Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy

2000-08-18 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Discussing what Jews believe is racist. All Jews do not believe the same
 thing. Some Jews believe one thing and other Jews believe something else.
 This is also true of Poles, Thais, Ashantis, Australians, students,
 grandmothers, truck drivers, red heads, right handed people and people
 wearing hats. Jews are individuals. All individuals are capable of
 independent thought. This is even true of people on this list.

 Now THIS sounds like a liberal.

 There is no Jewish dogma about Hell or Satan.

Again, Satan is not an invention of Christian theology.  Satan and hell are mentioned 
in the OT.  Therefore
he/it IS a construct of Judaic theology.

And in answer to Nessie's contention, talking about what Jews believe when discussing 
issues of theology is no
more racist than discussing what Christians, Moslems, Hindus, Buddhists, Animists, or 
Wiccans believe.


June

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Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy

2000-08-18 Thread Eagle 1

Hi June,
I still want to know who would put out something like that website and what
is the purpose to be accomplished?

I have to ask the same question, regarding Satan,  and also I've read some
information regarding the use of the word Satan,  which means an opponent;
attacker; adversary; and culmutively:  ''the accuser''...  as being the
prosecuting attorney in a court of law.  'Accuser' seems to be the main idea
behind the use of the word.

But I am curious as to why Jews would not believe in Satan.  The use of the
word occurs chronologically first in the O.T. in 1-Chronicles 21:1; it
appears 14 times in Job; then once in Psalm 109:6; and lastly in the O.T. in
Zechariah 3:1-2 .

The word is used 35 times in the N.T.

eagle 1


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 From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Jews don't even believe in Satan.

 I agree it's racist bullshit...

 But I question the statement that Jews don't believe in Satan, because
Satan isn't a New Testament
 invention


 June








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Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy

2000-08-18 Thread Eagle 1

Nessie,
Just for the record,  I did not ask my question with even a shred of racism
in mind.  I'm just curious that if the writer(s) of the O.T. would use the
word 'Satan',  and it's written primarily in Hebrew,  the original language
of the Jews,  and the rest of the Hebrews,  then I was, as stated just
curious,  to learn the foundation use of the word.

Again, reiterating that I had no thoughts of racism in mind at the time of
the question.

eagle 1

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
 But I question the statement that Jews don't believe in Satan



 Discussing what Jews believe is racist. All Jews do not believe the same
 thing. Some Jews believe one thing and other Jews believe something else.
 This is also true of Poles, Thais, Ashantis, Australians, students,
 grandmothers, truck drivers, red heads, right handed people and people
 wearing hats. Jews are individuals. All individuals are capable of
 independent thought. This is even true of people on this list.




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Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy

2000-08-18 Thread nessie

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
But I am curious as to why Jews would not believe in Satan.



Many Jews are atheists. In America, less than half of all Jews are
observant. It is inaccurate and misleading to confuse the religion with
the People as a whole.  Some are religious and some aren't.  Even among
observant Jews there is dissension about what is and is not valid dogma.
In this they resemble Christians, Muslims, Buddhists and Communists. It
gets even more confusing when you factor in that a person can convert to
the religion without having been born into the culture. Then there's the
whole matter of the Samaritans.

But as confusing as all this is, we must be specific and exact when we
talk about "what Jews  believe" or else we're talking nonsense.

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Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy

2000-08-16 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

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 Jews don't even believe in Satan.

I agree it's racist bullshit...

But I question the statement that Jews don't believe in Satan, because Satan isn't a 
New Testament
invention


June

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Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy

2000-08-16 Thread nessie

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
But I question the statement that Jews don't believe in Satan



Discussing what Jews believe is racist. All Jews do not believe the same
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Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy

2000-08-16 Thread Nurev Ind Research

Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:

 From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Jews don't even believe in Satan.

 I agree it's racist bullshit...

 But I question the statement that Jews don't believe in Satan, because Satan
 isn't a New Testament
 invention

 June

Satan is based on older mythological characters. Possibly from the Mystery
Cults, but almost certainly on any of the Dualistic superstitions which had
existed prior to the growth of Pagan Christianity. There was never a Satan in
the Jewish Jesus movement from which Pagan Christianity split off.

Jews believe in an ' evil urge ' and a ' good urge ' but that's as far as it
goes. Satan is a necessary part of Christian dogma for the following reason.
If you believe in a god who is all good, then how do you account for all the
evil in the world? You must also invent an equally powerful god of evil to
account for the horrors which existed in the pre modern era. And to this, I
would add that it makes for a story of high drama. Good verses Evil. Sons of
Light vs. Sons of Bitches. You know.

This has great appeal for the feeble minded because dualism is the SIMPLEST
FORM OF COMPLEXITY. Which is about all that most of the ancients could handle.
They were not educated at all and lived in a world of vibrant superstition.
Not unlike Christian Identity, and some of the more primitive Protestant sects
which still exist today.

But Jews don't believe in Satan or Hell. They do believe in afterlife which
rewards the good and punishes the bad. And when Jews die, they all move to
Beverly Hills and get to hang with Sammy Davis Jr..

Joshua2

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[CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy

2000-08-15 Thread Eagle 1



Can't say I know quite what to think about this 
link.
It could be an illuminati double reverse disinformation site...
but then again, it could be true... regardless, true or 
false... 
it's shocking.

The Jewish Conspiracy FAQ
A primer for the hapless goyim
http://www.netaxs.com/~balpert/jewfaq.html
What the Talmud tells us: a blueprint for Conspiracy



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Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy

2000-08-15 Thread Mark McHugh

 Eagle 1 wrote:

 Can't say I know quite what to think about this link.
 It could be an illuminati double reverse disinformation site...
 but then again,  it could be true...  regardless, true or false...
 it's shocking.

 The Jewish Conspiracy FAQ
 A primer for the hapless goyim
 http://www.netaxs.com/~balpert/jewfaq.html
 What the Talmud tells us: a blueprint for Conspiracy



 eagle 1

This guy likes to fuck with Jewhaters all the time on various Usenet newsgroups.

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Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy

2000-08-15 Thread Eagle 1

Ok,  thanks,  Mark,
(tho' the explicitive "f" word was not necessary).

WHO?  then,  puts this stuff out?
This came from a very reliable source to me...
I'm absolutely *not*  promoting it,
but want to know it's roots.

Thanks,
eagle 1


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  Eagle 1 wrote:
 
  Can't say I know quite what to think about this link.
  It could be an illuminati double reverse disinformation site...
  but then again,  it could be true...  regardless, true or false...
  it's shocking.
 
  The Jewish Conspiracy FAQ
  A primer for the hapless goyim
  http://www.netaxs.com/~balpert/jewfaq.html
  What the Talmud tells us: a blueprint for Conspiracy
 
 
 
  eagle 1

 This guy likes to fuck with Jewhaters all the time on various Usenet
newsgroups.

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Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy

2000-08-15 Thread Nurev Ind Research
ken by the IJC in the United States in dealing with the
ary*n/white race, as that has been the author's area of endeavor and
expertise within the Conspiracy itself. There are certainly many more
fascinating and important aspects of the IJC worthy of discussion, both in
the U.S. and abroad. However these are currently beyond the scope of this
document.

Another limitation is that due to time constraints (the author is still very
much involved in day-to-day IJC activities), at present only a very general
overview of sweeping events and policies can be given. Details will be
filled in as time permits.

The latest version of this FAQ may be found at:

http://www.netaxs.com/~balpert/jewfaq.html

Sections added or modified from the previous version are indicated by
prefacing the new text with a vertical bar ("|") in the ASCII edition of the
FAQ, and by bold text and  or  flags in the web edition.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

The editor and primary author of this FAQ -- the Jew, Robert Alpert -- has
accumulated over 30 years of active experience in the IJC. An avowed enemy
of the ary*n race, Mr. Alpert has successfully infiltrated a number of ary*n
organizations during that time, working from within to secure much vital
intelligence while at the same time subverting their plans and actions.




   Photos of the author during the time of his undercover work inside ary*n
   organizations.  (Brass Cross is the award referenced in the FAQ text.)



So successful was he in being accepted as white, in the 1970s a noted ary*n
leader of the time presented him with the "Brass Cross" as recognition for
Alpert's "tireless service and devotion to the cause of the white race."
(Both the organization and leader are currently defunct.) Alpert wears this
award to this day as a symbol of supremacy and victory over the ary*n race.

WHAT ARE JEWS?

1. Where do Jews come from?

 We Jews are the proud children of our Lord and
 Creator, Satan Himself. This being the case, we have
 been endowed with certain powers and abilities far
 superior to those of the inferior "goyim." (This
 terminology is explored later in this document.) Our
 Satanic heritage gives rise to physical and religious
 characteristics unique to our race.

 For example, all Jews are born with vestigial horns.
 (These can be seen in any non-retouched Jewish X-Ray.)
 In female children, the horns never break the scalp
and therefore require little attention. However, in male children the horns
break through within several days.

The primary purpose of the "briss" ceremony (performed on newborn Jewish
males) is to remove these horns and "normalize" the scalp. (The circumcision
is a secondary objective and serves to draw attention away from the true
purpose of the ceremony.) Bereft of visible horns, many Jews pass amongst
ary*ns without ever being noticed. (Since they are removed so early in life,
there is virtually no visible scarring. However, if one looks closely at
some balding Jewish men, one can faintly make out the markings.)


 Eagle 1 wrote:

 Ok,  thanks,  Mark,
 (tho' the explicitive "f" word was not necessary).

 WHO?  then,  puts this stuff out?
 This came from a very reliable source to me...
 I'm absolutely *not*  promoting it,
 but want to know it's roots.

 Thanks,
 eagle 1

 - Original Message -
 From: "Mark McHugh" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 4:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy

   Eagle 1 wrote:
  
   Can't say I know quite what to think about this link.
   It could be an illuminati double reverse disinformation site...
   but then again,  it could be true...  regardless, true or false...
   it's shocking.
  
   The Jewish Conspiracy FAQ
   A primer for the hapless goyim
   http://www.netaxs.com/~balpert/jewfaq.html
   What the Talmud tells us: a blueprint for Conspiracy
  
  
  
   eagle 1
 
  This guy likes to fuck with Jewhaters all the time on various Usenet
 newsgroups.
 
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