Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy
From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Discussing what Jews believe is racist. All Jews do not believe the same thing. Some Jews believe one thing and other Jews believe something else. This is also true of Poles, Thais, Ashantis, Australians, students, grandmothers, truck drivers, red heads, right handed people and people wearing hats. Jews are individuals. All individuals are capable of independent thought. This is even true of people on this list. Now THIS sounds like a liberal. There is no Jewish dogma about Hell or Satan. Again, Satan is not an invention of Christian theology. Satan and hell are mentioned in the OT. Therefore he/it IS a construct of Judaic theology. And in answer to Nessie's contention, talking about what Jews believe when discussing issues of theology is no more racist than discussing what Christians, Moslems, Hindus, Buddhists, Animists, or Wiccans believe. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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Hi June, I still want to know who would put out something like that website and what is the purpose to be accomplished? I have to ask the same question, regarding Satan, and also I've read some information regarding the use of the word Satan, which means an opponent; attacker; adversary; and culmutively: ''the accuser''... as being the prosecuting attorney in a court of law. 'Accuser' seems to be the main idea behind the use of the word. But I am curious as to why Jews would not believe in Satan. The use of the word occurs chronologically first in the O.T. in 1-Chronicles 21:1; it appears 14 times in Job; then once in Psalm 109:6; and lastly in the O.T. in Zechariah 3:1-2 . The word is used 35 times in the N.T. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 5:52 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jews don't even believe in Satan. I agree it's racist bullshit... But I question the statement that Jews don't believe in Satan, because Satan isn't a New Testament invention June . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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Nessie, Just for the record, I did not ask my question with even a shred of racism in mind. I'm just curious that if the writer(s) of the O.T. would use the word 'Satan', and it's written primarily in Hebrew, the original language of the Jews, and the rest of the Hebrews, then I was, as stated just curious, to learn the foundation use of the word. Again, reiterating that I had no thoughts of racism in mind at the time of the question. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: But I question the statement that Jews don't believe in Satan Discussing what Jews believe is racist. All Jews do not believe the same thing. Some Jews believe one thing and other Jews believe something else. This is also true of Poles, Thais, Ashantis, Australians, students, grandmothers, truck drivers, red heads, right handed people and people wearing hats. Jews are individuals. All individuals are capable of independent thought. This is even true of people on this list. . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: But I am curious as to why Jews would not believe in Satan. Many Jews are atheists. In America, less than half of all Jews are observant. It is inaccurate and misleading to confuse the religion with the People as a whole. Some are religious and some aren't. Even among observant Jews there is dissension about what is and is not valid dogma. In this they resemble Christians, Muslims, Buddhists and Communists. It gets even more confusing when you factor in that a person can convert to the religion without having been born into the culture. Then there's the whole matter of the Samaritans. But as confusing as all this is, we must be specific and exact when we talk about "what Jews believe" or else we're talking nonsense. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jews don't even believe in Satan. I agree it's racist bullshit... But I question the statement that Jews don't believe in Satan, because Satan isn't a New Testament invention June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: But I question the statement that Jews don't believe in Satan Discussing what Jews believe is racist. All Jews do not believe the same thing. Some Jews believe one thing and other Jews believe something else. This is also true of Poles, Thais, Ashantis, Australians, students, grandmothers, truck drivers, red heads, right handed people and people wearing hats. Jews are individuals. All individuals are capable of independent thought. This is even true of people on this list. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote: From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jews don't even believe in Satan. I agree it's racist bullshit... But I question the statement that Jews don't believe in Satan, because Satan isn't a New Testament invention June Satan is based on older mythological characters. Possibly from the Mystery Cults, but almost certainly on any of the Dualistic superstitions which had existed prior to the growth of Pagan Christianity. There was never a Satan in the Jewish Jesus movement from which Pagan Christianity split off. Jews believe in an ' evil urge ' and a ' good urge ' but that's as far as it goes. Satan is a necessary part of Christian dogma for the following reason. If you believe in a god who is all good, then how do you account for all the evil in the world? You must also invent an equally powerful god of evil to account for the horrors which existed in the pre modern era. And to this, I would add that it makes for a story of high drama. Good verses Evil. Sons of Light vs. Sons of Bitches. You know. This has great appeal for the feeble minded because dualism is the SIMPLEST FORM OF COMPLEXITY. Which is about all that most of the ancients could handle. They were not educated at all and lived in a world of vibrant superstition. Not unlike Christian Identity, and some of the more primitive Protestant sects which still exist today. But Jews don't believe in Satan or Hell. They do believe in afterlife which rewards the good and punishes the bad. And when Jews die, they all move to Beverly Hills and get to hang with Sammy Davis Jr.. Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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Can't say I know quite what to think about this link. It could be an illuminati double reverse disinformation site... but then again, it could be true... regardless, true or false... it's shocking. The Jewish Conspiracy FAQ A primer for the hapless goyim http://www.netaxs.com/~balpert/jewfaq.html What the Talmud tells us: a blueprint for Conspiracy eagle 1 . Visit the Eagle 1 Observer"Observing the World Around You"http://www.crayon.net/read.cgi?[EMAIL PROTECTED] " I believe that every individual is naturally entitled to do ashe pleases with himself and the fruits of his labor, so far asit in no way interferes with any other men's rights." - Abraham Lincoln .
Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy
Eagle 1 wrote: Can't say I know quite what to think about this link. It could be an illuminati double reverse disinformation site... but then again, it could be true... regardless, true or false... it's shocking. The Jewish Conspiracy FAQ A primer for the hapless goyim http://www.netaxs.com/~balpert/jewfaq.html What the Talmud tells us: a blueprint for Conspiracy eagle 1 This guy likes to fuck with Jewhaters all the time on various Usenet newsgroups. -- ´´ Mark McHugh A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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Ok, thanks, Mark, (tho' the explicitive "f" word was not necessary). WHO? then, puts this stuff out? This came from a very reliable source to me... I'm absolutely *not* promoting it, but want to know it's roots. Thanks, eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Mark McHugh" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy Eagle 1 wrote: Can't say I know quite what to think about this link. It could be an illuminati double reverse disinformation site... but then again, it could be true... regardless, true or false... it's shocking. The Jewish Conspiracy FAQ A primer for the hapless goyim http://www.netaxs.com/~balpert/jewfaq.html What the Talmud tells us: a blueprint for Conspiracy eagle 1 This guy likes to fuck with Jewhaters all the time on various Usenet newsgroups. -- ´´ Mark McHugh . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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ken by the IJC in the United States in dealing with the ary*n/white race, as that has been the author's area of endeavor and expertise within the Conspiracy itself. There are certainly many more fascinating and important aspects of the IJC worthy of discussion, both in the U.S. and abroad. However these are currently beyond the scope of this document. Another limitation is that due to time constraints (the author is still very much involved in day-to-day IJC activities), at present only a very general overview of sweeping events and policies can be given. Details will be filled in as time permits. The latest version of this FAQ may be found at: http://www.netaxs.com/~balpert/jewfaq.html Sections added or modified from the previous version are indicated by prefacing the new text with a vertical bar ("|") in the ASCII edition of the FAQ, and by bold text and or flags in the web edition. ABOUT THE AUTHOR The editor and primary author of this FAQ -- the Jew, Robert Alpert -- has accumulated over 30 years of active experience in the IJC. An avowed enemy of the ary*n race, Mr. Alpert has successfully infiltrated a number of ary*n organizations during that time, working from within to secure much vital intelligence while at the same time subverting their plans and actions. Photos of the author during the time of his undercover work inside ary*n organizations. (Brass Cross is the award referenced in the FAQ text.) So successful was he in being accepted as white, in the 1970s a noted ary*n leader of the time presented him with the "Brass Cross" as recognition for Alpert's "tireless service and devotion to the cause of the white race." (Both the organization and leader are currently defunct.) Alpert wears this award to this day as a symbol of supremacy and victory over the ary*n race. WHAT ARE JEWS? 1. Where do Jews come from? We Jews are the proud children of our Lord and Creator, Satan Himself. This being the case, we have been endowed with certain powers and abilities far superior to those of the inferior "goyim." (This terminology is explored later in this document.) Our Satanic heritage gives rise to physical and religious characteristics unique to our race. For example, all Jews are born with vestigial horns. (These can be seen in any non-retouched Jewish X-Ray.) In female children, the horns never break the scalp and therefore require little attention. However, in male children the horns break through within several days. The primary purpose of the "briss" ceremony (performed on newborn Jewish males) is to remove these horns and "normalize" the scalp. (The circumcision is a secondary objective and serves to draw attention away from the true purpose of the ceremony.) Bereft of visible horns, many Jews pass amongst ary*ns without ever being noticed. (Since they are removed so early in life, there is virtually no visible scarring. However, if one looks closely at some balding Jewish men, one can faintly make out the markings.) Eagle 1 wrote: Ok, thanks, Mark, (tho' the explicitive "f" word was not necessary). WHO? then, puts this stuff out? This came from a very reliable source to me... I'm absolutely *not* promoting it, but want to know it's roots. Thanks, eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Mark McHugh" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy Eagle 1 wrote: Can't say I know quite what to think about this link. It could be an illuminati double reverse disinformation site... but then again, it could be true... regardless, true or false... it's shocking. The Jewish Conspiracy FAQ A primer for the hapless goyim http://www.netaxs.com/~balpert/jewfaq.html What the Talmud tells us: a blueprint for Conspiracy eagle 1 This guy likes to fuck with Jewhaters all the time on various Usenet newsgroups. -- ´´ Mark McHugh A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil