[CTRL] drudge report on The Foley Scandal
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[CTRL] DRUDGE REPORT 2002
-Caveat Lector- http://www.drudgereport.com/wood.htm Excerpt ROVE THOUGHT POST-9/11 WORLD SERIES GAME LIKE NAZI RALLY The president emerged wearing a New York Fire Department windbreaker. He raised his arm and gave a thumbs-up to the crowd on the third base side of the field. Probably 15,000 fans threw their arms in the air imitating the motion. He then threw a strike from the rubber, and the stadium erupted. Watching from owner George Steinbrenners box, Karl Rove thought, Its like being at a Nazi rally. (p. 277) A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/ctrl;listserv.aol.com/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Drudge: REPORT: U.S. PLANE ISSUED 'MAYDAY' AFTER CHINESE FIGHTER JETS SIGNALED THEY WOULD OPEN FIRE
-Caveat Lector- http://www.drudgereport.com/flasha.htm Mon Apr 02 2001 02:02:46 ET REPORT: U.S. PLANE ISSUED 'MAYDAY' AFTER CHINESE FIGHTER JETS SIGNALED THEY WOULD OPEN FIRE TAIPEI, April 2 -- KYODO -- A U.S. surveillance plane made an emergency landing in China on Sunday because two intercepting Chinese fighter jets signaled they would likely open fire, high-placed Taiwan military intelligence sources were quoted as saying Monday. The sources said they listened in on radio contact between the U.S. Navy aircraft -- an EP-3 Aries II surveillance plane -- and the Chinese jets, the ETT television network reported on its Web site. The dialogue shows that the Chinese pilots indicated that they were "extremely likely" to open fire, causing the U.S. aircraft to send a mayday signal to prevent an attack, the sources were quoted as saying. When the U.S. plane prepared for an emergency landing on the Chinese island of Hainan, it was clipped by one of the Chinese jets. The Chinese jet crashed into the South China Sea and its pilot remains missing. All 24 aboard the U.S. plane were reported unharmed. Washington said that the collision occurred in international airspace. While China is blaming the U.S. for the collision, the Taiwanese sources said it was the Chinese who caused the collision when they zoomed in on the surveillance plane in a bid to intercept it. The sources said initially the crew aboard one of the Chinese jets was elated when the U.S. plane went down, but that such euphoria quickly evaporated when they heard that the other Chinese fighter had crashed. Taiwan's Defense Ministry originally kept a low profile in connection with the incident, saying in a short statement Sunday night that it was on top of the situation. But on Monday, Administrative Vice Defense Minister Kao Yang called the incident "beyond comprehension," arguing that any country's ground control is able to track and control the movements of its aircraft. Speaking during questioning in the legislature, Kao refused to comment on whether the incident was likely to cause tension in Sino-U.S. ties. But he said if both sides took a hard-line stance, the resulting standoff would likely boost Taiwan's prospects for obtaining advanced weaponry from the United States. He said it was difficult to say whether U.S. arms sales to Taiwan would be positively or negatively affected in the event of an amicable resolution of the collision. Washington will decide in the coming weeks which items on Taiwan's shopping list -- including four destroyers equipped with the state-of-the-art Aegis antimissile radar system -- will get the go-ahead. China is adamantly opposed to the Aegis deal since the destroyers would greatly improve Taiwan's ability to fend off incoming Chinese missiles. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX MONDAY, DECEMBER 06, 1999 23:55:47 ET
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! X DRUDGE REPORT X MONDAY, DECEMBER 06, 1999 23:55:47 ET X Russia, PRC to act jointly to ensure world security-source. BEIJING, December 7 (Itar-Tass) - A high-level source in the Russian delegation, who made preparations for Russian President Boris Yeltsin's trip to the capital of the People's Republic of China (PRC), told Itar-Tass on Tuesday that, following an informal meeting between President Yeltsin and Jiang Zemin, Chairman of the PRC, opening here on December 9, Russia and China intend to act jointly in the efforts to ensure security and stability in the world. The source emphasised that "the leaders of Russia and China are brought together by an exceptionally warm personal relationship". The source drew attention to the fact that the Yeltsin-Jiang meeting will be the Chinese leader's first rendezvous with the top leader of a foreign state on Chinese soil. Until now, Russian and Chinese leaders have had seven meetings, with one of them being informal. END * * * * * Yeltsin, Jiang to hold meetings in Beijing Dec 9-10. MOSCOW, December 6 (Itar-Tass) - Russian President Boris Yeltsin and Chinese President Jiang Zemin will have three or four meetings in Beijing next week, a high-ranking official said. Yeltsin will arrive in Beijing in the first half of the day on December 9 and will fly back home in the afternoon of December 10. Yeltsin and Jiang will have "an opportunity to have a semi- official and completely unofficial conversation". They will discuss ways to enhance coordination between the two countries in the interests of security, the source said. Yeltsin and Jiang plan to discuss "what adequate measures Moscow and Beijing can take in connection with the current international situation which worries both countries." END --- Filed by Matt Drudge **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DRUDGE REPORT: CLINTON COKE WITNESS RELEASED (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- XX DRUDGE REPORT X SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 06, 1999 13:51:09 ET XX ARKANSAS JAILBIRD FREED; CLINTON COKE WITNESS RELEASED BY GOV. Sharlene Wilson -- the talkradio and underground video sensation who tells an incredible tale of using coke with Bill Clinton -- will finally be freed from her jailhouse shackles, it was reported on Saturday! Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee has commuted Wilson's 31-year sentence for delivery of a controlled substance after having served nearly seven years behind bars -- spanning the entire Clinton White House years. The 45-year old AM and shortwave star has spent endless hours doing radio interviews from the solitude of her jail cell, and has also appeared in underground videos telling her amazing story of doing coke with Bill Clinton. In 1994, Wilson told the London SUNDAY TELEGRAPH that she supplied coke to Clinton during his first gubernatorial term, and said: "Bill was so messed up that night, he slid down the wall into a garbage can." Wilson's incredible story even made its way to the United States Supreme Court over the search and seizure procedure used by Arkansas police during her arrest. Wilson was prosecuted by her ex-boyfriend Dan Harmon, who was later convicted himself of five felony charges of racketeering, extortion and drug conspiracy. Arkansas Justice. "I thank all of my supporters and God," Wilson cried during a guest spot last month on talkradio in Los Angeles. "I know what I did was wrong. But the Lord is my witness, and what Bill Clinton did was wrong, and I can prove it. And now I will be free to tell my story!" Will Larry King and Geraldo Rivera, who have repeatedly featured sweet songs from jailbird Susan McDougal on their TV programs, now rush to book Wilson? Or are somethings just too hot to touch? Developing... --- Filed by Matt Drudge Reports are moved when circumstances warrant (c)DRUDGE REPORT 1999 Not for reproduction without permission of the author == Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 1999
-Caveat Lector- X DRUDGE REPORT X WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 1999 19:42:08 ET X PAPER: FBI BLOWS CHINA-NUKE PROBE; WILL START FROM SCRATCH, INTERVIEW 500 POTENTIAL SUSPECTS A three-year FBI investigation of an alleged Chinese spying at Los Alamos National Laboratory has been so mismanaged that the bureau plans to restart the high-profile probe from scratch -- examining more than 500 potential suspects at scores of sites across the country, the LOS ANGELES TIMES is reporting in Thursday runs. "Officials said the FBI will add more agents and other investigative resources in an attempt to jump-start the probe," the paper's Bob Drogin reports. FBI Director Freeh appeared Wednesday in closed-door briefings on The Hill. Drogin reports: "One official who attended a briefing said the original allegation -- that a Chinese spy had penetrated Los Alamos and stolen W-88 secrets for Beijing -- has effectively evaporated." "I think they're basically saying: 'Perhaps this never happened,'" the official tells the paper. "It's like a deer caught in the headlights," the official said of the FBI. "They don't know whether to go forward or backward." The "FBI wasn't initially aware that so many people in so many places had access to W-88 secrets" says the TIMES. Developing... X X X X X NBC BLASTED FOR UPCOMING Y2K SCARE FILM WASHINGTON -- The NBC-TV Network has been hit with stinging criticism over plans to air Y2K -- a two-hour suspense thriller about a trouble-shooter trying to save the world from catastrophic computer disaster -- just weeks before New Year's Eve 1999! "This is one of the most irresponsible things to ever come out of Hollywood!" charged a lawmaker on the Senate Special Committee on the Year 2000 Technology Problem. "Why is NBC doing this? There are going to end up scaring people into a complete panic. Shame, shame, shame on them!" On Wednesday NBC announced plans to air Y2K on November 21, in what is being described as a "Sweeps Event." "As the millenium dawns in North America, most of the Eastern Seaboard suffers a major power outage," NBC said in a press release. "But the worst is yet to come. Nick [a complex systems failure expert consulting the government played by actor Ken Olin] must stay ahead of the unpredictable Y2K bug as it spreads across the United States threatening everyone, including his own family on the West Coast." In NBC's Y2K, the computer bug causes widespread ATM failures -- a plot twist that has one U.S. Senator concerned about real-life bank runs! "After people see this movie, they could get the idea in their head and rush to the bank to get money out -- this could trigger cash problems," said the Senator, who asked not to be identified. In NBC's Y2K -- a nuclear power plant even threatens to go into meltdown. [As long as the radiation spreads to Burbank.] X X X X X ROSS: DON'T TOUCH ME IN THE MORNING! Of course the British press goes headline-wild on Thursday after singermotherproduceractress Diana Ross was arrested at London's Heathrow airport over allegations that she had assaulted a woman security officer who she said touched her breast while frisking her. Page Ones: "TAKE YOUR MITS OFF MY HITS" goes the DAILY STAR. "DON'T TOUCH ME IN THE MORNING" reads the RECORD. "TIT FOR TAT" rats the SUN. "MY HELL" says the MIRROR. "STOP, IN THE NAME OF THE LAW" sings the INDEPENDENT. "I sat in the police room crying my eyes out," Ross told reporters. "I was frightened, absolutely terrified. I felt violated and humiliated." Ross was searched by hand while trying to catch a flight on the Concord when her silver-buckled belt set off a metal detector. Ross: "She touched my breasts twice, and down my back and down my thighs and between my legs." "No one touches my breasts - who do they think they are?" "It was the worst experience of my life. I travel a lot, all over the world, but I've never had this kind of treatment before. My face is swollen I've cried so much," Ross tells the MIRROR. "They wouldn't touch a man's penis, would they?" "I've never been inside a police station before. When I arrived they actually said to me that if any other people were brought into custody they would have to put me in a cell. I really started to cry then. I told them I was frightened and I didn't know what to do. I was taken there without any support and they said to me I could make a call to my family and to my lawyer - but I don't even know a lawyer in London." Ross continues: "They gave me tea. The first cup was hot and burned my tongue. But I was so, so miserable. My face has swollen up because I cried so much." A spokesman for Heathrow Airport security told reporters: "The vast majority of the 60 million passengers who pass through Heathrow understand the airport security procedures. We are required by law to hand search any passenger who activates the metal detector alarms. Occasionally, high- profile celebrities take offence at this procedure." X X X X
[CTRL] DRUDGE REPORT (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- XXX DRUDGE REPORT XXX TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 07, 1999 17:04:22 ET XXX GOVERNMENT INFORMANT IN WACO CASE PROMISED PROTECTION; SAYS FEDS THREATENED HIM, SON **World Exclusive** **Must Credit DRUDGE REPORT** A former CIA agent who claims knowledge of a Delta Force shoot-out at Waco has been promised protection by investigators for a Senate committee after threats were made on the former agent and his son by federal law enforcement officers. The intimidation of the witness occurred last week when FBI agents warned the witness -- face to face -- that he was in violation of his CIA confidentiality oath and could be charged with "risking national security." According to congressional sources, investigators for Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, who heads a Senate Judiciary subcommittee with FBI oversight, have promised protection to former CIA agent Gene Cullen -- if his bona fides check out. [A spokeswoman for Grassley says a vote by the full committee would be required to grant immunity; the process of checking Cullen's story is in the early stages.] Questions have been raised throughout official Washington about the nature of the threats made against the whistleblower and if FBI Director Louis Freeh was directly aware of the intimidation. "I don't know how Waco, Texas could possibly be a threat to 'national security,'" one alarmed congressional chairman told the DRUDGE REPORT. "Cullen was 'politely' reminded that he signed confidentiality papers when he was hired at the CIA," says one source. Cullen has told investigators that he was visited by agents after he granted an interview to the DALLAS MORNING NEWS two weeks ago. Cullen told the paper that he learned from Delta Force commandos that up to 10 members of the secret Army unit were "present, up front and close" in helping the FBI in the final assault on the Branch Davidian compound. But the DRUDGE REPORT has learned that Cullen did not tell the paper everything he knew. In the interview with the NEWS, Cullen stopped short of stating that Delta Force members admitted to him that they were involved in combat at Waco -- information Cullen plans to reveal under oath before Congress! This much is now known: Cullen was served a subpoena by congressional investigators last week. Cullen has moved to a secret location and could not be reached for comment. Cullen has given an interview for the new film, WACO: A NEW REVELATION. On camera, the former CIA agent states: Delta Force members said they participated in a shoot-out during the final assault on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco. FILED BY MATT DRUDGE X X X X X XXX DRUDGE REPORT XXX MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 06, 1999 21:30:00 ET XXX GOVERNMENT INFORMANT: DELTA FORCE INVOLVED IN WACO SHOOT-OUT **World Exclusive** **Must Credit DRUDGE REPORT** WASHINGTON -- A former government officer has told investigators that members of the secret Army unit Delta Force said they participated in a shoot-out during the final assault on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. The witness, according to congressional sources, has already named names -- and will soon offer his account under oath! The development caused panic and confusion at the top levels of the Justice Department and the FBI over the holiday weekend, leaving one top official scrambling for details. FBI Director Freeh has demanded a full briefing, one agency source divulged late Monday. Developing... Meanwhile, congressional investigators are growing convinced that infrared film taken by an FBI surveillance aircraft at 9,000 feet on the final day of the Waco standoff does appear to show U.S. armed forces firing into the church compound. "We are looking at the footage frame-by-frame... most of us have grown convinced that it does show snipers unloading from the rear of a tank," an investigator for the House Government Reform Committee told the DRUDGE REPORT. Former FBI agent Richard Schwein, a supervisor at Waco, said charges of government gunfire were "absolutely false." "False, absolutely false," he said on FOX NEWS SUNDAY. "No FBI agent fired any rounds from their weapons at Waco. There were no Delta Forces or special operations soldiers in an operational capacity at Waco. "And everyone on our side, and the FBI's side, were in armored vehicles, so I don't know how you'd have films of anybody firing into the back of the building. No one was on foot, because we had no body armor that would stop the rounds they were firing." WAIVER WONDER Use of active military personnel against civilians without presidential decree is a violation of federal law. Late last month White House spokesman Joe Lockhart first told reporters that he had no information on the waiver issue. [August 26, 1999; Thursday] Q Joe, why was the Army's Delta Force present on the scene the day that Waco burned? MR. LOCKHART: I would refer you to the Justice Department. I don't have information on the Delta Force one way or the
[CTRL] DRUDGE REPORT (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- XX DRUDGE REPORT X TUESDAY, JULY 27, 1999 20:28:41 ET XX WHITE HOUSE PROPOSES MASSIVE COMPUTER MONITORING SYSTEM; WILL TRACK BANKING, TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND OTHER NETWORKS The Clinton administration has developed a plan for an extensive computer monitoring system, overseen by the FBI, that will track banking, telecommunications and other industries, it will be reported on Wednesday. The National Security Council is conducting a legal and technical review of the new Clinton plan, a final report is scheduled to be made public in September. NEW YORK TIMES reporter John Markoff has been shown a draft, according to publishing sources, and was busy on Tuesday afternoon preparing a story. In some government circles, the proposed system has been nicknamed "Hillary." The plan calls for the development of a "sophisticated software system to monitor activities on non-military government networks" and a separate system to "track all transactions used in the banking, telecommunications and transportation industries." The system is intended to alert law enforcement officials to computer attacks that might cripple governmental or the nation's economy. But it could also become a massive government utility used for surveillance of citizens, critics contend, with great potential for misuse. "Law enforcement agencies obviously would be under great temptation to expand the use of the information in pursuit of suspected criminals," the TIMES will report. The plan has drawn fire from civil libertarians because it blends "civilian and military functions" in protecting the nation's computer networks. Law enforcement agencies would be under great temptation to expand the use of the information in pursuit of suspected criminals. And the plan would put a new and powerful tool into the hands of the FBI. Developing. = Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DRUDGE REPORT '99® I'm so mad, I can't see straight.
-Caveat Lector- Rage on The Hill! http://www.drudgereport.com/matt.htm Bard begin 666 DRUDGE REPORT '99®.url M6TEN=5R;F5T4VAOG1C=71=#0I54DP]:'1T#HO+W=W=RYDG5D9V5R97!O MG0N8V]M+VUA='0N:'1M#0I-;V1I9FEE9#TT,#4W1D-%.$)#-D%"13 Q-C - !"@`` ` end DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DRUDGE REPORT '99® I'm so mad, I can't see straight.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-03-10 01:21:30 EST, you write: http://www.drudgereport.com/matt.htm The Clinton administration and congressional Republicans are now fighting over how much information to make public about China's acquisition of some of the most sensitive U.S. military secrets... MORE... The Senate Intelligence Committee is now negotiating with the Clinton administration over how much can be made public in connection with the probe. Without a compromise, there could be a constitutional clash between Congress and the White House because both the administration and the House have the power to declassify information, says the paper. Why not, just one time, let us hear the whole truth? One Hill source tells Gerth: "It's the National Security Council. leading the fight with the other agencies weighing in. The Energy Department is worried about the stuff at the labs. The intelligence community is worried about disclosing their sources and methods. And the FBI and the Justice Department are concerned about on-going criminal investigations." Notice there is not one word about how this could affect the people of the United States. These agencies are only worried about their privacy, something they took away from every citizen years ago. A government that covers itself in secrecy is a government of lies. Throw the liars out of government and we have no more government... Can we vote on this... Can we force these liars to come clean and tell all the truth... I guess that would be like forcing the President to tell the truth... never happen. Excellent post Bard. Regards, Bob Stokes DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DRUDGE-REPORT-URGENT 02/19/99
-Caveat Lector- On 20 Feb 99, , Liz wrote: -Caveat Lector- Except this wasnt a highschool girfriend-Bubba was a Govt official when this happened--but youre right, basically it was an innocent high-school"hi-jinks" kind of rape-never mind the guy is WAY beyond high school age--hey, whats a lil' gropping between friends, right?Jim Jones: wherever you are in hell, eat your heart out--you may have had 900 slavish followers willing to sip your spiked kool-aid, but bud bill has millions willing to forgive him ANYTHING 20 years must be a long time to wait if your "outraged." Twenty years ago, if you were raped, you had to have gone to an emergency room immediately afterwad for examination and have medical proof of both rape and major assault--bruises, wounds, etc.--before police would even discuss the matter with you. Did Joanna keep her own little blue dress? And if she did, what does this say about the forces circling Clinton, threatening blackmail and extortion for decades? This has nothing whatsoever to do with Jim Jones--who is an entirely different story-- What with the rest of the world proposing Clinton as a nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize, someone just has to keep the nasty waving. My anger and disappointment with Clinton centers primarily on the promises he has not been able to fulfill to the public thanks to a Republican majority with endlessly deep pockets which has its heels set up to the knees.against all reasonable reform. I'm not saying it was right. That's just how it was. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DRUDGE-REPORT-URGENT 02/19/99
-Caveat Lector- Except this wasnt a highschool girfriend-Bubba was a Govt official when this happened--but youre right, basically it was an innocent high-school"hi-jinks" kind of rape-never mind the guy is WAY beyond high school age--hey, whats a lil' gropping between friends, right?Jim Jones: wherever you are in hell, eat your heart out--you may have had 900 slavish followers willing to sip your spiked kool-aid, but bud bill has millions willing to forgive him ANYTHING DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Mr. Stokes, The gentleman claimed that Warren Harding was a great man. Since he made the claim I was only asking why he believed it to be true. Not an unreasonable request. Since you're posting on Harding...please be forthcoming. What information can you shed on the subject? None, I guess. Then, you shift over to the subject of President Clinton.. First off, he is not my hero. He wasn't my first choice. I wanted someone who would address the collapse of American manufacturing and stop our slide into globalism. Clinton is really a product of the DNC, a group that has a strong corporate/globalist orientation interested in pushing through NAFTA and GATT, two trade measures I opposed. So, I'm not happy with him. I'm an economic nationalist. Since you seem to be free with the term, "traitor," I think it is just short of treasonous for American corporations to continue using slave labor around the world, close down plants in America, open up operations in hellholes around the world, then bring their shoddy, slave-labor products back into the US to sell them at inflated prices. That is irresponsible and in my book, because they are undercutting the economic well-being of working families here in the United States. This policy of globalization has been pushed by both political parties (Republicans champion it as well as Democrats). Clinton is just continuing the policies of his predecessors (going back to Nixon--a Republican president--who championed an open door policy to China.) Of course, I believe that we need to develop peaceful trading policies with other countries..but not at the expense of our own people. On this point, we have serious philosophical differences. I believe that everyone--both labor and the business sector must pursue policies that further the common good--by that I mean, they should pursue economic policies that further the best interests of their own country. We could learn from the Japanese on this point. The Japanese business class does not impoverish their own workers in order to make a quick buck like we will do. They are profoundly patriotic. They're not interested in undercutting the economic well-being of their own people. Nor do they craft trade policies that are in the worst interests of their own fellow citizens. As a result, they don't have the kind of rancorous class divisions we have here... Of course, the analogy falls apart when you consider that they are a homogeneous society...without the racial/ethnic/religious/ divisions.. but their professional elites (the most privileged members of their system) do not seek to impoverish their own citizens. Examples: Nike, Boeing, General Electric, General Motors,...a long list of manufacturers, food producers, etc. From my own personal experience in my former community of Mayfield, Kentucky...three manufacturing industries were closed up and moved overseas (Dillon Manufacturing, Mary-Nell and a boot company whose name I've forgotten). You called President Clinton a "traitor." Walk the walk yourself, sir. Be specific. The sale of missile technology to the Chinese? I agree with you. That was a disastrous policy...but those technology transfers originated in the Bush administration, an administration that has had an interest in promoting closer ties with China. So, all Clinton has been doing is carrying out the foreign policy measures of his Republican predecessors... Personally, I think it is a mistake to share technology with the Chinese. But since both the Republican and Democratic administrations have approved these sales...they were reviewed by the NSA and the State Department as not posing a threat to the security of the United States...I don't think it can be considered a "treasonous" act. Unless you want to argue that President Bush was a traitor to the country as well. Presidential accomplishments? As a Democratic President, he hasn't done much. I would agree. In fact, he has more or less kept the nation on the same foreign policy course that the Republican party has wanted. Both Republicans and Democrats want a stable world order with Wall Street and London banks at the helm. (a policy which involves giving lip service to domestic problems here at home, while they carry out the bidding of their corporate masters..) Since the policy of globalization continues forward..Republicans are happy because it means an expansion of business abroad. Labor unions are pretty much kept in check... The minority community is pacified with token representation...and there is some token appearance of political representation for the nation's working people. Maybe your particular political agenda isn't advanced (whatever that might be), but for the most part, he has managed to keep up the illusion that the nation isn't falling to pieces...that we can continue to run these trade deficits without wrecking the economy...and that working people will remain passive. So far, the formula has
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-Caveat Lector- Mr. Norman, I agree with you that we should do away with the electoral college system. Regards, William On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Jim Norman wrote: -Caveat Lector- Mr. Tun stall, I agree with the majority of this post. My only criticism is the "vote him out of office" comment. I have done some research in this area and can find no reference in the US Code, or Florida Statutes that allows for the common man like you and me to vote for the President or V-President of the United States. OH, I know we have the popular vote and all that but, it has no force at law. If any law is passed in the several states that would permit Citizens to vote, it would be illegal since all laws not following the constitution are non laws. The election of the Pres/V-Pres. is outlined in the constitution and all State laws have to conform. Kind Regards Jim Norman William Hugh Tunstall wrote: -Caveat Lector- Mr. Stokes, The gentleman claimed that Warren Harding was a great man. Since he made the claim I was only asking why he believed it to be true. Not an unreasonable request. Since you're posting on Harding...please be forthcoming. What information can you shed on the subject? None, I guess. Then, you shift over to the subject of President Clinton.. First off, he is not my hero. He wasn't my first choice. I wanted someone who would address the collapse of American manufacturing and stop our slide into globalism. Clinton is really a product of the DNC, a group that has a strong corporate/globalist orientation interested in pushing through NAFTA and GATT, two trade measures I opposed. So, I'm not happy with him. I'm an economic nationalist. Since you seem to be free with the term, "traitor," I think it is just short of treasonous for American corporations to continue using slave labor around the world, close down plants in America, open up operations in hellholes around the world, then bring their shoddy, slave-labor products back into the US to sell them at inflated prices. That is irresponsible and in my book, because they are undercutting the economic well-being of working families here in the United States. This policy of globalization has been pushed by both political parties (Republicans champion it as well as Democrats). Clinton is just continuing the policies of his predecessors (going back to Nixon--a Republican president--who championed an open door policy to China.) Of course, I believe that we need to develop peaceful trading policies with other countries..but not at the expense of our own people. On this point, we have serious philosophical differences. I believe that everyone--both labor and the business sector must pursue policies that further the common good--by that I mean, they should pursue economic policies that further the best interests of their own country. We could learn from the Japanese on this point. The Japanese business class does not impoverish their own workers in order to make a quick buck like we will do. They are profoundly patriotic. They're not interested in undercutting the economic well-being of their own people. Nor do they craft trade policies that are in the worst interests of their own fellow citizens. As a result, they don't have the kind of rancorous class divisions we have here... Of course, the analogy falls apart when you consider that they are a homogeneous society...without the racial/ethnic/religious/ divisions.. but their professional elites (the most privileged members of their system) do not seek to impoverish their own citizens. Examples: Nike, Boeing, General Electric, General Motors,...a long list of manufacturers, food producers, etc. From my own personal experience in my former community of Mayfield, Kentucky...three manufacturing industries were closed up and moved overseas (Dillon Manufacturing, Mary-Nell and a boot company whose name I've forgotten). You called President Clinton a "traitor." Walk the walk yourself, sir. Be specific. The sale of missile technology to the Chinese? I agree with you. That was a disastrous policy...but those technology transfers originated in the Bush administration, an administration that has had an interest in promoting closer ties with China. So, all Clinton has been doing is carrying out the foreign policy measures of his Republican predecessors... Personally, I think it is a mistake to share technology with the Chinese. But since both the Republican and Democratic administrations have approved these sales...they were reviewed by the NSA and the State Department as not posing a threat to the security of the United States...I don't think it can be considered a "treasonous" act. Unless you want to argue that President Bush was a traitor to the country as well. Presidential accomplishments? As a Democratic President, he hasn't done
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-01-10 01:07:10 EST, you write: The gentleman claimed that Warren Harding was a great man. Since he made the claim I was only asking why he believed it to be true. Not an unreasonable request. Since you're posting on Harding...please be forthcoming. What information can you shed on the subject? None, I guess. Then, you shift over to the subject of President Clinton.. I have no interest in Harding... long dead, long forgotten. It was you Clintonites who keep shifting from Clinton to the evil Republicans, never answering any of my posts with substance or even common sense. You support this criminal in the White House even though he has done nothing worth supporting. This is only a Clintonite tactic... this shifting of the subject... something the Clintonites know well... a subtle form of mind control and like the President... avoiding the issue. First off, he is not my hero. He wasn't my first choice. I wanted someone who would address the collapse of American manufacturing and stop our slide into globalism. Clinton is really a product of the DNC, a group that has a strong corporate/globalist orientation interested in pushing through NAFTA and GATT, two trade measures I opposed. So, I'm not happy with him. The way you defend Clinton, you leave the impression that you respect/like him as President in many of your former posts. Democrats/Republicans are the same, they both voted for NAFTA and GATT. Both parties receive money (bribes) from big business (the rich) and pass legislation. Clinton is also pushing for "fast-track" authority on MAI... that issue isn't dead yet. I'm an economic nationalist. Since you seem to be free with the term, "traitor," I think it is just short of treasonous for American corporations to continue using slave labor around the world, close down plants in America, open up operations in hellholes around the world, then bring their shoddy, slave-labor products back into the US to sell them at inflated prices. That is irresponsible and in my book, because they are undercutting the economic well-being of working families here in the United States. This policy of globalization has been pushed by both political parties (Republicans champion it as well as Democrats). Clinton is just continuing the policies of his predecessors (going back to Nixon--a Republican president--who championed an open door policy to China.) Of course, I believe that we need to develop peaceful trading policies with other countries..but not at the expense of our own people. On this point, we have serious philosophical differences. I believe that everyone--both labor and the business sector must pursue policies that further the common good--by that I mean, they should pursue economic policies that further the best interests of their own country. We could learn from the Japanese on this point. The Japanese business class does not impoverish their own workers in order to make a quick buck like we will do. They are profoundly patriotic. They're not interested in undercutting the economic well-being of their own people. Nor do they craft trade policies that are in the worst interests of their own fellow citizens. As a result, they don't have the kind of rancorous class divisions we have here... Of course, the analogy falls apart when you consider that they are a homogeneous society...without the racial/ethnic/religious/ divisions.. but their professional elites (the most privileged members of their system) do not seek to impoverish their own citizens. Examples: Nike, Boeing, General Electric, General Motors,...a long list of manufacturers, food producers, etc. From my own personal experience in my former community of Mayfield, Kentucky...three manufacturing industries were closed up and moved overseas (Dillon Manufacturing, Mary-Nell and a boot company whose name I've forgotten). I agree with all you have said about American corporations, that is, the large corporations, most of which are multinational. Corporations run the government, they vote with their money to get special acts to benefit themselves. Perhaps the real criminals are the CEOs, presidents and board of directors who sit on many different companies and use the stockholders money to advance their own private bank accounts by stock buybacks, political contributions, contributions to colleges, trusts, and other tax free "benevolent" organisations. The Japanese do have the advantage of being almost one race. Their laws are based more on what is right for the country rather than what is right for the minorities. Japan does have a small minority of Chinese and Koreans living there, but they are not given any special privileges as are minorities in this country. I base these observations on my living in Japan from 1974 - 1978, things may have changed some since then. You called President Clinton a "traitor." Walk the walk yourself,
Re: [CTRL] DRUDGE-REPORT-EXCLUSIVE 01/10/99
-Caveat Lector- On 10 Jan 99, , DRUDGE wrote: X DRUDGE REPORT X 01/10/99 07:08 UTC X WHITE HOUSE DNA CHASE: TEEN DOING 'WELL' AFTER NEWS OF 'NO MATCH' **Exclusive** He had been told all of his life by his mother that Bill Clinton was his father, but late this week, 13-year old Danny Williams of Arkansas learned the truth: He is not. Just goes to show you that if you've got "friends" like Dick Morris, you don't need enemies. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-01-05 12:12:29 EST, you write: Since you admire Mr. Harding, would you please share with us some of the great man's accomplishments? What exactly did Warren do? How did President Harding revolutionize and transform American society? In 1999, do we speak of "the Harding vision" or "the Harding effect"? (Did he pull the nation out of a depression? Did he fight for the protection of the civil liberties of all Americans? Did he build a national highway system? Was he witty? wise? profound? Perhaps, we need a book devoted to him: "The Wit and Wisdom of President Warren Harding." But I don't mean to be unkind. He must have done something memorable. Or perhaps his special genius, like so many Republicans, was in the NOT-DOING. Regards, Wm Sounds a lot like Clinton except Clinton doesn't know how to definr the word "IS" and Clinton is a traitor. Seems to me I have asked these same questions about your King... Clinton... what has this low-life done that is so spectacular??? Still waiting for an answer from the Clintonites. But, I don't mean to be unkind... just truthful, I'm not like youe lying hero Clinton. No Regards, To those who can't "walk the walk" Bob Stokes DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/3/99 10:23:03 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: snip This is the total corruption of journalism and does not relate to "news." It is the very core of character assassination--whether it has to do with Richard Jewel or Bill Clinton or whoever. And this group is suspect for being titillated by this kind of garbage. Let Drudge wait until the DNA test comes through. Only then is there a story.or no story at all. SnoOwl, I agree with your thought, unfortunatly that is the way the media has worked since the founding of the country. You may recall the one President in the 1800s (Warren Harding?) who had an son out of wed lock. The newspapers and political oposition hounded the President who was up for reelection as I recall from my history with a number of things any of which was equivilant to the current political climate. One of the more humorous was the newspaper cartoons which showed a boy chanting: "Ma, Ma, Where's my Pa? After the President won reelection, it was leaked out from the White House "He went to the White House Ha, Ha, Ha. Cheers, Robert DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may recall the one President in the 1800s (Warren Harding?) who had an son out of wed lock. The newspapers and political oposition hounded the President who was up for reelection as I recall from my history with a number of things any of which was equivilant to the current political climate. One of the more humorous was the newspaper cartoons which showed a boy chanting: "Ma, Ma, Where's my Pa? After the President won reelection, it was leaked out from the White House "He went to the White House Ha, Ha, Ha. Warren Harding does not fit with the rest of the story, though it was claimed that he had a child out of wedlock. Harding was president in 1921-3 and died in office. I consider him one of the best presidents of the 20th century. The president you seem to be referring to was Grover Cleveland 1885-1889 and 1893-1897. best wishes, Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 5 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with your thought, unfortunatly that is the way the media has worked since the founding of the country. You may recall the one President in the 1800s (Warren Harding?) Harding was elected in 1920, I believe...but your correct in your statement that there was discussion of an illegitimate child...along with a lot of OTHER shenanigans... The 19th century political scene was pretty wild and woolly, makes what we see today look pretty tame... The really bitter battle that took place in the 1800's, which may be the one you're thinking of, involved I believe Tyler (but don't hold me to it, it could have been some other president) who was accused of being married to two women at the same time, with two sets of children... I don't think it was ever proven that the allegations were untrue... cartoons which showed a boy chanting: "Ma, Ma, Where's my Pa? After the President won reelection, it was leaked out from the White House "He went to the White House Ha, Ha, Ha. Yeah, that cartoon was drawn regarding the supposedly bigamous president...it was run by the opposition during the reelection campaign, and showed the kid asking "Ma, Ma, where's my Pa?" with the answer shown "He's gone to the White House, ha, ha, ha!"... June === The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year, Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear. -- Wm. Cullen Bryant: The Death of the Flowers === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Drudge Report
The absolute nastiness of this sort of stuff is that Drudge and his like know that it doesn't matter if the story is true or not. The story will stick in the public mind and no one will pay much attention to the refutation--if and when it comes. This is the total corruption of journalism and does not relate to "news." It is the very core of character assassination--whether it has to do with Richard Jewel or Bill Clinton or whoever. And this group is suspect for being titillated by this kind of garbage. Let Drudge wait until the DNA test comes through. Only then is there a story.or no story at all. The name of Drudge's story is "The Humiliation of the U.S. President." No one deserves to be treated this way in the press. Even Larry Flynt knows better. sno0wl
[CTRL] DRUDGE REPORT: CHINESE CAMPAIGN MONEY
-Caveat Lector- DRUDGE REPORT 12/14/98 23:52:07 PM UTC NEW YORK TIMES EXPLOSION: ILLEGAL CHINESE CAMPAIGN MONEY WAS USED TO GET U.S. TECH After a two-year investigation of Chinese political contributions to the 1996 election, federal authorities have unearthed new evidence that Beijing's efforts were part of a broader campaign to obtain access to American high technology, the NEW YORK TIMES is set to report in Tuesday editions, a prerelease was obtained by the DRUDGE REPORT late Monday afternoon. TIMES hotshots Jeff Gerth, David Johnston and Don Van Natta blow hard in a planned Page One Exclusive that will jolt Washington on the eve of the historic impeachment vote: "Investigators and officials said their new view of China's motivations was based on inference and evidence that includes bank records, intercepted telephone calls and statements by witnesses." "Gerth is completely unloading," one publishing source tells the DRUDGE REPORT. "Huang, Trie, Liu." One of most intriguing new pieces of evidence the TIMES is set to report on involves Charlie Trie, who served on a presidential commission on Asian trade policy. "Trie is said to have met in Beijing with Chinese contacts and asked for $1 million that could be used for political activities in the United States." There is also new information about John Huang, a former Commerce Department official who became a leading fundraiser for the Democratic Party. "Huang worked as a banker in Los Angeles before joining the Clinton Administration. Huang was overheard by government surveillance discussing political donations with a Chinese official at the Los Angeles consulate. Details of his conversation could not be learned. Huang subsequently joined the Commerce Department as a mid-level trade official. [There] Huang obtained at least one secret government report on exports of military-related technology to China, which he kept in his office safe." Developing Late... X X X X X "I know you believe you understand what you think I said; however I don't think you realize that what I think you heard is not what I meant." More trinkets than the 1996 Olympics. Fewer lines than the Goodwill Games ESPN gear, SportsCenter gear, NBA NHL MLB NCAA NFL gear, Memorabilia http://ads.egroups.com/click/146/1 Free Web-based e-mail groups -- http://www.eGroups.com []===[] "Go for goats, Bill. They don't talk." Yasser Arafat http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet. Subscribe to Reality Pump: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 []===[] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
