Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Guitar Virtuoso]

-Caveat Lector-

"chill"  ... say what ...???  Maybe you need a shot at the bar yourself ...
???

Anyhow ... apparently Bush, prior to his big booze "bust," got a tad pissed
whilst havin' a few toasts with an Aussie Tennis Legend ... so, i figure the
guy can't be all THAT BAD !!!  At least he seems to be more of a
down-to-earth character than his opponent.   Gore on the other hand, appears
to strut the stage like he's dragging a pineapple of sizable dimension
betwixt his rectal passage.

BTW - i don't have my Rosetta Stone with me today, nor the Cipher Key, so I
have no idea what all the other crypto stuff is about ... in the rest of
your post ... ???

The media over this way ... seem to be in favour of Gore ... i can't see
that a Bush "win," is a foregone ... anyone's guess really ... "lesser of
two evils" is still the only real option being given ... imo ... Bush seems
the better choice, lower taxes and more of a peacemaker ... but the press
influence certainly appears to be behind Gore.  Anyhow ... by the time this
e-mail surfaces ... you Yanks will probably know the outcome and have a
winner ... the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Hmmm ... now where's that Fosters ... ???

BRP!!!



- Original Message -
From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest


 -Caveat Lector-

 Please, chill, there is no need to shout and . . . what do you know of
Bush
 "baby?"

 And this list is not about the election. But dunna worry,  the "odds" are
if
 your "favor."

 Thanks

 Om
 K

 In a message dated 11/2/00 7:09:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 BUSH SOUNDS LIKE THE BETTER CANDIDATE ... I'M NOT THAT PRIVY TO US
POLITICS
 ... BUT FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, AND READ ... IF ONE HAD TO CHOOSE THE
"LESSER
 OF TWO EVILS," WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE GAME PLAN ANYWAY ... YOU'D HAVE
 TO GO WISH BUSH ... SURELY???
 
 
 
   - Original Message -
 
   From: Eagle 1
 
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 1:19 PM
 
   Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
 
 
 
 
 
   So what if Gore lied, or Bush lied...  about ANYTHING... ???
 
   (Maybe they both wear pantyhose?
 
   Has either lied about this yet?
 
   Heck,  what brand do they use???
 
   THAT would be more useful information).

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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Mike Switzer]

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the man is an alcoholic...

It is not fair to say he was an alcoholic.

If you are an alcoholic who doesn't drink anymore, then you are just a
recovering alcoholic.


While he was drinking and driving Gore was running for office...and Nader
was pressuring for legislation that would save lives...

it's called leading by example...

12xu
out

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Subject: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest


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What I what to know what is the big deal that Bush had
a DUI 24 years ago.

To me that is ancient history and has no bearing on
how he is acting today.  He could not be any worse
then Clinton and Gore.

So let us stay with the issues at hand.


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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Ynr Chyldz Wyld]

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From: "Bob Stokes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Clinton is not responsible for the economy, Greenspan is the one person
 most responsible for the economy.  This "booming economy" is booming for
 those wealthy enough to be in the top 10% or so on the economic scale, those
 of us less fortunate are actually loosing buying power.  The reason the GNP
 is growing is because the rich are getting richer, not because poorer folks
 are making a better living as the clinton bunch would like you to think,
 finding facts about that is very easy ...

Specifically the fact that since 1993, a large population of skilled workers have been 
'downsized', and are
now forced to work temporary and/or part-time jobs -- and usually more than one job 
just to make ends meet --
that provide little or no benefits like medical insurance or paid sick leave.  But 
because they are employed,
the administration uses this to claim we have a booming economy with low unemployment.

What they aren't reporting is the huge increase in under-employment.  It is a smoke 
and mirrors trick.


June

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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Ynr Chyldz Wyld]

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From: "Terry" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But then that's Ok cause we keep getting these Fast Food
Restaurants on every street corner for job security.

Same scenario in New England.  I've been wondering
whether the reason unemployment stats are so good is, besides
them cooking them for political and public consumption, that
this younger workforce is on welfare, disability and/or sheltered
work programs.  It would be easy to take them out of the workforce
calculation, or into it, as needed and whenever needed.  Like those
trust fund IOU's.

Well, I can tell you how they are now handling it in Connecticut.  It used to be that 
if you were collecting
unemployment, but worked at a job (even part time) that paid you more than your weekly 
unemployment allotment,
you were still kept on the books, still had to report your status weekly.  In 
otherwords, the Unemployment
Commission wasn't paying you anything because you had earned more than the Commission 
allowed, but you were
still on the books as 'unemployed'.  This took into consideration the fact that many 
people take temporary or
part-time work just to get their foot in a door of a company, in hopes that perhaps 
they will eventually be
hired on as full-time employees; or just that often-times one can get a part-time job 
that pays more than what
unemployement gives out.

Now, if you report earnings over your weekly allotment for four weeks in a row, you 
are now automatically
removed from the books.  So people who are getting by with a part-time job that just 
happens to pay them a
little over what unemployment was paying are now reported as 'employed'...and hence, 
we now are presented with
a rosy picture of 'full employment', ignoring the fact that many of the people who are 
reported as being
employed are working part-time, sometimes multiple part-time jobs just to make ends 
meet.  Or they are working
as temps.  Both types of 'employment' pay a fraction of what full-time, permanent 
positions would pay, and
offer little, if any, benefits.  But it is an economic boom for the big companies, who 
don't have to pay the
salaries and cost of benefits to maintain a full-time workforce of employees.


June

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[CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[gandalf]

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What I what to know what is the big deal that Bush had
a DUI 24 years ago.

To me that is ancient history and has no bearing on
how he is acting today.  He could not be any worse
then Clinton and Gore.

So let us stay with the issues at hand.


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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[ThePiedPiper]

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This has many of the current items on Bush and DUI is
a very small part.  This page will be updated again
later today.
http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/index.htm

gandalf wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

 What I what to know what is the big deal that Bush had
 a DUI 24 years ago.

 To me that is ancient history and has no bearing on
 how he is acting today.  He could not be any worse
 then Clinton and Gore.

 So let us stay with the issues at hand.


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If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually
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Atrocities happen when the people about you -
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others to differ from me in opinion"
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those who do the work and
those who take the credit.
He told me to be in the first group -
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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Steve Wingate]

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On 4 Nov 00, at 2:00, Bob Stokes wrote:

 Do you really think some dumb asshole like Clinton is responsible for this
 "booming economy?"


YES!!! BTW, is that defined as a 'loaded question'?

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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[T Nohava]

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 At least Clinton/Gore balanced the budget for a change, as opposed to
 300 Billion + deficits and sluggish economy during the Reagan/Bush years.

Carter was too blind to figure out the future effects of inflation. We bit
the bullet for a couple years until we had a run of prosperity.


 Now we have an booming economy,

Yes

 and a budget surplus.

Heh heh heh... I.O.U.'s

 I guess some
 would like to return to the failed ways of the past. Get a few
 hundred more
 dollars back from a tax cut,

Clinton either lied, told us what we wanted to hear or didn't know what the
hell he was promising us. I think it was all of the former. I curious as to
where all this money is coming from with all these new programs Gore is
promising us.

 with higher interest rates,

Didn't Greenspan hike interest rates a while back???

 higher  unemployment,

Well we've got alot of jobs...too bad they don't pay spit.

 soaring medical costs, etc.


Heh heh heh...evidently you haven't looked at your paycheck stub recently or
don't have any hospitalization. Mine increases 50 cents per hour next week
and they informed us it will go up another 20 cents per hour next June.


 Just give the big companies a big tax break
 and everything will be ok! I think you are dreaming...

You're gonna have to get back in this reality. Something has to be done
here. In Michigan we've had a bustling economy but...in our local area alone
we've lost a General Motors Plant 8000 workers, most of the production
facilities at Kellogg's Cereals, we had a Monsanto merger with
Pharmacia/Upjohn with over 2000 jobs lost and we're waiting on the rumored
American Home Products buyout/merger where they buyout and trash what they
don't want. But then that's Ok cause we keep getting these Fast Food
Restaurants on every street corner for job security.

I remember when James Blanchard (democrat) was last Governor here, things
seemed peachy until our 16 billion dollar debt caught up with us. John
Engler(republican) found the "books were cooked" cleaned up the debt and put
us on a surplus. We could have a rude awakening if Bush gets in and has a
bunch of "Pro's" sort through the books that were handled by Clinton's
Cronie's. Bush is smart enough to surround himself with qualified
professionals and not "good old buddies".

I still like to say I'm non-partisan but enough is enough. We need a little
bit of both but it's time to get a republican in there to sort through it
all and see what we've really got. Gore's making too many promises and
trying to be too many things to too many people just like Clinton did. He's
telling us what we want to hear.

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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Jenny Decker]

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I have just a few problems with this DUI story. One, Dubya's verbal evasions
refer to it only as the "mistakes" made in his "youth."  Despite the fact
that, as we get older, we tend to see all significantly younger people as
"young," I think most people, myself included, don't include age 30--the age
at which Dubya drank and drove (and got caught, because if he got caught
once, statistics say he did it a hundred times more) in the concept of
"youth." Gosh, those "youngsters" are usually thought of as teenagers. I
think we need to investigate the Texas troupers' records of later
years--including arrests that Daddy Bush had wiped--rather than just
reacting to this one report.
Second, Bush has said he stopped drinking '14 years ago"--which would
make him 40--10 years AFTER the arrest. He says of the arrest "I learned my
lesson!" but apparently the learning took 10 years to sink in. In between
times, he appears to have been adrinkin' and adrivin', and just not atellin'
Ole Daddy Bush. If dumbbell Dubya is elected, and it takes him ten years to
learn a lesson, he'll be out of office before he "larns his lesson!" if he
makes mistakes that cause disaster to the country wrong-headed enough to
elect him.
Why is this important?  For one thing,  WHERE ARE THE MOTHERS AGAINST
DRUNK DRIVERS--MADD--IN THIS DISCUSSION?  HOW HAVE THEY BEEN SILENCED?
Presently, drinking and driving is viewed as a heinous and irresponsible
crime. In California, where I live, ONE DUI ARREST ( at only .08 blood
alcohol--Dubya's was .12--half again as high) will cost drivers automatic
license revocation for three months, AND they need to go to behaviorial
school, AND they get mopped through the court system for a year, the
insurance company cancels them and they need special insurance policies.
'Two friends told me ruefully that their (first and only) DUIs cost them
$10,000 apiece. Jail is also a possibility for the judge to impose.
Why aren't these "concerned mothers" speaking up? Have they been either
bought off--or terrorized into silence--by Dubya's campaign coerscion
specialists?
Parallel question:  what about Dubya's compulsive tastes for cocaine?
WHERE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SOLD IT TO HIM WHERE ARE ALL THE
ACQUAINTANCES WHO KNEW DAMN WELL WHAT HE WAS DOING!!! Same question: by what
strongarm methods have THEY  been silenced during the election?
The first election I remember directly is the 1960 one, Kennedy vs.
Nixon. Every election from that one forward has eloquently demonstrated that
each side plays dirty pool; I cheerfully admit that the political process
largely disgusts me. Yet I cannot EVER remember a candidate so OBVIOUSLY
DERELICT, lamebrained, owned-by-conniving-corporate-interests and
MOTIVATIONALLY AND INTELLECTUALLY unqualified as Bush is. I can only assume
that the largescale corporate ownership of the media has put a blockade
between the truth about this degenerate scumbag and the public's need to
know, and a falsifying spin on every embarassing fact that nevertheless
manages (as this DUI story did) to escape the censorship barricade. I only
wish all the mothers and neighborhood activists who scream so loudly against
"drunk drivers!" and "protecting our children against drugs!" would scream
now.
Jenny Decker
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 Steve W,
 Perhaps I should have been more specific...  I meant,  a problem involving
 **drinking and driving**, that precipitated your 24 year old report of DUI
 arrest,  which is the topic of this thread of discussion.   Also, he
[Bush]
 says he hasn't been under the influence of demanding alcohol in 14 years.
 That's quite a while ago.  Fourteen years is plenty of time to "get over
 it".   So what's your point???  He got the rehab he needed, obviously...
and
 does not still have the problem, so he says.  WHY beat a dead horse?  The
 subject is moot at this point.

 This kind of political mud slinging is exactly what I do not understand
 about the 'new democrats',  i.e...  bringing up stuff that happened  "x"
 many years ago,  as if it is still the problem today.  I know many people
 who are quote **FORMER** alcoholics and function just fine in their jobs
 today,  successfully,  without a drink even under stress.  I also know
many
 who have previously had some psychological problems, but, again, function
 normally and without problems today.  Everyone tells the person who needs
 help to go to rehab.  They go,  and are rehabilitated,  or rehabilitate
 themselves, yet everyone still points and accuses as though the problem
 still exists.

 What's your point?  except to attempt to defamate the candidate you see as
 least fit.

 I reiterate,  it 

Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Eagle 1]

Whatever, Bill,
FYI, I don't watch much TV at all. 
Don't have time for it. IF and when I do watch TV, I'm usually 
watching a rented movie or a prime movie channel. I get my news, 
online, as I hate the forcedcommercials, and nearly 
refuse to watch TV because of the marketing circus. 
My TV time is very limited, as I do work 
for a living. 

Regardless of your lack of belief, of WHEN 
I saw this piece, Bill, 
the ONLY time I have ever seen the piece on AL 
was when it was originally aired,
as previously stated. Sorry to 
disappoint you.

eagle 1

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  William Shannon 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 7:33 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits 
  DUI Arrest
  In a 
  message dated 11/2/00 11:39:43 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
  
  I still vividly remember video of AL GORE, visiting with 
William Jefferson Clinton, in 1992, at the Jefferson memorial, 
pointing up to the president's busts that lined the round 
office of the former founding father, and Big Al asking: "Who are 
these guys?" OH MY! eagle 1What you 
  "vividly remember" is a recent FOX News piece on this gaffe'...I hardly 
  belive that you actually caught this when it was originally aired. 
  Bill. 

Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Eagle 1]

I think we should vote for neither one of the 
major candidates up for grabs...
Neither has the guts, nor the brains to stand up 
to some of the criminal leaders in the world. What we need is a 
REAL CROOK of a president! One who is not afraid to lie, steal and 
cheat. A holy president will get us no where fast. The first 
onslaught of terror, and either of these guys is bound to melt at a 
confrontation.
We need a president who can take the world by the balls, and show 
the world that the US, is not the draft dodging, pantywaisted, 
sex fiends that thelame duckpresident has frequently shown in 
the past. NOW... WHO of the two major candidates running can stand up to 
this test... ?
NEITHER.

So I may just go cast my vote for TED NUGENT and hope the rest of the 
USrocks the vote
as well!!!



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  William Shannon 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 7:39 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits 
  DUI Arrest
  In a 
  message dated 11/3/00 7:38:25 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
  Well why don;t someone ask Gore and Clinton if they are 
Communists? They are traitors! So 
  "stoopid"...why ask such DUMBASSED questions of this well-read list??? 
  Here's a thought...LOOK UP THE WORD "COMMUNIST"...methinks you'll see why 
  nobody with an OPERATIVE BRAIN asks such a MORONIC question! By 
  the way..."socially liberal" DOESN'T equal COMMUNIST... NO FURTHER 
  COMMENT NEEDED... Bill. 

Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Terry]

 At least Clinton/Gore balanced the budget for a change, as opposed 
to 300 Billion + deficits and sluggish economy during the Reagan/Bush 
years.Carter was too blind to figure out the future effects of inflation. We 
bitthe bullet for a couple years until we had a run of 
prosperity. This explains the 
Reagan year economics I would think, it's how I remember it. Didn't Reagan 
have a tax cut in order to stimulate the inflated economy?
 Now we 
have an booming economy,Yes and a budget surplus.Heh heh heh... 
I.O.U.'s

==Surplus is only on paper; statistics 
lie
 I guess 
some would like to return to the failed ways of the past. Get a 
few hundred more dollars back from a tax cut,Clinton either 
lied, told us what we wanted to hear or didn't know what thehell he was 
promising us. I think it was all of the former. I curious as towhere all 
this money is coming from with all these new programs Gore ispromising 
us.
He lied, like he has with so many 
other items, AND told us what we wanted to hear, like with so many other 
items.

The money is perhaps coming 
from"expected savings" from belt-tightening and other smoke-and-mirrors 
tricks.
 with higher interest 
rates,Didn't Greenspan hike interest rates a while back???
 higher unemployment,Well we've got alot of jobs...too bad 
they don't pay spit.

==Haven't you heard of all the 
layoffs in the communicaitons industries in the past 2-3 
years?? soaring medical costs, etc.Heh heh 
heh...evidently you haven't looked at your paycheck stub recently ordon't 
have any hospitalization. Mine increases 50 cents per hour next weekand they 
informed us it will go up another 20 cents per hour next June.==Soaring primarily because of malpractice 
insurance, which is rising because doctors/hospitals do things like amputate the 
wrong foot (Tampa General).
 Just give the big companies a big tax break and everything 
will be ok! I think you are dreaming...
You're gonna have to get back in this reality. 
Something has to be donehere. In Michigan we've had a bustling economy 
but...in our local area alonewe've lost a General Motors Plant 8000 workers, 
most of the productionfacilities at Kellogg's Cereals, we had a Monsanto 
merger withPharmacia/Upjohn with over 2000 jobs lost and we're waiting on 
the rumoredAmerican Home Products buyout/merger where they buyout and trash 
what theydon't want. But then that's Ok cause we keep getting these Fast 
FoodRestaurants on every street corner for job security.

Same scenario in New 
England. I've been wondering whether the reason unemployment stats are so 
good is, besides them cooking them for political and public consumption, that 
this younger workforce is on welfare, disability and/or sheltered work 
programs. It would be easy to take them out of the workforce calculation, 
or into it, as neededand whenever needed. Like those trust fund 
IOU's. I remember when James Blanchard (democrat) was last 
Governor here, thingsseemed peachy until our 16 billion dollar debt caught 
up with us. JohnEngler(republican) found the "books were cooked" cleaned up 
the debt and putus on a surplus. We could have a rude awakening if Bush gets 
in and has abunch of "Pro's" sort through the books that were handled by 
Clinton'sCronie's. Bush is smart enough to surround himself with 
qualifiedprofessionals and not "good old buddies".

===Shades of Whitewater. And 
don't forget Cattlegate.I still like to say I'm non-partisan but 
enough is enough. We need a littlebit of both but it's time to get a 
republican in there to sort through itall and see what we've really got. 
Gore's making too many promises andtrying to be too many things to too many 
people just like Clinton did. He'stelling us what we want to hear.

===For sure. While Republican in 
leaning, I am voting more against Gore than I am for Bush. One big reason 
is that I feel Gore is more pro-UN and pro-nationalism and pro-New World 
Order/One World Government and I am decidedly not.

So I agree with G. Virtuoso's comment, 

IF ONE HAD TO CHOOSE THE "LESSER OF TWO EVILS," WHICH IS 
ESSENTIALLY THE GAME PLAN ANYWAY ... YOU'D HAVE TO GO WISH BUSH ... 
SURELY???

We are about to lose the bill of rights and constitution 
with Clinton  Goreand Democratic Party!
We already have lost them, the 
loss is just not apparent yet.
Well why don;t someone 
ask Gore and Clinton if they are Communists? They aretraitors!
=The definition of a traitor used to, years 
ago, include selling out one's country's financial interests to 
foreigners. Like NAFTA. Iagree they are traitors. 


We know what stress did to Clinton. ;-)
==It was hardly "stress"! It 
was purely lust and opportunity. Now the whole world, present and 
future,will remember him for this. He deserves that; it is nothing 
more than the truth. Then 
there's the Lincoln Bedroom shame.
Clinton's conduct is on a par with the one 
who did not even TRY to rescue the lady in the 

Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[T Nohava]

-Caveat Lector-

I remember that well, it was on the Nightly News on one of the major
networks.


 And please, let's don't leave anyone out,  as we've known for eight long
 years that Albert Gore isn't ready for prime time either.

 I still vividly remember video of AL GORE,  visiting with William
 Jefferson
 Clinton, in 1992,  at the Jefferson memorial,   pointing up to the
 president's busts that lined the round office of the former
 founding father,
 and Big Al asking:
 "Who are these guys?"

 OH MY!

 eagle 1



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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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 "It's not something he's proud of," Bush spokeswoman Mindy Tucker said,
 explaining why Bush had not come forward with the information on his own.

 Bush was pulled over by police for driving too slowly near his family's
 Kennebunkport, Maine, summer home during the Labor Day weekend.
 Other people were in the car, but Tucker did not know who. 

There are a lot of reasons why I don't want Dubya for president, but none of
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[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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  YOU'D HAVE TO GO WISH BUSH ... SURELY??? 

Oh surely not!  Prudy

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[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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In a message dated 11/02/2000 9:11:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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 Who really cares about who lied about what?  The past is the past and no
one is going to change what either one of these nutzoids did in their pasts.
The bottom line is you are not going to find the perfect candidate in the
choices for president available.  So why bother?  And why even bother to
vote?
 NEITHER is worthy of my time to go to the poll.  

Now wait a minute.  We've spent eight years investigating things that the
Clintons might or might not have done for the past thirty years.  I thought
the past was the past, until the Republicans spent millions of tax dollars
insisting that every little bit of anything really counted.   So if you don't
want to vote, don't vote, but don't tell me the past is the past until you
can get the Republican party to cough up the money they cost us investigating
it.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Bill Richer]

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Well why don;t someone ask Gore and Clinton if they are Communists?  They are
traitors!

Bill

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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest: Now Votescam...

[Stopforth, Jamie]

  
  Who really cares about who lied about
  what? The past is the past and no one is going to change what either one
  of these nutzoids did in their pasts. The bottom
  line is you are not going to find the perfect candidate in the choices for
  president available. So why
  bother?And why even botherto
  vote?***
  NEITHER is worthy of my time to go to the
  poll. 
  
  
  eagle 1
  
  
  Good
  Question there Eagle 1...
  
  www.votescam.com
  
  
  You're running in your first election for City
  Council in a crowded field of 26 candidates. Nine will be elected. The No. I
  local anchorman comes on T.V. at about 9:15 PM and announces that you're going
  to do very well for a first time candidatehe flashes on the screen that
  you're running 12th; only three places from victory. Such a finish would give
  hope to all who were daring to fight city hall. Earlier in the
  evening, a liberal-leftist hometown university professor who was analyzing
  early returns for another local TV station had projected that your arch-rival,
  and his allya sweetheart of the anti-God portion of the establishmentwas
  headed towards defeat. But HO-L-L-L-D EVERYTHING !!!At
  approximately 9.45 PM the same anchorman announces that there has been a
  computer breakdown. 45 minutes later when the computers come back up, a
  massive switch has occurred. You and 7 other feisty challengers have fallen to
  the very bottom of the heap The establishment sweetheart has jumped into a
  winning positionagainst all odds. Despite unprecedented public
  dissatisfaction, the same oldfaces are elected once again. Many conclude that
  "you just can't fight city hall. " Things have worked out just great for all
  those entrenched politicians who seemed to be the object of such public
  dissatisfaction right up to election day. The next morning, you scan the
  papers in vain for any mention of the computer breakdown no record for
  posterity. The above scenario is my storybut it was happening in
  dozens of places all across the nation. It was 1979 and a new day had quietly
  dawned in America - UNVERIFIABLE, RIGGABLE computerized vote
  tabulation. 
  Ballots for
  BulletsWhen I was small I remember my Dad saying
  how in other countries they would shoot each other to decide the transfer of
  power. In our country it was done by the ballot at election time.
  Millions of American soldiers have fought and bled and died to protect
  your right to free and fair elections; to protect your right to an orderly,
  peaceful transfer of power when the people so will. 
  How Your Parents' Votes Were
  CountedOnce upon a time, Americans voted by Paper
  Ballot. At the end of the day after the polls had closed, neighborhood people,
  Democrats and Republicans, worked together to count the votes in the precinct
  (polling place) BEFORE the votes left that precinct. The count was then posted
  at the precinct polling place for all to see. This is the only way to
  insure a verifiable election. Variations of method are possible, but the
  elements of physical ballots which are counted and posted at the precinct
  before the ballots leave each precinct are essential to insure a fair and
  honest count. To rig an election with the above safeguards built in,
  one would have to bribe many hundreds of neighborhood people, including key
  Democrats and Republicans in each precinct you hoped to rig. Finally, the
  group of people bribed at each precinct would only have access to a tiny
  fraction of the vote. There would be no hope of throwing an election from a
  central location with the push of a button. 
  The Greatest Cover-up
  Begins About 1974 a
  sinister development was in full swing all over the United States. In many
  areas, especially high population regions, the votes were no longer being
  counted in the precincts by neighborhood people. The switch was on to computer
  vote counting systems. Typical was Cincinnati, Oluo where votes were bundled
  up immediately after the polls closed and sent to a mysterious centra computer
  room to be counted by secret computer codes. To add insult to injury, the
  votes were counted away from the watchful eye of the entire electorate and the
  press.Despite the brutal cover up that has been conducted for
  going on date decades by the newsmedia and the major parties to prevent you
  from hearing about this issue, some major media news items have appeared. In a
  rare but superb news story on the eve of the 1988 Presidential election, Dan
  Rather (CBS Evening News) engaged in this exchange with computer expert Howard
  J. Strauss of Princeton University: Rather- "Realistically, could
  the fix be put on in a national election?" Strauss: "Get me a job with
  the company that writes the software for this program. (ed-
  Strauss was referring to the most common computer program in use) Then
  I'd have access to one third of the votes. Is that enough to fix a general
  election?" 
  "A 

Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[K]

-Caveat Lector-

Let's see now...

Did Bush drive his car off a bridge while drunk?

Did a female passenger drown?

Did he fail to recue her?

Since none of these things happened, Bush obviously is totally
worthless.
###

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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Stopforth, Jamie]

Title: RE: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest





I think you meant, did he even TRY to rescue her? In which he didn't.




Let's see now...


Did Bush drive his car off a bridge while drunk?


Did a female passenger drown?


Did he fail to recue her?


Since none of these things happened, Bush obviously is totally
worthless.
###


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it. - Thomas Paine

Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[William Shannon]

In a message dated 11/2/00 11:39:43 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I still vividly remember video of AL GORE, visiting with William Jefferson
Clinton, in 1992, at the Jefferson memorial, pointing up to the
president's busts that lined the round office of the former founding father,
and Big Al asking:
"Who are these guys?"

OH MY!

eagle 1


What you "vividly remember" is a recent FOX News piece on this gaffe'...I hardly belive that you actually caught this when it was originally aired.

Bill.

Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[William Shannon]

In a message dated 11/3/00 7:38:25 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Well why don;t someone ask Gore and Clinton if they are Communists? They are
traitors!




So "stoopid"...why ask such DUMBASSED questions of this well-read list???
Here's a thought...LOOK UP THE WORD "COMMUNIST"...methinks you'll see why nobody with an OPERATIVE BRAIN asks such a MORONIC question!

By the way..."socially liberal" DOESN'T equal COMMUNIST...


NO FURTHER COMMENT NEEDED...

Bill.

Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[T Nohava]

In defense of 
"Eagle" I VIVIDLY remember it well and didn't see it aired recently. Seems like 
it was a tour of DC they and their wives were on and remember Gore gazing at 
these busts that lined the upper portion of a wall while making that statement. 
The first thought that came to my mind was "Well...here we go...this is gonna 
get good". I also waited for the tax cut Clinton promised us in his first 
campaign...what did we get...a Tax Increase. Clinton and Gore in my opinion have 
and are making promises they can't keep. I like to think I'm non-partisan and 
don't care for either candidate but would have to decide against Gore in this 
campaign.

  -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research 
  List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William 
  ShannonSent: Friday, November 03, 2000 8:33 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI 
  ArrestIn a message dated 11/2/00 11:39:43 PM Central Standard Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
  I still vividly remember video of AL GORE, visiting with 
William Jefferson Clinton, in 1992, at the Jefferson memorial, 
pointing up to the president's busts that lined the round 
office of the former founding father, and Big Al asking: "Who are 
these guys?" OH MY! eagle 1What you 
  "vividly remember" is a recent FOX News piece on this gaffe'...I hardly 
  belive that you actually caught this when it was originally aired. 
  Bill. 

Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Steve Wingate]

-Caveat Lector-

On 3 Nov 00, at 21:12, T Nohava wrote:

  I also waited for the tax cut
 Clinton promised us in his first campaign...what did we get...a Tax Increase.

At least Clinton/Gore balanced the budget for a change, as opposed to
300 Billion + deficits and sluggish economy during the Reagan/Bush years.

Now we have an booming economy, and a budget surplus. I guess some
would like to return to the failed ways of the past. Get a few hundred more
dollars back from a tax cut, with higher interest rates, higher unemployment,
soaring medical costs, etc. Just give the big companies a big tax break
and everything will be ok! I think you are dreaming...

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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

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In a message dated 11/3/00 10:04:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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   I also waited for the tax cut
   Clinton promised us in his first campaign...what did we get...a Tax
 Increase.

  At least Clinton/Gore balanced the budget for a change, as opposed to
  300 Billion + deficits and sluggish economy during the Reagan/Bush years.

  Now we have an booming economy, and a budget surplus. I guess some
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  dollars back from a tax cut, with higher interest rates, higher
unemployment,

  soaring medical costs, etc. Just give the big companies a big tax break
  and everything will be ok! I think you are dreaming...

  Steve
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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

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??? Clinton/Gore balanced the budget - since when, in what dream?

Do you really think some dumb asshole like Clinton is responsible for this
"booming economy?"

You even think we have a budget surplus?

This is a troll right?

not very funny
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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

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On 4 Nov 00, at 2:00, Bob Stokes wrote:

 You even think we have a budget surplus?

You think we don't? Based on what evidence? You do have evidence to
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 This is a troll right?

Or are you trolling a long line of obfuscation?

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[CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Steve Wingate]

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(What else is Bush not telling us? --SW)

Bush aides acknowledge 1976 DUI charge

November 2, 2000
Web posted at: 7:41 p.m. EST (0041 GMT)

From staff and wire reports

GLEN ELLYN, Illinois -- Aides to Texas Gov. George W. Bush
acknowledged Thursday that in 1976 Bush was arrested for driving under
the influence of alcohol in Kennebunkport, Maine.

Bush, who was 30 at the time, paid a $150 fine and his driving privileges
were temporarily suspended in that state.

Responding to a news report about the arrest just five days before the
presidential election, one aide here said, "We obviously believe the timing
of this disclosure is political. It was leaked with the intent of hurting the
governor."

Campaign officials for Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore declined
to comment.

"It's not something he's proud of," Bush spokeswoman Mindy Tucker said,
explaining why Bush had not come forward with the information on his own.

Bush was pulled over by police for driving too slowly near his family's
Kennebunkport, Maine, summer home during the Labor Day weekend.
Other people were in the car, but Tucker did not know who.

The GOP presidential nominee has said he quit drinking the day after his
40th birthday -- July 6, 1986. Alcohol "was beginning to compete for my
affections," he told an interviewer in September.

His presidential campaign said Thursday they decided to release details
after the 1976 police report was faxed to Maine news outlets.

CNN Correspondent Candy Crowley and The Associated Press
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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Eagle 1]

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IF this is the worst skeleton that must be dragged out  from Bush's
closet...
then,  is there really a problem with this?  unless there was a chronic
problem with drinking...?  This happened at what?  Age 30?  Hmm?  That's
24 years ago. Let's see, and how old is he now? 54?  and he has no other DUI
charges in 24 years?  Sounds like he learned from the error of his ways.

Dragging this kind of ludicrous stuff in the mud only makes Gore look more
like an idiot every day.

eagle 1



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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 6:54 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest


 -Caveat Lector-

 (What else is Bush not telling us? --SW)

 Bush aides acknowledge 1976 DUI charge

 November 2, 2000
 Web posted at: 7:41 p.m. EST (0041 GMT)

 From staff and wire reports

 GLEN ELLYN, Illinois -- Aides to Texas Gov. George W. Bush
 acknowledged Thursday that in 1976 Bush was arrested for driving under
 the influence of alcohol in Kennebunkport, Maine.

 Bush, who was 30 at the time, paid a $150 fine and his driving privileges
 were temporarily suspended in that state.

 Responding to a news report about the arrest just five days before the
 presidential election, one aide here said, "We obviously believe the
timing
 of this disclosure is political. It was leaked with the intent of hurting
the
 governor."

 Campaign officials for Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore declined
 to comment.

 "It's not something he's proud of," Bush spokeswoman Mindy Tucker said,
 explaining why Bush had not come forward with the information on his own.

 Bush was pulled over by police for driving too slowly near his family's
 Kennebunkport, Maine, summer home during the Labor Day weekend.
 Other people were in the car, but Tucker did not know who.

 The GOP presidential nominee has said he quit drinking the day after his
 40th birthday -- July 6, 1986. Alcohol "was beginning to compete for my
 affections," he told an interviewer in September.

 His presidential campaign said Thursday they decided to release details
 after the 1976 police report was faxed to Maine news outlets.

 CNN Correspondent Candy Crowley and The Associated Press
 contributed to this report.





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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[William Shannon]

In a message dated 11/2/00 7:24:40 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


IF this is the worst skeleton that must be dragged out from Bush's
closet...
then, is there really a problem with this? unless there was a chronic
problem with drinking...? This happened at what? Age 30? Hmm? 


The big issue is whether Bush ever lied about his conviction on any loan/mortgage type papers...that's the interesting part!

Bill.

Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Eagle 1]

So what if Gore lied, or Bush lied... 
about ANYTHING... ???
(Maybe they both wear pantyhose?
Has either lied about this yet?Heck, 
what brand do they use??? 
THAT would be more useful 
information).

Who really cares about who lied about 
what? The past is the past and no one is going to change what either one 
of these nutzoids did in their pasts. The 
bottom line is you are not going to find the perfect candidate in the choices 
for president available. So why 
bother? And why even botherto vote? 
NEITHER is worthy of my time to go to the 
poll. 

Fact is, you're going to get screwed, 
regardless of who is elected this time.
Face reality.
So why bring up trivial BS like a 24 year 
oldDUI chargethat has irrelevance to the subject at hand? 
NEITHER candidate, in my opinion, has 
the CHARACTER, nor the QUALITY that is 
required to be the president of this great country for the next four to possibly 
eight years, (not to mention that their salary is coming out of YOUR paycheck 
every week). 

So, we all are going to pay to get 
screwed, again. 
(As if we haven't already been paying for the 
same treatment the past 8 years).
What a wonderful thought for the new 
millennium'sfuture. 
NOT!

eagle 1


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  William Shannon 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 7:56 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits 
  DUI Arrest
  In a 
  message dated 11/2/00 7:24:40 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
  
  IF this is the worst skeleton that must be dragged out 
from Bush's closet... then, is there really a problem 
with this? unless there was a chronic problem with drinking...? 
This happened at what? Age 30? Hmm? 
  The big issue is whether Bush ever lied about his 
  conviction on any loan/mortgage type papers...that's the interesting part! 
  Bill. 
  
  
  
  .

Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Guitar Virtuoso]

BUSH SOUNDS LIKE THE BETTER 
CANDIDATE ... I'M NOT THATPRIVY TO US POLITICS ... BUT FROM WHAT 
I'VEHEARD, AND READ ... IF ONE HAD TO CHOOSE THE "LESSER OF TWO EVILS," 
WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE GAME PLAN ANYWAY ... YOU'D HAVE TO GO WISH BUSH ... 
SURELY???


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Eagle 1 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 1:19 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits 
  DUI Arrest
  
  So what if Gore lied, or Bush lied... 
  about ANYTHING... ???
  (Maybe they both wear pantyhose?
  Has either lied about this yet?Heck, 
  what brand do they use??? 
  THAT would be more useful 
  information).
  
  Who really cares about who lied about 
  what? The past is the past and no one is going to change what either one 
  of these nutzoids did in their pasts. The 
  bottom line is you are not going to find the perfect candidate in the choices 
  for president available. So why 
  bother? And why even botherto vote? 
  NEITHER is worthy of my time to go to the 
  poll. 
  
  Fact is, you're going to get screwed, 
  regardless of who is elected this time.
  Face reality.
  So why bring up trivial BS like a 24 year 
  oldDUI chargethat has irrelevance to the subject at hand? 
  NEITHER candidate, in my opinion, has 
  the CHARACTER, nor the QUALITY that is 
  required to be the president of this great country for the next four to 
  possibly eight years, (not to mention that their salary is coming out of YOUR 
  paycheck every week). 
  
  So, we all are going to pay to get 
  screwed, again. 
  (As if we haven't already been paying for the 
  same treatment the past 8 years).
  What a wonderful thought for the new 
  millennium'sfuture. 
  NOT!
  
  eagle 1
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
William 
Shannon 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 7:56 
PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits 
DUI Arrest
In a 
message dated 11/2/00 7:24:40 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

IF this is the worst skeleton that must be dragged out 
  from Bush's closet... then, is there really a problem 
  with this? unless there was a chronic problem with drinking...? 
  This happened at what? Age 30? Hmm? 

The big issue is whether Bush ever lied about his 
conviction on any loan/mortgage type papers...that's the interesting 
part! Bill. 



.

Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Kris Millegan]

-Caveat Lector-

Please, chill, there is no need to shout and . . . what do you know of Bush
"baby?"

And this list is not about the election. But dunna worry,  the "odds" are if
your "favor."

Thanks

Om
K

In a message dated 11/2/00 7:09:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

BUSH SOUNDS LIKE THE BETTER CANDIDATE ... I'M NOT THAT PRIVY TO US POLITICS
... BUT FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, AND READ ... IF ONE HAD TO CHOOSE THE "LESSER
OF TWO EVILS," WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE GAME PLAN ANYWAY ... YOU'D HAVE
TO GO WISH BUSH ... SURELY???



  - Original Message -

  From: Eagle 1

  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 1:19 PM

  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest





  So what if Gore lied, or Bush lied...  about ANYTHING... ???

  (Maybe they both wear pantyhose?

  Has either lied about this yet?

  Heck,  what brand do they use???

  THAT would be more useful information).

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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Guitar Virtuoso wrote:

 BUSH SOUNDS LIKE THE BETTER CANDIDATE ... I'M NOT THAT PRIVY
 TO US POLITICS ... BUT FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, AND READ ... IF
 ONE HAD TO CHOOSE THE "LESSER OF TWO EVILS," WHICH IS
 ESSENTIALLY THE GAME PLAN ANYWAY ... YOU'D HAVE TO GO WISH
 BUSH ... SURELY???

You must have mistakingly read/heard/recalled it exactly
"back-assed-wards," my friend.

Most sincerely,

Mike

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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Steve Wingate]

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On 2 Nov 00, at 19:32, Eagle 1 wrote:

 then,  is there really a problem with this?  unless there was a chronic
 problem with drinking...?

But Bush did have a chronic problem with alcohol and is apparently an
alcoholic, who claims he does not drink or do drugs anymore. Ok, but I
have to wonder how he will do under stress. We know what stress did to
Clinton. ;-)

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[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Amelia]

Except this time, it is the "Evil of Two Lessers." :) 
When I think of either of them being on TV almost daily, I think I shall take up 
drinking! It will certainly get the set turned off at my house. That 
thought is painful--watching the news and there one of them will be, Gore 
telling lies a 9 year old would not believe or Bush mispronouncing 10th grade 
vocabulary words before the whole world.  We are in for a bad time 
of it for the next four years. Pray for a miracle! It is not worth 
much but I shall go to vote just to let them know people are watching and do not 
approve. A heavy third party voting should at least give them a moment or 
two of wondering why they did not get those votes, too. Nah! They 
won't care but we can see how many of us are disgusted and vote our conscience 
even if it is "wasting" a vote.
Amelia
- Original Message - 
From: Guitar Virtuoso 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

BUSH SOUNDS LIKE THE BETTER 
CANDIDATE ... I'M NOT THATPRIVY TO US POLITICS ... BUT FROM WHAT 
I'VEHEARD, AND READ ... IF ONE HAD TO CHOOSE THE "LESSER OF TWO EVILS," 
WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE GAME PLAN ANYWAY ... YOU'D HAVE TO GO WISH BUSH ... 
SURELY???


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Eagle 1 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 1:19 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits 
  DUI Arrest
  
  So what if Gore lied, or Bush lied... 
  about ANYTHING... ???
  (Maybe they both wear pantyhose?
  Has either lied about this yet?Heck, 
  what brand do they use??? 
  THAT would be more useful 
  information).
  
  Who really cares about who lied about 
  what? The past is the past and no one is going to change what either one 
  of these nutzoids did in their pasts. The 
  bottom line is you are not going to find the perfect candidate in the choices 
  for president available. So why 
  bother? And why even botherto vote? 
  NEITHER is worthy of my time to go to the 
  poll. 
  
  .

Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Eagle 1]

-Caveat Lector-

Steve W,
Perhaps I should have been more specific...  I meant,  a problem involving
**drinking and driving**, that precipitated your 24 year old report of DUI
arrest,  which is the topic of this thread of discussion.   Also, he [Bush]
says he hasn't been under the influence of demanding alcohol in 14 years.
That's quite a while ago.  Fourteen years is plenty of time to "get over
it".   So what's your point???  He got the rehab he needed, obviously... and
does not still have the problem, so he says.  WHY beat a dead horse?  The
subject is moot at this point.

This kind of political mud slinging is exactly what I do not understand
about the 'new democrats',  i.e...  bringing up stuff that happened  "x"
many years ago,  as if it is still the problem today.  I know many people
who are quote **FORMER** alcoholics and function just fine in their jobs
today,  successfully,  without a drink even under stress.  I also know many
who have previously had some psychological problems, but, again, function
normally and without problems today.  Everyone tells the person who needs
help to go to rehab.  They go,  and are rehabilitated,  or rehabilitate
themselves, yet everyone still points and accuses as though the problem
still exists.

What's your point?  except to attempt to defamate the candidate you see as
least fit.

I reiterate,  it doesn't matter who wins...
We're all losers in the final analysis,
on the day that either of these yahoos is sworn to office.

eagle 1


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From: "Steve Wingate" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest


 -Caveat Lector-

 On 2 Nov 00, at 19:32, Eagle 1 wrote:

  then,  is there really a problem with this?  unless there was a chronic
  problem with drinking...?

 But Bush did have a chronic problem with alcohol and is apparently an
 alcoholic, who claims he does not drink or do drugs anymore. Ok, but I
 have to wonder how he will do under stress. We know what stress did to
 Clinton. ;-)

 Steve






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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Eagle 1]

-Caveat Lector-

Anyone wishing to "see" for themselves,  the Bush DUI article...
for mudslinging politics as usual
Please go to:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20001102/ts/bush_arrest_dc_5.html

-snip-
Bush, running neck-and-neck with Democratic rival Al Gore (news - web
sites), also questioned the timing of the report -- five days before the
Nov. 7 election -- saying, ``I have my suspicions.''

The Gore campaign has denied any involvement in leaking the news.

``I'm not proud of that. I've often said that years ago I made some
mistakes,'' Bush told reporters. ``I regret that it happened. But it did ...
I stopped drinking 14 years ago and I haven't had a drop since.''

Asked why he had not disclosed the incident earlier, Bush said:

``I didn't want my girls to do the same thing. I'm not trying to get away
with anything. I didn't want to talk about this in front of my daughters. I
didn't want them drinking and driving. It was a decision I made.''

Bush said he was arrested after a drinking session with former Australian
tennis star John Newcombe. In the car as well were Newcombe's wife and two
other people.

Bush campaign spokeswoman Karen Hughes said Bush, who was 30 at the time,
pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of driving while under the influence,
paid a $150 fine, and had his license temporarily suspended in the state of
Maine.

snip-


- Original Message -
From: "Eagle 1" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest


 -Caveat Lector-

 Steve W,
 Perhaps I should have been more specific...  I meant,  a problem involving
 **drinking and driving**, that precipitated your 24 year old report of DUI
 arrest,  which is the topic of this thread of discussion.   Also, he
[Bush]
 says he hasn't been under the influence of demanding alcohol in 14 years.
 That's quite a while ago.  Fourteen years is plenty of time to "get over
 it".   So what's your point???  He got the rehab he needed, obviously...
and
 does not still have the problem, so he says.  WHY beat a dead horse?  The
 subject is moot at this point.

 This kind of political mud slinging is exactly what I do not understand
 about the 'new democrats',  i.e...  bringing up stuff that happened  "x"
 many years ago,  as if it is still the problem today.  I know many people
 who are quote **FORMER** alcoholics and function just fine in their jobs
 today,  successfully,  without a drink even under stress.  I also know
many
 who have previously had some psychological problems, but, again, function
 normally and without problems today.  Everyone tells the person who needs
 help to go to rehab.  They go,  and are rehabilitated,  or rehabilitate
 themselves, yet everyone still points and accuses as though the problem
 still exists.

 What's your point?  except to attempt to defamate the candidate you see as
 least fit.

 I reiterate,  it doesn't matter who wins...
 We're all losers in the final analysis,
 on the day that either of these yahoos is sworn to office.

 eagle 1






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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Steve Wingate]

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On 2 Nov 00, at 22:36, Eagle 1 wrote:

 What's your point?  except to attempt to defamate the candidate you see as
 least fit.

These allegations have been on the Internet for many months. Someone
sent an email about a G. Bush or something like that arrested for drunk
driving in Maine. Bush's press secretary admitted today she was aware of
his previous arrests (actually two, one in his earlier, earlier youth for
stealing a wreath from a hotel).

I think the real issue here is Bush's lack of truthfulness and openness about
his past, some of which is part of the public records. (Maybe he assumed it
had been expunged due to his father's status) The lack of his foresight in
not releasing this information about his arrests earlier shows his lack of
leadership and yes, intelligence. Bush is not ready for prime time.

Can he even read? Has he been tested? :-)

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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Eagle 1]

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SW says,
Bush is not ready for prime time.
Can he even read? Has he been tested? :-)

And please, let's don't leave anyone out,  as we've known for eight long
years that Albert Gore isn't ready for prime time either.

I still vividly remember video of AL GORE,  visiting with William Jefferson
Clinton, in 1992,  at the Jefferson memorial,   pointing up to the
president's busts that lined the round office of the former founding father,
and Big Al asking:
"Who are these guys?"

OH MY!

eagle 1


- Original Message -
From: "Steve Wingate" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest


 -Caveat Lector-

 On 2 Nov 00, at 22:36, Eagle 1 wrote:

  What's your point?  except to attempt to defamate the candidate you see
as
  least fit.

 These allegations have been on the Internet for many months. Someone
 sent an email about a G. Bush or something like that arrested for drunk
 driving in Maine. Bush's press secretary admitted today she was aware of
 his previous arrests (actually two, one in his earlier, earlier youth for
 stealing a wreath from a hotel).

 I think the real issue here is Bush's lack of truthfulness and openness
about
 his past, some of which is part of the public records. (Maybe he assumed
it
 had been expunged due to his father's status) The lack of his foresight in
 not releasing this information about his arrests earlier shows his lack of
 leadership and yes, intelligence. Bush is not ready for prime time.

 Can he even read? Has he been tested? :-)

 Steve






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Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[ThePiedPiper]

Piper Creations page on George Bush and the Bush
family philosophy is at, there are multiple links
there.
  http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/index.htm
also
http://thepiedpiper.tripod.com/Book1/CNS1.htm#_Bush_/_Gore
Bush Must Face Lawsuit Brought by Environmental Activists
http://ens.lycos.com/ens/sep2000/2000L-09-13-02.html
By Brian Hansen
AUSTIN, Texas, September 13, 2000 (ENS) -
A Texas judge has rejected a motion to dismiss Republican
presidential nominee Governor George W. Bush from a civil
rights lawsuit brought by environmental groups
and individual protesters.
The suit was filed against the Texas governor by
citizens who were arrested and jailed last spring for
protesting Bush's environmental policies on the public
sidewalk in front of the Texas Governor's Mansion.

http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/communism0001.htm
At my web site I have some essays on Communisim
and it's belief in "Suvival of the Fittist"
Intresting that they advocate the common man
and common means below average.
Kissinger and Bush seem to advocate the status quo
it seems as if they do not believe in change either.
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  Is a Vote for BUSH a Vote For ASPARTAME?
  
  10.23.00
  
  For Immediate Release
  Contact ACSN: 214-352-4268
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  October 23, 2000
  
  Is a Vote for BUSH a Vote For ASPARTAME?
  You decide...
  
  First, came the inaction of an unethical Federal Prosecutor in the late
  1970s:
  
 Samuel Skinner is the U.S. Attorney  taking G.D. Searle,
  [inventors of aspartame] officials to court on behalf of the Food and
  Drug Administration, for lying about aspartame's deadly results in the
  falsified lab tests -  a grave Federal offense.
  Prosecutor, Samuel Skinner  then "defected" - left his government
  post and crossed over - to work for those same people he was taking to
  court, G.D. Searle's lawfirm, Sidley  Austin.
  He later left Sidley  Austin to insinuate his way back into government
  as head of the U.S. Department of Transportation [over the FAA 
  pilots].
  
  Where did the former U.S. Attorney/Dept. of Transportation Dir. go next?
  
The following is a brief excerpt from the feature magazine
  article in Washington D.C.'s SPOTLIGHT April 6, 1992 pg 14-15 -- also
  this and more was discussed on the January 21, 1992 broadcast on The
  Spotlight's nightly call-in talk forum, Radio Free America, hosted by
  Tom Valentine:
  
  Headline: "Media Ignores Scandals Close to President Bush's Campaign"
  
"It was President Bush's son, George W. Bush who suggested
  Samuel Skinner be named White House chief of staff. Son, George W. Bush
  said Skinner was so capable, yet if you look at Skinner's record . . .
  you'll find several cases where he wasn't looking out for the
  protection of the American people.
  Photo with article captioned: George W. Bush . . . High on Skinner."
  Also in the report: "While her husband served as President Bush's
  White House chief of staff, Mrs. Samuel Skinner remained employed by
  Sidley  Austin, G.D. Searle pharmaceutical's lawfirm.
  Major conflict of interest? Read on . . .
  
  Two examples of Bush's arrogant actions leading up to his
  nomination as a Presidential Candidate:
  
In 1995, ignoring approximately 50,000 phone calls from
  consumers to his Austin office,  asking him to "Veto" the notorious
  "Agricultural Anti-Defamation Act" [the one which allowed the Beef
  Industry in Texas to sue Oprah Winfrey], Texas Gov. George W. Bush
  refused to support his constituents, and allowed the unjust law to go
  into effect without his signature or veto.
  
Dallas-based Aspartame Consumer Safety Network and Pilot
  Hotline, [the grassroots multi-national organization formed by former
  State Judge, Mary Nash Stoddard and Washington consumer advocate,
  James Turner, Esq. in 1987 to promote food safety and consumer
  awareness] blitzed the media, in the spring of 1995, with interviews
  exposing this bill for being not only unnecessary
  [existing libel laws in Texas are more than adequate], but also
  dangerously un-Constitutional - taking away our Freedom of Speech.
  [Mainstream Media was on ACSN's side in this battle, calling it
  primarily a First Amendment  / Freedom of the Press issue.]
  
 Texas Gov.George W. Bush ignored the public outcry, and
  allowed the law  [jeeringly referred to in the press as the
  "Bush Veggie Bill"] to go into effect, September 1, 1995.
  When the Beef Industry tried to sue Oprah under this law in
  Amarillo, Texas, they lost their case.
  
Recently reported by the national media, are these George W.
  

Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest

[Steve Wingate]

-Caveat Lector-

Sounds like Gore has a sense of humor...

On 2 Nov 00, at 23:38, Eagle 1 wrote:

 I still vividly remember video of AL GORE,  visiting with William Jefferson
 Clinton, in 1992,  at the Jefferson memorial,   pointing up to the president's
 busts that lined the round office of the former founding father, and Big Al
 asking: "Who are these guys?"

 OH MY!



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