of hate groups, said
Ashbrook boasted in 1996 he was a member of a group called the Phineas
Priests."
snip

Curious then that Ashbrook was allegedly gunning down Christians while
denouncing them as WELL as Masons and other organizations.

Especially when you consider that Wedgwood is the Jewish neigborhood of
Fort Worth.  Directly across the freeway from Wedgwood Baptist is a very
large synagogue.

Mack White

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Re: [CTRL] September Massacre--Dallas/Fort Worth Location No Surprise

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- Original Message -
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 Some "oddities"--
 There are reports of another gunman or participant being involved.

Where are these reports? Please cite references for the rest of us. It's
useless without it.

I just spoke by phone with a friend in Fort Worth.  He confirmed that the
earliest Dallas-Fort Worth area tv reports spoke of a possible second
gunman.  He also confirmed that a Fort Worth city official stated in a
press conference that the ATF was on the scene almost immediately.

It may also be significant that the shootings precisely coincided with last
night's ceremony celebrating the reopening of the UT Tower here in Austin.
The Tower, of course, was the site of the nation's first massacre of this
type.

The Fort Worth massacre sends a message to Gov. George W. Bush, who has
been behind the revelations on Waco.  Jim Frantz (sp?), head of DPS, is a
long-time crony of Bush.

There are two factions at war.  Fort Worth is just the latest event in that
war.

Mack White

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[CTRL] Wace, Vince Foster, and the Secret War (Revised/Updated)

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Waco, Vince Foster, and the Secret War
(Revised  Updated 9/16/99)

by Mack White

In the year after the famous fire at Waco, I met the surviving Branch
Davidians. It was through a friend of mine, Richard Mosley, who produced
the documentary Day 51: The True Story of Waco.

I had done some research on Jonestown, the CIA mind control facility in
Guyana which had come to a spectular end in 1977. Officially, Jonestown was
a mass suicide, and when the Mt. Carmel complex in Waco caught on the fire,
the FBI immediately labeled it "another Jonestown." In reality, however,
Jonestown itself was not "another Jonestown." It has been established long
ago that most of the Jonestown dead did not voluntarily drink the Evil
Kool-Aid, but showed signs of having been either forcibly injected with
cyanide or killed by machine gun.

So in the summer I was interviewed in the documentary stating something to
that effect. Then the following April, one year after the fire, the
documentary was finished and Richard invited me to attend a screening in
Waco with the surviving Branch Davidians. This came at an opportune time,
for I had just taken on assignment from The Nose magazine to do a
three-page piece of comics journalism, "Waco: One Year Later" (later
reprinted in my book Villa of the Mysteries #2). I was eager to meet the
surviving Davidians and hear firsthand what had happened.

So I drove to Waco on a Wednesday night--the first anniversary date, April
19, was exactly one week away--and met them. There were about a dozen
Davidians in attendance, including Clive Doyle, Sheila Martin, and Wally
Kennett.

I found these people to be--well, just that--people, not the fiendish
"cultists" described by the mainstream media. They were a quiet lot, not at
all pushy with their religion, and seemed, more than anything else, sad and
puzzled by the way they had been demonized by the government and the
mainstream media.

They told me how, during the previous year, they had all been interviewed
by a woman reporter from ABC's 20/20. They had told her many things, such
as how the Davidians who had run out the back of the flaming building--the
side not covered by television cameras--had been killed by FBI sniper fire.
The reporter had been excited by these revelations, and told them it was
going to be a powerful segment. "Be sure to watch," she told them. They
did, and were dismayed to find their interviews liberally edited. The
business about the snipers, among other things, had been left out. The
reporter called them the next day to apologize. It was not her fault, she
told them. It had been her producer in New York who had censored the story.

Fortunately, Day 51 was not subject to censorship. Among the things dealt
with in that documentary was the FBI sniper fire. Yet, at that early date,
there was no hard physical evidence for these shootings--only the testimony
of the surviving Davidians. Since then, however, another documentary has
appeared--Waco: The Rules of Engagement--in which infrared video taken by a
surveillance helicopter clearly shows sniper fire, as well as tanks firing
incendiary devices into the building.

This infrared video footage, incidentally, is said to have been leaked by
William Colby, former director of the CIA. Shortly after this leak
occurred, Colby died in a rather odd boating accident. He had, during the
last few years of his life, been involved with the Strategic Investments
newsletter, which has been a source for information on various scandals
regarding President Bill Clinton.

One thing not dealt with in Rules of Engagement, however, is the cause of
the Waco massacre. Yes, we get an explanation, but it is the standard one:
It was funding time in Congress, the ATF wanted to put on a big show,
things got out of hand, mistakes were made, etc. etc. But is that really
all there is to say about the matter?

Day 51 interviewed Davidian Wally Kennett, who stated the ATF was in
actuality not looking for an illegal
arsenal when they raided Mt. Carmel on February 28, 1993, but rather for
information stored on a computer. This information, he alleged, had been
compiled by two Davidians--Jeff Little and Wayne Martin--both of whom were
killed in the final assault on April 19. Furthermore, Kennett states that
it was this computer, not guns or anything else, that was kept in the room
which the ATF attempted to enter the morning of the raid.

If this is so, then it explains why the ATF went ahead with the raid on
February 28, when they knew the bulk of the arsenal had been taken to
Austin for a gun show that morning.

Jeff Little was known by the Davidians to have been a "computer expert" who
had previously worked for the Yamaha Corporation, and had been involved in
a shady project to modify a law enforcement software to contain a "trap
door."

The Octopus: Secret Government and the Death of Danny Casolaro, by Kenn
Thomas and the late Ji

[CTRL] Waco, Vince Foster, and the Secret War 2/2

[Mack White]

 -Caveat Lector-

Waco, Vince Foster, and the Secret War 2/2
Copyright 1999 Mack White

This money had come to Foster due to his involvement in what is now known
as the October Surprise. Allegedly, Foster, acting under the auspices of
George Bush and Casper Weinberger, had arranged for the transfer of nuclear
launch codes to Israel, in return for their role in mediating the delayed
release of the hostages in Iran.

Numerous parties, then, may have had reason to kill Foster, in order to
prevent the scandal that was about to break. Some say it was the Mossad,
and claim surveillance video exists which shows Mossad agents leaving
Foster's apartment on the day of his death.

Yet, officially, the explanation for Foster's death remains suicide. We are
asked to believe that this lawyer was a sensitive soul who, with the Travel
Office scandal and Whitewater threatening to engulf him, could no longer
endure the cruel world of politics and so bade farewell not only to
Washington, but to life itself.

Vince Foster's widow, however, has another explanation for his alleged
suicide. In an Associated Press story, she stated his death had something
to do with the Waco incident, which had occurred only a few months before.
According to her, he felt responsible for what happened in Waco, and that
is why he killed himself.

If it is true that Foster was involved in the modification of PROMIS, and
if it is true, as the surviving Branch Davidians claim, that Jeff Little
was involved in a government project which sounds suspiciously like the
modification of PROMIS, then it would seem we have found another, deeper
link between Foster and Waco.

Many have alleged that Mt. Carmel Center was an intelligence front of some
kind. For instance, the minister of a rival Davidian church in Waco told me
that, under Koresh, it had been a biowarfare factory. This view was shared
by lawyer and "Patriot" Linda Thompson, who in a Penthouse interview,
alleged it was a CIA facility, and that the ATF raid was orchestrated by
the FBI, acting in alliance with Israel's Mossad, to shut the factory.

At first I was inclined to dismiss this idea. However, since Waco, we have
seen evidence that a Japanese "cult" was involved in the manufacture and
terrorist use of deadly sarin gas. So this cannot be ruled out as the sort
of activity for which a church might be used as a front.

And yet, there is no evidence biological warfare agents were being
manufactured at Waco.  There is evidence, however, that an amphetamine
factory existed at Waco. This comes from the Davidians themselves.

After David Koresh took over leadership of the group in the 1980s, the
Davidians were renovating Mt. Carmel and found evidence of this factory.
They alleged it had been the work of former leader George Roden. Indeed, it
was well known throughout Texas in the early 1980s that the "best speed"
came from Waco.

Roden left after a power struggle with Koresh. At last report, he was
living in a mental   institution in Big Spring, Texas. On at least two
occasions he has escaped from this facility, and once managed to travel all
the way to the Israeli embassy in New York. He claims some sort of
connection with the Israeli government.

Israel figured prominently in Koresh's life, too. It was while on a trip to
Israel in the 1980s that he received a "vision" which started him on his
new career as spiritual leader. The book IWhy Waco?/I reports that
Koresh continued to receive visions after returning to the U.S., and that
the insights he used for his sermons always originated as pictures being
beamed into his head.

One is reminded here of the Gnostic imagery which the late science fiction
author Philip K. Dick claimed was beamed into his head by an external
entity. Perhaps Dick's and Koresh's "visions" originated from God, perhaps
from extraterrestrials, perhaps from their own minds, or perhaps they were
delivered by microwave. More than one person has suggested Dick might have
been a mind control victim, and the allegation has also been raised that
Waco might have been a Jonestown-style mind control facility.

Whatever the explanation for Koresh's visions, his leadership represented a
new era  for the church. There is no evidence speed, or sarin, or anything
of the kind,was manufactured during his tenure at Waco. What does seem to
have gone on, though, is computer espionage--if what the Davidians say
about their deceased brethren Jeff Little and Wayne Martin can be believed.

The question then becomes, if Little and Martin were engaged in such
activity, what could have been the nature of the information they were
gathering?

In Day 51, Richard Mosley took a guess and suggested it might have had
something to do with ATF-sponsored illegal arms distributions to urban
street gangs.  However, he has since eliminated that suggestion from the
latest edition of the documentary, preferring to leave the question open.

The presence of a speed lab

[CTRL] Waco, Vince Foster, and the Secret War 1/2

[Mack White]

 -Caveat Lector-

Waco, Vince Foster, and the Secret War 1/2
Copyright 1999 Mack White

In the year after the famous fire at Waco, I met the surviving Branch
Davidians. It was through a friend of mine, Richard Mosley, who produced
the documentary Day 51: The True Story of Waco.

I had done some research on Jonestown, the CIA mind control facility in
Guyana which had come to a spectular end in 1977. Officially, Jonestown was
a mass suicide, and when the Mt. Carmel complex in Waco caught on the fire,
the FBI immediately labeled it "another Jonestown." In reality, however,
Jonestown itself was not "another Jonestown." It has been established long
ago that most of the Jonestown dead did not voluntarily drink the Evil
Kool-Aid, but showed signs of having been either forcibly injected with
cyanide or killed by machine gun.

For his documentary on Waco, Richard needed a talking head to describe
Jonestown.  So I was pressed into service, and was interviewed for the
documentary. Then, the following April, one year after the fire, the
documentary was finished and he invited me to attend a screening in Waco
with the surviving Branch Davidians. This came at an opportune time, for I
had just been assigned by The Nose magazine to do a three-page piece of
comics journalism, "Waco: One Year Later" (later reprinted in Villa of the
Mysteries #2). I was eager to meet the surviving Davidians and hear
firsthand what had happened.

So I drove to Waco on a Wednesday night--the first anniversary date, April
19, was exactly one week away--and met them. There were about a dozen
Davidians in attendance, including Clive Doyle, Sheila Martin, and Wally
Kennett.

I found these people to be--well, just that--people, not the fiendish
"cultists" described by the mainstream media. They were a quiet lot, not at
all pushy with their religion, and seemed, more than anything else, sad and
puzzled by the way they had been demonized by the government and the
mainstream media.

They told me how, during the previous year, they had all been interviewed
by a woman reporter from ABC's 20/20. They had told her many things, such
as how the Davidians who had run out the back of the flaming building--the
side not covered by television cameras--had been killed by FBI sniper fire.
The reporter had been excited by these revelations, and told them it was
going to be a powerful segment. "Be sure to watch," she told them. They
did, and were dismayed to find their interviews liberally edited. The
business about the snipers, among other things, had been left out. The
reporter called them the next day to apologize. It was not her fault, she
told them. It had been her producer in New York who had censored the story.

Fortunately, Day 51 was not subject to censorship. Among the things dealt
with in that documentary was the FBI sniper fire. Yet, at that early date,
there was no hard physical evidence for these shootings--only the testimony
of the surviving Davidians .Since then, however, another documentary has
appeared--Waco: The Rules of Engagement--in which infrared video taken by
a surveillance helicopter clearly shows sniper fire, as well as tanks
firing incendiary devices into the building.

One thing not dealt with in Rules of Engagement, however, is the cause of
the Waco massacre. Yes, we get an explanation, but it is the standard one:
It was funding time in Congress, the ATF wanted to put on a big show,
things got out of hand, mistakes were made, etc. etc. But is that really
all there is to say about the matter?

Day 51 interviewed Davidian Wally Kennett, who stated the ATF was in
actuality not looking for an illegal arsenal when they raided Mt. Carmel
on February 28, 1993, but rather for information stored on a computer.
This information, he alleged, had been compiled by two Davidians--Jeff
Little and Wayne Martin--both of whom were killed in the final assault on
April 19. Furthermore, Kennett states that it was this computer, not guns
or anything else, that was kept in the room which the ATF attempted to
enter the morning of the raid.

If this is so, then it explains why the ATF went ahead with the raid on
February 28, when they knew the bulk of the arsenal had been taken to
Austin for a gun show that morning.

Jeff Little was known by the Davidians to have been a "computer expert" who
had previously worked for the Yamaha Corporation, and had been involved in
a shady project to modify a law enforcement software to contain a "trap
door." At the time Day 51 was produced, this tidbit of information meant
nothing. However, in the years that have followed, new information has
emerged which gives it a great deal of meaning.

The Octopus: Secret Government and the Death of Danny Casalaro, by Kenn
Thomas and Jim Keith, is one of several books to emerge recently which
detail how the Reagan Justice Department stole PROMIS, a law enforcement
software, from the firm INSLAW, and modified it to co

Re: [CTRL] Waco, Vince Foster, and the Secret War 1/2

[Mack White]

 -Caveat Lector-

Waco, Vince Foster, and the Secret War 1/2
Copyright 1999 Mack White

An after-thought:  Recently, Rumor Mill News reported that the past few
weeks' revelations with regard to Waco (evidence of the FBI's firing of
incendiary devices, involvement of Delta Force, etc.) in the mainstream
media were the result of factional fighting at the highest levels of power.
According to this theory, the Bush family has been moving away from the New
World Order faction. Allegations with regard to Gov. George W. Bush's
cocaine usage are supposedly pressure tactics to bring the Bush family back
into the New World Order fold. However, Bush's counter-move has been to
reveal information on Waco, which would be damaging to the Clinton/New
World Order faction. This is an interesting possiblity, which, if true,
would seem to corroborate the theory in my article that Waco represented
the surface eruption of a covert civil war. It will be interesting to see
what develops in the weeks ahead.

Mack White

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Re: [CTRL] THE FINDERS : Mind Control and Children

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A recent issue of Steamshovel Press had an article on The Finders.  The
background information on founder Pettie was especially interesting, as it
detailed his involvement in a number of activities over the years.  One of
these was the alleged "setting up" of Ken Kesey as a countercultural
"guru."

Mack White

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Peace?

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Sasa Rakezic
P.F. 163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia (Serbia)
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June 10th 1999

Hello!
It finally happened!!!
Yesterday, all the media in Yugoslavia were speaking about the peace
agreement that was signed by Serbian and NATO generals.
It was announced with a lot of triumphalism, like - "We won!". Serbian
media even lied that it were the UN representatives who were negotiating
with Serbian Army officials, while trying to avoid mentioning NATO as the
real partner in these talks... The same kind of logic (newspaper headlines
like "Serbia capitulated!") was, as I understood from the letters by
friends from abroad, present in the mainstream media of the NATO countries.
They were opening champagne at the NATO headquarters in Brussels. After so
many ( whatever the real number is) thousands of dead and injured and
people left homeless?
Yes, yes, it was so predictable. I told you that it will happen, in one of
the early messages - politicians will continue to do their "job", they will
make speeches, pose in front of the camera, or at worst go to a new duty -
no matter what is the result of their fabulous "action". They are the
"winners" - Serbian, Albanian, NATO countries leaders, and the busy little
administration workers. These guys always win. Everybody else is wounded or
dead.
Anyway, this is the last of my mass letters, if something don't go wrong
again.
Yesterday, the "celebration" started with the people from the neighborhood
taking their pistols and shooting in the air.They were joined by rockets
launched by the Antiaircraft Defenses,  even though at first I thought that
they were shooting at the pilotless NATO aircrafts (equipped with the
cameras), as they usually do when they are shooting between  the air raids.
I just couldn't believe that they would waste the  rockets that they
actually missed while combating the mighty NATO bombers...
Sure, everybody was happy that the whole thing was over... Even though many
were complaining, and many more were aware that this is far from being the
end of the crisis - ANYTHING could happen in the months to come.
The "victory" celebration in my town was ridiculed by the tall flame from
the Oil Refinery, and the giant black cloud which was spreading over the
whole area The industrial complex is still burning, even now as I write
this, 3 days after the NATO bombing.
But still, I can understand the triumph of the common people, who were
exposed to the very powerful bombs for 77 days. They are the real heroes!
The same is with the common Albanians, who suffered enormously in this big
turmoil. Serbia will be the country which will enter the 21st Century with
the destroyed factories, bridges, railroads and highways.
No matter of the high ideals of our world, the global society is still
obsessed with deeply destructive and violent concepts.  Isn't it obvious
yet?
See you around, my friends.
Sasa

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[CTRL] Military Helicopters Terrorize Las Vegas

[Mack White]

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Tuesday, June 08, 1999
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

Helicopters give residents scare

Air Force officials cannot say why a night exercise
would have brought four aircraft roaring over town.

By Keith Rogers
Review-Journal

Air Force officials could not explain why four military helicopters on a
special exercise late Sunday night at the Tonopah Test Range thundered over
Goldfield, terrifying residents and sending dust flying at the town's
airstrip, where one of the craft touched down.

"We don't know why they were hanging around Goldfield," said Nellis Air
Force Base spokesman Mike Estrada about the mysterious flights that
occurred about 9:15 and 10:15 Sunday night on the outskirts of the Tonopah
Test Range.

The test range is the northern section of the 3-million-acre Nellis Air
Force Range.

Residents in the Esmeralda County community of 450, which has one blinking
traffic signal and is 186 miles northwest of Las Vegas, were rudely
awakened by the ruckus.

"Those guys scared the hell out of this town last night," Justice of the
Peace Juanita Colvin said Monday.

Another resident, Virginia Ridgway, who lives in the middle of town, one
block south of U.S. Highway 95, said she thought "it was an airliner coming
down.

"It was so loud. It was right over the house, and then I thought a
helicopter was going to crash on the house. It sounded like something big
and heavy and loud. I thought, 'Oh well, I'm 66. That's it,' " she said.

For Ridgway, being buzzed by helicopters was yet another encounter with
government aircraft, from jets that seemed as if they were going to fly
into her car's tailpipe as she was driving down the road to an off-course
rocket that was launched from the Nevada Test Site in October 1997.

The 34-foot-long, $2 million Sandia National Laboratories experimental
rocket "went right over the house," she said, before it crashed and burned
on public lands about 10 miles from Goldfield.

"They should be staying the hell on the range and leaving us alone,"
Ridgway said. "They've got more land than they need out there. They don't
need to be scaring citizens in the middle of the night."

Estrada described the craft involved in Sunday night's incident as
dual-rotor CH-47 Chinook cargo-transport helicopters. He said they were
probably Army or Marine craft connected to the Air Force Special  Operation
Command, a multi-service organization based in Hurlburt, Fla. "They could
have been from anywhere," he said.

He said that Tonopah Test Range officials "knew helicopters were coming to
take part in a special exercise."

Asked if the helicopters were off course, he said: "It's extremely unlikely
because of the modern navigation systems on board. Until we know why they
were in the Goldfield area, we really can't say anything else.

"We're still trying to determine who they are," Estrada said. Howard
Vaughn, a Federal Aviation Administration flight standards manager in Las
Vegas, said the helicopter pilots may have violated a regulation that
prohibits them from operating at altitudes that would be a hazard to people
or property.

Grace Potorti, director of the Rural Alliance for Military Accountability,
criticized military officials for conducting a late-night exercise over
Goldfield residents when the unpopulated range is designated for that
purpose.

"It just gives me shivers to think about the fact that these people woke up
wondering if they were in a war zone," she said.

Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal, 1997, 1998, 1999

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Bomb in the backyard

[Mack White]

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June 9th 1999

Hello to all!
After last night bombing of Oil Refinery in Pancevo, our part of town is
full of small  soot-like sheets that lie on the ground - I heard that it
could be remains of the paint from the  oil tanks that were bombed. When
you pick up these little black sheets from the ground, they are usually
just falling apart. Last night, at the top of our building, somebody saw
something that looked like a big block of unknown shiny black material ,
hovering above the 8 store building. It seems that materials from the Oil
Refinery were launched for kilometers around !
One of the cameramen, who was present at the site just 15 minutes after the
strike,  told our friend that the giant flame in Oil Refinery has been
sucking up a big quantity of oxygen , so that he felt that he was attracted
by the fire in a most unusual way, and that any minute he could be pushed
inside it. He compared that experience  to "being  swallowed by a
whirlwind".
This morning  when I went outside it seemed to me at first that it was a
cloudy weather that was hiding the sun on the horizon. It took me few
moments to realize that what was spreading on the sky above was in fact an
enormous black cloud, coming out of the Oil Refinery... Last time during
the similar NATO action against the same plant in Pancevo, the big cloud
has traveled 1000's of kilometers away from Serbia, reaching as far as
Scandinavia !...  One of the "specialties" of the previous Oil Refinery
bombing was a "black rain" that fell on Pancevo,  and it is possible that
same thing will happen today as well.
I heard on the news that two of the NATO projectiles that fell on Belgrade
last night haven't actually exploded. One of the projectiles that fell in a
part of town called Kotez has crashed through the roof of a private house,
and landed in a backyard unexploded.
The similar incident occurred ten days ago, when  the NATO projectile hit a
house not so far away from the center of Belgrade, while the mother and her
son were inside, and they were not hurt by some miracle, even though the
living room was completely destroyed... The bomb, unexploded, eventually
landed in the backyard, eight meters under the ground! Specialists are
still trying to dismantle it, without much success, because of the very
difficult position of the projectile. For 10 days, the whole neighborhood
is living with the knowledge that the bomb is still with them, a few dozen
meters away from their homes Who would even think that things like that
could happen.
See you soon
Sasa

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[CTRL] Hyde Introduces Bill to Criminalize Sale of Violent Media to Minors

[Mack White]

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HYDE INTRODUCES BILL TO CRIMINALIZE SALE OF VIOLENT MEDIA TO MINORS!

June 9: The WALL STREET JOURNAL reported today that the House Judiciary
Committee Chairman, Henry Hyde, introduced legislation on Tuesday that
would "outlaw the sale of obscenely violent movies, video games and books
to children. The Illinois Republican wants to put retailers in charge of
enforcing the ban, with the threat of jail terms for those who fail to
comply."

The JOURNAL said that Mr. Hyde's proposal would ban the sale to children
under 17 of materials containing "the kind of violence that appeals to the
prurient, morbid or shameful interest of children, without social redeeming
value for children." The JOURNAL also said, "Congress has debated the issue
of media violence as far back as 1954, when Sen. Estes Kefauver chaired
hearings on whether comic books contribute to juvenile delinquency. But
until now, there has never been a serious attempt to create legislation."
While the bill's language does not mention comics specifically, any
legislation that is aimed at regulating book sales would no doubt impact
the comic book markets as well. It was unclear this morning whether the
proposals were part of the House version of the Juvenile-Justice bill that
passed the Senate in the wake of the Littleton massacre last month. The NEW
YORK TIMES reported that Hyde's proposal "will apparently come to the House
floor as its own amendment."

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[CTRL] Clinton's Blood Trail Clean-Up: Arkansas Clinic Firebombed

[Mack White]

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Tuesday June 8, 1999

FROM THE OTTAWA CITIZEN
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Tainted-blood sleuth firebombed

Intimidation campaign suspected as Arkansas clinic razed, Montreal office
ransacked

Mark Kennedy
The Ottawa Citizen

The controversial story involving tainted plasma from Arkansas prisoners
that was shipped to Canada in the 1980s while Bill Clinton was state
governor has taken a mysterious and chilling new turn.

Two crimes that occurred within hours of each other Tuesday night, hundreds
of kilometres apart, have raised questions about whether someone is trying
to intimidate or silence those who are asking questions about the
prison-blood fiasco.

In Pine Bluff, Arkansas, someone firebombed a prosthetics clinic owned by
Michael Galster, who has been pushing hard for a U.S. government
investigation. The clinic was burned to its shell and fire officials, who
found a gas container in Mr. Galster's attic -- where he kept his documents
-- say they're "90-per-cent sure" the fire was arson.

In Montreal, someone broke into the offices of the Quebec chapter of the
Canadian Hemophilia Society, which recently unearthed documents that showed
Finance Minister Paul Martin was a board member of the corporation that
owned Connaught Laboratories, the company that fractionated and distributed
the Arkansas prison plasma in Canada.

Hemophilia Society officials say thieves stole a computer and three
telephones. They also stole documents from a box labeled "Hepatitis C,
Krever Commission, Reform of the blood system, HIV-AIDS."

Police are investigating both incidents.

Mike McCarthy, a Canadian hemophiliac at the forefront of pushing for
answers into the prison plasma scandal, says he's convinced the two crimes
are connected.

"It's too much of a coincidence," he said, adding that someone is worried
Mr. Galster and the victims are probing too close to the truth.

"They're trying to find out what we know and erase the trail if they can."

"I think they're also sending a message. They're trying to scare us into
backing off. They're trying to put the fear of God into us, that if we
pursue the truth it can get worse. That the next action might not just be
buildings and records."

The RCMP are examining the prison-blood scheme as part of their criminal
investigation into the tainted-blood scandal. RCMP Cpl. Gilles Moreau said
yesterday that the Mounties are willing to review any evidence local police
in Montreal and Arkansas uncover.

"We do not work in a vacuum," said Cpl. Moreau. "If there's information
that is linked to the blood distribution system for the period that we're
investigating, we're certainly not going to close our eyes to that
information. We welcome any information that comes our way."

The story of how prison plasma was collected and found its way into the
bloodstreams of unsuspecting Canadians stands as one of the most shocking
aspects of the tainted-blood tragedy.

It's not known how many Canadians contracted HIV and hepatitis C from the
plasma of Arkansas prisoners, who were paid $7 a unit, although it's likely
that several hundred people were infected by the tainted products.

At the time, U.S. companies that fractionate blood products had stopped
buying prison blood because it was widely understood that, since many
inmates practised unsafe sex or were intravenous drug addicts, their blood
posed a high risk of carrying the AIDS virus.

In Arkansas, a private firm, Health Management Associates, was given a
contract by the state government to collect the prisoners' plasma. The firm
had difficulty locating a U.S. customer but found a willing buyer in a
Montreal blood broker, Continental Pharma Cryosan, which then sold the
plasma to Toronto-based Connaught Laboratories. Connaught apparently didn't
realize the plasma had come from prisoners.

Canadians learned of the prison plasma scheme in 1995, when Justice Horace
Krever's inquiry unearthed some aspects of the story. Last September, the
Citizen revealed further details.

Also last fall, Mr. Galster went public with his accusations about the
Arkansas prison system, where he conducted orthopedic clinics during the
1980s. Mr. Galster published a book, Blood Trail, which is a fictionalized
account of how the prison-plasma program worked.

He wrote under a pseudonym because he feared reprisals. Soon after media
stories began appearing, he revealed his true identity. In February, he
organized and participated in a news conference in Washington where
Canadian victims called for a probe by the U.S. Justice Department and
announced plans to depose Mr. Clinton.

Mr. Galster said yesterday he is reeling with shock from the firebombing of
his clinic, which he has owned for 21 years.

He said he worked until about 8:30 p.m. Tuesday and was later called at
home about the fire.

"I'm trying not to get too paranoid about it. I pray to God that it was
just a coincidence."

Mr. Galster said that if someone is trying to silence him, it won't work.

[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Coo Coo!

[Mack White]

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From: "Sasa Rakezic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Coo Coo!
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June 7th 1999

Hello!
Yes, this is all insane - the proposed deal between NATO and Serbian
generals has fallen through this morning, after Serbian generals rejected
the NATO plan, proposed to them in ultimatum-like manner... During the days
and hours while the peace is postponed, many soldiers and civilians will
die, and the refugees will sit helplessly in the tents far away from home.
Today, we were receiving the contradictory informations: yes, plan is going
to be  accepted sometime soon! No, it will not! This official from Serbian
side said that. That NATO general said something else. And so on...
In the meantime, NATO declared this morning that they will continue and
intensify their bombing campaign, and until afternoon several people were
killed, and many more  were injured today , after what seemed to be a pause
in bombing.
The whole stupid war may go on forever, and even if it stops tomorrow, it
will not be the end of troubles for the people living in this country...
Just as I was writing this message, around midnight, NATO stroked Pancevo
again, and several very heavy bombs fell on Oil Refinery... The sound of
the donation was mixed with the sound of the breaking glass. We spoke to a
woman from the flat bellow us, and she said that their lamp in the hall has
been broken to pieces. The cracking sounds were heard all over
neighborhood.
There were several more strikes, and loud explosions, and we were able to
see projectiles falling on suburban parts of Belgrade as well - at least
two projectiles, eerily, slowly hovering above the ground, were hit by
Antiaircraft Defenses. It was like a battle in the sky... Strangely, the
strikes were followed by a sudden stormy wind, which seemed to be waken by
all the hassle in the sky.
Gordana and I went at the top of our apartment building, where there was
our neighbor who is a TV cameraman, and beside the camera he was equipped
with a pocket radio station, so we were able to listen to the informations
about the direction of the moving of the NATO aircrafts, about the missiles
destroyed by Antiaircraft Defenses, about the targets hit by NATO
strikes... just while it was happening, all over Serbia. From time to time,
these reports were interrupted by a high-pitched voice of a guy from the
neighboring Croatia, who would toss in the comments like: " You are so
stupid...You must have been  Serbs, aren't you?" and "Coo-Coo! NATO is
coming to Tomahawk you!". Everybody calls that guy "Coo Coo", and he breaks
in the Serbian amateur radio broadcasts every night, with his sarcastic
comments. He became some sort of the "mascot" of this war.
All the while, the Oil Refinery was burning, there were four or five
separate flames bursting, and the giant smoke raised again over the town.
Pieces of soot were falling all over the place, and we were wondering what
happened with our hopes for peace.
Regards
Sasa

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[CTRL] FWD: Blame the books!

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I probably wouldn't notice them apart but these three clippings all came in
the same issue of DarkEcho Newsletter. No mention of comics, yet:

According to States News Service, reporting on Fri, May 28, STEPHEN KING told
a crowd of 700 that writers need to examine the impact of their work on
society. King was a guest speaker at the Vermont Library Association's annual
meeting in Killington, VT. The author said recent incidents, such as the
shootings at Columbine High School, have moved him to look inward and examine
the effect of his books...including three that have dealt with high school
violence. While not condoning censorship, King says he has asked his
publisher to pull one of his books, written under his Richard Bachman
pseudonym, off the shelves. [Editorial Note: I have yet to track this story
further, but one assumes that the book mentioned as being pulled may be RAGE.]

What an ill-informed, naive fool Mr. King is.  If only he had known the
real reasons behind the Littleton
massacre, he would not have abdicated his own First Amendment rights.

Apparently for the first time in American publishing history a publisher has
been held liable for a crime committed by a reader. According to Publishers
Weekly Daily, PALADIN PRESS, publisher of the controversial murder how-to
manual HIT MAN, has agreed to pay a reported  $5 million to end a
six-year-old suit in which the house was charged with aiding and abetting
murder. The press will also cease publication of the book. Paladin blamed its
insurance company for declining to risk a jury trial scheduled to begin this
week as settling would be less expensive than the cost of the trial and
subsequent appeals. A statement from the publisher expressed disappointment
with the development and said, in part, "Paladin had no say in the insurance
company's decision and, as we were dependent upon the insurance carrier's
financial support, we of necessity had to go along." Legal experts fear that
Paladin's decision to settle the case will lead to more lawsuits citing books
with similar information. The Associated Press quoted Wendy S. Myers,
presdent of the 13,500-member Society of Professional Journalists which had
filed a court brief in support of Paladin Press, as saying the suit threatens
the right of free speech, but that the timing for the suit is difficult given
the Littleton, CO shootings.

To understand the reasons for Littleton, one need only observe its
political effects:  further erosion of the 1st and 2nd amendments.  And,
yes, they'll get around to comics--although I don't know why they'd bother,
considering how the industry has been ghettoized and marginalized into
irrelevancy (probably on purpose).  Who reads the damned things anymore?
Orders for good comic books now typically measure in the hundreds.  It is
almost not worth the effort, or expense, to produce them.  It is certainly
not worth the risk on the part of retailers to sell them, not when they can
be busted for "obscenity" as in the Planet Comics case.  And now, in light
of the above legal decision, publishers can be successfully sued if some
maniac gets an idea from reading the book.  Of course, DC Comics (owned by
media conglomerate Time Warner) won't have to worry; it's only the small,
independent publisher that is threatened with extinction.

[From Variety and AP sources:] President Clinton has directed the Federal
Trade Commission and the Justice Dept. to investigate the MARKETING PRACTICES
OF THE FILM, RECORDING AND VIDEOGAME INDUSTRIES. Investigators will have the
power to subpoena internal documents at movie studios, as well as recorded
music and videogame companies. The inquiry is expected to last 12-18 months.
The goal the inquiry is to determine if there is any evidence that the
entertainment industry is marketing violent products, especially those rated
for adult content, to children. Entertainment industry representatives were
angered that the president decided to move forward with the investigation
before the House had a chance to vote on a proposal passed by the Senate that
addresses youth violence. The Senate last month passed a juvenile crime bill
that included sweeping gun restrictions and several proposals aimed at the
entertainment industry. Included in the legislation is a proposal calling for
a joint FTC-Justice Dept. investigation of the entertainment industry's
marketing practices. The gun industry is not included in Clinton's directive
is a sore point for entertainment industry lobbyists. Recording Industry
Assn. of America president and CEO said it seemed unfair for Clinton to chart
this course after cl

[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Poison Ivy

[Mack White]

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From: "Sasa Rakezic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Poison ivy
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:13:37 +0200
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Sasa Rakezic
P.F. 163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia (Serbia)
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May 29th 1999

Hello!
The other day we met Zoran Jovic-Djavo, a drummer in a band called NUP, and
an author of several mini comics ( working under the pseudonym of Letac).
He was drafted, and is settled with the Antiaircraft Defenses in the farms
near his native village. He gave me a funny souvenir - - a piece of one of
the bombs that fell near the village. Djavo said that one of the officers
noticed that he was searching through the remains of the bomb. "What do you
looking for ?" - asked the officer. "I would like to have a little
souvenir",said Djavo. "The most interesting part is the wing. If you want,
take it. But be careful, they said that some of the bombs are
radio-active". The officer even helped to dismantle the "wings". But soon
Djavo's wrist became red, and he started to scratch...Was it because of the
radioactivity!? He rushed to the officer in panic, and showed him his wrist
all red, and the officer started to shout:"Don't come any closer!!! You are
CONTAMINATED"!!!
But just a minute later, he started to laugh, and explained that it was a
trick: the officer has scratched Djavo's wrist with the poison ivy!
A military humor.
While speaking to Djavo about his experiences, one of the most eerie
moments that he remembered was when the NATO aircraft on one occasion has
lightened everything beneath , in order to spot the target. The night
landscape was lightened so suddenly and from a very powerful source of
light, and it was almost as shocking as the bombing itself.
Another friend, Damir Smit, who is running a comics workshop in Subotica,
is the only male person that we know who succeeded to go out of the country
during the war... After a lot of efforts, he was given permission from the
Army Headquarters to go to Slovenia and take part in the Art Festival,
called Break 21. While on his way home, Damir stayed in Hungary for a few
days. "Budapest is full of people who are speaking Serbian" - he said. "It
is only the latest of many waves of war immigrants from Serbia, mostly
young people trying to avoid draft"...
I was also informed that Triceps, one of the most famous alternative
artists in Budapest, has set an exhibition in his underground gallery, with
enlarged pages of my "Life Under Sanctions" strip, placed behind the
ancient bars in the basement ambient... I saw the photos, it looks very
interesting.
Wish that I was able to go to Budapest and chat with Triceps...We are all
the prisoners of the situation here.
See you soon
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: No Compromises?

[Mack White]

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From: "Sasa Rakezic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: No compromises?
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 00:11:23 +0200
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May 27th 1999

Hello to all!
After the snail mail from abroad stopped being delivered to Serbia, I
almost stopped visiting a post office to check out my p.o. box. And when I
finally went there to check it out, it turned out that a book, ordered
before
this madness began, has somehow succeeded to get through! I ordered it
from Bud Plant's catalogue, and it is a handsome "MAD about the Fifties"
volume, with all the classical strips from the early Mad magazine. Hooray!
A new book on my table. Can't believe it! All those genuine concepts by H.
Kurtzman! Glorious stuff by Elder, Wolverton, Wood, Davis and all the
others American satire from the 50's was so sharp, so beautifully
executed. We should all learn from it, for many years to come. It is a
great literature to read under the light of the candle during the
black-outs

May 28th 1999

Yesterday, the power went off shortly after the booming sound of the bomber
plane was heard over our neighborhood. NATO has destroyed some of the
important power plants near Belgrade. The power comes off and on again,
every now and then.
Few hours ago, NATO have bombed a garbage dump  near Pristina, with four
projectiles. Whatever the real target was, you can add the garbage dump to
the list of the bombed places and objects in Serbia.
Of course, everybody here is talking about Milosevic being indicted for war
crimes...Just in the moment when some agreement for the halt of the
military action in Kosovo was about to be settled through the diplomacy,
lead by Russians!...It seems that NATO, which has a very strong influence
on the policy of the War Crimes Tribunal in Hague, simply does not want to
appear as ready to make any compromises, and is more eager to continue with
the pressure against the "enemy". Is it even more important than to stop
the suffering of both Albanian and Serbian civil population?
I've been discussing these things with Donna Barr, who is able to very
sharply analyze and understand the military logic, as you can see from her
well-researched comics set inside the WW2 milieu.

"There is a lot of media talk about Milosevic "cracking." , said Donna.
"This is American media-talk for "He is willing to negotiate."
In the American culture, there are only complete winners or complete
losers; one is not allowed to compromise.  It is a sign of "weakness."
Many of our people suffer from stress-illness because they cannot "win
completely" all the time.
And do you know what the British said?  That Milosovic has "back up
generators," and if "he" is choosing to use "his" generators for the
military instead of the hospitals, then it's "his" headache.
You are no longer a country to NATO -- you are one person.  YOU are all to
be treated as that one person.
And repeatedly we see oil refineries burning.  This is an OIL question
again".

Speaking of compromises, it is something quite unpopular within a military
logic in just any country... There is a joke, that I heard here in Serbia,
about Milosevic writing a letter to Clinton:
" Dear Bill, we can't take it any more. It's about time for you to
surrender"

That's all for now,
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Black Out Blues

[Mack White]

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Sasa Rakezic
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May 25th 1999

 Hello !

Past few days, troubles with the black outs were the things that most of
the people here were talking about. After the use of special , brand new
bombs
with carbon filaments, NATO has been day after day destroying the basic
infrastructure (with "old fashioned" bombs) used in the production and
distribution of power in Serbia - power plants, transformer stations, etc.
As many of you probably never experienced major black outs, maybe it's good
to describe how does it look like, actually... First of all, most of the
people do not have a water during the black outs, as the pumps can not
distribute the water. And even when the aggregates are being used, the
people living in the upper floors of the apartment buildings (like Gordana
and I do) are left without water.
Also, freezer food supplies are being spoiled, and have to be thrown in the
dump, in the midst of the crisis. Many people in Belgrade are donating the
food which is not edible any more ( for the humans, at least) to the local
zoo.
Not to mention the problem of hospitals, bakeries, factories, or plain
families with new born babies, being cut off from power . Can you imagine
what is it alike when somebody who's living in a  tall building DIES during
the black outs? (Yes, it happens).
Spending many hours in dark, every night, while the aircrafts are bombing
your town, it's a kind of creepy experience.
 They don't even have to switch out Serbia from the internet, as the
internet connections in this situation are becoming more and more
disrupted. ( By the way, if you E-mailed me and the message bounced, please
be patient, and send it again !!!)
The funny thing is that if you leave almost entire country in the dark, it
simply does not sound as awful, as killing people with the bombs, so that
destruction of the power network will never cause the big sensation in the
Western media, even though  it is a measure which hurts millions of people.

" The covers of all the magazines here have pictures of the "Star Wars"
movie -- no mentions of Yugoslavia", wrote Chris Ware, in his most recent
letter." I wish I could say "the world's gone nuts" but I think that it's
always been this way; it's just an endless variation on a theme and we're
simply artists who are silly enough to think that things should be
different" ...
See you
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: A Black Void

[Mack White]

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Sasa Rakezic
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May 21st 1999

Hello!

Today there were many detonations coming from different directions... It's
always bizarre when you hear the bombs exploding during a nice and sunny
day (even though the storm was raging in the evening). I saw the dogs down
the street standing still, taking curious positions and looking at the
direction of the NATO aircraft roar. I don't recall that they were so
sensitive to the sound of the airplanes before the bombing campaign began.
 Today, even Banatski Brestovac, a village where Gordana goes to work, was
added to the list of targeted areas! This almost sounds like a joke.
Gordana was at the fruit tree plantation at work, when the detonation shook
the ground - NATO has thrown a bomb in the fields where the Antiaircraft
Defenses were positioned (we don't even know if somebody was injured, as
the military do not provide the informations about the Army casualties).
There were reports today about the renewed NATO bombings of the complex of
buildings where the prison in Istok, in Kosovo, was placed. This time the
shelling was even more intense! At least 20 NATO  projectiles were fired,
which is a frightening number... And just as scary is the number of about
20 people killed, both prisoners and guards! When the strike was done,
domestic and foreign journalists have visited the place, but shortly after
they went away, there was another strike and prison was bombed again!!!
(They just said on the radio that - from the morning until the evening,
this target was stroked six times!!). I can't figure out the reasons behind
this drastic action at the moment, and I wonder if the reports will capture
the drama which must have been happening there
Among the more bizarre targets there was a radio transmitter and a
meteorological station in Subotica, bombed the other day... It was stupid
that NATO has destroyed the transmitter, as it belongs to a local station
Radio Subotica, which was always opposed to the state's radio propaganda.
Or are they bombing just ANY transmitter they spot? And how about the
meteorological station, more than 100 years old?! Were they producing tanks
there?! This all looks like NATO do not have much targets left after  8
weeks of bombing of this poor and exhausted country, and now they bomb
just...anything.
Yes, it's 8 weeks of bombing already, and one of the things that I miss is
the good old snail mail, and books and letters in my mail box. Thank god we
still got some other means of communication left, like internet,
or...dreams. Plus I can express myself through my "cartoon" self in my
comics, and that is definitely some sort of communication as well. Here's a
letter from my friend Gaian from Italy:

"Last week I dreamt I was sleeping in my bed, in Bari, and I heard deep and
low
noises out of the window. I opened the window, and I saw reddish lights at
the horizon. Actually, I can see the sea from the window of my room, and on
sunny days, when the sky is clear, it is possible to see the coasts of
Albania even without field-glasses. In my dream the landscape was the same,
but the strip of land was not Albania, I don't know what it was. When I saw
these lights at the horizon, I said: "Sasha, what is happening?"
And then Sasha: "Why did you call me?"
Sasha was actually in my room with me, in person, but he was his comics
character; I saw his drawing of himself, but I was not surprised by this
sight, it was all perfectly normal to me. Then the rest of the dialogue:
G: "I did not call you, you were here."
S: "I was dreaming, and you called me here."
G: "Maybe  I'm dreaming, too. Look, I don't wear a pajama when I sleep, and
now I have one, and it's so ugly!"
S: "Perhaps I called you here. Look, I am a cartoon."
G: "No, Sasha, you look pretty fine, as usual."
S: "Yes, but I must come back home now."
G: "And how shell we do that? You are the dream-travels expert.."
S: "Don't know. Try to erase me, or to keep off that pajama."
G: "Mmmmh, I'll try the first one."
And then I made a gesture with my hand, like if I were de-misting a glass.
I
woke up. Pretty mystic, isn't it?"

Funniest thing of all, I haven't had much interesting dreams since the war
started... I feel pretty vacant, and all that I can see in my dreams is a
big black voidI know it's too negative, but I wonder if this
phantasmagoric war reality is disturbing my ability to concentrate on
dream experiences...
Good night
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: 64 People in One House

[Mack White]

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Sasa Rakezic
P.F. 163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia (Serbia)
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May 24th 1999

Hello !
The reason why I haven't written before, or why your messages sent to me
probably bounced, is because the power plants in Serbia were exposed to
NATO bombings - they were using both "soft" and old fashioned "heavy"
bombs, and we spent past few days mostly in the dark, and during the times
when the power came up again, it wasn't possible to connect to internet

I should say that I made a mistake in my last letter, as it turned out that
the bomb that fell in the fields near Banatski Brestovac was not dropped on
the Antiaircraft Defenses, as I guessed. I saw a report about the local
tractor drivers who watched, appalled, as an aircraft has been dropping a
bomb in a soybean plant, couple of hundreds of meters away.   It seems that
it was one of the bombs which, for some reason,  were not used against the
planned target, and the NATO planes - unable to land with bombs still
attached to them - have to kick them out somewhere. A lot of the bombs
were, therefore, dropped in the Adriatic sea near Italy, Croatia and
(probably) Monte Negro, and in the fields of Macedonia, etc. Once that they
start throwing bombs, there is just no end to incidents like this, bombs
are everywhere.
The other day we visited some friends in a village near Pancevo - they told
us that during the crisis connected to NATO bombings of the industrial zone
of the town, almost all of the houses in a village were full of city people
who were trying to escape to the countryside. They spoke about their
friends who gave a shelter to the members of their  numerous family, so
that at one point there were 64 people in their humble home!!! It was too
crowded to sleep on the beds and chairs and on the floor, so mostly they
would just sit and talk throughout the night, and sleep for a few hours
during the day. When they became tired of it all,  they decided that
grown-ups should better leave and find a shelter with some other relatives,
so that there will be more space left for the children. So the house ended
up with "only" 30  kids dwelling it!!!
They said that at least 1 million people in Serbia were forced to leave
their homes, permanently or for a time beingFor a population of 10
million people, that is quite a lot.
OK, I got to try to send this while we still have the power.
Until soon
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Down on Earth

[Mack White]

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From: "Sasa Rakezic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sasa Rakezic
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May 20th 1999

Hello to all!
Yesterday, shortly before his visit to Serbia, Russia's official Victor
Chernomidin said that he is coming to Belgrade to settle down negotiations,
even though his government have the informations that various points of the
city will be bombed by NATO  the same evening. Shortly after his plane went
back to Russia, there was a series of detonations  coming from the
direction of Belgrade. I was able to see a very intense activity of the
Antiaircraft Defenses, as well, and even the eerie flight of cruising
missiles. All kind of detonations were audible for hours, and - for the
first time, I even saw what I think was the launching of the projectile
from the aircraft positioned somewhere up there in the sky
Among the results of the last night attacks was another case of NATO
projectile missing its target ( as later admitted by NATO officials) and
hit
the Hospital in a part of the town called Topcider!...  Direct hit ruined
the "intensive care" ward at the Neurology Center, killing three patients,
and injuring more of them, as well as some medical workers... In one the
wards, an operation was still going on  when the projectile hit the
building. Bloody sheets and smashed medical equipment all over the place,
an urgent evacuation going on immediately after the bombing... A drama
went on.
All over Serbia, most of the patients who were not seriously ill were
already sent to their homes, which means that those who were still left in
the Hospitals really needed a medical care...
Tonight, few hours ago,  NATO  has bombed a fuel tank in Belgrade. After
detonation, a glass broke at the windows of the near-by Residency of Swiss
Embassy, where there was a meeting held, in honor of its country's
Independence Day. One of the officials invited was the Swedish Ambassador.
Ironically, it was a Swedish Embassy that was damaged yesterday, during the
bombing of the Hospital in Topcider.
Today, I spoke to a friend about the pilots of the aircrafts that are sent
to bomb our land... It really must be a hard job... I guess that every
land, viewed from the air, looks beautiful, and the pilots have to drop
bombs, right on the towns and people bellow, and risk their lives for some
reason that is more or less abstract to themIn a way, they are the
victims of this war, just like those tiny little people  down on earth.
See you
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Dreams, prisons and graveyards

[Mack White]

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From: "Sasa Rakezic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Dreams, prisons and graveyards
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Sasa Rakezic
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May 19 1999
Hello!
Hey, I'm glad that I keep on visiting my friends cartoonists in their
dreams. Rick Veitch told me about his dream of me being happy because I got
some grant, and it was true, in reality, to my own surprise, just a few
days before Rick dreamt this, I was informed that my grant for a trip to
Seattle was accepted, and I'll go there for 6 weeks if the war stops until
October !...
Today I received a letter from Mack White, here's an excerpt from it:

"In your report this morning you described Bob's dream.  Considering your
interest in dreams, I thought you'd be interested in one I had last night.
You were in it:

I dreamed I traveled to Serbia.  The reason was because the Internet had
been shut down and I needed to contact you.  Someone was guiding me through
a neighborhood to your home.  For some reason we had to wait on a street
corner for you to meet us.  It was night and there was a weird red glow to
everything.

While standing there, I took a walk down a river, or canal, which was full
of refugees on rafts.  All the refugees were carrying large plastic bottles
of Coca-Cola.  I remember thinking, "I should follow their example and
stock up on Coke for Y2K."

I had wandered a bit far.  So I headed back to the rendezvous point.

While we were waiting, an old man on a bicycle stopped to talk to my guide.
Then a car appeared, and both of them ran off and hid.  I was too slow, so
didn't hide.  I thought, "I need to pay better attention to what's
happening around me, or I'll get killed."

The car passed.  Inside were some men who fixed me in a menacing stare.  I
waited for them to start shooting, but they didn't.  They just drove on
past.

My guide reappeared from his hiding place.  The wait continued.  I went
into a store and found copies of XL on sale.  Inside was your comic strip.
I bought three, intending to give one to you.

Then I went back to the street corner.  About that time you appeared.  You
and I shook hands.  You said you had some changes in the intro I had
written  (?!).  Then we headed back to your home, which was a big  building
crowded with people.   Everyone was tense.

You were busy doing something (setting up some musical instruments for a
performance of some kind), but I insisted you stop for a moment so I could
show you the newspaper which had your comic strip in it.  When I picked up
the stack of newspapers, they turned into sleeping bags.  They were black.

I woke up.  My girlfriend woke up at the same time, oddly.  I told her
about the dream.  "I'm worried," I said.  "I think this is going to turn
into a ground war."

The reason I said that was because, thinking about the black sleeping bags
in the dream, I remembered a  report that was circulating several weeks ago
that NATO had ordered several thousand body bags sent to their base of
operations.  Apparently, they have been anticipating a ground war from the
start.  So, that was the immediate association I made when I remembered the
sleeping bags in the dream.  A ground war".

Mack's dream reminded me of many talks that I had with friends here, who
were all concerned about the possibility of the ground war, despite the
efforts past few days to end this crisis in diplomatic way (diplomacy
mostly comes to late). Serbian soldiers in Kosovo were probably having the
similar thoughts on their mind while reading the NATO leaflets - one of the
pamphlets shows an Apache helicopter attacking a Serbian tank, with the
warning: DON'T WAIT FOR ME!
Today, a bizarre thing happened in a place called Istok, in Kosovo: NATO
has bombed a local prison! Three projectiles hit prison cells and the
central building, two prisoners were killed, one guard and some more
prisoners were injured.
But what is bizarre any more? In early April, NATO projectiles fell on  the
Serbian Orthodox Christian graveyard in  Kosovo's capital. Reporters were
astonished to see not only the tombstones demolished, but also coffins and
human bones showing up from the 10 meters wide crater

Regards
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Question from a dream

[Mack White]

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From: "Sasa Rakezic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Question from a dream
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:04:09 +0200
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Sasa Rakezic
P.F. 163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia (Serbia)
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May 18th 1999

Hello!
Today I received a letter by Bob Kathman, from Baltimore, with whom I
co-edited "Flock of Dreamers", an international anthology of dream-inspired
comics, published last year by Kitchen Sink Press. I've been discussing
dreams and comics with Bob for years. Here's the description of his most
recent dream:

"I dreamt last night I was in Belgrade and I was travelling through in a
car with some people. I had a dread of bombing even though the streets were
quiet. I thought "It seems safe but here I am and who knows...a bomb could
fall at any time and since they are bombing the city, I could be in the
way. I wonder if everyone thinks like this before actually being bombed?"

I was thinking about Bob's question from a dream. What people actually
think before or during the bombing? The only person that I met who was near
the immediate place where the bomb fell,  was Gordana's friend, a woman who
was at her workplace during the bombing of Petrochemical plant in Pancevo.
The whole working process was already switched to automatic handling, so
her job was to control the production behind the camera. When the bomb
exploded, she was injured by the glass which fell on her. She described the
whole experience as an enormous shock, stronger than the actual pain caused
by the injury. She has been trying to collect her mind  for days, but only
later did she have a time to think how lucky she was because her monitor
haven't exploded!
I remember that during the "big blast" in Pancevo, when all three of the
plants in the Industrial Zone in town were bombed in a single attack, and
toxic gases were freed, my mind was also in a state of shock. Just to see
the enormous blast which turned night into a day  was enough to shake your
entire being. But I remember as well that there was a voice deep, deep
inside me, which was telling me that everything is going to be all right.
Today, by the way, there was an official humanitarian UN delegation,
visiting the destroyed plants in Industrial Zone in Pancevo. Ironically,
during the time of the visit, one of the NATO projectiles fell in Obrenovac
( Belgrade's suburbia), some 30 km away,  destroying a private house.
While leaving Pancevo, UN delegation had a car accident, and two members of
the mission were injured.
As of my own activities, I just finished a fifth installment of my new
strip, titled "Regards from Serbia". Yes, Chris Ware has convinced me to
start working on weekly strip.
See you tomorrow
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Earthquakes, storms and bombs

[Mack White]

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NOTE:  Sasa Rakezic (aka Aleksander Zograf) is a cartoonist living in
Serbia.  His published works include Life Under Sanctions (Fantagraphics)
and Flock of Dreamers (Kitchen Sink Press).  He has been witnessing the
NATO bombing of his hometown Pancevo, and has managed to stay in contact by
e-mail with the international community of cartoonists, comics fans,
publishers, and scholars.  Following is his latest report.

From: "Sasa Rakezic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sasa Rakezic
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26000 Pancevo
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May 17th 1999
Hello to everybody!
Today, again, the Central Serbia was shaken both by an earthquake, and by
NATO bombs. The earthquake was not as strong as the one which happened just
few days ago, but last Friday was marked by another catastrophe caused by a
nature, not by a man: a heavy storm that destroyed many crops in Northern
Serbia - some fruit tree plants will not be ready for exploitation for
several years... In some parts, they reported pieces of ice 5 - 6 cm large
falling from the sky, and destroying roves and the parked cars.The damage
made to some towns was not much different from the damage caused by NATO
bombs!!
Today, one of the NATO targets was again a highway route Belgrade-Nis. One
of the bombs fell but haven't exploded, and it was just another way to
(unintentionally, though) disrupt the traffic in that part of the road
A railroad near the same spot (Velika Plana) was also destroyed by NATO
projectiles. Gordana and I travel down that highway every summer, when we
go to my parents' cottage in a place called Gamzigrad. We go to a vacation
there, but I also go to search for the fossils hidden in the rocks around
the place. Gamzigrad was always inspirational for my dream explorations as
well - it was in Gamzigrad, years ago, that I had vivid dreams about
cartoons, which inspired me to start to develop  the idea of dream comics.
This year, it will probably take much more time to reach the place, and god
knows if this summer we will have to think about the vacation at all, as
our concerns may be much more concentrated on the... invasion of the NATO
ground troops! Some reality we are dwelling.
Saw a TV report about the NATO pilotless aircraft ( owned by German
airforce ) which was  hit by Antiaircraft Defenses. Few of the aircrafts of
this type were shot down thus far, and there was even a dramatic video
report that shows a moment when one of those planes were crashing down.  As
these planes are used for observing the targeted area, it must be
interesting to watch the material they filmed, as it was also reported that
in some of the aircrafts a tape was found
intact.
One of the shocking things about the bombing of the column of Albanian
refugees in the village of Korisa few days ago, according to the Serbian
media, is that NATO has used "termo bombs" - an awful weaponry which
produces a high temperature (about 2000 degrees Celsius!!), which explains
the horrible, horrible pictures of burnt bodies found  at the site...We
thought that "soft bombs", constructed to switch out the power lines, were
the last of the "new weapons" used in this war. But god knows what we may
expect next... If the war continues to escalate, it will be a nice
opportunity for someone to try everything they treasured in stocks of the
military  laboratories.
OK, that's enough for today.
Bye
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Internet War and Peace

[Mack White]

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NOTE:  Sasa Rakezic (aka Aleksander Zograf) is a cartoonist living in
Serbia.  His published works include Life Under Sanctions (Fantagraphics)
and Flock of Dreamers (Kitchen Sink Press).  He has been witnessing the
NATO bombing of his hometown Pancevo, and has managed to stay in contact by
e-mail with the international community of cartoonists, comics fans,
publishers, and scholars.  Following is his latest report.

From: "Sasa Rakezic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Internet war and peace
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:31:35 +0200
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Sasa Rakezic
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May 15th 1999

Hello people!
YES! We still have an access to Internet. Despite that New York's Loral
Space and Communications company ( which deals with U.S. communicational
satellites business),  said that they may be forced to cut the internet
access to Serbia, it seems that this decision was withdrawn for the moment.
I don't pretend that I understand how this all operates, but anyway
Yugoslav providers have announced yesterday that they will be able to find
the alternative Internet links, even if they will be cut off from the
access to satellite.
Still, Serbian Internet users are having difficulties because of the NATO
"soft bombs" strikes against the power lines, and frequent black outs,
etc., not to mention the bombing of communicational infrastructure...
Recently I received a warning note, because many of the Internet users in
Serbia
have received computer virus through a file attachment titled "Stop the
bombing". Many think that the virus was probably produced in NATO
countries, or maybe even by somebody directly connected to NATO, as the
design is obviously made to attract the Internet users who are opposed to
bombing.
Anyway, Internet had an important impact on this war, as it provided a
communication link between people, even if their governments were in war ,
and it may be an important
tool for the future pacification process of this sick world we're living
in.
Two nights ago, NATO has switched out the electricity in many towns in
Serbia. During the last night, black outs were caused not by NATO bombs,
but by a storm. As in a few occasions before, everybody was trying  to
distinct  the
thunder and lightning from the bomb blasts  (which is not easy). Several
times during this bombing campaign there were  earthquakes shaking the
Serbian soil, as well, and - like many others - I haven't even noticed it,
in the midst of all
the detonations.
Yesterday, the number one news was the NATO bombing of another Albanian
refugee column, in a village of Korisa, in Kosovo. As I write this, more
then 80 people, mostly women and children, were found dead!!! A shocking
sight that we have seen already too often in this war, when the powerfull
NATO projectils have exploded too close to the unprotected people: remains
of the  human flesh torn to pieces.
According to a report few days old, among about 300 civilians who were
killed
by NATO bombs thrown at the territory of Kosovo only, about half were
Albanians. The misery was equaly distributed, among the nations in this
meaningless conflict
The whole Kosovo is radiating a vibration of violence and despair.
Yesterday I spoke to a friend who lives in a small town in Southern
Serbia...A town is very close to Kosovo, and my friend could often see the
endless series of blasts, echoes of the countless NATO bombings  coming
from that direction...What is also visable is a traffic of buses adjusted
for transportation of  injured Serbian soldiersAs it
is not possible to transport all the wounded people by the regular
ambulance car, they have taken out the seats from the buses, and inserted a
double beds
instead...A large number of injured people could be transported that way...
A friend has told me that he spoke to a man who is a driver of another type
of vehicle, a military car  which transports dead soldiers from Kosovo to
the city of NisThe man
was almost mad of misery. On top of his morbid "everyday activity", while
he was passing through  the
perifery of some  village in Kosovo , by a chance he has spotted a man who,
looking from a distance, seemed to be kneeling down underneath the branches
of the trees...It turned out that it was a body of a man who commited
suicide...  Later they found that it was an Albanian who
was overwhelmed by dispair and hanged himself."It was a small, tiny
tree, and it must have been the enormous urge to die which enabled that man
to actually kill himself" - said the driver, whispering to my friend.
Bye
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: The sound of fighter planes

[Mack White]

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From: "Sasa Rakezic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The sound of fighter plane
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 00:48:40 +0200
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Sasa Rakezic
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May 12th 1999

Hello folks

It turned out that yesterday, around 2 PM,  during the NATO bombings of the
antiaitcraft defenses placed near the villages around Pancevo, the bus was
passing just about 30-40  meters from the place where the bombs fell... It
is the same bus that Gordana takes every day when she goes to work, and
today she  spoke to the bus conducter who witnessed the whole event...The
conducter said that people in the bus have heard the sound of the planes,
and the next thing that they saw were the bombs exploding near the house on
the side of the road, while the military vechicles were passing there (they
are forced to constantly move their anti-aircraft weaponry), heading to the
near-by forest. Not only that the house was crushed and set to fire, but
the explosion as well launched  parts of the construction all around. One
of the bricks hit and broke the window of the bus, but, by  a wonder, none
of the passengers were hurt... Everybody was appalled! The bus stopped, and
haven't continued its ride before some time, as all needed to collect their
mind ... Three of the villagers were injured, including the poor older
couple
from the house that was completely demolished. I was thinking that one of
the most terrorizing aspects of this bombing campaign is that it is
actually so wide, that noone knows if the house on the end of the road is
going to be torn to pieces, or weather some peaceful neighbor is in danger
to be targeted, or what is going to happen next. And still, the whole
action is presented as "selective" and as if projected to be human and
civilized. War, any war,  is built on the idea of destruction, which mostly
means just prosaic killing.To the innocent people who died or were injured
or left homeless, it hardly metters if the executors were the Milosevic's
brutal special forces, or fanatics from KLA, or NATO's sophisticated
machinery. The final result is always the same: innocent people that are
bleeding. If this is covered with the facade of "civilized behaviour" and
"progress" embodied in the shiny machines of modern technology, it makes it
only more frightening.
As for the sound of NATO  aircrafts, which is everybody's
nightmare here, I received a letter by a friend from San Francisco, a
cartoonist Chris Lanier."Here in San Francisco", said Chris, "every year
they have an event called "Fleet Week." It
has something to do with the Navy, I don't know what. A lot of gunboats
shore up in the harbor, and various fighter planes put on a spectacle of
formation flying above the bay. The "Blue Angels" always fly, doing loops,
leaving vapor trails in the sky...
The week before the performance is terrible. The fighters fly their test
runs, zooming over the neighborhoods, rattling the windows, shaking the
ground, thrumming the eardrums with the roar of their engines. The news
always does something about the Blue Angels, showing footage of them arcing
through the air, the sun photogenically glinting from their steel blue
wings.
I think it never occurs to the majority of the spectators at Fleet Week
that what they are watching are not machines built to entertain them -
machines built to do loop-de-loops and make vapor-trail geometric designs -
but rather machines that were built for the sole purpose of slaughtering
people.
I don't think that most people here realize that the sound of fighter plane
engines, for most people in the world, is a sound that causes terror, that
announces the proximity of the bombs. They just hear it as the sound of
Fleet Week".
Bye
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Broken glass on the pavement

[Mack White]

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From: "Sasa Rakezic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Broken glass on the pavement
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:42:05 +0200
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Sasa Rakezic
P.F. 163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia (Serbia)
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May 11th 1999
Hello!!
Yesterday I walked through Kneza Milosa street in Belgrade, right in the
center of the town. Many buidings in this (and surrounding) streets were
destroyed by NATO bombs -- it is the part of the town where many
government and military HQ buildings are placed, together with foreign
embassies, etc. One of the bombs that fell haven't exploded, and was
activated recently, in the middle of the day, causing more damages and
destructions... Broken glass and heavy blocks of bricks and mortar were
launched all around, and few streets were closed for the traffic.
I've read an article about the small town in Belgium, which is also called
Belgrade, and they even have a football club called Red Star!..."I hope
that they will not bomb us by mistake" - said one of the citizens of
Belgrade, Belgium, refering to many NATO "mistake bombings". By the way,
there are at least 3 or 4 Belgrades in U.S. as well.
Last night one of the army barracks in Pancevo ( placed near the train
station ) was bombed by NATO.Barracks were already emptied, but the
detonation has produced damages to many civilian houses in town.Today,at
about 2PM, antiaircraft defenses in villages around Pancevo were bombed
after a sudden NATO attack, and several villagers were injured, with  their
houses and goods seriously damaged. A friend of ours, who plays drums in a
band called NUP, and is one of the cartoonists gathered around my "Kitchen"
comics workshop, was drafted in a defense unit placede in his native
village of Banatsko Novo Selo. We tryed to call and see if he was OK, but
the lines were busy all the time, probably because so many people were
calling their friends and relatives... Djavo (the drummer) called me later,
and said that he was on a vacation during that attack, thank god.
 Today, while I drew my new comic strip, I played a lot of Jonathan
Richman's records. Couple of months ago, together with a guy from B92 radio
station, I was trying to contact Jonathan and convince him to play in
Belgrade, after his concert in
Salonika, in Greece, planned for mid March. It turned out that Jonathan's
schedule was too busy, and he missed the opportunity to play in Serbia some
days before the bombing, ha ha.
More detonations around Pancevo while I write this. The sound of
detonations is something that we will not forget, even when the war is
over. It echoes inside your psychological structure, and I'm sure that it
will come up in my dreams for many years to come.
Until soon
S.

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[CTRL] Saving the Earth

[Mack White]

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SAVING THE EARTH

Excerpts from Brave New Schools by Berit Kjos

   * * * * * *
"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that
pollution, the threat of global
warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill All
these dangers are caused by human
intervention... The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.1 Club of Rome (an
influential group of globalist
leaders)

   * * * * * *
In the weeks surrounding Earth Day (April 22, Lenin's birthday), students
from coast to coast celebrate their spiritual connection to Mother Earth,
chant prayers to the Great Spirit, and imagine politically correct answers
to the unequal distribution of the world's resources. Using computers that
"simulate the real world," they recreate environmental disasters and
"solve" global problems.

These dubious lessons share a common aim-. to persuade students to reject
Western culture and become
advocates for new global beliefs and values. While this agenda makes little
sense to those who view America from a traditional perspective, it makes
perfect sense to leaders seeking global laws that would govern land,
people, education, and consumption.

A lesson in Clean Sweep, an environmental curriculum published by the Iowa
Department of Education,
illustrates the bias behind environmental education. The class divides into
two groups: first, the world's
current population seated in a circle representing the earth; second, the
"unborn" people of the world. Played like musical chairs, the game
instructs the first group to gather natural resources whenever the music
stops.

Meanwhile, new children are "born", adding to the fast-growing "population"
consuming the dwindling
resources. Guess what happens. The world runs out of resources.

Like most environmental classroom exercises, the game sounds logical but
distorts reality. Designed to change attitudes, it ignores scientific
facts, social statistics, and renewable resources.2 Yet, what it does is
far more dangerous than what it omits: it gives children an alarming view
of an imagined reality. They feel the exaggerated dangers. They agree to
solve the problem.

To make sure the children understand that America is the villain of the
world, they discuss the main message: "The U.S.A. uses over 20% of the
world's resources. . . How do the others feel toward the U.S.A. in this
game?" Other questions prod the children toward these "right" conclusions:
America's demand for resources deprives poorer nations of their equal
share. Greedy nations must reduce consumption, block population growth, and
make whatever sacrifices needed for common good and planetary healing.
Genuine concern for the environment is needful, for ecological abuses do
destroy farm land, sea life, forests, and other resources-especially
outside the Western word. But since most environmental problems are local
or regional, they fail to serve the political purposes of global leaders
who want nothing less than global governance.

Rousing whole nations to action, and inspiring a unified call for planetary
management requires global
disasters like ozone holes3 and rising ocean levels, not merely dying lakes
and rivers. Globalist leaders know that well.

"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that
pollution, the threat of global
warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill," declared
members of the Club of Rome in a sweeping 1991 report on global
governance." All these dangers are caused by human intervention The
real enemy, then, is humanity itself." 4

Al Gore, who wrote a book to spread a similar message, said, "We must make
rescue of the environment the central organizing principle for
civilization."5 In Earth in the Balance, he calls for a "worldwide
education program" and a "panreligious perspective" based on "the wisdom
distilled by all faiths."6

Gore knows that common beliefs and values based on idealized (not factual)
models of earth-centered cultures are vital to planetary oneness. Just as
tribes, not individuals, owned the land and shared common values, so
government must control land, populations, and beliefs in the next decade.
A mythical "common good" must inspire the new policies.7

"We'd like to see the world a better place... to get some broad-based
support, to capture the public's
imagination," said Stanford University environmentalist Stephen Schneider.
"That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to
offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make
little mention of any doubts we might have... Each of us has to decide what
the right balance is between being effective and being honest."8 (Emphasis
added)

In other words, facts must yield to ideology. Excluded from public debate
are uncompromising scientists like Dr. Frederick Seitz, past President of
the National Academy of Sciences and 

[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: NO COMMUNICATION

[Mack White]

 -Caveat Lector-

NOTE:  Aleksander Zograf (aka Sasa Rakezic), a cartoonist living in
Serbia, has been witnessing the bombing of his hometown, Pancevo, by NATO.
He has been staying in contact with the international alternative comics
community by e-mail.  Following is his latest report.

From: "Sasa Rakezic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NO COMMUNICATION
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 22:51:14 +0200
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Sasa Rakezic
P.F. 163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia (Serbia)
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May 9th 1999

Hello friends!
Last night, a main post office in Kragujevac, in Central Serbia,  was hit
by a
NATO bomb, but it didn't explode. During the same night, another post
office - in a town of Uzice, was completely destroyed by NATO projectiles,
and in a second attack, the same bulding - which was already turned into
ruins - was bombed once more. The whole area was left without phone
connections. The same thing could happen here in my town as well, and it
makes me sad  just to think about the possibility that we could be cut off
from our friends all over the world...
By the way, I have found more funny NATO leaflets - they are so
collectible!  I already gathered  an interesting collection. The newest one
is with the target sign ( so, it seems that  - eventually -  it was adopted
even by the NATO designers! ) and with the message:NO FUEL, NO POWER, NO
TRADE, NO FREEDOM, NO FUTURE: MILOSEVIC. Milosevic's photo ( a rather small
one) is also included.
 Could these leaflets, dropped (maybe?) from the same planes which are
dropping bombs on the towns bellow, be the  meaningful media for the
communication with the Serbian people? Ironically, one of the small Tv
stations  here has aired  "Mars Attacks" movie few weeks ago. One of the
scenes includes Martians destroying the towns and people of the Earth,
while at the same time there was a voice from the speaker saying (with
"Martian" accent): "DON'T RUN AWAY! WE ARE YOUR FRIENDS! I REPEAT: DON'T
RUN AWAY! WE ARE YOUR FRIENDS!!" This whole situation seemed strangelly
familiar to what we are experiencing in this silly land of Serbia.
Anyway, after most of the offices and the transmitters of the major Tv
stations ( some of which were owned by a state, and some which were private
ones) in Serbia  were rocketed , in some parts of the counrty you can see
only a couple of programs, aired by some small local transmitters, but in
some parts there is no signal of any Tv station left. Instead, I heard that
some people were able to receive the signal by some sort of NATO Tv
program, in Serbo-Croat language, transmitted probably from the near-by
countries. I wasn't able to watch any of it, but I can guess that most of
the people here will not be quite delighted to watch the program with NATO
trademark , after the domestic stations has been  blown to pieces by the
very same organization (even though most of the Serbian stations were
mostly airing American movies and Tv series anyway. At the beginning of the
bombing campaign, as I  described, there were some attempts by local
censors to exclude American movies and series from the Serbian media. But
it lasted just few days or so ).
 It is obvious that war kills communication, and that people who are
pointing the means of destruction at each other don't really want to
establish a meaningful communication in the first place. I should say
again, and again,  that we are living in a savage world, hiding behind the
happy face of the mass communication. We are still learning to talk to each
otherAnd we almost forgot that it is a simple and natural thing to do.
Bye bye
Sasa

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[CTRL] SONY: Standard Oil of New York

[Mack White]

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From Dr. Beter Audio Letter #3 (August 21, 1975):

For example, the Rockefeller-controlled "Hertz Rent-A-Car Company"
has just launched a new magazine for customers called "NUMBER ONE",
and the inaugural issue contains a cover article titled, quote:
"JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER III - SOME STRONG IDEAS AMERICANS CAN USE IN
THE SECOND REVOLUTION." In that article John's involvement in the
IPR is paraded as if it were something to be proud of; but it
doesn't mention that after Japan was defeated in the War (that
the IPR helped bring about), John D. Rockefeller III swooped
down with his entourage and proceeded to take over the Japanese
economy lock, stock, and barrel, consolidating great chunks of
it into a huge cartel called the Zaibatsu.

The so-called economic miracle of Japan is in fact no more surprising
than the remarkably American appearance of this Asian giant since the
War. Since World War II both America and Japan have been under
Rockefeller control. After all, even SONY stands for nothing more
than the former Standard Oil Company of New York!

From Dr. Beter Audio Letter #36 (July 27, 1978):

   When war broke out, John D. Rockefeller III promptly made
himself "Assistant" to the same Norman Davis who had told Bishop
Wells of the coming war with Japan.  From there, John moved from
one position to another, setting the stage for a complete
Rockefeller take-over of Japan after the war.  As soon as World
War II ended, John D. Rockefeller III and his entourage swooped
down upon the ruins of Japan.  To a people destitute in the
aftermath of war, financial resources of Rockefeller proportions
can buy almost anything and everything--and they did just that.
Soon the mammoth Rockefeller Cartel of thousands of Japanese
enterprises, the zaibatsu, began emerging.  Much of the early
industrial rebirth in Japan under Rockefeller control was in the
area of electronics, for which the Japanese have an enormous
aptitude.  One of the most famous Rockefeller enterprises in
Japan in this realm is that of "SONY" whose products have
penetrated every nook and cranny of the world.  SONY, my friends,
is not a Japanese name or word, but an acronym--it stands for the
former Standard Oil of New York.  Today Japan is making a bid to
become the No. 1 power in electronics in the entire world.  At
the funeral of John D. Rockefeller III this month, more than half
of the cables and telegrams came from associates in Japan, but
John's expertise in the Far East went far beyond Japan to include
all of Asia.

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[CTRL] Violence Threatened in Three Austin Area Schools

[Mack White]

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The Austin, Texas media is giving sensational coverage to the following
stories.  From the Channel 7 website:

WIMBERLEY TEENS IN CUSTODY AFTER ALLEGED PLOT

A state district judge has ordered four junior high students held without
bond following allegations that they were plotting an attack on their
school in Wimberley with homemade bombs. State District Judge Howard Warner
ruled Monday that the 14-year-olds, all eighth-graders at Wimberley's
Danforth Junior High School, should remain in custody until another hearing
in 10 days. Neither the parents nor their attorneys could answer reporters'
questions after the hearing because Warner issued a gag order on all
involved in the case. He also closed the proceedings to the media. On
Friday, officers picked the suspects up at school after students and
teachers reported overhearing the eighth graders discussing a suspected
plan to kill classmates and faculty members. They are being held on
juvenile charges of conspiracy to commit murder, conspiracy to commit arson
and conspiracy to manufacture explosives.  Police initially held a fifth
boy but released him. Authorities said a search of the boys' homes yielded
gunpowder, crude explosive devices and computer disks with bomb-building
information, some of it downloaded from the Internet. One of  the boys'
mothers has said the explosives police found were no more than "a
firecracker emptied into a pill container."  But after the deaths of 14
students and a teacher at a high school in Littleton, Colo., last week, few
seem interested in dismissing the case as kids' play.

THREATS SPREAD TO MORE TEXAS SCHOOLS
Two Round Rock High School students are suspected of posting a Web site
that encourages classmates to blow up the school. A student at Martin
Junior High in Austin is accused of threatening to shoot a teacher and some
other students, and in Elgin, a teacher says he heard two freshmen talking
about blowing up the school. School disciplinary action has  been taken in
all the cases, but no police charges have been filed. In Round Rock,
administrators suspended the boys from classes and the principal has
recommended they attend the district's alternative school for three days.

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[CTRL] An American Writer in Serbia: The Serbian Nightmare

[Mack White]

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Sasa Rekazic, my cartoonist friend in Serbia, sent me the following
article.  It was written by Charles Alverson, an American who has been
living in Serbia for five years.  Alverson is the ex-editor of Harvey
Kurtzman's legendary Help! magazine and the author of scripts for Terry
Gilliam's movies.  He has also been a reporter for the Wall Street Journal
and Rolling Stone.

Mack White
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Austin, TX  78765

The Serbian Nightmare (By Charles Alverson)

Right now, for an American being in Serbia is like living in a bad dream
but not exactly a nightmare. Here in the Vojvodina countryside about midway
between Belgrade and southern Hungary, disturbed only by anti-air raid
sirens and the dull boom of distant anti-aircraft fire, everyday life is
too peaceful to support such a dramatic description.

But all the same it is very strange.

I mean, the country is being bombed by NATO, those defenders of European
peace, allegedly to protect the ethnic Albanian Yugoslavs in Kosovo.   But
ethnic Albanians are daily fleeing Kosovo and Serbia in ever-greater
masses.  The bombing is obviously not working.  Some 28,000 NATO troops
perched just across the Macedonian border awaitPresident Clinton tells usan
 'invitation' from the Yugoslav government to come in and restore the
peace.  Bombs, apparently, do not need an invitation, but troops do.  So
the troops, potential saviors of the ethnic Albanians, sit idly amid
growing Macedonian hostility while the international media scream louder
and louder about  'ethnic cleansing.'

The curious current worldview of the Serbs asks us to believe two things
simultaneously: that the Serbs are superhuman and that they are also
subhuman.  They are superhuman in that they should not really mind turning
over a nice chunk of their nation (just under 10 per cent) to an ethnic
Albanian republic because the majority there simply does not want to be
Yugoslavs. The world asks Serbia: What is the big deal about this?  Never
mind the Serbian view of Kosovo as the cradle of Serbian culture drenched
with the blood of Serbian martyrs over more than 600 years, etc.   In a
very real way, it is the equivalent of telling Mr. and Mrs. Jones:   'Look,
the relations sharing your house outnumber you, and they are unhappy about
the way you have treated them.  So, why don't you just move out of a couple
of rooms and let them take over?  And invite in some nice policemen for an
unlimited time to make sure things go smoothly.  Come to your senses, folks
or we'll keep bombing you until you do.'

Your superhuman Serb is supposed to be above such mundane concerns as
patriotism, historical and cultural pride and simply the fact that a part
of his country is suddenly going to require a visa to visit.  He is
supposed to reject not only Big Serbia, that mythical state beloved of the
editorial writers who have forgotten all the Serbian history they never
learned, but positively embrace Little (or even Minimalist) Serbia, the
small-economy size nationlet the world might possibly leave him to enjoy.
My Serbian wife, Zivana, claims that the Vojvodina region where we livewith
large ethnic Hungarian, Slovakian and German minoritieswill be the next bit
of Serbia to be surgically removed.  Before the Kosovo-inspired bombing, I
thought she was being paranoid.

At the same time, the Serbs are urged to be superhuman enough to ignore a
little thing like an armed uprising and to fight a civil war against
guerrillas without upsetting or displacing non-combatants, they are accused
of being subhuman in their treatment of the ethnic Albanians.  No
atrocity,
no brutality is too extreme to be attributed to the vicious Serbs,
especially by journalists far from the scene or those with an axe to grind.
 Their blood lust whetted by the Bosnian War, the Serbs are caricatured as
eager to persecute the innocent ethnic Albanians simply because they are
not Serbs and do not want to stay Yugoslavians.

It probably does no good for me to insist that these do not resemble the
Serbs that I have come to know in nearly five years of living in the
country.  You may think that I am naive to mention that in all that time I
have seldom witnessed a public argument and never seen even a fistfight.
Perhaps there is something magical about donning a uniform that turns an
18-year-old conscripted Serb into a  'beast.'

I don't pretend to know what is going on in Kosovo in these dark times.
But I hope for the best while fearing the worst.   What I see in Belgrade
is a maligned and persecuted people reacting with courage and humor to the
phenomenon of defenselessness under the bombs of NATO.  All over Belgrade
people wear pinned-on target badges to reflect their contempt for the
bombers and those who sent them. The sight of a young mother pinning
targets on her toddler and a baby in a pushchair at a huge pop concert in
the center of Belgrade typifies the spirit of a people who

[CTRL] A Texan in Serbia: Dancing on the Bridge

[Mack White]

 -Caveat Lector-

Sasa Rekazic, my cartoonist friend in Serbia, sent me the following
article.  It was written by a fellow Texan now living in Novi Sad.

Mack White
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P.O. Box 49575
Austin, TX  78765

Dancing on the Bridge (By Randall Major)

NOVI SAD, Apr. 18 - The informed world is astounded. The crazy Serbs have
turned out enmasse, to stand in the dark on their bridges, disregarding the
air raid sirens, to sing and dance, to shout cries of rebellion at NATO,
the most incredible superpower ever to exist. Are they insane? Are they
just victims of a propaganda war? What is, indeed, wrong with these people?

As a Texan, as someone who lives among the people of Novi Sad, I can claim
with confidence: there is nothing wrong with them.

Imagine for a moment that, for whatever reason, a massive air armada was
threatening YOUR bridges. Stop and think. If someone were to demolish
London's Tower Bridge, how would your lives be affected? How would the
people of New York feel if some horrid force destroyed not only the
Tri-Burrows Bridge, but also the Brooklyn Bridge? How would your lives be
changed then? Or the Golden Gate Bridge. How would you feel if a MIG
suddenly appeared and shot out the center section?

As a Texan who grew up in a family of hunters, I must admit: my first
thought would be to take the .243 Remington my daddy gave me as my first
hunting rifle and go stand on that bridge. To shoot at whatever terrible
flying machine that might approach it. Or the .270 Winchester my brother
and I both used to hunt deer in our childhood. By God, even my daddy's old
16-gauge shotgun. I would defend those bridges with my whole heart, lay
down my life if necessary.

Take a map. Look for yourself. Where would you have to go to reach your
destinations if those bridges were suddenly gone? How would you get to
work, return home, or go shopping? Then understand. These people are
fighting for their bridges, because their bridges are their lives.

Is the Brooklyn Bridge a "military target"? A similar bridge in Novi Sad,
Yugoslavia, was proclaimed so. It is now a crumpled mass in the swirling
Danube. Is travelling to see loved ones in Mill Valley a military
operation? How many times have you seen tanks on the bridges of your town?
Ever? The very same is true here. In thirteen years here, I've never seen
even a military jeep on those bridges. Never.

It is not that the people of Yugoslavia don't have guns. They do. They are
hunters and sportsmen very much like many of the people of my native Texas.
But they leave their guns at home. They sing and dance, they celebrate
their bridges, fighting against brute force with their love for life and
for their bridges. Are these the "Serb butchers" as proclaimed by NATO and
the mass media? I hardly think so.

As an American, it just makes me stop and wonder. Where would WE be without
our bridges? The next time you drive over a bridge, think of it laying
crushed by a Tomahawk missile. How will that make YOU feel?

The very fact that NATO is blowing up Yugoslavia's bridges is symbolic in a
way. Each time a bridge goes down, a tie with the West is broken. A
childhood memory is obliterated. Loved ones are separated. And anger grows
towards the ones who have done it. By blowing up the bridges, NATO
countries are cutting all ties between themselves and the ordinary citizens
of Yugoslavia. How will those ties be reestablished in the future? And who
will rebuild the bridges? How long will it take? Every bridge and each
victim in this nonsensical war widen the gap and extend the time it will
take for the wounds to heal, for the bridges to be rebuilt.

Randall A. Major, Novi Sad, Yugoslavia

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[CTRL] Article from Serbian Cartoonist: More Fake Graves?

[Mack White]

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Sasa Rekazic, my cartoonist friend in Serbia, sent me the following
article.  I do not know the name of the Australian publication in which it
originally appeared.

Mack White
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Austin, TX  78765

More Fake Graves?

BRISBANE, Apr. 13 - Two TiM readers, half a world apart - one in Brisbane,
Australia, another in Minnesota - have independently concluded that the
satellite photos of the alleged new graves offered as "proof" of "Serb
atrocities" by Washington's "lie and deny" PR factory are - FAKES.  Here
was their reasoning (the photos are posted at our Web site within this
story so you can check them out for yourself):

"U.S. Lie Satellites! - ANOTHER PROPAGANDA CON," read the headline from a
message we received from Australia.  The photographs shown below came from
page 10 of Brisbane's Courier Mail, the main daily in this city.  They
purport to show "recently dug mass graves" (marked with the [] shape,
center of picture) near the Kosovo town of Pusto Selo.  Although the date
of 9 April is given on the picture on the right, no date is given on the
picture to the left.  This leaves the impression that the two photos are
"before and after" shots of the area.

"But the 'grave diggers' must have been busy little beavers," our
correspondent writes, "as new buildings have also "shot up"  while the
'graves' were being dug. (see top left corner of the right hand picture).

From which our correspondent concludes:  "I am no aerial reconnaissance
expert, but considering it is spring in Kosovo, and it takes about 12 weeks
to erect a substantial building like the one in the photograph, the picture
on the left must have been taken in winter, and of course the alleged "
recently dug graves," and the many other minor landmarks not evident in the
left side photograph, would have been snow covered.  If this is not the
case then the left side pictures must have been taken before the last
winter and is so old no reasonable comparison could be made.  Or perhaps
they are both the same picture and the guy with the airbrush got carried
away, and wiped the house out?'"!

Our correspondent from Minnesota noticed some other oddities about this
satellite "proof" of nothing.  "I noted that the shadows of the buildings
are in exactly the same position in both pictures," he wrote.  " Were both
of these pictures somehow taken at exactly the same time of day, on exactly
the same day of the year, and from exactly the same place in the sky?
Unless this is a satellite photo from a satellite that is in a coordinated
orbit over Pusto Selo, there is something wrong with this skit."
---

PLOTTING THE WAR AGAINST SERBIA: AN INSIDER'S STORY

1. Personal Preliminary Remarks

2. About the current lies told by [Chancellor] Schroeder, [Defense
Minister] Scharping, and [Foreign Minister] Fischer

3. CIA covert action aimed at dismembering Yugoslavia

Personal Preliminary Remarks:

This text I am giving to a Catholic priest, who is a member of the Order
for Peace [Ordensleute für den Frieden] here in Germany. I am doing so
while maintaining confessional confidentiality, and divulging no
information as to my identity. He will transmit this text on my behalf to
those who need to know the truth.

I hold a high-security post in the government apparatus in Bonn, and for
reasons of conscience can no longer remain silent. The facts that I am
about to divulge are, for the better informed, examinable and verifiable.

Both the entire NATO propaganda staff as well as the Infernal Trio,
Schroeder, Scharping and Fischer, here in Germany are unabashedly lying to
the public with nearly every "fact" they present about the Balkans War,
while a willing media pack is keenly spreading these lies, unverified, as
gospel truth.

About the current situation:

The Federal Government knows the true reasons why the people are fleeing
and is cynically playing with the calculated misery of the refugees in the
border regions of Kosovo, in order to maintain an image comparable to WW II
deportations and "ethnic cleansing".

Neither the military intelligence arm of the Bundeswehr nor that of the
NATO have at their disposal photographic evidence, intelligence knowledge,
indications and proof leading to the conclusion that there is systematic
expulsion or deportation of refugees by the Yugoslav special forces, army
or police. According to internal acknowledgement of the defense ministry
the reasons for flight are more or less equally distributed:

  (1) Excess on the part of Yugoslav soldiers and police force, often
triggered in part by KLA attacks carried out under cover of Kosovo-Albanian
civilians. Information is on hand that Yugoslav soldiers caught looting are
summarily court-martialed;

  (2) The results of the NATO bombing, such as the

[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: The Albanian Mafia

[Mack White]

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Following is a recent e-mail exchange between myself and Sasa Rekaxic (aka
Aleksander Zograf), posted here with his permission.

Mack White
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Sasa:

Thank you very much for writing.  I am continuing to follow your reports
with great interest and concern.  Your firsthand descriptions of this
criminal attack by NATO on your country are in sharp contrast to the war
propaganda we are being fed here by the elitist-controlled U.S. media.

To hear the Clinton government and U.S. media tell it, this war is being
fought for "humanitarian reasons."  Many people believe this,
unfortunately; however, not everyone does.  I certainly do not.

I have not sent you the articles I mentioned, out of concern they may be
too long for your computer to handle.  I understand you have had a great
deal of computer trouble and do not want to cause more trouble for you.
So, for the time being, I will not send the articles.

However, I can summarize for you the allegations being made as to why this
war is really being fought.  (I would be interested in hearing your
opinion on the following, as you have a personal perspective on Serbian
matters which I do not have.  I only know what I read.)

One reason for this war being staged at this time:  President Clinton is
attempting to draw public attention away from investigations into
allegations of rape, and, even more seriously, into his illegal,
treasonous transfer of nuclear technology to China.

Another reason:  The attacks are an attempt to bully Serbia into going
along with the International Monetary Fund and the Globalist/New World
Order agenda as promoted by the Council on Foreign Relations.

It is also believed by many that the Kosovo Liberation Army is a CIA
heroin smuggling operation, and that one motivation for this war might be
the Serbian government has been interfering with the CIA's heroin supply.
(It is documented fact the CIA imports heroin and cocaine into the U.S.
President Clinton himself was personally involved in this activity in the
1980s while governor of Arkansas.)

There is also some evidence to indicate the recent, highly publicized
massacre of Albanians was in fact perpetrated by the CIA, in order to
justify this war.  (There are many documented precedents for this sort of
activity.  It is well known the CIA has been staging atrocities and
blaming them on others for its entire history.  This is not surprising
when you remember the CIA was formed partly as a cover agency for Nazi
spies and war criminals after World War II.)

Praying for the safety of you and all your friends and family . . .

Your comix colleague,
Mack White




Sasa Rakezic
P.F.163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia /Serbia/
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www.pancevo.com/~zograf

Hello Mack!
Sorry I haven't answered you earlier. So much things to do... Beside the
fact that last bombing of Pancevo (the big blast, which also freed a toxic
gas) was a kind of a shock, I saw it from my window - can you imagine about
7 bombs being thrown at the same time, at the large Industrial complex,
full of explosive materials? Night turned into a spooky red-light day, and
the blast was visible from the distance of 200 km... The nearest of the
plants which were bombed  is less than 700m far from our appartment
building.

 To hear the Clinton government and U.S. media tell it, this war is being
 fought for "humanitarian reasons."  Many people believe this,
 unfortunately; however, not everyone does.  I certainly do not.

Well, that's a good excuse, anyway. Serbian regime is also using excuses to
play the dirty tricks with their own people. But they are a bloody
amatheurs compared to the Western Aliance.

 However, I can summarize for you the allegations being made by most
 investigators as to why this war is really being fought.
 One reason for this war being staged at this time:  President Clinton is
 attempting to draw public attention away from investigations into
 allegations of rape, and, even more seriously, into his illegal, treasonous
 transfer of nuclear technology to China.

This is very likely. But there are many other reasons, basically to do with
the demonstartion of power by the American administration and NATO as an
"world police" organization.Their idea is to impose an "super
hierarchy",with U.S. as a  supreme authority, hidden under the facade of
humanitarian and democratic facade. Their very being could be justified
only through occasional fights like this one in Balkans, which is serving
also to "discipline" the rest of the world. It is obvious that countries
like Italy and Greece, even though their interest and public oppinion
(especially in Greece)  is opposed to this war, they weren't able to
dissobey the actions projected by Clinton's administrat

[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: April 20th

[Mack White]

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NOTE:  The following is forwarded from the Comix Discussion List, which
links alternative comics creators, fans,  scholars, and publishers
worldwide.  It is the latest e-mail from Serbian cartoonist Sasa Rekazic
(aka Aleksandar Zograf), creator of Alas!, Life Under Sanctions, and
Psychonaut.  He has been witnessing the bombing of Pancevo by NATO.

From: "Aleksandar Zograf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: April 20th
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 05:41:28 +0200
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Sasa Rakezic
P.F.163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia /Serbia/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


April 20th 1999

Hello everybody!
It was a nice shinny day yesterday, which - as we learned - is a very
suitable  for bombing, as well. I was trying not to think about it, and to
relax my mind somehow, and I listened to the good old Bonzo Dog Band
records for several hours, and did some drawings...But just in the early
evening hours, the sky was getting cloudy, and - at least in this part of
the country - the night was unusually quiet.
Still, the city of Nis, in the Southern part of Serbia, was a target of the
NATO strikes, with Tobacco Industry plant almost totaly destroyed...Some
projectiles fell in the suburban area of the city as well, where the poor
people dwell.
As of Pancevo, soon after the whole mess with toxic materies was over (or
is it?!?!), it is discovered that there is another danger - this time of
the explosive materies which still remained in the Petrochemical plant
complex...People from the parts of the town closest to the Petrochemical
plant  were now warned to move - during the air raids - to the safer
places, and the buses are taking them away to schools and sports
centers...Our appartment building is right on the edge between the
"dangerous" and "more safe" area.
Also, everyone from the "danger" zone was warned not to use the food from
their gardens, etc., before it is tested by the experts.
I read about some people from the forest area, who spotted an unexploded
NATO missile in the wasteland. By the mere coicidence, when they were
searching the ground around the projectile, the locals have found the
remains of the parts of the old cannon (probably from the WW2)! There were
pictures of them with two "weapons", old and new, suddenly appearing to the
attention of the people from the distant area...
There was another story about the  man from the town of Kursumlija, who -
instead of  joining his family in the basement shelter, has decided to
remain sleeping in his bed during the air raids. For some reason,  the NATO
projectile fell on the near-by empty shack, causing a large explosion, and
a 20 meters long crater. The house was almost totally ruined, and  part of
the ceiling fell down, but the eldery man remained unhurt, laying in his
bed..." I just opened my eyes, and saw the starry sky instead of  the
ceiling" - he said later.
What's next?
Bye
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: BLACK CLOUD

[Mack White]

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From: "Aleksandar Zograf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BLACK CLOUD
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:28:41 +0200
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Sasa Rakezic
P.F.163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia /Serbia/
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April 19th 1999

Hello!
I am still trying to forget the "big blast" over Pancevo, two nights
before. It is reported that it was seen in town of Cacak, which is 200 km
from here... And the nearest plant which was bombed could be only about 700
meters from our home...Can you imagine all those bombs , thrown on several
industrial plants (with explosive materials etc.), exploding at the same
time?
By the way, the Oil Refinery is still burning, two days after bombing. I
can see the flame tall as a building...And the big black cloud of smoke
coming out of it.
Yesterday, the black smoke was enormous, visible in Belgrade (about 17 km
from Pancevo) as well. It must have been several kilometers long; we tryed
to make a photo, but it wasn't possible without some moving panoramic
camera or something.
Gordana and I went to a grave yard, which could be some 4 or 5 kilometers
from the Oil Refinery, and we were able to see the layers of soot on the
surface of tomb-stones. At the same location, I saw a small white object
falling from the sky. At first I thought that it could be a so-called
"locator", a pocket radio divice launched from NATO aircrafts, which serves
in the process of navigation of missiles (I think. I told you I don't know
too much about those things). It usually have a small parachute as well,
and these devices were very often found in the fields around town...
Anyway, when I came closer to observe the thing, it turned out to be a
piece of foam , which probably was cerried by the wind all the way from Oil
Refinery. Firemen were using the foam to controll the fire...
Yesterday, they were also getting read of the unexploded bombs at some
location near Belgrade. There were many cases of unexploded missiles, found
on most bizarre places.
Speaking of bizarre, one of the most peculiar cases happened two nights
before, during the bombing of Batajnica, near Belgrade. After the bomb
exploded, it launched  small metal pieces hurting five people, and one
piece crashed through the small window of the bathroom in a near-by house,
and killed a three year old girl inside!
Until next time
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Where Is This Leading To?

[Mack White]

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From: "Aleksandar Zograf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Where is this leading to?
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:52:59 +0200
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Sasa Rakezic
P.F.163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia /Serbia/
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April 16th 1999.

Hello!
Well, yesterday  was a pretty harsh day, so I will keep this message short.
After I have sent you the last letter (remeber: they bombed all the plants
in the industrial zone of the town of Pancevo,during the single strike!),
there was another attack on Oil Refinery late at night. The poisenous gas
(I forgot it's name, will try to check it out tomorrow) still remained in
the tanks of the Petrochemical Industry, and if they drop another bomb
tonight...It could be pretty bad, you see.
Anyway, nobody believed that NATO would REALLY bomb all those plants, as
they do not have anything to do with the military industry, fuel for the
trucks and military vehicles, or anything like that. That was the reason
why the whole industrial complex kept up working more or less with the full
steam. The workers were evacuated in the shelters, though, after the air
raid sirens were on - and (thank god!) just few people were injured after
the bombs hit their targets.
I haven't even woke up Gordana during the last strike and bombing of Oil
Refinery; she was so tired, and needed a rest before going to work, that
she haven't even woke up after the detonation... It  seemed so stupid, so
unreal - to watch from the top of our apartment building all those
industries burning last night... I felt so empty inside. Tomorrow morning,
I felt as if I was beaten up or slapped in the faceI took my bike and
went to the area which was bombed, trying to imagine the drama during the
moments of the explosions...
I remembered that only 10 days before the strikes began ,  the members of
my "Kitchen" comics workshop gathered together to go to the "excursion" to
the Monastery around which was built the complex of plants by Oil
Refinery... The Monastery was restored and open for the visitors only
recently, and for most of us (including me) it was the first time to really
see it from the inside...The sight of mediavel building captured by the
poluted modern technology , and parts of the Monestery, designed for
meditation and self-reflection,   turned into busy Oil Refinery offices -
it all seemed so drastic , that we made a couple of collaborative drawings,
pretty Apocaliptic in style and mood... Little did we know that only 10
days later this area will become  the space where the "Doomsday" style of
event will take place, and that the poor Monastery will be demaged
by...bombs?! After the first bombing of Oil Rafinery, some of the workers
were injured, some were burned, some of them had their limbs and heads torn
apart... How more Apocaliptic can you get?
Anyway, everybody was disturbed by the fact that it is  obvious that NATO
targets are becoming less and less predictive, or that the whole bombing
campaign is going out of control. There were reports of bombs falling
everywhere - civilian houses, post offices,backyards,open fields, even
hen-houses.
OK - that is enough for now,
Bye
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: EXTRA 2

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From: "Aleksandar Zograf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: EXTRA 2
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 19:33:23 +0200
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Sasa Rakezic
P.F.163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia /Serbia/
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April 17th, 7PM

There was an announcment by the expert, who said that they were measuring
the toxication in Pancevo since the begining of the bombing last night. In
the town area, the degree of toxication was dependentent of the direction
of the wind. At 4 and 5 AM, they said that the quantity of  Vinyl Chloride
Monomer gas, in some parts of the town, was about 7200 times larger than
allowed by international standards! He also said that, as far as they know,
this is the first time that such a quantity of that gas is poured out in
the human settlement, and that Petrochemical and Artifical Fertilizer
plants were not bombed in the wars this far.
Another report said that around 50 people were intoxicated, but the
informations are very scarce... Today we were riding the bike, and we were
watching the enormous black smoke coming out of Oil Refinery, and spreading
over the town. Still, while I'm writing this, the huge flame is coming out
from the several plants at the Refinery, 18 hours after the bombing...
Until soon
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Attractive to NATO

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From: "Aleksandar Zograf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Attractive to NATO
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 00:37:20 +0200
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Sasa Rakezic
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26000 Pancevo
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April 17th 1999

Hello everybody!
Yesterday it was unusually quiet, even eerie in Pancevo - the town was
almost emptied during the night. All of us who remained were looking at the
industrial part of town, fearing that the bombing of Petrochemical plant
would produce a catastrophy...
Few minutes before I started to write the message, there was a "battle" in
the sky, with Antiaircraft Defence forces shooting, and the roar of the
airplanes...They are reporting on the radio that "the activity of the NATO
aircrafts is very busy in the sky over Belgrade", probably heading to the
South of the country.The sound of the aircrafts is something that you feel
deep inside your stomach, and once that you hear it, it's very hard to
forget it - it is not just a sound, it is something that you remeber with
your "guts".
On Tv they showed a guy who was ( just like many workers from the Yugoslav
construction companies) working in Iraq , during the NATO strikes in a Gulf
War... He later went back to his native Bosnia, to a small town near
Srajevo, which was demarked as a  Serbian territory , and bombed by NATO in
1995...After that, poor guy moved to a suburban part of Belgrade
(Sremcica) which was exposed to a heavy bombings few days ago, and his
house was demaged... He is a funny looking guy, and it seemed that he is
attracting mighty NATO forces wherever he goes...
OK, as for my own activities,  more than 3 weeks after the strikes began, I
started to work on a new comic
I can hear many detonations in the direction of Belgrade... See you later,
folks!
Bye
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Leaflets, Bombs and Patriotic Songs

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From: "Aleksandar Zograf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Leaflets, bombs and patriotic songs
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:25:23 +0200
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Sasa Rakezic
P.F.163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia /Serbia/
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April 15th 1999

Hello
Well, Gordana came back from work today ( she works at a fruit plantation
as an agriculture engineer ), where they spotted leaflets falling from the
sky. It turned out to be NATO propaganda leaflets, written in Serbian,
with all those NATO trade marks, and announcment: "We want to talk to you"!
Ha ha, it was almost like a WW2 iconography, something  that we all
remember from the ancient  black and white movies... You would hardly
expect stuff like that from the NATO sophisticates.I will keep the leaflets
 for my
collection anyway!
On the other side,  Tv programs here are filled with the insults and war
propaganda language, not too far away from the WW2 neither...I still
remember that , when the bombing campaign began, I heard  a Serbian Tv
Newsreel speaker calling  Clinton " a semi-talented saxophone player". I
was wondering - if they really wanted to sound offensive, why haven't they
just
called him a "BAD saxophone player"?
 It is all so silly. And the silliest of all are the "patriotic" songs,
done in a style of "band aid", with all of the dullest pop singers posing
in front of camera etc. I always found those "band aid" projects boring to
tears, and on top of all
the tragedy we have to watch their video clips over and over again... Not
to mention the fact that even Michael Jackson , as I was informed by a
friend , had already recorded a song about the Kosovo refugees...It's true
what they say: war is hell!
OOPS! While I was writing this, I was interrupted by detonation. Several
NATO projectiles hit the (industrial) Southern Zone of Pancevo! This was
close to our home - less than 1km, and we felt the strong vibration, but
luckily the window glass was still in one piece... It was dangerous because
they hit the Artifical Fertilizer Factory (where they work with poisoneus
gases) and Petrochemical plants - during the same strike! It looked rather
eerie, with three flames burning with large intensity, and just few munutes
after the sounds of explosions we saw people running in their cars, trying
to go out of the place... The smoke was heading in the direction of the
part of the town called Topola, and the radio announcment was giving the
instruction for the people there to leave to the other parts... Gordana and
I went on the top of our apartment building, where the younger people
gathered to watch the sad "spectacle"
Soon the economy of the town will be almost completely ruined, of course.
On the radio there were news about more bridges and more industrial plants
being destroyed all over the country, more people killedAnother night
in Serbia.
Bye
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: EXTRA

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From: "Aleksandar Zograf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: EXTRA
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:28:40 +0200
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Sasa Rakezic
P.F.163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia /Serbia/
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April 18th 1999
10AM

Shortly after I have posted you the message last night, I was reading the
"response" to my letters (exposed via internet) by some annonimous "fan":
"Yoshi - You deserve what you get. Our President Clinton is a good man. If
he is bombing you then you must deserve it. You Serb".I was wandering what
"Yoshi" could mean, when the big blast has interrupted my toughts...It was
about 1AM, and the detonation was by far the most horrible one that I have
experienced ...(yet?). All three industries in the town were hit by several
projectiles. The explosion turned night into the day ,strange, spooky,
red-light day. While it was happening I had to turn down the computer,
which takes some time, damn it.
( Later I heard from a friend who said that some people were having a kid's
birthday party at the basement in the center of the town, the music was
loud, and they were all (kid's parents and friends) drunk already, but when
they saw that there was a blast that lightened the basement window and the
whole street fairly far away from the Industrial Zone, they were quite
shaken...).
I phoned to our friend Nandor ( the editor of Kulturbunt fanzine,
remember?), and he was ready to sit in the car and leave the town, with his
mother, wife and two kids. Nandor's sister-in-law gave a birth to a baby
boy three days ago, here in Pancevo...
Anyway, soon we were able to see people in cars, or riding bikes and
motorcycles and going out of the neighboring industrial area...
The biggest problem of all is, of course, the Petrochemical industry - they
are producing plastic materies, used in the production of plastic bags,
hoses etc.(nothing to do with the military equipment or something. Except
for the fact that ANYTHING could be used in a military, one way or another.
They will probably use this logic as an excuse to bomb EVERYTHING, and
still call it "selective" ). Anyway, the regular production of
Petrochemical industry requires use of the toxical materies such as gas
called vinyl-chloride-monomer (I'm not sure if this is correct in English).
It does not have a color or smell, and when freed -  in smaller quantities
it makes you laugh hysterically, and in bigger quantities - it is a deadly
poison...
Anyway, after the first bombing, they were trying to empty their tanks (or
what is it called) with that VCM gas, and it has to be done , as far as I
understand , by BURNING the remaining quantities, which takes some
time...It seems that during the last night bombing STILL some quantities of
VCM were in the tanks which were hit by the NATO projectiles... The firemen
went to pull out the fire in all of the plants except Petrochemical ones,
as it seems that it's safer if the gas is left to burn in the fire. The
wind was blowing in the direction of the river Danube, and again the people
from the town were lucky...Until the early morning, at about 3AM, when the
wind changed direction, and pulled the smoke into the direction of the
center of the town. At that point firemen were headed to Petrochemical
plants
Gordana and I decided to stay at home and watch the development of the
situation. After some time we went to bed, with radio on. I had a strangely
vivid dreams, for the first time since the strikes began. Not very
interesting dreams, though, mostly just nonsense. Gordana and I were siting
in a bar with friends, and the members of The Rolling Stones were there as
well. I was never a huge fan of the group (except for the earliest
material) , but I tryed to sound friendly, and so were they.
When we woke up, one part of the town was covered with white mist. The
other part was covered with dark grey, black cloud coming from the Oil
Refinery, which is still burning.The black cloud was up above the ground
level, heading its way to the place where my parents live...They don't have
a phone in their house, so I will have to go and visit them later today
The mayor of Pancevo appeared on Tv and said that the situation is not
alarming at the moment, but still is far from normal. He called people not
to leave their houses and to follow the news. He also said that this was an
obvuious attempt of killing the town...He also mentioned that during the
beginning of the raids there were a regular trains with the cargo
containing toxic materies , travelling from Romania to Turkey, and it was
again a mere coincidence that a huge catastrophy was not produced...
They said on the radio that 4 firemen were taken to hospital, because of
the smoke poisoning. Also, some of the workers from the industrial zone
were injured.
Bye now
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: More Bombs and Human Shields

[Mack White]

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From: "Aleksandar Zograf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sasa Rakezic
P.F.163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia /Serbia/
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April 11th 1999

Hey -
 I was getting weary of all this. I'm not so much of a "war" type, and
can't wait for the time when I will read comics late at night, instead of
standing at my window pane and watching "Tomahawk" missiles flying
aroundThose war rhetorics on the radio and Tv are enough to blow your
mind. And behind our backs, so many Albanian people being kicked out from
their homes in Kosovo. I lost my will to do anything. I needed some time to
be left on my own.
But don't worry - soon your "princess" will collect his mind, and be ready
for this bombing business, and letters and all...
Last night the radio alarmed "a very busy activity of the NATO aircrafts
coming from the North in the direction of Belgrade". I heard the planes,
and some detonations as well, but there were no news about some horrible
bombings as we were getting used to past few days... For some reason,
yesterday's activities of the NATO airplanes over Serbia were not so
drastic...
Tomorrow morning, everybody was commenting and trying to figure out - "Why
haven't they drop bombs?". While I was passing down the street, I heard
some old man saying: "This must have been a provocation!".
The other night 6 projectiles hit the Car factory plant in Kragujevac,
while the workers were around , forming a "human shield"... It is reported
that 124 persons were injured.  They said that they will continue with the
"human shield" action... This bombing has destroyed the central heating
system built not only for the internal use in the Factory, but also  for
the heating of the (civilian, of course) buildings and houses in the
biggest town in Central Serbia...
After all, the "human shield" actions are continuing on several bridges in
few towns in Serbia...
I suspect that people will become more and more suicidal as the bombing
campaign progress.
Still, you may ask: why have everybody accepted Milosevic's autocratic
leadership in Serbia under NATO bombs? And even though his "reign" was
becoming less and less popular during past several years (hence the student
and civil protests in 1996/"97)? Instead of the answer, I will let you read
the comparision written and forwarded to me by Terry "Monty Python" Jones
(from his letter published in Guardian):
  " Dear Sir,
If the old Warsaw Pact had bombed London because they didn't like
Mrs Thatcher's policies in Northern Ireland, you could be certain of two
things happening: 1) the whole country would have got behind Mrs Thatcher
and 2) it wouldn't have helped the situation in Ireland one little bit."
That guy, Terry Jones! He got it staright to the point.
Bye
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Methodical Death and Destruction

[Mack White]

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From: "Aleksandar Zograf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Listening
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:27:15 +0200
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Sasa Rakezic
P.F.163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia /Serbia/
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April 11th 1999
Hello
Not much bombing last night in the Northern part of Serbia, but they have
bombed some targets in Kosovo and Southern Serbia, with several civilian
deaths, including 11 months old baby and her father from Kursumlija, and a
pregnant mother being seriously injured...
I was thinking about the fact that everybody here is trying to listen very
carefully, in order to hear the planes, explosions, detonatiotions, or
whatever...Last night it was raining, and I caught myself trying to figure
out if the sounds that I was hearing were thunder, NATO planes, or Serbian
antiaircraft defence
I saw a Tv report with Charles Alverson (ex-editor of Harvey Kurtzman's
Help! magazine) joining the human shield on the only remaining bridge in
the city of Novi Sad
The other day we were at the party, and - as usual - people were talking
about the situation and bombings... We heard about the old man who was so
excited when he heard the emergency sirens, that he had a heart attack and
died on the pavement in Balkanska street, near the center of Belgrade...
Not so tragic was the case of the middle aged woman from Pancevo... On the
first day of NATO attacks, she  jumped into her car right after she heard
the sirens... She drove out of town until she ran out of gas, in some
distant village... She had to go back to the town by bus, during the raids,
and wasn't able to return the car because they stopped to sell gasoline to
the civilians... All sort of weird things are happening in this situations.
A friend's father had witnessed the bombings of Belgrade during the World
War 2, and he said that for him it was somehow easier to take: the bombings
were much harder, of course,  but they lasted only a day or two. After the
bombing was over, if you were lucky to be alive, you had a time to collect
and carry on... In the present time  situation, according to him, you see
the infrastructures of the country being destroyed day by day, very
methodicaly, people dying in smaller portions but in a longer period of
time, horrifying Tv pictures running over and over again
Still, they are announcing more and more aircrafts, and the intesification
of NATO strikes in the upcoming days...

Still with hope that we will live to see the better days -
Regards
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Publisher Killed, Refinery Bombed, Madness

[Mack White]

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From: "Aleksandar Zograf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sasa Rakezic
P.F.163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia /Serbia/
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April 12th 1999.

This is a second day of Orthodox EasterWhat a day...First, we were
waken up at about 3.30 AM in the morning, by the sound of a strong
detonation. They bombed Oil Refinery in Pancevo again! Everybody was
waiting for it to happen, and so many people have already left the town,
especially people with small children - because of the danger of ecological
disaster... The NATO aircraft has been cruising above its target for almost
15 minutes, before the bombs were dropped - three of them. Soon the horizon
was apocaliptically redTall flame and a smoke...Burning and exploding
over and over again...  Still, we were lucky that the wind was carrying the
smoke in the direction opposite of the town of Pancevo and nearest
villages, so that there was no need for evacuation...The fire was burning
until the afternoon...And the smell was sensed all the way to Belgrade
until late evening...
Still, this was some sort of relief, as everybody has been expecting the
new bombings...
Then, shortly before  10.30 PM , I heard sounds of Serbian Antiaircraft
Defense shooting, and heard the NATO planes... Soon, everybody went out at
the terraces, cheering and yelling as it seemed that some of the NATO
projectiles ( or aircrafts?) were  destroyed...But soon when we heard
another strong detonation, we realized that they bombed Oil Refinery
again!! And once more we were lucky: even though the wind was blowing in
the direction of the center of the town, the black smoke was lifted high
above the ground...While I write this, the firemen are surrounding the
Refinery, but they are still not active because the raids are on...
Today, one of the bridges in Grdulicka Klisura, in Southern Serbia,  was
bombed by NATO while the train with about 50 passangers was crossing it...
This far, ten people were found dead in the couches which were hit, and
many more people were injured...
Madness is surounding us from all sides... Yesterday, Slavko Curuvija - the
publisher of the independent daily paper and bi-weekly magazine from
Belgrade, was killed in front of his appartment building in the very center
of the city...Is somebody using the state of the warfare to strangle the
different voices in Serbia? Who is next?
Many questions, and I hear more detonations
Bye
Sasa

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [MC] Beatles, Rock Roll and Mind Control: The Aquarian Conspiracy

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A few choice quotes from Dr. John Coleman:

Following the Beatles, who incidentally were put together by the
Tavistock Institute, came other "Made in England" rock groups, who, like
 the Beatles, had Theo Adorno write their cult lyrics and compose all
the  "music." I hate to use these beautiful words in the context of

This is an astounding revelation.  Theo Adorno, all by himself, wrote the
music, not only for the Beatles, but for the ENTIRE British Invasion.  My
god, it wouldn't surprise me to learn he also wrote the music for Buddy
Holly and all the Beatles' other "influences."

For this feat, Adorno should be immediately inducted into the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame.  The man's genius has been greatly underestimated.

But what really gets me is, not only did Lennon and McCartney take credit
for all Adorno's compositions, they didn't have the COMMON COURTESY to put
him on the cover of Sgt. Pepper.

Without massive media hype, and without almost around the clock
coverage, the hippie-beatnik rock, drug cult would never have gotten off
 the ground; it would have remained a localized oddity. The Beatles,
with  their twanging guitars, silly expressions, drug language and weird

The "silly expressions" is probably the most sinister aspect of this
Tavistockian plot.  Just think what the world would be like today had it
not been for those silly expressions.

But seriously:

Prior to reading the above-quoted piece, I had an open mind towards
Coleman's theories re Tavistock, Adorno, the Beatles, etc.  However, now
that I have actually read his Beatles/Adorno theory in his own words, I
must say his stock has greatly plummeted.  The man is a cretin.




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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Civilian Targets Being Bombed

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NOTE:  Following is the latest report from Serbian cartoonist Sasa Rekazic
(aka Aleksandar Zograf), creator of Alas!, Life Under Sanctions, and
Psychonaut.  He has been witnessing the bombing of Pancevo by NATO and is
staying in contact with the international alternative comics community by
e-mail.

From: "Aleksandar Zograf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sasa Rakezic
P.F.163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia /Serbia/
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April 8th 1999.

It's few minutes after 10PM already, and no emergency sirens... That's
pretty odd, because we were almost getting used to NATO raids around 8 or 9
PM. (Ooops, they just announced the state of Emergency, at 10.15).
Last night, the Oil Refinery in Pancevo was not attacked, but many people
have left the town already because of the fear of ecological
disaster...Gordana hoped that we will spot the shop which sells cigaretes
somewhere, because the que will not be so huge in the emptied town...But it
seems that all the supplies were sold out already.  Dozens of buses
prepared in case of need  for evacuation were parked in few parts of the
town. Gordana went to her job in a near-by village, to find out that it was
full of people who escaped there from the town last evening...
Tonight, rock bands are playing a concert on a large bridge over Danube,
which connects Pancevo and Belgrade... Let's hope that it will convince
NATO  not to drop bombs while the people are there?
Last night the bombs fell on the Justice Court building in the very heart
of Belgrade. The building was not used by the military at all, and it was a
coicidence that nobody was hurt, as the passers-by (despite the emergency)
were walking there on the pavement and watched the projectile  falling from
the sky in a beautiful evening...
I saw the report about bombings of a small town of Cuprija, the place that
I visited several times... I remember it as a quiet, sleepy town, and it
was bizarre to see the buildings and little shops destroyed, with the
articles from the boutiques spilled all over the place... As the bombing
campaign progress, more and more civilian targets have been shot, and more
and more people are being killed and yet it's hard to find out about the
egzact number of the victims... I guess that authorities think that it will
be too depressing to count deads in situation like this?...
On the lighter side of reality, we heard that Serbian cartoonist Ivana
Filipovic has succesfully moved to Vancouver, Canada...Good luck, Ivana!
Also, friends from Galago (one of the best European alternative comics
magazines)  said that they are ready to come to Belgrade for the exhibition
of contemporary Swedish comics scene , as soon as the war stops. The
exhibition was in preparation shortly before the whole madness began...I
hope to see you soon, guys.
Regards
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: More Bombings and a Tobacco Shortage

[Mack White]

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NOTE:  The following is forwarded from the Comix Discussion List, which
links alternative comics creators, fans,  scholars, and publishers
worldwide.  It is the fourth e-mail from Serbian cartoonist Sasa Rekazic
(aka Aleksandar Zograf), creator of Alas!, Life Under Sanctions, and
Psychonaut.  He has been witnessing the bombing of Pancevo by NATO.

Mack White
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P.F.163

26000 Pancevo

Yugoslavia /Serbia/

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April 6th 1999.

Hello,

Gordana and I jumped out of bed at 3.50 AM, waken by a sound of a strong
detonation, coming somewhere from the North... We haven't seen a flame or
explosion, though. Nandor, who lives in a Northern part of the town, also
wasn't able to spot the target of the bombing, even though he heard the
planes and three detonations... Until the time when I write this (1 PM),
the local radio said that they can't locate the place where the bombs
fell?!...

This morning I was standing in the long que in front of the local
newsstand... People were waiting to buy the cigarets (five packs per
customer). I don't smoke, but I wanted to buy it for Gordana and my
parents... But the modest supply was sold out before my turn... There is a
great shortage of cigares, and many people are really nervous, because, as
you maybe know already, people in this part of the world smoke so much...
Yesterday, early in the morning, NATO has bombed the city of Nis, with 15
projectiles, which created the horrible damages all over the very heart of
the town...The starnge thing is that they bombed plants of the Tobacco
Industry in Nis as well... The whole storage of 100 tons of tobacco was
burnt down completely...

If that is a military target, what on earth is NOT a military target?

Today it's 6th of April, the date that marks the rather ironic anniversary
- on that day in 1941, Belgrade was bombed by Nazi German Army...
Everybody remembers this as the Armagedon-type of event, with many 1000's
of dead civilians,and the institutions like National Library completely
burnt down...Bombs have even fell on the Zoo which was (and still is)
rather close to the center of the city, so that freed wild animals were
running all over the place ( like shown in a movie titled "The
Underground", by Kusturica). The similar unhappy unniversary will probably
be marked on April 16-17th , when , this time in 1944 - during the
Orthodox Easter , Belgrade (and many other towns in Serbia)- still under
German occupation, were bombed by the Allies. The bombing was supposed to
be targeted at German military facilities, but - due to a bad weather etc.
- the bombers have missed most of their targets, and mostly killed
civilian people and caused a large destruction of the town... It seems
that this events at the time have caused people in Serbia feel as if they
are being bombed by everybody, be it the Occupation Army or the Allies...
Mind you that so many people who went through all that hell are still
alive, and they are watching the similar thing happening in 1999... By the
way, last night they bombed a small town of Aleksinac - one projectile hit
the Army barracks, while two bombs fell on the civil houses, destroying
the whole street near the ceneter of the town, and causing injuries and
death of many civilian people (they still search for them under the
ruins). That all looked pretty much like WW2 ...This was a rather awful
night in Serbia anyway, with Refinery in Novi Sad bombed and set to flame,
and with the only remaining bridge in town being a target of 2 Tomahawk
missiles...Both of the missiles were destroyed by Serbian anti-aircraft
forces,but, of course, everybody will fear that the next night NATO will
try to hit the same spot again

It should not be forgotten that on April 6th in 1992. the siege of
Sarajevo has began, this time with Bosnian Serbs being in the role of
bombers... And above all this, our friends from NATO will have to
celebrate their 50th anniversary on April 24th (I think) this year...

After 50 years, the problems are still being "solved" by dropping bombs.

As you can see, the anniversary could be such a horrible thing...

Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: A Nihilistic Mood

[Mack White]

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NOTE:  Following is the latest e-mail from from Serbian cartoonist Sasa
Rekazic (aka Aleksandar Zograf), creator of Alas!, Life Under Sanctions,
and Psychonaut.  He has been witnessing the bombing of Pancevo by NATO and
is managing to stay in contact with the international comics community
despite his computer being down.

Mack White
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.swankarmy.net/dutch5/comixnow/

From: "Aleksandar Zograf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sasa Rakezic
P.F.163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia /Serbia/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello -
Yesterday it was very cloudy, so it seems that they haven't dropped as much
bombs as it was usual during the past few days...Oh, well...
I was thinking about the changes that the use of internet has brought to
our life... Maybe it was really visible through this war - I just read the
forwarded letter about the strangest topic - it seems that somebody from
Italy has found out somehow the E mail addresses of the pilots from the
planes which are taking off from the NATO base in Aviano...The addresses
were sent to friends in Serbia, and it initiated the  "correspondence"
(mostly consisting of offense exchanges) between the people who are
dropping bombs, and those who are living in the places where the bombs are
supposed to be dropped.That's the modern technology...
I saw some excerpts from the pilotes' "letters", which were quite
disgusting, and I can only imagine the language used by those "on the
ground" who were writing to them...These things are always stupid and I
like to stay away from that sort of meaningless jabbering...
Speaking of jabbering, there's a lot of it on the Serbian media, which are
now almost absolutely controlled by the regime...I can't listen to one more
 insult based on Clinton's sex affairs, or all that patriotic songs, or any
other nonsense like that...I have met a guy from the local Peace Movement,
and he told me - "Everything that we tried to achieve past several years
was anihilated after the bombing has began".
 Today, the complete staff from the independent radio station B92 from
Belgrade is kicked out from their office by the police
I can't help but being nihilistic today
S.

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: I'm Horrified

[Mack White]

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NOTE:  The following is forwarded from the Comix Discussion List, which
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worldwide.  It is the fourth e-mail from Serbian cartoonist Sasa Rekazic
(aka Aleksandar Zograf), creator of Alas!, Life Under Sanctions, and
Psychonaut.  He has been witnessing the bombing of Pancevo by NATO.
Currently, he is having trouble sending messages now that the
infrastructure is being bombed (see below).  But, for the moment, he is
able to send from the PPM (Pancevo Peace Movement) .

Mack White
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P.O. Box 49575
Austin, TX  78765

Sasa Rakezic

P.F.163

26000 Pancevo

Yugoslavia /Serbia/

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

April 4th 1999.

Hey -

Last night I had that strange feeling that something is going to happen,

and I couldn't sleep... When I finally fall asleep, it was early in the

morning... I was waken by the ring of the phone, and it was Nandor - he was

covering the "Northern" part of the town, and I was supposed to observe

what was happening on the "South"..." They said on the radio that Refinery

was bombed!" - said Nandor. Everybody, everybody was fearing that it will

happen - there is a danger of the ecological catastrophy in Pancevo,

because of the ugly industrial zone (Refinery, Petrochemical and Artifical

Fertilizers Industry plants, all next to each other) in the Sothern part of

town, which everyone of you who visited us must have remembered seeing from

our window view... It is not only close to the center of the Pancevo, but

fairly close to Belgrade as well, and local Green Party members were

alarming about the potential danger of ecological disaster for years

Anyway, I tried to see a flame or something unusual, but there was just

some white cloud hovering over the area of Refinery... We understood that

it was not oil that was burning - it would cause a catastrophical

explosion, and this time the detonation was not strong enough even to wake

us up from our sleep...

It's funny but Gordana said that shortly before the phone rang, she had a

dream of a tractor on a farm The tractor was

producing something that looked like big cloud of steam... And when she

woke up, she (and I) were able to observe the similar type of a mist rising

above the Refinery. Soon they announced on the radio that the cloud is not

poisoneous, and that it is in fact a water steam which was released after

one of the Refinery plants has been bombed. The steam was expanding, and

soon it covered everything - when we looked through the window pane few

minutes later, we saw just white fog, as if the whole world have

disappeared... The local Tv was showing the view from the camera placed on

the tall building in the center of the town, and the screen looked

completely blank. Several hours later, the fog has disappeared... During

the bombing, about 100 workers were inside the plant.Several people were

wounded and two were killed...

In Belgrade, they bombed a large tank with fuel, preserved for the city

central heathing system...Hardly an "military" facility at all, but the

flame was spectacularI guess it looked impressive on CNN?

I saw a Tv report about the yesterday's NATO bombing of another bridge in

Novi Sad... It is a very large bridge, and there were people moving in

cars, bicycles and by foot when the bombs fell... They are still searching

for the bodies in the river of Danube, and those who survived were

describing the horrible, horrible scenes... (Electric wires were falling

down from the upper parts of the bridge...) The aqueduct was connected with

the bridge, so that 1000's of people are now left without running

wather

What there is to say? That seemed like an ordinary day to us. Now when I

think of it I'm horrified...

Regards from

Sasa and Gordana

P.S. I am trying to send this from another computer... My provider is out
of work at the moment, because NATO has bombed some antenae in Belgrade (I
can't understand all the technical details), and they hope to fix it
within 2 days... Send any messages to MY old address [EMAIL PROTECTED] I
will answer when I can

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: NATO Bombing Bridges in Novi Sad

[Mack White]

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(aka Aleksandar Zograf), creator of Alas!, Life Under Sanctions, and
Psychonaut.  He has been witnessing the bombing of Pancevo by NATO.

Mack White
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P.O. Box 49575
Austin, TX  78765

From: "Aleksandar Zograf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sasa Rakezic
P.F.163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia /Serbia/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pancevo.com/~zograf

Hello people -
 Guess what? Yesterday they haven't dropped a single bomb on Pancevo... But
today early in the morning ( 5 AM ) one of the bridges in the city of Novi
Sad was destroyed after the NATO attack... The bridge is very close to the
center of the town  (a couple of hundreds of meters), and only by a
strangest coincidence nobody was hurt...Still, the near by museum and
buildings from the historic part of the town suffered some  demages... The
local bus and individual cars were just about to cross the bridge when the
first projectile did hit the bridge just in front of them, creating a hole
in the concrete... They were sobber enough to turn their vehicles back
before another bomb felt, and - before their eyes - sinked the whole
construction of the bridge into the river of Danube...
Miroslav Mandic, the legendary perfomance artist and writer from Novi Sad,
was in a house next to the bridge. When he heard the crashing sounds  after
the first bomb landed, he came close to the window to see what's happening.
After the second explosion, he was lifted in the air together with the
glass from the window pane...He is a very strong guy, so luckily he wasn't
hurt...
The most famous Miroslav's performance was "The Rose of Wandering" - he
planned to take a trip all over European countries, without using any
vehicle at all - just to walk for 10 years (from 1991 to 2001) , until his
route forms a drawing of a rose on the map of Europe... Unfortunatelly,
after the war in Ex-Yugoslavia had began, he wasn't able to continue with
the project...I've met Miroslav many times, and he certainly is a man
devoted to art and alternative lifestyles, and I hate to think about him
being in a situation like this...
I also spoke to Kebra,  singer and a leader of Obojeni Program, which is
one of the most appreciated bands in Yugoslavia ( Hey, Gordana and I were
even singing "backing vocals" on their last album... We can't sing, but we
yelled when they asked as to do so). Kebra told me that many bombs have
fallen on the different targets in town, but the bridge was some sort of a
simbol for many people in Novi Sad... Biljana, Kebra's sister and a drummer
in another band (Boye), today went to see the remains of the  bridge, and
couldn't hold down the tears...
The rumours are that NATO will bomb the other bridges around Novi Sad
during the raids this nights... Let's hope that these are only the
rumours...
Regards to you all
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Latest Report

[Mack White]

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NOTE:  Following is the latest report from Serbian cartoonist Sasa Rekazic
(aka Aleksandar Zograf), creator of Alas!, Life Under Sanctions, and
Psychonaut.  He has been witnessing the bombing of Pancevo by NATO and is
staying in contact with the international alternative comics community by
e-mail.

Mack White
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Aleksandar Zograf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sasa Rakezic
P.F.163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia /Serbia/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello again -
The state of emergency in our town was announced by the sound of sirens
this morning, and late in the evening while I am writing this ( 11 PM) it
is still on... I was riding my bike today all over town, and haven't
noticed much people running to the shelter or something...
Yesterday early in the morning (about 3 AM) NATO airplans have bombed that
very same Utva Airplane Industry plant  in Pancevo, but this time, as they
reported,  with a new type of projectile - the one which goes UNDER the
ground when it reach the target... Does it means that they are actually
shooting something that is based under the ground there?
The euphoria caused by Serbian forces destroying a freshly designed
"invisible" NATO aircraft F-117 A is still evident. The aircraft felt in
the fields near the small village in a province of Vojvodina, which was
probably the most important event that ever happened in that place... Today
on the national
Tv they  showed a couple of Gypsies taking the pieces of that famous plane
to a scrap metal...
I'm still just drawing sketches for the future comic story which will be
based  on all that we are going through... I hope that later I will have
the time to develope it all and do the drawings  in more relaxed
atmosphere...
Also, I would like to invite the cartoonists worldwide, to send me your
short stories (in English, preferably) about how YOU see the hypothetical
bombing of the town where you are living. Send photocopies only, on the
address above... I guess that if you try to imagine this  event happening
to you, maybe you can understand how we feel at the moment, and you can
share and learn from that experience in a way... What do you think about
this idea? Also, I hope that some of  the publishers will be interested to
publish that sort of the material?
Back to reality, I was thinking about all those different types of
projectiles running all over this country  past week... A woman from a near
by village has told a friend of mine that during the first night of the
bombings she went to her own backyard and saw the strangest sight:
projectile running a dozens of meters above her head, like a flashing
cometh, heading it's way to Pancevo... And all that in a quiet village in
the plains near the sleepy town where nothing really happened for
decades... It was so fantasmagorical.
As if they have read my yesterday's  letter where I mentioned that it is
hard to explain to the children what is going on, the local radio (Radio
Pancevo) started to play every now and them an instruction to the parents
about how to relate to their children during this bombing crisis...
See you in my mind's eye
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: More Bombings, People Confused

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NOTE:  Following is the latest report from Serbian cartoonist Sasa Rekazic
(aka Aleksandar Zograf), creator of Alas!, Life Under Sanctions, and
Psychonaut.  He has been witnessing the bombing of Pancevo by NATO and is
staying in contact with the international alternative comics community by
e-mail.

Mack White
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.swankarmy.net/dutch5/comixnow/

Sasa Rakezic
P.F.163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia /Serbia/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear friends,
Hey, the computer is fixed, so I can type messages directly to you again...
Sorry, but it will take a while before I could answer all the mail... It's
funny, people here seems to be more relaxed at the moment, as they are
getting used to the sound of the NATO aircrafts in the air, even bombing...
It is scary to realize that you can get used to such things after a
while... The usual target in my town ( Utva airplane factory plant, in the
suburban part of Pancevo) was bombed with two projectiles yesterday
evening... Mind you, it is the factory that was producing small planes,
used in agriculture, or for the extermination of mosquito larvaes... As far
as I know, they have never been producing military airplanes, but were able
to fix them  (or some parts, perhaps) at their plant, so maybe that was the
reason why NATO has been bombing that spot so badly ?... Oh, I never was
quite able to understand all those technical things...
The raids are not so much of the news here... The shelters and basements
are mostly full with eldery people, and children... The others prefer to
stay at home, if they are not too close to the "targets", etc. People with
children are really worried, because some of the children are really afraid
by all the situation, and it is very hard to give them some sensible
explanation about what is really going on... In fact, most of the grown-ups
are confused as well
I spoke to Vladimir Nedeljkovic, one of the guys from my "Kitchen" comics
workshop, and a leader of the band called Zontag... His wife is 6 months
pregnant, carrying twins...As soon as the bombing of Pancevo began, they
moved to Vrsac, as it is still a much calmer place... Vladimir told me
that, during one of the NATO attacks,  while his father was in a basement
of his house in Pancevo, the burglars came in and tryed to rob the house...
Vladimir's father took a gun and shot few times in the air, and they ran
away...
The program on the Serbian Tv is changing past few days ( some of the Tv
relays in Southern Serbia were, by the way, destroyed by bombings). I was
disgusted by the propaganda and don't have the heart to watch it, but after
brief inspection  I noticed that now they  are not playing only boring old
Yugoslav war movies, but also European and  American movies ( including
some Disney stuff!), and very popular Mexican soap operas...
One of the funniest things is that they openned International Motor Show in
Belgrade, only a day or two after NATO strikes began...One of the new
models introduced there was a new and improved version of the domestically
produced Yugo car, called (ironicaly!) "Yugo Ciao"! Workers from the city
of Kragujevac, which is supposed to be one of the main targets in the 2nd
wave of NATO bombings, and where this cheap and many times ridiculed
(especially in US!) type of car is prodeuced, decided to make a "living
shield" - 1000's of them are gathering around the Car Factory, willing to
"die with their beloved factory"...
Of course, this is all too ridiculous. Serbia is the country which was
already exhausted by all the turmoils which were happening past 8 years:
civil war in Ex-Yugoslavia, economic sanctions, refugees...People are tired
and confused by all these happenings, and now they are attacked by the
mighty and strong Air Forces coming from  the rich countries, so why is
anybody surprised that they became irrational and bewilderedSerbia  was
a sad sack of the country  before the bombings, and after all, NATO strikes
 will be used as an excuse by the Serbian regime, because  they will say:
Look, this was a beautiful, well-run country, and then the NATO came and
destroyed everything... One of the ironic things is that the props used by
the NATO forces are worth millions of dollars... Every projectile, every
bomb costs 100's of thousands of dollars, and the bombs are dropped on
about 40 targets in Serbia every day... Weren't they able to use even the
smallest percentage of the money to find the non-violent solution of the
conflict? It is something that requires nothing but a  common sense, damn
it, somebody could do it for free!
Greetings
Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist Describes Red Mushroom Cloud

[Mack White]

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NOTE:  Following is the latest e-mail from from Serbian cartoonist Sasa
Rekazic (aka Aleksandar Zograf), creator of Alas!, Life Under Sanctions,
and Psychonaut.  He has been witnessing the bombing of Pancevo by NATO and
is managing to stay in contact with the international comics community
despite his computer being down.

Mack White
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.swankarmy.net/dutch5/comixnow/


March, 28th, 1999 14:00

Dear friends,
my computer is not working at the moment, so I wasn’t able to sen you
e-mails... or to write back to all of yoiu who were so kind enough to
write... I will try to convince a friend who is keen on computers to come
and fix the damn thing! I heard from the others that it is not easy to
connect, anyway...
Yesterday we saw from the window another struke at the same spot at UTVA
airplane factory plant... how will you feel if you see the red mushroom
cloud over your home town? I got to say that – still – it looked pretty
impressive, with a lot of twinkling shiny sparks around... it caused a fire
again, and about 30 houses in the sorroundings were damaged by
detonation... it’s funny – our frined Nandor was in front of his department
building, together with a couple of neighbors... they heard the aircraft,
which fired a missile from someplace over their department building,
straight to UTVA Factory plant... they were about 1 Km from the place of
bombing... it happened at 20.50, last evening...
I’ve been working on a comics workshop since last September, and it is
called ‘kuhinja’ (kitchen), as it is happening every saturday behind the
large table in our kitchen... I gathered a group of cartoonists from
Pancevo, Belgrade and the towns in the sorroundings... the youngest of
them, Vuk Palibrk – 12 years old – called me yesterday, and asked: ‘are we
going to have a workshop this saturday?’ I said ‘No, it’s too complicated,
raids are on during the day, it’s not easy to come to this part of the
town, etc... the other time when that kid made me laugh was when he saw
Julie Doucet, who had an exhibition here in Pancevo only a month before
this madness started... ‘she looks better as a comic character than in real
life’ said Vuk. I’m sure Julie is going to kill the little bastard, as soon
as she gets him!
I spoke to another cartoonist that many of you know – Wostok, he is OK,
they still haven’t dropped any bombs at his native town of Vrsac... at the
day when the strikes began, Wostok made a short video film, with his father
playing STALIN!
Here we are exposed to shameless propaganda on the State TV, it is so
horrible... the regime’s police has closed down two independent Radio
Stations and the Police came into the Radio Pancevo offices, and forced
them to ‘tone down’ their reports, etc...
At the same time, it’s hard to say waht it’s happening, because we are so
badly informed... they said that about 130 people died duiuring the several
days of NATO strikes... could be less, could be more, who knows?
Until soon,

Sasa and Gordana

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: More News from Pancevo

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NOTE:  The following is forwarded from the Comix Discussion List, which
links alternative comics creators, fans,  scholars, and publishers
worldwide.  It is the fourth e-mail from Serbian cartoonist Sasa Rekazic
(aka Aleksandar Zograf), creator of Alas!, Life Under Sanctions, and
Psychonaut.  He has been witnessing the bombing of Pancevo by NATO.

Mack White
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.swankarmy.net/dutch5/comixnow/

Sasa Rakezic writes:

From: "Aleksandar Zograf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sasa Rakezic
P.F.163
26000 Pancevo
Yugoslavia /Serbia/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hey -
I just came back from the center of the town, when the raids began again...
Just a quick note to correct my note from yesterday: postal system IS
working between the raids, this far. So if anyone wants to send snail mail,
it should be OK, well, at least you can try - I don't know if YOUR domestic
post office has some restrictions concerning the mail to Serbia (we are
"enemies", remember?). But yoyu can try, and we will see what's
happening... As far as I know they already bombed some communicational
systems, and I don't know which "phase" of the bombing will include
resources for postal communication etc.
Charles Alverson, the ex-editor of legendary Help! magazine, and the author
of scripts for some movies by Terry Gilliam, lives in Serbia since
1994...He had a slide lecture on Mad and American underground comics  in
Pancevo 7 days ago, and it was great. To all the people who knows him or
his work: Charles and  Zivana are good, and safe - they live in a very
small village in a northern part of Serbia, and there are no military bases
or targets for bombings...
See you later
Sasa and Gordana

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[CTRL] MK-ULTRA's Sidney Gottlieb Dead at 80

[Mack White]

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Wednesday March 10 12:27 PM ET

Supervisor of CIA's LSD Tests Dies

WASHINGTON, Va. (AP) - Sidney Gottlieb, who oversaw CIA experiments during
the Cold War that included the use of LSD and other mind-altering drugs on
unwitting test subjects, has died at age 80.

Gottlieb died Sunday in this small town near the Blue Ridge Mountains where
he had spent his final years tending to dying people in a hospice. His
family withheld the cause of his death.

The CIA experiments with psychedelics, a project called MKUltra, began at a
time when the agency feared the Soviet Union might use LSD as a chemical
weapon or that China would perfect brainwashing techniques.

``We were in a World War II mode,'' John Gittinger, a CIA psychologist who
described Gottlieb as one of the most brilliant men he had ever known, told
The New York Times. ``The war never really ended for us.''

During the 1950s and early '60s, the CIA gave psychedelic drugs to hundreds
of Americans who were unaware that they were part of the agency's
experiments on mind control.

The subjects ranged from prisoners and mental patients to military officers
and college students. At least one subject died, others went insane and
others were damaged psychologically, according to firsthand testimony,
government documents and court records.

Shortly before his retirement in 1972, Gottlieb concluded that the
experiments had been useless.

Gottlieb was also involved in CIA assassination plots, the Times reported.
During the Eisenhower and Kennedy administrations, he carried out orders to
develop a poison handkerchief to kill an Iraqi colonel, toxic gifts for
Fidel Castro and a poison dart to kill a leftist leader in the Congo. None
of the plots succeeded.

After leaving the CIA, Gottlieb and his wife, Margaret, ran a leprosy
hospital in India for 18 months. They bought a small farm near Boston, Va.,
about 10 miles northwest of Culpeper, and indulged in folk dancing and goat
herding, two lifelong hobbies.

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[CTRL] Black Helicopters Over South Texas: Military Defends Missions

[Mack White]

 -Caveat Lector-

   Wednesday, Feb. 17, 1999

   Military defends missions

   Some in area agree; others fear exercises

   By JAMES A. SUYDAM
   Staff Writer

  The Corpus Christi City Council on Tuesday gave a unanimous thumbs-up
   to the mysterious troops in Army helicopters that have been buzzing
the area
   recently.
  "Texas has a long, rich history of supporting the U.S. military,"
Mayor
   Loyd Neal said before the council voted its support for the Special
Forces
   exercises being conducted in the Coastal Bend.
  Two soldiers -- who asked to be identified as J.D. Zumwalt and
Sam Joseph
   -- briefed the council on the operations and addressed several
concerns about
   citizen safety related to the exercises.
  Zumwalt also expressed his exasperation with the conspiracy
theories that
   have been fanned by their helicopters.
  "Sometimes I wish we could paint them red, white and blue and put
a big
   sign on them, `we are the good guys.' " Zumwalt told the council.
"We paint
   them black so that the bad guys can't see us coming. I don't know
what X-Files
   episode started all paranoia about the black helicopters. Those are
American
   pilots with American soldiers who love this country in those
helicopters."
  During the exercises, the soldiers have been seen swooping low over
   residential areas in Annaville, Kingsville and Port Aransas in black
helicopters
   with no lights. The soldiers, wearing black face masks and
night-vision goggles,
   use explosives and sometimes fire live rounds during the exercises,
the soldiers
   said.
  "Our guys have been hurt and even killed during these types of
exercises,"
   Joseph told the council. "But we have never had any significant civilian
   injuries."
  Zumwalt said that 50 to 60 soldiers are involved with the
two-week exercise,
   and that they will be conducting one more operation in the city of
Corpus
   Christi. Zumwalt said that the U.S. Army Special Operations Command
in Fort
   Bragg had received permission from the city for the exercises and
that the
   mayor, City Manager David Garcia and Police Chief Pete Alvarez had been
   informed.
  The unit has encountered problems in other cities where their
operations
   were widely known about, Joseph said.
  "We've had more problems with too many people knowing what's going on
   than not enough," Joseph said.
  In one case, he said, 200 people crowded onto the roof of an
abandoned
   factory to watch the operation, threatening to collapse the roof and
slowing the
   unit's vehicles.
  "The bars emptied all because one guy knew about it and started
telling his
   friends who told their friends who told their friends," Joseph said.
  After several council members asked the soldiers about the
drills, City
   Councilman Ed Martin asked for a vote by the council to show their
support for
   the soldiers. Martin said he felt that the Army was right in not
notifying the
   council.
  "If you would have told us, we would have held a rally or something,"
   Martin said.
  Joseph said that all the Army could offer the city is its thanks for
   cooperating.
  "We're just here for two weeks, we know that. We have nothing to
offer
   you but risk, we know that. The only thing we can give you is our
gratitude,"
   Joseph said.
  Staff writer James A. Suydam can be reached at 886-3618 or by
e-mail at
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Tuesday, we asked what you thought about the Army Special Forces
   training exercises being conducted in the Coastal Bend. Responses
ranged from
   gratitude that the military is training hard to protect the country
to theories that
   the exercises are part of a dark government conspiracy.
   Being an ex-Marine, I know that these training exercises are
necessary. I think
   that if the buns of these people that are doing all the complaining
were on the
   line, they would be more than glad to see these people doing what
they are
   doing.
   Number one, the military has absolutely no business whatsoever
preforming any
   exercises using military equipment -- which is prone to have
accidents -- on any
   civilian property. Number two, above that, they have no business
performing
   their exercises without notifying everybody that lives in that area.
  There's a lot of people out here that I've talked to that thought
something
   went dangerously wrong at Koch Refinery and that we were all getting
ready to
   get blown away or gassed. It shows a totally irresponsibility of
(Mayor) Loyd
   Neal and the police chief to the citizens of Corpus Christi. And I
do very much
   take offense to it and I do take offense to the 

[CTRL] Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing

[Mack White]

 -Caveat Lector-

November 19 1999

Cairo angered by US 'whitewash' to save Boeing

FROM SAM KILEY, MIDDLE EAST CORRESPONDENT, IN CAIRO

THE suggestion that a pilot caused the deaths of 217 passengers on board
the EgyptAir flight has struck at the Egyptian establishment and at an
aristocratic dynasty.

The family of Gamil el-Batouty, who US investigators believe committed
suicide by plunging his Boeing 767 into the Atlantic, vowed that they would
take the fight to clear their name to the highest courts in Egypt and
America.

Kinsmen also issued a warning that, should the allegations prove baseless,
the relationship between Washington and its important Middle East ally
could be damaged.

Mr Batouty's family forms part of a key network that the Americans
cultivated to keep Cairo on side while they simultaneously backed Israel as
their most important strategic partner in the region. The dead co-pilot's
kinsmen included Alaa el-Batouty, the recently retired head of President
Mubarak's personal security service, now in charge of the Egyptian nuclear
programme, and Galal el-Batouty, the head of the Egyptian-American medical
aid programme.

Sources close to Mr Mubarak said yesterday that he had been "incensed" by
the suicide allegations. Although no longer close friends, Mr Mubarak
served as the late Mr Batouty's commanding officer during the 1973 war with
Israel and knew him as a popular air force instructor.

"The President is very angry," one of Mr Mubarak's intimates said. "He said
that this is racism and a whitewash which damages the reputation of the
airline and all Egyptians. Things are very tense with the Americans."

Mr Mubarak's inner circle was stunned that investigators had put forward
the suicide theory before they had got an accurate translation of the
cockpit voice recordings.

The US State Department has attacked what it called "wild" speculation and
far-fetched conspiracy theories about the EgyptAir crash, and has appealed
to government agencies and the media to stop spreading them.

Copyright 1999 Times Newspapers Ltd.

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[CTRL] (3) Austin's Yogurt Shop Murders: Conspiracy?

[Mack White]

 -Caveat Lector-

From the AntiShyster website:

INTERVIEW WITH ATTORNEYS
ERIK MOEBIUS
AND DAVID PARKER

TRANSCRIPT

Christian Patriot Radio Program
February 1996

Talk Show Hosts:
Michael Ellis and Alfred Adask

Part One

ADASK:  We're going to start off with David Parker.  He's a local attorney
in Dallas and I've known David for several years now.  I think the first
time we met was back, maybe three years ago.  About that time when you were
helping me when I did a series of articles on Cliff Lane who had been
beaten up badly in the bankruptcy courts and everything indicated he'd been
robbed essentially of about $50 million in the bankruptcy courts.  And
Cliff Lane, the guy introduced me to you and you as an attorney that were
helping Mr. Lane and also endeavoring to expose the injustice in the
bankruptcy courts.  You've been at that for I don't know how many years,
but three anyway now that I'm aware of.  David is one of the guys that
probably they should have never let into the Bar.  What I mean by that is
you could tell he was a troublemaker, the Bar should have known he was a
troublemaker because he didn't go to law school right out of college.  He
went into the army for a while.  Fell off the wagon. How old were you when
you got your law degree?

PARKER:  I was close to 30.

ADASK:  I understand.  See, that's trouble.  It's a lot easier if you can
run with people -every time I run into a maverick, I won't say every time,
but the majority of instances is one of these attorneys who didn't go right
out of college, they went into the real world for a while, came back.  I'm
sure the Bar regrets deeply that they ever let anybody in there that missed
a semester.  David has brought to my attention another attorney, our second
guest-Erik Moebius from Houston.  David, why don't you go ahead and run
with the introduction on this and give us an idea of what we're talking
about.

PARKER:  My pleasure.  It's really nice to be here and great to be on the
show.  Erik is an unusual lawyer in the sense that he encountered
corruption in the legal process and wanted to do something about it and I
think that's a little bit unusual.  Once he started, it was a long path.
He's been in this litigation for a number of years and he started having
problems with the State Bar and they continued on a process to disbar him
which they ultimately did a few months ago.  His story is intriguing.  He
probably tells it better than I.  It's important to remember though that
Erik was a normal lawyer before all this happened.  He had worked for the
attorney general's office for a number of years.  He was a good litigation
and he has a wife and a family.  He thought he was doing a good job in the
legal process and actually like I when you stumble upon this corruption you
think you're going to get a medal for exposing it.  Instead you get a heel
on the back of your neck and quite a few problems after that.  I think Erik
though probably can better explain everything that's happened.

ADASK:  Let me just make one point to make sure I understand, see if I got
this right.  Erik, you were an assistant attorney general for the state of
Texas for 5 years?  Is that true?

MOEBIUS:  That's correct.  I was a litigation for the highway department.

ADASK:  Just so you folks understand that we're not just-Erik has some
credentials behind him and this is not just an exercise in wishful
thinking.  We've got a credible individual here who will also be speaking
tomorrow night, and I believe perhaps providing at least verbal you'll get
the story in greater detail tomorrow night, an opportunity to ask questions
and perhaps even some evidence.  I don’'t know if you're bringing any paper
work along so people can have a look at it.  In any case, come on down to
our meeting tomorrow night.  This is Erik Moebius.

MOEBIUS:  Let me tell you that when I first came out of law school I worked
for the Ft. Worth Court of Appeals, as a briefing attorney.  Anything
coming up from the trial court that would have an appeal.  That gives an
attorney a good look at the appellate process and also at the judicial
process because you are in effect working with judges.  As a result of an
opinion I wrote dealing with extending a statute of limitations for
illegitimate children to find their parents, I was offered a job at the
attorney general's office.  In the mixed up way that things go, I went down
there and I ended up in the Highway Division which is a very heavy
litigation division.  Now I like that and this is a big state and under the
tort claims act attorneys like Randy Hill who's now an attorney here in
Dallas but he and I were assistant attorney generals at the same time.  We
would travel to the areas where the injuries or deaths occurred and
litigate the cases.  So we've been to cases like El Paso Junction, Bexar,
Houston, Ft. Worth . . .

ADASK:  More important than that, you're not simply researcher, you're a
litigation.

MOEBIUS:  Yes.  I was a senior litigation with 

[CTRL] (4) Austin's Yogurt Shop Murders: Conspiracy?

[Mack White]

 -Caveat Lector-

NOTE:  Roy Q. Minton, the lawyer in the Yogurt Shop case described in the
preceding documents by lawyer Erik Moebius, is also the Austin lawyer for
Freeport McMoRan.  The three articles below will suffice to provide a
general description of Freeport McMoRan and the company it keeps:

From Corporate Watch:

Suhartless

November 24 - 30, 1998
Andrew Hsiao  Jason Vest
Press Clips, Village Voice

Though hardly a maverick act of moral courage, The New York Times did
manage to editorialize on Saturday in favor of a faster path to civil
rights in post-Suharto Indonesia.  "[President B.J.] Habibie and his
political allies want the army to retain its hand in selecting presidents
for 5 to 10 more years," said the paper. "A quicker, cleaner transition to
full civilian democracy is needed, and Washington should not be shy about
saying so."

This was a refreshing sentiment from the Times, considering a previous
Nicolas Kristof dispatch, in which the erstwhile Tokyo bureau chief
characterized the Indonesian Army as "the institution that used to keep the
passengers in the back seat and maintain order"-rather than as the
genocidal legion of murderous thugs they are.

Nonetheless, the Times didn't inquire as to the likelihood of Washington
putting the screws to Habibie. Maybe that's because the chances are slim,
in part because of the extraordinary and baleful influence of an American
multinational: New Orleans mining behemoth and Suharto ally Freeport
McMoRan Copper and Gold. Not unlike Chiquita in Honduras, Freeport-through
a combination of lobbying and campaign donations over the past two
decades-has helped ensure that U.S. policy supported the corrupt Indonesian
status quo. Now, Freeport has an apparent friend in Robert Livingston, the
new Speaker of the House.

And yet Freeport has been given a free ride in much of our elite press,
even as riots have propelled Indonsesia to the front pages. Since Suharto's
fall in May, both the Times and the Washington Post have devoted only a
single passing reference to the company.

Indonesia briefly captured the media's imagination in 1996, amid
allegations that the country's oligarchy had sought to curry favor with the
White House-via massive illicit contributions from the wealthy Riady
family's Lippo Group to the DNC. But in an excellent November 1996 two-part
series, the Journal of Commerce's Tim Shorrock showed that Freeport and
other U.S. corporations with Indonesian interests were far more able agents
of political influence than their Indonesian counterparts. Freeport was the
first U.S. company to set up shop in Indonesia and, with the government, it
now runs the world's largest gold mine and third largest copper mine, both
located in army-occupied Irian Jaya.

Freeport's CEO, James "Jim Bob" Moffett, was a golfing partner of
Suharto's, while one of the men who gave Suharto the green light to embark
on the murderous conquest of East Timor-Henry Kissinger-sits on Freeport's
board. So, too, does J. Bennett Johnston, who, while a Louisiana senator,
made sure Congress did little to impede the flow of arms to Jim Bob's
despotic putting-green partner. The company has also doled out well over $1
million in campaign contributions to both parties since 1980.

Despite Jim Bob's long public affiliation with Suharto, the Singapore
Business Times reported earlier this year that Freeport McMoRan
"categorically denied any association with former president Suharto," and
that reports "accusing the company of links through collusion and nepotism
to the former first family were untrue." Last month, however, the Wall
Street Journal's Peter Waldman described Freeport's Indonesian operations
as "a study in how multinational companies adapted to the crony capitalism"
that was a hallmark of the Suharto era. And in the September 7/14 issue of
The Nation, Robert Bryce reported on two unique loan arrangements between
Freeport and Indonesian companies-one belonging to Suharto's labor
minister, the other involving Suharto and longtime crony Bob Hasan.

The Jakarta Post and other regional papers have been carrying regular news
about recent Habibie government investigations, however modest, into the
Freeport-Suharto connection. The Indonesian Observer, for example, reported
on November 18 that "the wealth of Suharto's cronies in Irian Jaya is
believed to be mostly invested in enterprises serving as contractors to...
Freeport." Cited as exhibit A: Bob Hasan, who "apparently held a virtual
monopoly on the supply of food" to Freeport's 28¢-an-hour workers.

Meanwhile, Livingston has taken thousands of dollars from Freeport in
recent years. In 1995, Freeport used its Washington juice-Kissinger, ex-CIA
director James Woolsey, and others-to get its political risk insurance
policy reinstated, after the policy had been axed because of the company's
"substantial adverse environmental impacts" in Irian Jaya. Now Indonesian
activists are asking what Freeport will get from Livingston-even if U.S.

[CTRL] (0) Austin's Yogurt Shop Murders: Conspiracy?

[Mack White]

 -Caveat Lector-

The following articles are currently receiving wide circulation by e-mail
in Austin, Texas.  The allegations are explosive, with implications that
reach far beyond this city.

Part 1 is an article by Seattle lawyer Erik Moebius (formerly of Austin),
which describes "reserve" insurance fraud and alleges this was the motive
for the Yogurt Shop murders.

Part 2 contains correspondence and affidavits concerning recent
developments in the case--among them allegations that police coerced
confessions from the four young defendants.

Part 3 is the transcript of a radio interview with Erik Moebius which
provides more background on the case.

Part 4 contains articles on Freeport McMoRan, a CIA-connected company
represented in Austin by lawyer Roy Q. Minton, whom Moebius alleges set up
the Yogurt Shop murders to generate a cash flow which could be laundered
with drug money.

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[CTRL] (1) Austin's Yogurt Shop Murders: Conspiracy?

[Mack White]

 -Caveat Lector-

From the AntiShyster website:

The Bar, Insurance Fraud and Murder

by Erik Moebius

Editor's Note:  This next article is an amalgam of comments made on a radio
program (the "Christian-Patriot Connection", KPBC-770 AM, Dallas, Texas in
which I and Michael Ellis interviewed
attorneys Erik Moebius, David Parker, and Nick Milum) and a 207-page
article written by Erik Moebius.
The complete text of the radio interview and Mr. Moebius' article can be
read or downloaded from the
"News" sub-section from the AntiShyster Internet website located at
"www.antishyster.com".  Although
I've edited and reorganized this article, Mr. Moebius is the principal
source of virtually all of the
comments and is therefore credited as its author.

Erik Moebius has been a lawyer for fifteen years and served for five years
as a Texas Assistant AttorneyGeneral.  The man is credible; his story is
too fantastic to be fictional.  Although I believe his allegations are
essentially true, I don't know them to be precisely accurate.  Therefore,
this article is presented only to provide the reader with an opportunity to
consider Mr. Moebius' extraordinary public allegations.  However, as
another journalist pointed out, if just 10% of Mr. Moebius' allegations are
true, they deserve a very serious investigation.  In fact, if all of his
allegations are true, they will cause a fire storm of public anger,
investigation, criminal indictments, and perhaps a massive reform of the
courts and insurance industry.  Mr. Moebius' allegations are complex.  Read
them anyway-they are important.  I guarantee this article offers some
unimaginably chilling insights imaginable into the underbelly of our legal
system and the insurance business.

According to Mr. Moebius, "reserve fraud" depends on several elements:

1. Unlike conventional insurance companies, mutual insurance companies have
policy-holders but no public stockholders.  Therefore, mutual insurance
companies are not subject to the rules, oversight, or investigations of the
U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.

2. When an injured party files a claim against a mutual insurance company,
the amount of money that might be paid on the claim is removed from the
insurance company's profit account and placed in their "reserve account"
until the claim is settled.  At any given time, a reserve account can
contain millions of dollars.  If the money is paid to the
claimant, it is deducted from the reserve account as an untaxed business
expense.  If the claim is denied, the money is taken from the reserve
account and restored to the profit account.

3. At the end of the year,  mutual insurance companies pays taxes on
whatever money is left in their profit accounts, and return the balance to
their policy holders in the form of reduced premiums or cash rebates.
Although a particular company may have generated millions of dollars in
profits, those  profits are not generally available to the
company's owners and executives.  Being denied easy access to millions of
dollars in profits can make some owners and executives jealous, frustrated,
and greedy.

4. Money paid out for insurance claims is reported as legitimate business
deductions by insurance companies to State and federal taxing authorities.
However, because money won in court is not taxable -- there is also no tax
reporting requirement for the recipient of those funds.  A criminal
opportunity is created because insurance money paid out is reported but
insurance money received is not reported, and because there is minimum
public oversight for mutual insurance companies.

Mr. Moebius alleges that coalitions of lawyers, judges, and mutual
insurance company executives have devised a scheme to extort enormous sums
of money from the insurance company "reserve funds" by (1) finding-or
causing-catastrophic accidents (often involving the deaths of children);
(2) "separating" the plaintiffs from their legitimate claim against the
mutual insurance company,; and (3) secretly processing the claim and
dividing the proceeds among the conspirators without paying one dime to the
legitimate plaintiff.  The "genius" of this reserve fraud scheme is that
just one or two catastrophic accidents per year are enough to extort tens
of millions of dollars that should legally go to the IRS as taxes and the
policy-holders as rebates.  Further, if enough money is extorted, the
insurance company may be able to report a loss for the year and justify
raising its insurance premiums and thereby generating an even larger sum of
money to be extorted in the next year.

Since Mr. Moebius started making these allegations, the State Bar of Texas
has reportedly tried to disbar him twelve times.  Failing to disbar him, a
judge has recently "enjoined" him from practicing law (he's still licensed,
but can't practice law without being jailed for contempt).  He has been
fined $175,000 -- nine times more than any other attorney he can find --
for attempting to