Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Rearview Mirror: The day Jimmy Hoffa didn't come home
-Caveat Lector- Zionism and Communism - ever hear of the word Collusion? Pick a side, want to be a Nazi, a Communist? Today I would say to all Democrats look at your party - you are in bed with pigs an do not know it. Zionism and Communism equals Fascism the ultimate goal? For they are all in the same pig stye now - the Democrat Party. Hitler was back by Zionists - many jews went to slaughter but 55 million people died in that war - not all were homosexuals, gypsies, and jews? We were taught in this country we fought for our Constitution which by oath we swear to defend from the enemy from within and foreign? So how did a big pig like Henry Kissinger, a German Jew Zionist who was KGB Agent Code Name Bor for Communists - how did that big fat sows ear get so much power? Why he was a kept man - a male prostitute equalled by none.Clinton too lates realizes what a fool he was to open the door to a fat pig with pizza pie? He will get his revenge, be assured. He already is getting his revenge. Meanwhile Arab Nations like sleeping lions await the attack People are getting sick of hearing of a holocaust that took the lives of 6 million jews, when 55 million were killed in that war and do not tell me that American soldiers died for anything other than our Constitution? American is beginning to become one big pig stye under Zionist control.by their fruits you shall know them - watched any TV lately? Saba Leaky pipes - hey I knew a good Watergate Plumber may I recommend him to you? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Jew, Fight Fair!
I still remember an Arabian Prince who would have been King had his father not been murdered sitting at our table who said (and at the time I had little interest in such matters) in 1967 - the domestic jews and arabs would live in peace, but the Zionists will not let them. Aren't all Kings supposed to be brothers? With all the little masonic secrets? Why does it take billions of dollars from the USA to Israel to fight off a handful of Palestinians? Seems to me there is Sharon with the match as he so stated, and the Arabs with the oil - but who is attempting to light this match to trigger holocaust in which all would be killed? Isn't it all in the game plan - to kill all in Holy Land to make room for the Hotels, Motels, Gambling Houses, High Rises for the Rich and more Affluent? Cannot have beggars in the streets as Castro did for when they show their teeth - well at Waco they did not even show their teeth to have wrath of God upon themand then came Timothy McVey with words Wrath of God carefully circled in a Gideon Bible? Note - in this story once again Note Israel to be the Light Unto All Nations - a light unto my feet and I remembered the lamp of Gideon on the front of the Gideon placed biblea lamp unto my feet but people are blind to the light? This September my bible calendar goes through Isaiah -the lamp, unto our feet about to be trampled under? The date of September 27th (as Amelia pointed out) is a very important date. Have you seen the pictures of the young Israeli soldiers being sent to slaughter? As a result they are put into a very particular problem for life is cheap - we gave them the means to destroy every Palestinian in the area... They have a slaughterman in Sharon - he is an old man, whom the Palestinians refer to as the fat slob who is no longer a romantic figure, they say - but since when is a slaughterman ever a romantic figure unless it would be Jack the Ripper who made love like - maybe Bill Clinton? Hitler said a country is like a woman - likes to be beaten into submission..some say this is why some women marry truck drivers - This is a good item here worth reading - but then while some have seen this great light who was it they said turned it off? Could it have been Satan? Nothing worse than a big bully defending himself against sticks and stones with panzer tanks and flamethrowers and Uzis. Saba http://www.masada2000.org/FightFair.html
[CTRL] Fwd: Israeli Soldiers Often Die For Nothing!
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Re: [CTRL] Bush 'faith-based' plan tied to Vatican hopes for USA
-Caveat Lector- Well Neuropsychotic - Baptists and Methodists are the same thing with one exception - one drinks in public and the other drinks in private (like Gary Condit maybe for he led two lives). That is the only difference..one puts on better front, than the other. Never trusted anyone that didn't have at least one little minor vice. So Howdy and Sayanora, Neuropsychotic. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Israel - Facts on Trafficking and Prostitution
Interesting item here - which I will reproduce along with one by Dr. Pierce whom the ADl calls a Nazi? See how the notes compare - Dr Pierce wrote Turner Diaries and oh so dangerous for young people to read..but the filth and garbage they see on TV and sodomists being thrown at them on a dialy basis and little kids being given to lesbians and queers for toys.who is right and who is wrong? Paula Poundstone and Rosie O'Donnell - both have come out of the closet the former charged with lewd and lascivicious behavior with a child and the latter had long tale of woe and was a protected species. Suffer little Children? I say NO - No More. Saba CATW Home Factbook Factbook on Global Sexual Exploitation Israel Trafficking There are no official numbers regarding the extent of prostitution and the traffic of women in Israel, but there is a general consensus that it is becoming more prevalent. (CEDAW Report, 8 April 1997) There has been a steady increase in the numbers of foreign women involved in prostitution who are arrested for illegal stays in Israel and who are detained before being deported to their home-countries; in over 95% of the cases, they were from the former USSR. The average time these women spend in prison is 50 days. The women themselves are supposed to pay for their expenses to leave Israel, but when their resources are inadequate, the Ministry of Interior finances their deportation from a special budget. (Authorities, Neve Tirza women's prison, CEDAW Report, 8 April 1997) Traffickers and pimps earned US$50,000 - 100,000 a year from each prostituted woman, resulting in a US$450 million sex industry. (A modern form of slavery, The Jerusalem Post, 13 January 1998) 1,500 Russian and Ukrainian trafficked women have been deported from 1995-1997. (Michael Specter, Traffickers' New Cargo: Naive Slavic Women, New York Times, 11 January 1998) Russian women are bought and sold by pimps in Israel for prices ranging from US$5,000 to $20,000. (Police sources, 'Invisible' Women Shown In Russia's Demographics, Martina Vandenberg, St. Petersburg Times, 13 October 1997) A small brothel with ten women can make up to 750,000 shekels a month (US $215,000). (Michael Specter, Traffickers' New Cargo: Naive Slavic Women, New York Times, 11 January 1998) Women trafficked from Eastern Europe, were stripped and sold naked as slaves to Tel Aviv traders for US$500-1,000. Smuggling, fraudulent documents, collaboration between police and brothel owners are involved. There are routine brutal beatings and sexual abuse. (New York Times 11 January 1998) The non-profit Israel Women's Network estimates that 70% of prostituted women in Tel Aviv, Israel's commercial center, come from the former Soviet republics, and that about 1,000 women are brought into Israel illegally each year. At any one time, as many as 100 women may be awaiting deportation in Neve Tirza women's prison near Tel Aviv's Ben-Gurion airport, a prison spokeswoman said. (Elisabeth Eaves, Israel not the promised land for Russian sex slaves, Reuters, 23 August 1998) A poll by the Women's Network showed 44% of Israelis believed all Russian immigrant women provided sexual services for pay. Illegal immigrants in Israel, who are mostly Russian, are often stereotyped as having brought crime and prostitution while exploiting Israeli laws enabling anyone with a Jewish grandparent to immigrate.(Elisabeth Eaves, Israel not the promised land for Russian sex slaves, Reuters, 23 August 1998) Official Response and Action While trafficked women are frequently arrested as illegal workers, the men who brought them to Israel -- many of whom are Israeli citizens -- are not. Justice Ministry spokeswoman Etty Eshed said the government would think about making legal changes to address trafficking in the near future but had no date or plan for doing so. (Elisabeth Eaves, Israel not the promised land for Russian sex slaves, Reuters, 23 August 1998) Police in Israel say they are powerless to stop the flow of trafficked women until the laws change. They (trafficked women) are very much afraid to come to the police and complain, so the police really can't do anything, said spokeswoman Linda Menuhin. The problem is there is no law against trafficking people, and no law against prostitution. Rachel Benziman, legal adviser to the Israel Women's Network, said there are a variety of crimes -- rape, abduction, battery, deceit and theft -- which the authorities rarely bother to prosecute for, even though they have the power to do so. It's not a problem of finding the right section in the criminal code. It is more a problem of finding the women who will testify and finding the motivation. When it comes to drug dealing, the police don't wait for someone to come into their office and say they have found drugs. They look for it. We expect them to do the same thing for the trafficking of women -- but they don't, she said. (Elisabeth Eaves, Israel not the promised land
[CTRL] Fwd: The Saudi Arabian Information Resource - Crown Prince Abdullah arrives in Paris
Well Neuropsychotic - in this item you will find reference to the young man who would have been King had his father not been murdered by a Zionist Black from Berkley. His father, the King had made the statement in 1967 he hated' Zionists - Rockefeller cancelled his dinner out of frustration but we never really did find out if he actually made the statement, for it was not said in English. So the State Department sent me the flags which flew in New York for we had the Young Prince coming in (I had wangled this for our city and I worked for the Mayor at the time)..so we had the flags, and the young Prince arrived with his crew in huge automobile, but this young Prince was a kind and gentle man, and we entertained him for the better part of the day. Today he is in Intelligence as you will note in this one item; for your information if you want to check out the story when we entertained this little Prince the local jews threatened to tear down the Arabian flags I personally assisted in putting up in his honor.my boss when I told him thought it was funny for these men were supposedly friends and they were now going to attemt to ruin out dinner. So we went ahead with our dinner..had a wonderful time and it was August of 1967 and the story hit all over the world. The Jewish War Veterans who once before had contacted me, came to our defense and said the Young Prince should not be held responsible for what his father, had said. The father did not say he hated Jewshe said he hated Zionists and to me there is a big difference between the domestic jew in the Holy land and the Zionist, to which Prince Faisal referred. I cared nothing for politics at the time; I took advantage of working for the Mayor and got the Prince to come to our town.we took him to the swimming pool and I mentioned there is my son, who was so young then - and he smiled and walked over to him and introduced himself - and my son was thrilled to death. He wanted to see our sewage plant and lo and behold, the street on which it resided was John Street and I did not know that.. I gave him a book as a gift - The Country in Which We Live - he read it as he left, looked up and smiled - He was handsome in a tuxedo and had been at a party earlier at some big fancy affair, but the dinner we had was beautiful with an ice swan in champagne punchFrench Champagne - and might add while we were upstairs, in the basement of this restaurant - well few years later I saw the neo nazi literature published by this Jewish Mafiawouldn't you know the fanciest restaurant in town, and the son was in with - well that is another story. Today this young Prince I once met seems to be activating - he heads up the intelligence - and it is Osama bin Laden who wanted to restore the rightful King to the throne, which at the time would have been him. It was however, all changed, for when they murdered his father - the brother took the throne. Now at the time, this guy drove out in huge car - Rolls Royce as I recall or Mercedes - we had press from all over the country there.the chicken la mared Mayor of Columbus, was to have him as guest too but when The King said I hate Zionists that asshole ended up in a hospital and the dinner was cancelled. No flags were torn down, but later the Jewish War Veterans were kind enough to say a few kind words for the Prince. Have an interesting item I am sending on Brandeis whom McVeigh quoted - and his idea of the Zionist dream was not the idea now held by the pigs in the ADL Hope this suffices, Neuropsychotic now if you want to validate the story send item to Columbus Historical Society for they archive all news stories - it was August 1967 - and well covered internationally, I might add. Let us say we put this rinky dink town on the map and gave it a little class..and we were Democrats. Today I am a Republican, for the Democrat Party is now controlled by Murder Inc., and this is the element that not only murdered the real democrat party, but JFK, MLK, RFK, shot George Wallace and tried to kill Reaganand then the little Princess boy had she gotten in with little John John or this Arab Fayed who descended from Anient Pharaohs, those Zionists would be out of there. Fiat. Oh, that was the name of the car in which they found the tabloid reporter's body whom some believe, ran them off the road? Have item re Bob Pope, CIA whow ran National Enquirer - all this stuff beginning to piece together - for you see my old MI6 friend who was also best seller author worked for that creep and detested him...bread and butter money, for those cheap English do not pay MI5 and 6 many bucks. Saba The Saudi Arabian Information Resource Table of ContentsIndexMapIssuesNewsGallerySend a message 28/06/2001 Crown Prince Abdullah arrives in Paris Paris, 28th June 2001 Crown Prince Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz, Deputy Premier and Commander of the National Guard, arrived in Paris tonight for a several day
[CTRL] Fwd: The Konformist - Daddy's Little Princess
This is an item worth reading as it alludes to many different areas; one in particular this guy named Pope Now my old friend with whom I worked for 12 years Sybil Leek, MI6 trained by Ian Fleming when young worked for the National Enquirer and told me Pope was CIA which I did not find too strange; however, she neglected to tell me he was in with Meyer Lansky through Lucky Luciano? So in this article you find reference to this Pig Michael Jackson now on comeback trail - the pedophile who pranced on the democrat stage with the children like a little peter pan? See the connections here - and consider Los Angeles, now pig stye with Larry Flynt and Dr. Irving Moskowitz into the gambling and pornography - their casinos are nothing other than laundering points for drug money for strange other casinos go busto out there. Strange too how some of these sick twisted perverted sickos thrive in such hard times.note in Israel pornography, prostitution, white slavery, child porno and child prostitution on rise - they try to blame the Russian Mafia but what are they - they are the Jewish Mafia, one and the same. Look at the pictures of little beautiful JonBenet dressed like a showgirl with her hair pieces and bleached hair and lipstic painted lady - and then consider the Santa Claus who was there who wrote the book describing such a murder before it happened - like the FBI agent who had son who made video of Littleton before it happened? Well that's show biz. If people are going to let this piece of shit Michael Jackson come back - they will get what they deserve. I still remember that kiss between Jaco and Elvis little girl, where she almost choked - but when the mob tells you to do something, you do it and this was not exactly a marriage made in heaven, but a NWO Mafia Marriage as sick as they are. This item is worth reading..note how the National Enquirer protect little lesbian fatso Rosie O'Donnell and Paula Poundstone - oh Paula, she was drunk - she ws drunk okay and performed lewd and lascivicious acts upon her hcildren? While Rosie's little girl with the knocked out teeth and damaged nose who she said on air, was accident prone and when comparing her other child to the child of a guest - she said oh how smart her beautiful child was while her child, was duhhh and that du stuf is about as stupid as somebody can get with fatso Rosie's mouth, the duhhh was - well she is so cutsie pooh and she plays the male role, I understand and claims she was used by this little blonde who now has gone back to a man.poor used Rosie. Wonder what the police really found those 3 nights they were called to her house. So much for the National Enquirer - still run by organized crime for I cannot blame the CIA..this Pope might have been contract CIA, but doubt they would let a perverse piece of garbage like that into the famly. This article too long to reproduce but anyone wanting to read about conspiracy it is a good oneand by the way INRI and Joshua your petticoats are showing again. What an asshole you are Joshua2. Saba http://www.konformist.com/jonbenet.htm
[CTRL] Fwd: Middle East History: Justice Brandeis Was the Savior of Zionism in America, by Donald Neff, Aug/Sept. 1996
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, that the United States of America favors the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of Christian and all other non-Jewish communities in Palestine, and that the Holy places and religious buildings and sites in Palestine shall be adequately protected.14 Read this and wonder why Timothy McVeigh quoted Justice Brandeis uon being found guilty. See Israel today what Zion Butchers have made it - land of pornograhy and prostitution and white slavery, Jewish Mafia and Russian Mafia controlled by Zionists...see work of Larry Flynt in evidence and Irving Moskowitz who used their dirty money to spiritually sodomize the public and steal Arab land. See the vision of the United States and Brandeis dream as written above being corrupted - even the Israeli young men today are beginning to see what evil is being done in the name of Zionism Saba Middle East History: It Happened In August Justice Brandeis Was the Savior of Zionism in America By Donald Neff August/September 1996, Page 38 It was 84 years ago, on Aug. 13, 1912, that Louis Dembitz Brandeis, a future justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, made a personal decision that would have a profound effect in establishing Zionism in the United States and thereby securing America's eventual support for the Jewish state of Israel. Zionism had been founded 15 years earlier in Europe, but it had failed to gain much support among Jewish Americans. It had probably fewer than 20,000 followers from within the 2.5 million-member American Jewish community before World War I. In the words of a pro-Zionist writer, American Zionism then was a small and feeble enterprise.1 A historian of the movement described Zionism at the time as still small and weak, in great financial distress, and low in morale.2 This began to change after an August 1912 meeting Brandeis had with Jacob de Haas, editor of the Boston Jewish Advocateand an early Zionist. A decade earlier, de Haas had been an aide to Zionism's founder, Theodore Herzl. Intrigued by de Haas' tales of Herzl and the beginnings of Zionism, Brandeis hired de Haas to instruct him in Zionism over the winter of 1912-13. At the end of that time Brandeis was a convert to Zionism.3 Within two years, on Aug. 30, 1914, Brandeis became head of the Provisional Executive for General Zionist Affairs, making him the leader of the Zionist Central Office, which had been removed from Berlin to neutral America just before the outbreak of World War I. Brandeis, the son of middle-class immigrants from Prague, was a brilliant attorney who had graduated at the top of his law class at Harvard. In 1912 he was 56 years of age, a wealthy Bostonian, a political progressive, a tireless reformer and one of the most famous attorneys in the country, known as the People's Attorney because of his successful litigation against big business on behalf of labor. His courtroom victories brought him riches as well as the enmity of the business establishment, including the wealthy Jewish communities of New York and Boston.4 What made Brandeis' conversion so surprising was that he was a non-observant Jew who believed firmly in America's melting pot and had grown up free from Jewish contacts or traditions, as he put it.5 It was not until he was in his 50s that Brandeis began paying attention to the Jewish experience. His sense of ethnic kinship had been sharpened by the turn-of-the-century wave of new Jewish immigrants that had led to rising anti-Semitism in America and at the same time had exposed Brandeis to Zionists. These influences came while his popular causes had estranged him from the Brahmin society of Boston and the New York business community, leaving him isolated from the mainline Jewish community. New York's and Boston's prosperous upper-class Jews rejected Zionism's pessimistic tenet that anti-Semitism was inevitable. Instead, they believed in keeping an ethnic low profile and seeking social assimilation with other Americans. The elite position and wealth enjoyed by upper-class American Jews proved to them that the American melting pot worked. The last thing they wanted was an ideology that advocated establishment of a foreign country specifically for Jews. They feared this would not only bring into question their place in the melting pot, but also their loyalty to the land that had brought them a comfortable and secure life. Implicit in Zionism was the sensitive issue of dual loyalty toward a Jewish state and toward the nations in which its supporters actually were living. Opponents of Zionism in America included Jewish socialists and workers, who disdained it as a form of bourgeois nationalism. Ultraorthodox Jewish religious groups went even further, describing Zionism as the most formidable enemy that has ever
Re: [CTRL] Bogus Proof of Hate Actually a Scathing Indictment of Mo Dees HILARIOUS!!
-Caveat Lector- Hey you should read the divorce documents on file which at one time reproduced on the net. Morris Dees of the Poverty Stricken Law Center also made a movie for which he paid and no doubt produced - showed him with his daughter standing in front of a Christmas tree, as though that pig was a Christian and not a scum bag. If what Mrs. Dees said was true this man should be in jail. But money - well look how the Zionists and ADL have received Larry Flynt who now run and operate the once great Demorat Party? This bastards - these are the ones who murdered their way into take control of it for as I was told long ago we need the structure of the party and this pig I had to call for my boss - this Zionist pig - had the guts to tell me then what they wanted and I did not realize what he had said. We had a democrat party in those days - now today in Columbus, it is a black man's party and city and what the hell, you see now why Lex Wexner moved to my home town - they created a Frankenstein Monster. Well the Hispanics I have known are very high type people - you see quality in the one who married into the Bush family - a handsome young Hispanic and oh, you could see the hatred in Jesse Jackson's henchmen when this man spoke once - the camera's flicked on them for they caught it too. Maybe be will be all saying Viva Zapata before it is all over; but Jesse Jackson and Mo Dees and Al Foxman like Clinton, all belong in Harlemn and wait until they find out what a pack of trash has gotten into bed with them. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Prince Turki Al Faisal
Further Neuropsychotic - here is a letter the Prince wrote with regard to his mother upon hearing of the murder of his father, the King. Osama bin Laden worked to get the rightful heir upon the throne - however, the family seems to get along pretty well and are still united. Saba Letter to My Mother Prince Turki Al-Faisal, guest contributor, 28 February, 2000, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. This article appeared in Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper. 'O (thou) soul, in (complete) peace , and satisfaction! Come back thou to thy Lord,- well-pleased (thyself), and well-pleasing unto Him! Enter thou then, among My devotees! Yea, enter thou My Heaven!' My dear mother, Praise be to Allah that you have returned to your Lord, as He said all righteous souls would, well-pleased, and well-pleasing unto Him, your soul in complete peace and fully satisfied. How could it be otherwise? When the doctor asked you how you could take the decision for the operation so quickly, you replied: 'Had you not suggested it yourself? And my child, I don't fear death.' Mother, you did not fear death, nor did you fear life. You faced it day by day and battled it hour by hour. When you came to Makkah as a teen-ager, married to your cousin Faisal ibn Abdul Aziz, you did not retreat to your room. You did not cry because you had come far away from your mother and brothers, to a land and language you did not know. You embraced your new life, taught yourself to adjust to the new surroundings. You worked hard to become a strong support to your husband in his dreams and yearnings. You argued and debated with those who opposed them. When anyone opposed his views, he would send them to you. You would convince them. When you decided, you and your husband, that your sons and daughters deserved an education, you did not bring home teachers for them; you built learning centers that are still there benefiting all. When the drive to educate boys in the Kingdom was launched, you campaigned to make the education of girls equal to that of boys. It was a defining moment in King Faisal's history when a group of prominent citizens came to him protesting the establishment of girl's schools in their region. He told them: 'If you don't want to educate your girls, it is up to you. Don't send them to schools. But, for those who wish to educate their daughters I will open schools, even if they be in the middle of deserts.' My dearest mother you were at peace with yourself all your life. That won for you the love and admiration of all. When you started charity societies, you were awakening Saudi women's interest in, and zeal for, charitable deeds - and the results are there: charitable societies of women operating throughout the Kingdom. Yes my mother, your sense of peace born of your absolute faith in God was the pillar of your life even in the darkest of moments. You were a lofty tree that provided shade and shelter for those who came to you. I will never forget that terrible day when I came to you to tell you of your husband's death. I did not know how to break the news. I said he was wounded by a gunshot and was taken to hospital. Did you cry? Did you scream? Did you faint? No, by God, you sprang up, pulled your robe on, and told me: 'No! my husband has been killed. Take me to my husband. Quick!' That was you, my mother. I will never forget your last advice to your sons, daughters and grandchildren: 'Don't keep away from each other. Be concerned about the welfare of each one of you. Bring the smaller ones closer to you. Don't mistreat anyone and don't be unfair. Make people love you.' By Allah's Grace, mother, we will. Mother, you have gone from this mortal world - but your name is on every lip. Young and old, men and women are praying for you. You have gone to the eternal world, have returned to your Lord, and are back with your husband, your life's companion. Happy we are mother for the bliss you are in; happy are those who were sheltered by you, while among us. http://www.arab.net/arabview/article.asp?artID=23
[CTRL] Fwd: Report says Aaliyah's plane was substantially overloaded
Well looks like they took off with a bigger load than when they went in? Strange to hire such a pilot who was going to slammer on cocaine charge? Strange how nobody seems to check these planes for drugs and this little girl had been number one on all lists on net, against guns? Now what about these private planes flying about with these rock stars.and oh those rap stars in shoot outs..such lovely people. Drugs galore - and MTV this little girl was on doing a snake dance, with real live snake maybe 20 feet long. Somehow it suited her personality. Saba Aaliyah Report says Aaliyah's plane was substantially overloaded FORT LAUDERDALE, FL - September 10 - A preliminary report says the plane that crashed with Aaliyah aboard was substantially overloaded. [wonder if it was snowing at the scene - Saba note] The weight of the luggage, fuel and passengers exceeded the maximum weight for the Cessna twin-engine plane. The National Transportation Safety Board released its findings Saturday. No mechanical problems were found. The plane took off from the Bahamas on August 25th -- then crashed -- killing the singer and eight others aboard. An investigator says neither the company that owned the plane nor the company that chartered it had a permit to operate commercial charter flights in the Bahamas. Twelve days before the crash, the pilot was sentenced to three years' probation for cocaine possession. [what only three years? no jail? shame he beat the rap, or did he..Saba note] Current Conditions 67° HIGH 73° LOW 64° »TOP STORIESLOCAL SPORTSLOCAL WEATHER MORE L.A. NEWS RECIPES HOT FROM HOLLYWOOD FREE E-NEWS ALERTS Get breaking news delivered to your desktop and daily E-News alerts. Choose more local news from participating MSNBC affiliates Question or comment for our newsteam? Send us an email MSNBC is optimized for: Microsoft Internet Explorer Windows Media Player MSNBC Terms, Conditions and Privacy © 2001 Cover | News | Business | Sports | Local | Health | Technology | Living Travel TV News | Opinions | Weather | Comics | Information Center | Help | News Tools | Write Us | Terms, Conditions, and Privacy http://www.msnbc.com/local/KNBC/NBCM3GH3GRC.asp
[CTRL] Fwd: LA named America's hunger capital
Well I see here in this group of do gooders now the Sheriff who when watching a man burn alive with his dog said oh no it is going just as we plannedthis vicious bastard on county payroll - a man burned alive, and he says it was part of the plan? So now we have Larry Flynt and Irving Moskowitz being greeted on all fours by the city fathers throughout the area for they are reopening casinos, etc., something which has always proven to operate at a loss in the area? LA Times also now has a Porn Column so you see how these criminals have sold out - but we were warned, they are mainlining pornography now. And Flynt hasn's learned his lession yet? He has always been a front man for the mob - and with a criminal sodomy charge against him in Cincinnati - they call this a respectable front? So see now how much Los Angelos cares for people - movie stars long used to run drugs, and rock stars as well used - but why let them contaminate Los Angeles further. ' Did these people suddenly go hungry over night while the pigs cups runneth over? While gambling casinos are now being promoted - doesnt this sound like Castro's Cuba when he took over same and threw the bastards out - people starving, while Meyer Lansky and his henchmen ran the gambling houses, drugs, and prostitution and pornography? Right of return? Well looks like the chickens or shall we say vultures, came to roost to California. And it also looks like a few Sheriffs and policemen and city officials are on the bit time take. Remember the name Sheriff Boca - he watched while a man burnt to death with his dog and said nothing to worry about - it all went as planned. Maybe when Los Angeles his hit by the big one - and some of these bastards are swallowed up like Kore and the people dancing in the shoddy construction example of mafia contracting - remember the ones where the press said at this wedding they were all dancing, havin fun and boom...it was like the earth swallowed them all up..shoddy construction, not hand of god. Or was it. Saba LA named America's hunger capital STUDIO CITY , September 7 - The city of power lunches, with an economy comparable to that of most countries, also had the distinction Friday of being nation's hunger capital. Thursday, elected officials and food bank directors from around Los Angeles declared a critical shortage of emergency food supplies and called for a collaborative effort to alleviate the problem. There is no excuse for the fact that half a million Angelenos go hungry every night, said Los Angeles Councilman Eric Garcetti. He was among those who spoke to reporters at the North Hollywood Interfaith Food Pantry. This is a crisis of emergency proportions, and we need to begin addressing it as such, the first-year lawmaker said. Garcetti said families and other residents typically spend half their incomes on rent, squeezing food budgets and ultimately putting pressure on supplies at food banks. He suggested increasing the number of food markets and community gardens in hard-hit communities. Sheriff Lee Baca showed up to support the effort. It is a public safety issue to not have food, he said. It is a public safety issue to be mentally ill. It is a public safety issue to be homeless. Every American deserves to have a safety net. According to studies done by the county health department, about 584,000 people in Los Angeles County go hungry at some point during the year, and an estimated 1.4 million experience some sort of food insecurity, which includes poor nutrition. This shouldn't go on in the U.S. and certainly not in one of the most affluent counties in America, said Jay Levin, president of Share With the Other L.A. Campaign. Major food banks and charitable groups in the county are trying to jumpstart an effort they call the L.A. and California Hunger-Free Zone Program. Organizers have set up www.lapoverty.org and a toll free number at (877) NO-HUNGER to assist members of the public in getting involved. Senate Majority Leader Richard Polanco, D-Los Angeles, is committed to working with (the anti-hunger groups) to see what we can do out of Sacramento, according to his aide Bill Mabie. Current Conditions 60° HIGH 77° LOW 64° »TOP STORIESLOCAL SPORTSLOCAL WEATHER MORE L.A. NEWS RECIPES HOT FROM HOLLYWOOD FREE E-NEWS ALERTS Get breaking news delivered to your desktop and daily E-News alerts. Choose more local news from participating MSNBC affiliates Question or comment for our newsteam? Send us an email MSNBC is optimized for: Microsoft Internet Explorer Windows Media Player MSNBC Terms, Conditions and Privacy © 2001 Cover | News | Business | Sports | Local | Health | Technology | Living Travel TV News | Opinions | Weather | Comics | Information Center | Help | News Tools | Write Us | Terms, Conditions, and Privacy http://www.msnbc.com/local/KNBC/NBCCSE7E8RC.asp
[CTRL] Fwd: Marc Rich's Hidden History as a Union-Buster
Now why do you think the FBI cares about Jimmy Hoffa when with this man, Marc Rich they have a live one - a man who bribed the President of the United States, an organized crime figure who gave $250,000 to the ADL for pay for a pardon? This man tried to destroy steelworkers union..he is a piece of sleaze in with George Soros - and this garbage is attempting to buy America..is this what Freemasony is all about or is it the Bnai Brith brand of Freemasonry - Murder, Inc. Saba back to NewsCenter Sunday September 9 , 2001 Share This Article With A Friend Featured Views Published on Monday, February 12, 2001 Marc Rich's Hidden History as a Union-Buster by Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman Longtime fugitive from justice Marc Rich has become the most notorious recipient of a presidential pardon since Richard Nixon. President Clinton issued a pardon for the commodities trader in the final hours of his tenure in office. What is now widely known about Rich has cast a dark cloud over what Clinton hoped would be a glorious exit from the presidency. Charged with income tax fraud and conspiracy, Rich fled to Switzerland, from which he could not be extradited. Living in the lap of luxury, he continued his wheeling and dealing in international commodities markets, including through trades with apartheid South Africa. He invested heavily in seeking a pardon, courting the Israeli government (dethroned Israel President Ehud Barak personally lobbied Clinton for Rich's pardon), hiring top-ranking officials from Democratic and Republican administrations to represent him, and relying on his ex-wife to lavish money on Democrats during the Clinton years. What is not widely known, at least outside of West Virginia and certain labor circles, is that Rich played a central role in one of the highest profile union-busting efforts the United States has seen in recent decades. In the early 1990s, Marc Rich was the power-behind-the-scenes at the Ravenswood Aluminum Corporation (RAC) facility in Ravenswood, West Virginia, site of one of the most embittered U.S. labor-management disputes of recent decades. The Ravenswood conflict has been chronicled by Tom Juravich and Kate Bronfenbrenner in their inspiring account, Ravenswood: The Steelworkers' Victory and the Revival of American Labor (Ithaca, New York: ILR/Cornell University Press, 1999). In 1990, in a premeditated effort to break the union, RAC locked out its 1,700 workers, members of the United Steelworkers of America, and hired permanent replacements. As the contract deadline neared, RAC installed surveillance cameras, new security systems and a chainlink fence around the perimeter of the facility. The night of the lockout, the company brought in a goon squad security force equipped with riot gear, clubs, tear gas and video cameras used to constantly monitor the workers' pickets. The goons introduced a climate of fear and made violence on the picket lines, and in the town, an ever-present fear. Caught unprepared, the Steelworkers' local was able to keep all but a handful of workers from crossing the picket line and union solidarity was strong and militant, but RAC was ready to wait the workers out. As the lockout progressed, the Steelworkers' international union became engaged, and eventually launched a corporate campaign to complement the local's efforts. That corporate campaign took them to Marc Rich. The Ravenswood plant, which had been owned by Kaiser Aluminum for four decades, passed into the ownership of RAC in 1988. The union discovered that, behind a convoluted corporate ownership smokescreen, stood one man with a controlling interest in RAC: Marc Rich. It is unlikely that Rich initially knew what RAC was up to when the lockout began -- RAC was just a piece in his global corporate puzzle. But about four months into the conflict, the union had made the Rich connection and was calling on him to end the lockout. From that point on, Rich was culpable for what went on and the suffering the Ravenswood workers went through, says Bronfenbrenner. For 20 long months, the workers lived on minimal strike benefits, six months worth of unemployment benefits and donated food and supplies. Being out of work for so long, even from a lockout where union solidarity remains high, takes an emotional toll to match the financial one. It is no exaggeration when Bronfenbrenner speaks of the suffering of the workers and their families. As the Steelworkers tracked Rich to Switzerland and began applying pressure on his business operations in Europe, the corporate campaign moved to a new plane and the union discovered how extensive was Rich's reach. Soon they found themselves negotiating with Leonard Garment, White House Counsel under Richard Nixon, and William Bradford Reynolds, the number two at the Reagan Justice Department. Both Garment and Reynolds worked for Rich -- who would later show that he was right to trust in high-priced, politically connected
[CTRL] Fwd: Tim McVeigh's Forum
Interesting item.maybe someone will avenge the death of the dog at least, and the man who died in the fire - burned alive by BATF and FBI and local Sheriff's office - meanwhile Larry Flynt and this Dr. Irvining Moskowitz contine to set up gambling operations and laundeirng of dirty money while at same time paying off the city fathers and police? So McVeigh took the law into his own hands for nobody else seemed to want to bother with, well Joshu's trailer trash - for it was just the sins of the father being visited upon the children? Today in Israel this one piece of garbage just said from now on the sins of the children will be visited upon the fathers.see how magical this bible calendar code is? Bible all programmed for murder and the take-over of America. So I repeat the words of Walter Lippman he so stated right before the attempt was made (2nd attempt) to murder Edward M. Kennedy - surely the democrats will be punished and their offices taken away. So sayeth the Zionist Movement, Inc. an affiliate of Murder Inc, or is that the other way around. 109th Psalm and 110th Psalm this is Zionist prayer for murder while their hired guns aim for the heads? Like Lincoln, like JFK, like RFk - and then Reagon and Wallace survived..note road to Zion being carefuly paved with long lines of body bags and toss in the AIDS from Africa and get the picture? So Timothy McVeigh is Hailed as a Hero...too bad he was not stationed is Israel for he would have given Sharon a real run for his corrupt money. Saba http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/McVeigh/default.htm
[CTRL] Fwd: Rearview Mirror: The day Jimmy Hoffa didn't come home
As I recall, didn't this McClellan of the McClellan Committee originate in Arkansas? Remember in Washington when Clinton stood there and invited the people into the WTO saying we want you all in? Jimmy Hoffa had been marked for murder and it was not the Italian mob so doing.take good look at this CFR for either the Union Leaders turned traitor to the Unions in those days, or they were eliminated. Nice story of Hoffa; his publisher for his Last Testament, was Stein and Day.but Hoffa was gone, before it hit the standHoffa never sold out to the Mafia. Now Hoffa always said there was no Mafia or organized crime - and so did J. Edgar Hoover - he just called it what it was, communist/zionism - for this evil element was behind the murder of many a good labor man - always liked the Molly McGuires and detested, the informers.. The Mollies went to their deaths wearing red roses on their lapels..Hibernians, and as they say all Mollies were Hibernians, but no all Hibernians were Mollies? Hoover said Communist when at the same time he meant, Zionist/CommunistMasters of Deceit? There is no Mafia - check Bnai Brith and ADL. Saba http://detnews.com/history/hoffa/hoffa.htm
Re: [CTRL] Jimmy Hoffa
-Caveat Lector- Well they threw Jimmy Hoffa a bone with this Criminal Justice Association. I think Hoffa left a trail and I hope it is true that this Doctor Donald Plotnick got him away - for when his Stein and Day book hit the fan, before it hit the shelves - Hoffa had disappeared. Two men on a horse? For all these men were Masons? But where they Bnai Brith Masons? As my old friend used to say, always ask COLLEEN - cui bono.who profits. Well Frank Fitzsimmons was one, and that guy sent two Masons with shoulder guns to call upon me after J Edgar Hoover had told him, that I was getting stuff on my own - and this was the very restaurant where the young man would be for his father owned the place (and the motel, and 10 houses and arena on same tract of land - had been huge farm for raising horses).so - no doubt he had a hand in it too...so here we had the Teamsters attempting to get me in trouble with the FBI So they were Fitzsimmons personal henchmen but sure were quick to tell me they were Masonicwore the big rings.. But I shall never forget this guy - a Dow Norman or Norman Dow - driving big Electra Buick loaded with extras corning me at our round table when I was left alone (our democratsmeeting in back room) - he said you will never be closer to the Mafia than you are here, right now..well I had news for him, I was a hell of a lot closer than that before for I had worked for a Godfather and did not know it. In fact he owned the restaurant. So Mafia, Masons, FBI, CIA like Mollie McGuires - not all Hibernians were Mollies but all Mollies, were Hibernians. And to add further insult to this impled threat by their presense - the woman who brought them to the meeting with the big check a mere $500.00 donation to our club for oh they fell all over those bastards then in this rinky dink town.this woman was the former paramour of Leon Yassenoff - that Klebold kids, grandfather.. If you could have seen those two hoodlums sitting on either side of me - in an attempt to intimidate me and telling me that J. Edgar Hoover had cleared me that all the information I had I had gotten on my own. And then - this is why I wrote Hoffa and told him I thought they planned to murder him. A little ESP at time helped? Saba Truth is often stranger than fiction - but this Teamster element always went Republican so what were they doing at my Democrat meeting with a gift of money? Because they bought their presense in the door. . A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jimmy Hoffa
-Caveat Lector- Might add Amelia, Barry Goldwater had all kinds of mafia and vegas connections.it was alleged a 32 Degree Mason was sent in to clean up the Vegas mess. In Bobby's book, The Enemy Within, Bobby refers to a Mafia professor who wrote cabalistic symbols on a blackboard for his students who were Mafia children. The words this professor wrote were From the Garbage, there Blooms the Rose..I used this as a sub title to my ms.for this was the cartage business and then King went down to his death to march for Dues Check Off - invited to h is death by the AFSCME AFL CIO Jerry Wurf's men who was CFR. This Hoffa would never have betrayed his men. So the chapter I liked in my manuscript which drew the attention of a few people to which I sent copies (my last revised edition) was Is This the Mafia, Mason, FBI, KKK, CIA Lodge...for believe me, maybe all the Masons are not Mafia, FBI, KKK, or CIA, but the CIA sure as hell used to be all masons.even the KKK used masonic rituals and my bible calendar was once used by CIA and the KKK has their own little title. As a sub title I had One Big Happy Familybut those Masons are worse than the FBI. Saba Would Be Dragon Slayer By the way this one idiot asked me once AYUK..and I said no, I am not in the KKKand Joshua, you asshole - got two tens for a five? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Who Paid for the Fireworks Extravaganza for Less than 150 People?
-Caveat Lector- Well more than 150 people called to complain, so that must have been some show and scared a hell out of a lot of people. Remembered this though years ago they actually had a UFO above the White House.now this was during space race, etc. Do not think anyone even complained for UFOs in Washington, were no big secret? Had nice music album once called Music to Scare the Hell out of Your Neighbors - Albert Schweitzer playing Bach, German Music with Air Raid Sirens Playing - now this scared the hell out of me and my dog. You think they would have sat back and enjoyed the show - after all, they paid for it. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CTRL] Fwd: Congo Cancels Israeli-Diamond Supply - Global Policy Forum - UN Security Council
-Caveat Lector- Amelia - remember Terry Nicols had gold and he did go to Philipines. Read something on web recently about all the gold Japan had stashed on Philipine Islands.this might be why Japan has slowly virtually bought this Island.Marcos Gold I think was hidden in this dead volcano, at least a portion thereof Will check out on Nicols.it all looks like big drug, gun running, and what have you; but what I wonder about most, is this KGB paying this FBI agent partially in diamonds? So many diamonds floating around..by the way this guy here in our area, this doctor who was in same cell as Hoffa - this is the one who was also into guns, drugs and pal of Meyer Lansky but Hoffa and he were friends and Hoffa trusted him - the one I was told who got him up to Canada (and he called his boat The Great Escape).the guy did have a sense of humor. I see now why this Herzi wanted Uganda for the Promised Land - big foot in Africa and they are after the natural resources, aren't they? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 14-year-old struck by lightning during football practice
-Caveat Lector- Colonel Beardon, Amelia - has stuff on this artificial lightning. Wonder if it was a new football field, and if the lighting system had lightning boxes.lightning usually hits tallest thing on field, right - and lightning boxes supposed to take the hit? So maybe they got a problem.have been hit here so many times and it occured to me when I first got hit, maybe the lightning box blew for it sounded like an explosion. Doesn't an entire field become magnetized. I saw the one hit about 20 feet from me looking out my window, and it was a big ball of fire and it killed my beautiful evergreen.then my Web was ruined, my TV later was knocked out and a hit in back again. So when lightning hits same spot twice got to be a reason. Anyway, they missed me. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Condit rules out re-election bid
Well now that he has nothing to lose, he has everything to gain? Condit rules out re-election bid Announcement won't come for at least another week, sources tell NBC NewsSeptember 7 Rep. Gary Condit, D-Calif., will not annouce his decision until the state Legislature ends its current session next week, NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports, quoting sources close to the congressman. MSNBC STAFF AND WIRE REPORTS Sept. 7 Rep. Gary Condit, battered by scandal following the disappearance of Chandra Levy, has decided not to seek re-election to Congress next year, sources close to the Democratic lawmaker told NBC News on Friday. But Condit's chief of staff, Michael Dayton, denied his boss had reached a decision on whether to seek a seventh term. THE SOURCES, who spoke with NBC's Andrea Mitchell on condition of anonymity, said that Condit would not announce his decision until after the California state Assembly ends its session at the end of next week. Condit has no plans to retire before his current term expires, the sources added. The California legislators are in the midst of drawing up a plan that could redistrict Condit out of a job. If the redistricting goes through, as much as 40 percent of the electorate in Condit's district would be made up of voters new to the district, many of whom would have no knowledge of Condit as a congressman other than what they have heard during the search for Levy. Condit's political future has been in question following his actions in the wake of the disappearance of the 24-year-old Levy in Washington, D.C., on or about May 1. It was later disclosed that she had been having an affair with the congressman. Investigators say they have no clues about Levy's whereabouts and do not consider Condit a suspect. He still could face an investigation by the House Ethics Committee, though his decision to retire makes that unlikely. He also is likely to retain his seat on the House Intelligence Committee through the end of his current term. The lawmaker also is the subject of a preliminary obstruction of justice investigation because he initially did not disclose his relationship with Levy to police. GRAND JURY REACHES DECISION Separately, a woman who claims she, too, had an affair with Condit has asked a grand jury in California to investigate the lawmaker. Advertisement The Associated Press on Friday quoted a Stanislaus County employee as saying that the grand jury had reached a decision on whether to conduct such an investigation. But the employee, Marnie Ardis, said the results of the secret vote of a 19-member civil grand jury Thursday night won't be made public. Instead, she said, the decision was being relayed in a letter sent Friday to the attorney of flight attendant Anne Marie Smith. Smith's lawyer, James Robinson, held a news conference on the courthouse steps last week to announce he was going directly to the grand jury with allegations that Condit, his chief of staff, Mike Lynch; and Don Thornton, an investigator for a California lawyer who has represented Condit, obstructed justice by encouraging Smith to commit perjury. Smith, 40, claims Condit and his intermediaries tried to get her to sign a false affidavit denying they had an affair. She said they had a 10-month romance. Condit has denied asking anybody to lie. His attorney, Abbe Lowell, said Smith and the congressman apparently have different definitions of the word relationship. Legal experts say it would be highly unusual for a county grand jury to undertake such an investigation of a case that wasn't presented to it by prosecutors, though it has a legal right to do so. DAUGHTER APPEARS ON TV Condit's decision not to run again if confirmed would match the wishes of his family. His son, Chad, indicated last week that the congressman's family didn't want him to seek re-election. At the same time, family members have taken to the airwaves in recent days in an effort to rebuild the congressman's battered reputation. On Wednesday, Condit's 26-year-old daughter Cadee gave a spirited defense of her father on CNN's Larry King Live. My dad had nothing to do with the disappearance of Chandra Levy, Cadee Condit said in an interview for CNN's Larry King Live. I don't blame him for anything. ... I'm OK with my dad. We've discussed this. Cadee Condit, the 26-year old daughter of Rep. Gary Condit, defends her father in an interview Wednesday on CNN's Larry King Live. Cadee Condit said Levy was old enough to make her own decisions: With the 24-year-old thing, you know, people have said that we're close in age. I'm a grown woman, and anyone close to my age can make decisions for herself. Saying it was horrible ... to watch your mom and dad be demonized by the press, she took aim at Democrats Rep. Dick Gephardt of Missouri and California Gov. Gray Davis for
[CTRL] Traficant and JJ Cafaro
Here is ineresting item re James Traficant, Congressman who asks for more time to prepare his case. Note JJ Cafaro, one big time contributor to Democrat Party including the Hollywood Bash with Barbara Streisand who has turned against his old pal to keep out of slammer or is it a set up. You think JJ Cafaro will miss the money as he is one of the top 10 jewish contributors to Democrat Party; however, he gave to Republicans too for after all the money he gave, Gore and his boys lost - including Lieberman (luckey for Gore). JJ Cafaro donated $500,00 to Klingle Park School where his daughter went - they use the parking at Klingle Manson where Chandra last took a trip surfing on her computer? Chandra also was into newspapers and Mat Drudge which I found strange for perhaps she was looking to talk to somebody about her romantic involvement with USS Congressman? Note - Condit took the US Congressman as he predecessor as I recall was into some shady areas; Condit voted more Republican as did Traficant - ' Traficant had some dealings with US Bureau of Prisons where Chandra worked and I wonder if she ever made connection to him - be interesting to find out of Traficant knows something we do not know? You think Traficant is corrupt and crooked? Consider ADL taking $250,000 in bribe for President to pardon Marc Rich? Is Cafaro Jewish Mafia? So Cafaro had a I Have Sinned Jimmy Swaggart open confession and took a chance with guilty plea.. Something does not quite ring well here - after all Barney Frank hired male prostitute and ran male prostitution from his home and so cutsey pooh for fags are in style? Now we have the corrupt Janet Reno going to run for office in Florida - the baby murderer? Saba Two stories here - real tear jerkers The Business Journal OnlineSeptember 2001 Full Text of Traficant Petition for More Time, Private Meeting 09/07/01 IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF OHIO EASTERN DIVISION UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, Plaintiff, V. JAMES A. TRAFICANT, Defendant Case No. 4:01 CR 207 JUDGE LESLEY WELLS REQUEST FOR EX PARTE, INCAMERA REVIEW OF AFFIDAVITS EVIDENCE; REPLY TO AUSAs' RESPONSE TO DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO REMOVE AUSA MORFORD Now comes the Defendant, James A. Traficant, Jr., Pro Se, and replies to the government's Response to Defendant's Motion to Remove AUSA Craig S. Morford Sanctions, as follows: 1) On August 20, 2001, Defendant filed a Motion to Remove AUSA Morford with sanctions; additional materials and subsequent pleadings on this issue were filed on August 24, 2001. 2) On August 27, 2001, the Court ordered that Defendant Traficant shall produce and file with the Court forthwith, but in no event later than 7 September, 2001, all affidavits and other evidence of factual bases he currently processes [sic] for the broad allegations he set forth in both of his motions to remove AUSA Morford. 3) Defendant has since filed evidence on August 28, 2001, in support of the motions in question, but is leery of publicly filing further sensitive evidence and materials in light of the nature of these motions, which allege that AUSA Morford should be removed for misconduct, obstruction, suborning perjury, and intimidation of witnesses, as well as other offenses cited in three separate motions regarding same. WHEREFORE, for the reasons set forth below, Defendant, Pro Se, prays the Court stay its Order of August 27, 2001, and grant him leave to file additional evidence on or before October 3, 2001, or at a time convenient to the Court, wherein this evidence can be viewed by the Court in an ex parte, in camera inspection; in the alternative, Defendant respectfully requests that these pleadings/materials be filed under seal by on or before October 3, 2001, or at a time set by the Court. Respectfully submitted James A. Traficant, Jr., Pro Se 125 Market Street Youngstown, Ohio 44503 MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT THEREOF Defendant has legitimate concerns about filing sensitive materials because of his belief of misconduct of AUSA Morford as set forth in three previously filed motions. As a result thereof, an in camera, ex parte inspection by the Court and/or filing under seal is warranted. As an analogy, AUSAs are often leery of filing sensitive materials in Court and, in order to protect their witnesses, they often file these materials under seal or in an ex parte, in camera manner. This is the whole purpose of the Jencks Act [18 U.S.C. SEC. 3500] [Congress enacted the Jencks Act in response to Jencks v. U.S., 353 U.S. 657 (1957)]. Also, in a FOI/PA [Freedom of Information and Public Records Act, 5 U.S.C. SEC. 525(b)(7)] context, the government is exempt from disclosing matter derived from confidential sources due to the inherent sensitivity of such materials. Defendant has these same concerns. AUSA Morford and/or his office, continually feed the media in areas that are unethical and/or illegal. For example, as previously pleaded, according
[CTRL] Traficant's bills would aid friend, paper says
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[CTRL] Fwd: Conspiracies Against al-Islam and Humanity
Years ago I wrote this black Islam bunch in New York and hey sent me all their past publications of nearly a year..in these publications I wondered - for these blacks were not real Moslems this I knew but I wondered why they hated the Pope and the Kennedy family - and this House of American Black Islam, were operating like Black Mafia using masonic rituals, etc. Then it occurred to me - what? To hate the Pope so but now one word against the Jews? This Mid East News I note is always demoralizing crap to read for it writes enough you think it might be fair reporting - but at the same time it spreads doom and gloom to Arabs who if they really wanted to, a cheap flyswatter would rid them of the great state of Israel? Israel has big mouth - but with USA Zionists standing behind them - well they all talk big but now their soliders are beginning to see the light and have taken heed of the words sticks and stones could break my bones - and they want no part of the mass murderer Sharon's glorious dream of hanging Palestinians to trees upside down on the family tree of true semites murdered by the Zionists. So Black Panthers and Black Nationalists are instruments of the Zionist Brigade..true moslems are aware of this but I do not understand why they do not challenge this crap - for instance, remember the Black Panthers stalking Mrs. Bush - wonder they did not have star of David stamped on their Uzis. So you see whenever you see word Organized - you will find a Zionist behind every tree but the woodman is slowly burning if not cutting down these trees where visibility is no longer poor. Take Farakkhan - the Great Farakhan - at least he brought out about Zionists and ADL and Federal Reserve and Mafia all sleeping in the same bed - but it is getting rather crowded these days and one could get fleas sleeping with dogs. So it appears the Black Moslems going to get it in the neck firstGoodbye Farakkhan, wherever you are with your million man march - did Dees organize that one too? Goodbye Larry Flynt - front man for Jewish Mafia - should have used a silver bullet - and hey that guy Moskowitz - goodbye Moskowitz - for by fruits we have known ye? And Rat Faced Lansky - take another look at the family and you know that bunch all looks alike? Saba Nice Item - in part I have reproduced a portion so next time you see a bunch of blacks rioting in Cincinnati - the City that would not permit Larry Flynt to set up his operations - remember, it was Gore and Lieberman's man who was going to loose this black element on streets and none were Moslems unless you consider Nation of Islam, Moslems? ZIONISM IS COMMUNISM IS NWO Introduction The agents of Shaytan (Satan) are many. Many efforts are put forth to mislead masses into darkness via Satanic philosophies, ideologies, and schisms brought forth to divide and keep humanity divided, resulting in immorality, bigotry, break-down of family structure, and numerous unspeakable crimes against humanity. A perfect example of this point would be homosexuality. The purpose of this page is to expose these messengers of darkness and the evil they put forth. Al-Islam is the religion of all mankind, therefore the viewer must understand that any attack against the moralities, principles, and welfare of mankind is also an attack against Al-Islam. Zionism: Its propaganda, deception, and deceits... The New World Order... (of course, this is no different than Zionism) The Attrocities of Kashmir Learn more about Hinduism from O Hindu! Awake! Gay Rights movements... The Americans for Truth (organization exposing opposing the homosexual Movement) Note: Al-Islam does not condone, tolerate, nor accept homosexuality/lesbianism! Freudism, Darwinism, and other messengers of darkness in the guise of philosophy... The Al-Sa'ud family in Arabia... The cult of Dwight York (alias Dr. York), currently known as The Tabernacle Ministries... False religions using the name of Islam... The Qadianis (also known as Ahmadiyya; followers of a Dajjal named Ghulam Ahmad) Shi'ism The Submitters (followers of a Dajjal named Rashad Khalifa, who was a Coptic Christian from Cairo) The Five Percenters (a.k.a., 5% Nation of Islam)... The Nation of Islam... Return to MOA table of contents http://www.ummah.net/moa-on-line/conspiracies/
[CTRL] Fwd: THE OURSTORY(history) OF THE HOLY TABERNACLE MINISTRIES!!!
BEWARE of Jews who say they are Jews and are not; BEWARE of Christians who say they are Christians, and are not; BEWARE of Moslems who say they are Moslems, and are not; For this is first symptom of Jewish Mafia in action - they sell the sheets, the hoods, the literature, provide the books and all that crap to misinform the public. BEWARE of those who set up gambling houses and publish dirty pictures for when you lift the Hoods you see the face of Zonism. Interesting item here - looks like Halle Bopp Heaven's Gate did the art work. Salaam. Saba http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/4978/ourstory.html
Re: [CTRL] JEWS, COMMUNISM and CIVIL RIGHTS
-Caveat Lector- Ah yes.this is the David Duke who went to Russia.this is the David Duke who organized KKK's and then sold the membership lists? This is the David Duke, the real sleeping Dragons of the KKK and certain Knights of the Golden Circle insisted was working with KGB? And remember this KGB/Mossad element had the KKK formed for the Walker spies from which to operate? The same KGB who used KKK literature and logo writing letters around the world and got caught. The same KGB who set up office of FBI with counter intelligence Agent working in desk in same office as Louis Freeh who broke bread with KGB and oh, he said oh to think he was sitting there with real KGB agent for lunch when the asshole did not even know he had one for a friend in his own office and Church? Yes, this is same David Duke where Grand Dragon of Ohio beat him to the Secretary of State's Office and incorporated the KKK to keep him and his ilk out. This is same David Duke who oh so many communists yet he is first to go to Russian to recruit members but only those who hate Jews? Who they kidding? the real KKK one never sees for like Knights of Golden Circle, they are like the Mafia - an Invisible Nation - for the thugs you see in streets in public when you dig a little deeper you are surprised what you find. So you want to puke - join David Duke.the man who sold the membership of the KKK? Who and what is David Duke? Star of David on one hand and Star of Solomon on the other? Saba KKK uses masonic rituals - Bnai Brith? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Report: Cult infant starved to death, buried in state park
-Caveat Lector- Well Ashley at Hotmail try reading this for I do not intend to fool around with your garbage - point out any errors and there are of course many items on the web - have you ever read the Talmud for when you read the Talmud and the Old Testament from Genocide to Ritual Murder, one is reminded of the teachings of Adolph Hitler, Master ZZ of the ages? Saba In the Name of Allah, most Compassionate, most Merciful Jewish Ritual Murder My Irrevelent Defence by Arnold Leese Chapter 3 : Human Sacrifice The Jewish Religion I am not a student of the Talmud. I have no intention of becoming one. For the same reason, I shall not become a student of Occultism or of Drainage Systems. I smell the bad smells and remain aloof. Nevertheless, because the advocates of Jewry use a certain line of argument in denying that there has ever been any such thing as Ritual Murder of Christians by Jews, I am obliged to quote a few unimpeachable authorities on the subject. This argument is that the Jewish religious law not only-does not sanction the practice of Ritual Murder, but forbids the consumption of blood altogether. It is an argument that has been used throughout the ages, and is used now, and has even been the foundation for the verdict Not Guilty, in cases where Jews have been on trial for ritual murder! It was the argument used by the Sultan of Turkey when, for money bribes, he issued a firman (1840) saying that the Ritual Murder Accusations against Jews were calumnies. (Described in later chapters in more detail). But it is known that there have always been two methods of instruction among the Jews: one Exoteric, which openly taught the Laws of Moses and the Rabbinical traditions; the other Esoteric, or mysteries confided only to certain persons bound to secrecy. This latter, the Esoteric teaching, is associated with Occultism and what is known as Black Magic, and the Mystical Cabbala is its source, for certain rites and ceremonies blood is necessary; and secret rites exist which are known only to the few. Even if the written Jewish Laws do not sanction the practice it does not prove that Jews have not done Murder in accordance with some Occult Ritual. Let a Jew speak for us here: -- Bernard Lazare, a Jew who was stated (Jewish Encyclopaedia 1904, Vol. VII, p. 650) to be without any religious convictions, wrote what he himself described as an impartial study of the history and sociology of the Jews, calling his book L-Antisemitisme; in the 1934 edition of this, Vol. II, p. 215, he writes, after mentioning the accusations against the Jews of Ritual Murder. To this general belief are added the suspicions, often justified, against the Jews addicted to magical practices. Actually, in the Middle Ages, the Jew was considered by the people as the magician par excellence; one finds many formula of exorcism in the Talmud, and the Talmudic and Cabbalistic demonology is very complicated. Now one knows the position that blood always occupies in the operations of sorcery. In Chaldean magic it had a very great importance Now, it is very probable, even certain, that Jewish magicians must have sacrificed children; hence the origin of the legend of ritual sacrifice. It is well known, as will be shown in Chapter VI, that Occult Rituals exist in which all sorts of abominable practices are carried out, and that they arise from the Jewish Cabbala. How ridiculous then is the argument that because the Mosaic Laws and the Talmud do not demand Ritual Murder, and even forbid the use of blood, Isaac Abrahams cannot be guilty of any sort of Ritual Murder! Take an analogous case. The Eighth Commandment forbids stealing. Have you ever heard that fact brought up in the defence of a Christian on trial for that crime? Can you imagine prisoner's counsel arguing that John Smith could not have stolen a purse from William Brown because the Christian religion forbids such a thing? More, can you imagine counsel getting away with such an argument? But that is what the Jews have often succeeded in doing. So stupid is this hysterical shriek, Our Laws do not permit it, that I, as a scientific investigator, would be willing to concede it as a fact, without further investigation of the Jewish laws, that Ritual Murder is contrary to these laws. I would concede it because the point is of no importance whatever to my case against the Jew. If the point were established what difference does it make to the verdict of the Trent affair, the Damascus affair, or to the scores of cases I am going to bring before you in later chapters? Another point. Is it likely that we should find clear sanction for such a crime as Ritual Murder in the Jewish Laws? Why, if such a thing were to be found, I venture to say that not a Jew would be left alive, so great would be the popular indignation against the Jewish nation. We should treat them exactly as Sir W. H. Sleeman treated the Thugs, the ritual murderers of India, when he stamped them out of existence
[CTRL] Fwd: Search the King James Bible
What was it in John 8 - You Shall Know the Truth and the Truth Shall Make you Free. Now many scholars, masonic and otherwise of the day, referred to Jack the Ripper as a Jewish Slaughterman.once time to my bible calendar why this slaughterman (barber get your razor, slaughterman get your weapon) this man actually built an entire ritual murder scene about a chapter in the bible - one can only uess who he was murdering figurately and literally. Particular reference given to the pot or kettle for the Ripper had a kettle on the stone fully of body parts which got so hot it melted.he laid rings and coins at the feet of his victim Zionism was born. Saba The King James Bible at the Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Ezekiel, chapter 24 1: Again in the ninth year, in the tenth month, in the tenth day of the month, the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 2: Son of man, write thee the name of the day, even of this same day: the king of Babylon set himself against Jerusalem this same day. 3: And utter a parable unto the rebellious house, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Set on a pot, set it on, and also pour water into it: 4: Gather the pieces thereof into it, even every good piece, the thigh, and the shoulder; fill it with the choice bones. 5: Take the choice of the flock, and burn also the bones under it, and make it boil well, and let them seethe the bones of it therein. 6: Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the bloody city, to the pot whose scum is therein, and whose scum is not gone out of it! bring it out piece by piece; let no lot fall up on it. 7: For her blood is in the midst of her; she set it upon the top of a rock; she poured it not upon the ground, to cover it with dust; 8: That it might cause fury to come up to take vengeance; I have set her blood upon the top of a rock, that it should not be covered. 9: Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the bloody city! I will even make the pile for fire great. 10: Heap on wood, kindle the fire, consume the flesh, and spice it well, and let the bones be burned. 11: Then set it empty upon the coals thereof, that the brass of it may be hot, and may burn, and that the filthiness of it may be molten in it, that the scum of it may be consumed. 12: She hath wearied herself with lies, and her great scum went not forth out of her: her scum shall be in the fire. 13: In thy filthiness is lewdness: because I have purged thee, and thou wast not purged, thou shalt not be purged from thy filthiness any more, till I have caused my fury to rest upon thee. 14: I the LORD have spoken it: it shall come to pass, and I will do it; I will not go back, neither will I spare, neither will I repent; according to thy ways, and according to thy doings, shall they judge thee, saith the Lord GOD. 15: Also the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 16: Son of man, behold, I take away from thee the desire of thine eyes with a stroke: yet neither shalt thou mourn nor weep, neither shall thy tears run down. 17: Forbear to cry, make no mourning for the dead, bind the tire of thine head upon thee, and put on thy shoes upon thy feet, and cover not thy lips, and eat not the bread of men. 18: So I spake unto the people in the morning: and at even my wife died; and I did in the morning as I was commanded. 19: And the people said unto me, Wilt thou not tell us what these things are to us, that thou doest so? 20: Then I answered them, The word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 21: Speak unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will profane my sanctuary, the excellency of your strength, the desire of your eyes, and that which your soul pitieth; and your sons and your daughters whom ye have left shall fall by the sword. 22: And ye shall do as I have done: ye shall not cover your lips, nor eat the bread of men. 23: And your tires shall be upon your heads, and your shoes upon your feet: ye shall not mourn nor weep; but ye shall pine away for your iniquities, and mourn one toward another. 24: Thus Ezekiel is unto you a sign: according to all that he hath done shall ye do: and when this cometh, ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD. 25: Also, thou son of man, shall it not be in the day when I take from them their strength, the joy of their glory, the desire of their eyes, and that whereupon they set their minds, their sons and their daughters, 26: That he that escapeth in that day shall come unto thee, to cause thee to hear it with thine ears? 27: In that day shall thy mouth be opened to him which is escaped, and thou shalt speak, and be no more dumb: and thou shalt be a sign unto them; and they shall know that I am the LORD. Now maybe the ritual murder in the Old Testament serves a purpose - for it gave birth to Satanism and Anton LaVey (real name Levy) who wrote the bible, made a few bucks and set the stage for more ritual murder of Christians, in particular. Then we had Littleton. http://etext.virginia.edu
Re: [CTRL] The political significance of Israels assassination policy (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- You read this item and one almosts believes Bush was involved (papa Bush) in the assassination of the Kennedys along with Meyer Lansky and Jewish Mafia. Hard to tell who danced with whom. Saba This would explain though this jewish masonic bible calendaar I have - for it was jewish masons who carried out the executions but what gave the order? Meyer Lansky? He had to have a lot of help. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) The Men And Women behind Human Rights Watch : Wow. Kath
-Caveat Lector- Strange no mention of Marc Rich for he and George Soros in same bed .. both considered organized crime figures. Then throw in Moskowitz (Irving) and Larry Flynt and you have real cess pool. But no matter, even with all this wealth combined - still hard to make silk purse out of sow's ear Someday earth swallow them all up - Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JEWS, COMMUNISM and CIVIL RIGHTS
-Caveat Lector- Not necessarily so Mr. Cooper for the Grand Dragon then was a friend of mine, named Marvin Miller... Always liked him - I had researched the KKK and discovered the real KKK used masonic rituals and were Knights of Golden Circle. Skin heads and these thugs you see in the streets, are not Klansmen. Real KKK you never see; problem today thougoh more FBI in KKK than KKK? I had an Uncle who was Secret Service and KKK - and in our town when kids our janitor was KKK with big mouth and one night let us say there was a stranger at midnight that beat the hell out of him. My father was an Irish Catholic - and remember talk of the Black Legion in the area Oh I know enough about the REAL KKK and its rituals and masonic rituals to know and today I guess, no longer sword to chest when sworn in but submachine gun? I do know this - at one time the KKK was comprised of literate, and aristocratic gentlemen - John Glenn's parents were KKK The KGB formed its own little KKK for the Walker spiesremember them? Well well that bunch got caught, 5 dragons burned their robes and went back to sleep. So do not worried about my fractured mind - worry about your obvious intention is questioning my letter? Then read Romans 12 and go Climb Stone Mountain. Saba From Old Southen Family on Mother's Side who knows a Know Nothing from a Klansman. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Basics -- 5 ways to cut your 2002 tax bill in 2001 - MSN Money
-Caveat Lector- http://moneycentral.msn.com/articles/tax/basics/7712.asp?special=msn A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Birgenair - this looks like a virus, dont open
-Caveat Lector- This guy also has loads of pornography files under this parent directory thing so it is easy to guess who and what it is? Do not know what you call this - but when you do a search under the old name you pull up an entire page of files and all are titles of obscene stuff, etc. On Web TV I cannot open these little boxes anyway - often I wonder the person sending this stuff out, if he isn't selling a new software on the side? Keep business going? What is the real purpose of doing this other than a form of censorship, criminal mischief or is somebody selling new virus programs making big bucks? A least this Snow White Stuff stopped - for me anyway. Sounds like and man I knew from India (Ph.D) who used to send me cards from this Island off India with I send you this nice cardthe terrorist touch for this is all he would say with all the stories he could write for he used to meet with this Sahi Baba for they were friends. Not close friends, but hi How are you etc. friends. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Env: Like It Really Is - www.MiddleEast.Org - MER FlashBack
-Caveat Lector- That one million arabs not worth one jewish fingenail has a familiar ring to it; think though revised to fit the occasion, this line came from a book called The Root of Evil written by a man name Dixon who also wrote Birth of a Nation. So it wasn't even original? Whoever that guy is he isn't even original - makes me wonder all all the more about some of this alleged neo nazi literature and whose logo should be engraved upon same. Like the black bordered ad and the Wanted for Treason poster in Dallas? When behind it was to say the least an extremist which more properly fit into the ADL than the KKK - little red arrows when tracked down as I recall, was a Bernie Weissman? Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Serbian Defense League Item
Often wondered about this Mid East news for it run by a man named Berstein - the quote re the arabs not being worth a fingernail, etc., is so overdone.so I pulled this up on web with same quote often wonder though why Madelline Albright took such great delight in torturning the Serbians when they saved her fat ass when she and her family left with the property of others in their possession for which she now is being sued?Who really are the aggressors - and what is a defintion of theft of property? Separation of State and Church - why are we sending billions of dollars to Israel while 9 million kids here go to bed hungry at night? Why are we sending billions to Israel just for Zionists while Palestinians are being deprived of food, water, and their olive trees and homes are destroyed? Avengers of blood - well refer to the bible to see the whole Master Plan for my calendar code which I always called the Master Plan for Murder Keyed to Stars and Testaments is the Zionist Master Plan for Murder - for all the time, I was carefully led to believe, that the Mafia, was Italian? Refer to new TV Shore Sopranos Now just make this a Jewish Family and you have the truth of the matter. Salaam Saba Hebrew Word 'Goy' is Racist and Hateful Hebrew 'Goy' is defined in Webster's as a non-Jew or a Gentile, while the word 'Gentile' in various religions is defined as someone of a different religion or a pagan. Because Jews are a race, the term 'Goy' is clearly racist and hateful since it categorizes non-Jews as one entity, not according nationality, race or religion. In other words, even the Arabs who are true Semites are 'Goy' to Jews, and that's extreme anti-Semitism. A case in point is rabbi Perin's statement that A million Arabs are not worth one Jewish fingernail. To Hopefully Better Understand Some Jews SDL documents crimes Jews committed against the Serbs during the recent Yugoslav civil wars. Crime can never be justified, but why did Jews turn on a people who risked their lives and saved many of them from Nazis in WWII? Is it true that Jews who rise to positions of power become tyrants? We have no answer so we cite some Jewish sources for you to decide. Idiocy and imbecility are found comparatively more often among Jews than among non-Jews . . . The Mongolian type of idiocy is also very frequently observed among Jews . . . Among the Jews the proportion of insane has been observed to be very large . . . Jews are more liable to acute psychoses of early age than are non-Jews. (The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. VI, (1904), p. 556, 603-04). The Jews are more subject to diseases of the nervous system than the other races and peoples among which they dwell. Hysteria and neurasthenia appear to be most frequent. Some physicians of large experience among the Jews have even gone so far as to state that most of them are neurasthenic and hysterical. (The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. IX, (1905), p. 225). Jews And Their Zionist Views The great ideal of Judaism is that the whole world shall be imbued with Jewish teachings, and that in a Universal Brotherhood of nations - a greater Judaism in fact - all the separate races and religions shall disappear. - The Jewish World February 9, 1883 We, the Jews, are a people - one people. When we sink, we become revolutionary proletariat, the subordinate officers of a revoluionary party; when we rise, there arises also our terrible power of the purse. - Theodore Herzl The Jewish State, 1896 The Jews in Russia, in their total mass, were responsible for the Revolution. - Angelo S. Rappaport The Pioneers of the Russian Revolution P. 250 Stanley, Paul and C. London, 1918 We are living in a highly organized state of socialism. The state is all; the individual is of importance only as he contributes to the welfare of the state. His property is only his as the state does not need it. He must hold his life and his possessions at the call of the state. - Bernard M. Baruch The Knickerbocker Press Albany, N.Y. August 8, 1918 There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with many of the highest ideals of Judaism. - Jewish Chronicle London, April 4, 1919 The Bolshevist revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfation and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world. - The American Hebrew September 10, 1920 Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those half-converted believers dream to vanquish the 'Truthful' and the 'Faithful' of their own creed, those holy crusaders, who had gathered around the Red standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the daring guidance of those experienced
Re: [CTRL] Report: Cult infant starved to death, buried in state park
-Caveat Lector- Do you think anybody really cares about a 10 month old baby that was starved to death; after all if it is acceptable to burn babies alive the term is Wacoized, and then permissible to bash babies heads in as they take a near breath of life - do you think any body cares really. They are probably just one of Joshua's Trailer Trash people or one of Zionists fingernail? People are afraid to eat today due to the poison being put out on the web - food is contaminaed, immigrants hired as cheap food handlers, and Sarah Lee is no longer fit to eat and I presume much of her food is kosher but evidently filthy handling of food has made it well unsafe and untrustworthy? Wonder if these people have a computer or what garbage they have read - but then what is another baby tossed in the garbage - it is done all the time right? One nice thing about this jewish mafia here - the black doctor that was murdered by the hit man dressed like county sheriff as the assistant county coroner looked on - and another doctor - this black doctor ran an abortion clinic and I guess this is why most people did not give a rats ass that somebody on a Halloween night, took a few shots at him - just got carried away So let them send them to jail for murder - but do not expect Eric Rudolph to retaliate - he goes only after the ones who do it for big bucks... Wonder if someone will salvage enough baby body parts to make few bucks on side. Murder is murder - opiums dream is one thing and a vision of God is reserved for the pure, in heart. I doubt God would intercede here if he did not fit to intercede for the baby - for you see the Jewish Talmud and Old Testament calls for ritual sacrifice? But then we are just dealing with trailer trash here - right Joshua? Saba Whats the going price now for baby body parts? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Satan Satanism Anton LaVey Legend and Reality
Interesting item on this Anton LaVey who founded the Satanist Church; LaVey, who was Jewish real name Levey, this item show, was not what he professed to be. Further it is noted this Michael Acquinos, invited Sammy David Jr. to Join this Church of Satan, it was not LaVey. Anyway interesting item and this LaVey or Levey was one ugly person - looked like an overdone Mr. Spock .the Robert Slatzer mentioned in this item is from Columbus and claimed to be married to Marilyn Monroe which is not true - further, his lies have been picked up by other researchers and truth. With LaVeys underworld connections though one does have to wonder about some of these untimely deaths that happened to people who were repelled by this mans noxious ways. Saba This Michael Acquino is one I am interested in as have some old information on his linking to a Male Warlock who went underground when military intelligence had infiltrated his cult... http://www.churchofsatan.org/aslv.html
[CTRL] Meyer Lansky Behind JFK Murder
The links to Lansky to Ohio and the gas and oil fields to Kentucky and West Virginia were well known in the late 60 period when Lansky would spend time on this farm with his mafia friends..one of whom the FBI tracked for it was believed he might have been in on the kill? Interesting item - Meyer Lansky was Zionist engaged in murder inc, drugs, pornography - with a little weasel rat face and it is strange the ADL and Lansky slept in same bed? Saba Email Story Print Story Send to device Newsletter Home Readers Forum New book charges that Mosad collaborated with CIA in the assassination of John F. Kennedy (CIA connection? These were Lansky hired guns and murder inc._ Readers' Forum By Richard Chad O'Connor Posted Wednesday May 23, 2001 - 12:57:17 PM EDT An explosive new book charges that Israel's intelligence agency, the Mossad, collaborated with the CIA and the mob in the assassination of John F. Kennedy because JFK stood in the way of Israel's efforts to build a nuclear arsenal. Final Judgment, by Michael Collins Piper, is not available in the bookstores, but it has still sold thousands of copies and has emerged as an underground best-seller. Here's the thesis: When New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison charged businessman Clay Shaw with participation in the JFK assassination conspiracy, Garrison stumbled upon the Mossad connection to the murder of President Kennedy. Shaw served on the board of a shadowy corporation known as Permindex which functioned as an arms procurement front for the Mossad and which was linked to the Swiss-based money laundering operations of Meyer Lansky, the head of the international crime syndicate who cooperated closely on many fronts with the American CIA. In Final Judgment the Israeli connection to the JFK assassination is explored in frightening--and fully documented--detail. For example, did you know: * That JFK was engaged in a bitter secret conflict with Israel over U.S. Middle East policy and that Israel's prime minister resigned in disgust, saying JFK's stance threatened Israel's very survival? * That JFK's successor, Lyndon Johnson, immediately reversed America's policy toward Israel? * That top Mafia figures often alleged to be behind the JFK assassination were only front men for Meyer Lansky? * That the CIA's liaison to the Mossad, James Angleton, was a prime mover behind the cover-up of the JFK assassination? Why didn't Oliver Stone, in his movie JFK not mention any of this? It turns out the chief financial backer of Stone's film was longtime Mossad figure, Arnon Milchan, Israel's biggest arms dealer. (Oliver Stone is a big fraud who used old material of former Assassination Committee which was another cover to lead people to wrong side of horse - might add this bunch, Mark Lane - right in there with Larry Flynt when he was gunned down by Lansky henchmen who did not like the new kid on the block attemting to form own operation independent of the mob...Flynt, is supposed to be dead - SABA NOTELansky was in Ohio then scouting oil and gas fields) These are just a few of the amazing revelations that appear in this shocking book. Order Final Judgment at $25 per copy from: You can order the book from the website: www.spotlight.org. Sincerely, Richard Chad O'Connor © 2001 Readers' Forum. This news item is distributed via Middle East News Online (MiddleEastWire.com). For information about the content or for permission to redistribute, publish or use for broadcast, contact our syndication department. Algeria Bahrain Egypt Iran Iraq Israel Jordan Kuwait Lebanon Libya Morocco OmanPalestine Qatar Saudia Syria Tunisia Turkey UAE Western Sahara Yemen http://www.middleeastwire.com/readers/stories/20010523_1_meno.shtml
[CTRL] Fwd: ADL: Portrait of A Hate Group
Like to know more about ADL connections to Sheriff's office in LA; friend of mine in LA told me some interesting stories tonight which I found quite shocking and if true, this Armenian Deputy might have been set up too. Lots of stories going on out there for instance like WACO - 4 dead Clinton body guards who knew too much. This ADL and Foxman should be given their passport to Israel - Zionism begins to reveal itself for Herr Heidler Hitler, was jewish. Note ADL personally training law enforcement agencies - so remember Waco and this man just burned to death with his dog.people should sue, and sue and start filing criminal charges for it is obvious we are dealing with criminal enemy. Think not? REMEMBER THE USS LIBERTY How do you get these pigs out of our government? Expose them for what they are, that is how. Saba ADL America's Most Powerful Hate Group The Anti-Defamation League is the longest running and most powerful hate group in the United States with 28 offices domestically and 3 offices abroad. They bring in nearly $60 million a year to combat free speech and the right of ethnic minorities to defend themselves from bigotry (including Black Muslims, Arabs, and Euro-Americans). History | Criminal Operations | ADL and Ethnic Harassment This page sponsered by The Nationalist Observer Email: Alex Curtis ADL's Dark History The Anti-Defamation League was created in 1913 by the racist secret society known as B'nai B'rith (which means blood of the Chosen). This organization, which exists today excludes people based on their ethnic background and religion. It is exclusively restricted to powerful Jews who believe in racial superiority. The ADL has spearheaded efforts at censorship against all people who wish to express themselves culturally and racially. The Director of the ADL Richard Gutstadt wrote to all periodicals he could find to censor the book, The Conquest of A Continent. Mr Gutstadt brazenly writes, We are interested in stifling the sale of this book. The ADL was also instrumental in terrorizing St. Martin's Press into canceling their contract last year with David Irving. The ADL trys to cover its anti-free speech activities by giving out a Free Speech Torch of Liberty award occasionally. The most prominent recipient is flesh peddler and woman denigrator Hugh Hefner. Obscene pornographer Larry Flynt is another supporter who has contributed 100,000s of dollars to the ADL. (Flynt also convicted of public sodomy in Cincinnati, Ohio.Saba Note) ADL's Criminal and Spying Operations In 1993 the San Francisco and Los Angeles offices of the ADL were raided for evidence of criminal wrongdoing in many spheres. The raids turned up evidence of the ADL's compliance in the theft of confidential police files stolen from California police departments. The ADL had been paying Roy Bullock a salary for decades to spy on people and steal police files. He stole files from SFPD through corrupt cop Tom Gerard. His illicit contact in San Diego was white racist sheriff Tim Carroll. The ADL has been linked closely to organized crime, especially Las Vegas mafia boss Meyer Lansky. Theodore Silbert worked simultaneously for the ADL and the Sterling National Bank (a mafia operation controlled by the Lansky syndicate). As a matter of fact the granddaughter of the mafia boss, Lansky, herself is the ADL's liason to law enforcement, Mira Lansky Boland. (What a convient arrangement! She used ADL money to treat Tim Carroll and Tom Gerard to an all-expense paid luxury vacation in Israel.) Another Las Vegas gangster, Moe Dalitz was honored by the ADL in 1985. Another among the shady contributors to the ADL's supremacist activities is the Milken Family Fund, of junk bond fame. The ADL uses its well-oiled propaganda machine to protect their friends in the mafia and pornography industry by shrieking Anti-Semitism! at the slightest movement of the law against these perverse interests. ADL's Ethnic Intimidation The ADL has mastered the art of intimidation and blackmailing unlike any of the powerful mafias they are associated with. The ADL has influential contacts in media and politics that can ruin a person or business if they don't follow ADL's agenda. Already mentioned are instances of bad cops falling under the allure of the ADL, ones such as Tom Gerard and Tim Carroll. Yet now good cops and even freshmen cops are being conditioned for the type of anti-free speech, anti-cultural diversity, police state that the ADL would like for our country. Throughout the nation the ADL is threatening police departments with all kinds of retribution if they don't initiate state-funded lectures and seminars for law enforcement given by ADL spokesmen. The ADL rakes in large sums of money for these sessions, boosting their already overflowing coffers. Already ADL men have been seen at the scene of crimes ordering cops on how investigations are to be conducted. Perhaps at no time in history has any other criminal
[CTRL] Fwd: The Enquirer - Peter Bronson - January 12, 1997
This is an interesting item - see how Larry Flynt operates. Now imagine maybe this Blue Dog Group going out for a few drinks - Condit and his buddies like to hit the bars which made them most vulnerable. But Condit did not drink - how many times has Chandra Levy's mother pointed this out, for he did not drink or smoke. Yet hanging around the bars even on own turf can be very very deadly - if one looks aat the Airline employee, dyed red hai dark roots - and rather than reporting of what she knew to the police she races to the news media - and these other women all piling up against these guys? Scarborough? Well a dead aid found in his office but consider the type of people with whom Larry Flynt breaks bread? ADL and Flynt are all orgnized crime figures for they run in the same pack and blackmail is the name of the game. This JJ Cafaro on the ten top list for jewish contributors may go to jail in February with James Traficant and Traficant is holding his own. Florida and California - this is where these people have a firm hold - in particular these two honest cops knew when to fold - but to see the prostitutes and/or call girls moving in is a typical Larry Flynt Game? He is so low, and at one time made a nice front man for their drug running using his established routes - but do not think Flynt made money selling his Hustler magazine Someday the next time the mob orders a hit on someone who is trying to screw them, they will us a silver bullet - but then, what goes around comes around? Dr. Irvin Moskowitz and Larry Flynt work same side of street.from same garbage pile Saba E N Q U I R E R O P I N I O N Sunday, January 12, 1997 Support your local sheriff BY PETER BRONSON The Cincinnati Enquirer QA with Si Leis Q. Is Hustler magazine still illegal? A. ''Yes. The trial took six weeks and was based on 11 issues of the magazine. The jury convicted him. ''He has threatened to bring it back. I can assure you that if he brings it back, my men will pick it up and bring charges. ... I have no doubt that if the case is handled right, he will be convicted again.'' Q. How did you feel about being portrayed by former Clinton adviser James Carville? A. ''Unbelievable. I never knew he was an actor.'' Q. Whom would you choose? A. ''I'm not into that Hollywood scene much. (Laughs.) Maybe Tom Cruise.'' Q. Did you get an invitation to the movie? A. ''I received several.'' Q. Are you going? A. Silence. Hard stare. Slight smile. ''You gotta be kidding.'' Q. What do you think of the way the movie compares Larry Flynt to Charles Keating? A. ''Charlie Keating had nothing to do with the trial. He was just a man who stood up to say what was wrong.'' Q. What do you think of Larry Flynt now? A. ''He's a sicko, that's what I say. I'm reminded the man is a sicko because normal people wouldn't do what he's done.'' The double-tough, poison-on-porn lawman who ran Larry Flynt out of business, out of Cincinnati and directly to jail was once just a snapshot away from appearing in Larry Flynt's Hustler magazine. Saba Note: Here is one way they set up men who are vulneraable plus using drugs in drinksWas Chandra Levy with her glamour shots being used by ADL - was she fooling with wrong person - and why the clue Klingle Mansion where JJ Cafaro going to trial had connection*** Hamilton County Sheriff Si Leis still shakes his head and laughs ruefully about how close he came to having his picture in the skin magazine that he successfully prosecuted as criminal obscenity in 1977, as Hamilton County prosecutor. ''It was a bad scene,'' he says, thinking back. ''They had a mayors' conference in Cleveland, to discuss the blight of obscenity on cities. I was invited and took my first assistant, who is now Judge Fred Cartolano. I made my talk, and we're sitting in the back, listening to the other speakers, when this gal appeared and identified herself as a lawyer for some city out West. She said her city was having an obscenity problem and wanted to talk to me, one-to-one, to ask how we handled it. ''So Fred and I went down to the bar in the hotel, and she shows up, and suddenly there's this second gal. . . . About halfway into the conversation it changed and became very personal. Fred and I realized at about the same time that something was funny. He caught my eye, and I caught his eye, and we excused ourselves.'' That night at a reception, they saw the two women again - ''dressed to kill, just dressed to kill and working the room,'' he said. ''We steered clear. ''And sure enough, later when I got back home, I got a call from a police chief in Missouri. He said, 'You gotta help me, my mayor's in deep trouble. My mayor's going to be in the next issue of Hustler.' ''And damn if the next issue didn't come out and there was this mayor, his arms around these two gals, and they had a business card he gave them with his room number on the back. There at this conference on obscenity. ''I
Re: [CTRL] Cotterill
-Caveat Lector- These people could get this ADl and these other bastards who pay off police, sheriffs, etc., to murder and to legally kill - by the filing of many lawsuits do unto them as these pigs have done unto others. Meyer Lansky and his hoodlum friends in the past were all involved with ADL...Moe Dalitz, etc..ADL is a laundering machine for mob money just as a certain foundation is - all tax free? One has to but look at a picture of Meyer Lansky, rat faced sleaze, to get the picture for one does now make silk purse out of sows ear.with all his money he was still called rat faced in the pack. Saba So many First Amendment violations - so many deaths caused by this ADL and their hit hate liststhey are corrupting our police and the only way to get them is to take them to Court. Maybe little Chandra Levy was fooling round with the wrong people and word was out - for as they say in Romans 12 - Vengance is Mine - I will Repay? Ten fold? This is one battle the ADl will not winsend the garbage to Israel and when some of the more Orthodox Jews get through them they will all be singing Soprano? Anyone try to censor you - sue them. Larry Flynt and the ADL - let this garbage decide what we see and read? We are going to need a few more bull dozers to clean out their pig styes. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Crimes against Christianity
Long ago I was told by this man that I should beware more of those who say they are Christians and are not, that those who say they are Jews, and are not for you see they are one and the same - Zionists. Numerous neo nazi groups have been linked to ADL and Zionists - but this article portrays what is really going on in this country - for instance, Jerry Falwell in debate with Larry Flynt each feeding up the fat flesh of the other? Falwell even wrote his own bible and gave the name of MNASON a different meaning? All this Anti Masonry an Anti Knight Templar etc...while this filty creeping disease called ADL feeds among the Lilies? So this is good item - they are all at the same cornucopia? Jimmy Swaggart wallowing in pornography? Talk about garbage he is small time compared to Falwell and do not forget Billy Graham and his connection to organized crime - Mickey Cohen? By their fruits you shall know them..Jerry Falwell on same stage as Larry Flynt? Larry Flynt Born Again Christian - I say it will take silver bullets to get the entire ADL put to rest. This Organized Crime element in the Born Again Praise the Lord business, were running drugs - nice front, eh? What is it FBI Anslinger said - oh many notorioius organized crime figures decide to become preachers when they leave the prisons..check out these little planes sometimes and in particular some of the big planes in the night loaded with Mexican and Columbian gold:).some of of these ships are now on guard. Saba Crimes against Christianity Home Back Site Map Destruction of Christian Holy Places A major scandal within American Christianity today is the idolatrous support of Israel by the false prophets of American evangelism who are misguiding millions of unwitting Americans into aiding and abetting the persecution of their fellow Christians in the Holy Land. The sex scandals that have devastated two of these evangelists, Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart, pale in comparison to the scandal of their sacrilegious support of the Zionist persecutors of Christianity who have gone so far as to even officially burn the New Testament. American Christians, as well as Christians everywhere, would be horrified if they realized that the Zionist leaders would burn the word of God. Yet leaders, such as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, as well as the deposed evangelists Bakker and Swaggart, among others, trumpet the Israeli Army as an idol and as an alleged ally of America. No less a figure than Professor Yehoshafat Harkabi, former Head of Israeli Military Intelligence, has revealed the facts surrounding Israel's official burning of the Gospels so cherished by all Christians, and above all by the fundamentalist Christians who have been misled by the televangelist accomplices of Zionist persecution of Christianity. General Harkabi writes: Chief Rabbi Ovadiah Yosef, who is considered to be a moderate (in 1979) issued a ruling that copies of the New Testament should be burned. This ruling did not remain a dead letter. An item in the newspaper Ma'ariv (14 June 1985) reported the burning of a copy of the New Testament found in the library at the base of the chief educational officer of the Israeli army [Might add Adolph Hitler had thousands of King James Bibles ready to incinerate as the ADL caused incineration of Davidians? Saba Note Hitler was Zionist] These manifestations of hostility-- the designation of Christians as idolaters, the demand to invoke resident alien ordinances, and the burning of the New Testament-- are distressing. Outside the Land of Israel Jews never dare to behave in this fashion. Has independence made the Jews take leave of their senses? In such words an Israeli leader admits the truth about Zionist persecution of Christianity. Yet even such admissions are swept under the rug by the alleged Christian supporters of Israel. It is a great irony that those Christian leaders who have created a false idol out of the State of Israel are themselves, as purported Christians, condemned by the Zionists as idolaters. Examples of the idolatrous support of the Zionist persecutors of Christianity by leading American fundamentalist pastors follow: Jerry Falwell says: Right at the very top of our priorities must be an unswerving commitment and devotion to the State of Israel. Pat Robertson says: The future of this Nation (America) may be at stake, because God will bless those that bless Israel. [and remembre Pat got into banking - this he is a Christian?] And Jimmy Swaggart, before being deposed for becoming involved with a prostitute in a notorious sex scandal, said: God will bless those that bless Israel, and God will curse those that curse Israel. Another notorious televangelist, Mike Evans, produced a television special entitled Israel: America's Key to Survival. Although his mother came from an Orthodox Jewish Background, Mike Evans attended a Christian Bible school as a child. In 1970 he began what he calls
[CTRL] Fwd: More Terrorist Activities.....
There are one billion voices of moslems around the world virtually being suppressedwhile Zoinists head for Arab Oil. Saba Militant Coalition Of Christian Fundamentalist And Jewish Orthodox Cults Plots . . . Destruction Of Al Aqsa Mosque By Grace Halsell (First Published In The Washington Report On Middle Eastern Affairs, March/00- Vol. XIX, No.2, Pages 16-17) For three decades, Gershon Solomon, a militant Israeli who heads an organization dedicated to the destruction of Jerusalem's most holy Islamic shrine, has led Zionist zealots in armed assaults on the Muslim grounds of Haram al-Sharif, or Noble Sanctuary, that encloses both the Dome of the Rock and Al Aqsa mosque. No Israeli political leader has spoken out against the assaults on the Mosque, holy to a billion Muslims around the world. Moreover, no Israeli rabbi has condemned them. Indeed, beginning in 1967, many of the assaults were led by Jewish rabbis. I first heard about the Israeli militants' intent to destroy the mosque in 1979 when I went to Jerusalem. I talked at length with Bobby Brown, and third-generation American from Brooklyn, flying to the Jewish state and instantly became a new citizen, confiscated land from Palestinians to help build an illegal Jewish settlement. The mosque, he told me, has got to go. It is a blot in our land. Militant Jews such as brown and Solomon want a Jerusalem that is pure Jewish - without evidence of inhabitants of the other monotheistic faiths and their shrines. Surprisingly, millions of U.S. evangelical Christians endorse and financially support this Jewish plan. Although united in the immediate goal of destroying the mosque, the Israeli militants and Christian zealots have different long-range agendas. Secular Jews, such as Stanley Goldfoot, one of the perpetrators of the dynamiting in 1946 of the King David Hotel which killed some 100 Christian, Muslim and Jewish civilians, want the mosque destroyed for political reasons. Other Jews believe that the building of the temple on the Muslim grounds will usher in the Jewish Messiah. A growing number of Christians embrace the idea that in all history, Israel is on the center stage. They say God has planned epochs of time (dispensations) such as the in-gathering of the Jews in the ancient land of Canaan. One epoch, they say, includes the present time when Jews are obligated to build a Jewish temple and re-institute animal sacrifice, Such epochs or dispensations are necessary, they say before Christ can return. Ironically, while Christian dispensationalists place Israel as the most important nation in all the world, they do respect or even like Jews- as Jews. Yet, because they believe Christ can only land in a safe area near Jerusalem, they make a cult of the land. They thus give total, unquestioned support to Israel. Goldfoot and Solomon are welcome in countless U.S. pulpits, where Christian Zionists give generous donations of money, as well as their gold weeding rings and gold earrings to finance the mosque's destruction. They know its destruction might well trigger wars culminating in Armageddon, but the welcome this. They push Armageddon along, saying they, as Born Again Christians, will be spared any suffering, because they will be Raptured, wafted up into heaven to view the slaughter below. I am not worried, Lynchburg, Virginia televangelist Jerry Falwell shouts. You know why? I ain't gonna be here! This dispensationalist doctrine, less then 200 years old, pervades Assemblies Of God, Pentecostal and other charismatic churches, as well as the 16 million-member Southern Baptist Convention and countless so-called Bible churches and mega-churches. It's estimated that at least one out of every 10 Americans is a devotee of this cult. In both Israel and the U.S., a conspiracy of silence reigns as militants lay siege to the Jerusalem mosque. No political leader - or religious leader- in Israel or the U.S. has addressed this issue. In the case of Israeli rabbis, if they themselves have not aided and abetted planned assaults on the mosque, they have kept silent. In the case of all major U.S. Christian church leaders - the voices that are heard throughout the land- if they themselves are not raising money to destroy the mosque, they keep silent about the conspiracy. I don't favor it, one Christian told me. But if it happens - the destruction of the mosque-it doesn't mean I won't support. ASSAULTS ON THE MOSQUE TWO GROUPS IN PARTICULAR are dedicated to the destruction of Jerusalem's most sacred Islamic shrine: the Militant Bloc of the Faithful or Gush Emunim, led by rabbis such as Moshe Levinger; Ateret Cohanim, a Jewish yeshiva composed of militant Jewish students and their rabbis. Fundamentalist, militant Christians, who also want the mosque destroyed, give support and financial aid to both of these Israeli organizations, as do wealthy American Jews. Beginning in 1967, when Israel militarily seized Arab East Jerusalem, Jewish terrorists on more
[CTRL] Fwd: Frank Sinatra and the Mob
Nice story on Sinatra - once every juke box in the country was playing Yellow Bird as Sinatra had been called into a hearing and the mob was afraid he would singfriendly warning. Years ago a friend of mine told me there were some Miami cars at this local restaurant/bar I might want to check outsure enough it look like the meeting of Murder Inc..it was during this time frame and I was curious about whether they would open a bible before the began to conduct business. Well - when I entered and sat quietly in a dark booth suddenly the proprietor got up, went to the big Juke Box - and played Yellow Bird and gave me the biggest smile. I left.ever see someone smile with dead reptilian eyes? Saba Nice item here on the Canary who did not sing before the Grand Jury. http://www.crimemagazine.com/sinatra.htm
[CTRL] Fwd: Statement of Harry J. Anslinger
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Re: [CTRL] Autopsy report on aide released- heart condition known as floppy m...
-Caveat Lector- Listen neuropychotic - my friend had daily contact with the Hoffa family after he disappeared - Hoffa picked the right publisher, though - Stein and Day for virtually his last will and testament. And the Jewish Mafia doctor sat in my office once with the I Have A Secret smilethe boat he got Hoffa away or dumped him in the drink, he then renamed The Great Escape. $50,000 reward for her whereabouts - or body? Chandra met with same type of Great Ecape. Dr. Donald Plotnick in prison chummed with Bobby Baker, and sat a whole year - this fatso limp wrist assassin - in same cell with Hoffa who protected him from the Italian gang for those Italians did not like what appeared to them to be a fatso Jewish Mob pansy. Now before you open your mouth further do a litle research on your own - and I still have my letter from Lowenstein or Lowenthall - written on the Criminal Justice stationary setting up appointment to meet with Hoffa only I did not go for I was told maybe I might fall from a high rise hotel window and it would be called a suicide and a friend told me that. When Enquirer offered the $50,000 was when my old MI6 friend picked up signal..she also said Stein and Day had Nazi connections during WWII however she would try to keep me away from any publishers other than her own. So one finds the purer one's blood the more receptive one is...and you know how the Scotch-Irish are - and once a psychic gets there hook into you forget it bucko - you have a problem. The man who told me Hoffa was alive was Al Haft Jrhe is also the man who dropped enough clues tht I figured out it was this Doctor and these people who murdered a Dr. Walter Bondit was also this man who had a falling out with these people for they were stealing him blind - and would not return a diamond ring worth over $30,000 - in fact when this dr. came to divorce court - his then wife was wering a stolen diamond ring of the Haft family - it belonged to this wonderful woman who had never done harm to anyone. What wouldyou expect of anyone who entertained Meyer Lansky and afforded a jewish hit man space on his farm who murdered no doubt more people than Clinton. This city of Columbus - crooked mob money is taking over big timebut what they have left in Columbus isn't much for even Wexner came out to our town to livehear he is having financial problems now. Might add Larry Flyng and this Dr. Irving Moskowitz have some gambling casino interests and they will no doubt in combined effort do unto Israel what Lansky did unto Cuba? So a Gideon Bible unto you asshole. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Feminists come to aid of Andrea Yates
-Caveat Lector- Note Ed - this loud mouthed Lesbian on TV - oh how those lesbians love to give it to the kidsthis creep was smirking and smiling and told how this poor woman was home-schooling 5 kids. Only one small chlld was of school age, and their house was a pig stye and the husband as far as I am concerned, should be charged with neglect and or as an accomplice to the crime - wonder if they had insurance on the kids? This woman looked like this Grouocho Marx image of a lesbian - possibly latent and oh what a wonderful mother? The little kid who might have been home schooled, was the one who ran from her as she murdered the baby in the tub for he was smart enough to know what she was doing - imagine the baby screaming/. Like these pigs Paula Poundstone and Rosie O'Donnell.kids in harms way? Rosie's little kid with teeth knocked out and hurt nose - and police there 3 times while that lesbian lived there with her Suffer little Children? This mother should be put in the hot seat and electrocuted twice.and that bible crap. Depression? Filthy pig stye for the kids? A husband that condoned this stuff? But that lying old bat sat there and said this poor woman homeschooled 5 kids? That include the dead baby for the oldest kid was only 5 or so. Its obvious that old bat got mad at her husband and her life in general and assisted with the right drugs murdered her children instead of her husband. The husband is guilty of neglect - criminal neglect and nothing has been done to him? So end result - did the children murder themselves. Has Paula Poundstone gone to Court yet - they feed these poor homeless children to garbage like Rosie O'Donnel and Paula Poundstone? Put that old bat in the same class as the Clown Gacy.. She wanted to murder her husband, but instead murdered the helpless, defensless children. This garbage on tv sitting there saying she home shooled 5 kids - only onewas of school age. What else did the pig have to do for she sure as hell did not cook proper meals or clean up her pig stye home Do I feel one bit of pity for her? Her medication just enhanced her natural killer instinct. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Raising the Ante: After ... scandals and closures, [L.A.] card clubs plan expansions ...
Well this item is worth reading and note the Rabbis and Dr Moskowitz and Larry Flynt - but this land is Israel? Gambling casinos in Cuba - remember? When Castro took over Meyer Lansky who had a bundle down there which today would bring in a billion or so a year (while peasants like Palestinians were forced into streets).anyway Lansky had the hit put on JFK for he and Bobby were after these corrupt assassins - drug dealers, running gamling houses and houses of prostitution - nice people? So this article note Larry Flynt moving in a front man for jewish mob - that is all he is, for his pornography has always been front for drugs - wonder who this Harvey Plotnick was that worked for him Note this Dr. Irving Moskowitz and what they will do to the Holy Land? Why it will become a big Vegas - maybe cast lots for someone elses robes? Money changers in the temples? Murder Inc. and we have with us always, the bag man? Who is the bag man today? Is this Condit country, or what. Saba We know now it is Flynt Country for these hicks are oh so impressed with this man...this obscene man who molested his own kid, and performd acts of sodomy during a floor show and was aarrested? Original Story - you can pull up more information under highlighted areas. Beginning to get the picture - Israel will become big tourist attraction and boy they will need more hotels. Seee Moskowitz moving in whle Rabbis protest? Stand Up For California! Home Page | About Us | You Can Help | What's New Raising the Ante After a decade of scandals and closures, several area card clubs plan expansions or renovations and two new ones will be built. But cities aren't counting on revenue windfalls. by Hugo Martin Los Angeles Times 1999 June 11, Page B-2 After years of scandals and dwindling revenues, card club owners in Los Angeles County are betting on better days ahead by building two casinos and expanding and renovating several existing clubs. Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt is taking the biggest gamble: He is investing $30 million in a new casino in Gardena, where five casinos have closed since the early 1980s because of financial problems. In Cudahy, the owners of an Orange County bail bond business are building what a representative calls the county's first Latino-themed card club. Meanwhile, club owners in Commerce, Hawaiian Gardens, Huntington Park and Bell Gardens are planning expensive expansion and renovation projects to revive flagging business. The new clubs and expansions will add nearly 260 card tables, increase the number of tables in the county by more than a third, to 980. In previous years, municipal officials--who depend on casino revenues for up to 50% of their city budgets--might have welcomed these developments effusively and counted on extra revenues. But history has taught them caution. Because gambling revenues have become so unreliable, these officials say, they are trying to diversify their cities' economies. With the money we get from the card club, we are looking to try to attract new businesses and retain the businesses we have in town, said Hawaiian Gardens Mayor Pro Tem Leonard Chaidez. The history of casinos in the county has been a sad, sordid tale. Half a dozen clubs have closed in the last decade because of mismanagement, corruption and what some experts say is over-saturation. Tax revenues from the seven existing clubs have dropped by as much as a third since 1992, according to a survey of city records. The Commerce Club Casino, the largest card club in the county, with 220 tables, is the only casino whose contributions to city coffers have not flagged. The closures and dwindling revenues have created huge headaches for city officials, who have relied on casino money to fatten meager budgets in working-class communities with diminished tax bases. Nevertheless, encouraged by the strong economy, club owners insist that profitable days are ahead. They believe that the public is increasingly tolerant of gambling, as demonstrated by overwhelming voter support in November for Proposition 5 , the measure to expand casino gambling on Indian reservations. The market will be sufficient for all of us, said Ron Sarabi, general manager of the Hawaiian Gardens Casino, who is planning to expand from six card tables to 150 this summer. The state has imposed a moratorium on new casino licenses until 2001, but the moratorium does not prohibit expansion of existing casinos. (The two new clubs will operate under the existing licenses of defunct casinos.) Although gambling experts say that the demand for casinos is limited, club owners insist that they can expand the market by reaching out to new gamblers through improved marketing and specialized services. The Mehr family, which operates one of the largest bail bond companies in Orange County, is building the Club Caribe Casino in the square-mile city of Cudahy. The club is licensed for only eight tables, but the family
Re: [CTRL] NE: Condit's Plan to Get Rid of Body (Full Transcript)
-Caveat Lector- Well maybe Condit is being destroyed for he is a 'conservative' - a Blue Dog? And the Mossad sent in a prostitute as they sent in little Monica to sodomze the President of the United Statel while phone calls were tapped and KGB sat in the office of the FBi in if you forgive the ridiculous term - counter-intelligence - Zionist Inc. Note all the filth and garbage began with the advent of the likes of the Clintonites and those who sleep in same bed with the Great Sodomist Larry Flynt who wants to drag society down to his level. Now in California most notably as of late in Orange County Larry Flynt and this Dr. Irving Moskowitz who used corrupt money and gambling/bingo money to move in on Arab land (which was protested by local Rabbis and other humanitarian organization - ) it seems we have Meyer Lansky revisited now going on it Israel and in California. Now Gary Condit had to be reduced to their level without a doubt and this is just a theory - this man somehow got involved with the jewish girl Chandra Levy who ws on payroll she thought, of Mossad when in fact she was on payroll, of criminal syndicate for hey California is up for sale? Condit was one of the Blue Dog Conservativesconsider Monica with her Pizza Pie and then wondner, did Chandra do any cooking for Condit - east to lure a man getting to his age on with more than just pizza pie. How did she get the jobwhat about their Cleveland and Columbus, Ohio connections - for there is something odd about this whole family. Just a thought for I keep thinking of all these doctors here in Columbus (and Levys had friends here) who were into drugs, pornography, murder - and lo and behold had hit man dressed like a Count Sheriff murder a black doctor and blame young innocent black kid? Now I helped exposed that onemore I think of it then we had Klebold from Ohio? What about Scarborough.something very wrong here. But remember the Zionists were set for the take over in the year 2,000 but Bush beat themthey like in wait like cowardly hit and run Gideons... We see footsteps of Zionists and the criminal organization ADL and Bnai Brith - we see their handowork in Waco, Ruby Ridge, and this latest incident in LA where a young guy was burned alive with his dog. Sodom and Gomorrah? I say, all those wild fires in California set by arsonistswonder why? Remember you have this sinister cororupt Jewish Mafia operating out there now and this evil Dr. Moskowitz sitting back and taking dirty money to Israel and if they have there way Israel will thrive as Cuba did once, while the local peasants lay in streets watching oh golly, what fun. Anything these vermin touch, they dirty up or destroy. Beware of Jews who say they are Jews and are not and beware of sodomists like Larry Flynt and I thought public sodomy wwas a feilony - anybody know that guy's real name. Too bad the guy who nailed him, was such a poor shot. Saba Was Gary Condit set up by Jewish Mafia? He may have been vulnerable at the dangerous age, this vain man and who got Meyer Lansky, this rat faced pig's kid in West Point? ADL taking money from murder inc. and drug dealers and pigs like Marc Rich? Somehow all these connectons lead to Columbus - even Levy friends but then what would you expect for Columbus has for years been a big laundering center for dirty money. Pigs are pigs.Larry Flynt is front man but who is Chief Pig now and Dr. Irving Moskowitz seems to be one of them - but who is the head pig? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] IMF Has No $$$ ?
-Caveat Lector- Well as they say Welcome to Wartburg.Yo Ho, Yo Ho Yo Ho? Think they are getting the message and no red carpet will be thrown out this time.wonder if these people are insured, wonder if they are not scared crapless by now these would be king makers but then the biggest miracle of all would be that of making their hand picked henchmen silk purses (the old sows ear routine). Why am I enjoying this? What, No NATO or Panzer Tanks will be there - well put it this way, how many people did it take to take out one man and a dog in California or a little church in Waco and a boy and his dog and mother, in Ruby Ridge Maybe they are getting the message that American is not safe place to visit or live anymore - for you see I have finally got the picture - it is our guns they want all right, but the guns of our police? Hey they can take the guns away from the police okay, but not the people. For we are One for All and All for One and one big Wurlitzer. Imagine Clinton went to Seattle he wasnot afraid - he was laughing.but Albright and Kofi Annan the UN Zulu, scared crapless. They stayed home. So there is nothing to fear, but fear itself. Who says - well, one backs down Lion with big whip.but let that Lion catch you off guard and you got a problem. Welcome to Wartburg...Our NATO killer's won't even go to this one. And no wonder they killed Superman. Saba But then we got Batman? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] IMF Has No $$$ ?
-Caveat Lector- How about this one liner??? Yes We Got No Bananas? O'Saba Maybe I send them a donation. Got two tens for a five Joshua? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sex in Space
-Caveat Lector- Well NASA has to spice up their program for people have lost interest. After all, Clinton is a tough act to follow. O'Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Kinzokutaka's Guestbook
know nothing, I believe.but I think this stuff links together and is part of a bigger conspiracy... Further I believe our FBI knows itfor this reason alone, the congressman here who had his two people nearly killed (think the one did die) was a former FBI agent, and a powerful man - the only one to really remain loyal to Nixon in the 70 period. So was it an accident the building fell on this city councilman - and I am glad I crossed the street and headed back to work jaywalking..and the big car which fell on top of the father of Beverly D'Angelo was this an accident? Does it all track back to 1964 when we had a 22 caliber killer at large and many killed and the attorney who represented him, was the one who was going to sue Mark Lane for me for stealing my bible code until our law office blewl up? And then, this lawyer also involved with this same jewish mafia by association Is it to do with DRUGS? I am thinking yes, yes, yes - and guns at one time... Why a Bush in Florida and a Bush in Texas...here a Bush, There a Bush - remembr the 100 dead bodies they found on a small farm how Clinto used this and then story just no interest nobody important buried there/ Obiously it was a CIA burying ground or Mafia burying ground running drugs and illegal mmigrants involved perhaps. So then Gordon Novel pops up working for Flynt, and this one guy who virtually owned this town called my boss to say Gordon Novel ws dangerous? They got to be kidding - Know this is piece meal but maybe somehow this all links - for to control the House and men like Condit and maybe Scarborough - weak links sex is the oldest trap of all. That still leaves us with one missing person, and one dead body of a young girl, who died from hitting head on a desk? So many lies.. And Larry Flynt we have with us always? Big bucks, big front for drugs - contributes heavily to ADL...then do not forget Leo Ryan and Jonestown where Mark Lane survivied to tell the truth running through jungle like bat out of hell? Then Mark Lane pops up with Larry Flynt? And all this stuff. Sorry for the bit and pieces but I say, I do believe someting is wrong here. Am glad I sat on right side of law and believe me I had to keep quiet for I did not want people to think I was paranoid? Was told one thing - some of of these just could not get mad at me for they said I was a psychic. Well then there was this is where a witch popped up, who was MI6 and in with psychics at House of Sun.. Do not worry this will not be continued.but I worked with this with at the beginning of this stuff in 1970 and somebody stole most of my written notes and stuff when my house was broken into some years back. So now I have a computer. Saba http://www.geocities.com/kinzokutaka/geobook.html
Re: [CTRL] Autopsy report on aide released- heart condition known as floppy m...
-Caveat Lector- Remember Amelia, Larry Flynt has files on all these people some of which were given to him by Clinton and his henchmen. Remember Henry Hyde, for there is a little big of Hyde in every man. But Condit it is more like hide and seek - the body that is. Produce the corpus delicti or forever hold your peace? Two things sure - Chandra disappeared of her own accord for revenge for after all she had virtually been fired; or, in the night a car pulled outside here complex, a smiling face opened the car door and off to Klingle Mansion area where lot of construction going on? Remember Jimmy Hoffa - movie showed him getting into big car.but I was told he was gotten away to Canada by one who had good reason to know. Maybe this Flynt thing has gone too far; did he tell me every pay out his million dolalrs for goods on some of the Congressmen? No Way - why should he, for he got the files from ADL and FBI for they work hand in hand. Why do you think Flynt gives so generously to ADL? Because they launder money - dirty money - like Marc Rich's money only there they got caught? So who will be the Holy Joes standing in line to replace these sickos? Well Clinton had Gore ready to step in his shoes, with Holy Joe who could like angel of light quote scripture with halo light over his little dead head. Who will replace Scarborough and who will replace Condit...who replaced Leo Ryan when he was murdered at Jonestown? Who is killing our government. And the Defenders of our Constitution? Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Los Angeles County sheriff's Deputy may have been shot by afellow lawman
-Caveat Lector- Well this I wonder was the reason to cover their own crime? Is this why the Sheriff cried - for himself? No professional should show the hatred he showed stating they had made not mistakes that the house was burned in a deliberate manner and left to burn? This man asked one thing - he said do not kill my dog, and I will go with you and where in fact is the girlfriend? Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Lori Klausutin
-Caveat Lector- Fort Walton Beach office is where she died so the web page I sent to list this must be the little girl unless there are two, the same age, etc. She lived however in Niceville. This Scarborough if picture I saw is recent looks like a very handsome man - the type a young person might go after for his looks? But if this thing I sent out with this five pointed star at top is this Lori for sure, well her husband said on a web page how wonderful she was, et. Now she is dead. Saba Library Home Back DN LIBRARY DN ONLINE Front Page SERVICES Facts Feedback Subscribe Meet the Staff Advertisers LOCAL Regional Links NOTES This article can be found on page A4 of the August 23, 2001 Daily News. EDITORIAL - Klausutis records should be released The medical examiner's office and the Fort Walton Beach Police Department are adding another layer of mystery to the death of congressional aide Lori Klausutis by refusing to release records of their investigations. Their failure to produce the information at this newspaper's request may even be illegal. Mrs. Klausutis, 28, was found dead July 20 in the Fort Walton Beach office of U.S. Rep. Joe Scarborough. Associate Medical Examiner Michael Berkland announced Aug. 6 that Mrs. Klausutis had a heart condition - previously unsuspected - that caused her to collapse. He said she fell, hit her head on a desk, suffered a blood clot and died. Dr. Berkland said there was an obvious injury to Mrs. Klausutis' head. Previous official statements had said there was no sign of trauma. On Aug. 9 the Daily News verbally requested the Police Department's investigative report on the Klausutis case. On Aug. 10 the newspaper made a formal request, in writing, for Dr. Berkland's autopsy report. That was two weeks ago. Police Capt. Ron Bishop says the investigation is open - meaning the records can't be released - until Dr. Berkland's autopsy report is filed with the Police Department. Dr. Berkland says he's been too busy and hasn't gotten around to finishing his report. Until today, the Daily News has not publicized its request for the records. The Klausutis case has prompted many rumors and much speculation. This newspaper decided to pursue the records quietly, hoping that their release would answer our questions about the investigation and the way it was conducted. Instead, failure to release the records only raises more questions. If the police investigation is still open, are other leads being followed? Is there something in the records that the medical examiner and the police don't want the public to see? The withholding of this information does more than inconvenience this newspaper. It appears to violate Florida's public records law. Autopsy reports - except for photos - are public records. The Florida Supreme Court has said the only permitted delay in producing such records for public inspection is the limited reasonable time allowed the custodian to retrieve the record and delete those portions ... the custodian asserts are exempt. Capt. Bishop's argument that the case is still open is, under Florida law, dubious. Criminal investigative information is considered active only if it is related to an ongoing investigation which is continuing with a reasonable, good faith anticipation of securing an arrest or prosecution in the foreseeable future. If the police expect an arrest in the Klausutis case, we'd sure like to know. Otherwise, we'll have to quote Florida's Government-in-the-Sunshine Manual: An agency's unreasonable and excessive delays in producing public records can constitute an unlawful refusal to provide access to public records. Unlawful is not a word the manual uses lightly. It isn't a word we use lightly either. The medical examiner's office and the Police Department should release their records. COPYRIGHT NOTICE The entire contents of Northwest Florida Daily News Online, including its logotype, are fully protected by copyright and registry and cannot be reproduced in any form for any purpose without written permission from Northwest Florida Daily News. © 1997-2001 NORTHWEST FLORIDA DAILY NEWS PRIVACY STATEMENT/USER AGREEMENT STATEMENT A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives
[CTRL] Fwd: Cynthia McKinney is a Communist!
Here is the item on Cynthia McKinney - I will pay for her ticket myself if she returns to her Zulu Tribe. Saba http://www.jeffberry.com/Cynthia/
[CTRL] Fwd: Rejected posting to CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
The distribution of your message dated Sun, 2 Sep 2001 20:29:11 -0400 (EDT) with subject Fwd: 10-year-old dies after shark attack has been rejected because you have exceeded the daily per-user message limit for the CTRL list. Other than the list owner, no one is allowed to post more than 7 messages per day. Please resend your message at a later time if you still want it to be posted to the list. Rejected message (227 lines) - Received: from mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.119]) by listserv.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28383 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 20:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from storefull-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.167]) by mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CAD6A5 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 17:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id RAA19557; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 17:29:11 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAtowX2gGDM+Hpf/M0HsB3LrSpE0cCFFze8Nu19WeMwFhO4Hhb2bO5ipPe From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Saba) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 20:29:11 -0400 (EDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: 10-year-old dies after shark attack Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary=WebTV-Mail-21872-507 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) --WebTV-Mail-21872-507 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Little kid killed by shark attack but of little consequence for all remains open. The child was by a sandbar in four feet of waterin Florida schools of sharks infesting water and little 8 year old lost an arm and still in coma - but oh well, just one little kid and the matter of the black man who lost a leg? What do you think this is all about - what drives these sharks suddenly in by droves an underground seabase, or what.. This is story on web about sandbars and sharks - and the 10 year old was not too far off shore in 4 feet of water by a sandbar but then, well you would not want to hurt the tourist season...s. Well seems America is rapidly becoming a third world banana boat country who does not see fit to warn parents of infested shark waters? Note Life Guards - tell me aren't they trained to be on look-out and do they not know of the habits of sharks? But of little or no consequence - the show must go on - money, money, money... Saba=A0 =A0=A0 =A0 ISAF How, When, Where Sharks Attack Worldwide there are probably 70-100 shark attacks annually resulting in about 5-15 deaths. We say probably because not all shark attacks are reported; our information from Third World countries is especially poor, and in other areas efforts are sometimes made to keep attack quiet for fear of bad publicity. Historically the death rate was much higher than today, but the advent of readily available emergency services and improved medical treatment has greatly reduced the chances of mortality. Actual numbers of shark attacks certainly are going up each year because of increasing numbers of bathers in the water, but there is no indication that there is any change in the per capita rate of attack. Most attacks occur in nearshore waters, typically inshore of a sandbar or between sandbars where sharks feed and can become trapped at low tide. Areas with steep dropoffs are also likely attack sites. Sharks congregate there because their natural food items also congregate in these areas. _ 10-year-old dies after shark attack Suffered severe blood loss after bites on thigh, leg; officials keep beach openSeptember 2 =97 A family is in mourning after their son was fatally attacked by a shark. NBC's Kelly O'Donnell has details. NBC NEWS AND WIRE REPORTS VIRGINIA BEACH, Va., Sept. 2 =97 =A0A 10-year-old boy died early Sunday from wounds he suffered after being bitten in the leg by a shark while standing on a sandbar just off Virginia's coast. It was the latest in a string of shark attacks on the East Coast this summer, but Virginia Beach officials said they would not close their beaches because no other sharks were spotted. =A0 =A0 =A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 The boy did not lose his leg, but the main artery in his thigh was severed, resulting in significant blood loss. =97 SPOKESPERSON Children's Hospital of The King's Daughters in Norfolk =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0DAVID PELTIER, from Richmond, was standing on a sandbar 50 feet from shore in about 4 feet of water at about 6 p.m. when a shark bit the boy, Virginia Beach Mayor Meyera Oberndorf told a news conference Sunday. The attack at Sandbridge Beach, a remote coastal community just south of Virginia Beach, was the first known shark attack in the area
Re: [CTRL] Planes to Patrol N.C. Beach After Shark Death
-Caveat Lector- Well Steve believe you are correct re something underground; earlier this was returned to me, but note these sandbars for it was known sharks lurk in the sandbars, where the little 10 year old previous to these two deaths, also was killed by shark in four feet of water and the cases to which you refer, sandbars involved. As noted in the item I pulled up I wanted to know why sharks coming in as they did 30 years ago - remember Bermuda Triangle and you could see underground activity - planes lost, lots of propaganda, etc. But strange things are happening and what has happened to these kids and other people with regard to sharks is unforgivable...one picture on web some time back showed schools of sharks coming in which were unprecedented. Like bats - and birds - sonar systems upset by this stuff - like my little black box tht drove squirrels out of my attic - but when I read this box made in China - it said designed to cause pain to these animals - and this squirrel the one up in the attic looked mad and angry and ready to attackattack squirrels. Now if these things can do this to squirrels - can it cause road rage and people to become more aggressive - headaches, and lord knows what else. Regardless the article I forwarded shows these sharks lurk near sandbars.and what has happened all these children and for sheer greed like movie Jaws nothing done. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: African leaders press for apology and Castro demands reparations.
Zulu and Ubangi Nations call for apology along with Castro? Zonist racist issue is dead - Jesse Jackson makes demands and what? What is Shirley Temple doing to earn her money? Wouldn't she be rather a source of embarrassment considering her old movies where she tolerated the plantation slaves with their children who bowed at all fours? So apologies why? Reparations? There was no law agains slavery in Africa for it was Black Africans who sold us the refuse from their shores that nobody else wanted.some in chains? I say they want an apology well that is okay by me so long as they return them all back to Africa - AIDS you see is not considered important but regardless I have list of all the slave ships and would be easy to get names of those who owned their very own slaves.my great etc. grandfather had many many slaves now they might have picked cotton, but they sure as hell did not design the house nor did they say build the cathedrals like Notre Dame I agree apology necessary for we are truly sorry some greedy bastads running slaves as they do today to Israel (just got caught) brought all these black slaves to USA - get them all one way tickets with right to return saba Afri African leaders press for apology Mideast tensions threaten to derail U.N. conferenceSept. 1 -- Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo speaks Saturday to the World Conference Against Racism in South Africa. NBC's Dana Lewis reports on the controversy surrounding the meeting. MSNBC NEWS SERVICES DURBAN, South Africa, Sept. 2 While African leaders at a U.N. conference on racism Saturday asked for Western countries to apologize for their role in colonialism and slavery, Middle East tensions threatened to sink the meeting despite pleas by Nelson Mandela to seize the chance to end the contagion of discrimination. The mood at the meeting was soured when thousands of non-governmental organizations, meeting on the margin of the conference, voted early Sunday to condemn Israel as a racist apartheid state. '(Racism) kills many more than any contagion. It dehumanises anyone it touches.' NELSON MANDELA Former president of South Africa MANDELA, THE father of South Africa's multi-racial democracy, made an impassioned call for delegates to put aside differences and act to rid the world of a disease that was an ailment of the mind and the soul. It kills many more than any contagion. It dehumanizes anyone it touches, the 83-year-old former South African president said in a recorded speech on the second day of the U.N. Conference Against Racism. RIGHTING 'A HISTORICAL WRONG' President Olusegun Obasanjo of Nigeria, Africa's most populous state, said an apology was the only way to heal the wound left by the human trafficking and that an apology did not necessarily open countries to financial claims. Some 12 million Africans were shipped to north and south America, often in chains, during the some 400 years in which the slave trade flourished until the 19th century. We must demonstrate the political will and assume the responsibility for the historical wrong that is owed to the victims of slavery, Obasanjo told the conference. German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer, one of a small number of top Western government officials at the Durban conference, offered his country's apology. He said a recognition of guilt was the way to restore to the victims and their descendants the dignity of which they were robbed. I should therefore like to do that here on behalf of the Federal Republic of Germany, he told the conference in a speech. Germany was a former colonial power in Africa. But the U.S. and most other European countries are wary of offering too explicit an apology for fear of legal litigation and have rejected any notion of reparations. CASTRO CALLS FOR REPARATIONS In a rousing speech frequently interrupted by applause, Cuban leader Fidel Castro called directly on the United States to pay reparations for slavery. Advertisement After the purely formal slavery emancipation, African-Americans were subjected during 100 more years to the harshest racial discrimination, and many of its features still persist, Castro said. Cuba speaks of reparations, and supports this idea as an unavoidable moral duty to the victims of racism. Cape Verde President Pedro Verona Rodrigues Peres called for voluntary reparations and financial support for Africa. But Obasanjo said reparations could split Africa from black people living in the diaspora, and an apology would suffice. Apology is intrinsic in the healing process, he said. Apology closes the door to bitterness and anger ... and does not promote any reprisals and litigation. ARAFAT CRITICIZES ISRAEL Despite the debate over slavery, attention at the conference focused on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, with the NGO Forum accusing Israel
[CTRL] Fwd: Investigators find body believed to be alleged gunman's
So this sick twisted BATF had the chance to pick up this guy with no problem; the request was made that they not kill his dog and he would give up. But at Waco and Ruby Ridge it has been a policy to kill the kids and dogs first - good thing the guy didn't have any kids in the house or did he? Anybody know for sure? Would like to know more about this officious woman who was on the television who must be so proud of herself bigtiming it with the oh my goodness, the Federal Marshalls that we hire in our area off the streets - process servers? The man said he would give himself up if they did not kill his dog - now this PR mouthpiece stated he guy they said acted strange, did not wear a uniform - most US Marshalls I have seen do not wear uniforms, unless they would be dressed like a bus driver. Qualifications cannot be too much for Elvis Presley was to get a US Marshall badge and this authenticated jewish mafia in Columbus, Ohio - two of them were to get or did get, their little badges - imagine a black doctor opening the door, and seeing a mafia hit man dressed like a County Sheriff, an Assistant County Coroner, and a Foot Doctor standing on his steps, around midnight - with a big gun and a razor sharp knife for you see these would be Marhals (minus the hit man but plus one other guy who was drug addicted alcoholic who ws getting the badges for them) - imagine this doctor on a Halloween night answering his door - last thing he saw before he was blow away no doubt was the surgical knife where he was going to be castrated? And what - they did not have time to leave the neo nazi literature...so a black kid was framed for the crime? US Marshall badges are easily acquiredwere the Federal Marshalls in uniform and do they now have a uniform they wear to issue warrants? Why was the deputy late in arriving? Did they show credentials but then, if this guy impersonated police officers, etc., how would he know for sure, if these guys were the real thing? Nice holocaust and I wonder if the guy had been black, would this have happened? Oh no and without a doubt he had to be put on a hit list by someone. Reading between lines here far more ineresting than the report itself. Why was the Deputy Sheriff late? something wrong here.nobody trusts or likes this BATF which is now just another off shoot of Bnai Brith's ADL these days? Who set the stages for serial murders of militia, christians, you name it - its your ADL knocking at your door in disguise Maybe when UN gets done with some of this stuff some of these bastards will be walking a little shorter than they stand already. Saba Note the dead dog with his master - and lies - consider BATF and the ADL hit hate lists. Fire broke out during a standoff with an armed suspect Investigators find body believed to be alleged gunman's NBC4.TV SANTA CLARITA, September 1 Investigators found human remains believed to be those of James Beck on Saturday in the burnt shell of the home where the one-time police officer barricaded himself during a deadly gun battle. The body thought to be that of Beck, who allegedly killed a Los Angeles County sheriff's deputy during a dramatic siege Friday morning, was found lying on top of an assault rifle. A second rifle was within reach, said Los Angeles County sheriff's Lt. Carl Deeley. Investigators also found the remains of a dog, more weapons and a charred police badge. We just found a body. We found human remains we assume to be Beck's in the location, Deeley said around 12:30 p.m., six hours after investigators began to search through the rubble. Beck, 35, allegedly fired about 150 rounds at federal officers and sheriff's officials who tried to serve a search warrant at his home in this affluent city 22 miles north of Los Angeles. Authorities obtained the warrant about three weeks after a neighbor called the U.S. Marshals Service to report suspicions that Beck was stockpiling weapons and falsely claiming to be a U.S. Marshal. They were afraid of this guy out there. He was just acting too goofy to be a law enforcement officer like he claimed, said William Woolsey, public information officer for the Marshals Service in Los Angeles. Fatally wounded in the gunfight was Los Angeles County Sheriff's deputy Hagop Jake Kuredjian, a 17-year department veteran. Kuredjian, 40, who co-workers said was like an older brother to fellow officers, had recently achieved a lifelong dream by becoming a motorcycle officer. It remained unclear Saturday if Beck started the blaze that destroyed his home after the gunfight, or if it was sparked by tear gas projectiles fired into the house. It wasn't the first time Beck had tangled with the law. Police records show he had numerous prior convictions for burglary, receiving stolen property and impersonating a police officer, among other things. Beck did have a brief law enforcement background. He was an Arcadia police officer from June 1987 to August 1988
Re: [CTRL] Fw: James Beck's body still not found
-Caveat Lector- The man's body and body of his German Shepard dog have been found. Watch the Sheriff and the BATF lie about this one but I want to know more of this Mrs. Marks or Marx who broke her ass to get on TV .. Well there is always another Timothy McVeigh out there, somewhere - and while California is burning one wonders, if it is worth the life of our fireman to go out there and save these more afflluent areas from total destruction. For Sodom and Gomarrah are burning - and like Israelis say, you kill my kid, I kill yours - you kill my dog I kill ten of yours, and so on. BATF is rotten to the core but why did this Deputy Sheriff arrive late? Who had the authority to go to the door of this man's house with a search warrant - this Sheriff looked like a very sick man who said they made no mistakes - as the house and the occupants within, burned to death. I wish the same upon that bastard. His tears were not that convincing. I had a friend and his wife and son burned to death in a house - by union people under CFR Jerry Wurf.the one son still lives to tell the truth but like Jock Yablotsky - those were days when Unions too were being taken over by CFR all over the country and this is why we are destroyed from within, and nearly all industries have moved quietly away. Tell me if these are really Americans killing Americans at Waco or are they ADL thugs - for FBI lied about one of their own working on payroll of ADL - who let the children burn and be blown apart in Murrah building while they warned their FBI and BATF friends to stay home? Check it out - ADL had FBI working on their payroll; they have been stealing police records, But you want to know with whom you are dealing - remember the men on the USS Liberty for the Israelis napalmed them and tried to burn them all to death - 171 wounded, 34 dead but this ship survived. I see the hand of ADL is this shooting just fine for you see, they serve as advisors to the FBI and provide material on how to handle terrorists - like this man, who one nigh went to a block party and had a little fun, and the next day he was burned to death with his dog, due to the actions of a woman who obviously - well guess what she was and still is? hope Beck has some friends out there. Had they taken the dog to safety, none of this would have happened - but why was the Sheriff so overly upset? That he maintained nothing was done that had not been planned? Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Joshua2 - Some Stuff on Militia - no need to lurk on their lists......
So this is the hearing and if you use find key you will note Norman Olson and JJ Johnson were present, and requested a check into the weather modification program? Evidently nothing ever came of it. At the time of Oklahoma I had lots of information re the Militias for a Mr. Mark Korneke was in town and his interest was in the assassination of JFK - for you see Mark Lane had planted a lot of crap it seems that reached clean up to Michigan? I was reading the one book when the Murrah Building blew up - and knew immediately, that this Korneke was somehow involved and sure enough, the FBI herded him in - for no good reason other than to maybe get a report on what he put out. Reason I did not like Korneke? Well, I was told to watch PBS or a Government Channel that night for he would be there - which I did - for I wanted to warn them if they had any connections with Mark Lane to watch out for disaster soon would follow - you see Lane was at Jonestown, with Dorothy Kilgallon night she died and went home happ, was hooked up to Larry Flynt while I was surrounded with these vicious jewish killers who ran with Lanskyetc, etc, etcLane had contacts to Halle Bopp Heavens gate through this Michigan Group who wanted to expose only the Federal Reserve and save the Farmers from losing their farms and of course the ADL would have them on a hate hit list. Tell you what I found out - the night Mark Korneke stood on TV and I watched he mentioned the JFK assassination and then asked who would stand beside him when trouble came and then said if you do be prepared to use these - a pulled out a submachine gun - you know like the Israelis carry and like the Jewish Black Trench Coat Mafia carried at Littleton? So - when Korneke pulled the submachine gun I thought I am out of herehey, I am only interested in JFK stuff - but since that time Korneke has been virtually persecuted by the feds. How can this be when there are numerous Militian Generals they call them, who are on ADL payroll? Like little Buford, this man ran home to his Mother in a taxi when he went overboard but not before he left little red arrows to a lot of neo nazi literature - like he stuff the Jewish Mafia had in my area which I personally saw - also had a little printing machine and I remember the blue ink smelled funny as though it was deliberately sprayed with this offensive odor? So all is not as it seems to be. Little Joshua2 would do better to spy on ADL lists than Militia Lists but for the record, the attached is official - here sits JJ Johnson, and they were told he was in the KKK but when he walked in he is a very black man - and I might add, owns Sierra Times and shows more good judgment and sense than a lot of so called big time newspapers. Evil is as Evil Does.We need militias and we need them now.Oklahoma was designed by the ADL - for they called their little friends at BATF and FBI and this one judge to say - hey stay home April 19 for this place is out of here. Oh what a Rembrandt it was reported on the web? Better be sure you know the messenger. You see I had an Uncle who was Secret Service and also a Klansman during WWIInobody knew he was Secret Service and I remember the only real threat in the area was this Black Legion and for what it stood, who knows - never did anything but hold a few meetings - on a secret farm but secret societies do make such nice covers for either Murder Inc. or Government Business or perhaps Both? How about that Militia asking the feds to investigte themselves re the Weather Control Program? And McVeigh attempting to infiltrate the Michigan Militia and of course we had Joshua2 invading by lurking on Militia listsoh so secretof course Pitcavage and ADL listening - and providing the hate hit lists. And I wonder - was James Allen Beck on a list comprised by the ADL? Even his dog on the list as potoential killer? So Militias serve a useful purpose and today the UN and ADL with their criminal associates (which includes Marc Rich) attempt to disarm the militias and Americans? This evil ADL and Bnai Brith are Mafia Confraternities and have laundered dirty money for years? So Remember the USS Liberty the next time someone is what they call Wacoized now.keep thinking of those little tricycles outside the little church and the dead dogs who were shot by BATF like Ruby Ridge, to draw out the kids for their little pets bodies so they could put a bullet through their brains too? Well so long as there is a farmer with a load of fertilizer and a pitchfork this ADL better watch its step -this cats paw for the Bnai Brith and Federal Reserve System? There are a lot of nuts out there - you know, the kind that Meyer Lansky said to find to hit the President of the United States and his brother who were in the process of sending this rat faced bastard to prison? Saba (this story is worth reading from records..this Wordon and Vanerboeg or Red as he is called, supposedly
Re: [CTRL] Cali Sniper
-Caveat Lector- Gary Condit's brother had police dogs set for destruction which he took knowing hey were dangerous, but I doubt for humanitarian purposes - they were to be sold. He also had 9 or 10 guns he pilfered from the police - and hey what about all those guns turned in by the public for the meltdown - some ending up in hands of murderers on the streets? Think I believe this story for the records have been sealed and this man was set up like David Koresh - one man and the need to burn him alive? When it all could have been avoided? Police love guns - they go to gun shows, a gun if what keeps them mostly from being another statistic on the street. With all the crimes and murders and drugs - like Washington DC - oh protect these bankers coming in but what about a Chandra Levy or the little Chinese girl, interns who could not even leave a restaurant or their own apartment without being murdered or just plain disappearing? George Bush better get off his dead ass and get this BATF in linewe have already had the FBI virtually taken over by the ADL and KGB - and toss in the Mossad, for they sent in the prostitute to sodomize the President of the United States. To think that this man - this vicious baby killer - was permitted to get away with murder and now is drawing millions of dollars a year while Waco screams for revenge and justice? Get this mafia infested ADL out of our government - note, they only seem to enjoy killing Christians (like Littleton and Waco and Ruby Ridge) and in particular little christian children. For who was that Zionist pig who said from now on the sins of the children will be visited upon the fathers for you see these pigs, this bible calendar code I have - these pigs use it and no doubt got it from the Russian Guard? Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] And Justice for All?
-Caveat Lector- This story leaves much to be desired; no charges filed yet, not even a Failure to Control a Motor Vehicle? Still investigating? Wonder who the person was who owned the Mercedes Benz - anyone else would have been cited on the spot. A case I cannot forget is the poor guy who evidently ran a red light or got caught running yello - he was hit, the air bag went off, and his son, his little 4 year old as I recall in front in car seat, was decapitated. Now this guy was charged with murder or manslaughter on the spot - when not a discouraging word was directed to the guy who made the cr or the air bags? Just curious here especially after the treatment the guy got impersonating an officerby the way they said they thought nobody was hurt in the one house where there was a baby and mother and the home was riddled with bullets - wonder if they ever checked it out? Saba Car kills woman and child on sidewalk NBC4.TV LAGUNA HILLS, September 2 A Mercedes-Benz jumped a curb and rammed into three pedestrians, killing a woman and a 2-year-old girl who were dragged along the sidewalk, authorities said. The woman and the toddler were pronounced dead at the scene following the accident 8:30 p.m. Saturday. Another woman was in stable condition early Sunday at Mission Hospital Regional Medical Center, said Lt. Colin Murphy with the Orange County Sheriff's Department. The identities of the victims were not immediately released. (Oh I love this comment below - Saba) The driver was not injured. She was not arrested and it was not immediately known if she would face any charges, authorities said. Accident investigators had not released a report on the crash by early morning, Murphy said. The women and the child were walking along Hon Avenue near Alicia Parkway when for some unknown reason a woman drove the Mercedes E320 onto the sidewalk and struck them, said Steve Doan, a spokesman with the Orange County Sheriff's Department. It did not appear that alcohol or drugs were involved, Doan said. Witnesses told authorities the victims were dragged some 60 feet before the silver Mercedes came to a stop. Laguna Hills is in Orange County, about 50 miles southeast of Los Angeles. Current Conditions 88° HIGH 83° LOW 64° »TOP STORIESLOCAL SPORTSLOCAL WEATHER MORE L.A. NEWS RECIPES HOT FROM HOLLYWOOD FREE E-NEWS ALERTS Get breaking news delivered to your desktop and daily E-News alerts. Choose more local news from participating MSNBC affiliates Question or comment for our newsteam? Send us an email MSNBC is optimized for: Microsoft Internet Explorer Windows Media Player MSNBC Terms, Conditions and Privacy © 2001 Cover | News | Business | Sports | Local | Health | Technology | Living Travel TV News | Opinions | Weather | Comics | Information Center | Help | News Tools | Write Us | Terms, Conditions, and Privacy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ADL Garbage and Mark Pitcavage Hate Machine
tried for one murder and had printing press for they printed neo nazi literature and had murdered this black doctor, Dr. Walter Bond - Saba Note - see Dr. Donald Plotnick Case] Nutter lists as danger signs of potentially lethal extremism such things as possession of extremist literature (he specifically cites THE NEW AMERICAN), the display of firearms lapel pins, bumper stickers or window decals about the New World Order, Clinton Communism, 'I fear the government that fears my gun,' and the like. Police are also advised to be wary of citizens who display excessive concern over the federal government's massacre of the Branch Davidians, the murderous federal assault upon the Randy Weaver family in Idaho, or similar abuses of power. Of particular concern, insists Nutter, are strong proponents of the Second Amendment who believe in the right of individuals to possess 'arms' and are fearful of any limitations on weaponry. Nor is Nutter the only expert advising police officers regarding such danger signs. In his book Freedom in Chains, scholar James Bovard reports: At a 1997 American Society of Criminology conference one professor argued that among signs of 'hate group ideology' were 'discussion of the Bill of Rights, especially the Second Amendment or the Federalist Papers,' 'discussion of military oppression, in the U.S. or elsewhere,' and 'discussion of the Framers of our Government.' From that academic expert's perspective, all one needs to do to qualify as a potential hate criminal is to profess a love for our Constitution. Kay Stone and Jean Vallance of Alamogordo, New Mexico, discovered that these expansive definitions are being taken seriously by some law enforcement officers. As THE NEW AMERICAN has previously reported (see Mark Them as 'Extremists' in our November 23, 1998 issue), Mrs. Stone and Mrs. Vallance, both of whom are retired grandmothers, found themselves under scrutiny by the New Mexico State Police after they had participated in talk-radio discussions of the United Nations on a local call-in program. The scrutiny of the two retired grandmothers followed the publication of a report entitled The Extremist Right: An Overview, which was compiled by the Criminal Intelligence Section of the New Mexico Department of Public Safety (DPS). That report, which was larded with citations from the familiar pack of left-wing watchdogs, described the radical right as a continuum from those who disagree with government but operate within the law to those who work at nothing less than the overthrow of government. These groups call themselves 'Patriots.' The roster of potential terrorists described in the DPS document included Klansmen, neo-Nazis, and other practitioners of violence, as well as militant abortion foes [and] radical anti-environmentalists, and others who espouse political conspiracy theories. The anti-extremist dragnet cast by the DPS must have been incredibly vast and tightly knit in order to snag two retired grandmothers one of whom, Mrs. Vallance, is married to an employee at Holloman Air Force Base as potential terrorists on the basis of remarks made on a radio call-in program. Alluding to this incident in New Mexico, Laird Wilcox noted, The real danger posed by these 'watchdog' groups is that their intelligence is taken seriously by police officers, who don't have the time or resources to examine that information carefully. Being a policeman is a dangerous job, and when a policeman is told by a supposedly authoritative source that a given individual belongs to a potentially violent group, he has to take such warnings seriously. As a result, Wilcox continued, routine traffic stops can become 'incidents' that are good for neither the police nor the average citizen. Let's say that a guy gets stopped for speeding and when his name is run through the computer he's been red-flagged as a 'dangerous' person on the basis of information fed to the police by some left-wing radical posing as a 'watchdog.' So instead of merely asking the driver for his license and other information, the officer now approaches the car in a defensive posture, ready to draw his gun not because of anything the driver did, but because he somehow ended up on a list compiled by some self-appointed left-wing 'watchdog' group. The problem described by Wilcox becomes even graver when it is understood that in the near future, police and federal authorities may be using watchdog-compiled lists to decide who is, and who is not, entitled to enjoy the protections offered by the Bill of Rights. A Watchdog in Fedgov's Kennel by William Norman Grigg In the wake of recent revelations of FBI misconduct and cover-up in the Waco disaster, Establishment media organs such as the New York Times, Washington Post, and the broadcast networks have retailed comments from left-wing watchdogs intended to diminish the impact of the scandal. One conspicuous example was a cover story in the September 2nd New York Times, in which America's self-styled
Re: [CTRL] Zionism: Let the facts speak for themselves (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Well end of question and problem will be when Osama bin Laden sends in his men with little neutron bomb back packs for the Isaelis are asking for it..remember Sodom and Gomorrah? Maybe Larry Flynt can save them. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: David Duke On Jews
Here is one voice the Zionists have not been able to squelch - even on NBC when it was noted he had had a nose job (and he had a beautiful nose before) Duke looked at the commentator, a rather ugly little man with coke bottled glasses and said he you could use a little work yourself.. So maybe Duke is not onto the Zionist Master Plan as yet, or maybe he does not know who murdered JFK yetbut he seems to learn quick. He is on the Zionist and ADL Hit Hate List but strange, the Russians seemed to love him and then shortly thereafer all those Russian kids in Israel were slaughtered? As this one Zionist pig said the iniquities of the fathers will be visited upon the children, and then the iniquities of the children will be visited upon the fathers. So you see who uses the Master Plan for Murder Bible Code and Calendar keyed to stars and testaments? Even Meyer Lansky knew what this calendar was but the there is a third position they say who also is in now for the kill. Saba I like David Duke - for he is a real man, ot limp wrist and chubby cheek or lard ass like Pitcavage? Home | Law Enforcement | Search | About | Contribute | Contact David Duke: In His Own Words IntroductionOn BlacksOn the KKKOn SegregationOn JewsOn the HolocaustOn ImmigrationOn HomosexualsOn ADL Related ADL Article:Abraham H. Foxman Reviews David Duke's My Awakening E-Mail This Report Printable Version Help ADL Fight Bigotry! On Jews In September, 1999, Duke met with Communist Duma deputy Albert Makashov, a Russian nationalist, at the editorial offices of Zavtra, a nationalist newspaper. The following quotes are taken from The Moscow Times (10/16/99): Russia's biggest problem is organized crime and its leaders are influenced by the Russian mafia, Duke said. But it's not right to call it a Russian mafia, it's a Jewish mafia. The Russian Federation has a growing Moslem minority, which is causing cultural and religious clashes. This is similar to mass immigration of Mexicans to America, and certain presidential candidates are tailoring their campaigns to get Mexican votes. We Aryans are those of European descent who are racially conscious and who have committed our lives to our people's survival and evolutionary advancement. We shall do our duty. We shall not surrender our freedom and our very existence to Jewish or any other power. We shall preserve our heritage and our hard-won rights and freedoms. We shall guide our people up the evolutionary stairway to the stars. My Awakening, p. 469 (1998) Jewish power is ubiquitous. Every politician is so aware of it that he knows he cannot dare mention it! Jewish organizations, Jewish media and Jewish political agents ruthlessly seek their perceived interests without remorse and without introspection. Just as single-mindedly as they once orchestrated the Russian Revolution, they now coordinate their power over the goyim. No Jewish leader has to direct his minions to seek political control of Gentile nations; they do it as naturally as the Blue Jay appropriates another bird's nest. No one has to tell Jews to destroy Gentile pride, heritage, honor, loyalty, tradition, while at the same time building up their own. It is in their programming. My Awakening, p. 463-4 (1998) They thoroughly dominate the news and entertainment media in almost every civilized nation; they control the international markets and stock exchanges; and no government can resist doing their bidding on any issue of importance. They can coalesce against any state that resists their power, whether it [sic] economic extortion of a billion dollars from Switzerland or the violent carpet bombing of Iraq. The cohesion of the Jewish people is indeed the context of the New World Order, and with it they propose to extend their totalitarian denial of free speech from Europe and Canada to the nation that was once the most free in the world: the United States. My Awakening, p. 463 (1998) The Jews are trying to destroy all other cultures...as a survival mechanism...the only Nazi country in the world is Israel. Ros Davidson interview, May 13, 1990 (quoted in the San Francisco Examiner, November 13, 1991) They're trying to exterminate our race. I think, probably in a moral sense, the Jewish people have been a blight. I mean as a whole, not every Jew. And they probably deserve to go into the ashbin of history. But saying that and actually shooting or killing people in masses, are two different things. I'm not advocating extermination. I think the best thing is to resettle them in someplace where they can't exploit others. And I don't think they can live among themselves, I really don't. Evelyn Rich interview, February 1986 These Jews who run things, who are producing this mental illness teenage suicide...all these Jewish sicknesses...that's nothing new. The Talmud's full of things like sex with boys and girls. Evelyn Rich interview, March 1985 Jewish people have put the interests of race over the interests
Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) Southern Sovereigns
-Caveat Lector- Well Southern Poverty Stricken Law Center and the ADL are both in it for the money.you have the hoodlum Marc Rich giving to ADL - and you have Morris Dees on a TV show for he made his own propabanda film showing Hou Great Thou (him) Art with a Christmas tree in the scene implying he ws a Christian tree lover? So what do you expect - cannot make silk purse out of sow's earstrange this ADL with 50 million dollar a year budget and all it can steal .and Dees now worth 70 million - and then consider in particular the ADL connetion to organized crime and what a wonder laundering spot for illegal monies? Under Clinton these two made hay and want to beat the American people into submission - as the Israelis do unto the Palestinians, the ADL and Dees would do unto us. Got news for those bastards - get them one way ticket to Israel for no doubt they hold dual citiznship. The Voice of Silence? We will see who has the biggest Wurlitzer - ADL and Dees or as written in Ephisians Awake Thou that Sleepeth and Christ shall give you light...or was that written by Stephen Foster. Consider their connections and their day comes when they too will be exposed to the light for closer scrutiny.their sow's ears are showing. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) Southern Sovereigns
-Caveat Lector- Oh by the way, what Dees is saying is lay off the Israelis and Zionists? Or is he defending the Pope? Or the Militias who are primarily but not necessarily so, Christians? Southern Poverty Stricken Law Center worth over 70 million and ADl worth how much with their associations - tell me, do you know any other charitable undertakers with such regular funding? And where did the Israelis get and where are they getting billions of dollars in diamonds each year - I keep thinking of this KGB agent Hannsen caught in the FBI getting paid off in diamonds he is about as Catholic as that Japanese Sharpshooter at Waco and Ruby Ridge. Note how they love to kill the white trialer trash.or the poor and these bastards are living off the charity of others? Don't kid yourself - they are fronts for orgnaized crime...trying to break white America A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] With Subterfuge and Deception: 'Jews For Jesus' Target Jews
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[CTRL] Fwd: With Subterfuge and Deception: 'Jews For Jesus' Target Jews
Recently there was a movie which Morris Dees paid for on TV which should have been sub titled How Great Thou Art but speaking of deception in this movie, he stands with a little girl alleged to be his daughter - the one he was accused of molesting by his wife, and in the background a Christmas Tree giving the impression this man is a Christian. Then it occurred to me - is he one of the above? Is Dees really a Jew for Jesus - one would think so. This story is part of the ADL propaganda Hate Machine of which Dees, is a part - this Southern Poverty Law Center is the biggest fraud of all - they all seem to hate white trailer trash, as James Carville would say in league with these Jews for Jesus - and I imagine David Duke's recent visit to Russia - well speaks for itself for it seems as of late the Isralis are being outnumbered by the Russkies? Note the new Russkie flag is Red White and Blue for they dropped the Arm and Hammer crap - too obvious but I will say this the Star of David Flag is beautiful and the same beautiful colors of the UN flag? But I say, what they going to do with that Pope - is he a Jew for Jesus or whaat? Zionism is Communism..In League with the Devil - the Anti Christs there name is Legion, for boy they are many? Saba Home | Law Enforcement | Search | About | Contribute | Contact With Subterfuge and Deception 'Jews For Jesus' Target Jews E-Mail This Report Printable Version Help ADL Fight Anti-Semitism! In July 2001, unsuspecting individuals around the country received a slick mailing from Jews for Jesus offering a free video titled Survivor Stories. The mailing depicts an elderly female Holocaust survivor with the message: Some say you can't be Jewish and believe in Jesus. I disagree So won't you at least hear my story before you dismiss my beliefs? Similarly, in a Jews for Jesus Internet promotion of the video, the person says: [B]efore you dismiss my belief, you should know that in addition to being Jewish, I'm also a Holocaust Survivor All I ask is that you hear my story and those of several other remarkable Jews who have suffered greatly and now truly believe in Jesus. A Jews for Jesus flyer called Be More Jewish. Jews for Jesus, whose actual name is Hineni Ministries, is a San Francisco, California-based activist Christian missionary movement aimed directly at people of the Jewish faith. It was founded in 1970 in California by Baptist minister Martin Rosen, a convert to Christianity and a longtime staff member of the American Board of Missions to the Jews, a Christian proselytizing group now called Chosen People Ministries, Inc. Jews for Jesus seeks to convert Jews to the belief that Jesus is the Messiah; it misleadingly claims that accepting Jesus as the Messiah is compatible with Jewish theology. Being Jewish has nothing to do with belief but being Christian is a matter of belief, a spokesman for the group has said. A copy of Issues, a Jews for Jesus bimonthly journalNow in his late-60s, Rev. Rosen, Jews for Jesus founder and longtime prime mover, has been a Baptist minister for more than 40 years. A native of Denver, Colorado, Rosen converted to Christianity in 1953 and left his hometown the following year to attend Northeastern Bible College, from which he graduated in 1957 and received his ordination. He then joined the New York staff of the American Board of Missions to the Jews. There, Rev. Rosen, who was said to be a tireless proselytizer with a folksy style who dropped Yiddishisms into his conversation, served for two years with the Hebrew-Christian Beth Sar Shalom Congregation. For the next 10 years he was the minister of a Hebrew-Christian congregation in Los Angeles. In 1970, Rev. Rosen moved to San Francisco where the Jesus movement was active. There, he exchanged his establishment presence for a denim jacket with Jews for Jesus emblazoned on the back, took to calling himself Moishe Rosen, and began speaking in slogans to attract attention. Until late 1973, support for Jews for Jesus and its activities was provided by Rev. Rosen's sponsoring agency, the American Board of Missions to the Jews. In September 1973, Rev. Rosen with nine others left the employ of the American Board of Missions to the Jews to form his own group, Hineni Ministries, to carry on the aggressive evangelistic activities of the Jews for Jesus group. Throughout the years, Jews for Jesus has promoted its evangelistic message with slogans such as Be More Jewish, Believe in Jesus and Jesus Was Raised in a Kosher Home. Such slogans have appeared on signs at rallies organized by Rev. Rosen and on satirical leaflets and flyers produced by the group. One such flyer is titled Christmas Is a Jewish Holiday (Or at least it should be). It depicts a Christmas tree with a Jewish star on top of it and proclaims: If you knew what we know that Jesus really is the Messiah then you would agree that Christmas should be a Jewish Holiday. Another flyer, titled Welcome to Cyberspace, says
[CTRL] Fwd: SPLCENTER.ORG
Love this one simply entitled Intelligence Report for they have met the enemy and it is uswhat, we not allowed to play music now only unless approved by Dees and Foxmans Corrupt ADL? Wonder if they have tried to censor any religious music yet? For the works of Wagner, is a work of sheer Christian art. Then we have the I've Seen the Light Praise the Lord - sung by Jews for Jesus Saba Music, Money and Murder By Mark Potok Every movement has its music. For liberals and socialists of decades ago, it was the socially aware folk music of Pete Seeger and others like him. For the antiwar counterculture of the 1960s and 1970s, it was the rebellious lyrics of the Rolling Stones and a score of other groups. Today, for the revolutionary right in the United States and Europe, the soundtrack of choice is white power music and more specifically, the bands of national socialist black metal, or NSBM. Perhaps more than any others, the NSBM bands most of which are Scandinavian or German, but which include a handful of American groups have taken racist music to new extremes. Many are not content to merely sing songs of violence and hatred. Like the protagonist in Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment, they have engaged in murders and other crimes as a way of defying society. All that is attractive to William Pierce, the leader of America's leading neo-Nazi group, the National Alliance, and a man who last year acquired Resistance Records, the nation's largest white power music label. Despite his obvious distaste for rock music, Pierce clearly sees the opportunities offered by NSBM. Making Hate Pay As Pierce knows, intelligent, rebellious youths who have crossed some very serious societal lines make good revolutionaries. The music they create, which is often technically quite expert, has proven to be a highly effective recruiting tool for other disaffected youths. And what's more, the music sold by all white power bands is remarkably lucrative so much so, that the entire milieu has increasingly been overtaken by violence. What was once a subculture of angry young racists is more and more the province of organized criminals. Consider the case of Hendrik Möbus, which is detailed in this Intelligence Report's cover story. Arrested outside Pierce's West Virginia headquarters last summer, Möbus is a German neo-Nazi, a convicted murderer of a 14-year-old boy and a key player on the international NSBM scene. He faces deportation back to Germany on charges that he violated his parole in the murder. But his importance to Pierce is something more mundane: Möbus apparently brought Pierce contracts or other arrangements that will help him market some of the most popular NSBM bands Möbus' Absurd is one of them found in the world today. Thanks largely to the fact that neo-Nazi propaganda is illegal in much of Europe, the music of bands like Absurd is extremely lucrative. By banning it and therefore relegating its distribution to criminals, the European authorities have virtually guaranteed that the profit margins for underground sales are enormous much as those for illegal liquor sales during Prohibition were. In fact, these profits are now probably financing much of the European neo-Nazi movement. At the same time, there is high interest in NSBM bands among American racists. Music Without Borders The Pierce- Möbus connection demonstrates another important aspect of the radical right as well its rapidly increasing internationalization. More and more, extremists speak of a pan-Aryan revolution that will stretch across continents. What were once sporadic contacts between American and European racists have become sustained links between the neo-fascists of the Western Hemisphere. For many years, Pierce has visited with leaders of the radical right in Europe. In late 1998, for instance, he was the keynote speaker at a secret meeting in Greece of 150 neo-fascists from 10 countries. But Pierce is not alone. A Pierce friend, the Briton Mark Cotterill, took the lead in recent years in creating the American Friends of the British National Party an outfit designed to provide financial support to the British neofascist organization. Racist Skinheads, especially the notoriously violent Hammerskins, travel more and more frequently to meet their compatriots abroad. And former Klansman David Duke returned in October from three months visiting with neo-fascist leaders in Russia and Eastern Europe. In a typical speech in a downtown Moscow museum, he decried world Zionism and called for dark-skinned people to be ejected from the city. These cases all illustrate a key point. The radical right, like the corporate multinationals it despises, has gone global. Extremist fugitives often find refuge in countries other than their own. Americans, protected by the First Amendment, are providing propaganda over the Internet and in other ways to Europeans who would go to jail for doing the same in their own countries. And the lucrative
[CTRL] Fwd: Meyer Lansky - The Crime Library
Nice story of the Godfather of the ADL and Patron ..Lansky, who had a son admitted to West Point. Richard Dreyfus portrayed Lansky in a recent movie - and though Lansky if you will note in the picture under subject matter, looked more like a rat weasel than a country gentleman which he claimed to be - just a gamblin man, nothing to do with JFK murder. This man profitted by murder and drugs and prostitution - he was kicked out of Cuba by Castro - and Lansky wanted the US Government to rid Cuba of Castro who had made orphanages out of the gambling halls? So at the end of the story if you pull up under subject matter, is Meyer's favorite picture, of himself - he walked short with a great big bun and this is the element with the ADL who wants to disarm America? Poor persecuted Meyer Lansky. Not happy with just getting JFK, he got his brother too. Saba See picture of rat faced Lansky..and they called the other guy weasel. Meyer Lansky: Mastermind of the Mob by Mark Gribben The Mythical Meyer Maybe he said it and maybe he didn't, but Meyer Lansky will forever be identified with the statement that the Syndicate, the underworld conglomerate of hoodlums, mobsters and killers from across the nation, was bigger than U.S. Steel. The boast made for good headlines and helped politicians like Estes Kefauver and Bobby Kennedy build their reputations and later achieved near-factual status when Hyman Roth, the Meyer Lansky-inspired character in the Godfather II repeated it to Michael Corleone. Whether or not Lansky ever really said it, it was probably true. Organized crime in America from the 1930s to the 1980s was big business and Meyer Lansky had helped make it that way. There is a lot about Lansky that is apocryphal. Did he, for instance, meet Bugsy Siegel and Lucky Luciano on the same day? Probably not, but the story still floats around about how Lansky, the hard working son of Jewish immigrants, happened along one day and found Siegel and Luciano brawling over the favors of a prostitute the Italian was pimping. Lansky, the story goes, hit Luciano over the head with a tool from his apprentice's box and stopped the fight. The known facts fit --Luciano did run some bordellos and no one disputes that Benny Siegel liked the ladies. But Lansky never mentions the story in his authorized biographies and Luciano remembers meeting Lansky when Lucky's gang tried to shakedown the young Meyer and was told in no uncertain terms to go f__ themselves. Ok, Little Man, Luciano remembers telling the diminutive Lansky. You get your protection for free. Shove your protection up your ass, Lansky shot back. I don't need it. And Lansky, who would never grow much above five feet, proceeded to prove it to the older boy. Believe me, I found out he didn't need it, Luciano recalled years later. Next to Benny Siegel, Meyer Lansky was the toughest guy, pound for pound, I ever knew in my whole life and that takes in Albert Anastasia or any of them Brooklyn hoodlums or anybody anyone can think of. Mug shot of Meyer Lansky (NYPD) If there ever was a golden age of organized crime, it could be argued that it began with Lansky's descent into the underworld when he placed his first bet on a street corner craps game before the start of World War I and ended when he died in the winter of 1983. Arnold Rothstein, the supposed fixer the 1919 World Series, was the Cronus of American organized crime -- the proto-godfather, if you will. Charlie Luciano stirred up the action, Benny Siegel provided the chutzpa, Lepke Buchalter terrorized the enemy but Lansky rose above the fray and served as the brains of the outfit. Luciano was exiled and died relatively young, Siegel and Rothstein were assassinated and Lepke died in Sing Sing's electric chair, but Meyer Lansky died a wealthy old man in Miami, Florida, where he was known as a supporter of Israel and a frequent contributor to the local public television station. Siegel was more likely to shoot first and ask questions later as he lived and died by the gun. Buchalter, whose Stalinesque purge of his own gang would signal his undoing, was the only mob kingpin to go to the electric chair. Lepke was easy to figure out. He was a cold-blooded killer who was all ego and only interested in profit. Siegel was just your basic psychopath. A nice guy one minute and a killer the next, Bugsy was a big talker and loud dresser who loved mixing it up and let his fists do his talking. Luciano was a little more complex. Lucky killed guys, sure, but he had a sense of honor and nobility about him and seemed to recognize right and wrong even if he ignored it. Lansky was different. He was a family man with a wife and kids and a brother. He had learned a trade and operated legitimate businesses as well as carpet joints and bootleg operations. Lansky was one of the few mobsters who could rein-in his passions, disdaining the spotlight, which attracted up-and-coming gunsels eager to make a name for themselves as well
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SPLCENTER.ORG
-Caveat Lector- To me all Wagner is The Ring...but today there is element who would destroy the Grail Family whom the Knights still defend, I presume. For once this bloodline is mixed it is gone forever Remember Clinton when he entertained the NATO bunch after the Balkans - Heralds were at the door, with trumpets playing Welcome to the Warthogs (I called them Warthogs) right from Wagner? This I found strange - what no ADL to complain? My guess would be they failed to recognize the music. Its a wonder the Clinton's didn't have Killer Rap playing..for the Nazis were coming. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Real Story About CA Shooting? More on Beck
-Caveat Lector- There was a woman interviewed on Tv telephone only - she stated the guy attended block parties, etc., that we are a close knit family here..she then said that she was suspicious of this man for he had told her he was a Federal Marshalland into canine training. A report was also given to media that this man wanted to give up but only if they promised not to kill or hurt his dog - this statement was made several times. The neighborhood they are quick to note was half million dollar homes - however, the constructin looked cheap and shoddy - the man also was throwing canisters out of the window - for more than one tear gas canister was tossed into the house. I watched a portion of it at the beginning but this woman - claimed she had called the Federal Marshalls office to complain because she thought he was not a marshall .so the began to investigate few days before the incident. Now in Columbus they used to take Federal Marshalls off the streets advertising for them in newspapers; this jewish mafia lot, two were going to get Federal Marshall badges and during this same time frame Elvis Presley was attempting to get one - consider Jay Leno running aorund with these other movie actors, etc., carrying guns and were made deputy Sheriffs, etc. The man had done nothing according to what I heard - except this woman and you could hear her kid yelling in the back, thought he was lying about who he was. So this led to the incident. Will say this, Gordon Novel once told me the BATF were the most dangerous people in the world and then said he considered the FBI worse after Waco - he was special investigator down there and had first hand knowledge of what really happened. Something wrong here - one thing - so worried about the other houses catching fire? Well noted how cheap and shoddy construction was all on slabs as earthquake area no basements. Hardly any yard boxed in - but then many homes seem to be built near a ravine where new trees are grown no doubt to prevent erosion; however, it looked to me like a good old fashioned rain and downpour which CA soon will be in for no doubt - and they might have problems. House burned like a tinder box.. This woman who spoke on the phone if what she said was true it is because of her this man died as he did - she reminded me of the kid at Littleton who called CNN rather than 911 to get on the air. In Ohio once there was a law in Ohio Code which stated it was illegal to wear masonic regalia and of course to impersonate an officer - in contrary to law but that does mean a lot more than just telling someone you re canine trainer with Federal Marshalls - the guy could have trained police dogs for law enforcement agencies. This Gary Condit's brother got 9 or 10 guns from the police in Modesto and had a small arsenal which was illegal because he got them from the deprtment where he worked One item said this Beck was a policeman from Arcadia CA who had been let go before his probation was up. Now they are out with the character assassination but here is a man who wanted to be in police work, didn't make the grade - maybe not stupid enough for them.the guy who was killed was supposedly riding up to aid on a motorcycle and the shot was accidental but fatal and knowing some of the police well something wrong here. I hope that old bitch is happy now - a man is dead who did nothing other than say he was allegedly a Federal Marshall who trained dogs, and she called and they said no they did not train dogs and went around the neighborhood checking him out and he ends up with an arrest warrant. And this idiot crying for the death of the officer - he was crying for himself for he was saying they had done nothing improper and he knew without a doubt he job ws on line. What else would one expect out of Los Angeles? Tell me based on what happened to this guy - and Waco - what evil element still lurks in these police agencies that hey believe they can bull around people as they did this man. Showed one spokesman, and I swear they come in types for I have known this bully type - something straight out of guestapo land... What did the man do for a living - he lived in a half million dollar home? He made a mistake by trying to be friendly and going to block parties with some bored stupid people and based on the words of this one woman - the guy is now dead, his dog too no doubt, and his house was burned down. Why the need for so many tear gas cannisters and somebody ought to check into the building code for I say this, these homes are pretty shoddy construction and somebody took a payoff and no doubt many bulding code violations.so close to these other houses .who built them .. Sleaze land personified. Wonder if the guy did shoot the officer or was it friendly fire? Saba. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list
[CTRL] Fwd: Israeli forces pull out of Beit Jalla
First an item I pulled from the web - story of David and Goliath as portrayed by ISLAM.. When you read the one - and then the above - its the same old story - almost. Saba Prophet Dawud (David) When the two armies faced each other, Goliath challenged any soldier from King Saul's army to single combat, as was the custom of battle in those days. Goliath also wanted to show off his strength. The men were terrorized, and no one had enough courage to volunteer. The king offered the hand of his pretty daughter in marriage to the man who would fight Goliath, but even this tempting offer did not change the deadly silence among his soldiers. Then, to everyone's surprise, a youth stepped forward. A roar of laughter echoed from the enemy's side, and even Saul's men shook their heads. The young man was David (Dawud), from the city of Bethlehem. His elderly father had chosen three of his sons to join Saul's army. He had instructed the youngest one, David, not to take part in the fighting but to help the army in other ways and to report to his father daily on what was happening on the war front. Although Saul was very impressed by the youth's courage, he said: I admire your courage, but you are no match for that mighty warrior. Let the strong men come forward. David, however, had already decided and was willing to meet the challenge. Proudly, he told the king that only the day before he had killed a lion which had threatened his father's sheep, and on another occasion he had killed a bear. He asked Saul not to judge him by his appearance, for he feared no man or wild beast. Saul, surprised by young David's brave stance, agreed: My brave soldier, if you are willing, then may Allah guard you and grant you strength! The king dressed David in battle armor and handed him a sword, but David was not used to wearing battle dress. He felt uncomfortable in it, and it obstructed his movements. He removed the armor, then collected a few pebbles and filled his leather pouch with them. He slung it over his shoulder next to his sling. With his wooden staff in hand, he began to walk towards the enemy. Saul was worried and asked him how on earth, with a sling and a couple of stones was he going to defend himself against the giant? David replied: Allah Who protected me from the claws of the bear and the fangs of the lion will certainly protect me from this brute! When Goliath set eyes on the lean young man who looked like a boy, he laughed loudly and roared: Are you out to play war with one of your playmates, or are you tired of your life? I will simply cut off your head with one swipe of my sword! David shouted back: You may have armor, shield, and sword, but I face you in the name of Allah, the Lord of the Israelites, Whose laws you have mocked. Today you will see that it is not the sword that kills but the will and power of Allah! So saying, he took his sling and placed in it a pebble from his pouch. He swung and aimed it at Goliath. The pebble shot from the whirling sling with the speed of an arrow and hit Goliath's head with great force. Blood gushed out, and Goliath thumped to the ground, lifeless, before he had a chance to draw his sword. When the rest of his men saw their mighty hero slain, they took to their heels. The Israelites followed in hot pursuit, taking revenge for their years of suffering at the hands of their enemy, killing every soldier they could lay hands on. In this battle the Israelites regained the glory and honor that had been lost for a long time. David became a hero overnight. Saul kept his word and married his daughter Michal (Miqel) to the young warrior and took him under his wing as one of his chief advisors. Almighty Allah declared: So they routed them by Allah's Leave and David killed Goliath, and Allah gave him (David) the kingdom (after the death of Saul and Samuel) and wisdom, and taught him of that which He willed. And if Allah did not check one set of people by means of another, the earth would indeed be full of mischief. But Allah is full of Bounty to the Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exist). (Ch 2:251 Quran). David became the most famous man among the Israelites. However, he was not inveigled by this; he was not a prisoner of fame or leadership but a prisoner of Allah's love. Therefore, after killing Goliath he went out into the desert in the company of nature, glorifying Almighty Allah and contemplating His favors. Verily, We made the mountains to glorify Our Praises with him (David) in the Ashi (after the mid-day till sunset) and Ishraq (after the sunrise till mid-day). And (so did) the birds assembled: all with him (David) did turn (to Allah, glorified His Praises). We made his kingdom strong and gave him wisdom and sound judgment in speech and decision. (Ch 38:18-20 Quran) Creatures such as the plants, birds, beasts, and even the mountains responded to his voice glorifying Allah. Allah had chosen David to be a prophet and revealed the Psalms to him. As He
Re: [CTRL] DMN: Prison sought in Bush tape case
-Caveat Lector- Well Prudey used to be state law in Ohio in some instances Secretaries were bound by secrecy - one does not rat fink on their boss other than in cases of murder and treason used to be old ground rules. This woman obviously was on the take - she worked for nobody, and thought she ws super spy. Also she probably expected something in return - as I recall she was Hispanic. So the Watergate Burglars got off pretty good too if you call Hunts wife killed in plane crash part of the deal and Liddy alone remained silent loyal to whom? Think I already stated this, but once I said during Watergate that if I knew who named that Motel I would know who set up Nixon - well, the Motel was owned by the Pope - like Josephinium, answered right to Vatican? And Lawrence O'Brien - well the O'Briens were the first Kings of Ireland. So Liddy was trained as a Jesuit - for some reason these kids in the universities across the country liked him.So maybe they knew who and what he was - recognized the style. As for McCord, Bud Fensterwald represened him - and they called him CIA - McCord was just what they used to call, a night watchman - no big secrets did he hold, but he seemed to be loyal to the Company. Bob Woodward and Deep Throat - my MI6 friend said his initials were AH but she would give me no more but I said oh no, initials are HK? Neither one of us wanted to go to The Rock, or as they called it Alcatraz for knowing too much? Now Haig did have big blast in National Enquirer once, and I was SHOCKED. Now my friend worked for NE as astrologer, writer and snooper for her boss at NE was CIA while she answered directly to MI6 and Prime Minister as she sat off Coco Beach a little onion in a patch of potatoes some of which sat off shore and blew up I believe, the Challenger by remote control? Intelligence like bible comes in steps of degrees. Out of curiosity I am going to check out those two who had the stuff they should not have hadbut tell me, why don't they go after Larry Flynt who pretends to put out millions for information while he has the FBI files - in particular, Hoover's old files.he blackmailed so many people but he does not want to mess around with George Bush now and backed downthis guy has been a fruit cake even before he was shotHE CONTRIBUTES TO THE ADL...another front like Flynt for organized crime and they answer to Bnai Brith - a psuedo masonic order who directs in secret may drug operations and murder inc. and the latest all those prostitues operating in Israel??? Maybe they were behind Monica Lewinsky nailing Clinton and maybe little Chandra only Chandra got caught messing with the wrong people? In other words, what are they running in the Congress and in this country - a Government Operated by Mossad Murder Inc., in disguse of ADL.check their track record and see how they honored Meyer Lansky who put hit of JFK, this Moe Dalitz - and in fact I will attach same for this bunch now should be investigatedwonder if they put the JDL on hate list? Day of reckoning is coming - Arabs in America beginning to awaken to the fact that too long, they have been sleeping giants bulled about by likes of a Foxman who should be in prison for taking a bribe, to bribe the President of the Unit4ed States who already had feet of clayfeet of clay, that guy was in drag time. Now one must remember the bible calendar code and the hit on JFK and vendetta 109th Psalm and 110th Psalm in particular - aim for the head - now Meyer Lansky said, don't get the tail Bobby - get the brother, the Head - JFK? Isn't this how Israelis operate or should I say Zionist controlled Israelis some of whom are now resisting the draft to murder the innocents while Arafat still remains unharmed - but he is so senile he needs Sharon's support to keep going. So Meyer Lansky ordered that hit - and it was Lansky who lost a mint in Cuba so you see why they play up Bay of Pigs - something for which JFK took responsibility . why should USA send in troops to save a bastard like Meyer Lansky..and now you know why the Black Nationalists too wanted to come with the heads of the McClellan Committee a Committee who went after Organized Crime and all the time we were led to believe they were Italian? Italians getting mad now for they have seen enough of this garbage - JFK was murdered by this bunch and Oswald's family did have connections, didn't they... So as Lansky said get the sob and find some nut to do itso they got JFK, RFK and MLK playing Moses for when I read of Moses I see black man, and had it not been for George Bush, we would bee seeing Pink Moses - and I don't mean color...twinky pink. Saba Behind the Mask of Respectability: The truth about the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith 3 - Links to Organized Crime For years, the ADL has been linked to Jewish organized crime. The ADL gave Las Vegas Jewish gangster, Moe Dalitz, their Torch of Freedom award
Re: [CTRL] Portland: Anti-Terrorism Task Force Targets Unions
-Caveat Lector- What's this? The AFSCME - I was there when CFR hoodlum Jerry Wurf took over the AFSCME from Arnold Zander and his pinko friends were wooing the Union for which I worked - darn near turned into a riot. A shyster lawyer used to corner me and attempt to woo me into their corner - for the Union Men were my friends and my Boss' friends - but the committed acts of terrorism and one fine Union man like Joe Yablotsky - they burned down his home, killing him, his wife and one son - the younger son escaped death but lives to tell the truth of the matterYablotsky, three journemen in the night while the FBI had a 24 hour watch on house - these men one of whom wore a golden earring murdered Joe and his wife and daughter as they lay sleeping - suddenly they appeared - and the dog did not bark which means the dog somehow got to know the murderers. So Unions in the CFR - Hoffa never sold out, and neither has the son - but this AFSCME, would want to know more about them for it could be they have a spy in their midst.or did the rank and file members get onto this evil element? Remember when Jay Rockefeller tried to lure workers back to the mines in the 70 period? Well the CIA was operating in the mines then - and now we know why - the CIA was also in the Electrical Workers Union at Western Electric but then some of these men had stolen Union Funds it was revealed - and it was their greed that not only destroyed the power of this Union, but their lack of dedication to same. So when I left that Union I decided I hated Unions and no longer wanted to be a part of same.but what I did not realize was the ultimte goal - getting the govenors offices across the land - and setting their men in the name of the CFR in most important posts - it was the beginning of the take over. Any good Union man was gunned down, or his house burnt down - and now many years later I know why when I called my old boss about the bible code (he used to send a bible to the funeral and family of any fallen labor man) - he said check out Ambassador College, check out the old IWW.I said what about the Mafia - and he just smiled - he said it was communism.this great man once worked for John L. Lewis, and was his bodyguard - he was friend to Jock Yablotsky and had run against him at one time - he said they had taken on communism once before, in New York City. I watched while black sanitation workers (garbage men) turned this union in to a dangerous place to work - and behind them, was this CFR bastard Jerry Wurf - the take over, only looks like if AFSCME has joined into this group Hoffa better beware - for he is number one target today and AFSCME if they have link to CFR his life is in great danger if he does not flal in line - for the enemy is within. As usual. Remember too Walter Reuther - this man was murdered - his funeral program which I have quotes from Daniel in the Bible and the old poem about Joe Hill a murdered and martyered Labor Man for only the touch survive while at same time many a hero, was martyered for the cause. As for the Pinkertons? Well the Molly McGuires went to the gallows with Red Roses on their lapels..and it must be remembred, while all the Mollies were Hibernians, like the Masons, not all Hibernians, were Mollies? Maybe the Unions are beginning to clean House and someone else will be on the receiving end .. James Traficant tried to save the Steelworkers - now they will take him to prison - while Marc Rich tried to destroy Steelworkers Union - and Gary Condit - what has this little twerp ever done, for the Unions - imagine he gets more from a Gallo than a Chavez. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] THE BAD NEWS IS THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL! THE WORST POSSIBLE NEWS IS THAT SCIENTISTS ARE CREATING WARMING, STORMS, AND NATURAL DISASTERS!!
-Caveat Lector- This is in the item Kris sent - and is good item; however, it was 1965 Weather Control Program was classified - and during Viet Nam War it was reported on the front page of a newspaper the monsoons had been brought on six months early for war purposes.. Also material I have filed away shows in early 70 period this Morris Udall, Senator laughting about America singing someday How Dry I Am, and this bastard shoudl haave been run out of office. As for this Thompson mentioned in this story, Norman Olson and JJ Johnson appered before his committee and asked this program be investigated and he PROMISED to investigate same - but then John Maynard in Senator Metzenbaums office back in 1986 promised to get the Senator to help me (his father and I were good friends and he was an aide) - but sudden he called and said hey we can't help you and I am sorry.it was then, I found out through a local weatherman who had connections the program was classified in 1965. Problem: How many people have died in this program. Are we going to permit any government to use acts of God now to destroy our homes, farms, and most hard hit - trailer camps which Joshua2 nots as trailer trash..full of little kids being slaughtered. Notice is it Israel now singing How Dry I Am since Bush got in - tell me, did God dump Habakkuk in dry land to see how he likes it? Burning kids at Waco, floods, California in drought and Florida in drought for what - once it was to save Naples and Palm Springs from hurricanes? The hell with Palm Springs and Naples - we must remember the trailer Trash has more vots and evidently George Bush cares more for the poor than these bastards that call themselves Democrats these days. Weather Modification is now Weather War.Russia cannot fund their program any longer, the USA has given them upfor the power in their hands has been deadly. Note the sharks appearing in Florida and a little boy with arm torn off how old - eight years old, a black man lost a leg and other kids bitten.swarms of sharks coming inwatch now for plane crashes maybe and this Bermuda Triangle gaining more notoriety? For something down there is drawing in the sharks? Israel how sad - won't those Palestinians who are used to next to nothing have the last laught when their swimming pools dry up? Think Uncle Sam will give them rain? Maybe Sadaam Hussein could give them waterhe has plenty of water and if they bomb his wells, etc., and oil fields - they will all die of thirst before greed. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Public Indoctrination Moves Into Homes (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Well now is the time to park a Ryder Truck in front of this School Boards meeting grounds with a friendly warning - resign before we vote you out permanently. These creeps, this cess pool, answers to the public but if this is what they want, they got it and do not expect me to be sorry for them. Once I called my son's English Teacher and complained because some of the teachers seemed shall we say lax. This English Teacher said well we learned them the basics - and I hung up on her. Today in the school they are battling a case of a woman who is a teacher under contract age 37 arrested for rape of 12 year old boy, and now more charges by a County Prosecutor..you see in our town, such things are taken seriously. And when an overzealous former cop put cameras in the little girls rest rooms - it made national news and said cameras were moved. You see police think it is okay to do such things; I remember one officer in particular whom I never liked and the City Attorney came into my offie once to say - by the way, they got that guy on a voyerism charge.no surprise to me. So this garbage in this city should be swept up before - imagine, all these problems because in big cities the scores are so low in schools they had to lie to raise the grades in this one school, so the Great Sodomist Clinton, would visit, which he did. Only later a black teacher blew the whistle; the teachers had been cheatingand now I know why this black lawyer I knew who worked for the AG and could not spell, did not know his law, was doing standard form work, got to be Phi Beta Kappa at Moorehouse College? Morons on the move Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Israel may boycott U.N. meeting
Well tell me, do you think the Zionists have lost control over the Monster they had big hand in creating? This tiny little state of Israel finally admits this UN Monster has grown to such a degree that people are finally beginning to take them seriously? What, Israelis are Racist? Why it was the Zionists who turned loose the NAACP in America, a like Don Quioxte the UN responded to their every wish. Now I am waiting for ADL to start screaming racism, homophobia, and all those names they toss at Israelis now? What we in - a name calling contest - hey Joshua2 could win that one easy... Me, I hope the US has the guts the Israelis have for such a little David to take on big Goliath UN - seems like unfair fight. Go get them Israel for once, I am in your corner - and I imagine you would have the Sinn Fein and IRA fighting along beside you if need be. Now who all is on war criminal list now - Henry Kissinger is wanted, Bill Clinton, Madeline Albright, Milo - hey, what about all those Rhodes people loating around - take good look at South Africa for that Mugabee is no slouch either but then he is murdering white Chrisian Farmers and it is open season on Christians Saba Boycott UN - no, just say hell no we won't go for this bunch has no authority in USA or great State of Israel - and it is run by Zulu Nations? Israel may boycott U.N. meeting 'Anti-Israel' language cited in resolutions on racism A billboard advertising the World Conference Against Racism is situated on the freeway from the airport into the city of Durban, Monday JERUSALEM, Aug 27 Israel said on Monday it would not send a delegation to a United Nations conference on racism unless language singling out the Jewish state for racism and other ills was removed from its resolutions. At this stage we cannot go to Durban. That is our inclination, Israel's deputy foreign minister, Michael Melchior, told foreign reporters, referring to the World Conference Against Racism due to open in South Africa on August 31. Advertisement THE UNITED STATES has backed Israel in demanding anti-Israel language be toned down and threatened to boycott the conference if the Jewish state is singled out. Middle East politics have threatened to derail the gathering of thousands of official delegates and activists from more than 160 countries devoted to worldwide problems of racial discrimination, xenophobia and other forms of intolerance. In the thick of an 11-month-old Palestinian uprising against decades of Israeli occupation, Arab states and their supporters have called for language in the conference's draft resolution which equates Zionist practices with racism and describes Israeli policies against the Palestinians as racist. Melchior noted that the draft resolution a consensus-based document debated earlier this year in Geneva makes mention of no other country except Israel, regardless of human rights and other violations elsewhere. Leading the Durban agenda are issues such as violence against women, human trafficking and the rights of migrant workers, indigenous peoples and ethnic minorities. It is a legitimate thing to criticise the state of Israel, the government of Israel, he said. It is not legitimate...when the world society takes one country and singles this one country out. Durban is an attempt to upgrade hatred against the Jews. Melchior said officials from Europe, Africa and India have expressed dismay over what he called an attempt to kidnap the conference. As it is, the conference would render the global fight against the many-faceted subject of racism a farce, he said. Israeli policies in the West Bank and Gaza Strip could rightfully be criticised and discussed in a conference on the Middle East conflict or similar forums, Melchior added. The U.N. General Assembly equated Zionism the modern movement promoting the return of Jews to the biblical land of Israel with racism in resolutions adopted annually from 1975 to 1991. They were dropped after the landmark 1991 Madrid Middle East peace conference. © 2001 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. [Hey Joshua2 - who would ever thing that Israel was a racist, fascist pig state?] Gunbattles erupt after Israeli pullout Iraq maintains it downed U.S. drone Israel may boycott U.N. meeting News about Turkey via ntvmsnbc.com MSNBC Cover Page Complete coverage MSNBC VIEWERS' TOP 10 Would you recommend this story to other viewers? not at all 1- 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 highly MSNBC is optimized for Microsoft Internet Explorer Windows Media Player MSNBC Terms, Conditions and Privacy © 2001 Cover | News | Business | Sports | Local News | Health | Technology | Living Travel TV News | Opinions | Weather
[CTRL] Fwd: Second Amendment Stuff - Anti-Gun Organizations
Note the names on this list - the one isn't that the 22 year old who just got killed in a plane off Nassau in Bahamas - a friend of mine said plane was loaded with something other than just musical instruments - and yet is quite about it. Seems like they were leaving with a lot more baggage ...her name appears all throughout web as first on star list with known drug users - note Whitney Houston - where they gettting the drugs? Saba Organizations and Supporters of Anti-Gun Policies The following organizations have lent monetary, grassroots or some other type of direct support to anti-gun organizations. In many instances, these organizations lent their name in support of specific campaigns to pass anti-gun legislation such as the March 1995 HCI Campaign to Protect Sane Gun Laws. Many of these organizations were listed as Campaign Partners, for having pledged to fight any efforts to repeal the Brady Act and the Clinton assault weapons ban. All have officially endorsed anti-gun positions. 20/20 Vision AFL-CIO American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry American Academy of Child Adolescent Psychiatry American Academy of Pediatrics American Academy of Ambulatory Care Nursing American Academy of Pediatrics American Alliance for Rights and Responsibilities American Association of Retired Persons American Association of School Administrators American Association for the Surgery of Trauma American Association for World Health American Association of Neurological Surgeons American Association of Family and Consumer Sciences American Bar Association American Civil Liberties Union American Counseling Association American Ethical Union American Federation of Teachers American Firearms Association American Jewish Committee American Jewish Congress American Medical Association American Medical Women's Association American Medical Student Association American Nurses Association American Psychological Association American Public Health Association American Trauma Society Americans for Democratic Action Anti-Defamation League Association of American Medical Colleges B'nai B'rith Black Mental Health Alliance Central Conference of American Rabbis Children s Defense Fund Church of the Brethren Coalition for Peace Action Coalition to Stop Gun Violence College Democrats of America Committee for the Study of Handgun Misuse World Peace Common Cause Congress of National Black Churches, Inc. Congress of Neurological Surgeons Consumer Federation of America Council of Chief State School Officers Council of the Great City Schools Dehere Foundation Disarm Educational Fund Environmental Action Foundation Episcopal Church, USA Episcopal Church-Washington Office Florence and John Shumann Foundation Friends Committee on National Legislation General Federation of Women's Clubs George Gund FundAmbulatory Pediatric Association Gray Panthers H.M. Strong Foundation Hadassah Harris Foundation Hechinger Foundation Int'l Association of Educators for World Peace Int'l Ladies' Garment Workers' Union Interfaith Neighbors Jewish Labor Committee Joyce Foundation Lauder Foundation Lawrence Foundation League of Women Voters of the United States* Lutheran Office for Governmental Affairs, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Manhattan Project II Mennonite Central Committee-Washington Office National Assembly of National Voluntary Health Social Welfare Organizations National Association of School Psychologists National Association of Children's Hospitals and Related Institutions National Association of Chain Drug Stores National Association for the Advancement of Colored People National Association of Police Organizations National Association of Social Workers National Association of Pediatric Nurse Associates Practitioners National Association of School Safety and Law Enforcement Officers National Association of Elementary School Principals* National Association of Public Hospitals National Association of Secondary School Principals National Association of Counties* National Association of Community Health Centers National Black Nurses' Association National Center to Rehabilitate Violent Youth National Coalition Against Domestic Violence National Commission for Economic Conversion Disarmament National Council of the Churches of Christ in the USA National Council of Jewish Women National Council on Family Relations National Council of La Raza National Council of Negro Women National Education Association* National League of Cities National Network for Youth National Organization for Women National Organization on Disability National Parent, Teachers Association* National Parks and Conservation Association National Peace Foundation National People's Action National Political Congress of Black Women National Safe Kids Campaign National SAFE KIDS Campaign National Spinal Cord Injury Association National Urban League, Inc. National Urban Coalition NETWORK: A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby Ortenberg Foundation Peace Action
[CTRL] Fwd: Science News Online, Ivars Peterson's MathTrek (5/2/98): Cracking a Medieval Code
Enjoyed he item on the unbroken ciphers - but here is my favorite of all times.now books by Trithemius are not well read today, I presume; however, Sybil Leek believed this communication code I had run across keyed to a calendar - was somehow devised by Trithemius. Note the 7 Men in Spandau - the Nazis - without a doubt used his code. So there are flower codes, why not codes for herbs - this one partcular bible I have entitled SS Teachers Edition - gift to an ancestor who was one of the revisors of the King James Bible in late 1800 period - this book has so much information in it, it is unbelievable and was made specially for those who attended the Clarendon Press -published by Oxford Univeristy Press. So every littke flower and every little movement has a meaning all its own? Think they wrote a song about that once.someone played it for me once at an affair where let us say, they were waiting for me? Russians took the watchword code from the Baron for they knew the calendar was coded so who however sent the Baron the code and for what purpose? Had to be Yankee Doodle - for it was intercepted by the Russian Guard and no doubt given to the Baron, like one gives a Gideon Bible to - well never mind with that, unless it has the special mark of a very rare edition. Codes must be simple for many people (say June and Joshua - take note what Trithemius says for his words were not made for anybody to understandcasting pearls before swine?) So verey interesting publication; and inasmuch as our CIA and the English of course used a bible code - oh so secret - this code I believe inasmuch as it was given to the Baron in prison - was meant for member of the Royal Society, who would be able to respond in maybe a bird code in communicatins for I think a break was being staged and the Russian got wise to it. So much for ancient codes..even Christ spoke in parables for surely someone secret order such as an another ADL would would turn him in to the finky fuzz..hey Joshua - got two tens for a five? Saba http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc98/5_2_98/mathland.htm
Re: [CTRL] Gay Propaganda in Kids' Book (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Wel a leopard is it does not change his spots does he..however, subliminal messaage lost when everybody knows its purpose and the fact, it is there. Have you watched any little kids shows lately with all the advertising and hyped up music - and this black crap this one scene - a little white boy, seemed somewhat paraplegic - and this little black girl hugging and slobbering over him - what a show, but how could the kid defend himself. Well maybe when Paula Poundstone case comes up - we will see how this lesbian mother who just cannot control herself with her adopted children and/or foster children in her care when she is drinking - we shall see why kids are beginning to fight back? Its about time for if the parents will not fight for them who will? Someone wants to be homosexual fine - but I think the Saudi's have the right idea for now sodomy on children in America is becoming a way of life - but Saudis have right idea - they just heap a building on them. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: BIBLE-BANGING CONGRESSMAN UNDER PROBE FOR TAX, ETHICS VIOLATIONS: MOB NAMES SURFACE AGAIN
Note in this item the name JJ Cafaro is not mentioned once but he has turned canary and will sing for the Feds with hope he will keep out of prison. Twice in my entire life, have I heard the name Klingle Park - once the maybe yet to be deciphered message on Chandra Levy's lap top computer, and the second time - JJ Cafaro's daughter went to the school where he donated $500,000 for a gynmnasium - they used Klingle Park Mansion for parking lot? Now Cafaro gives big bucks to democrats for he does not want to go to jail for bribery..he attended the Hollywood Barbara Streisand affair but he also gave some money to Republicans - so he will sing, to try to keep out of jail and will try to send Traficant to slammer?\ These people are sleaze - nice story here on Traficant but that Klingle Park connection is somewhat puzzling - lots of construction work going on. Jim Traficant knows where a lot of bodies are buried no doubt, but then so does JJ Cafaro who is on the contributors list for Democrats in Ohio - who is on same list as Wexner, as one of the big time jewish contributors. Wexner's stock falling again - and his ships in the night may be faltering. Saba [from American Atheist News, 24 February] BIBLE-BANGING CONGRESSMAN UNDER PROBE FOR TAX, ETHICS VIOLATIONS: MOB NAMES SURFACE AGAIN Check out the voting record of Rep. James Traficant (D-Ohio) on most First Amendment issues, and you'll see that the colorful and combative congressman usually reflects the right side. Traficant is famous for his one-minute beam me up special order speeches which he delivers at the opening of House business, where he blasts scientists who question the existence of God, criticizes the separation of church and state, and calls for prayer and display of the Ten Commandments in public schools. Traficant is also quick to criticize what he says is a breakdown in public morality. A Congress that allows God to be banned from our schools while our schools can teach about cults, Hitler, and even devil worship is wrong, out of touch, and needs some common sense, Traficant thundered in an April 27, 1999 special order speech. Criticizing a federal court ruling that overturned a Florida program which allowed clergy to come into the public schools to provide counseling, Traficant opined on May 13, 1999: These book-smart, street-stupid judges better look in the mirror of a troubled America, because it is clear, students can be counseled by convicts in our schools, not clergy. Students can read about devil worship, not God. Students can burn a flag at a school, but cannot say a prayer. Beam me up! It is time to amend the Constitution of this country and not only bring God back into the schools, but bring God back into our Nation. When a 1998 survey indicated that only about 40% of scientists believed in a deity, Traficant again took the floor of Congress to present his informed view: Mr. Speaker, I have one question for these wise guys to constipate over: How can some thing (sic) come from no thing (sic)? And while they digest that, Mr. Speaker, let me tell it like it is. Put these super-cerebral master debaters in some fox hole with bombs bursting all around them, and I guarantee they will not be praying to Frankenstein. Beam me up here. My colleagues, all the education in the world is worthless without God and a little bit of common sense... Even more bizarre was Traficant's call for a chastity chip on the internet. In Feb, 1998 Traficant delivered a floor speech and cited the case of a woman who claimed that she had become pregnant due to e-mail. That's right -- pregnant! the congressman proclaimed, warning of the risks of immaculate reception. Now, this same representative who has enthusiastically embraced legislation like the Religious Freedom Amendment (school prayer) and the Ten Commandments Defense Act finds himself in a federal probe into his use of a free car provided by a Youngstown, Ohio-area businessman, the gift of another luxury car from a local real estate developer, and other possible improprieties. In addition, an AANEWS investigation shows that Traficant's name has surfaced in connection with donations from the wife of a known organized crime figure, who was convicted for his role in a Mahoning County gambling ring. Further testimony in that case is now being heard in a Cleveland courtroom where three reputed mobsters are being tried. Charges of involvement between the outspoken congressman and organized crime surfaced in 1983 when Traficant was Mahoning County Sheriff, and appeared as a defendant in a federal trial accused of taking $163,000 in bribes during his 1980 campaign for the post. Those accused of delivering the bag money were mob figures who reportedly wanted to protect area gambling operations. Traficant, without benefit of legal training, defended himself with a combative style that was to characterize his future
Re: [CTRL] Are Farts Sterile?
-Caveat Lector- My dear Edward: That was the most disgusting story I have ever read in my life. Now, to be perfectly scientific about the matter - cows, not enough they are being slaughtered like the Palestinians or the victims of Zionist Jack the Ripper - back in 1987 it was reported (and I kept the picture of this beautiful gentle cow, with this woman who looked like tamed down version of Janet Reno) - anyway this beautiful cow and her friends were being accused of causing the Green House problem..Methane Gas - and cows were doing it for how many - well Job had Cattle which means is History of the World.the cows and sheep and cattle of the world and the likes of Joshua2 - these are your enemies of the people responsible for Green House Theory. Frankly, SAVE THE COWS - and as for Joshua2 - it is every asshole for himselv. Respectfully submitted, SabaXXII Who Not Only Survived the Floods but the Cows and Joshua2.. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Oil Company Histories
What I remember in the sixty period was a manager of Standard Oil coming into the Mayor's Office demanding we do something about the price wars - for we had 4 stations in town, on one corner and the gas war was on and the prices went down, down and down. Now this idiot thought I should take up the crusade but what did I know about oit - this was a job for Superman? Well maybe Mighty Mouse, but not me for they did not pay me enough to devote my life to oil - but I did however invite a Saudi Arabian Prince to our town and he accepted but after they murdered his father - Sorry Charlie, no drag re oil prices.and that guy was loaded. So - every jew in town came to my office to stop the dinner - Rockefeller had stopped his dinner and we would be destroyed politcally, and our Saudi Arabian Flags sent by State Department would be torn down. So in the end - I believe the American people have been the ones screwed by our so called friends...for you see, Sadaam Hussein offered us cheap oil, he wanted to be friends. Now Marc Rich - this man who gets away with murder, and do not think he does not - during Iranian crisis bought oil contrary to our law from Iran at $6.00 a barrel and sold from $29.00 up to 40.00 plus. It is the like of a Marc Rich with which we have to be concernedthis man is evil, he is mafia thug, and his floosie wife is nothing but courtesan who tried to get next to Clinton with the ADL - but then, Rich did get his pardon right? But hey, that Italian mob what is left, all in slammer? The plot thickens .. for I did not know Zapata oil had deal with Kuwait Kings for I thought they had deal for off shore drilling like say prior to Nixon peace feelers with Cina - oil companies were drilling off shore then, what companies I do not remember. So Remember this lovely American woman in Kuwait - on TV, while Sadaam Hussein's army was looting stores, etc., kind of like the blacks did in Cincinnati recently - this woman on TV. said - They even stole my TV and VCR - when are you Americans coming over here and do something about this. Well, we could have stopped a war and saved the lives of a lot of Iraqi Children, gotten cheap oil - had we only sent that old bitch a new TV and VCR. Ugly Americans - note Bilderbergers and the Hotel Trade - and remember Meyer Lansky in Cuba, all those hotels and motels and gambling casinos run by the mob and today if Lansky were alive he would be reaping in billions but Fidel, took care of that and the mob lost a mint and JFK lost his life. Joke on TV last night - showed a priest telling a story about Jesus and the money changers - my mother always said Jesus did two wrong things - he kicked the gamblers out of the temple - but this guy said as Jesus was kicking out the money changers, he winked and smiled and said to the one hey, got two tens for a five? Now Jesus knew the difference between a Jew and a Zionist way back then - for everywhere you go you find gambling, prostitution, drugs - guess who is always in the background holding the bag.. Viva Zapata - if not Bush, who??? He is the best we have right now...back in the early 1950 period, Dwight David Eisenhower once reminded the King of Saudi Arabia - hey, watch your step for the day will come when we will not need all that oiland I think the day, is fast approaching. California got a good example of energy crunch recently but have learned nothign. The Old Line were at least honest with public it was all out to see - energy was cheap, but since Marc Rich - see what will happen if the Zionists get that oil? See what the American People have been taught to hate the Giants who once ran this country - they were not perfect, but you have this trash Marc Rich and Denise Rich element now bribing US Presidentsso add this floosie to list of questionable people who liked to get next to the Boss.so as was said - Hey Meet the New Boss? No way though, he is like the Old Boss - at least he does not engage in acts of sodomy with prostitutes under contract with Mafia and the likes of a Larry Flynt - and who else got paid by Rich - why your ADL - who has put Jesus Christ on their Hit Hate List. Hey Foxman, got two tens for a five? And if the lard ass is watching that goes for you too - so cry havoc and turn loose the dogs of war but do you think anybody will go this time - no they are hiring mercenaries to do the dirty work but any American involved in foreign wars lose their citizenship do they not? Fighting for another country for we are not running a French Foreign Legion - yet. Saba http://www.virginia.edu/igpr/apagoilhistory.html
Re: [CTRL] Ignoring apartheid
-Caveat Lector- I have a book entitled EINSTEINS THEORY OF RELATIVITY MADE SIMPLE (for simple folk like Joshua2)..now believe it or not it does make it simple, but I often wondered what is meant by, a Day With Christ is as a Thousand Years...now, if this is true and Christ ascended (hopefully he went up but is there really a difference) does that mean we have another 1,000 years to go? So I note in acts - and my darn bible code again, and you know my old friend Gordon Novel is alleged to have burgled the Schlumberger Munitions Dump (could not have happened to a nicer family) - and this was before I knew Gordon..however, my bible code date of this next big robbery in Columbus at the General Depot, Department of Defense...key watchwords that day from Acts and it said space of time, supplies and supplies and this was a supply depot and think Gordon was around about that time. Then that was about the time this Columbus Cop and he was also in the employ of the Jewish Mafia, had a waitredd down me with a coke made in hell...later the waitress was murdered, but I did not do it...I was the victim. Anyway - his name was James Daughtery and Richard Corova who had taken over the old tavernrestaure where we used to meet - told me he was one bad cop.. he then showed me how a beer could by loaded with anything much to my shock. Only I had drunk a coke that day and it was high noon and I had gone to dinner and was alone with exception of my 5 year oldthis crooked slime did not know she was in center room with me (where our round table was with beautiful turquois leaded glass windows that I helped pick out). So.thisi munitions dump, and Einstein and the whole works - even from those that sow clouds shall reap whirlwinds (our weather program) all in coded into this beautiful bible code only two factins using it of which I am primarily interested.one for good, one for evil and the evils got it. So such is life, in this small town which has been so dead since I got sidetracked its time to raise some more hell. Is J Edgar really dead? Code Name Old Man? Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Are Farts Sterile?
-Caveat Lector- Do you suppose this is why the Brits slaughtered all the cattle - for that and not to create meat shortage to run Ronald McDonald out of the world? You are right - they would blame the Arabs.One must remember though the country of Omar Kayyaim - beautiful palaces, lots of water - beautiful gardens, and no Zionists to foul up the place. I am for arming the Arabs with a herd of Elehants - imagine running 10,000 Elephants through Zion Country? He bet that would make a CNN Special.Connie Chung Reports on Elehant Attack on Israeli Army..Ariel Sharon Flees to Desert for breath of fresh air with 10,000 elephants all loaded for bear and so on. Might get a pulitizer with that one. Where can one find 10,000 elephants .Charge to VISA. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] IMF/WB -- DC - continued...(2)
-Caveat Lector- Now is the time for the Great Farrakhan to hold his MIllion Man March and then we will send in this Million Moms Against Gun Control..that plus what is already on hand - I figure even if they get the first shot, we get the next 4 million? Maybe we should all meet at Gettysburg? Come in disguise, dressed like the butcher Abraham Lincoln? All you shorties can come dressed like Charlie Chaplin or Adolph Hitler - what is the difference? Now I figure we can have a picnic in the park, bring what do they call this Pot Luck and bring your own booze. Dancing for all - plenty of green green gas from home and man what a party. Come to think of it, my old banker used to ride a motorcycle and smoke a few joints on his own time..he died young, but for a banker his heart was in the right place. In his pocket book. So See you There ...and remember, let them get the first shot and then it is all self defense. Leave the kids home.. Anyone got a panzer tank? If not - maybe we could hire Janet Reno ?? Anon. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] HENRY KISSINGER WAS EXCOMMUNICAED AND HERE IS HIS NAZICONNECTION
-Caveat Lector- From what I was told Joshua2 - not much is known of Japeth and he did not hang from a tree because before Japeth, there was thee? How you doing asshole? My ancestor did not hang by tail like monkey - maybe yours, not mine. Besides Ephraim and Dan were Irish -asshole. And wait till Gog get done with you. O'Saba Descenden of a Princess who had ancestor who was one of three wisemen . A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Germany and the Soviet Union form a Nonaggression Pact: 1939
Germany and the Soviet Union form a Nonaggression Pact 1939 The smell of it was in the air, of an imminent German attack on Poland. It was because of this that Chamberlain and Halifax decided not to delay any type of action against Germany. On March 31st 1939, Chamberlain announced in a crowded House of Commons that if Poland was in any type of a threat of invasion, Britain and France would come to their aid. An Anglo-Polish treaty of Alliance was under preparation and Britain also included Rumania, Greece and Turkey under their protection. Though angered and surprised, Hitler was not deterred by this treaty. He commanded his generals to ready their troops and prepare for an attack no later than September 1st. Hitler's aim was to start a war with sudden, heavy blows and gaining rapid successes. (Bullock-'91) Hitler now depended on the Triple Alliance of Germany, Japan and Italy to be against Britain, America and Soviet Union. But Japan was not in favor of this Alliance because it was not ready for any confrontation from American and the British Navy. Since Japan was reluctant to be in the Alliance, Hitler looked to Mussolini in Italy. On May 22nd 1939, Hitler and Mussolini signed the Pact of Steel in Berlin which bound each country to come to the others aid immediately. (Bullock '91) Hitler was convinced that the effect of the treaty would be to isolate Poland by weakening the British and French resolve to come to her aid. (Bullock '91) Now, the only country left standing without a commitment was the Soviet Union. In the summer of 1939 the focus of European diplomatic activity became Moscow; with the British and French competing with the Germans for Stalin's favor. (Bullock '91) If the Soviet Union could also remain neutral in such a war between Germany and the Western Powers, this would at least enable Stalin to buy time and possibly secure territorial and strategic advantages in Eastern Europe as part of his price. (Bullock '91) The Non- Aggression Pact of 1939 was signed in August with a secret agenda between Stalin and Hitler. In the public's eye, it was a shock to see two old enemies shake hands but the secret agenda consisted of Eastern Europe. Soviet Union would have the Baltic states of Eastern Europe as long as she remained true to the Pact whereas Germany would have Western Europe. Now a war was inevitable with Russia in a neutral corner as it seen from a public's point of view. One month later, the Germans invade Poland and Russia takes her piece: the Baltic states. Bibliography. Alan Bullock. Hitler and Stalin: Parallel Lives (1991) pg. 607-620. Helene Carrere. Stalin, Order of Terror (1981) pg. 34-53. Edited by: Tariq Farooqui, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Researched by: Anthony J. Gapastione, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Written by: Yedlin Segura, [EMAIL PROTECTED] May 2, 1997 Back to Interwar Years Chronology North Park University History Department WebChron Text copyright 1996-9 by David W. Koeller. [EMAIL PROTECTED] All rights reserved. http://campus.northpark.edu/history/WebChron/World/HitlerStalin.html
[CTRL] Fwd: Jewish Communists: The Documentary Record
concentration camp for Germans in Poland. Stalin deliberately put Jews in charge of such camps. Morel tortured and murdered thousands of Germans, sometimes with his bare hands (cf. The Wrath of Solomon, Village Voice, March 30, 1993 and John Sack, An Eye for an Eye). Morel is comfortably esconsed in Tel Aviv. German survivors of Morel's camp have demanded he be tried as a war criminal, but for the Establishment media and the phony, partisan, human rights groups, bringing Morel to justice is simply a non-issue. After all, he murdered helpless Germans, so what's the problem? Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and Stalin, son of Julius. The Communist Party was also the most Jewish party in America. At least nineteen percent of the Young Communist League were Jews and never less than forty percent of its leadership. (Source: Pakn Treger: From Yiddish Roots to the Frontiers of Jewish Culture, Fall 1997, p. 18). Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of German Communist Stasi Secret Police. Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David Dubinsky: Stalin's ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin. Mark Zborowski: ...considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to have been the most fearsome...(Soviet) spy of all time (Stephen Schwartz, Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris. Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937. In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski and Monsieur Etienne by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec. 1992). From 1936-1939, when Stalin's International Brigade forces were dispatched to Spain to fight the Catholics, Jewish Communists comprised the largest faction of his troops, More than 40,000 volunteers fought in the International Brigade...A huge number of the volunteers were Jews: between 7,000 and 10,000 of the Internationals as a whole, more than one-third of the Americans. Jewish Communist Milton Wolff was the last commander of the American contingent. Rabbi Hyman Katz joined in order to fight Spanish Christians. (cf. Jeffrey Sharlet, Troublemakers, Pakn Treger, Fall, 1997, pp. 16, 18 and 24). The Communists slaughtered 6,549 Spanish priests, 283 helpless nuns and 13 bishops. In Ciudad Real in the center of Spain, the bishop and every single priest of the diocese were murdered; not one escaped. --Dr. Warren H. Carroll, 70 Years of the Communist Revolution, pp. 184-185, 188-189. (Also cf. Justo Perez de Urbel, Catholic Martyrs of the Spanish Civil War [Kansas City, Missouri: The Angelus Press, 1993). Stalin's propaganda agent in Spain was New Yorker Leon Rosenthal. On Oct. 16, 1948, 50,000 Jewish communists turned out in Moscow's Red Square to welcome the first Israeli delegation to Moscow. Stalin supported Zionism's 1947 Palestine partition plan, gave crucial recognition to the newly-created state of Israel and voted for Israel's admission to the United Nations. In 1951 communist and Marxist parties had twenty-three seats in the Israeli Knesset. The kibbutz system was the most powerful movement in the country and the most powerful kibbutz leaders were nearly all Marxists. The biggest Israeli holiday was May Day, celebrated with rallies, marches, red banners and red songs. (Saba Note; J Edar Hoover died on May Day and I along with a few others believe t was murder..he knew the Mafia for what it was - Communist/Zionism) As recently as 1987 the Israelis were providing the KGB with American intelligence secrets (cf. UPI dispatch by Richard Sale, Dec. 13, 1987 and The City Paper [Washington, DC], Jan. 15, 1988). Jonathan Jay Pollard was part of one such spy ring. British traitor and Communist spy Kim Philby was assisted in obtaining safe haven in the Soviet Union by the Israeli Mossad (cf. Sunday Telegraph [England], April 16, 1989). This was most appropriate since Philby's KGB handler in Moscow was also Jewish. Romania's communist regime received favorable trade deals from the U.S. for years due to Israeli pressure on Congress in its behalf (N.Y. Times
Re: [CTRL] ESR: The death of the liberal propaganda machine
-Caveat Lector- As for Clinton - And now he belongs to the Tabloids What a guy, what a legacy - but then, that which was crooked could not be made straight.. O'Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DOE Mulls Recycling Radioactive Metals
-Caveat Lector- In Columbus, Ohio there was once a bazaar, called International Bazaar with treasures from over the world - purchased many hand carved temple dogs, beautiful wooden candlestics 2 feet tall hand carved, , etc., and one Indonesian Mask but items from all over the world. I bought some gifts from this store including cloisenie (spelling?) earrings - and then suddenly, and this was in the late 70 period it was reported in the newspapers that this jewelry contained radio active material - forget now where they were made, but were Asian though cloisenie the real stuff, is French. So this has been going on for years..if one took a geiger counter in one of these stores it would hit the roof. And then came the Radon Scare where the public was suckered into buying radon kits at a cheap price, but then you had to take to a lab somewhere and spend more money for analysis...radon from what I remember occurs naturally in soil where you find uranium.so is someone still dumping radio active material in creeks, etc., as Waste Management once did this outfit owned by murder inc...as RFK said, from the garbage there blooms a rose - a quote by a Mafia teacher to Mafia children who wrote in cabbalistic symbols on blackboards.Waste Management got caught dumping toxic waste etc., when they were being paid, to safely dispose of same. Strange they would run this story as though it is something new? What is the motivation here? In particular when back in 1930 it was known that saccarine the sweetner was a carcinogen but then you see, it was used by those who could not use sugar..long list of carcinogens known for ages. So why sudden worry about radio active material now? And from where does it come primarily now - someone doing a little underground testing? Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NYP: OH, BROTHER, WHAT HICKS!
-Caveat Lector- So as this one true blue patriot said - Beg-a-thons maybe comiong up for Condit, Tripp and what about that guy Hilliary's brother threatening if he had a gun he would have killed this floosie who happened to be considered the prize of someone else? Face it AMERICA - this is the most unwanted trash in American when it comes to the Clintons - and Tripp, well she got something she always dreamed of having - a prettier face - for one would think Hugh Heffner got ahold of her but do not believe he offered to make her Playgirl of the Month, nor did even the Puke Pervert Larry Flynt offer to put her in his Hustlers. For what do the above all have in common - why they are Hustlers, sans morals, sans discretion, and getting old and rather over worn - for as they say Open the Flood Gates and bring on the Order of the Broom - for the Plantagenets are still alive? We need a clean sweep in Congress if they do not do something to remove this man Condit. Censor, well he stands at the well (is this the Well of the Oath mentioned in the bible symbolically) and they all cast stones at him - ah yes but there is a little matter of he who has not sinned (to any great degree that is) let him cast the first stone. Is that Congress so corrupt not one stone will be cast?What is that old line though - He who troubles his own House will Inherit the Wind? Pf. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: originsOfCiaMindCtrl.txt
So my old MI6 friend Sybil Leek with whom I worked for over 12 years according to this item was in on the MKUltra stuff; so this might explain the hanky panky at the House of the Sun in Florida where I had become a target and that plus a family member CIA/Joint Chief who did about everything a man could do from missiles, to Thor Chief to Red Stone Arsenal/ Noted this item was written in September of 1998 several months before my son bought me a Web TV for Christmas - and who can have more fun at her kitchen table or sitting in her living area, with a web tvif only I had had this when I went after J. Edgar - I would probably have caused near panic for the portion of my FBI file I have been permitted to see, they had censored my own letters? Nicky once had sent me the Leek connection to MKUltra - she never told me she was into it, but sure hinted at it when those witches and psychics met at the House of the Sun - and oh so witches are the loveliest of people. So this stuff on witchcraft and Henry Potter - take it from me, this stuff well put it this way, this witich named Sybil Leek was trained by the master Ian Flemming and when she died on October 26 - in her astrology column she gave me for lucky numbers, State Lottery number - and it came in, after her death - she once gave me stock to buy (cheapie stuff) that trippled in less than 2 or 3 weeks and Merrill Lynch Pierce Fennder and Smythe (was Beane then I think) a Mr. Favor called and said - okay, where did you get that tip - and I said would you believe, from a real witch, who was trained by Ian Felmming, and Meyer Lansky's top Lt. gave it to her, and said buy - for it was backed by Equitable. So Witches bet could start a run on a bank if they had to like J P Morgan;s old astrologers - but my favorite witch Sybil Leek, was the only person other than the MI6 Colonel Ed Shannon (had served on tour with UN in India and somehow landed in my office???) but the Colonel too, understood my bible calendar and Sybil claimed this Ogham code yet to be deciphered was somehow connected. It was then I took another look at the title of my manuscript which she was working on at the time of her death (we got to keep the money paid up front but the publisher said no go with this for Mafia had bought out 5 major ublishing houses) - so - the title of my manuscript was THE VALLEY OF HAMON GOGwhile at the time I did not understand the full meaning of this in 1968I do now.especially when yo have the Zionists claiming they own the pyramids? So much for witches - and brother in laws who were CIA and did not tell you - for ESP experiments in satellites, for psychics at a Mafia half way house in Florida (later bought by Wendy King Dave Thomas for 3 million) - for at the House of the Son or Sun - and Apollo was born on Isle of Delo - for the House of the Sun was a meeting place for the psychics and when Elvis Presley said some sent and some received - well I received and so did Elvis..and the real psychics with the more powerfuly minds who experimented and dallied in esp-ionage is some instances - well witches do make wonderful friends. Have hundreds of letters from Sybil but thie one about Mark Lane - and Jonestown, was when she really understand what she called the evil connotations of the bible calendar and I do not mean that stupic numerical thing and crap thie former Washington Post reporter wrote...in cahoots with Israeli - this is the real thing used by those who control the Master Plan for Murder Keyed to Astrology and the Testaments and guess who is behind it all? Put it all together, and it doesn ot spell Mother - but Zionist Communists Nazis who still linger in the wings who were ready for grand extrance in 2001 if Office of the President - Gore can thank his luckey star he was not elected or it would have been the Late Al Gore - and many songs of lamentations would be written if anybody could sing them, with a straight face. Saba' From: Mark A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SNET: [Fwd: Origins of CIA Mind Control Technology] Date: 24 Jun 1998 23:26:51 -0400 To: David Rydel [EMAIL PROTECTED] - SNETNEWS Mailing List Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mail.msen.com (conch.msen.com [148.59.19.5]) by centurion.flash.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23581; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:57:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by mail.msen.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA11911 for prj-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 22:52:00 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Lloyd Miller, A-albionic Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Lloyd Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: New Paradigms Discussion Group [EMAIL PROTECTED], Agendas Mailing List Subject: [prj] Origins of CIA Mind Control Technology Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 22:50:01 -0400 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk -Original Message- From: alex constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 5:13 PM Subject
[CTRL] HENRY KISSINGER WAS EXCOMMUNICAED AND HERE IS HIS NAZI CONNECTION
Now Kissinger was a KGB Agent, Code Name Bor - was alleged to be Counter Intelligence in WWII - now see here, this man was excommunicated and now I had never heard this story for it most certainly is nothing of which to be proud. Might add this jewish Mafia Doctor involved in all the murder in our area was kicked out of his synagogue and his little friend used to tell me they were sending the Brown Shirts to get me and at the time, I didn't even know who the hell they were. Henry Kissinger ah so - has Three Faces...KGB and what else - Mossad - but I can see this - America wanted to get the missiles into the right hands..von Braun took us to the moon, he could have gone to the KGB Communists - he had once said he wanted to go to the moon more than win the war, and he did make a choice. Henry Kissinger - and this was not his real name - I forget what his real name was - Avraham ben something.. Masters of Deceit? Kissinger was a Nazi and a Communist - it is as simple as that - he double Eagle? But this man, has three faces - will the real Dr. Kissinger please stand up? Also Hugh Hefner is a Zionistbut then Larry Flynt was your typical front man for Mafia - and born again Christian for that bunch of thieves, like Jimmy Swaggart really believe they are Christians - and do not forget Billy Graham once took $25,000 from Mickey Cohen, the Jewish Mobster to save his soul - and got caught. When it comes to drugs and pornography - well, one can draw own conclusions as to why our children are being destroyed and exposed to filth and garbage and sodomy committed by Clinton and Barney Frank is suddenly overlooked as something natural? interesting item here - note, the Rockefeller family was not Jewish; and Japeth, is mentioned a long forgotten biblical figure - my family tree descends from this man Japeth, whoever he was - a son of Noah? Gues Gomer and Gog were his kin. This item I reproduce but for easier reading - well pull up under subject matter. http://www.tetrahedron.org/news/jewish_hate.html
[CTRL] Fwd: Jewish Hate and the Global Conspiracy
Forgot to reproduce message: Welcome Home PageNewsArticlesSpeaking ScheduleEmail ListLinks Online StoreContact UsAbout Dr. HorowitzMission Statement Recent News Wildfires Likely Linked to Energy Industry Plot Horowitz Publishes Death In The Air Exposé Compelling National Security Documents Target Black Groups Bible Code Discovery Proves Beast Identity and Global Conspiracy Jewish Hate and the Global Conspiracy The following letter to the editor was sent by Dr. Horowitz to Mr. Clay Douglas, Editor and Publisher of The Free American regarding his April 2001 feature entitled, Jews: Do They Really Run the World? Is it Hate to Ask that Question? Clay Douglas, Editor/Publisher The Free American US Hwy. 380, Box 2943 Bingham, New Mexico 87832 Dear Editor: I am writing to express my deepest, heart-felt, sadness regarding your April 2001 feature entitled, Jews: Do They Really Run the World? Is it Hate to Ask that Question? As someone who has contributed to, and financially supported, your work and magazine for years, I am now suddenly confronted by the use of The Free American to promote hatred against the Jewish people, not just the Jews alleged to be controlling the world. For this I express my sincere apologies to the intelligent remnant that perceive, as I do, the abuse of the First Amendment (freedom of speech) in this issue. Above all, I am extremely disappointed in you for publishing such a contextually biased and hate filled article, allegedly by an honest, investigative, anonymous author, who on every page provides egregious distortions condemning the Jewish race in general as people by their nature, due to their religion and upbringing, are virulently, relentlessly 'specially anti-Christ.' You abuse our friendship, my support, and my name to justify your cause. You used me as an example of one of few good Jews in your opening paragraph by writing there were many Jews who believed in Christ, called Messianic Jews, . . . who were not involved with any anti-Christ movement. These quotes aptly exemplify the ignorance, and subliminal racism, of your publication. The term nature implies a genetic predisposition or evolution, but religion and upbringing refers more accurately to behavioral and cultural determinants of admittedly biased and likewise hate-filled Jewish ideologies. The second quote implies the vast majority of Jewish people are taught to hate and fear versus love and respect Christians and/or Christianity. As a Jewish man and author of Why It's Time Jews and Christians Unite, I submit this was not my experience during family or religious instruction. Nor do I believe that Jews, in general, are reared to distrust gentiles any more than other Jews, or any more than gentiles are taught, through works like yours, to distrust Jews. I was obviously wrong to assume you understood the destructive manner in which populations (we refer to as sheeple) have been, and with your article are being, divided to conquer the global flock. For this, I also apologize to my supporters since I suspect your feature has done more to misinform the American patriot community than any anti-Semitic publication I have read to date, including The Protocols of the Elders of Sion (the Masonic document that was re-named Protocols of the Elders of Zion following its reworking to propagandize, like your article, Jewish hate). Deceptively, you stated, The author went to great lengths to point out that all Jews were not necessarily involved in global fascism and genocides. Where in the article were these great lengths? Why would you even add the word necessarily in the above quote? This implies your own belief that possibly all Jews participate in this sinister plot, or your desire to raise such suspicions in gullible readers. Cunningly, stating your own position/bias, you challenged anyone who could, to dispute the facts presented by the anonymous author. Why would anyone bother when you, the editor/publisher-who most readers assume did his due diligence in substantiating the author's claims (suspiciously missing references)-stated, It was factual, a little frightening, and dead on when put into context with current events. Regarding current events, your publication fits precisely the divide and conquer New World Order protocols. Time does not permit me to respond to almost every page and paragraph of the article that included gross misrepresentations. I will focus merely on two glaring deceptions: the alleged Jewish-ness of international bankers, particularly the Rothschilds, and the alleged Jewish control over Hollywood and the liberal media in general. The following is excerpted largely from my forthcoming book, Death in the Air: Globalism, Terrorism and Toxic Warfare (Tetrahedron Publishing Group; 1-888-508-4787). I have added not Jewish (NJ) to the globalists and international financers who shame other religions. Rothschild, J.P. Morgan, and the Rockefeller Banking Axis The most infamous anti-Jewish document in
