[CTRL] Masonic Infiltration at British Police Investigated

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Masonic Infiltration of British Police Investigated

The English press reported in February, 1998 that the leaders of Britain's
Freemasons have been ordered to lift the cloak of secrecy surrounding their
organization and name members involved in infiltrating and corrupting the
police.

The United Grand Lodge of England is the target of a Parliamentary probe
seeking to register Freemasons who are employed as police officers.
Parliament asked the Grand Lodge last summer to identify which of 161
people involved in a series of notorious police scandals - including
setting up innocent people for bombings and a shoot-to-kill, vigilante
police squad - were Masons.

The United Grand Lodge, which says it has found only ten possible Masons on
the list, refused.

Martin Short, author of a study of Freemasonry, "Inside the Brotherhood,"
said: "The idea that a parliamentary committee should be calling the Masons
to account in quite this peremptory manner is astonishing. If you go back
thirty, twenty or even ten years it is inconceivable this would have
happened."

There are 340,000 Freemasons in England and Wales, and their influence
reaches into the British Royal Family.

The masonic committee that must decide how to respond to the Parliamentary
order includes the elite of the aristocracy of Britain: Duke of Kent, the
Grand Master; Lord Farnham, a pro-Grand Master. Also the retired Court of
Appeals judge, Sir John Balcombe; and Judge John Sessions, a Judge Advocate
of the Fleet.

Chris Mullin, the Member of Parliament (MP) who has taken a close interest
in the case since before he became an MP in 1987, said: "It is obvious that
the powers of the committee are being challenged...We cannot come to a
conclusion until we see who was a Mason," he said.

Mullin said that 96 of the 161 names on the list presented to the United
Grand Lodge were former members of the West Midlands Serious Crime Squad,
which was disbanded in 1989 for corruption.

About 60 - including some journalists - were involved with the
investigation that led to the wrongful bombing conviction of the Irish
Birmingham Six.

Seven were involved in investigating Stalker, the former Deputy Chief
Constable of Greater Manchester who was suspended in 1986 while conducting
an inquiry into shoot-to-kill allegations against the police in Northern
Ireland.

The committee had been told by police officers - including Masons - that
Freemasons had operated within the squad as "firms within firms".

Masonic Commander Michael Higham said that there was a good deal of anger
about the slur on their integrity. "We know we have a few bad apples, the
rest of ordinary Freemasons are decent chaps," he said.

Mr Higham added that Masons would not necessarily know who was a fellow
member, since secret signs of recognition were not used promiscuously.
"People don't stand around in strange attitudes waiting to be recognized as
Freemasons." He refused to demonstrate the signs, saying: "I promised I
would not."

If the United Grand Lodge refuses to hand over the names, the committee
could report he apparent contempt to the Speaker, who could invite the
House to deal with the issue as a matter of privilege in which there was
prima facie evidence that the Freemasons had interfered with the business
of the House.

Higham, joined the Navy in 1954 and was called to the Bar in 1968. He
retired from the Navy in 1977 and in that year joined Freemasons Hall in
Great Queen Street, London, as principal assistant to the grand secretary.
Mr Higham, 62, became grand secretary in 1980. He had been due to stay in
the post until 2001 but is leaving this year allegedly due to a "falling
out" with his Lodge

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[CTRL] Nazis=Christians=whores=goyim

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   Shavuot Pogrom: "Nazis, Christians, Whores and Goyim"

The following N.Y. Times article mentions the attack orthodox khazars
perpetrated against Palestinians on the Jewish "Shavuot" holiday.

But the main focus of the article is the attack by the orthodox khazars
against liberal khazars (who are termed "Conservative and Reform"). Note
the headline: "...Assault Other Jews..."

If the N.Y. Times was honest the headline would read, "Israelis Launch
Pogrom Against Palestinians," but the whole terminology ("pogrom,
concentration camp, war crime, holocaust") has become a liturgical
phenomenon of Jewish theology and hence cannot be applied to anyone other
than the Holy People without violating a taboo, which the N.Y. Times, which
benefits from the sacerdotal aura of mystification which surrounds the
Shoah-business ("Shoah" is the Jewish theological term for the holohoax),
is not wont to do. (There's no business like Shoah business).

However, the fact is, the orthodox Israelis launched a pogrom against
Palestinians, beating them en masse and destroying their vehicles (such
pogroms against Palestinians are a routine occurrence in occupied
Palestine) and this should have been the chief focus of the article.

At least one snippet of truth sneaked through the Pharisees' filters
however, the fact of a most interesting Talmudic equation (the orthodox
khazars are hardcore Talmudists) of Nazis=Christians=whores=goyim (i.e.
non-Jews).

This will be news to the millions of naive non-Jews who believe that by
siding with Zionists and Talmudists they will be exempt from Jewish
vengeance and racism.

The best book on Jewish hatred of women is "The Hole in the Sheet," by
Evelyn Kaye. The best book on Jewish hatred of 'goyim' is "Jewish History,
Jewish Religion," by Israel Shahak.

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Jews" is not the Torah [Old Testament] but rather, the Traditions of the
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Orthodox Israelis Assault Other Jews at Western Wall

By SERGE SCHMEMANN

[J] ERUSALEM -- Conservative Jewish men and women who tried to pray
together at the Western Wall during the Shavuot holiday early Wednesday
morning said Thursday that they had been assaulted by hundreds of
rigorously Orthodox men evidently incensed by the sight of women praying
with men.

The Conservatives said the strictly Orthodox Jews, known more commonly as
the haredim, had spat on them and pelted them with garbage and feces, while
calling them "Nazis," "Christians," "whores" and "goyim."

The police said that after the prayers some haredi youths went on to smash
Palestinian cars outside one gate to the Old City, while others gathered at
Damascus Gate and attacked Palestinian passers-by. The police said several
of the haredim had sprayed tear gas and thrown stones at the police and at
Palestinians.

The incidents were not the first of their kind after mass prayers at the
Western Wall, but by all accounts they were the most violent to date.

They reflected the growing assertiveness of strictly Orthodox Jews since
their success in elections a year ago -- when they won 10 seats in
Parliament and a critical bloc in the government coalition -- and in
particular the increasingly bitter confrontation between the haredim and
the Conservative and Reform movements.

The two modern movements claim relatively few adherents in Israel, but
account for 84 percent of the Jews in the United States, so the dispute has
in effect pitted American Jews against the Orthodox rabbis in Israel.

The focus of that confrontation is a bill the haredim have introduced in
Parliament that would formalize the monopoly of the Orthodox rabbis in
performing conversions to Judaism in Israel -- an act that also grants the
convert the right to Israeli citizenship under the Law of Return.

But the haredim have also been increasingly militant in challenging the
Conservative and Reform faithful directly, especially on the issue of
equality for women. In Orthodox practice, women are not permitted to pray
with men, be heard during prayers or read the Torah at services.

Shavuot is a holiday that commemorates Moses giving the law to the
Israelites, on which observant Jews spend much of the night studying
scripture.

About 30,000 Jews, most of them haredim, gathered at the Western Wall
starting on Tuesday night. Rabbi Andrew Sachs, the director of the
Rabbinical Assembly in Israel, an organization of Conservative rabbis, said
he arrived at the wall with a 

[CTRL] The Jewish Mentality Book I (c) by Michael Hoffman II

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Turning the Tables: A Revaluation

All learning is based upon curiosity and curiosity is the unfettered
exploration of that which is interesting. The weird halo of immunity which
surrounds the Jewish nation is a highly interesting sanction and no scholar
must be faulted for defying it. To pretend that we must approach the Jewish
studies with some special reverence and reserve, fearful of causing
offense, is a totalitarian expectation.

It will undoubtedly be the first reaction of a mind-zapped populace to
immediately regard the investigation of the negative factors within the
religion of Judaism as a horrible one, "bound to lead to another
'Holocaust."

That the fanatical chauvinism of Jewish partisanship has been absorbed into
the body politic of the masses of non-Jews to such an overwhelming extent
is a high tribute to the power and effectiveness of Jewish propaganda.

But this writing is not an attack but a defense. Khazars attack
Christianity every week in a newspaper column, magazine article, radio
report, film, television show or book. Few people regard such attacks as a
prelude to the further decay and eventual destruction of the Gentile people
of the West. Such Jewish attacks on Christianity are regarded as the
"normal criticism" any creed must endure at the hands of truth-seekers,
scientists and dispassionate scholars.

Within this framework is the presumption of immunity for Judaism. According
to the mindset promoted by the System's public schools and private
universities and the Established "media" organs of mass communication,
Judaism alone among the religions of the world is immune from scholarly
criticism. First because it is perfect, being the creed of God's Master or
"Chosen" Race and second because, even if it were as flawed to the degree
that secular agnosticism asserts that every religion is flawed, it would
still be wrong to expose it as such because to do so will lead to another
"Holocaust."

If one looks beneath the sham appearances of this late 20th century, that
is to say beyond the shuttered provincialism of Jew-worship, one glimpses
the outlines of war. A relentless libel is directed at the Christian West,
or what remains of it in the ruins, in the aftermath of a half-century of
constant propaganda against it. It must be relentless to insure that no
smoldering spark shall leap up to illuminate the perpetual dark night of
the modern era.

The story of the crucifixion of an honest man at the behest of the Jewish
religious and political leadership, whose heroic committment to the truth
above all else, testified to his divine patrimony, has been for 2,000 years
a permanent stumbling block to the ascendance of Jewish world supremacy.
Therefore every attack upon the historical reality of this story and the
person and morality of Jesus has been launched by the Khazars.

Where that has proved insufficient, the new state religion of "Holocaust"
Newspeak (absent from dictionaries before 1978) has been established by all
Western governments and by all hireling priests and preachers. By this
means Auschwitz is made to replace Calvary as the axis mundi of Western
history. Though the tale of the destruction of the Khazars during World War
Two has been wildly and shamelessly exaggerated out of all proportion to
what actually occurred in that time, there is no doubt that Jewish people
were murdered in the hundreds of thousands and that this was a horrible
crime.

But what is never factored into the equation as the indictment of the West
is prepared on this basis, is the fact that Hitler and his National
Socialist German Worker's Party rose to a fury of indignation against
Jewish people directly as a result of what Jewish communists like Trotsky
(actual name: Leon Bronstein) and Lenin and the thoroughly-Jewish Bolshevik
communist party in Moscow had done to the Christian peasantry of Mother
Russia, which the Germans regarded as every inch a "holocaust." (The Jewish
extraction of Lenin's mother has long been known to many Russian historians
and party bureaucrats with access to inside information. Cf. "Who was a
Jew? Why, Lenin of Course!", Jerusalem Post International Edition, Jan. 26,
1991, and Dimitry Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography).

Both the Jewish 

Re: [CTRL] Blavatsky's Secret Doctrine

1999-12-04 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Leaders and Founders of Satanic Cults

 Aleister Crowley, 33rd  97th Degree Freemason, self proclaimed 666
 Beast, taught human sacrafice, wicked Satan worshipper and master satanist
 of this century

 Gerald B. Gardner, founder of the modern Wiccan (white witchcraft) revival

 Dr. Wynn Westcott, member of the Societas Rosicruciana and founding
 member of the occult Order of the Golden Dawn

 Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, female co-freemason, wicked satanist, occult
 leader and co-founder of the Theosophical Society. Wrote occult classics
 entitled 'The Secret Doctrine' and 'Isis Unveiled' which state "It is Satan who
 is the God of our planet and the only God. Lucifer
 
represents...Life...Thought...Progress...Civilization...Liberty...Independance...Lucifer
 is the Logos...the Serpent, the Savior". I have recieved evidence that this
 book is issued inside Masonic Lodge libraries and is being read by Masons
 and will present the proof soon.


On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 22:03:30 -0800, Tenorlove wrote:

Thank you Peter. I've been looking for a copy of Secret Doctrine for
years.

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Re: [CTRL] WTO, Sleepless in Seattle

1999-12-03 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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I agree. The same for Brazil.

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 02:50:56 -0500, YnrChyldzWyld wrote:

This country was FOUNDED via violence, and emerged as a world power via
violence...

Every major political and social change in this country only came about
as a result of violence...

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Re: [CTRL] False century change / Good work on Angels

1999-12-03 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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:-( The $$ is 'god' of these persons. It all they think: profit.

Other subject which I dont find nothing really good: Angels.

I found one text, but it is much New Age, I wanted something with
an approach more traditional.

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 05:09:06 -0800, Tenorlove wrote:

You got it, Rodrigo. How else can the Illuminati sell all the Y2K
paraphernalia, and jack up prices on generators, guns, porta potties,
kerosene lanterns, etc.? It's all marketing, dear, all marketing.

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: NSA patent 5937422

1999-12-03 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Hey, this text ring a bell here. :) Even after hear that
being talked I find much interesting.

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 07:52:31 -0600, K wrote:

 By Suelette Dreyfus
 Special Correspondent
 CyberWire Dispatch

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[CTRL] Fwd: [spynews] Christianity is a hate crime to some

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Christianity is a "hate crime" to some
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The top story on WorldNetDaily today asks
the rhetorical question: Is Christianity a 'hate crime'?

The answer: You bet it is -- to some people. Of the anti-Christian groups
who believe this way, the agenda to stop Christian evangelism is running at
a feverish pace.

It is believed that those who hate Christianity may sense an eminent urgency
with the coming of the new millennium. Many of the individuals and groups
who hold such hatred towards Christians have set out to malign Christians
with false statements and baseless allegations in hopes that this will
accomplish their goals.

Others in the radical-left Anti-Christ group have read Biblical accounts of
the anticipated return of Christ as prophesied by Jesus and Daniel; an event
which could possibly take place within the very near future. They understand
that, as the prophesy goes, all wickedness will at that time be done away
with, and good will triumph over evil. Some of the followers of these
left-wing extremist teachings believe they can somehow forestall their
eternal judgement by winning over as many new converts as possible before
the end comes.

The immediate issue in the WND report is the Southern Baptist's plan to hold
its annual Missionary Convention in Chicago next Summer. But the Council of
Religious Leaders of Metropolitan Chicago sent a letter to the Southern
Baptist leadership asking them to consider moving their convention
elsewhere, citing their perceived threat of "violence" which might, they
contend, be instigated against "non-believers" and minorities as a
consequence of the onslaught of Christian missionaries.

Among the council's members is Bishop C. Joseph Sprague who represents 425
United Methodist Churches in the Northern Illinois Conference.

WorldNetDaily attributes Sprague with saying, "the problem is that
proselytizing with the kind of attitude that one group is saved, while
another is in need of saving, can provide 'fodder' for deranged or demonized
persons to attack religious minorities." And, "to suggest that other
religious groups are second-class citizens can be dangerous, because it
feeds into the ideology of hate groups."

Sprague is also reported as saying: "When it comes to Christian views on
homosexuality, the prohibition against proselytizing is even stronger." And
that "Christians who treat homosexuals as second-class citizens are setting
them up for persecution in a 'fear-ridden society'."

This story ties in directly with the recent FBI Project Megiddo report. The
inflammatory attacks and derogatory remarks made about Christians in the
government report mirror the same kind of anti-Christian sentiment expressed
by the Bishop in Illinois. The Project Megiddo report profiles Christian
beliefs and categorically associates these with criminal, bigoted acts of
violence. The report's false implications are based largely upon the same
kinds of spurious allegations as have been attributed to Bishop Sprague.

It's important that the reader make the connection between the two, the
Project Megiddo report and the attack against the Southern Baptists.

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[CTRL] Secret movements, revolutions the take-over

1999-12-03 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Dont know why but it remember me doctrine "Thesis, Antithesis  Synthesis".

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"The political development of these secret movements is always by gradual
stages, culminating in revolution is always by gradual stages, culminating
in revolution as a preparation for world domination by their hidden
directors...the required development in India, attempted a pseudo-revival
of Hinduism and later the establishment of a World Teacher, mouthpiece of
her (Mme Blavatsky) hidden directors, entirely anti-Christian; further, her
social and educational work led inevitably to politics, the disintegrating
so-called Nationalism." (The Trail of the Serpent, Miss Stoddard, pp.
181-182).

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Re: [CTRL] Seattle: ADM hires shills?

1999-12-03 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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How time which I see it stay worse. :( Where's the answer?

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:57:57 -0500, Tatman, Robert wrote:

This report of ADM, Pepsi, and other multinationals hiring "demonstrators"
to act out for the news cameras in Seattle bears out what I have been saying
all along: the Oligarchy is determined to discredit the progressive
coalition by any means necessary. Forget COINTELPRO--the corporations are
now bypassing the "official" law enforcement agencies and are hiring their
agents provocateurs directly. Welcome to the 21st Century.

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[CTRL] False century change

1999-12-02 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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All know (or should know :) the 3rd millenium start at 1/1/2001, not 1/1/2000.

Why the media *stimulates* the wrong? I bet the Illuminati have a finger at that.

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[CTRL] Quote

1999-12-02 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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"The term Internationalism has been popularized in recent years to cover an
interlocking financial, political, and economic world force for the purpose
of establishing a World Government. Today Internationalism is heralded from
pulpit and platform as a 'League of Nations' or a 'Federated Union' to
which the United States must surrender a definite part of its National
Sovereignty. The World Government plan is being advocated under such
alluring names as the 'New International Order,' 'The New World Order,'
'World Union Now,' 'World Commonwealth of Nations,' 'World Community,' etc.
All the terms have the same objective; however, the line of approach may be
religious or political according to the taste or training of the
individual." -- excerpt from A Memorial to be Addressed to the House of
Bishops and the House of Clerical and Lay Deputies of the Protestant
Episcopal Church in General Convention (October 1940)

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[CTRL] Link

1999-12-01 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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A good site: http://www.wpww.com/

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Re: [CTRL] New Book Challenges Theories of AIDS Origins

1999-12-01 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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It is not real. The AIDS disease is for eliminate "useless eaters".

On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 14:39:55 +0200, Taylor, John (JH) wrote:

Is AIDS a disaster inadvertently brought on by humans that arose from early
testing of a polio vaccine in Africa in the 1950's?

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[CTRL] Quote

1999-12-01 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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"If there are those who think we are to jump immediately into a new world
order, actuated by complete understanding and brotherly love, they are
doomed to disappointment. If we are ever to approach that time, it will be
after patient and persistent effort of long duration. The present
international situation of mistrust and fear can only be corrected by a
formula of equal status, continuously applied, to every phase of
international contacts, until the cobwebs of the old order are brushed out
of the minds of the people of all lands." -- Dr. Augustus O. Thomas,
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quoted in the book "International Understanding: Agencies Educating for a
New World" (1931)

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Re: [CTRL] Link

1999-12-01 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Seem strange dont make nothing bs.

On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:48:10 EST, Kris Millegan wrote:

In a message dated 12/1/99 5:18:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 A good site: http://www.wpww.com/ 

Not in MHO. Seems to be a divisive pile of bs.

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[CTRL] Link

1999-12-01 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Another good site: http://jewwatch.com/

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Re: [CTRL] Link

1999-12-01 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Do you is joking?!

On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 13:25:57 -0500, David Rupp wrote:

David: That was interesting, Rodrigo. I just found this site:
http://www.jewkid.com/. It turns out those Jews are actually having sex. Now
we know where they're all coming from. What do you suggest we do about it?

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Re: [CTRL] Link

1999-12-01 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Hatred no, TRUTH. Or you find which some forged all that data? You IS joking.

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David: If you mean "Am I joking?!" the answer is that I believe humor is the
best antidote to the hatred found in those web sites you recommended. Or do
*you* is joking?! If so, I apologize for thinking you meant those web sites
were worthy of serious consideration.

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Re: [CTRL] Why I am not a Homophobe

1999-11-29 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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'Stupid people let other people think for them' because they believe in Bible?

BS.

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:42:18 -0800, nessie wrote:

at gun point to obey men who died before I was born. Stupid people let
other people think for them. Really stupid people let dead people think

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Re: [CTRL] Why I am not a Homophobe

1999-11-29 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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BS. It is NOT, I repeat NOT IS superstition.

On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:32:31 -0500, YnrChyldzWyld wrote:

Fine.  You have the right to practice the superstition of your choice, as

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Re: [CTRL] Why I am not a Homophobe

1999-11-29 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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FYI, 'giants' are the nephilim.

On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:37:02 -0500, YnrChyldzWyld wrote:

Which says nothing of homosexuality nor of the nephilim...

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Re: [CTRL] Holocaust Revisionism Left and Right - Mark Evans

1999-11-29 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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The same thing happens to the "Jew Holocaust". Indeed,
74,000 died  it is proven by Russian documents.

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I think we are missing an important point here. And that point is not, as
Mr. YK says on [EMAIL PROTECTED] that 60 million Aryan-Christians were
"holocausted" by Jews and their ilk in Russia and surrounding regions
starting with Trotsky-Bronstein in 1917. It is whether the peasant masses in
the great freedom loving Peoples' Democratic Republic of USA have the right
to speak freely on this subject and DARE TO DENY THAT 60 MILLION REALLY
DIED. So it gets down to "Totem and Taboo in Bongo Bongo Land South".

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Re: [CTRL] Why I am not a Homophobe

1999-11-29 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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BULLSHIT!!! Jesus Christ condemned the practices of Phariseus
(today are the Zionists)  you dont want understand simplest things.

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:42:43 -0500, YnrChyldzWyld wrote:

You worship the ghost of a Jew executed for treason 2000 years ago...

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Re: [CTRL] Why I am not a Homophobe

1999-11-29 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Yeah, Kris, it is offtopic  therefore it is already dropped.

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 21:49:04 EST, Kris Millegan wrote:

Let us please drop it an get on with the subject at hand.

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Re: [CTRL] Why I am not a Homophobe

1999-11-28 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:01:03 -0800, nessie wrote:

If Buddhism is a religion, Marxism is a religion. True, both lack dieties,
but  so what? A religion doesn't have to have dieties to be a religion as
long as it has dogma, jargon, cosmology, believers, a priesthood, a
liturgy, and a method for extracting money from its followers.

MMmmm... True! :-)

Satan is not a Marxist concept. Satan is a Christian and Muslim concept.
They both  learned it from Jews. Jews learned it from Zoarastrians. If
you're incapable of comprehending a world beyond duelism, at least try the
Buddhist/Confucian/Taoist concept of dualism. It's just as limiting a
concept, as are all single concepts, but at least it makes sense insofar
as that it has emperically validatable reality in the physical (i.e. real)
world.

For me, Christic consciousness (or Christian Religion) is THE Religion.

Christ have a profoundness is IMPOSSIBLE for me try extern for myself
with mhy rude english but I understand which I dont understand it for
100% (in portuguese; in english, no comments :). I am Christian by
that: I am believe in He. Simple  misteryous: a paradox? :-) Simple,
it IS a paradox. :)

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[CTRL] Dolores Cannon interpretation of Nostradamus - FAQ

1999-11-28 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Archive-name: nostradamus/part1
Version: 1.0
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FAQ: the Prophecies of Nostradamus
===

Introduction (part 1)

a. Introduction: _Conversations with Nostradamus_ by Dolores Cannon
b. Who was Nostradamus? What are quatrains?
c  How did Nostradamus do it?
d. Who is D.Cannon? What is "regression hypnosis"?
e. "Simultaneous time"
f. Ways to view these interpretations
g. Nostradamus on free will vs. fatalism
h. FAQ Compiler's note
i. Change history

Cast and Characters of the Time of Troubles (part 2)

a. Background/overview of the Antichrist
b. Political/religious philosophies of the Antichrist
c. The Celtic legend of the great orator
d. Death of the three popes / Catholic Church  the Antichrist
e. Assassination of the current pope
f. Second-to-last pope "swallowed" by Antichrist's schemings
g. The treachery of the final pope
h. Demise of the Catholic Church
h. Cabal's teeth in the international power flow
i. Cabal involved in military and economic conquests
j. Cabal destroyed by the Antichrist
k. Fundamentalist fanatics' infiltrations into governments
l. Manipulation of the IRA in Ireland by the underworld
m. Wealthy U.S. businessman a closet revolutionary and Nazi
o. Fundamentalist censorship
p. Terrorist assassinations

The Antichrist (part 3)

a. Antichrist's rise to power in Middle East
b. Antichrists' unified monetary system
c. Antichrist's seizure of Asia
d. Antichrist's cultural eradication  European campaign
e. Antichrist's ravage of the Catholic Church
f. Antichrist's invasion of Turkey
g. Switzerland alarmed by Antichrist's Nazism in Germany
h. International (non)reaction to the Antichrist

The Time of Troubles (part 4)

a. Volcanoes, earthquakes, floods, droughts, famines, rioting
b. Death of world leader and revolt coincides with comet
c. Fiasco from communication breakdown between two superpowers
d. Soviet/American submarine/naval confrontation
e. Crazed leader launches atom bombs on Mediterranean and Europe
f. Third world country leader creates strife
g. Antichrist profits from radar research in Europe
h. Wargame simulation by Britain in Europe leads to disaster
i. American electoral college voting stalemate
j. Earth abuse causes agricultural devastation in U.S. and Britain
k. underwater Soviet submarine base defanged by diplomacy
l. Aliens shot by paranoid nation, bacteriological agents released
m. Alien probe of the Watchers discovered by scientists

Scientific Achievements in the Time of Troubles (part 5)

a. Nostradamus on the dangers of weaponry mixed with natural disaster
b. Weather modulation devices go awry, cause ice and hail
c. Nuclear reactor meltdown near city with underground chambers
d. Space shuttle accident releases microorganisms into atmosphere
e. Devastating accidental weaponry explosions from earth tumult
f. Ruptured earth energy fields cause meteorite storm
g. Research into warping time leads to disaster
h. New, horrific, secret, radical weapons monstrosities in WWWIII
i. Atomic device creates greenhouse effect, devastates agriculture
j. Death by the "milky rain" weapon
k. "Explosion of light" causes horrible birth defects
l. The top-secret earthquake-triggering weapon ("ETW")
m. Diplomacy dies with international ETW terrorism
n. ETW unleashed on San Andreas and New Madrid faults
o. Antichrist obtains ETW through espionage, bribery, treachery
p. Death by radio waves
q. Human eugenics research advanced by the King of Terror
r. Eugenics scientists meet grisly deaths from public backlash

World War III (part 6)

a. Overview: horrible battles, weapons, devastation, death
b. Nuclear confrontation in the Middle East
c. Mediterranean campaign and the battles of Gibraltar
d. Bomb sent at New York by the Antichrist, France retaliates
e. Bacteriological warfare strikes New York and London
f. Antichrist conquers Europe
g. The Antichrist invades Britain
h. The crucial meeting on the naval carrier
i. Seas, rivers, lakes boil; famines lead to insane cannibalism
j. Antichrist's commander succumbs to key strategic failure
k. Russia breaks free of the Antichrist
l. North Pole Alliance of North America, Europe, Russia forms
m. Ogmios confronts the Antichrist, fate of world in balance
n. Antichrist eventually dethroned

The geological and spiritual earth shift (part 7)

a. Timing
b. The end of civilization
c. Geography
d. Preparations/Survival
e. Old vs. Young Souls
f. The New Age of spiritual rebirth
g. Reawakening of freedoms an rights
h. Peace after WWWIII
i. Spirituality transcends technology
j. Feminine aspects of God revered again
k. More open, frequent contact with aliens
l. "Green" revolution, return to the land
m. Scientific discoveries reaffirm Eastern religion
n. Great Genius unifies religion and science
o. Great Genius 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: FC: Simon Wiesenthal Center attacks Ebay

1999-11-28 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:41:21 -0800, Damian B. Cooper wrote:

[The Wiesenthal Center's intentions may be good, but I'm not sure if
reasonable people should praise book-banning efforts.]

Damian, I am not wrote it , was Declan which write. I am was waiting a reply... :)

No.  The Wiesenthal Center's intentions are not good.  They're nothing but
Jewish chauvinists.  They are not reasonable people, and have no intention
of being reasonable.

Jews are less than a half a percent of the world's population.  Their
prescriptions
for what people should read, say, buy, eat, and think should quite properly be
ignored.

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: FC: Simon Wiesenthal Center attacks Ebay

1999-11-28 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:41:21 -0800, Damian B. Cooper wrote:

No.  The Wiesenthal Center's intentions are not good.  They're nothing but
Jewish chauvinists.  They are not reasonable people, and have no intention
of being reasonable.

Jews are less than a half a percent of the world's population.  Their
prescriptions
for what people should read, say, buy, eat, and think should quite properly be
ignored.

But the problem is which if you think different, they jailed you or whatever thing.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [spynews] Internet spies' new tactics

1999-11-27 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Internet spies' new tactics
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_537000/537520.stm
BBC News
Friday, 26 November, 1999, 16:45 GMT

Computer users are being warned by industry
experts to beware of secret codes which could
be used to record their conversations.

Emails, screensavers, and electronic greeting
cards can carry a secret code which is able to
switch on the computer's microphone, make a
recording, and forward it to someone else
without the user's knowledge.

In fact any attachments sent to a computer, be
it a game of Space Invaders, or a moving image,
can potentially be used to spy.

Experts say people should always think twice
about opening attachments because - although
rare - bugging by computer can, and has been
done.

Malicious code

Bill Lyons, head of the internet security company
Finjan, said: "Military people in the United States
have tested this and you can be sure, if people in
general are aware of it, then computer hackers are
aware of it.

"The frightening thing is, there are tools on the
internet which people, using a simple search engine,
can find which will enable them to bind this
malicious code to simple attachments."

Experts have also confirmed that what can be done
with a computer's microphone could also be done
with a webcam - allowing pictures to be taken of
people near a computer terminal.

Carl Saran, from Computer Weekly magazine, said:
"I don't think this is scaremongering - it is
potentially possible.

"I'm sure there are clever people who are thinking
about how they can use this feature to look at
what people are doing on their computers."

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[CTRL] An old text I have here

1999-11-27 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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MORE GRIST FOR THE MILL -- WHO ARE THE UFONAUTS?
The Watchers and the Giants...

The Book of Enoch...

"Go speak to the Watchers of Heaven, who have sent you to
intercede for them.  Tell them, You should intercede for
men, and not men for you.  Why did you leave lofty holy
Heaven to sleep with women, to defile yourselves with the
daughters of men and take them as your wives, and like the
children of the earth to beget sons, in your case giants?
Though you were holy and spiritual, living the eternal
life, you defiled yourself with the blood of women, you
begot children with the blood of flesh, and like the others
you have lusted after flesh and blood as do those who die
and perish.  Because they perish I gave them wives so they
might impregnante them, have children, and nothing be
lacking on the earth.  But you were spiritual and immortal
for all generations of the world.  so I gave you no wives,
for Heaven is your proper dwelling place.  And now the
giants, offspring of spirit and flesh, will be called
spirits on the earth, and earth shall be their dwelling.
Their bodies emitted evil spirits because they were born
from human women and the holy Watchers.  The giants
afflict, oppress, destroy, attack over the earth.  Although
they hunger and thirst, they do not eat.  They offend.
These spirits will rise up against men and women because
they proceed from them.  "The giants will slaughter,
unpunished, until the day of the great judgment.  Then the
age, the Watchers, and the godless will be wholly
consummated.  As for the Watcher who sent you to intercede
for them, tell them: 'You were in Heaven but the mysteries
were not revealed to you.  You knew worthless ones, and in
the hardness of your hearts you revealed these to ewomen,
and through these secrets women and men work much evil
earth.'  Say to them, 'You have no peace.'"

ENOCH'S JOURNEYS THROUGH SHEOL AND HEAVEN --

"And the archangel Uriel said to me, 'Here shall stand the
angels who have been attached to women.  Their spirits,
assuming many different forms, are defiling mankind and
will lead them astray into sacrificing to demons as gods.
Here they shall stand till the day of the winds of Heaven
which turn and bring the circumference of the sun and all
the stars to their setting..."

ENOCH'S ASCENT TO THE FIFTH HEAVEN --

"And the men carried me up on to the fifth heaven, and I
saw there many troops, Grigori, and their appearance was
human and their size greater than that of great giants and
their faces withered, and the silence of their mouths
perpetual, and there was no service on the fifth heaven,
and I said to the men who were with me, 'Why are their
faces melancholy and withered, their mouths silent, and why
is there no service on this heaven?'  And they said to me,
'These are the Grigori, who with their prince Satanail,
rejected the Lord of light, and after them are those who
are held in great darkness on the second heaven and three
of them went down to earth from the Lord's throne to the
place Ermon, and broke through their vows on the shoulder
of the hill Ermon and saw how good are the daughters of
men.  They took them as their wives, and befouled the earth
with their deeds, and in all times of their age were
lawless and promiscuous.  Giants (Nephilim) were born and
marvelous big men and great enmity.  And therefore God
judged them with great punishment, and they weep for their
brethren and they will be punished on the Lord's great
day.'"  NOTE: Grigori. Giant angels, also called Watchers,
who revolted in Heaven and sinned with the daughters of
men.  In Genesis 6:2, "the sons of God (fallen angels),
looking at the daughters of men, saw that they were
pleasing and married as many as they chose."  The
intercourse of God's angels with humans enraged God.  In
Genesis 6:3, we read God's words: "My spirit must not be
disgraced in man, for he is but flesh."  As punishment "his
life shall last for no more than a hundred and twenty
years."  For all this wickedness and corruption, in the
next lines, God introduces Noah and the Flood.  Ermon is
considered to be Mount Hermon in upper Galilee today.

WHO ARE THE NEPHILIM (FALLEN ANGEL-HUMAN HYBRIDS)?

Before the Indian Hindu (Mohenjo Daro) "Aryans," legend has
it that the first great Aryans were the Neflheim (Nephilim
in the book of Genesis in the Bible, i.e., the Giants of
old, i.e., fallen angel-human hybrids) who existed in the
"north" in the centre of their land of which was a well
from which sprang twelve rivers.  The god of this northland
was Odin who was considered the greatest of sorcerers, and
imparted his knowledge of his art to his favourites.
Frigga was his queen, and the mother of Baldur, the
Scandinavian Apollo.  Thus, in legend we see the Nephilim
of the north spreading out of the north, across Europe, and
eventually coming to India.   Indian and Tibetian esoteric
Hinduism/Buddhism plays a central role in the Theosophy of
Helena P. Blavatsky.

HELENA PETROVNA BLAVATSKY

She 

Re: [CTRL] J. PIERPONT MORGAN

1999-11-27 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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More one msg interesting! Thanks again, Kris.

On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 21:55:08 EST, Kris Millegan wrote:

an excerpt from:
McCLURE'S MAGAZINE. 1901
VOL. XVII.   --  OCTOBER, 1901.  --  No. 6.

J. PIERPONT MORGAN.

By RAY STANNARD BAKER,
Author of Character Sketches of Theodore Roosevelt, Admiral Sampson, General
Leonard Wood, etc.

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Re: [CTRL] Phony Oswald in Mexico

1999-11-27 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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I like the attach form.

On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:30:55 -0700, Hilary A. Thomas wrote:

I can't open these files.  Can you send the text not as an attachment, but
within an email?

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[CTRL] Quote

1999-11-27 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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New World Order, 1918 to 1995: "The old world order changed when this
war-storm broke. The old international order passed away as suddenly, as
unexpectedly, and as completely as if it had been wiped out by a gigantic
flood, by a great tempest, or by a volcanic eruption. The old world order
died with the setting of that day's sun and a new world order is being born
while I speak, with birth-pangs so terrible that it seems almost incredible
that life could come out of such fearful suffering and such overwhelming
sorrow." -- Nicholas Murray Butler, in an address delivered before the
Union League of Philadelphia, Nov. 27, 1915

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[CTRL] Fwd: FC: Simon Wiesenthal Center attacks Ebay

1999-11-27 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 08:16:36 -0500
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Subject: FC: Simon Wiesenthal Center attacks Ebay

[The Wiesenthal Center's intentions may be good, but I'm not sure if
reasonable people should praise book-banning efforts.]


From: Paul Spirito [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SWC vs Ebay
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:27:20 -0500

http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/11/cyber/articles/25auction.html

| Ebay, the online auction service that has come under fire
| in the past for letting people bid on pornography and
| firearms, encountered more problems on Wednesday when a
| group that monitors anti-Semitism complained about its
| sale of Nazi memorabilia.
|
| A letter sent to the service by Simon Wiesenthal Center
| in Los Angeles asked the company "to review its policy of
| marketing items, many of which glorify Nazism." The
| letter then noted that the sale of such items is illegal
| in Germany, a relevant argument because, using the World
| Wide Web, any user anywhere can buy from Ebay.
|
| "My goal here is not to get Ebay indicted," said Rabbi
| Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the center, who
| registered the complaint. "My goal is to keep Ebay from
| selling Nazi memorabilia in Germany."
|
| In addition to sending a letter of complaint, Cooper said
| that he planed to go to Berlin next week to discuss the
| issue with Herta Däubler-Gmelin, the German minister of
| justice.

[...]

| Just last week, Amazon.com said that it would stop
| selling Hitler's ''Mein Kampf'' in Germany, citing German
| laws prohibiting sales of hate literature. The move came
| after Wiesenthal Center filed legal complaints against
| Amazon and other Web-based booksellers in August.

[...]

| [Kevin Pursglove, a spokesman for Ebay] said that
| blocking sales of items "is not something we want to
| engage in" because Ebay's goal is to serve as a venue
| without interfering in commerce. Further, he said, using
| filtering software to limit such sales would not be
| feasible, noting that such technology can be imprecise.
| "It's never quite as easy as entering one or two key
| words," Pursglove said.

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Re: [CTRL] Quote

1999-11-27 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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:-) How you knowed of this movie?

On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 11:55:25 -0500, Terry Cox wrote:

Reminds me of the silent movie, I think produced in l9l5 also, called "Birth of a 
Nation".

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Re: [CTRL] Another take on Lev. 18

1999-11-27 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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This article from Jacob Milgrom is interesting, but for a special reason.

Am I staying mad? The Bible is wrong?! ... or this man is a mad racist?

On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 10:24:13 -0500, YnrChyldzWyld wrote:

Bible Review, December 1993, p. 11

DOES THE BIBLE PROHIBIT HOMOSEXUALITY?
Jacob Milgrom

The biblical prohibition is addressed only to Israel.  It is incorrect to
apply it on a universal scale.

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Re: [CTRL] Why I am not a Homophobe

1999-11-27 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Dont make me to jest! MARXISM = RELIGION. The Religion of Satan, sure. :)

On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:34:55 -0800, nessie wrote:

do Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Marxists and Buddhists. Buddhists are the least

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Re: [CTRL] [19] The Great Heroin Coup

1999-11-27 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Hmmm! Tasteful. :-) If you have more things like this, please, post. :)

On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 00:01:29 EST, Kris Millegan wrote:

The Great Heroin Coup - Drugs, Intelligence,  International Fascism

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[CTRL] The Hierarchy of the Illuminati

1999-11-26 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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http://mercury.spaceports.com/~persewen/elite.htm

  THE HIERARCHY OF THE ILLUMINATI



  THE INNER CORE:

 (revised May 2 1999. Revision in this font color)



  [david_rockefeller.jpg]

  Czar: David Rockefeller

[The above person is identified from so many reliable sources, that his
role in the game must be considered to be established. The rest of the
members of the "Inner Core" are, and probably will be, most difficult to
verify. However, they are members of the super-rich, super- powerful
families of the world, and they all stand above the law and shun public
exposure. Most of them will never appear on the lists of the world's
richest people, like Forbes magazine etc.] What is known though, is the
number of members and their nationalities. All together, the Inner core of
the Illuminati consists of ten members from the following countries:

  USA - 2 members
   Canada - one member
   France - three members
  Austria - one member
Great Britain - one member
Spain - one member
 South Africa - one member *)

Interesting also is a quote from the Holy Bible, Revelation 13:1, when it
comes to the Illuminati and the number of people in the inner core:

  13.1 "Ten horns" represent ten minor kings (17.12) ...

... Antichrist is the beast as well as the seventh head. 12.3 reads: "Upon
his heads seven diadems"; and the next chapter says: "On his horns ten
diadems" (13.1). Antichrist in the days to come will arise from the revived
Roman Empire so as to gain control over Europe. According to the historical
narration the ten kings alluded to in 12.3 are not yet crowned, nor do they
have authority. But after these ten kings are crowned and receive authority
they will crown the beast. And thus Antichrist gains authority at that very
time. "Blasphemy"ùWhatever exalts oneself and abases God is blasphemy (see
Matt. 9.3, 26.65; John 5.18, 10.33; Mark 3.28; Rev. 16.21). "Upon his heads
names of blasphemy"ùIt means that these heads call themselves gods. History
informs us that the first five Caesars in the Roman Empire demanded the
people to worship them as gods."


  THE INNER RING:



Allaire, Paul Arthur (Xerox Corp)

Allison, Graham Tillery, Jr.
(Center for National Policy U.S)

Andreas, Dwayne Orville (Archer
Daniels Midland Co)

Bartley, Robert Leroy (Wall Street
Journal)

Bergsten, C. Fred (Inst. for Int.
Econ. U.S.)

Bowie, Robert R. (Overseas
Development Council)

Brademas, John (Texaco)

Brzezinski, Zbigniew (Center for
Strategic  International studies)

Clinton, William Jefferson
(President of the United States)

Cooper, Richard N. (Professor at
Harvard University)

Corrigan, E. Gerald (Goldman Sachs)

Davis, Lynn E. (Under Secretary
State Dep. U.S.)

Friedman, Stephen James
(Co-chairman Goldman Sachs  Co.)

Friedman, Thomas L. (Columnist New
York Times)

Foley, Thomas Stephen (House of
Representatives U.S.)

Gregen, David R. (Special assistant
to President Clinton)

Graham, Katharine (Chairman
Washington Post)

Greenberg, Maurice R. (Dep.
Chairman Fed, N.Y.)

Hesburgh, Theodore Martin (Fmr.
President of the University of
Notre Dame)

Hewitt, William Alexander
(Ambassador Jamaica)

Holbrooke, Richard C. (US
Ambassador, peace negotiator)

Jordan, Vernon Eulion, Jr.
(Brookings Institute)

Kissinger, Henry Alfred (Fmr.
Secretary of States U.S., Kissinger
Associates)

Lord, Winston (Assistant Secretary
State Dep. U.S.)

McCracken, Paul Winston (Fmr.
Professor University of Michigan)

McNamara, Robert Strange (World
Bank)

Mondale, Walter Fritz (US
Ambassador)

Nye, Joseph S., Jr. (Chairman
National Intelligence 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Mail Delivery Problem

1999-11-26 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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It isnt a problem here, because OS2 dont run WinSofts without
convert it,  I posted graphics  it is secure how a bird. :)

On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 05:53:00 -0800, Tenorlove wrote:

Also, email viruses are most likely transmitted through attachments.
Opening attachments from unknown sources, and without first scanning
them (my browsers are set up to do this automatically) is the
cyber-equivalent of "unsafe sex." That few extra seconds it takes to
scan something could save you hours of rebuilding your system.

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Re: [CTRL] Sinister Masonic secrets of the Oklahoma City bombing

1999-11-26 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Great post! Thanks, Kris.

On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:25:28 EST, Kris Millegan wrote:

Subject: Sinister Masonic secrets of the Oklahoma City bombing

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[CTRL] Symbols

1999-11-24 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

The symbols are very much important, however they are fascinating
for some, others have horror for it! By horror, I mean horror by
what these symbols represent REALLY. Well, it is possible write a
enciclopedya about it. :) See pentagram in the dc_2, it has INVERTED
and the other graphic file is auto-explainable.

 dc_2.gif
 hex_copy.JPG


[CTRL] Fwd: Mail Delivery Problem

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Hey folks, whats the problem?! What happened?! Why attach isnt accepted?

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[CTRL] Fwd: [spynews] Re: Soros: It Isn't Enough to Shed Communism

1999-11-23 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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 It Isn't Enough to Shed Communism
 By George Soros
 Tuesday, November 23, 1999;
 The Washington Post
 Page A27

 The writer is an international financier
 and philanthropist.



Beware of billionaires bearing gifts
--
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/97/0407/5907082a.htm

A near decade after the collapse of the Soviet Union,
much of Central and Eastern Europe is still ruled by the
old gang. Guess who's helping keep them in power?

By Richard C. Morais
Forbes Magazine
April 7, 1997

  IF YOU'VE DIMLY wondered what is happening in
Albania, we can, in a brief sentence, explain:
George Soros' friends are coming out on top.

Late in February, armed gangs led by gangsters
and ex-Communists, many of them veterans of the
old secret police state, all but toppled an
elected liberal government, and forced the
president to appoint a neo-Communist as prime
minister. While this was happening, George Soros
sat in his London town house and calmly told
Forbes that his Albanian Foundation is "an
excellent group very much on top of the situation."

On top is right: Soros has kept afloat a newspaper,
Koha Jone, that egged on the coupists with
inflammatory antigovernment propaganda. A pyramid
scheme had collapsed, costing many people their
savings, and the Soros-supported paper effectively
made a call to arms. A top official of the Soros
foundation in Tirana boasted to stunned observers:
"[President] Berisha's going. We got him."

In an age-old tradition of European political
patronage, this multibillionaire speculator routinely
taps his billions to fund journals, politicians and
educators in Europe and elsewhere. More often than
not, these  have an exclusively left-wing bias.


  Soros, 67, is Hungarian-born but a U.S. citizen.
He recently caused a flutter in the February issue of
the Atlantic Monthly by penning a windy attack on free
market capitalism.

  Why is George Soros so cozy with people and causes
that might be expected to view his kind as parasites?

  To understand his charitable works Forbes visited the
Soros Foundation- Hungary's cream-colored villa in the
hills of Budapest. Hungary is not only Soros' native
land but where his charities have the longest history.
There we met Miklos Vasarhelyi, the 80-year-old president
of the Soros-funded foundation. This man, who dispenses
millions of dollars a year in a rather poor country,
has an interesting past. Vasarhelyi was press officer to
Imre Nagy, the Communist Prime Minister executed in 1958
for being too independent. Vasarhelyi stood trial along
with Nagy after Soviet tanks crushed the 1956 Hungarian
uprising. Nagy and most others were hanged or sentenced
to life. Vasarhelyi got just five years, the lightest
punishment of the pack.

  Thanks to George Soros, this former Communist has risen
again. A political party he helped found is a partner in
the present government. That government is a coalition of
ex-Communists (now the Hungarian Socialist Party) and a
left-liberal group, the Alliance of Free Democrats, a
coalition that came to power in 1994 after defeating
a rather ineffectual moderate government. Soros blessed
the election results.

  "These are strong, serious-minded people," he publicly
said of the victorious ex-Communists. "I have great
expectations in general." Not everyone agreed. One
prominent foreign businessman who first considered, then
rejected, doing business in Hungary, described the current
government as a "bunch of clowns who haven't a clue as to
how to run an economy."

  Soros has since banged heads with Socialist Prime
Minister Gyula Horn, but remains close to his coalition
partner, the Alliance of Free Democrats. He provides many
AFD leaders with income. Besides Vasarhelyi, for example,
Soros' Hungarian lawyer, Alajos Dornbach, is a top-ranked
AFD official and a legal adviser to the foundation.

  Soros is the great philanthropist of our age or so his
press constantly remind us. Every year, according to his
flacks, he gives away more than $300 million through a
network of 1,000 employees in 30 countries. When Russian
scientists were starving he gave each a year's salary; he
brought fresh water to besieged Bosnians; he's providing
kindergartens for Gypsies. Good deeds, all.

  But there is another side to the giving, a rather 

[CTRL] Who Or What Killed The TRUTH?

1999-11-23 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Interesting. My gift to you: John 8:44, Revelation 2:9  3:9  possibly others.

See too Galatians 4:16.

On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 20:51:41 -0700, watcher wrote:

Scripture has much to say about the demise of the (tannin)  i.e.  Hebrew for 
dinosaur...

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[CTRL] The Real X-Files (TheSecret.txt)

1999-11-23 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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http://www.plim.org/nonlocal.htm

HAS SCIENCE FOUND GOD IN NON-LOCAL REALITY?

  Dr . Lee E. Warren, B.A., D.D.

 (c) September/October 1996 "PLIM REPORT"

  Feel free to copy and circulate this article for non-commerical purposes
  provided the Web site and author are mentioned.

See Related Articles: Science and Medicine


   Introduction

Some may argue that science has not proven the actual existence of God.
However, quantum mechanics (a discipline that explains the interaction of
the various forces and energies that exist in an atom) has discovered
another realm that is not physical or in the realm of space and time.
Quantum mechanics emerged about 1925 led by the research of Albert Einstein
(1879-1955) and Neil Bohr (1885-1962) who we will discuss later in this
paper.

Houston Smith in his book The WorldÆs Religions states that science has
been very doubtful of the unseen realm, ôbut with EddingtonÆs [Sir Arthur
Stanley Edding-ton was an English astrophysicist 1882-1944] observation
that the world is more like a mind than a machine, and astrophysicistsÆ
reports that 90 percent of the æmatterÆ in the universe is invisible in the
sense that it impacts none of their instruments, scientific skepticism has
begun to subside (p. 319).ö Modern science may have found God whether they
want to admit it or not.

Eastern mysticism does not divide spirit from matter as we do in the West.
Swami Brahmanda said: ôShow where matter ends and spirit begins. Only our
own private delusion creates separate habitations for God And man (Vedanta,
from the Introductory Chapter, ®1971 Harper  Row, Pub.)."

Quantum mechanics is the most precise area of science that man ever created
to describe physical phenomenon. Its disadvantage is that it only operates
for a large number of occurrences within subatomic particles; it cannot
predict a single occurrence of an individual particle. Quantum mechanics
provides an explanation for why the sun shines; why molecules bond
themselves together; why the three states of matterùgas, liquid,
solidùexist; why an iron bar magnetizes when it is placed near a magnet.

On the practical side, quantum mechanics is the particular area of science
that gives us our modern comforts, such as electricity, the compute chip,
microwaves, lasers, and television. Quantum mechanics also provides the
technology for our recent weapons of terror and destruction, such as the
A-bomb and the H-bomb. Keep in mind that the science of quantum mechanics
is the theory that explains the power inside atoms.

What is the intent of this article?

This article will compare the invisible, non-local order of our reality
identified by quantum mechanics (specifically proven by the Bell Theorem)
and Spirit that is invisible, omnipresent, and all in all. We are most
familiar with a reality consisting of local events within space and time
and one that exists and operates in a chronological framework. Quantum
mechanics proves that there is a non-local part of our existence just as
real as thoughts, feelings, and ideas that cannot be measured on an
instrument. The invisible DNA instructions that directs our cells prove the
unseen presence of the Creator in which we live, move, and have our being
(Acts 17:22-28).

What has science  done to religious views?

Theologians know that science has severely undermined the established
concept of God taught in churches for the last 1500 years. As science has
explained much natural phenomenon once thought divine, the image of God has
transformed.

Most people no longer think of God as an old man with white hair and a long
beard that jumps down from a cloud to answer prayers. This has no more
relevancy to us than our ancient ancestorsÆ views of the cosmos and the
world dominated by primitive magic, superstitions, and myths.

Most traditional religions emerged before the scientific era. (See the
article in this issue on the time world religions emerged on p. 9 of the
ôDid U Know ...?ö section) Even Israel was superstitious. When you study
their views on the Ark of the Covenant, for example, Israel thought power
was literally in that box (Acts 17:24).

Initially, science was a tool for manÆs quest to understand God. Science
was supposed to supply evidence of GodÆs existence that would eradicate
manÆs ignorance of his creator. Scientific knowledge in the late 19th and
20th century has radically altered manÆs views of the universe and his
place in it.

Did manÆs view of the world change?

As the birth of the Messiah changed time from B.C. to A.D., the advent of
quantum mechanics changed scienceÆs old, materialistic way of viewing the
world to a new, revolutionary perception (see illustration p. 16). During
the scientific revolution, the philosophy of materialism was the dominate
view. It is defined as follows: ôa) the 

[CTRL] Freemasonry being investigated

1999-11-16 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Freemasonry being investigated in Kenya

Source: Africa News
Section:NEWS, DOCUMENTS  COMMENTARY
Date:   August 5, 1999
Length: 500 words
Copyright:  Copyright (c) 1999
Africa News Service, Inc.
Headline:   Kenya;
Government urged to investigate Freemasons and devil worship
Byline: The Nation (Nairobi)


Nairobi, Kenya - Activities of the Freemasons should be
investigated, a presidential commission on the cult of devil
worship has recommended.

The Freemasons have their temples (lodges) in Nairobi along
Nyerere road, in Nakuru, Kisumu, Eldoret, Kitale, Nyeri and in
Mombasa.

"Many members of the Freemasons society are rich, successful
businessman and top leaders including members from all religions.
They go to the temples to seek powers from their master - Satan -
for the protection of their positions and ill- gotten wealth,"
the commissioners were told.

The report, which came to the public domain on Tuesday, said that
in every country, members of the Freemasons were people who
wielded great influence in society and governments and also hold
responsible positions in international organisations.

The commissioners said they were unable to conclusively confirm
that Freemasonry was a cult of devil worshippers due to the fact
that the impenetrable society's activities were shrouded in deep
mystery. But the report said some of the symbols and items the
commissioners saw at the Freemasons lodge on Nyerere Road were
similar to those associated with devil worship.

The report noted that after taking the commission on a tour of
the lodge, Freemason members denied that they were devil
worshippers. But the commissioners state that some of the
literature they examined confirmed allegations that Freemasons
were devil worshippers.

"In view of the conflicting information regarding the activities
of Freemasonry, and given the secrecy of the society both to its
members and the general public, the commission strongly
recommends that the government institutes further investigations
on its activities," the report said.

The report further recommended that Freemasons come out openly
and explain their activities.

Allegations against Freemasons included claims that they conduct
their prayers at night in the dark while nude; drinking human
blood; eating human flesh; stripping naked during rituals;
walking backwards when entering the temple; and scouting for
members through rigorous screening to avoid potential defaulters.

The commission summoned top leaders of the Freemasons society who
vehemently denied accusations that they were devil worshippers.
The Freemason leaders said their organisation was not a religion
but had a religious basis in that they believed in a Supreme
Being.

Freemasons are involved in many charitable activities.

During the tour of the Freemasons lodge on Nyerere Road, the
commissioners noted symbols and signs such as working tools of a
mason; a compass; pentagram; star of David; an underground room
with 12 pillers representing the 12 tribes of Israel and certain
holy books like the Bible the Koran and the Gita.

Among arguments the report adduces to associate Freemasonry with
devil-worship were writings of one Albert Pike, the sovereign
pontiff of universal Freemasonry who purportedly claimed that
Lucifer (Satan) is God.

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[CTRL] Occult celebration

1999-11-16 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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OCCULT CELEBRATION OF THE NEW MILLENIUM

The big celebration of the new millennium will be held in Egypt by the
Illuminati. On the back of the One Dollar bill there is this symbol of the Big
Pyramid, which in its turn is the symbol of the Mountain of Satan. The occult
celebration has been planned since long, and George Bush has even told us
publicly that he will probably celebrate the New Years Eve in Egypt.

The celebration will take place inside one of the pyramids, which vault will
then be opened in honor of Satan and the Mystery Religion of Babalon*. CNN has
displayed the mountain of Satan on Headline News during their segment "Dollars
and sense".

CNN is a faithful promoter of the Illuminati Satanic Agenda and they use
subliminal mind control programming within their graphics. Look carefully at
the animated segments and you will probably discover it. CNN was also the only
news channel permitted to take "close shots" in the Gulf War, so the
Illuminati could be 100% sure what would be broadcast and what would not. For
sure they didn't report George Bush's use of "Remote Viewers" and astrologers
to decide which targets the missiles were going to hit.

* Other sources tell me that it all will occur on the Day of Hecate, which is
the 11th of August 1999.The Illuminati will gather together in blood rituals
inside the pyramid and open the grave of Osiris to let hugh satanic powers
loose into the world, with a purpose to destroy all resistance.

(Updated 7 March 1999)

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[CTRL] Crowley, Hitler WWII

1999-11-16 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Aleister Crowley (1875-1947)

Contents:

A presentation
Crowley and Freemasonry
OTO
Crowley, Hitler and World War II
Hymn to Lucifer


A presentation:

Aleister Crowley is the occultist and Satanist that is maybe the most well
known. His works "The Book of the Law", "Magick in Theory and Practice" and
"The Book of Thoth" are broadly used in occult circuits. Crowley himself didn't
take much credit for having written them, as he stated they were written by
automatic handwriting, being channeled from a higher being called Aiwaz (or
Aiwass). This being said he had lived in Caldea during the reign of Hammurabis
(around 1750 BC), but later, in his book "Magick in Theory and Practice",
Crowley identified Aiwaz as his own genius. He was actually very proud of this
book, which he used as a Bible for his own religion - Thelema. Crowley looked
at man as a sleeping god who gradually started to understand what powers he
possesses. He also taught that Satan was identical with the Sumerian devil/god
Shaitan, who he stated had been worshiped in the Egyptian deserts long before
the ages of the Pharaohs.

He was also a drug- and sex addict and was addicted both to opium, hashish,
cocaine, mescaline, amphetamines and heroin, in order to perceive higher states
of beingness (drug abuse is very common to occultists in general). When he
discovered mescaline, he developed seven rituals, Rites of Eleusis, and rented
Caxton Hall to demonstrate them. Later he opened up a Temple of Satan in
London, where many high society ladies became his pupils. By that time Crowley
had shaved his head and filed his canine teeth so sharp that he could initiate
every new woman with a "kiss of the snake", as he gave them a bite either on
the wrist or in the throat.

"Do what thou will shall be the whole of the Law" [The work of the OTO ... is
geared towards the achievement of a world-spanning empire ... The Law "Do what
thou wilt" is the law of this new state - a One World Government] was his motto
for the OTO, which was the secret order he himself was the Grandmaster of. He
rejected traditional morality in favor of the life of a drug addict and brutal
womanizer ("I rave; and I rape and I rip and I rend" is a line from one of his
poems). He even enjoyed being called the "wickedest man in the world". He was
married twice, and both his wives went insane. Five of his mistresses committed
suicide.

People who met Crowley verified that he had occult powers, and as an example
William Seabrook tells the following story: Seabrook wanted a demonstration of
Crowley's powers, so the latter chose a man by random out on the street and
followed him, imitating his walk. Suddenly Crowley fell but was rapidly on his
feet again. At the same time the other man fell on the sidewalk. Crowley and
his companion helped the man up, and he looked confused, trying to find the
banana peel.

Crowley was also the man who came up with putting backwards messages into
musical recordings. Beatles, the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin used this on
some of their albums. Jimmy Page put a backward satanic message on the mega hit
"Stairway to Heaven" ("Here's to my sweet Satan"). Page also bought Crowley's
mansion in Scotland and was/is a true follower of his teaching, as was the late
drummer John Bonham from the same group. Beatles also used backwards messages
like "Paul is dead" on their albums and Crowley's head is present on the cover
of "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band".

Aleister Crowley was born in Warwickshire where he revolted against a strict
religious childhood. He left his studies and became initiated into the secret
order of the Golden Dawn in 1898. After some time he came into conflict with
its leaders and went to Mexico. From there he traveled a lot, to India and
Ceylon, where he studied yoga and Buddhism. Buddhism replaced his occult
interests for a while, until he got a strange experience in Cairo, Egypt in
1904. By curiosity his wife Rose asked him to do an occult ritual. She then
went into a state of trance and brought down a message from some strange being.
"He's waiting for you", she told Crowley. "Him", she said, was Horus, the God
of wars and the son of Osiris in the old Egyptian mythology.

At first, Crowley didn't believe her, so he started asking her a few questions
to reveal her as a fraud. But Rose, who didn't know very much about the occult,
gave the correct answers ...

The message that was sent to Crowley, told him to sit down by his desk a
certain time three days in a row. He obeyed and in these three days he wrote
"The Book of Law" with automatic writing. This means ones hand is moving by
another force than ones own ...

Crowley's messenger taught that the old Age of Osiris soon would follow by the
new Age of Horus. But first Earth must bathe in blood. There should be a World
War(!). The Book of Law told about a race of Superhuman and condemned the old
religions, the pacifism, democracy, compassion and humanity. "Let my servants
be 

[CTRL] Crowley Freemasonry

1999-11-16 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Crowley and Freemasonry

In his book "Confessions ..." Crowley claimed that he had been initiated as a
33 Degree Mason in the Ancient and Accepted Rite of Masonry (AAR). He probably
did this in Mexico, where he went after the break-up with the Golden Dawn. At
this time (around 1900) there was a lot of masonic activity in South America.
However, there is some confusion regarding this, as you have to be a Master
Mason to be initiated on the Higher Grades, but by this time Crowley hadn't
gone through the grades required, so either he made it up or was granted the 33
degree without prerequisites necessary. In his own words he received the
initiation after he had helped an individual with another mystical order called
LIL. No one knows for sure what the real truth is.

It looks though, as if he at one point or another DID receieve initiation, as
a copy of his recognition still exists. It's here re-produced:


 T. T. G. O. T. S. A. O. T. U.

 DEUS MEUMQUE JUS SPES MEA IN DEO EST
( Great Seal )
 SUPREME GRAND COUNCIL
 OF THE ILLUSTRIOUS PRINCE OF THE ROYAL SECRET
   POST PUISSANT SOVEREIGN GRAND INSPECTORS
GENERAL
of the
   33rd AND LAST DEGREE ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE OF
MASONRY
   H.R.D.M. R.M.S.H.
  SITTING IN THE VALLEY OF MANCHESTER

   From the East of the SUPREME GRAND COUNCIL of the
   SOVEREIGN GRAND INSPECTORS GENERAL of the 33rd and
   last degree of the Ancient and Accepted Rite of
   Freemasonry in and for Great Britain and Ireland
   under G.L. near the D.B. corresponding to 53', 25"
   N. Latitude 2', 3" West Meridian of Greenwich.

   To all Illustrious, Ineffable and Sublime Freemasons
   of every degree Around and [unclear] over the
   surface of the Globe, Greetings:

   KNOW YE - That the undersigned Sovereign Grand
   Inspectors General do hereby certify and proclaim,
   our Illustrious Brother ALEISTER CROWLEY of
   *London*, to be an Excellent Master Mason, Secret
   Master, Royal Master, intimate Secretary, Provost
   and Judge, Intendant of the Building, Elect of Nine,
   Elect of Fifteen, Sublime Knight Elected, Grand
   Master Architect, Ancient Master of the Royal Arch,
   Grand Elect Perfect and Sublime Mason, Knight of the
   Temple, Prince of Jerusalem, Knight of the East and
   West, Knight Rose Croix of Heredom, Grand Pontiff,
   Master ad Vitam, Patriarch Noachite, Prince of
   Libanus, Chief of the Tabernacle, Prince of the
   Tabernacle, Knight of the Brazen Serpent, Prince of
   Mercy, Commander of the Temple, Knight of the Sun,
   Knight of Saint Andrew, Grand Elect Knight Kadosh,
   Grand Inspector Inquisitor Commander, Prince of the
   Royal Secret, Most Puissant Sovereign Grand
   Inspector General of the 33rd and Last Degree.

   WE ALSO COMMAND: All the Knights, Princes and
   Sublime Masons under our Jurisdiction and we pray
   all other MASONS over the Surface Of The Globe, to
   Welcome and Honor Him as a SOVEREIGN GRAND INSPECTOR
   GENERAL, and to give credit to these LETTERS PATENT,
   we have caused to be signed in the margin by our
   said Illustrious Bro. ALEISTER CROWLEY, that they
   admit no other than himself.

   Signed and Delivered by us SOVEREIGN GRAND
   INSPECTORS GENERAL of The 33rd and Last Degree with
   the Seal of our said SUPREME COUNCIL affixed in the
   Valley of Manchester this 29th day of the 11th month
   A.M. 5071 corresponding to the 29th November, A.D.
   1910.

RATIFIED AND CONFIRMED

  {*} John Yarker 33~
   M.^.P.^.S.^.Gr.^.of Gt. Britain  Ireland


Though it is beyond doubt that Crowley had connections with Freemasonry, he
didn't seem to have a high opinion of their teachings. He used some of their
techniques in his own order, OTO, later but most of his own grades in that
order was and is quite different from Freemasonry.

The following is taken from his book Confessions once again, page 700 et seq.
regarding his motives of using Freemasonic knowledge within his own order:

``What is Freemasonry? I collated the rituals and their secrets,
much as I had done the religions of the world, with their magical
and mystical bases. As in that case, 

Re: [CTRL] FYI - Virus Alert W32/FunLove.4099

1999-11-15 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Not in my case. I dont use windows  never see virus in my machine hence that time.

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:54:03 -0500, Tatman, Robert wrote:

The lesson is ALWAYS KEEP YOUR ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE UP-TO-DATE. Make sure you
have the latest virus definitions from your vendor. Remember, "eternal
vigilance is the price of liberty."

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Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ hates xmas

1999-11-15 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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I liked it very much. Excellent text! Thanks!

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:56:51 -,  JAH Publications wrote:

CHRIST'S OPINION of SANTA CLAUS and YULETIDE, as expressed by HIS ANGEL, to HIS 
APOSTLE JOHN, in THE APOCALYPSE, Chapter 2.

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[CTRL] Biblebelievers Newsletter #095

1999-11-14 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Bible Believers' Newsletter #095

"We focus on the PRESENT Truth -- what Jesus is doing NOW . . ."
ISSN 1442-8660




We greet you in the wonderful Name of our Lord Jesus Christ and
appreciate your fellowship. An especial welcome to new subscribers.

This newsletter serves those of like precious faith and whosoever will
receive the truth is welcome to feed their soul from the waters of the River
of Life. Everything presented should be confirmed personally in your own
Bible.

Your brother-in-Christ, Anthony




Rome Reconquers Lutherans

Augsburg, Germany: On October 31, Lutherans and Catholics signed a Joint
Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification: how one gains salvation, or
right relationship with God, stating essential agreement over this issue
that prompted Luther's uprising in 1517.

Lutherans said justification comes by grace through faith alone while
Catholics say good works also are required. The new statement does NOT claim
to have resolved all points related to the two understandings of
justification, but declares that the remaining differences should not divide
the churches.

I want you to note the absence of the Holy Spirit who "guides into ALL
Truth" (John 16:13), so that in every age, Christians have all spoken the
same thing without division, being perfectly joined together in the same
mind and in the same judgment (I Corinthians 1:10) in accord with Jesus'
prayer (John 17:20-26). It is ONLY by recognizing YOUR day and ITS Message
that one could be a Christian in any age. THIS revelation alone imparts the
baptism with the Holy Spirit which is the new birth.

The joint Declaration states in part, "Together we confess: By grace
alone, in faith in Christ's saving work and not because of any merit on our
part, we are accepted by God and receive the Holy Spirit, who renews our
hearts while equipping and calling us to good works."

They are equating Justification by grace through faith with the new
birth or baptism with the Holy Ghost. I John 5:1-13 which compares the
natural birth with the Spiritual, points out how one may be justified but
not sanctified; sanctified but not justified or justified and sanctified but
still not born-again and ultimately lost.

Judas Iscariot was not Serpent's seed. He was written in the Book of
Life which is the genealogy of Adam (Luke 10:20). Judas was justified by
grace through faith and baptized (John 4:1-2). He was also sanctified by the
Word of God (John 17:17); but he failed die to his own ideas and go all the
way to Pentecost, and was subsequently lost.

Peter types earth's baptism with the believer's justification and water
baptism in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins
(II Peter 3:20-21). Justification was not earth's new birth or there would
have been no more death and decay which is the result of sin. Typing the
Spiritual birth with the natural, I John 3:2-9, 5:18 show there can be no
sin following the new birth. Like your water baptism, the Flood only washed
away or remitted earth's past sins. It has nothing to do with the future for
although "eight souls were saved by water", three of the eight were
subsequently lost. Ham was in the ark, so after the flood the earth was
repopulated by sinners.

Justification is the essential foundational experience of the Holy
Spirit. But as we have documented, it is not the new birth. When Paul
encountered some Baptists at Ephesus who were justified by faith, he asked,
"Have you received the Holy Ghost SINCE you were justified" (Acts 19:1-2).
And in Ephesians 1:13 he says that AFTER they were justified by grace
through faith they "were sealed with the Holy Spirit". In Acts 2:38 Peter
also places the Promise of the Holy Spirit AFTER justification by grace
through faith.

Justification, sanctification and the baptism with the Holy Ghost are
three steps in faith constituting the new birth. When a woman gives birth,
the water breaks first, typing justification and water baptism of the
Spiritual birth. Next is the blood, typing sanctification, and finally the
shock of cold air or a slap from the doctor causes the mortal spirit and
soul to enter, typing the revelation of the PRESENT Truth which gives the
new birth. All three steps are required for the birth.

The historic document is the result of more than 30 years of talking and
reading the Bible together in several countries. If but one of them had the
Holy Spirit they would have known the mind of Christ in under thirty
minutes: heaven and earth would pass away before that revelation could fail.
Modern-day These latter day Balaams want to force God to change His mind on
His Word (Titus 3:10-11).

The two churches have insisted on going forward despite significant
opposition encountered by The 

[CTRL] ELIBARIMDA: The book

1999-11-14 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Hello nice folks!

Someone know anything know a book edited  printed in Italia
which talk about the corruption of the Catholic Church? If yes,
where find something about it? If no resources on web, where buy?

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[CTRL] IRON CROSS HUMAN SACRIFICE

1999-11-14 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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IRON CROSS HUMAN SACRIFICE OF A BEAUTIFUL YOUNG WOMAN

From Rayelan Rushbacher

 Gunther once told me a story about the peasants near the Black Sea who
 had destroyed a group of blood drinkers with only pitchforks and wooden
 spears. He described the ritual that blood drinkers put their victims
 through. It was a sword dance where the victim was progessively sliced,
 not to kill the victim or cause them to bleed, but to raise the level of
 terror to a certain point where the soul was at its most powerful and
 then could be extracted. These people used a device. It was so heavy that
 it took four of them to plunge it into the heart of the victim. I was not
 clear on whether the blood of the victim also went into the four people
 who held the device, or if is was only the energy of the person.

 In this ritual, all four people shared the life or soul energy of the
 victim. This enabled them to live forever, as long as they had their
 device and victims

  But Gunther said that his ancestors led the group of peasants to destroy
 these people. He said they took the device and rowed out into the middle
 of the black sea and threw it in there. He also says the device is the
 reason the sea is called the Black Sea. He says that there are still many
 Satanist groups near Odessa.

  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Below is another email to me about the story of the Sacrifice and how it
is done and undoubtedly will be used through the SOLAR CROSS EVENT this
AUgust..

Barbara,

The story is an incredible one. I have a lot of details other than the
cross. Maybe one day, when I have the time, I will write it.

It involves true love, sexual torture, a torture sword dance, and a
beautiful nude woman spread eagle on the floor. The swordsman was a
dancer also. His movements were like a ballerinas.

The sacrifices were usually beautiful young women. they used young women
because the fear level is the highest in young women.

Once she was tied down she was usually raped by the ones who weren't
privileged enough to be part of the cross ritual... only four people
could carry the cross.

After the dancer had sliced her to pieces... the four men or women with
the cross began their own kind of dance and chant... they circled the
body chanting some ritual chant, and at the right time, they thrust the
downward pointing spike into her heart.

I do not remember Gunther telling me that blood spurted up through the
cross device... but it certainly seems possible that it did. What he said
is that the life force of the young woman would be sucked up into the
black cross and radiated out the four arms of the cross.

The handles at the ends of the cross were not at 90 degree angles. the
energy wouldn't flow properly around a 90 degree angle. There was a
slight curve. One of these days I will find the drawing Gunther made of
the device. I am sure I saved it... unless it is with all my things that
were left in Austria.

I am thinking about trying to write this up as a short story. I know that
the time frame was shortly after his relatives migrated from the Iraq
area to Hungary... they sojourned for a while by the black Sea... the
migration took several hundred years.

R

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[CTRL] The Origins of the Illuminati

1999-11-14 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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The Origins of the Illuminati

Not much has been said about the origins of the Illuminati. Some researchers
trace the origins back to the Bavarian Illuminati in the 1700's, but this
secret organization goes way back.

The Illuminati can be traced back at least 4000 years, but the first Order
wasn't fully established until the Babylonian era, around 1000 B.C. So around
4000 years ago the original Brotherhood was infiltratedHowever, the plans were
made already during the Sumerian era, in Mesopotamia, which is the land
between the rivers Tigris and Euphrates (Iraq), under the reign of King
Ur-Nammu. This was during the Third Dynasty of Ur, around 2112-2004 B.C.

The reign of king Ur was to establish which Brotherhood would come into
rulership, and the wars took place, which resulted in the erection of Babylon
the Great.

Then, during the Babylonian era, three Brotherhoods were established, still
fighting. They were:

The White Order (The White Brotherhood). This branch was operating from
Greece.

The Green Brotherhood (The Green Dragon), operated, and is still operating, in
Asia, which should not be confused with the Green Glove of Russia, which is
the Russian Brotherhood. The origins before they were established in coded
color Brotherhoods, the Brotherhood was called the Cult of the Snake, which
later in Greece took its form as the Cult of Aesclapios.

The Yellow Brotherhood, which had its seat in old Egypt.

The Green Brotherhood and the Yellow eventually merged into one, to what today
is called The Green Dragon. In the Babylonian era, the bloodline of the Green
Dragon was split in four directions and was thus thinned. The bloodline of the
White Order on the other hand, has been kept in a straight line from father to
son from the time of King Ur-Nammu, without being broken at all.

Most interesting of the three is therefore the White Brotherhood, which seems
to be totally unknown to researchers. It's a very secretive order, not
mentioned at all today. They were the ones who delianated the path of which
civilizations and societies were to take in the creation of their One World
Dominated Realm, which hence created and produced the Greek alphabet, politics
(the way it is used up to this very day), theosophy, philosophy (including the
"great" philosophers Plato, Socrates etc), government, military, education,
religion, segregated hierarchies and the Arian dream, used by Hitler and the
Elite. In other words, they are the source to the civilization we have today
in the Western World.

It's interesting how this fact has been hidden, as we look at it, most of the
Western World today operates on the same principles used by the old Greeks.

Ever since the beginning, it has been very important that the bloodline is
kept clean to keep the occult power, meaning that each generation must bring
to birth at least one son - preferably more than one, as we shall see.

To be able to enter the White Brotherhood you had to have a master's degree on
all various subjects that were related to secret teachings, and many of the
subjects were beyond the reach of the rest of society. ONLY men from the right
bloodline were allowed to enter. This means in practice, that to be accepted,
you had to be educated for 40 years(!). The same principle is in practice
today. Therefore it was important to give birth to as many sons as possible -
if one failed their degree, another one might pass.

This also explains why the Western civilization operates the way it does today
and one more bit of the puzzle is laid. The White Brotherhood laid the grounds
for the New World Order, passed it on to the secret societies, and the "Work
of the Ages" have continued ever since ...

Sources: Deep research into various Greek archieves

Published: Aug 14 1999

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[CTRL] Illuminati Grades

1999-11-14 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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FROM THE ILLUMINATI-GRADES

In the beginning there was Logos and Logos was with God (John 1:1).

This light, which comes out from the Father-region is called LOGOS, THE WORD or
from other different names like CHABD, SHABDA, NAM and NAAM. The old Egyptians
called it PTRA. Logos is a sound and light-stream which comes down from the
Father and passes through each and everyone, where sound is the essence and
light the substance.

Regarding to the esoteric schools there is nothing which is not light and all
light is consciousness and a thought. The purest light is pure spirit without
matter and it is space in itself. In the beginning there was nothing, and there
wasn't even a nothingness. This is Beingness, the true Father and which is
darkness, the invisible light, while light as matter is the true darkness which
forgot the true nature of light and is mobile light.

Light in itself is a thought and no-matter which comes about as matter only
when it is given attention, otherwise as energy. In this Father region no life
exists, just consciousness. Life envelops through movement and is consciousness
in movement. It's told that within this ocean of light and sound, everything
emerges. In its highest condition there is no light, just a sound of a one-hand
applause. When it meets resonance (attention) light emerges, which is matter
and which forms the form-giving creation.

The fulfilled Father/Mother is a homogenic ocean of pure spirit. It is perfect,
superior in itself to itself in an ecstatic condition of love and blessing.

Before birth and creation itself alone was consciousness. It was just it that
saw and just it to be seen. Its prime nature was love and there was nothing
else. All consciousness was directed inwards toward itself, and love was its
nature and essence, always active and required no object for to express itself,
it is nothing but a big reservoir of love. This unlimited reservoir of love as
in itself only existed, as with nobody exchanged its love. Everything has
emerged from this and therefore there is love in everything and wherein there
is no love, it can't be perceived (Phelps Notes by Myron H. Phelps 1947).

Out from Anami emerged a Word and Agam, Alakh and Sat Lok were created. The
Word was the essence and the word Sar emerged from Sat Lok and created 16
Nirguns, also called the father's sixteen sons, and Bhanwarguphá, Mahá Sunna
and Sunna. After a very long time the word from Sunna created Trikuti (the
kasual level).

It is on top of this region that the Buddhism Nirvana lies, or where the
Jew-created God's domains are positioned, or the Brhamma from Hinduism emerges.
It's the region where the mind and the mind-related creation emerges. The
regions from this level and thereunder is said to be ruled by the fallen angel
called Satan, the ego of truth or the I of God, the universal personality. Who
was the fifth of the sixteen sons and called Kal-Niranjan, which means time
beyond creation, or the outflow. The Devil Diablo which means the divider, him
who divided the unit into many. Him who got the mission to create God's own
creation and who then created his own creation under God's creation, as he
didn't like God's creation, as he wanted a creation to his own image. He is
Jehovah,with whom the Jews say they have made a treaty and who regarding to
them wished for Abraham to sacrifice his firstborn to him and who's existence
Buddha didn't know of, or the Hinduism, but in the Veda books were called Neti
Neti, not this and not that.

It is to him the soul is in debt; "an eye for an eye - a tooth for a tooth",
"the law of kharma", "what you seed you shall harvest" within his creation,
who's tribute he demands shall be paid by you or somebody else for you, before
the soul can be separated from the mind. The key to how the soul is separated
from the mind is not told within Buddhism or Hinduism.

In the higher spheres of Satanism the father shall sacrifice his first born son
in a fire ceremony, or the child shall sacrifice his father by killing him with
a double-bladed knife.

John Dee was an astrologer in the Court of Elisabeth I. He was also her
unofficial secret agent and signed his reports with 007. Dee was an adept and a
widely famous seer and said he was in contact with an angel with a wand. What
is reproduced below are a few pieces from the "19 keys" which was printed 1659
by John Dee.These are written in enochian, which is a language which is said to
be even older than Sanskrit. The sound from this language is like a mix of
Arabian, Latin and Hebrew. These 19 keys are the verses the Satanists sing in
their rituals in enochian and is then said to turn on vibrations in the ether
for to bring down the forces they address.

- Look! says Satan, I am a circle on which hands stand 12 Realms. In the
beginning I made you into marshals and placed you in the Board of the 12 seats,
giving to each one of you power over time, you true noble, and that you from
your highest, and from the 

[CTRL] IlluminatiNews: An overall briefing

1999-11-14 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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AN OVER-ALL BRIEFING

[Updated 9 March 1999]

Introduction
The Illuminati and the Black Nobility
Secret societies
The Satanists
The New Anti-Christ
The Bilderbergers
The Trilateral Commission
The Council on Foreign Relations
The Committee of 300


ALIEN SOCIETY
  |
GLOBAL ELITE (Black Nobility,
  Illuminati, Committee 300)
  |
   ILLUMINATED FREEMASONRY,
  KNIGHTS OF MALTA, SKULL 
 BONES, etc.
  |
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  |
   The Round Table/
   Royal Institute of Int. Affairs
  |
   Bilderberg Group
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Nation States
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  European Union and
Trading Blocs
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United Nations
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Media
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M A N K I N D


Look again at the table above. Have you seen it before? I'm sure most people
haven't. It was first exposed in a book by David Icke called "And the truth
shall set you free". This is the real power structure on planet Earth. It's
also the "chain of commands" which is valid today and has been for quite some
time now.

This whole thing might be unreal to many people, but I ask you to consider it.
Most of us can agree on that something is very wrong with this planet. Civil
wars, diseases, famine, ethnic cleansing, religious wars, different violations
of human rights... the list is long and it just goes on. Are all those bad
conditions totally separated from each other, or do they have a common source?

All I ask from you is to think for yourself. Throw away everything "you've been
told", things "you've learnt in school", what you've "heard on the radio", what
you've "seen on Television", what "politicians have told you" etceteras - just
for a moment. Let's start thinking for ourselves for just awhile. It's not too
often we do have that opportunity. We are constantly fed with propaganda, bad
news, opinions, lies and there are tons of untold secrets. Much of the lies
come through the media, which is owned by a few people at the top of the table
above. All and everything is to align with those people's intentions and goals.

These web pages have a certain purpose. First of all I will try to brief you on
the current scene, especially the political one, in the world of today. When
this is done, I will try to explain what is really happening, not the false
data you get when you follow the news on Television or in the papers. I will
try to comment important things we're fed with and explain or debate them. All
this based on the facts I'm going to give you soon. Also, these web pages will
be currently updated as new data come along. But to understand it all, you have
to be briefed on the scene of this planet, the version you were never meant to
get - the truth certain people don't want you to know...



THE ILLUMINATI AND THE BLACK NOBILITY

Illuminati means "the enlightened ones" or "bearer of light", which refers to
Lucifer or Satan. Those top players, called the Illuminati or Moriah, on the
International playground belong to the thirteen of the wealthiest families in
the world, and they are the men who really rule the world from behind the
scene. They are the "Black Nobility", the Decision Makers, who make up the
rules for presidents and governments to follow and they are always withdrawn
from public eyes, as their action can't stand scrutiny. Their bloodlines go
back thousands of years and they are very careful to keep these bloodlines
going from generation to generation without breaking it.

Their power lies in the occult and in economy - money creates power. They own
all the International banks, the oil-businesses, the most powerful businesses
of industry and trade, they infiltrate politics and they own most governments
- or at least control them. An example of this is the American election for
presidency. It's no secret that the candidate, who gets the most sponsorship
in form of money, wins the election, as this gives the power to un-create the
opposed candidate.

And who sponsors the "right" candidate? The Illuminati does. Sometimes they
sponsor both sides to have a game going. They decide who will be the next
president, and they see to that their man wins. Most president campaigns are
financed with drug money, which is understandable if you know that the
Illuminati run the drug 

Re: [CTRL] CONGRESS ACTION: November 14, 1999

1999-11-14 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Windows is the WORST system TODAY. OS/2 is preemptive multitask, Linux too.

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 10:52:03 EST, Bill Richer wrote:

MICROSOFT MONOPOLY: Our Department of "Justice" has won the first major round
in its anti-trust lawsuit against the Microsoft Corporation. According to the
judicial wisdom handed down last week, having a common operating system for
personal computers is not a significant benefit to consumers. Better,
according to the judicial wisdom, to have a multiplicity of (probably
incompatible) systems. Remember Beta vs. VHS videotapes? Eminent judicial

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: [sn-vesti 26327] NATO Peacekeepers - the worst savages of all !!! (# 1 out of 3)

1999-11-13 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Unfortunately, I have agree with it. "Peacekeepers" is a hipocrital term.

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 01:51:10 +0100, Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General wrote:

Subject:  [CTRL] Fw: [sn-vesti 26327] NATO "Peacekeepers" - the worst
  savages of
  all !!! (# 1 out of 3)

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Re: [CTRL] Connections To The Pleiades. Stargate/grid opening 3/10

1999-11-12 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 01:33:20 +1300, Nicky Molloy wrote:

I notice a lot of these people involved with the portal openings
say things like:  we should be gaia/goddess worshipers : we are descendants
of ETs or they created us in labs: the 6th Aryan race will be the only

6th race root? It is thing of the Theosophical Society! Beware of it.

people going into the next dimension; the ETs are going to activate cellular
memory in us when the world raises vibration when the Mayan calendar
indicates the end is nighetc Hard to pick out what exactly is going on

I dont think which too difficult to guess about it. It is more likely to be 
mindcontrol.

but presumably the Pleiadian descendants are the new Aryan/Nordic root race

Do you BELIEVE in it?

and they will be the only ones who survive the dimensional shift that they
have been working on to activate. They are going to somehow raise the
vibrations of the body, by opening the world's chakras and this will somehow
make the chosen one's chakras open and they go with the flow into a
different frequency. Please corrrect me if I'm wrong.

I dont think which "6th race root" is the "chosen people".

It is almost all mindcontrol.

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Re: [CTRL] Connections To The Pleiades. Stargate/grid opening 3/10

1999-11-12 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Yeah, I see this film. In one word: mindcontrol.

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 01:33:20 +1300, Nicky Molloy wrote:

By Mark Roberts.
In 1994, a fictional movie, titled "Stargate" arrived on the scene - I could
hardly avoid taking a look at what Hollywood had created from the word
Stargate. Afterwards, those who knew of my research were quick to ask my
thoughts on the movie. I smiled and replied that I had been provided with
the perfect opening for my research report, "If you liked the movie, you
will love the reality." However, I and all concerned, knew the matter ran
much deeper than a catchy phrase - the word Stargate had become the merging
point between fiction and reality. The cinema Stargate was an ancient

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Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-11 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:14:29 -0700, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:

P.S. Don't let those chumps that have been rude towars your
message over the last 36 hours discourage you AT ALLi.e.,
TIME IS SHORT, and you just gotta stay with those spirits THAT
ARE ABLE TO _HEAR_ YOUR UNIQUE INSIGHTS, i.e., there ain't no way
time enough to waste even replying to ppl that CAN'T HEAR!!

I agree, Mike! The site of our friend JAH is very interesting.

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Re: [CTRL] OT: Pat Robertson is Ready for the Revolution (fwd)

1999-11-11 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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"700 Club"? Somewhat similarity with "Committe of 300"?! (kiding!)

On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:31:43 -0700, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:

ROBERTSON URGES REVOLT, TELLS VIEWERS:

"THROW OFF THE SHACKLES" OF THE COURTS

On his TV "700 Club" broadcast today, TV preacher Pat Robertson

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Re: [CTRL] Knights of Malta

1999-11-10 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Publicly is so, but who knows what they really do?

On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:15:04 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

GroupWatch files are available at http://www.pir.org/gw/

Group: Knights of Malta (Caballeros de Malta)
File Name: smom.txt
Last Updated: 11/91

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[CTRL] Israel biological weapon

1999-11-09 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Israel working on biological weapon that targets Arabs

November 22 (?), 1998

LONDON (AP) - Israel is trying to identity genes carried only by Arabs
that could be used to develop a biological weapon that would harm Arabs
but not Jews, the Sunday Times reported.

The newspaper attributed its report to unidentified Israeli military and
Western intelligence sources. It said Israeli scientists are working to
create a genetically modified bacterium or virus that only attacks people
who carry certain genes.

The paper said the weapon is seen as Israel's response to the threat of
chemical and biological warfare from Iraq and could be spread by air or
through the water supply.

The newspaper said the program is based at the biological institute in Nes
Tziyona, which it described as the main research facility for Israel's
chemical and biological weapons. According to the report, researchers have
pinpointed "a characteristic in the genetic profile of certain Arab
communities, particularly the Iraqi people.''

The idea of such research has provoked controversy in Israel because of
parallels with the genetic experiments at Auschwitz by Nazi scientist Dr.
Josef Mengele during World War II, the paper said.

"Morally, based on our history, and our tradition and our experience, such
a weapon is monstrous and should be denied,'' Israeli parliament member
Dedi Zucker is quoted as saying.

Officials at Porton Down, Britain's biological defense facility, said such
weapons were theoretically possible, the newspaper said.

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[CTRL] Fact Sheet on the ADL

1999-11-09 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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The Campaign for Radical Truth in History http://www.hoffman-info.com

PO Box 849, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho 83816

Keep us Fighting - Send a donation today



Fact Sheet on the ADL

The ADL is "...one of the ugliest, most powerful pressure groups in the
U.S... Its primary commitment is to use any technique, however dishonest
and disgraceful, in order to defame and silence and destroy anybody who
dares to criticize the Holy State ('Israel')."

--Noam Chomsky, Professor of Linguistics,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology



Revisionist historian Michael A. Hoffman II (center) holds a copy of the "Fact
Sheet on the ADL" flier which he and two other activists distributed as they
picketed the appearance of Bruce Kort, ADL's Seattle regional director at the
Coeur d'Alene Resort, which can be seen in the background, in Coeur d'Alene,
Idaho


The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) gave an award Nov. 18, 1998
to the city of Coeur d'Alene. City Fathers assume this is something to be
proud of and have unthinkingly rolled out the red carpet for the ADL.

They think that an imprimatur from the ADL, a prominent Jewish group with a
multi-million dollar budget and substantial media clout, is a kind of
certification of our area's goodness. But in point of fact, hosting the ADL
and its regional Seattle director at the Coeur d'Alene Resort is a shameful
blot on our region.

The ADL is a branch of the masonic B'nai B'rith (Sons of the Covenant), which
was established Oct. 13, 1843.

Up until recently, for decades the chief "fact-finder" (head spy) for the ADL
was the late Irwin Suall. From 1957 through 1962, Mr. Suall was national
secretary of the Socialist Party. (1)

The ADL keeps extensive espionage files on those who are critical of Israeli
policies. Last year the ADL attempted to blackmail Benjamin Chavis, leader of
the NAACP, with some of those files. (2)

The ADL spies on American dissidents on behalf of the Israeli government.
Automobile license plate numbers of people attending a meeting of the
Committee on the Middle East were recorded by ADL agent Roy Bullock, channeled
through San Francisco police officer Tom Gerard, also an ADL operative, and
furnished to the Israeli government. (3)

The ADL claims that it has the right to "investigate" dissidents and "probe
into their private lives." When asked in court, "Does that mean anyone who
participates in a political rally can be the subject of an in-depth
investigation?" ADL attorney Stephen Bomse responded in the affirmative. (4).

In 1996 the ADL praised the prison sentence meted out to an American publisher
in Germany: "ADL today said it was gratified that a German court sentenced
American...Gary Lauck to four years in prison for...disseminating
anti-Semitic...hate material." (5)

In January of 1998, ADL Director Abraham Foxman ordered Metropolitan Books to
halt publication of "A Nation on Trial: The Goldhagen Thesis and Historical
Truth," a book which exposed fraud perpetrated by anti-German bigot Daniel
Goldhagen. (6)

Early in November of 1998, ADL Director Foxman was at it again, this time
ordering the media to ban black leader Louis Farrakhan from the airwaves.
Foxman's demand can be summarized as, "Keep Farrakhan off all the television
networks!" (7)

In 1993 the ADL illegally obtained California police and government records in
San Francisco on a wide array of dissident political groups and turned them
over to the Israeli government. Due to its enormous influence, the ADL escaped
criminal prosecution in return for paying $75,000 to groups that fight hate
crimes. (8)

The ADL "runs a nationwide surveillance operation on political groups with the
assistance of other law enforcement officials...The ADL spied on political
groups in the US and this information allegedly made its way to Israeli
security authorities." (9)

On Aug. 2, 1994 seventy-five Jewish-Americans accused the ADL of "engaging in
defamation" in the ADL's attacks on Christian conservatives. (10)

The seventy-five stated that the ADL uses "such discreditable techniques as
insinuation and guilt by association" to compile its secret files on
dissenters. (11).

On Aug. 9, 1994 Houston attorney Gary Polland compiled an analysis of an ADL
attack on Christians. "Among other things, the analysis demonstrates that
...(ADL Director) Foxman lied..." (12)

Syndicated columnist Mona Charen wrote: "...there is the crude, but undeniable
fact that the ADL is in the anti-Semitism business...It is playing upon
ancient fears...and it is doing so dishonestly, with quotes taken out of
context and flagrantly false accusations." (13)

In 1987 the B'nai B'rith of Canada was ordered to pay $400,000 for defaming a
Winnipeg woman. (14)

On March 14, 1996 the B'nai B'rith called a press conference in Toronto urging
the government to arrest revisionist publisher Ernst Zündel for printing
revisionist pamphlets the Zionist group abhors. (15)

Jewish journalist Robert I. Friedman says the ADL is "the 

[CTRL] Slaves in German

1999-11-09 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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September 24, 1998
German firms that used slaves to be sued

FRANKFURT, Sept 24 (Reuters) - Lawyers acting for slave labourers who worked
at German companies during the Nazi period are planning to sue 10 German
companies for compensation in U.S. courts next week, a Munich-based lawyer
said on Thursday.

The names of the companies included in the legal action will be made public
next week, Michael Witti told Reuters, calling on both the companies involved
and the Confederation of German Industry (BDI) to enter discussions with the
lawyers.

"Any firms who try to find a solution without us are making unnecessary
problems for themselves. The subject of forced labour will not be cleared
from the table that easily," he said.

No indication was given of the amount of money that will be sought in the
court case.

This latest legal action comes one month after a U.S. class action lawsuit,
brought by Witti and U.S. lawyer Ed Fagan, seeking damages for survivors who
were among some two million people forced to work in Nazi factories between
1933 and 1945.

The class action suit named many top German companies, including Siemens AG
Volkswagen AG, Daimler-Benz AG, BMW AG and Henkel.

Witti said that an announcement on Wednesday by Siemens that it planned to
set up a 20 million mark fund to compensate slave labourers was merely an
attempt at an easy solution.

"The plaintiffs see this move as an attempt by the firm to get out of the
problem as cheaply as possible and the suit will continue," he said.

He called on Siemens to open up its archives to help clarify the extent to
which slave labour was used at the company during the Nazi period.

The establishment of the fund by Siemens AG follows the announcement earlier
this month by Europe's biggest car maker Volkswagen AG that it, too, would
set up a 20 million mark fund.

Siemens has previously acknowledged using slave labour, but it has not agreed
to most appeals for compensation, saying the German government is the legal
successor to Adolf Hitler's Third Reich and has already paid such claims.

Heinrich von Pierer, chief executive of Siemens, has gone on the record
saying that the group has a "moral responsibility" into this case, and has
voluntarily given "several millions of marks" to the Jewish Claims
Conference.

The movement to win compensation for former slave labourers, concentration
camp prisoners and others persecuted by the Nazis has gained momentum since
Swiss banks agreed to a $1.25 billion settlement in August.

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[CTRL] Professor Israel Shahak's bookreview

1999-11-09 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Professor Israel Shahak about Jewish "Religion"

Bookreview:

When the Roman historian Tacitus pointed out 19 centuries ago that the Jews
are unique among the peoples of the world in their intense hatred and
contempt for all peoples but their own, he was only repeating what many other
scholars had discovered before him. For the next 1,900 years other
investigators came to similar conclusions, either from a study of the Jews'
religious writings or from a study of the Jews' behavior toward non-Jews.

Notable among these was the reformer, Martin Luther, who in 1543 wrote in
"Von den Juden und Ihren Lugen":

 "Does not their Talmud say, and do not their rabbis write, that it is no
 sin to kill if a Jew kills a heathen, but it is a sin if he kills a
 brother in Israel? It is no sin if he does not keep his oath to a
 heathen. Therefore, to steal and rob, as they do with their usury, from
 a heathen is a divine service. For they hold that they cannot be too
 hard on us nor sin against us, because they are of the noble blood and
 circumcised saints; we, however, are cursed goyim. And they are the
 masters of the world, and we are their servants, yea, their cattle...

 "Should someone think that I am saying too much, I am not saying too
 much, but much too little. For I see in their writings how they curse us
 goyim and wish us all evil in their schools and their prayers."

The Jews responded to Luther like they responded to all the others. They put
him down as just another "hater," blinded by religious bigotry. And today
that's still the Jews' standard answer to everyone who says or writes
anything about them except the most fawning praise.

When British newsman William Cash, Los Angeles correspondent for London's
Daily Telegraph, reported late last year in a magazine article the simple
fact that the executives in Hollywood's motion picture industry are nearly
all Jews, they shrieked at him, "Hater!" and denied his fact. When famous
actor Marlon Brando later repeated the same fact, he was as well attacked for
being an "anti-Semite".

Thus, Israel Shahak's book "Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of
3,000 Years" is all the more important for being a document by a
aknowledgeable Jew -- a Jewish "insider" -- about the beliefs and behavior of
his fellow Jews. Born in Warsaw in 1933, Shahak spent a portion of his
childhood in the concentration camp in Belsen, from which he immigrated to
Palestine in 1945. He grew up in Israel, served in the Israeli military, and
became a chemistry professor. Like all Israelis, he became fluent in Hebrew.
He also became acclimated to the peculiar moral atmosphere of Israeli
society: a combination of overweening arrogance and deceit, a mixture of
pugnacious self-righteousness and duplicity.

Unlike his fellow Israelis, however, Professor Shahak is deeply troubled by
this peculiar atmosphere. Whereas the Jews around him take it for granted
that the goyim on whom they depend for economic, military, and diplomatic
support are too stupid ever to figure out what the Jews think about them and
say about them behind their backs and plan to do to them when they can, and
too sheeplike ever to take effective action if they do figure it out, he
worries. He remembers that the Romans figured it out, and they consequently
sacked Jerusalem and ended their cult in Palestine. He remembers that the
Germans figured it out, and that's why he became an involuntary tenant in a
concentration camp. He's worried that if his fellow Jews continue behaving as
they always have, they will get themselves into some really serious trouble
-- again.

In particular, Professor Shahak is concerned about the behavior of those of
his people who adhere to "Judaism". He is not one of these himself, and so he
is able to look with some degree of objectivity at the mixture of
superstition, Jewish chauvinism, and hatred of non-Jews which makes up the
Jewish religion and its sacred writings. He deplores traditional Jewish
teachings, not only because of the danger that some new Martin Luther will
come along and spill the beans to the Gentiles, but because of the
spiritually debilitating effect these teachings have had on the Jews
themselves. Of the world of medieval Jewry in Europe, the world of the ghetto
and the shtetl which modern Jewish writers refer to in euphoric tones as a
world of quaint tradition and piety, Shahak says: "It was a world sunk in the
most abject superstition, fanaticism, and ignorance ..."

He cites a number of specific instances of the ways in which Jewish religious
authorities have kept their flocks under control. In general, the rabbis have
taught their fellow Jews that their Gentile neighbors are spiritually and
morally unclean; that they are subhuman, on a level with the beasts of the
field; and that they hate Jews and must be hated in return. Jews are taught
that the Christian religion is a religion fit only for animals, and that its

Re: [CTRL] SYMBOLS.com

1999-11-09 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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On Tue, 9 Nov 1999 07:58:07 +1300, earthman wrote:

Maurice Chatelain was an aerospace electronics engineer, one of the
scientists who conceived and designed the Apollo spacecraft which landed on
the moon.

Moon landing?!

http://iresist.com/cgoc/coffee/index.html#index
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[snip]
Read the following carefully,  and I suggest you sign up for the newsletter
from  Bible Believers.  There is  a lot  of very  good, and  very important
information that they have  to share. Is it all absolutely true? Sorry, you
have to be the  judge of that; just remember, they are men as well. And, as
you read, remember the  shield around the earth before the flood, and where
the water came from.

Establishment thinking  is reflected  in "Report from Iron  Mountain on the
Possibility and Desirability of  Peace" compiled from three year's research
by  15  experts, and  submitted  to  the US  Government  in 1966.  Proposed
replacements  for  war  included:  an  open-ended space  program  aimed  at
unreachable targets and an  extraterrestrial threat. (Note; I have seen and
read a  copy of this report, and seen the  evidence of itÆs authenticity. I
believe the report is exactly as presented here. - David)

In 1976,  Taylor Caldwell demonstrated in her  summary of the Iron Mountain
Report, the  military genius  of plans by  Rothschild, Albert Pike  and the
World  Revolutionary Movement  She wrote:  "There will  be no peace  in the
tormented  world,  only a  PROGRAMMED  and  SYSTEMATIC series  of wars  and
calamities -- until the  PLOTTERS have gained their objective: an exhausted
world, willing  to submit to a planned Marxist  economy, and total and meek
enslavement --  in the  name of peace."  (Taylor Caldwell, Ceremony  of the
Innocent,  p.289, Fawcett Books  1976; Leonard  C. Lewin, Report  From Iron
Mountain  On  the  Possibility  and  Desirability  of  Peace,  1967;  Ralph
Epperson, The Unseen Hand, 1985;

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bb990304.htm#World War III ).

Let's  quickly  examine  these   two  proposed  replacements  for  war:  an
open-ended   space   program  aimed   at   unreachable   targets,  and   an
extraterrestrial threat.  There are no "aliens"  to visit from outer space.
Scripturally  there is  life  on no  planet other  than  earth. Man  is the
highest form of life and he has NOT landed on the moon.

In 1961, William Branham said: "If you go to the moon you couldn't set down
because see,  you'd jump right back  up unless you had  some magnet to hold
you there.  (Low gravity).  You couldn't stay  over night; you'd  freeze to
death. (One  lunar night is 336 hours long). In  the daytime you'd burn up.
(One lunar day equals  fourteen Earth days, but the temperature is constant
265 degrees  F). What  are you going to  do when you get  there?" (Basis of
Fellowship  61-0214) (A  lot of truth  here. And  this matches some  of the
discussions I have had with various scientists. - David)

The moon  is almost 300,000 miles above the  earth's surface. Two Van Allen
belts  located 300  and  2,000 miles  above  earth protect  us from  deadly
radiation. The tremendous solar and cosmic radiation encountered in the Van
Allen  Belt, temperature  control and  other problems connected  with space
travel  prevent living  organisms  leaving our  atmosphere. NASA  faked the
Apollo moon  landings. No man has been higher  than 300 miles above Earth's
surface, orbited  or landed on the moon.  Certainly not with any technology
Americans claim to have  used. (This is interesting, and you had better pay
attention. Is this absolutely true? Probably. - David)

If you doubt this,  explain how the astronauts walked on the moon's surface
enclosed in a space  suit in full sunlight absorbing a constant 265 degrees
F. NASA  tell us  the moon has  no atmosphere and that  the astronauts were
surrounded by the vacuum  of space. In this case they couldn't have walked,
and the  footprints which  were photographed could  not form on  the moon's
surface where gravity is so weak and the atmosphere so thin.

Most, if  not all,  of the photos,  films and videotape of  the Apollo Moon
Missions are  easily proven false. Their  psychological effect, however, is
very  real, and  intended to establish  in people's  minds that if  man can
travel to  the moon, alien creatures can reach  our earth. The moon landing
was a  psy-op by those lovely people who brought  us Pearl Harbor, the fire
bombing  of  civilians  in   Dresden,  atomic  bombing  of  Japan,  Nazism,
Communism,  the  Federal  Reserve,  IMF,  UN, and  that  little-known  real
holocaust of  over two million German  soldiers murdered by American Jewish
"revenge" (for what?) regiments in the two years AFTER World War II. (David
Irving, NUREMBERG: The Last  Battle, Focal Point Publications, London 1996;
James Bacque, Crimes and Mercies: The Fate of German Civilians Under Allied
Occupation, 1944-1950,  Warner 

[CTRL] You Dont Say That!

1999-11-08 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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http://www.devvy.com/~devvy/fred.html

  [Image][Image]

  ---

"To feed a starving child is to exacerbate the world over population
 problem."

Dr. LaMont Cole, Yale University environmentalist

 "Right now there are just way too many people on the planet. A total world
  population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels
 would be ideal."

Ted Turner, husband of Hanoi Jane Fonda, Chmn of the Board of Turner

Broadcasting, who owns CNN; Director, Martin Luther King Center.

"Every child who believes in God is mentally ill."

Dr. Paul Brandwein, leading U.S. child psychologist

 "We reject the idea of private property."

Peter Berle, former President, National Audubon Society, Board Member,
Sierra Club

 "I would think that if you understood what Communism was, you would hope,
  you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become Communists."

Jane Fonda, wife of Ted Turner. American women have poured

double digit millions of dollars into her pocket for her fitness videos

Telling people how to get a figure created through plastic surgery

 "If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer
 virus to lower human population levels."

Prince Phillip, husband of Queen Elizabeth II, founder, World

Wildlife Fund. Do you suppose his offspring think any differently?

Like father, like sons..

 "We've got to ride the global-warming issue. Even if the theory of global
  warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic
policy and

  environmental policy."

Tim Wirth, former member of Congress, U.S. Under Secretary of State for

Global Affairs, and one of a number of politicians (including Barbie Boxer,

Barney Frank, AlGore, John Kerry, Daniel Moynihan, Chris Shays and others)

who have been identified as "Green Leadership for the '90's."

Had enough yet? Horrified? I hope that black Americans can forgive me for
this next one, but it is important for all Americans to hear the words of
liberals - words that the mainstream, or what I call the government's media
apparatus, never breathe on the 5:00 news:

"[S]ome nigger, some junior high [school] nigger kicks Steve's

ass while he was trying to help his brothers out...Steve had

the nigger down...He had the nigger down; he let him up"

Roger Clinton, brother of Bill, singer, former cocaine addict, former drug
dealer. This was taken verbatim off the surveillance tapes from the
Arkansas State Police, June 27, 1984.

Fred Gielow has just released his new book, You Don't Say. 196 pages of
quotes from people who consider themselves to be of the liberal political
and moral persuasion. I know you, just like me, are sick and tired and fed
up with the controlled media smearing each and every honest, decent, hard
working American in this country who is trying to expose the corruption and
treachery of the shadow government pulling the strings of Congress.

We are equally fed up by the complete fools who are in our state
legislatures, city councils, schools boards and non-governmental
organizations who are destroying everything this country has ever stood
for. It's time we used their own words to show the real agenda of these
caring, compassionate liars. It's time we used their own words right back
in their face and this book provides an phenomenal amount of their own
words to cook their gooses.

I encourage everyone to order this important book and give it to a liberal
or someone who defends Bill Clinton, the environmental wackos, those who
patronizes companies advertising on CNN and say this: "Gee, I just got
finished reading this book. I value your opinion and was wondering if you
could take the time to read it and tell me what you think?" This is a
non-confrontational method of getting someone of an opposing viewpoint to
read a book or watch a video. Most people are flattered when someone asks
for their opinion - especially liberals since they are usually full of
themselves and think they are superior to the rest of us

This book is a very easy read and Fred has laid it out in a form which
makes you want to turn page after page. Even I was shocked - something very
hard to do - by the documented quotations in his book. These people are
even more evil and sick than I thought. Call talk radio and give a couple
of quotes out of this book, along with the source. This can be an excellent
tool for talk radio and it's up to US to see that it gets the widest
dissemination into the public domain.

You Don't Say by Fred Gielow can be ordered through Accuracy in Media at
1-800-787-4567; cost is $16.00 + S/H

Let me give you a couple more quotes from those caring, compassionate
liberal nut cases:

  "Human happiness and 

[CTRL] MS is...

1999-11-08 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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AWOSOME article! MS is band of... Well, you what I mean.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/991105-21.html

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[CTRL] Page access denied

1999-11-08 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq?

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:29:16 -, JAH Publications wrote:

They are the old and the new Babylons - Revelation 17:5

I read, but dont understand yet. What is all about?

Read http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/robab.htm

Access denied. :(

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-11-07 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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AGREE! It is a point very important.

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 09:52:07 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The "Illuminati's" concept of who "Satan" is might not be what the rest of us
 expect ...

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-11-07 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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I see which know about mind control. It is very interesting!

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 09:52:07 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The "medium" --Bowie as performer-- is the message, so don't bother looking
 for any "message" in his lyrics.  Whatever is deemed meaningful by the
 literate left-hemisphere of the brain is a "straw dog" --something used
 mostly to misdirect and fixate conscious attention, "hypnotizing" the mind--
 so that more important nonrational, nonverbal stimuli can penetrate the REAL
 target of "mind control," the right hemisphere's "unconscious."

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-11-07 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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I dont know anything about Bowie but read a little bit
about Crowley then please, talk more about Bowie.

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 09:52:07 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 **The lyrics of "A Space Oddity," for example, could be interpreted
 metaphorically as Bowie's experience of what's called in Crowleyite magick
 "the crossing of the Abyss."

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Re: [CTRL] Pope Challenges AngloAmerican Policy Toward Iraq?

1999-11-07 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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It need be backuped by the Bible. Very much research too!

I dont have formed opinion, yet. The Great Beast may be or may not be he!

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:15:06 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What was that about Saddam Hussein being the Great Beast?

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-11-07 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Jagger  Bowie. h... Now I understand. Weird.

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Dear Rodrigo,

Conjugal rights are what a married couple have.

Peace be upon you,

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