Re: spammers go personal

[Christian Hinch]

I know *I'm* not a spammer.
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:04 PM Christian Hinch 
wrote:

> That's weird.
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:44 PM Fungi4All 
> wrote:
>
>> Well I did not get the message myself to see the headers but I got a
>> response to what appeared to be my spam by Christian Hinch
>>
>> Re: yoshifanc_You_Qualify_for_Window_Replacemen_Rebates!_HQXL
>> 73.617.583.28
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: yoshifanc_You_Qualify_for_Window_Replacemen_Rebates!_HQXL
>> 73.617.583.28
>> Local Time: May 23, 2017 8:48 PM
>> UTC Time: May 23, 2017 5:48 PM
>> From: yoshif...@gmail.com
>> To: Fungi4All 
>>
>> Wow! This is AMAZING! Thanks for qualifying me!
>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:01 PM Eco-Windows Fungi4All <
>> fungil...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> xdgc
>>>
>>>  Free Windo--
>>>
>> Sent from Christian's Official iPad Mini Device
>>
>>
>> --
> Sent from Christian's Official iPad Mini Device
>
-- 
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Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Ric Moore]

On 05/24/2017 08:57 AM, Anil Duggirala wrote:

Oh, and also, I did not find /var/log/Xorg.0.log,


Please don't top post. You don't see anyone else doing that do you??
Take a clue. Ric


--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
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Re: spammers go personal

[Joel Rees]

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Christian Hinch  wrote:
> That's weird.

No, it's marketing. Tailored unrequested junk mail.

Once you give in to having to send messages one at a time, it isn't hard
to fake a response to a faked message, in the hopes of bringing more
uncautious people to drive by your website.

Or someone is being randomly sarcastic.

> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:44 PM Fungi4All  wrote:
>>
>> Well I did not get the message myself to see the headers but I got a
>> response to what appeared to be my spam by Christian Hinch
>>
>> Re: yoshifanc_You_Qualify_for_Window_Replacemen_Rebates!_HQXL
>> 73.617.583.28
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: yoshifanc_You_Qualify_for_Window_Replacemen_Rebates!_HQXL
>> 73.617.583.28
>> Local Time: May 23, 2017 8:48 PM
>> UTC Time: May 23, 2017 5:48 PM
>> From: yoshif...@gmail.com
>> To: Fungi4All 
>>
>> Wow! This is AMAZING! Thanks for qualifying me!
>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:01 PM Eco-Windows Fungi4All
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> xdgc
>>>
>>>  Free Windo--
>>
>> Sent from Christian's Official iPad Mini Device
>>
>>
> --
> Sent from Christian's Official iPad Mini Device



-- 
Joel Rees

One of these days I'll get someone to pay me
to design a language that combines the best of Forth and C.
Then I'll be able to leap wide instruction sets with a single #ifdef,
run faster than a speeding infinite loop with a #define,
and stop all integer size bugs with a bare cast.

More of my delusions:
http://reiisi.blogspot.com/2017/05/do-not-pay-modern-danegeld-ransomware.html
http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/p/novels-i-am-writing.html

Re: Live Fille System Backup

[Sergei G]

thank you for mentioning bup.  That's a great option I am considering.

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 5:52 AM, Stefan Monnier 
wrote:

> > I would like a backup tool that does not bring a million dependencies
> with
> > MBs of files.  Something that works on server without X Windows and can
> > send backup to an externally attached USB drive.  Nothing fancy.   No
> > network infrastructure.  Incremental backups would be greatly
> appreciated.
> > Ability to pipe to a compression program is a plus, just like I did with
> > dump.
>
> I used to use rsync for that kind of job, but nowadays I tend to prefer
> `bup` because it handles incrementals really well (especially in terms
> of compression).  It's in Debian stable or you can find it at
> https://github.com/bup/bup.
>
>
> Stefan
>
>
> PS: Of course, you'll still want to take a snapshot (e.g. with LVM) and
> back that up rather than the live filesystem.
>
>

Re: spammers go personal

[Christian Hinch]

That's weird.

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:44 PM Fungi4All  wrote:

> Well I did not get the message myself to see the headers but I got a
> response to what appeared to be my spam by Christian Hinch
>
> Re: yoshifanc_You_Qualify_for_Window_Replacemen_Rebates!_HQXL 73.617.583.28
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: yoshifanc_You_Qualify_for_Window_Replacemen_Rebates!_HQXL
> 73.617.583.28
> Local Time: May 23, 2017 8:48 PM
> UTC Time: May 23, 2017 5:48 PM
> From: yoshif...@gmail.com
> To: Fungi4All 
>
> Wow! This is AMAZING! Thanks for qualifying me!
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:01 PM Eco-Windows Fungi4All <
> fungil...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
>> xdgc
>>
>>  Free Windo--
>>
> Sent from Christian's Official iPad Mini Device
>
>
> --
Sent from Christian's Official iPad Mini Device

Intresting dd fsck grub uuid fstab action

[Fungi4All]

I experimented in switching a clone of my sid installation to an experimental, 
that was the plan.
Since I was doing other things I thought I'll let the cloning take place 
unattended.
Let's say sda5/6/7/8/9 were to be cloned to sdb5-9 (5 / 6 var 7 sw 8 tmp 9 
home) all b partitions were slightly larger.
I used dd bs=1M for each one and though all I had to do is log in sda5 edit the 
sdb5 fstab and then update-grub.

1 - Does dd leave uuid targets as they are, does it create new ones, or does it 
copy uuid from source to target?
2 - When I rebooted sda5 was not booting up properly. Eventually I checked its 
fstab and corrected it but at this poing the system run an fsck and I got some 
errors and hit y,y,y,y, for fixing. I don't know if the errors came from uuids 
existing in the system twice.
3 - Updating grub seemed to have made a bigger mess as now I could boot up but 
the partitions were mixed up between sda and sdb parts. It would boot-up on 
root / of sda and have a home in sdb9 
4 - Eventually to stay safe I booted from live usb and edited all the 
partitions, gave them separate labels to avoid any confusion (as "Deb on Sda6 
var..."_) and switched to all new uuids to clear up the mess. Re-edited fstab 
on bot sda and sdb (hd0 and hd1 dos5) and rebooted sda and updated-grub again.
5 - Here is the unexplained part: My sda5 system booted up fine and normal, 
when I would try sdb5 the second line would say debian clean on sda5!!!

So I went into grub.cfg to see what is going on. On the menu entry of the 
second installation the first line of each entry would have the proper sdb5 
uuid, the following line - which I believe is the actual command - had the uuid 
from sda5. So, am I to assume that grub when it updates only replaces the first 
line of each entry expecting the next uuid will be the same, even if it is not?

So I got it all fixed, not much to see in the experimental part for my interest 
except some kernels 4.10 and 4.11, but the puzzle is not solved. Where exactly 
did I go wrong? I'm just proud of myself for fixing it, but could there be a 
bug somewhere? For a minute or two I thought maybe grub was falsely detecting 
some kind of raid action between the two drives and mirror partitions, but I 
have no raid (intentionally).

Feel free to replicate the mess and I learned to hate gparted for taking so 
damn long from each operation to the next.

(AK)

Re: spammers go personal

[Fungi4All]

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Well I did not get the message myself to see the headers but I got a response 
to what appeared to be my spam by Christian Hinch

Re: yoshifanc_You_Qualify_for_Window_Replacemen_Rebates!_HQXL 73.617.583.28
 Original Message 
Subject: Re: yoshifanc_You_Qualify_for_Window_Replacemen_Rebates!_HQXL 
73.617.583.28
Local Time: May 23, 2017 8:48 PM
UTC Time: May 23, 2017 5:48 PM
From: yoshif...@gmail.com
To: Fungi4All 

Wow! This is AMAZING! Thanks for qualifying me!

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:01 PM Eco-Windows Fungi4All 
 wrote:
xdgc

Free Windo--

Sent from Christian's Official iPad Mini Device

Re: spammers go personal

[Fungi4All]

Well I did not get the message myself to see the headers but I got a response 
to what appeared to be my spam by Christian Hinch

Re: yoshifanc_You_Qualify_for_Window_Replacemen_Rebates!_HQXL 73.617.583.28
 Original Message 
Subject: Re: yoshifanc_You_Qualify_for_Window_Replacemen_Rebates!_HQXL 
73.617.583.28
Local Time: May 23, 2017 8:48 PM
UTC Time: May 23, 2017 5:48 PM
From: yoshif...@gmail.com
To: Fungi4All 

Wow! This is AMAZING! Thanks for qualifying me!

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:01 PM Eco-Windows Fungi4All 
 wrote:
xdgc

Free Windo--

Sent from Christian's Official iPad Mini Device

Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

[David Wright]

On Wed 24 May 2017 at 21:50:20 (-0300), Daniel Bareiro wrote:

> When you talk about "the numbers", do you mean to see by the console the
> values that are obtained for both batteries (voltage, for example) to
> make a comparison?

Yes, the bash function I use is:

battery () 
{ 
local BATTERYFILE="/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/uevent";
[ ! -r $BATTERYFILE ] && printf '%s\n' "$BATTERYFILE not found!" && return 
1;
date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M-%S;
cat $BATTERYFILE;
local FILEBATNOW="/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_now";
local FILEBATPREV="/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_full";
local CHARGE=$(( 100 * $(< $FILEBATNOW) / $(< $FILEBATPREV) ));
[ $CHARGE -lt 100 ] && printf '%s\n' "Charge: $CHARGE%"
}

AIUI uevent gives you the lot, which varies by model etc.
so just   cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/uevent
should do it, with and without the power supply connected.

(I run a slightly more sophisticated version that also
reads the CPU temperature, has error trapping, and changes
the root window colour according to battery state and,
if frying, temperature.)

Cheers,
David.

Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

[David Wright]

On Wed 24 May 2017 at 11:12:36 (-0400), Fungi4All wrote:
> On 28/03/17 16:24, David Wright wrote:
> 
> > Charger in:
> > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=380
> > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=872000
> > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=380
> >
> > Charger out:
> > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=380
> > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=872000
> > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=828000
> >
> > IOW my baseline after 8 years is about 20% capacity.
> 
> I think at that state it is 95% (828/872) and I think these correspong to 
> 8.28v and 8.72v which is as good as new.

I think you've misread the labelling here: charge, not voltage.
This "good as new" battery yields the following:

2017-05-24-18-19-29 (timestamp)
POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=BAT0
POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Discharging
POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=1
POWER_SUPPLY_TECHNOLOGY=Li-ion
POWER_SUPPLY_CYCLE_COUNT=0
POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_MIN_DESIGN=1110
POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=11968000
POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=1372000
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=380
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=1032000
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=998000
POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=96
POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY_LEVEL=Normal
POWER_SUPPLY_MODEL_NAME=DELL JG1688
POWER_SUPPLY_MANUFACTURER=Sanyo
POWER_SUPPLY_SERIAL_NUMBER=770
Charge: 96%

2017-05-24-18-42-30
POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=BAT0
POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Discharging
POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=1
POWER_SUPPLY_TECHNOLOGY=Li-ion
POWER_SUPPLY_CYCLE_COUNT=0
POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_MIN_DESIGN=1110
POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=10604000
POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=2036000
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=380
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=1032000
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=55000
POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=5
POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY_LEVEL=Low
POWER_SUPPLY_MODEL_NAME=DELL JG1688
POWER_SUPPLY_MANUFACTURER=Sanyo
POWER_SUPPLY_SERIAL_NUMBER=770
Charge: 5%

So that's a loss of 91% charge in 23 minutes. The reviewer of
this machine reported a battery life of over 200 minutes.

The large (400 minute) version of this battery went through a
similar course of gradual failure, except that one or more cells
started to go bad:
Feb 2014: laptop power lights started to beat a tattoo, indicating a problem.
Jul 2014: full capacity down to about 30% of the design maximum.
Mar 2015: total failure; battery power lamps flashed 1 3 5 when pressed.
  I've never seen a non-linear pattern documented, either for
  the short or the long press.

Both batteries date from at least 2009 so I can't really complain.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi, David.

On 24/05/17 21:22, David Wright wrote:

 Yes, as I mentioned in another message in this thread, I have already
 contacted the supplier to go asking for availability and prices.

>>> I'll cross my fingers for you. Please do likewise as these are
>>> the figures from one of my laptops:
>>>
>>> Charger in:
>>> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=380
>>> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=872000
>>> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=380
>>>
>>> Charger out:
>>> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=380
>>> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=872000
>>> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=828000
>>>
>>> IOW my baseline after 8 years is about 20% capacity.

>> Sorry for my delay in responding.
>>
>> I'll cross my fingers for you, David. How did your laptop battery continue?

> Nowadays this battery merely acts like an UPS because the laptop
> has to be plumbed in to a monitor to be usable (or else used over
> ssh). As reported earlier, there's a fault in the screen circuitry
> which means it's not really a portable anymore.
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/04/msg00533.html

Ah, I see..

>> Just yesterday I took my notebook to the provider to test with a new
>> battery. He said that today he will be contacting me to let me know the
>> result of the test.
>>
>> I'll let you know when I have news. Something I can add since my last
>> update to the mailing list is that the battery charge level with the
>> charger connected was gradually falling. At the time I took it to the
>> provider I had 18%.

> It would certainly be interesting to see the numbers from a new
> battery if you buy one. I've never owned a laptop (or any other
> computer, for that matter) from new.

Today the supplier sent me an email telling me that they tested with the
new battery, and it operates perfectly. They left the new battery
without power connected, and it operated with correct autonomy. They
checked the battery's power levels from the terminal and it reached the
maximum load limit correctly and then it was decreasing normally.

When you talk about "the numbers", do you mean to see by the console the
values that are obtained for both batteries (voltage, for example) to
make a comparison?


Kind regards,
Daniel



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Re: apt et ftp local

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Thu, 25 May 2017 00:18:04 +0200
Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit:

> Le Wed, 24 May 2017 21:16:31 +0200
> heho  a écrit:
> 
> > Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit le 24/05/2017 à 18:02 :
> > > Le Wed, 24 May 2017 15:51:34 +
> > > "BOITEUX, Frederic"  a écrit:
> > >>   C'est peut-être lié au fait que les dépôts officiels ne gèrent plus le
> > >> protocole FTP (fin avril) : peut-être ce protocole a-t-il été supprimé
> > >> d'apt ?
> > >>  Cdlt,   Fred.
> > >>
> > > Bizarre parce que j'accède en ftp les dépôts officiels ...
> > > deb [arch=amd64,i386] ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main
> > > contrib non-free  
> > > Gaëtan
> > > 
> > Bonjour,
> > 
> > apparemment, c'est pour novembre,
> > 
> > https://www.debian.org/News/2017/20170425
> > 
> > Cordialement,
> > hého
> 
> Je viens de constater que si je change légèrement la ligne dans sources.list
> par exemple dans:
> 
> deb [arch=arm,i386 trusted=yes] ftp://toto/debian/ testing main contrib
> non-free
> 
> je remplace toto par toto.home lors de l'apt update suivant ça fonctionne.
> Par contre si je fais un 2e apt update j'ai de nouveau des erreurs du style:
> 
> W: Symilinking final
> file 
> /var/lib/apt/lists/toto.home_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-amd64_Packages
> back
> to 
> /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/toto.home_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-amd64_Packages.gz
> failed - pkgAcqIndex::StageDownloadDone (17: Le fichier existe)
> 
> et pour certaines entrées une erreur du style:
>  E: Impossible de récupérer ftp://toto.home/debian/[...]/Packages Impossible
> de récupérer le fichier, le serveur a répondu " Failed to open file. "
> 
> Gaëtan

J'ai continué mes essais et j'ai constaté que si j'efface les fichiers
concernant mon dépôt dans /var/lib/apt/lists le apt update suivant se passe
bien. Par contre si j'en refais un ensuite j'ai de nouveau des erreurs et
plein de fichiers concernant mon dépôt dans /var/lib/apt/lists/partial.
Certains sont des liens vers les mêmes dans /var/lib/apt/lists mais d'autres
sont les .gz

Bref j'y comprends rien.

Gaëtan


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Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

[David Wright]

On Wed 24 May 2017 at 10:04:00 (-0300), Daniel Bareiro wrote:
> Hi, David.
> 
> On 28/03/17 16:24, David Wright wrote:
> 
> >> Yes, as I mentioned in another message in this thread, I have already
> >> contacted the supplier to go asking for availability and prices.
> 
> > I'll cross my fingers for you. Please do likewise as these are
> > the figures from one of my laptops:
> > 
> > Charger in:
> > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=380
> > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=872000
> > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=380
> > 
> > Charger out:
> > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=380
> > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=872000
> > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=828000
> > 
> > IOW my baseline after 8 years is about 20% capacity.
> 
> Sorry for my delay in responding.
> 
> I'll cross my fingers for you, David. How did your laptop battery continue?

Nowadays this battery merely acts like an UPS because the laptop
has to be plumbed in to a monitor to be usable (or else used over
ssh). As reported earlier, there's a fault in the screen circuitry
which means it's not really a portable anymore.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/04/msg00533.html

> Just yesterday I took my notebook to the provider to test with a new
> battery. He said that today he will be contacting me to let me know the
> result of the test.
> 
> I'll let you know when I have news. Something I can add since my last
> update to the mailing list is that the battery charge level with the
> charger connected was gradually falling. At the time I took it to the
> provider I had 18%.

It would certainly be interesting to see the numbers from a new
battery if you buy one. I've never owned a laptop (or any other
computer, for that matter) from new.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Issue with SASL authentication

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi!

On 24/05/17 15:37, Daniel Bareiro wrote:

>> I am configuring SASL to authenticate against IMAP. When I try to
>> authenticate, I get an error:
>>
>> --
>> root@Wserver2:~# saslpasswd2 -c daniel
>> --
>> root@Wserver2:~# testsaslauthd -u daniel -p password
>> 0: NO "authentication failed"
>> --
>>
>> However it works when I provide the realm:
>>
>> --
>> root@Wserver2:~# testsaslauthd -u daniel -r server2 -p password
>> 0: OK "Success."
>> --
>>
>> It's strange because I have another server where it works without problems:
>>
>> --
>> root@mail:~# testsaslauthd -u daniel -p password
>> 0: OK "Success."
>> --
>>
>> Both hosts have Debian Jessie and the SASL configuration is the same:
>>
>> --
>> root@mail:~# grep ^[^#] /etc/default/saslauthd
>> START=yes
>> DESC="SASL Authentication Daemon"
>> NAME="saslauthd"
>> MECHANISMS="sasldb"
>> MECH_OPTIONS=""
>> THREADS=5
>> OPTIONS="-c -m /var/run/saslauthd"
>> --
>> root@server2:~# grep ^[^#] /etc/default/saslauthd
>> START=yes
>> DESC="SASL Authentication Daemon"
>> NAME="saslauthd"
>> MECHANISMS="sasldb"
>> MECH_OPTIONS=""
>> THREADS=5
>> OPTIONS="-c -m /var/run/saslauthd"
>> --
>>
>> "mail" has some updates to apply, but I do not see any differences in
>> the versions of the SASL packages:
>>
>> --
>> root@mail:~# aptitude show libsasl2-2 | grep Versión
>> Versión: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1
>>
>> root@mail:~# aptitude show libsasl2-modules | grep Versión
>> Versión: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1
>>
>> root@mail:~# aptitude show sasl2-bin | grep Versión
>> Versión: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1
>> --
>>
>> --
>> root@server2:~# aptitude show libsasl2-2 | grep Version
>> Version: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1
>>
>> root@server2:~# aptitude show libsasl2-modules | grep Version
>> Version: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1
>>
>> root@server2:~# aptitude show sasl2-bin | grep Version
>> Version: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1
>> --
>>
>> In this case I'm not doing the authentication test against IMAP but
>> directly against SASL, so I guess the problem will be directly related
>> to the SASL configuration itself.
>>
>> Any thoughts about what might differ between the two environments?

> In case it is useful, when the authentication fails I get this in
> /var/log/auth.log:
> 
> --
> May 24 15:31:38 server2 saslauthd[2701]: do_auth : auth failure:
> [user=daniel] [service=imap] [realm=] [mech=sasldb] [reason=Unknown]
> --
> 
> It seems that authentication is done through IMAP and I have previously
> installed the Cyrus packages.

Apparently, despite this difference, the SASL authentication via IMAP is
working.

/var/log/mail.log:

--
May 24 19:38:51 server2 cyrus/imaps[3711]: starttls: TLSv1.2 with cipher
ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits new) no authentication
May 24 19:38:51 server2 cyrus/imaps[3711]: login: host.domain.tld.net
[x.y.z.t] daniel CRAM-MD5+TLS User logged in
SESSIONID=
May 24 19:38:51 server2 cyrus/imaps[3711]: created decompress buffer of
4102 bytes
May 24 19:38:51 server2 cyrus/imaps[3711]: created compress buffer of
4102 bytes
May 24 19:38:51 server2 cyrus/imaps[3711]: client id: "name"
"Thunderbird" "version" "45.8.0"
May 24 19:38:53 server2 cyrus/master[3800]: about to exec
/usr/lib/cyrus/bin/imapd
May 24 19:38:53 server2 cyrus/imaps[3800]: executed
May 24 19:38:53 server2 cyrus/imaps[3800]: accepted connection
May 24 19:38:53 server2 cyrus/imaps[3800]: imapd:Loading hard-coded DH
parameters
May 24 19:38:53 server2 cyrus/imaps[3800]: SSL_accept() incomplete -> wait
May 24 19:38:54 server2 cyrus/imaps[3800]: SSL_accept() succeeded -> done
--

But SMTP authentication for sending mail is not working.

/var/log/auth.log:

--
May 24 20:12:38 server2 saslauthd[3685]: do_auth : auth failure:
[user=daniel] [service=smtp] [realm=] [mech=sasldb] [reason=Unknown]
May 24 20:12:38 

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

[Michael Milliman]

On 05/24/2017 06:57 PM, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 24 May 2017 at 17:28:52 (-0500), Michael Milliman wrote:
> 
>> I installed and have been using feh as a stop-gap until the Debian
>> repositories catch up to upstream and/or fix the problem in Stretch.
>> Been working just fine, with its limitations.  It's better than a black
>> desktop. :)  I had to read the man page a couple of times and try it
>> another couple of times to make it work, but work it does.
> 
> I prefer to keep feh off my systems; its description is a lie.
> 
> feh - image viewer and cataloguer
> 
> It's an editor that has no concept of a buffer, but just scribbles
> over the original file. And, IIRC, the error message, when thwarted
> by a read-only file, is incorrect: it blames the permissions of
> the directory, not the file.
> 
This is a real problem, and I have no intention of using it for any
other reason than as a temporary fix to the MATE desktop background
issue.  There are much better applications for viewing/editing pictures
(Eye of Gnome/MATE, and GIMP come to mind).  I expect that as soon as
the background issue is resolved, I'll probably remove feh from my
system as well, as it has no other use for me.
> Cheers,
> David.
> 

-- 
73's,
WB5VQX -- The Very Quick X-ray

Re: Lire des vidéos sur Vimeo avec Firefox?

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2017-05-23 08:48:29 +0200, Stephane Ascoet wrote:
> Le 21/05/2017 à 02:17, Vincent Lefevre a écrit :
> > Au cas où ça marcherait pour certaines, voici un exemple qui ne
> > fonctionne pas: https://vimeo.com/183181894
> 
> Bonjour, chez moi ca fonctionne et j'utilise le greffon FlashStopper pour
> empecher les videos de demarrer toutes seules.

Merci pour l'info. FlashStopper semble fonctionner comme il faut:
les vidéos ne démarrent pas toutes seules, et il n'empêche pas les
vidéos Vimeo de fonctionner.

-- 
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100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: 
Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

[David Wright]

On Wed 24 May 2017 at 17:28:52 (-0500), Michael Milliman wrote:

> I installed and have been using feh as a stop-gap until the Debian
> repositories catch up to upstream and/or fix the problem in Stretch.
> Been working just fine, with its limitations.  It's better than a black
> desktop. :)  I had to read the man page a couple of times and try it
> another couple of times to make it work, but work it does.

I prefer to keep feh off my systems; its description is a lie.

feh - image viewer and cataloguer

It's an editor that has no concept of a buffer, but just scribbles
over the original file. And, IIRC, the error message, when thwarted
by a read-only file, is incorrect: it blames the permissions of
the directory, not the file.

Cheers,
David.

Re: erreur ligne 77 postfix main.cf

[daniel huhardeaux]

Le 24/05/2017 à 19:05, bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a écrit :

bonjour,

j'ai fait quelques recherches pour trouver l'erreur
sachant que la ligne 77 est vide

en premier les parages de la ligne 77 du main.cf :


30 relayhost =


75  COMMANDES POUR LA GESTION DES MAILS ##
76 # https://www.debian-fr.org/t/logs-postfix/63057/6
77
78 smtpd_client_restrictions =
79 >--->--->---reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname,
80 >--->--->---reject_unknown_client_hostname,
81 >--->--->---sleep 1,
82 >--->--->---reject_unauth_pipelining,
83 >--->--->---permit_mynetworks,


Toutes ces lignes avec


--->--->---


sentent le copier/coller d'un mcedit, caracteres non imprimables

--
Daniel

Re: Combinando valores do array

[real bas]

Sei que essa questão é um pouco antiga mas tem alguma maneira de desenrolar
essa combinação em paralelo?

Em 30 de março de 2016 10:02, Linux - Junior Polegato <
li...@juniorpolegato.com.br> escreveu:

> Em 30-03-2016 02:15, real bas escreveu:
>
>> Olá pessoal sei q nao eh o local ideal, mas temos varias pessoas da area
>> aqui, então vale a pena tentar pra ver se tenho alguma ajuda (nao eh uma
>> questao simples assim).
>> Eu preciso combinar varios valores de um array, porem cada posicao do
>> array pode assumir varios valores (array de array e tamanhos diferentes),
>> nao sei qual a melhor maneira de resolver isso.
>> Por exemplo, tenho um array A tamanho N = 3:
>> A[3] = { {4,5}, {1}, {3,6,7} }
>> Aqui tenho 2, 1 e 3 valores em cada posição de A, como posso fazer pra
>> desenrolar esse array e formar 6 arrays (tal que eu tenha os 3 valores
>> distintos nos 6 arrays) da seguinte maneira?
>> R:
>> {4,1,3}
>> {4,1,6}
>> {4,1,7}
>> {5,1,3}
>> {5,1,6}
>> {5,1,7}
>>
>
> Olá!
>
> Faltou especificar a linguagem, mas vão 2 exemplos:
>
> Linguagem Python (cada variável/constante carrega consigo seu
> tipo, tamanho e dados, e possibilita iterar diretamente sobre um vetor,
> além de controle de memória e rica em funções e funcionalidades):
>
> A = [[4, 5], [1], [3, 6, 7]]
> R = reduce(lambda a, b: [(c if isinstance(c, list) else [c]) + [d] for c
> in a for d in b], A)
> for r in R:
> print r
>
> Linguagem C (tudo ao seu controle, mas precisa controlar tudo, não
> guarda o tamanho dos vetores, então tem que fornecer):
>
> https://gist.github.com/JuniorPolegato/f26ff7511958287c5fa84291c7082c77
>
>
> --
>
> []'s
>
> Junior Polegato
>
>

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

[Michael Milliman]

On 05/24/2017 12:26 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 05/20/2017 09:31 PM, Michael Milliman wrote:
>> [snip]
 The bug report also lists a workaround (which I haven't tried).

>> The workaround is using the feh package to manually set the background
>> image.  This does work, however, it has to be done each time you
>> log-in. It is better than nothing.  Upstream also appears to have
>> a bug reported on it, and they suggest installation of mate-desktop
>> 16.2 with caja 16.3, neither of which has made it to the Debian
>> distribution as of yet.
> 
> Being one who emphatically avoids graphics I found a subtle gotcha.
> 
> The man page 
> _mentions_ setting wallpaper in passing my noting "Use --no-xinerama to
> treat the whole X display as one screen when setting wallpapers."
> 
> An example command line to use would be (as a single line):
> feh --no-xinerama /usr/share/backgrounds/mate/desktop/GreenTraditional.jpg
> 
> It also does not mention how to set it as the wallpaper ;)
> Once the above command has displayed the chosen image:
>  1. right-click anywhere in the image
>  2. chose File->Background->Set Filled from the displayed menu/sub-menus

I installed and have been using feh as a stop-gap until the Debian
repositories catch up to upstream and/or fix the problem in Stretch.
Been working just fine, with its limitations.  It's better than a black
desktop. :)  I had to read the man page a couple of times and try it
another couple of times to make it work, but work it does.


> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
73's,
WB5VQX -- The Very Quick X-ray

Re: apt et ftp local

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Wed, 24 May 2017 21:16:31 +0200
heho  a écrit:

> Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit le 24/05/2017 à 18:02 :
> > Le Wed, 24 May 2017 15:51:34 +
> > "BOITEUX, Frederic"  a écrit:
> >>   C'est peut-être lié au fait que les dépôts officiels ne gèrent plus le
> >> protocole FTP (fin avril) : peut-être ce protocole a-t-il été supprimé
> >> d'apt ?
> >>Cdlt,   Fred.
> >>
> > Bizarre parce que j'accède en ftp les dépôts officiels ...
> > deb [arch=amd64,i386] ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib
> > non-free  
> > Gaëtan
> > 
> Bonjour,
> 
> apparemment, c'est pour novembre,
> 
> https://www.debian.org/News/2017/20170425
> 
> Cordialement,
> hého

Je viens de constater que si je change légèrement la ligne dans sources.list
par exemple dans:

deb [arch=arm,i386 trusted=yes] ftp://toto/debian/ testing main contrib
non-free

je remplace toto par toto.home lors de l'apt update suivant ça fonctionne. Par
contre si je fais un 2e apt update j'ai de nouveau des erreurs du style:

W: Symilinking final
file 
/var/lib/apt/lists/toto.home_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-amd64_Packages
back
to 
/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/toto.home_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-amd64_Packages.gz
failed - pkgAcqIndex::StageDownloadDone (17: Le fichier existe)

et pour certaines entrées une erreur du style:
 E: Impossible de récupérer ftp://toto.home/debian/[...]/Packages Impossible
de récupérer le fichier, le serveur a répondu " Failed to open file. "

Gaëtan


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Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Anil Duggirala]

I am running the default Gnome player, Totem.
I will install icewm when I am on a better connection, with
dependencies, goes up to 48 MB.
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  esound-common gconf-service gconf2 gconf2-common gnome-mime-data icewm
  icewm-common libaudiofile1 libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common
  libbonoboui2-0
  libbonoboui2-common libesd0 libgconf-2-4 libglade2-0 libgnome-2-0
  libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomeui-0
  libgnomeui-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common
  libgnomevfs2-extra
  libjpeg-turbo-progs liborbit-2-0 libturbojpeg0 menu xscreensaver
  xscreensaver-data
0 upgraded, 30 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
Need to get 11.1 MB of archives.
After this operation, 48.5 MB of additional disk space will be used.

thanks Felix,


On Wed, May 24, 2017, at 04:24 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
> Greg Wooledge composed on 2017-05-24 16:54 (UTC-0400):
> 
> > You'll need to do an "apt-get dist-upgrade" to bring in the 4.9.0-3-amd64
> > kernel package, but I don't expect that will have any effect on your
> > current problem.
> 
> Certainly possible. His kernel was compiled 30 March. -3 was compiled 3
> May. I
> just installed it, but /requirement/ of "apt-get dist-upgrade" is
> technically
> incorrect. I just did it this way just minutes ago:
> 
>   apt dist-upgrade
> 
> :-)
> 
> Anil's log from about 3+ hours ago shows he's using the modeset(0) Xorg
> driver
> still.
> 
> He still hasn't reported which video player(s) cause his trouble.
> 
> Installation of IceWM takes less than 8MB of disk space. Using it
> 
>   startx /usr/bin/icewm
> 
> to run his player(s) should tell whether the playback performance problem
> is in
> Gnome or elsewhere.
> -- 
> "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
> words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
> 
>  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
> 
> Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/
> 

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Felix Miata]

Greg Wooledge composed on 2017-05-24 16:54 (UTC-0400):

> You'll need to do an "apt-get dist-upgrade" to bring in the 4.9.0-3-amd64
> kernel package, but I don't expect that will have any effect on your
> current problem.

Certainly possible. His kernel was compiled 30 March. -3 was compiled 3 May. I
just installed it, but /requirement/ of "apt-get dist-upgrade" is technically
incorrect. I just did it this way just minutes ago:

apt dist-upgrade

:-)

Anil's log from about 3+ hours ago shows he's using the modeset(0) Xorg driver
still.

He still hasn't reported which video player(s) cause his trouble.

Installation of IceWM takes less than 8MB of disk space. Using it

startx /usr/bin/icewm

to run his player(s) should tell whether the playback performance problem is in
Gnome or elsewhere.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Re: stretch and cryptsetup/luks - boot delay

[deloptes]

andy wrote:

> i'm hoping i'm missing something obvious.  thanks in advance!
> 

I don't know if I can help. I am still on jessie, but here are some thoughts

> ::
> /etc/crypttab
> ::
> sda5_crypt UUID=08d8147c-a06c-4746-827f-d720b1f5d738 none luks,discard

What happens if you add the tries option here?

sdb2_crypt UUID=c3063f61-b2d8-4bbe-9c73-0dd04cb1f4b8 none 
luks,discard,tries=2,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256

and did you update your initrd ? I advice to do it after changing anything
related to crypted root partition as those config files are added to the
initrd

what if you disable CRYPTDISKS_ENABLE  in /etc/default/cryptdisks (and
update initrd)

the rest is to see whats in systemd around it

regards

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Anil Duggirala]

I dont know if people are being misled by the title in this thread and I
should start a new thread. Gnome is working in my laptop since I
installed Stretch, it is just not working well. please read only my
previous message to this one, thanks,

On Wed, May 24, 2017, at 04:00 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Wed, 24 May 2017, Felix Miata wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Intel gfx did not need any firmware that was not part of a
> > default or minimal installation. :-(
> 
> Nowadays it may actually requires BIOS/UEFI _and_ processor microcode
> updates as well.
> 
> The BIOS/UEFI updates work around issues related to power management and
> suspend/resume.  The microcode updates fix internal CPU to iGPU
> low-level issues that typically results in processor hangs, or iGPU
> misbehavior.
> 
> -- 
>   Henrique Holschuh
> 

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Wed, 24 May 2017, Felix Miata wrote:
> Once upon a time, Intel gfx did not need any firmware that was not part of a
> default or minimal installation. :-(

Nowadays it may actually requires BIOS/UEFI _and_ processor microcode
updates as well.

The BIOS/UEFI updates work around issues related to power management and
suspend/resume.  The microcode updates fix internal CPU to iGPU
low-level issues that typically results in processor hangs, or iGPU
misbehavior.

-- 
  Henrique Holschuh

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 03:43:43PM -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> I have one more question, doing apt-get upgrade mentions
> linux-image-amd64 is being "held back" I am currently on 4.9.0-2, could
> this be related?

You'll need to do an "apt-get dist-upgrade" to bring in the 4.9.0-3-amd64
kernel package, but I don't expect that will have any effect on your
current problem.

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Anil Duggirala]

Hello everyone, thanks for your responses. To recap, I installed a fresh
Stretch with Gnome, that is all I have done so far. 
Felix: xorg-xserver-video-intel is installed and shows up in dpkg -l
grep intel:
ii  libdrm-intel1:amd64   2.4.74-1  
  amd64Userspace interface to intel-specific kernel DRM
services -- runtime
ii  libdrm-intel1:i3862.4.74-1  
  i386 Userspace interface to intel-specific kernel DRM
services -- runtime
ii  xserver-xorg-video-intel  2:2.99.917+git20161206-1  
  amd64X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver

from journalctl | grep failed:
May 24 15:26:48 laptopanil kernel: acpi PNP0A08:00: _OSC failed
(AE_ERROR); disabling ASPM
May 24 15:26:52 laptopanil kernel: usb 1-3: firmware: failed to load
ar3k/AthrBT_0x3101.dfu (-2)
May 24 15:26:52 laptopanil kernel: usb 1-3: Direct firmware load for
ar3k/AthrBT_0x3101.dfu failed with error -2
May 24 15:26:52 laptopanil kernel: Bluetooth: Loading patch file failed
May 24 15:26:52 laptopanil kernel: ath3k: probe of 1-3:1.0 failed with
error -2
May 24 15:27:00 laptopanil avahi-daemon[470]: chroot.c: open() failed:
No such file or directory
May 24 15:27:07 laptopanil systemd-udevd[556]: Process '/sbin/crda'
failed with exit code 255.
May 24 15:27:29 laptopanil gnome-settings-[696]: g_task_return_error:
assertion 'error != NULL' failed
May 24 15:27:36 laptopanil /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[754]:
xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted)
May 24 15:27:47 laptopanil gnome-settings-[942]: g_task_return_error:
assertion 'error != NULL' failed
May 24 15:27:55 laptopanil tracker-extract[972]: External plugin loader
failed. This most likely means that the plugin loader helper binary was
not found or could not be run. You might need to set the
GST_PLUGIN_SCANNER environment variable if your setup is unusual. This
should normally not be required though.
May 24 15:29:06 laptopanil firefox-esr.desktop[1131]: 1495657746446 
  addons.productaddonsERRORRequest failed certificate
checks: [Exception... "SSL is required and URI scheme is not https." 
nsresult: "0x8000 (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED)"  location: "JS frame ::
resource://gre/modules/CertUtils.jsm :

I know I am missing some wireless firmware, I imagine that is not
causing my issue (sluggish graphics, and crashing videos), cofirmed by
dmesg | grep -i firmware:
[0.432369] ACPI: [Firmware Bug]: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored
[   13.469892] usb 1-3: firmware: failed to load
ar3k/AthrBT_0x3101.dfu (-2)
[   13.470076] usb 1-3: Direct firmware load for
ar3k/AthrBT_0x3101.dfu failed with error -2
[   25.915422] r8169 :02:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware
rtl_nic/rtl8106e-1.fw

Someone had said I could update my BIOS (and something about linux mode,
I cannot find that), could that possibly help??

Greg: I do believe I am not using a dm since looking for lightdm or gdm
or lxdm does not show installed packages.

I have one more question, doing apt-get upgrade mentions
linux-image-amd64 is being "held back" I am currently on 4.9.0-2, could
this be related?

If Gnome is not for me, then I can live with that (someone said
(debian-laptop list) they have my exact same laptop and is running
Gnome, I dont know how he did it), I guess I can go to Mate if
necesssary, could the video playback issue also be resolved this way??

thanks a lot, sorry for the long email




On Wed, May 24, 2017, at 03:00 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 03:38:38PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> > Given that that log contns no (EE) errors, switching to a different DE might
> > be a solution.
> 
> Well, we knew that from the Subject: of the email. ;-)  The message in
> the subject is unique to certain desktop environments, and indicates
> that the graphics support isn't good enough for whatever crazy rendering
> or compositing thing the kids these days think a workstation should do.
> 
> > That log also reports the modeset(0) driver is in use. It's possible that 
> > the
> > Intel driver would work better.
> 
> I suppose it's worth a shot, but the modeset driver is supposed to
> be the correct choice for most Intel graphics chipsets in stretch,
> even those that were supported by the intel driver in jessie.
> 
> A more common suggestion might be to verify that all of the necessary
> firmware has been installed, especially if some of it is from non-free.
> 
> dmesg | grep -i firmware
> 
> See if there are any errors about missing firmware there, and if so,
> track down and install whichever packages contain those firmware blobs.
> It's pretty likely that he'll want firmware-misc-nonfree for example.
> 
> > followed by login manager restart or reboot.
> 
> He got his Xorg.0.log from $HOME instead of /var/log, which means he is
> running startx, not using a display manager.
> 
> I'm not sure whether you need to reboot after 

Re: Petite distribution Linux Live 64 bits [résolu]

[andre_debian]

On Wednesday 24 May 2017 20:59:22 Haricophile wrote> 
> > On Wednesday 24 May 2017 19:38:04 Aishen wrote:
> > > Je ne connais pas :
> > > http://puppylinux.org/main/How%20to%20download%20Puppy.htm  

Merci pour vos liens mais trop lourd, je voulais inférieur à 250Mo,
c'est puppylinux 64 bits ci-dessus qui me convient = 240Mo.
(ma réponse ci-après).


Le Wed, 24 May 2017 20:46:46 +0200,
> andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
> > 254 Mo, c'est bon.
> > Super, merci.

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 04:31:40PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> All my Stretch installations are using /var/log/ for Xorg.#.log whether I use
> startx (with or without a DM running) or not. All my openSUSEes are, and even 
> my
> Fedoras IIRC.

In stretch, startx uses /var/log/Xorg.0.log if you run it as root, or
~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log if you run it as a non-root user.

(Learned that one the hard way... trying to diagnose my own Intel video
chipset issues, and kept looking at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file from
that one time I had run startx as root, instead of the *current* log
that was being written elsewhere.  Took a while to figure out why my
changes were having no effect in the log)

> Once upon a time, Intel gfx did not need any firmware that was not part of a
> default or minimal installation. :-(

Yup.  This changed with the intel->modeset switch in stretch.  The modeset
driver wants firmware.

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Felix Miata]

Greg Wooledge composed on 2017-05-24 16:00 (UTC-0400):

> A more common suggestion might be to verify that all of the necessary
> firmware has been installed, especially if some of it is from non-free.

> dmesg | grep -i firmware

Requested >20 hours ago:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/05/msg00744.html

I also asked which video player(s) he was using, and got no answer to that 
either.

> He got his Xorg.0.log from $HOME instead of /var/log, which means he is
> running startx, not using a display manager.

All my Stretch installations are using /var/log/ for Xorg.#.log whether I use
startx (with or without a DM running) or not. All my openSUSEes are, and even my
Fedoras IIRC.

Once upon a time, Intel gfx did not need any firmware that was not part of a
default or minimal installation. :-(
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Re: apt et ftp local

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Wed, 24 May 2017 21:16:31 +0200
heho  a écrit:

> Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit le 24/05/2017 à 18:02 :
> > Le Wed, 24 May 2017 15:51:34 +
> > "BOITEUX, Frederic"  a écrit:
> >>   C'est peut-être lié au fait que les dépôts officiels ne gèrent plus le
> >> protocole FTP (fin avril) : peut-être ce protocole a-t-il été supprimé
> >> d'apt ?
> >>Cdlt,   Fred.
> >>
> > Bizarre parce que j'accède en ftp les dépôts officiels ...
> > deb [arch=amd64,i386] ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib
> > non-free  
> > Gaëtan
> > 
> Bonjour,
> 
> apparemment, c'est pour novembre,
> 
> https://www.debian.org/News/2017/20170425
> 
> Cordialement,
> hého

D'un autre côté ce n'est pas parce que les serveurs debian abandonnent le ftp
que apt ne saura plus gérer un dépôt via ftp, non ?

A+

Gaëtan


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Re: Petite distribution Linux Live 64 bits

[Cyrille]

Crunchbang ;-)
https://www.bunsenlabs.org/


Le Wed, 24 May 2017 20:46:46 +0200,
andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

> On Wednesday 24 May 2017 19:38:04 Aishen wrote:
> > Je ne connais pas :
> > http://puppylinux.org/main/How%20to%20download%20Puppy.htm  
> 
> 254 Mo, c'est bon.
> 
> Super, merci.
> 
> > Le 24/05/2017 à 19:14, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :  
> > > Je recherche une petite distribution GNU/ Linux Live 64 bits.
> > > Ils en existent beaucoup mais trop volumineuses,
> > > plus de 750Mo, je souhaite moins de 100 Mo max.
> > > Merci et bonne soirée,  André  
> 
> 

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 03:38:38PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Given that that log contains no (EE) errors, switching to a different DE might
> be a solution.

Well, we knew that from the Subject: of the email. ;-)  The message in
the subject is unique to certain desktop environments, and indicates
that the graphics support isn't good enough for whatever crazy rendering
or compositing thing the kids these days think a workstation should do.

> That log also reports the modeset(0) driver is in use. It's possible that the
> Intel driver would work better.

I suppose it's worth a shot, but the modeset driver is supposed to
be the correct choice for most Intel graphics chipsets in stretch,
even those that were supported by the intel driver in jessie.

A more common suggestion might be to verify that all of the necessary
firmware has been installed, especially if some of it is from non-free.

dmesg | grep -i firmware

See if there are any errors about missing firmware there, and if so,
track down and install whichever packages contain those firmware blobs.
It's pretty likely that he'll want firmware-misc-nonfree for example.

> followed by login manager restart or reboot.

He got his Xorg.0.log from $HOME instead of /var/log, which means he is
running startx, not using a display manager.

I'm not sure whether you need to reboot after installing new firmware.

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Felix Miata]

Anil Duggirala composed on 2017-05-24 09:12 (UTC-0500):

> hello, I pasted my Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/938243
> Fungi: this is an Asus X441SA laptop, is this also mix and match laptop?
> I did a clean install from Debian installer of Stretch, nothing is left
> from previous Jessie.
> swithching *dm is still a valid idea in this case?

Given that that log contains no (EE) errors, switching to a different DE might
be a solution.

That log also reports the modeset(0) driver is in use. It's possible that the
Intel driver would work better. If you wish to try the Intel driver and

dpkg -l | grep intel

does not return

xserver-xorg-video-intel

then do

apt install xserver-xorg-video-intel

and

cp /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-intel/xorg.conf /etc/X11

followed by login manager restart or reboot. Then report results and provide
Xorg.0.log on https://paste.debian.net again if not a satisfactory improvement.
Also if not improved, do

journalctl | grep failed

and post that result here if fairly short, or on https://paste.debian.net/ if
extensive.

Also, try a different WM/DE, as this problem could be limited to Gnome. FWIW, I
use TDE on Stretch, installed via these instructions:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall
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Re: Spammers go personal

[Tomaž Šolc]

On 24. 05. 2017 00:04, Joel Rees wrote:
> Only you can tell, from the headers, and from your own setup, whether the
> junk-fraudmailers just spoofed your address or actually used your computer
> to send it.

For what is worth: a few hours ago I've received several mails that look
similar.

They are seemingly sent from valid Gmail accounts (received by my
inbound SMTP from Google outbound servers and authenticated via SPF and
DKIM). They all contain an angry/sad reply on top of a quoted spam
message. My email and name is quoted as the original author of the spam
message. The spam message looks similar to what Fungi4All quoted.

The interesting part is that all the mails have a In-Reply-To and
References headers. These headers contain message ID from one of my
previous mails to debian-user.

I see no indications in my server's log files that the quoted spam
originated from my server.

My guess is that these were genuine replies from Gmail users to spam
sent with my address in a spoofed From: field. Perhaps someone figured
out that using Message IDs from valid mails allows them to circumvent
Google's spam and SPF/DKIM checks.

Best regards
Tomaž



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Re: Petite distribution Linux Live 64 bits

[Haricophile]

Le Wed, 24 May 2017 20:46:46 +0200,
andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

> On Wednesday 24 May 2017 19:38:04 Aishen wrote:
> > Je ne connais pas :
> > http://puppylinux.org/main/How%20to%20download%20Puppy.htm  
> 
> 254 Mo, c'est bon.
> 
> Super, merci.
> 


Sinon Distrowatch http://bit.ly/2qcxf9m


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Re: apt et ftp local

[heho]

Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit le 24/05/2017 à 18:02 :
> Le Wed, 24 May 2017 15:51:34 +
> "BOITEUX, Frederic"  a écrit:
>>   C'est peut-être lié au fait que les dépôts officiels ne gèrent plus le
>> protocole FTP (fin avril) : peut-être ce protocole a-t-il été supprimé
>> d'apt ?
>>  Cdlt,   Fred.
>>
> Bizarre parce que j'accède en ftp les dépôts officiels ...
> deb [arch=amd64,i386] ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib
> non-free  
> Gaëtan
> 
Bonjour,

apparemment, c'est pour novembre,

https://www.debian.org/News/2017/20170425

Cordialement,
hého

stretch and cryptsetup/luks - boot delay

[andy]

hello -

i recently upgraded my laptop from wheezy through jessie into stretch. 
almost everything Just Worked, which is great!

one lingering problem is that there is a 1min 30sec delay in the boot
after entering my passphrase.  it reports:
cryptsetup (sda5_crypt): set up successfully
root: clean, 290656/2932736 files, 3260365/11718656 blocks

but then goes into a delay, displaying "A start job is running" for the
disk-related units.  they time out, with `journalctl -alb` showing:
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: 
dev-disk-by\x2duuid-08d8147c\x2da06c\x2d4746\x2d827f\x2dd720b1f5d738.device: 
Job 
dev-disk-by\x2duuid-08d8147c\x2da06c\x2d4746\x2d827f\x2dd720b1f5d738.device/start
 timed out.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device 
dev-disk-by\x2duuid-08d8147c\x2da06c\x2d4746\x2d827f\x2dd720b1f5d738.device.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: Dependency failed for Cryptography 
Setup for sda5_crypt.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: Dependency failed for Encrypted 
Volumes.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: cryptsetup.target: Job 
cryptsetup.target/start failed with result 'dependency'.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: Dependency failed for 
dev-mapper-sda5_crypt.device.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: dev-mapper-sda5_crypt.device: Job 
dev-mapper-sda5_crypt.device/start failed with result 'dependency'.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: 
systemd-cryptsetup@sda5_crypt.service: Job 
systemd-cryptsetup@sda5_crypt.service/start failed with result 'dependency'.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: 
dev-disk-by\x2duuid-08d8147c\x2da06c\x2d4746\x2d827f\x2dd720b1f5d738.device: 
Job 
dev-disk-by\x2duuid-08d8147c\x2da06c\x2d4746\x2d827f\x2dd720b1f5d738.device/start
 failed with result 'timeout'.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: 
dev-mapper-abezella\x2d\x2dlaptop\x2dhome.device: Job 
dev-mapper-abezella\x2d\x2dlaptop\x2dhome.device/start timed out.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device 
dev-mapper-abezella\x2d\x2dlaptop\x2dhome.device.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: Dependency failed for /home.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: Dependency failed for Local File 
Systems.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: local-fs.target: Job 
local-fs.target/start failed with result 'dependency'.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: local-fs.target: Triggering 
OnFailure= dependencies.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: home.mount: Job home.mount/start 
failed with result 'dependency'.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: Dependency failed for File System 
Check on /dev/mapper/abezella--laptop-home.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: 
systemd-fsck@dev-mapper-abezella\x2d\x2dlaptop\x2dhome.service: Job 
systemd-fsck@dev-mapper-abezella\x2d\x2dlaptop\x2dhome.service/start failed 
with result 'dependency'.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: 
dev-mapper-abezella\x2d\x2dlaptop\x2dhome.device: Job 
dev-mapper-abezella\x2d\x2dlaptop\x2dhome.device/start failed with result 
'timeout'.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: 
dev-disk-by\x2duuid-cba918f2\x2d3c25\x2d417f\x2d9da9\x2de2b1fafe4aa0.device: 
Job 
dev-disk-by\x2duuid-cba918f2\x2d3c25\x2d417f\x2d9da9\x2de2b1fafe4aa0.device/start
 timed out.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device 
dev-disk-by\x2duuid-cba918f2\x2d3c25\x2d417f\x2d9da9\x2de2b1fafe4aa0.device.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: Dependency failed for /boot.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: boot.mount: Job boot.mount/start 
failed with result 'dependency'.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: Dependency failed for File System 
Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/cba918f2-3c25-417f-9da9-e2b1fafe4aa0.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: 
systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-cba918f2\x2d3c25\x2d417f\x2d9da9\x2de2b1fafe4aa0.service:
 Job 
systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-cba918f2\x2d3c25\x2d417f\x2d9da9\x2de2b1fafe4aa0.service/start
 failed with result 'dependency'.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: 
dev-disk-by\x2duuid-cba918f2\x2d3c25\x2d417f\x2d9da9\x2de2b1fafe4aa0.device: 
Job 
dev-disk-by\x2duuid-cba918f2\x2d3c25\x2d417f\x2d9da9\x2de2b1fafe4aa0.device/start
 failed with result 'timeout'.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: 
dev-mapper-abezella\x2d\x2dlaptop\x2dswap_1.device: Job 
dev-mapper-abezella\x2d\x2dlaptop\x2dswap_1.device/start timed out.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device 
dev-mapper-abezella\x2d\x2dlaptop\x2dswap_1.device.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: Dependency failed for 
/dev/mapper/abezella--laptop-swap_1.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: Dependency failed for Swap.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: swap.target: Job swap.target/start 
failed with result 'dependency'.
May 24 11:11:53 abezella-laptop systemd[1]: 

Re: Petite distribution Linux Live 64 bits

[Haricophile]

Le Wed, 24 May 2017 19:14:37 +0200,
andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

> Bonjour,
> 
> Je recherche une petite distribution GNU/ Linux Live 64 bits.
> 
> Ils en existent beaucoup mais trop volumineuses,
> plus de 750Mo, je souhaite moins de 100 Mo max.
> 
> Merci et bonne soirée,

Live de moins de 100Mo en live ET en amd64 ...

C'est pour quel matériel et faire quoi ?

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Re: Petite distribution Linux Live 64 bits

[Klaus Becker]

On mercredi 24 mai 2017 20:46:46 CEST andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
> On Wednesday 24 May 2017 19:38:04 Aishen wrote:
> > Je ne connais pas :
> > http://puppylinux.org/main/How%20to%20download%20Puppy.htm
> 
> 254 Mo, c'est bon.
> 
> Super, merci.
> 
> > Le 24/05/2017 à 19:14, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
> > > Je recherche une petite distribution GNU/ Linux Live 64 bits.
> > > Ils en existent beaucoup mais trop volumineuses,
> > > plus de 750Mo, je souhaite moins de 100 Mo max.
> > > Merci et bonne soirée,  André


https://duckduckgo.com/?q=small+distribution+linux+=ffsb=v59-2=web

Klaus

Re: [A bit OT] Diagnosing home network

[Brian]

On Tue 23 May 2017 at 22:32:52 -, Dan Purgert wrote:

> rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, May 22, 2017 08:28:54 AM Dan Purgert wrote:
> >
> >> Probably WPA2-PSK ("Pre Shared Key") -- just means "password auth".
> >> TBH, not having the SSID transmitted is actually LESS secure (overall)
> >> than just having it transmit, due to the fact that your client devices
> >> (phone, laptop, etc) have to broadcast "hey, I'm looking for SSID,
> >> any APs in range have that one?"
> >
> > Interesting--I didn't know that, and I need to think about chaning my
> > setup. 
> > Thanks!
> 
> NP, kinda took me by surprise when I first heard it ... but when you sit
> back and think about it, it makes sense that the client device has to
> ask if the SSID is present.

If security if a wireless network is the aim you will be using WPA2.
Nobody is getting through that in a timeframe which makes sense. Hiding
the SSID is very appealing to some people, so they advocate it. It does
nothing for security, one way or the other.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Petite distribution Linux Live 64 bits

[andre_debian]

On Wednesday 24 May 2017 19:38:04 Aishen wrote:
> Je ne connais pas :
> http://puppylinux.org/main/How%20to%20download%20Puppy.htm

254 Mo, c'est bon.

Super, merci.

> Le 24/05/2017 à 19:14, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
> > Je recherche une petite distribution GNU/ Linux Live 64 bits.
> > Ils en existent beaucoup mais trop volumineuses,
> > plus de 750Mo, je souhaite moins de 100 Mo max.
> > Merci et bonne soirée,  André

Re: Issue with SASL authentication

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi again.

On 24/05/17 10:57, Daniel Bareiro wrote:

> I am configuring SASL to authenticate against IMAP. When I try to
> authenticate, I get an error:
> 
> --
> root@Wserver2:~# saslpasswd2 -c daniel
> --
> root@Wserver2:~# testsaslauthd -u daniel -p password
> 0: NO "authentication failed"
> --
> 
> However it works when I provide the realm:
> 
> --
> root@Wserver2:~# testsaslauthd -u daniel -r server2 -p password
> 0: OK "Success."
> --
> 
> It's strange because I have another server where it works without problems:
> 
> --
> root@mail:~# testsaslauthd -u daniel -p password
> 0: OK "Success."
> --
> 
> Both hosts have Debian Jessie and the SASL configuration is the same:
> 
> --
> root@mail:~# grep ^[^#] /etc/default/saslauthd
> START=yes
> DESC="SASL Authentication Daemon"
> NAME="saslauthd"
> MECHANISMS="sasldb"
> MECH_OPTIONS=""
> THREADS=5
> OPTIONS="-c -m /var/run/saslauthd"
> --
> root@server2:~# grep ^[^#] /etc/default/saslauthd
> START=yes
> DESC="SASL Authentication Daemon"
> NAME="saslauthd"
> MECHANISMS="sasldb"
> MECH_OPTIONS=""
> THREADS=5
> OPTIONS="-c -m /var/run/saslauthd"
> --
> 
> "mail" has some updates to apply, but I do not see any differences in
> the versions of the SASL packages:
> 
> --
> root@mail:~# aptitude show libsasl2-2 | grep Versión
> Versión: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1
> 
> root@mail:~# aptitude show libsasl2-modules | grep Versión
> Versión: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1
> 
> root@mail:~# aptitude show sasl2-bin | grep Versión
> Versión: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1
> --
> 
> --
> root@server2:~# aptitude show libsasl2-2 | grep Version
> Version: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1
> 
> root@server2:~# aptitude show libsasl2-modules | grep Version
> Version: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1
> 
> root@server2:~# aptitude show sasl2-bin | grep Version
> Version: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1
> --
> 
> In this case I'm not doing the authentication test against IMAP but
> directly against SASL, so I guess the problem will be directly related
> to the SASL configuration itself.
> 
> Any thoughts about what might differ between the two environments?

In case it is useful, when the authentication fails I get this in
/var/log/auth.log:

--
May 24 15:31:38 server2 saslauthd[2701]: do_auth : auth failure:
[user=daniel] [service=imap] [realm=] [mech=sasldb] [reason=Unknown]
--

It seems that authentication is done through IMAP and I have previously
installed the Cyrus packages.

Thanks in advance,

Kind regards,
Daniel



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Re: erreur ligne 77 postfix main.cf

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 24/05/2017 à 19:05, bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a écrit :

sachant que la ligne 77 est vide


Vu d'ici, elle a plutôt l'air pleine de blancs ou autres caractères non 
imprimables.

Re: apt et ftp local

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Wed, 24 May 2017 18:13:02 +0200
Gabriel Moreau  a écrit:

> 
> >>   C'est peut-être lié au fait que les dépôts officiels ne gèrent plus le
> >> protocole FTP (fin avril) : peut-être ce protocole a-t-il été supprimé
> >> d'apt ?
> >>
> >>Cdlt,
> >>Fred.
> >>
> >
> > Bizarre parce que j'accède en ftp les dépôts officiels ...
> > deb [arch=amd64,i386] ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib
> > non-free
> 
> Il est préférable de basculer en http via un petit serveur vite 
> configuré. Le support ftp va être enlever d'apt il me semble car peu 
> efficace et moins performant que le http (pour le téléchargement de paquet).
> 
> gaby

Sauf que ce n'est pas un plus lourd à mettre en place un serveur http ?

Gaëtan


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Re: apt et ftp local

[Gabriel Moreau]

  C'est peut-être lié au fait que les dépôts officiels ne gèrent plus le
protocole FTP (fin avril) : peut-être ce protocole a-t-il été supprimé
d'apt ?

Cdlt,
Fred.



Bizarre parce que j'accède en ftp les dépôts officiels ...
deb [arch=amd64,i386] ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib
non-free


Il est préférable de basculer en http via un petit serveur vite 
configuré. Le support ftp va être enlever d'apt il me semble car peu 
efficace et moins performant que le http (pour le téléchargement de paquet).


gaby
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LEGI (UMR 5519) Laboratoire des Ecoulements Geophysiques et Industriels
Domaine Universitaire, CS 40700, 38041 Grenoble Cedex 9, France
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Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

[Richard Owlett]

On 05/20/2017 09:31 PM, Michael Milliman wrote:

[snip]

The bug report also lists a workaround (which I haven't tried).


The workaround is using the feh package to manually set the background
image.  This does work, however, it has to be done each time you
log-in. It is better than nothing.  Upstream also appears to have
a bug reported on it, and they suggest installation of mate-desktop
16.2 with caja 16.3, neither of which has made it to the Debian
distribution as of yet.


Being one who emphatically avoids graphics I found a subtle gotcha.

The man page  
_mentions_ setting wallpaper in passing my noting "Use --no-xinerama to 
treat the whole X display as one screen when setting wallpapers."


An example command line to use would be (as a single line):
feh --no-xinerama /usr/share/backgrounds/mate/desktop/GreenTraditional.jpg

It also does not mention how to set it as the wallpaper ;)
Once the above command has displayed the chosen image:
 1. right-click anywhere in the image
 2. chose File->Background->Set Filled from the displayed menu/sub-menus

Re: Debian Developers Have Been Listening!

[Michael Fothergill]

On 24 May 2017 at 16:22, Patrick Bartek  wrote:

> On Tue, 23 May 2017 18:45:16 -0500 David Wright
>  wrote:
>
> > On Tue 23 May 2017 at 13:42:07 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> > > It's easier, simplistic even, to replace systemd as the init (with
> > > sysvinit or runit-init) in Stretch than it was with Jessie.
> >
> > I hope you mean simple, and not that you're being simplistic!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > David.
>
> Right.  That should have been "simpler."


​I feel suitably mollified.

MF​


> I should proof read my posts
> better.
>
> B
>
>

Petite distribution Linux Live 64 bits

[andre_debian]

Bonjour,

Je recherche une petite distribution GNU/ Linux Live 64 bits.

Ils en existent beaucoup mais trop volumineuses,
plus de 750Mo, je souhaite moins de 100 Mo max.

Merci et bonne soirée,

André

erreur ligne 77 postfix main.cf

[bernard . schoenacker]

bonjour,

j'ai fait quelques recherches pour trouver l'erreur
sachant que la ligne 77 est vide

en premier les parages de la ligne 77 du main.cf :


30 relayhost =


75  COMMANDES POUR LA GESTION DES MAILS ##
76 # https://www.debian-fr.org/t/logs-postfix/63057/6
77  

78 smtpd_client_restrictions =
79 >--->--->---reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname,
80 >--->--->---reject_unknown_client_hostname,
81 >--->--->---sleep 1,
82 >--->--->---reject_unauth_pipelining,
83 >--->--->---permit_mynetworks,
84 

112 
113 smtpd_error_sleep_time = 1s
114 smtpd_soft_error_limit = 10
115 smtpd_hard_error_limit = 20
116 policy_time_limit = 3600s
117 #  policyd-spf_time_limit = 3600
118 


service postfix status (extrait) :

mai 24 18:17:43 brotsch postfix[30276]: /usr/sbin/postconf: warning: 
/etc/postfix/main.cf, line 77: overriding ea...m.sock
mai 24 18:17:43 brotsch postfix[30276]: /usr/sbin/postconf: warning: 
/etc/postfix/main.cf: unused parameter: poli...=3600s
mai 24 18:17:43 brotsch postfix[30276]: /usr/sbin/postconf: warning: 
/etc/postfix/main.cf, line 77: overriding ea...m.sock
mai 24 18:17:43 brotsch postfix[30276]: /usr/sbin/postconf: warning: 
/etc/postfix/main.cf: unused parameter: poli...=3600s
mai 24 18:17:43 brotsch postfix[30276]: .
mai 24 18:17:43 brotsch systemd[1]: Started LSB: Postfix Mail Transport Agent.
mai 24 18:17:43 brotsch postfix/master[30389]: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, 
line 77: overriding earlier entry: nsock
mai 24 18:17:43 brotsch postfix/master[30389]: daemon started -- version 
2.11.3, configuration /etc/postfix
mai 24 18:17:43 brotsch postfix/pickup[30390]: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, 
line 77: overriding earlier entry: nsock
mai 24 18:17:43 brotsch postfix/qmgr[30391]: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, 
line 77: overriding earlier entry: nonsock
Hint: Some lines were ellipsized, use -l to show in full.


grep warning /var/log/mail.warn


May 24 18:09:23 brotsch postfix/smtpd[28041]: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, 
line 77: overriding earlier entry: 
non_smtpd_milters=unix:/var/run/opendkim/opendkim.sock
May 24 18:09:23 brotsch postfix/proxymap[28042]: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, 
line 77: overriding earlier entry: 
non_smtpd_milters=unix:/var/run/opendkim/opendkim.sock
May 24 18:09:23 brotsch postfix/anvil[28043]: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, 
line 77: overriding earlier entry: 
non_smtpd_milters=unix:/var/run/opendkim/opendkim.sock
May 24 18:09:23 brotsch postfix/trivial-rewrite[28044]: warning: 
/etc/postfix/main.cf, line 77: overriding earlier entry: 
non_smtpd_milters=unix:/var/run/opendkim/opendkim.sock
May 24 18:09:25 brotsch postfix/smtpd[28041]: warning: connect to 
private/policy: No such file or directory
May 24 18:09:26 brotsch postfix/smtpd[28041]: warning: connect to 
private/policy: No such file or directory
May 24 18:09:26 brotsch postfix/smtpd[28041]: warning: problem talking to 
server private/policy: No such file or directory


touch /var/run/opendkim/opendkim.sock

service postfix restart
service postfix status

mai 24 18:29:55 brotsch postfix/master[1221]: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, 
line 77: overriding earlier entry: 
non_smtpd_milters=unix:/var/run/opendkim/opendkim.sock
mai 24 18:29:55 brotsch postfix/pickup[1222]: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, 
line 77: overriding earlier entry: 
non_smtpd_milters=unix:/var/run/opendkim/opendkim.sock
mai 24 18:29:55 brotsch postfix/qmgr[1223]: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, line 
77: overriding earlier entry: 
non_smtpd_milters=unix:/var/run/opendkim/opendkim.sock
mai 24 18:34:25 brotsch postfix/smtpd[2465]: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, 
line 77: overriding earlier entry: 
non_smtpd_milters=unix:/var/run/opendkim/opendkim.sock
mai 24 18:34:25 brotsch postfix/proxymap[2466]: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, 
line 77: overriding earlier entry: 
non_smtpd_milters=unix:/var/run/opendkim/opendkim.sock
mai 24 18:34:25 brotsch postfix/anvil[2467]: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, 
line 77: overriding earlier entry: 
non_smtpd_milters=unix:/var/run/opendkim/opendkim.sock


 tail /var/log/mail.warn
May 24 18:29:55 brotsch postfix/master[1193]: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, 
line 77: overriding earlier entry: 
non_smtpd_milters=unix:/var/run/opendkim/opendkim.sock
May 24 18:29:55 brotsch postfix/master[1221]: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, 
line 77: overriding earlier entry: 
non_smtpd_milters=unix:/var/run/opendkim/opendkim.sock
May 24 18:29:55 brotsch postfix/pickup[1222]: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, 
line 77: overriding earlier entry: 
non_smtpd_milters=unix:/var/run/opendkim/opendkim.sock
May 24 18:29:55 brotsch postfix/qmgr[1223]: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, line 
77: overriding earlier entry: 
non_smtpd_milters=unix:/var/run/opendkim/opendkim.sock
May 24 18:34:25 brotsch postfix/smtpd[2465]: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, 
line 77: overriding earlier entry: 

Trouble with Sierra Wireless MC7710 mSATA LTE Modem

[Jonathan Marquardt]

Hi!

I am trying to get this thing working.

Debian 8.8 on Lenovo ThinkPad X220

Originally, Linux seems to detect the thing but then does nothing with it.

dmesg:

##

[1.950070] usb 2-1.4: config 1 has an invalid interface number: 7 but max 
is 5
[1.950079] usb 2-1.4: config 1 has no interface number 5
[1.952051] usb 2-1.4: New USB device found, idVendor=1199, idProduct=68a3
[1.952070] usb 2-1.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, 
SerialNumber=4
[1.952075] usb 2-1.4: Product: MC7710
[1.952080] usb 2-1.4: Manufacturer: Sierra Wireless, Incorporated
[1.952084] usb 2-1.4: SerialNumber: 358178040028229

##

ifconfig doesn't list any wwan0, no /dev/ttyUSB* exists.

So after a lot of searching I found this forum post:
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2121838
User bmork created a udev rule there which appearently works for the Ubuntu 
guy over there. So I copied the rule and created it for me as well. I'm 
copying it here just in case:

##

ACTION!="add|change", GOTO="mbim_to_qmi_rules_end"

SUBSYSTEM!="usb", GOTO="mbim_to_qmi_rules_end"

# ignore any device with only one configuration
ATTR{bNumConfigurations}=="1", GOTO="mbim_to_qmi_rules_end"

# force Sierra Wireless MC7710 to configuration #1
ATTR{idVendor}=="1199",ATTR{idProduct}=="68a2",ATTR{bConfigurationValue}="1"

LABEL="mbim_to_qmi_rules_end"

##

Now dmesg says a few more things after a reboot:

##

[1.950070] usb 2-1.4: config 1 has an invalid interface number: 7 but max 
is 5
[1.950079] usb 2-1.4: config 1 has no interface number 5
[1.952051] usb 2-1.4: New USB device found, idVendor=1199, idProduct=68a3
[1.952070] usb 2-1.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, 
SerialNumber=4
[1.952075] usb 2-1.4: Product: MC7710
[1.952080] usb 2-1.4: Manufacturer: Sierra Wireless, Incorporated
[1.952084] usb 2-1.4: SerialNumber: 358178040028229



[6.549427] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial
[6.549437] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic
[6.549445] usbserial: USB Serial support registered for generic
[6.550227] usbcore: registered new interface driver sierra
[6.550235] usbserial: USB Serial support registered for Sierra USB modem
[6.550251] sierra 2-1.4:1.0: Sierra USB modem converter detected
[6.550748] usb 2-1.4: Sierra USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[6.550765] sierra 2-1.4:1.1: Sierra USB modem converter detected
[6.551106] usb 2-1.4: Sierra USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB1
[6.551121] sierra 2-1.4:1.2: Sierra USB modem converter detected
[6.551476] usb 2-1.4: Sierra USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB2
[6.551491] sierra 2-1.4:1.3: Sierra USB modem converter detected
[6.551895] usb 2-1.4: Sierra USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB3
[6.551908] sierra 2-1.4:1.4: Sierra USB modem converter detected
[6.552328] usb 2-1.4: Sierra USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB4
[6.553662] systemd-udevd[283]: starting version 215
[6.556804] sierra_net 2-1.4:1.7 wwan0: register 'sierra_net' at 
usb-:00:1d.0-1.4, Sierra Wireless USB-to-WWAN Modem, 36:74:99:5c:01:07
[6.558933] usbcore: registered new interface driver sierra_net



[9.855501] usb 2-1.4: USB disconnect, device number 3
[9.855593] sierra ttyUSB2: resubmit read urb failed.(-19)
[9.855842] sierra ttyUSB1: resubmit read urb failed.(-19)   
 
[9.856130] sierra ttyUSB0: Sierra USB modem converter now disconnected from 
ttyUSB0
[9.856142] sierra 2-1.4:1.0: device disconnected
[9.856288] sierra ttyUSB1: Sierra USB modem converter now disconnected from 
ttyUSB1
[9.856298] sierra 2-1.4:1.1: device disconnected
[9.856843] sierra ttyUSB2: Sierra USB modem converter now disconnected from 
ttyUSB2
[9.856854] sierra 2-1.4:1.2: device disconnected
[9.856967] sierra ttyUSB3: Sierra USB modem converter now disconnected from 
ttyUSB3
[9.856980] sierra 2-1.4:1.3: device disconnected
[9.857091] sierra ttyUSB4: Sierra USB modem converter now disconnected from 
ttyUSB4
[9.857104] sierra 2-1.4:1.4: device disconnected
[9.860717] sierra_net 2-1.4:1.7 wwan0: unregister 'sierra_net' 
usb-:00:1d.0-1.4, Sierra Wireless USB-to-WWAN Modem
[9.909695] sierra_net 2-1.4:1.7 (unregistered net_device): usb_control_msg 
failed, status -19

##

So, now ttyUSB{1..4} are being created, the drivers are being loaded and 
everything, but shortly after during the booting process the "USB" device 
(it's actually mSATA) disconnects. Has someone an idea what's going on? What 
am I missing?
-- 

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Conferencia Internacional de Software Libre – CubaConf 2017

[asanch...@e-compugraf.com]

El 24/05/17 a las 08:28, Maikel Enrique Pernía Matos escribió:
> ¿Qué es CubaConf?
>
>
> Este es el primer paquete de boletos para la Conferencia Internacional
> de Software Libre en Cuba.
>
> Los precios se diferencian por país de origen (según la solicitud).
>
> Los tickets de 100 EUR (Admisión General) es para las personas de países
> económicamente desarrollas (pero si eres económicamente solvente en un
> país más pobre, por favor, solicita en esta categoría).
>
> La categoría de 25 euros es para las personas de países económicamente
> en vías de desarrollo (nos referimos a África, América Central y del
> Sur. Si le toca venir de otro país, por favor póngase en contacto con
> nosotros en forma individual).
Y México como paga, como país desarrollado.

Si saben que es en América del Norte.

> Los cubanos no tienen que pagar pero realizan su inscripción mediante
> correo electrónico a la dirección electrónica cubac...@cubaconf.org con
> los siguientes datos:
> Nombre:
> Apellido:
> País:
> Email:
> Organización:
> Su(s) propuesta(s) de sesión:
>
> Los tickets de 200 EUR son para apoyo económico a la Conferencia y
> conceden la admisión a la conferencia.
>
> ATENCIÓN: ¡Los tickets por menos que 100 EUR ordenados de países que no
> sean África, América Central o del Sur se consideran inválidos!
>
> Enviar propuestas:
>
> https://www.papercall.io/cubaconf2017
>
>
> --
> Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que 
> ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema 
> Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de 
> usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas
>
> Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/
>

RE: apt et ftp local

[BOITEUX, Frederic]

Bonjour,

  C'est peut-être lié au fait que les dépôts officiels ne gèrent plus le 
protocole FTP (fin avril) : peut-être ce protocole a-t-il été supprimé d'apt ?

Cdlt,
Fred.

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Re: How to Install to HDD from LIVE USB Flash Drive?

[Brian]

On Wed 24 May 2017 at 10:54:27 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:

> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 05:16:49AM -0700, Larry Dighera wrote:
> > I just burned Debian-live-testing-amd64-lxde.iso
> > https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-testing-amd64-lxde.iso
> > from
> > https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/
> > to a 16GB SD card, and was hoping to be able to install it on a partition on
> > the m.2 SSD next to dual-boot Win10. 
> > 
> > I read on one of the Debian.com pages
> > https://www.debian.org/CD/live/index.en.html , that there's supposed to be a
> > "launcher on the desktop that can be used to install while running the live
> > image." Unfortunately, I didn't find one.
> > 
> > I Googled, but was unable to find any information on how to install from the
> > live system.
> > 
> > Is anyone able to offer a pointer to the method of installing to HDD from
> > the live USB image?
> > 
> 
> If the image doesn't have the icon, it probably (but not
> certainly) doesn't have the installer.

No "probably"; not even a "possibly".

https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-testing-amd64-lxde.contents

Re: apt et ftp local

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Wed, 24 May 2017 15:51:34 +
"BOITEUX, Frederic"  a écrit:

>   Bonjour,
> 
>   C'est peut-être lié au fait que les dépôts officiels ne gèrent plus le
> protocole FTP (fin avril) : peut-être ce protocole a-t-il été supprimé
> d'apt ?
> 
>   Cdlt,
>   Fred.
> 

Bizarre parce que j'accède en ftp les dépôts officiels ...
deb [arch=amd64,i386] ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib
non-free 

Gaëtan


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Re: Debian Developers Have Been Listening!

[Patrick Bartek]

On Tue, 23 May 2017 18:45:16 -0500 David Wright
 wrote:

> On Tue 23 May 2017 at 13:42:07 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote:
> 
> > It's easier, simplistic even, to replace systemd as the init (with
> > sysvinit or runit-init) in Stretch than it was with Jessie.
> 
> I hope you mean simple, and not that you're being simplistic!
> 
> Cheers,
> David.

Right.  That should have been "simpler."  I should proof read my posts
better.

B

Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

[Fungi4All]

On 28/03/17 16:24, David Wright wrote:

> Charger in:
> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=380
> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=872000
> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=380
>
> Charger out:
> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=380
> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=872000
> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=828000
>
> IOW my baseline after 8 years is about 20% capacity.

I think at that state it is 95% (828/872) and I think these correspong to 8.28v 
and 8.72v which is as good as new.
At 8.72v the charging current is switched off to protect the battery. I would 
think these are 2 x 4.2v polymer batteries with an x amount of amph. What 
distinguishes a good battery from an old and tired one is the voltage drop 
after a certain load has been placed (resistance) and how long does it take to 
fall below a functional level.
In most cases these batteries will go down to 3.2v under load and this is when 
your electronic circuit will cut them off because amps go so high it may fry 
itself. A tired battery will show 4.18 and 2" after you hit the power button it 
will go down to 3.1v.
A broken battery will not reach 4.2v or it will go up in smoke while you are 
trying to charge it. The problem with those twin packed cells in series is that 
due to manufacturing inconsistencies you can hardly find an identical pair 
ever. One is a little bit difficient to the next. Which means that at 8.6v one 
is almost 4.4 the other is 4.2 and one is getting overcharged the other stays 
undercharged. At the end of their season the one is as good as new the other is 
all warn out from overheating cycles. When you open a cheap tablet up that has 
had battery problems it is almost visible which one of the cells is 
problematic. The other is always good!

Nothing like a fresh marine deep cycle acid lead battery, now that is some good 
vaping current :)

Re: How to Install to HDD from LIVE USB Flash Drive?

[Dan Ritter]

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 05:16:49AM -0700, Larry Dighera wrote:
> I just burned Debian-live-testing-amd64-lxde.iso
> https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-testing-amd64-lxde.iso
> from
> https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/
> to a 16GB SD card, and was hoping to be able to install it on a partition on
> the m.2 SSD next to dual-boot Win10. 
> 
> I read on one of the Debian.com pages
> https://www.debian.org/CD/live/index.en.html , that there's supposed to be a
> "launcher on the desktop that can be used to install while running the live
> image." Unfortunately, I didn't find one.
> 
> I Googled, but was unable to find any information on how to install from the
> live system.
> 
> Is anyone able to offer a pointer to the method of installing to HDD from
> the live USB image?
> 

If the image doesn't have the icon, it probably (but not
certainly) doesn't have the installer.

That's OK, if you've got network access from the live system.

(If you don't have network access, go copy a Debian install DVD
to the SD card and boot from that.)

Assuming your network is networking:

sudo apt-get install debian-installer-launcher

... 

and after a bit, you should be able to start
debian-installer-launcher from the menu.

-dsr-

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:34:22AM -0400, Fungi4All wrote:
> hello, I pasted my Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/938243
> 
> [ 65.388] Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian
> 6th line down, is the new debian9rc installer same as Debian 8.8?

> The official stretch installer will not be out till it becomes stable. There
> is a beta version of it out but I've never used it. I doubt it would say 3.16
> on it though. You can't get to GT from a v6 mustang that easy :)

You're misinterpreting the X log.  The lines in question actually say:

[65.388] Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian
[65.388] Current Operating System: Linux laptopanil 4.9.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP 
Debian 4.9.18-1 (2017-03-30) x86_64
[65.388] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-2-amd64 
root=UUID=47d1db29-628c-4a50-9ab1-808217075da8 ro quiet

Which is to say, this system is running kernel package 4.9.0-2-amd64,
but the X server was *built* by the Debian maintainers under kernel
package 3.16.0-4-amd64.  Which is not relevant to the current problem
as far as I'm aware.

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Fungi4All]

UTC Time: May 24, 2017 2:12 PM
From: anilduggir...@fastmail.fm

hello, I pasted my Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/938243

[ 65.388] Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian
6th line down, is the new debian9rc installer same as Debian 8.8?
I assume jessie was installed and then it was upgraded to stretch, right?
So some of the X and dm configuration files were based on Jessie and were just 
revised based on those settings.
That's what I think. I may be very wrong as my knowledge is incomplete.

Fungi: this is an Asus X441SA laptop, is this also mix and match laptop?

I don't know, I've never had one. I know that lenovo dell hp stuff are well 
tested and ironed out in all systems, maybe some sony toshiba etc. I know 
nothing of asus, I've used some of their mb building and repairing stuff.

I did a clean install from Debian installer of Stretch, nothing is left
from previous Jessie.
swithching *dm is still a valid idea in this case?
thanks a lot,

It was a suggestion of an easy and safe thing to do. It takes 5-10' round trip, 
or 2 reboots.
If I remember right you have lxde. Between that and Xofc it is the safest bet 
to figure out what may be wrong, the rest of the desktops I believe are much 
more demanding and have more to go wrong with.

The official stretch installer will not be out till it becomes stable. There is 
a beta version of it out but I've never used it. I doubt it would say 3.16 on 
it though. You can't get to GT from a v6 mustang that easy :)

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Anil Duggirala]

hello, I pasted my Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/938243
Fungi: this is an Asus X441SA laptop, is this also mix and match laptop?
I did a clean install from Debian installer of Stretch, nothing is left
from previous Jessie.
swithching *dm is still a valid idea in this case?
thanks a lot,

On Wed, May 24, 2017, at 08:32 AM, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 24 May 2017 at 07:57:17 -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> 
> > Oh, and also, I did not find /var/log/Xorg.0.log,
> 
> $HOME/.local/share/xorg
> 
> -- 
> Brian.
> 

Re: apt et ftp local

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Sat, 10 Sep 2016 15:14:19 +0200
Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit:

> Bonjour,
> 
> J'ai un petit dépôt apt local que j'accède en ftp.
> Jusqu'à maintenant je n'avais pas de soucis mais je viens de constater que
> apt update n'arrive plus à y accéder. Il me dit qu'il ne peut pas accéder aux
> fichiers Packages (failed to open).
> Pourtant j'accède bien aux fichiers via ftp depuis cette même machine.
> Auriez-vous une piste ?
> 
> Gaëtan

Bonjour,

je relance le sujet car je n'ai toujours pas trouvé de solution à ce problème.

Gaëtan


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Re: Dumb questions to apic

[Hans]

Hi Tomaž,
> 
> LAPIC = Local Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller
> (local refering to a CPU in a SMP system having its own controller)
Yes, local, but what does local mean? Is it hardware related or local in the 
software?

> ACPI and APM are system features directly related to power management
> (with ACPI replacing APM in recent hardware). They handle battery
> charging, putting system in sleep modes, etc.
> 

Ok, this will be controlled by the BIOS, I suppose, and there is no way, to 
deactivate it ion the BIOS completeley as the kernel has to interact with the 
BIOS?

> "Complete software ACPI independent from hardware" isn't possible. In
> the end, you need some cooperation from hardware to trip a switch if you
> want the computer to power off after shutdown.
> 

Yes, like I guessed above
> APIC and LAPIC are related to power management only in the way that
> power management related peripherals can trigger interrupts that are
> configured through them. But so does the USB controller, disk drives, etc.
> 

When I add "nolapic" to the kernel , then everything is working fine, but then 
one of the two cores disappeared. Would be nice, if I could have both cores, 
you might understand. :)

All in all, I can run the notebook (it is no need to put it into trash). It is 
an Amilo pa 2510, 2x1,7 GHz AMD Dualcore CPU, with 4,6 GB RAM and a 320GB 
harddrive. I am using it as my kali-machine.

And such bugs are also good to learn things. 

> Best regards
> Tomaž


Best regards

Hans

Issue with SASL authentication

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi all!

I am configuring SASL to authenticate against IMAP. When I try to
authenticate, I get an error:

--
root@Wserver2:~# saslpasswd2 -c daniel
--
root@Wserver2:~# testsaslauthd -u daniel -p password
0: NO "authentication failed"
--

However it works when I provide the realm:

--
root@Wserver2:~# testsaslauthd -u daniel -r server2 -p password
0: OK "Success."
--

It's strange because I have another server where it works without problems:

--
root@mail:~# testsaslauthd -u daniel -p password
0: OK "Success."
--

Both hosts have Debian Jessie and the SASL configuration is the same:

--
root@mail:~# grep ^[^#] /etc/default/saslauthd
START=yes
DESC="SASL Authentication Daemon"
NAME="saslauthd"
MECHANISMS="sasldb"
MECH_OPTIONS=""
THREADS=5
OPTIONS="-c -m /var/run/saslauthd"
--
root@server2:~# grep ^[^#] /etc/default/saslauthd
START=yes
DESC="SASL Authentication Daemon"
NAME="saslauthd"
MECHANISMS="sasldb"
MECH_OPTIONS=""
THREADS=5
OPTIONS="-c -m /var/run/saslauthd"
--

"mail" has some updates to apply, but I do not see any differences in
the versions of the SASL packages:

--
root@mail:~# aptitude show libsasl2-2 | grep Versión
Versión: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1

root@mail:~# aptitude show libsasl2-modules | grep Versión
Versión: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1

root@mail:~# aptitude show sasl2-bin | grep Versión
Versión: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1
--

--
root@server2:~# aptitude show libsasl2-2 | grep Version
Version: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1

root@server2:~# aptitude show libsasl2-modules | grep Version
Version: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1

root@server2:~# aptitude show sasl2-bin | grep Version
Version: 2.1.26.dfsg1-13+deb8u1
--

In this case I'm not doing the authentication test against IMAP but
directly against SASL, so I guess the problem will be directly related
to the SASL configuration itself.

Any thoughts about what might differ between the two environments?


Thanks in advance.

Kind regards,
Daniel



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Re: How to Install to HDD from LIVE USB Flash Drive?

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Larry Dighera wrote:
> > I read on one of the Debian.com pages
> > https://www.debian.org/CD/live/index.en.html , that there's supposed to be a
> > "launcher on the desktop that can be used to install while running the live
> > image." Unfortunately, I didn't find one.

err...@free.fr wrote:
> https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch05s01.html.en#usb-boot

I understand that Larry does not miss the desktop but rather the launcher.
If so, the SD card with the live system has already booted successfully
and thus the ISO was correctly copied to the SD card.

If not a more knowledgeable subscriber answers here, i'd repeat my question
at debian-live mailing list: https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Dumb questions to apic

[Tomaž Šolc]

On 24. 05. 2017 13:54, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> I don't know for sure, but this thing from the Inertubes looks similar
> (there it is apic, the OP is lapic, but the remaining phenomenology
> looks similar. Perhaps a search on "power off apic" turns up more
> relevant dirt :)

Let me rephrase. In the context of Linux kernel parameters that Hans is
talking about, the acronyms refer to these things:

APIC = Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller

LAPIC = Local Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller
(local refering to a CPU in a SMP system having its own controller)

ACPI = Advanced Configuration and Power Interface

APM = Advanced Power Management


ACPI and APM are system features directly related to power management
(with ACPI replacing APM in recent hardware). They handle battery
charging, putting system in sleep modes, etc.

"Complete software ACPI independent from hardware" isn't possible. In
the end, you need some cooperation from hardware to trip a switch if you
want the computer to power off after shutdown.

APIC and LAPIC are related to power management only in the way that
power management related peripherals can trigger interrupts that are
configured through them. But so does the USB controller, disk drives, etc.

Best regards
Tomaž



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Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Brian]

On Wed 24 May 2017 at 07:57:17 -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote:

> Oh, and also, I did not find /var/log/Xorg.0.log,

$HOME/.local/share/xorg

-- 
Brian.

[OFF-TOPIC] Conferencia Internacional de Software Libre – CubaConf 2017

[Maikel Enrique Pernía Matos]

¿Qué es CubaConf?

CubaConf, es una conferencia internacional sobre software libre y
tecnologías abiertas que tendrá su segunda edición en La Habana del 7 al
9 de noviembre de 2017. CubaConf es un encuentro de la comunidad
internacional de entusiastas del mundo libre de las tecnologías, con un
enfoque «peer to peer» y de desarrollo colectivo. Se busca la
participación de personas con diferentes perfiles y orígenes geográficos
variados.

Desde la organización de la conferencia, se apunta hacia la diversidad
tanto de temas y proyectos, como de sus participantes, por lo que la
participación de las mujeres, grupos minoritarios, en estas actividades
es crucial para construir nuevos espacios inclusivos de conocimiento y
diálogo en los ámbitos tecnológicos. La idea es conocer las experiencias
de las personas y organizaciones que trabajan en y con Software Libre,
con viejas tecnologías de hardware y poco ancho de banda, conversar
acerca de cómo puede ayudar el Software Libre a países en vías de
desarrollo.

La conferencia se realizará en La Habana, 7 al 9 de noviembre de 2017:
1 - El primer día habrá una variedad de sesiones y presentaciones
planificadas
2 - El segundo día se realizaran actividades en modalidad
barcamp/unconference
3 - En el tercer día habrá tiempo y espacio para trabajar juntos en
grupos pequeños en los proyectos propuestos o en cualquier tema de
interés.

Registrarse:

Este es el primer paquete de boletos para la Conferencia Internacional
de Software Libre en Cuba.

Los precios se diferencian por país de origen (según la solicitud).

Los tickets de 100 EUR (Admisión General) es para las personas de países
económicamente desarrollas (pero si eres económicamente solvente en un
país más pobre, por favor, solicita en esta categoría).

La categoría de 25 euros es para las personas de países económicamente
en vías de desarrollo (nos referimos a África, América Central y del
Sur. Si le toca venir de otro país, por favor póngase en contacto con
nosotros en forma individual).

Los cubanos no tienen que pagar pero realizan su inscripción mediante
correo electrónico a la dirección electrónica cubac...@cubaconf.org con
los siguientes datos:
Nombre:
Apellido:
País:
Email:
Organización:
Su(s) propuesta(s) de sesión:

Los tickets de 200 EUR son para apoyo económico a la Conferencia y
conceden la admisión a la conferencia.

ATENCIÓN: ¡Los tickets por menos que 100 EUR ordenados de países que no
sean África, América Central o del Sur se consideran inválidos!

Enviar propuestas:

https://www.papercall.io/cubaconf2017


--
Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que 
ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema 
Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar 
el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas

Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/

Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi, David.

On 28/03/17 16:24, David Wright wrote:

>> Yes, as I mentioned in another message in this thread, I have already
>> contacted the supplier to go asking for availability and prices.

> I'll cross my fingers for you. Please do likewise as these are
> the figures from one of my laptops:
> 
> Charger in:
> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=380
> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=872000
> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=380
> 
> Charger out:
> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=380
> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=872000
> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=828000
> 
> IOW my baseline after 8 years is about 20% capacity.

Sorry for my delay in responding.

I'll cross my fingers for you, David. How did your laptop battery continue?

Just yesterday I took my notebook to the provider to test with a new
battery. He said that today he will be contacting me to let me know the
result of the test.

I'll let you know when I have news. Something I can add since my last
update to the mailing list is that the battery charge level with the
charger connected was gradually falling. At the time I took it to the
provider I had 18%.


Many thanks to all who responded to me for the interest and time.

Kind regards,
Daniel



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Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Anil Duggirala]

Oh, and also, I did not find /var/log/Xorg.0.log, 


On Wed, May 24, 2017, at 07:52 AM, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> Thanks a lot for your replies. Yes I believe I dont have graphics
> acceleration. My interface is sluggish. I believe I am playing video
> with Totem, it has these mini freezes and then after some while starts
> to freeze badly making it unwatchabel.
> the output from inxi -c0 -G
> Graphics:  Card: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
> x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller
>Display Server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: N/A
>Resolution: 1366x768@60.00hz
>GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 405 (Braswell)
>GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.6
> 
> and from lspci -nnk | grep -A4 'VGA'
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation
> Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics
> Controller [8086:22b1] (rev 35)
>   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
>   x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller [1043:1290]
>   Kernel driver in use: i915
>   Kernel modules: i915
> 00:0b.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation
> Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Power
> Management Controller [8086:22dc] (rev 35)
> 
> and from dpkg -l | grep mware
> ii  firmware-realtek  20161130-2
>   all  Binary firmware for Realtek wired/wifi/BT adapters
> ii  libfwupd1:amd64   0.7.4-2   
>   amd64Firmware update daemon library
> ii  xserver-xorg-video-vmware 1:13.2.1-1+b1 
>   amd64X.Org X server -- VMware display driver
> 
> Thanks a lot, 
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 24, 2017, at 07:18 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 06:06:44PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> > > Looking up 8086:22b1 finds the keyword Braswell, which provides the all
> > > important date of introduction of it. It was introduced more than 8 
> > > months after
> > > Jessie, thus not supported by pure Jessie.
> > > 
> > > Gnome *should* be working fine since he installed Stretch.
> > 
> > We had a user with a Braswell system (Intel Pentium N3710) in IRC
> > yesterday, and he was not even able to *boot* into stretch normally
> > (hard-locked with a black screen and no logs written to disk, even in
> > rescue mode, unless he suppled the "nomodeset" kernel option).  He could
> > boot jessie, but the graphics ran without acceleration.
> > 
> > There's definitely some room for improvement in Debian's support of
> > Intel Braswell systems.  But we'll need a whole lot more information.
> > 
> 

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Anil Duggirala]

Thanks a lot for your replies. Yes I believe I dont have graphics
acceleration. My interface is sluggish. I believe I am playing video
with Totem, it has these mini freezes and then after some while starts
to freeze badly making it unwatchabel.
the output from inxi -c0 -G
Graphics:  Card: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller
   Display Server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: N/A
   Resolution: 1366x768@60.00hz
   GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 405 (Braswell)
   GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.6

and from lspci -nnk | grep -A4 'VGA'
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation
Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics
Controller [8086:22b1] (rev 35)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller [1043:1290]
Kernel driver in use: i915
Kernel modules: i915
00:0b.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation
Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Power
Management Controller [8086:22dc] (rev 35)

and from dpkg -l | grep mware
ii  firmware-realtek  20161130-2
  all  Binary firmware for Realtek wired/wifi/BT adapters
ii  libfwupd1:amd64   0.7.4-2   
  amd64Firmware update daemon library
ii  xserver-xorg-video-vmware 1:13.2.1-1+b1 
  amd64X.Org X server -- VMware display driver

Thanks a lot, 


On Wed, May 24, 2017, at 07:18 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 06:06:44PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> > Looking up 8086:22b1 finds the keyword Braswell, which provides the all
> > important date of introduction of it. It was introduced more than 8 months 
> > after
> > Jessie, thus not supported by pure Jessie.
> > 
> > Gnome *should* be working fine since he installed Stretch.
> 
> We had a user with a Braswell system (Intel Pentium N3710) in IRC
> yesterday, and he was not even able to *boot* into stretch normally
> (hard-locked with a black screen and no logs written to disk, even in
> rescue mode, unless he suppled the "nomodeset" kernel option).  He could
> boot jessie, but the graphics ran without acceleration.
> 
> There's definitely some room for improvement in Debian's support of
> Intel Braswell systems.  But we'll need a whole lot more information.
> 

Re: How to Install to HDD from LIVE USB Flash Drive?

[err404]

On 05/24/2017 02:16 PM, Larry Dighera wrote:
> I just burned Debian-live-testing-amd64-lxde.iso
...
> Is anyone able to offer a pointer to the method of installing to HDD from
> the live USB image?
> 
> ADVthanksANCE 
> 
Hello larry

you need to boot from your usb stick:

like this:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch05s01.html.en#usb-boot

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Greg Wooledge]

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 06:06:44PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Looking up 8086:22b1 finds the keyword Braswell, which provides the all
> important date of introduction of it. It was introduced more than 8 months 
> after
> Jessie, thus not supported by pure Jessie.
> 
> Gnome *should* be working fine since he installed Stretch.

We had a user with a Braswell system (Intel Pentium N3710) in IRC
yesterday, and he was not even able to *boot* into stretch normally
(hard-locked with a black screen and no logs written to disk, even in
rescue mode, unless he suppled the "nomodeset" kernel option).  He could
boot jessie, but the graphics ran without acceleration.

There's definitely some room for improvement in Debian's support of
Intel Braswell systems.  But we'll need a whole lot more information.

How to Install to HDD from LIVE USB Flash Drive?

[Larry Dighera]

I just burned Debian-live-testing-amd64-lxde.iso
https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-testing-amd64-lxde.iso
from
https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/
to a 16GB SD card, and was hoping to be able to install it on a partition on
the m.2 SSD next to dual-boot Win10. 

I read on one of the Debian.com pages
https://www.debian.org/CD/live/index.en.html , that there's supposed to be a
"launcher on the desktop that can be used to install while running the live
image." Unfortunately, I didn't find one.

I Googled, but was unable to find any information on how to install from the
live system.

Is anyone able to offer a pointer to the method of installing to HDD from
the live USB image?

ADVthanksANCE 

Re: Victor lino

[Guido Ignacio]

El 24 de mayo de 2017, 4:33, Dixan Rivas  escribió:

> No prestes mucha atención al tema que hay personas son muy sensibles y
> fácilmente ofendidas y si esa persona es de origen Argentino o mas conocido
> como Europeos de Latinoamérica pues la probabilidad que se ofenda es aun
> mayor. Lo que quisiste decir yo lo entendí perfectamente, que busque el lo
> que significa eso en tu país y deje de llorar que esto es una lista de
> debian si esta aquí no debería ser tan fácilmente ofendido, para esas
> personas están las listas de OSX.
>
>
> Saludos
>
>
> El 24/05/17 a las 03:54, Juan Lavieri escribió:
>
> Hola.
>
> El 23-05-2017 a las 03:52 p.m., Guido Ignacio escribió:
>
> El 23 de mayo de 2017, 16:05, Juan Lavieri  escribió:
>
>>
>>
>> El 23-05-2017 a las 02:13 p.m., Guido Ignacio escribió:
>>
>> 2017-05-23 14:34 GMT-03:00 Víctor Lino :
>>
>>> Quiciera dar ideas
>>>
>> yo también, adquirí un diccionario urgente!
>>
>>
>> Como decimos acá en Venezuela, Guido ¡Te la comiste!
>>
>> Mira que me hiciste reir un buen rato.
>>
>> Saludos
>>
>> --
>> Juan M Lavieri
>>
>> Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.
>>
>>
> No se que será allá "te la comiste" pero acá en Argentina no es grato que
> te lo digan
>
>
> En primer quisiera presentar mis excusas a Guido y a todo aque que se haya
> sentido afectado de alguna manera.
>
> Agradezco que se me haya permitido entender que existen expresiones que
> usamos localmente, que bien pudieran hasta ofender a personas nativas en
> otros lugares distintos a los nuestros.
>
> No quisiera responder directamente acerca del significado de la expresión
> que causó esta controversia, por lo que me tomo la libertad de agregar
> algunos enlaces que tal vez lo aclaren;  aqui están algunos:
>
> http://www.tubabel.com/definicion/35141-te-la-comiste
> http://www.blindworlds.com/publicacion/70069  (favor buscarla en la letra
> "T")
> http://untiposerio.com/el-lenguaje-del-vendedor-venezolano/(aqui es
> la número 8)
> https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/te-la-comiste.1089821/?hl=es  (la
> penúltima entrada)
>
> Saludos.
>
> --
> Juan M Lavieri
>
> Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.
>
>
>
Nadie se ofendió, no te preocupes!

Re: Dumb questions to apic

[tomas]

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On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 01:40:56PM +0200, Tomaž Šolc wrote:
> On 24. 05. 2017 13:04, Hans wrote:
> > "lapic" is local apic, but what is this?
> 
> APIC is Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller. This is not directly
> related to power management. Interrupt controller manages how the
> processor receives interrupts from peripherals. It seems unlikely that
> it could be related to your problems.

Hah. This is Intel architecture. Entropy itself. Nothing is unlikely.

I don't know for sure, but this thing from the Inertubes looks similar
(there it is apic, the OP is lapic, but the remaining phenomenology
looks similar. Perhaps a search on "power off apic" turns up more
relevant dirt :)

cheers
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Re: Victor lino

[walter]

Romero, Fernando:
>
> Europeos de latinomaerica…. Las cosas que hay que leer, es verdad que
> hay gente mas sensible que otra como pero bueno…. No todos nos
> ofendemos fáciles.
>
> No hay que generalizar, yo no lo hago, por un comentario xenófobos
> como el de Walter no voy a generalizar y decir que todos los europeo
> los son como Walter, por suerte son los menos
>
>  
>
> *De:*walter [mailto:iqsiste...@gmail.com]
> *Enviado el:* miércoles, 24 de mayo de 2017 8:25 a. m.
> *Para:* debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
> *Asunto:* Re: Victor lino
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Dixan Rivas:
>
> No prestes mucha atención al tema que hay personas son muy
> sensibles y fácilmente ofendidas y si esa persona es de origen
> Argentino o mas conocido como Europeos de Latinoamérica pues la
> probabilidad que se ofenda es aun mayor. Lo que quisiste decir yo
> lo entendí perfectamente, que busque el lo que significa eso en tu
> país y deje de llorar que esto es una lista de debian si esta aquí
> no debería ser tan fácilmente ofendido, para esas personas están
> las listas de OSX.
>
>  
>
> Saludos
>
>  
>
> El 24/05/17 a las 03:54, Juan Lavieri escribió:
>
> Hola.
>
>  
>
> El 23-05-2017 a las 03:52 p.m., Guido Ignacio escribió:
>
> El 23 de mayo de 2017, 16:05, Juan Lavieri
> > escribió:
>
>  
>
>  
>
> El 23-05-2017 a las 02:13 p.m., Guido Ignacio escribió:
>
> 2017-05-23 14:34 GMT-03:00 Víctor Lino
>  >:
>
> Quiciera dar ideas
>
> yo también, adquirí un diccionario urgente!
>
>  
>
> Como decimos acá en Venezuela, Guido ¡Te la comiste!
>
> Mira que me hiciste reir un buen rato.
>
> Saludos
>
>
> -- 
>
> Juan M Lavieri
>
>  
>
> Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los
> demás.
>
>  
>
> No se que será allá "te la comiste" pero acá en Argentina
> no es grato que te lo digan
>
>
> En primer quisiera presentar mis excusas a Guido y a todo aque
> que se haya sentido afectado de alguna manera.
>
> Agradezco que se me haya permitido entender que existen
> expresiones que usamos localmente, que bien pudieran hasta
> ofender a personas nativas en otros lugares distintos a los
> nuestros.
>
> No quisiera responder directamente acerca del significado de
> la expresión que causó esta controversia, por lo que me tomo
> la libertad de agregar algunos enlaces que tal vez lo
> aclaren;  aqui están algunos:
>
> http://www.tubabel.com/definicion/35141-te-la-comiste
> http://www.blindworlds.com/publicacion/70069  (favor buscarla
> en la letra "T")
> http://untiposerio.com/el-lenguaje-del-vendedor-venezolano/   
> (aqui es la número 8)
> https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/te-la-comiste.1089821/?hl=es 
> (la penúltima entrada)
>
> Saludos.
>
>
> -- 
>
> Juan M Lavieri
>
>  
>
> Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.
>
>  
>
> Juajuajaujauajj..
>
> y aunque soy "europeo" de Latinoamerica No me ofende...  mas
> me ofende que no acepten que somos "europeos y Geniales... inteligentes
> magnanimos.y el PAPA es Argentino... junto a Maradona...
> Messi. Favaloroetc, etc.etc..."
>
> che abrazo a todos... no hay por que ofenderse  por tonterias!!...
> la vida es complicada. para encima andar enojandose en las lista de
> correo...
> en todo caso el que se ofende... le recomiendo que use su valioso
> tiempo en leer otras cosas... como por ejemplo a  Jorge  Luis
> Borges... (oooh es Argentino  tambien)...
>
> y me gustaria leer las ideas de Victor Lino!!!
>



por las dudas... a los que mal interpreten mi correo yo solo hice un
Chiste Broma.. Chascarrillo!!!  Abrazos para Todos

RE: Victor lino

[Romero, Fernando]

Puse como Walter, perdón me confundi

De: Romero, Fernando [mailto:fernando.rom...@lineamitre.gob.ar]
Enviado el: miércoles, 24 de mayo de 2017 8:42 a. m.
Para: walter ; debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Asunto: RE: Victor lino

Europeos de latinomaerica…. Las cosas que hay que leer, es verdad que hay gente 
mas sensible que otra como pero bueno…. No todos nos ofendemos fáciles.
No hay que generalizar, yo no lo hago, por un comentario xenófobos como el de 
Walter no voy a generalizar y decir que todos los europeo los son como Walter, 
por suerte son los menos

De: walter [mailto:iqsiste...@gmail.com]
Enviado el: miércoles, 24 de mayo de 2017 8:25 a. m.
Para: 
debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Asunto: Re: Victor lino




Dixan Rivas:

No prestes mucha atención al tema que hay personas son muy sensibles y 
fácilmente ofendidas y si esa persona es de origen Argentino o mas conocido 
como Europeos de Latinoamérica pues la probabilidad que se ofenda es aun mayor. 
Lo que quisiste decir yo lo entendí perfectamente, que busque el lo que 
significa eso en tu país y deje de llorar que esto es una lista de debian si 
esta aquí no debería ser tan fácilmente ofendido, para esas personas están las 
listas de OSX.



Saludos


El 24/05/17 a las 03:54, Juan Lavieri escribió:

Hola.

El 23-05-2017 a las 03:52 p.m., Guido Ignacio escribió:
El 23 de mayo de 2017, 16:05, Juan Lavieri 
> escribió:



El 23-05-2017 a las 02:13 p.m., Guido Ignacio escribió:
2017-05-23 14:34 GMT-03:00 Víctor Lino 
>:

Quiciera dar ideas
yo también, adquirí un diccionario urgente!

Como decimos acá en Venezuela, Guido ¡Te la comiste!

Mira que me hiciste reir un buen rato.

Saludos


--

Juan M Lavieri



Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.

No se que será allá "te la comiste" pero acá en Argentina no es grato que te lo 
digan

En primer quisiera presentar mis excusas a Guido y a todo aque que se haya 
sentido afectado de alguna manera.

Agradezco que se me haya permitido entender que existen expresiones que usamos 
localmente, que bien pudieran hasta ofender a personas nativas en otros lugares 
distintos a los nuestros.

No quisiera responder directamente acerca del significado de la expresión que 
causó esta controversia, por lo que me tomo la libertad de agregar algunos 
enlaces que tal vez lo aclaren;  aqui están algunos:

http://www.tubabel.com/definicion/35141-te-la-comiste
http://www.blindworlds.com/publicacion/70069  (favor buscarla en la letra "T")
http://untiposerio.com/el-lenguaje-del-vendedor-venezolano/(aqui es la 
número 8)
https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/te-la-comiste.1089821/?hl=es  (la 
penúltima entrada)

Saludos.


--

Juan M Lavieri



Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.

Juajuajaujauajj..

y aunque soy "europeo" de Latinoamerica No me ofende...  mas me ofende 
que no acepten que somos "europeos y Geniales... inteligentes
magnanimos.y el PAPA es Argentino... junto a Maradona... Messi. 
Favaloroetc, etc.etc..."

che abrazo a todos... no hay por que ofenderse  por tonterias!!... la vida 
es complicada. para encima andar enojandose en las lista de correo...
en todo caso el que se ofende... le recomiendo que use su valioso tiempo en 
leer otras cosas... como por ejemplo a  Jorge  Luis Borges... (oooh es 
Argentino  tambien)...

y me gustaria leer las ideas de Victor Lino!!!

RE: Victor lino

[Romero, Fernando]

Europeos de latinomaerica…. Las cosas que hay que leer, es verdad que hay gente 
mas sensible que otra como pero bueno…. No todos nos ofendemos fáciles.
No hay que generalizar, yo no lo hago, por un comentario xenófobos como el de 
Walter no voy a generalizar y decir que todos los europeo los son como Walter, 
por suerte son los menos

De: walter [mailto:iqsiste...@gmail.com]
Enviado el: miércoles, 24 de mayo de 2017 8:25 a. m.
Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Asunto: Re: Victor lino




Dixan Rivas:

No prestes mucha atención al tema que hay personas son muy sensibles y 
fácilmente ofendidas y si esa persona es de origen Argentino o mas conocido 
como Europeos de Latinoamérica pues la probabilidad que se ofenda es aun mayor. 
Lo que quisiste decir yo lo entendí perfectamente, que busque el lo que 
significa eso en tu país y deje de llorar que esto es una lista de debian si 
esta aquí no debería ser tan fácilmente ofendido, para esas personas están las 
listas de OSX.



Saludos


El 24/05/17 a las 03:54, Juan Lavieri escribió:

Hola.

El 23-05-2017 a las 03:52 p.m., Guido Ignacio escribió:
El 23 de mayo de 2017, 16:05, Juan Lavieri 
> escribió:



El 23-05-2017 a las 02:13 p.m., Guido Ignacio escribió:
2017-05-23 14:34 GMT-03:00 Víctor Lino 
>:

Quiciera dar ideas
yo también, adquirí un diccionario urgente!

Como decimos acá en Venezuela, Guido ¡Te la comiste!

Mira que me hiciste reir un buen rato.

Saludos



--

Juan M Lavieri



Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.

No se que será allá "te la comiste" pero acá en Argentina no es grato que te lo 
digan

En primer quisiera presentar mis excusas a Guido y a todo aque que se haya 
sentido afectado de alguna manera.

Agradezco que se me haya permitido entender que existen expresiones que usamos 
localmente, que bien pudieran hasta ofender a personas nativas en otros lugares 
distintos a los nuestros.

No quisiera responder directamente acerca del significado de la expresión que 
causó esta controversia, por lo que me tomo la libertad de agregar algunos 
enlaces que tal vez lo aclaren;  aqui están algunos:

http://www.tubabel.com/definicion/35141-te-la-comiste
http://www.blindworlds.com/publicacion/70069  (favor buscarla en la letra "T")
http://untiposerio.com/el-lenguaje-del-vendedor-venezolano/(aqui es la 
número 8)
https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/te-la-comiste.1089821/?hl=es  (la 
penúltima entrada)

Saludos.



--

Juan M Lavieri



Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.

Juajuajaujauajj..

y aunque soy "europeo" de Latinoamerica No me ofende...  mas me ofende 
que no acepten que somos "europeos y Geniales... inteligentes
magnanimos.y el PAPA es Argentino... junto a Maradona... Messi. 
Favaloroetc, etc.etc..."

che abrazo a todos... no hay por que ofenderse  por tonterias!!... la vida 
es complicada. para encima andar enojandose en las lista de correo...
en todo caso el que se ofende... le recomiendo que use su valioso tiempo en 
leer otras cosas... como por ejemplo a  Jorge  Luis Borges... (oooh es 
Argentino  tambien)...

y me gustaria leer las ideas de Victor Lino!!!

Re: Dumb questions to apic

[Tomaž Šolc]

On 24. 05. 2017 13:04, Hans wrote:
> "lapic" is local apic, but what is this?

APIC is Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller. This is not directly
related to power management. Interrupt controller manages how the
processor receives interrupts from peripherals. It seems unlikely that
it could be related to your problems.

Best regards
Tomaž



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Re: Victor lino

[walter]

Dixan Rivas:
>
> No prestes mucha atención al tema que hay personas son muy sensibles y
> fácilmente ofendidas y si esa persona es de origen Argentino o mas
> conocido como Europeos de Latinoamérica pues la probabilidad que se
> ofenda es aun mayor. Lo que quisiste decir yo lo entendí
> perfectamente, que busque el lo que significa eso en tu país y deje de
> llorar que esto es una lista de debian si esta aquí no debería ser tan
> fácilmente ofendido, para esas personas están las listas de OSX.
>
>
> Saludos
>
>
> El 24/05/17 a las 03:54, Juan Lavieri escribió:
>>
>> Hola.
>>
>>
>> El 23-05-2017 a las 03:52 p.m., Guido Ignacio escribió:
>>> El 23 de mayo de 2017, 16:05, Juan Lavieri >> > escribió:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> El 23-05-2017 a las 02:13 p.m., Guido Ignacio escribió:
 2017-05-23 14:34 GMT-03:00 Víctor Lino
 >:

 Quiciera dar ideas

 yo también, adquirí un diccionario urgente!
>>>
>>> Como decimos acá en Venezuela, Guido ¡Te la comiste!
>>>
>>> Mira que me hiciste reir un buen rato.
>>>
>>> Saludos
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Juan M Lavieri
>>>
>>> Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.
>>>
>>>
>>> No se que será allá "te la comiste" pero acá en Argentina no es
>>> grato que te lo digan
>>
>> En primer quisiera presentar mis excusas a Guido y a todo aque que se
>> haya sentido afectado de alguna manera.
>>
>> Agradezco que se me haya permitido entender que existen expresiones
>> que usamos localmente, que bien pudieran hasta ofender a personas
>> nativas en otros lugares distintos a los nuestros.
>>
>> No quisiera responder directamente acerca del significado de la
>> expresión que causó esta controversia, por lo que me tomo la libertad
>> de agregar algunos enlaces que tal vez lo aclaren;  aqui están algunos:
>>
>> http://www.tubabel.com/definicion/35141-te-la-comiste
>> http://www.blindworlds.com/publicacion/70069  (favor buscarla en la
>> letra "T")
>> http://untiposerio.com/el-lenguaje-del-vendedor-venezolano/(aqui
>> es la número 8)
>> https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/te-la-comiste.1089821/?hl=es 
>> (la penúltima entrada)
>>
>> Saludos.
>>
>> -- 
>> Juan M Lavieri
>>
>> Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.
>
Juajuajaujauajj..

y aunque soy "europeo" de Latinoamerica No me ofende...  mas me
ofende que no acepten que somos "europeos y Geniales... inteligentes
magnanimos.y el PAPA es Argentino... junto a Maradona... Messi.
Favaloroetc, etc.etc..."

che abrazo a todos... no hay por que ofenderse  por tonterias!!...
la vida es complicada. para encima andar enojandose en las lista de
correo...
en todo caso el que se ofende... le recomiendo que use su valioso tiempo
en leer otras cosas... como por ejemplo a  Jorge  Luis Borges...
(oooh es Argentino  tambien)...

y me gustaria leer las ideas de Victor Lino!!!

Re: Error on install: Repository "couldn't be accessed"

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2017-05-23, Robert Hardy (r.hardy)  wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions. However, this isn't an issue with the URL
> in sources.list. I've tried the following:
>
> * installing using httpredir.debian.org (deb.debian.org isn't in the
> list of mirrors in the installer) - same error results.  * modifying
> the URL to deb.debian.org in sources.list and running apt-get update,
> same error results (see below).  * attempting to download the file
> Translation-en.bz2 from the repository
> (http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie-updates/main/i18n/)
> - download times out.
>
> It looks like there is an issue with the mirror, which I'll report as
> a bug. However, I would appreciate advice on whether we should trust
> the installed system, given the missing file, or if it is likely that
> we will encounter ongoing issues arising from this.
>
> Yours, Rob
>
[...]

I'm afraid I can't help you with the issue you're facing, and I can't
reproduce it on a jessie box. My contribution was simply to point out
that httpredir.debian.org is deprecated.

Interestingly, I can download the file Translation-en.bz2 from
cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org without a hitch. The problem appears to be at
your end, not with the mirror.

By the way, please don't top-post. It irritates people here.

>
> -Original Message- From: Liam O'Toole
> [mailto:liam.p.oto...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 May 2017 14:07 To:
> debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Error on install: Repository
> "couldn't be accessed"
>
> On 2017-05-17, RavenLX  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 05/17/2017 12:20 PM, Robert Hardy (r.hardy) wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I received this message when installing from the Debian 8.8
>>> netinstall ISO (debian-8.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso)
>>>
>>> Initial error was for ftp.uk.debian.org . I
>>> tried several others (including ftp.fr.debian.org
>>>  and  mirror.bytemark.co.uk) with similar
>>> errors.
>>>
>>> Continued with the install, which appeared to go OK otherwise. Found
>>> that two lines were commented out in sources.list, post install:
>>>
>>> # jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
>>>
>>> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
>>>
>>> #deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main
>>>
>>> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
>>>
>>> #deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main
>>>
>>> Uncommented these, and received the following errors on running
>>> apt-get update:
>>>
>>> Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org jessie/main Translation-en
>>>
>>> Err http://ftp.uk.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en
>>>
>>> Err http://ftp.uk.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en
>>>
>>> Err http://ftp.uk.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en
>>>
>>>404  Not Found [IP: 78.129.164.123 80]
>>>
>>> Fetched 168 kB in 6min 3s (463 B/s)
>>>
>>> W: Failed to fetch
>>> http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie-updates/main/i18n/Transl
>>> ation-en 404  Not Found [IP: 78.129.164.123 80]
>>>
>>> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or
>>> old ones used instead.
>>>
>>>   * Is this a known issue?  * Should I have any concerns about
>>>   stability / missing files follow this?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> I had that happened. I then changed all the http://ftp.* to
>> http://httpredir.debian.org. I learned of this here:
>>
>> https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#Example_sources.list
>>
>> Then I apt-get update and it worked fine from there.
>
> Just a FYI: the recommended redirector is now http://deb.debian.org/.
>
> --
>
> Liam
>
> [175 YEARS OF EXCELLENCE]
>
>
> This email and any files transmitted with it were intended solely for
> the addressee. If you have received this email in error please let the
> sender know by return.
>
> Please think before you print.
>
>

-- 

Liam

Dumb questions to apic

[Hans]

Dear list,

this is a little bit offtopic. I got a broken notebook as a gift (did not 
start, no bios screen, nothing!). Now I managed to get it running again. 
Everything is working, execpt the bios.
The bios is broken, and the backup battery is empty in seconds.

But that is not the problem, just background info.

I can start the notebook, and debian/testing is running fine. But when I want 
to reboot or shutdown the notebook, it does not switch off. I believe, it is a 
bios problem.

So I tried with several kernel parameters. I tried

acpi=force
apm=off
noacpi

But none of them worked. When I tried "nolapic", then I can reboot and 
shutoff, but then only one cpu is available.

As I do not know, where to search, I googled to get information, the meaning 
of acpi, nolapic and so on. "lapic" is local apic, but what is this? And can I 
switch completely to a software acpi, so that I am independent from the 
hardware? Which kernel command is the choice?

Hope, someone can make this little point clearer.

Best regards

Hans

Re: phpmyadmin ... need help!

[Joe]

On Wed, 24 May 2017 06:17:35 -0400
Fungi4All  wrote:

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: phpmyadmin ... need help!
> UTC Time: May 23, 2017 8:18 PM
> From: j...@jretrading.com
> 
> Yes, you've done it backwards, but it's no big deal in Debian.
> phpmyadmin needs the root password of mysql in order to install
> 
> In all other systems it is a catastrophic mistake, but in Debian it
> is no biggy, you just throw everything away and start from
> scratch. :) :) :) :) LoLLL
> 

The point being that throwing phpmyadmin away and reinstalling is
trivial, whatever the OS. As I said, it's just a few web server scripts.
Debian just makes it even more trivial, and makes setting up mysql just
as easy. We recently went through this with mariadb, and I discovered
that setting that up isn't so easy, since there is no postinstall script
supplied by Debian like the mysql one.

Had things been the other way around, and the OP had installed mysql
and twenty applications which use it, and they had all set up their
users and databases, and that lot had to be reinstalled... yes, that
would have been a big deal, in Debian or anything else.

-- 
Joe

Re: phpmyadmin ... need help!

[Fungi4All]

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: phpmyadmin ... need help!
UTC Time: May 23, 2017 8:18 PM
From: j...@jretrading.com

Yes, you've done it backwards, but it's no big deal in Debian.
phpmyadmin needs the root password of mysql in order to install

In all other systems it is a catastrophic mistake, but in Debian it is no 
biggy, you just throw everything away and start from scratch. :) :) :) :) LoLLL

Sorry, I spent some time in my youth in sales, I know what it's like. Otherwise 
the advise was compact and sensible. One question I have is why isn't dpkg 
requiring such order of pre-requisite and dependency but can allow phpadmin to 
be installed without mysql being there. [please don't let that answer be "you 
should have read the manual first"]

As things are evolving with servers and keyringers one needs a separate 
encrypted debian system to be running somewhere with all the keys and 
passwords, unless one choses the logical path of using one for everything, in 
which case sometimes it gets really confusing for what this passphrase was for.

Did your dpkg just get updated? Or is it just me?

Re: Debian Developers Have Been Listening!

[Joel Rees]

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 6:19 AM, Patrick Bartek  wrote:
> On Mon, 22 May 2017 08:30:15 +0900 Joel Rees 
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 1:48 AM, Patrick Bartek 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > A while ago, I initiated the "If Linux Is About Choice ..." thread
>> > about why there is no choice of inits during an initial install.
>> >
>> > Since that time, I've tested several systemd-less distros[1] as
>> > well as Stretch as replacements for my aging Wheezy system.  With
>> > Stretch my plan was to see if I could replace systemd as the init
>> > without removing it just leaving its components (some or all as
>> > necessary) to meet dependencies without it breaking the system
>>
>> ???
>
> Could you be a little more specific?  Or should I?

Thank you for being more specific.

>> > That way there would be no
>> > need for third party repos or jumping through hoops to keep a
>> > systemd-less working. I figured it would be a somewhat difficult,
>> > time consuming process. However, I made a discovery during these
>> > tests: The Debian developers had already done it for me.  They made
>> > switching from systemd as the init to sysvinit or runit easy just
>> > by issuing a couple commands. Here's what you do.
>>
>> I thought that information came out several times in the thread you
>> mention having started -- that it was possible to install the base
>> system, then disable and remove the main systemd component, just
>> leaving some of the pieces that have been picked up as dependencies
>> by other packages.
>
> That scenerio was mentioned and was known by me, but usually used to
> prevent systemd from being installed all.  But since Debian is now
> systemd dependent and doing that will cause problems.  You either have
> to use third party repos or compile stuff yourself, have local repos,
> etc just to get things to work.  I ended up with a simplier solution:
> Just treat systemd like any other dependency, then no special repos,
> compiling, etc.  And it worked!  And the Stretch developers made it
> easy to do which wasn't available with Jessie. Thank you developers.
>
> My original thread was on why there is no choice of init at install
> time. You have choices on almost everything else. Anyway, most of the
> answers were ambiguous, a few acrimonious.  No matter.
>
>> Maybe the discussion of using more advanced techniques to keep from
>> ever installing systemd in the first place hid the information about
>> the removal approach.
>
> Too many hoops to jump through to eliminate systemd if major
> components (GNOME, udev, udisks2, policykit-1, etc) have it (or parts of
> it) as dependencies.  Just look at all Devuan had to go through to do
> it.
>
>> If so, it would seem to be worthwhile to have this separate thread,
>> as well.
>
> I don't think it would do any good.  Debian has chosen systemd, for
> better or worse, and I don't see that changing.  Users and
> administrators will either adapt or adopt another distro.
>
> I just hope my little "fix" is useful to someone else.  FWIW, I found
> without systemd as the init and supervisor, I have about 7.5 MB more
> free RAM.
>
> B
>

When I have enough money to replace this half-broken laptop I'm using,
I'll probably post more questions on the above.

Thanks.


--
Joel Rees

One of these days I'll get someone to pay me
to design a language that combines the best of Forth and C.
Then I'll be able to leap wide instruction sets with a single #ifdef,
run faster than a speeding infinite loop with a #define,
and stop all integer size bugs with a bare cast.

More of my delusions:
http://reiisi.blogspot.com/2017/05/do-not-pay-modern-danegeld-ransomware.html
http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/p/novels-i-am-writing.html

Re: bookmyname et dkim

[Frédéric MASSOT]

Le 24/05/2017 à 05:39, bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a écrit :
> bonjour,
> 
> j'ai essayé de faire entrer la syntaxe de dkim
>  dans une entrée txt ...
> 
> malheureusement ce n'est pas pris en compte lorsque 
> je fait un essai :
> 
> 
> host -t TXT happy-tux.org 

Il manque le sélecteur dans ta requête.



-- 
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Re: puppy Linux reports problems with USB/network drive

[albcares]

hi everybody

since I'm periodically burning some installation-CD of various puppylinux,
I want to ask a small question: have you ever thought of back-up-ing the
usb and just format it again?

... or am I misunderstanding?

2017-05-23 21:33 GMT+02:00 Fungi4All :

>  Original Message 
>
> Subject: Re: puppy Linux reports problems with USB/network drive
> UTC Time: May 21, 2017 11:33 AM
> From: pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org
>
> Le 21/05/2017 à 04:56, Albert Hodge a écrit :
> >
> > When I plugged it into the USB port it gave a warning message, that the
> > NTFS -3g driver was able to mount the NTFS partition but says, Dirty
> > volume mount was forced by the "force" mount option. It is mounted
> > read/write, but advice is only write to it in emergency situation.
> > recommendation is boot windows and fix the filesystem first!
> >
> > It's going to be a while before I can get a system built to run winxp,
> > is there a Linux option I can run on this old computer to fix the drive?
>
> You can try ntfsck or ntfsfix from ntfs-3g (formerly ntfsprogs).
> Use with caution.
>
>
> testdisk may be able to at least tell you what if anything may be wrong
> with it.
>
> Also I am told that team-os https://www.teamos-hkrg.com/index.php iso of
> win installations are pretty reliable and download quick.  Just plug in and
> install, no keys nothing ... Make sure you get their latest security fixed
> edition.
>
>
>


-- 
linux user #521635

Re: Debian Developers Have Been Listening!

[tomas]

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On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 08:13:43AM +0100, Michael Fothergill wrote:

[...]

> I am moved to tears by this.  It is a tribute to human ingenuity, to
> conflict resolution [...]

Please.

Either contribute something constructive or just shut up.
This kind of infantile behaviour just poisons the list for the
rest of us. On whichever side of The Big Rift we may live.

And *if* you feel the urge to vent off at other people's expense,
then at least have the courtesy of quoting properly, instead of
dumping all the original post in your reply.

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Re: Victor lino

[Dixan Rivas]

No prestes mucha atención al tema que hay personas son muy sensibles y
fácilmente ofendidas y si esa persona es de origen Argentino o mas
conocido como Europeos de Latinoamérica pues la probabilidad que se
ofenda es aun mayor. Lo que quisiste decir yo lo entendí perfectamente,
que busque el lo que significa eso en tu país y deje de llorar que esto
es una lista de debian si esta aquí no debería ser tan fácilmente
ofendido, para esas personas están las listas de OSX.


Saludos


El 24/05/17 a las 03:54, Juan Lavieri escribió:
>
> Hola.
>
>
> El 23-05-2017 a las 03:52 p.m., Guido Ignacio escribió:
>> El 23 de mayo de 2017, 16:05, Juan Lavieri > > escribió:
>>
>>
>>
>> El 23-05-2017 a las 02:13 p.m., Guido Ignacio escribió:
>>> 2017-05-23 14:34 GMT-03:00 Víctor Lino >> >:
>>>
>>> Quiciera dar ideas
>>>
>>> yo también, adquirí un diccionario urgente!
>>
>> Como decimos acá en Venezuela, Guido ¡Te la comiste!
>>
>> Mira que me hiciste reir un buen rato.
>>
>> Saludos
>>
>> -- 
>> Juan M Lavieri
>>
>> Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.
>>
>>
>> No se que será allá "te la comiste" pero acá en Argentina no es grato
>> que te lo digan
>
> En primer quisiera presentar mis excusas a Guido y a todo aque que se
> haya sentido afectado de alguna manera.
>
> Agradezco que se me haya permitido entender que existen expresiones
> que usamos localmente, que bien pudieran hasta ofender a personas
> nativas en otros lugares distintos a los nuestros.
>
> No quisiera responder directamente acerca del significado de la
> expresión que causó esta controversia, por lo que me tomo la libertad
> de agregar algunos enlaces que tal vez lo aclaren;  aqui están algunos:
>
> http://www.tubabel.com/definicion/35141-te-la-comiste
> http://www.blindworlds.com/publicacion/70069  (favor buscarla en la
> letra "T")
> http://untiposerio.com/el-lenguaje-del-vendedor-venezolano/(aqui
> es la número 8)
> https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/te-la-comiste.1089821/?hl=es 
> (la penúltima entrada)
>
> Saludos.
>
> -- 
> Juan M Lavieri
>
> Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.



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Re: Debian Developers Have Been Listening!

[Michael Fothergill]

On 23 May 2017 at 22:19, Patrick Bartek  wrote:

> On Mon, 22 May 2017 08:30:15 +0900 Joel Rees 
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 1:48 AM, Patrick Bartek 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > A while ago, I initiated the "If Linux Is About Choice ..." thread
> > > about why there is no choice of inits during an initial install.
> > >
> > > Since that time, I've tested several systemd-less distros[1] as
> > > well as Stretch as replacements for my aging Wheezy system.  With
> > > Stretch my plan was to see if I could replace systemd as the init
> > > without removing it just leaving its components (some or all as
> > > necessary) to meet dependencies without it breaking the system
> >
> > ???
>
> Could you be a little more specific?  Or should I?
>
> > > That way there would be no
> > > need for third party repos or jumping through hoops to keep a
> > > systemd-less working. I figured it would be a somewhat difficult,
> > > time consuming process. However, I made a discovery during these
> > > tests: The Debian developers had already done it for me.  They made
> > > switching from systemd as the init to sysvinit or runit easy just
> > > by issuing a couple commands. Here's what you do.
> >
> > I thought that information came out several times in the thread you
> > mention having started -- that it was possible to install the base
> > system, then disable and remove the main systemd component, just
> > leaving some of the pieces that have been picked up as dependencies
> > by other packages.
>
> That scenerio was mentioned and was known by me, but usually used to
> prevent systemd from being installed all.  But since Debian is now
> systemd dependent and doing that will cause problems.  You either have
> to use third party repos or compile stuff yourself, have local repos,
> etc just to get things to work.  I ended up with a simplier solution:
> Just treat systemd like any other dependency, then no special repos,
> compiling, etc.  And it worked!  And the Stretch developers made it
> easy to do which wasn't available with Jessie. Thank you developers.
>

​I am moved to tears by this.  It is a tribute to human ingenuity, to
conflict resolution, to WHO mental health goals
and at the same time it represents a subtle troll bamboozling and
befuddling spam filter for the list here.

My God Bless you all!

MF​



>
> My original thread was on why there is no choice of init at install
> time. You have choices on almost everything else. Anyway, most of the
> answers were ambiguous, a few acrimonious.  No matter.
>
> > Maybe the discussion of using more advanced techniques to keep from
> > ever installing systemd in the first place hid the information about
> > the removal approach.
>
> Too many hoops to jump through to eliminate systemd if major
> components (GNOME, udev, udisks2, policykit-1, etc) have it (or parts of
> it) as dependencies.  Just look at all Devuan had to go through to do
> it.
>
> > If so, it would seem to be worthwhile to have this separate thread,
> > as well.
>
> I don't think it would do any good.  Debian has chosen systemd, for
> better or worse, and I don't see that changing.  Users and
> administrators will either adapt or adopt another distro.
>
> I just hope my little "fix" is useful to someone else.  FWIW, I found
> without systemd as the init and supervisor, I have about 7.5 MB more
> free RAM.
>
> B
>
>

[solved] Re: Samsung ML-1915 printer

[Rodolfo Medina]

Brian  writes:

> On Sat 20 May 2017 at 08:27:25 +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
>> 
>> I did everything you said, but no print!  I don't know what to do...


Now it seems to be all right!  The right driver was rastertosamsungspl, but my
mistake was to do:

 # cp -vi i386/at_root/usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertosamsungspl 
/usr/lib/cups/filter

, whereas I had to, after unpacking UnifiedLinuxDriver_1.02.tar.gz:

 # cp -vi x86_64/at_root/usr/lib64/cups/filter/rastertosamsungspl 
/usr/lib/cups/filter

, because my new Lenovo desktop machine is 64-bit...

Thanks to Brian and to all who kindly helped...

Rodolfo