Re: Recommendation for National Public Radio player

2011-10-29 Thread hugo vanwoerkom

On 10/27/2011 04:07 PM, Celejar wrote:

On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:53:43 -0500
Harry Putnamrea...@newsguy.com  wrote:

...


Celejarcele...@gmail.com  writes:


[...]


Iceweasel with Adobe Flash plugin works fine here.

Celejar



Thank you all.  So there is some link you guys just hit with iceweasel
and you start hearing npr public broadcast?


Can you explain what doesn't work for you? Here, I can go to npr.org,
click the 'listen' tab, click on the (e.g.) 'Morning Edition' link, a
new window opens, click on the Flash icon (I'm using NoScript /
Flashblock), then click the 'play' icon on the player that appears, and
it starts.



After clicking on Morning Edition in Squeeze and Iceweasel with Gnash 
as flashplayer I get a blank window.

In Squeeze with google-chrome-stable I also get a blank window.
In Squeeze with google-chrome-beta I get a window that is filled in with 
data but it is darkened out i.e. it is rendered dark and nothing can 
be selected.


Any suggestions?

Hugo





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Re: Recommendation for National Public Radio player

2011-10-29 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Bob Proulx wrote:

hugo vanwoerkom wrote:

After clicking on Morning Edition in Squeeze and Iceweasel with
Gnash as flashplayer I get a blank window.
In Squeeze with google-chrome-stable I also get a blank window.
In Squeeze with google-chrome-beta I get a window that is filled in
with data but it is darkened out i.e. it is rendered dark and
nothing can be selected.


As noted previously in this thread the GNU Flash player 'gnash' does
not (yet) work with the Flash used on the www.npr.org site.  That is
the nature of the problem with Flash.  FLOSS versions will always be
chasing the closed versions.


Any suggestions?


1. Participate in the advocacy for free protocols.  We should not be
   caught in traps like this.

2. Work with the GNU Flash team to improve gnash until it does work in
   all cases.

3. Obviously if you are using a platform for which there is the closed
   source proprietary version such as a 32-bit x86 platform then you
   could install the Adobe Flash player for it.  I can't recommend
   doing this but it does work with that combination.



Thanks Bob. Suddenly success with Iceweasel 7.0.1 and Adobe Flash 
10.3d162 in Sid arch. amd64.
Upon selecting Listen and 24hr news I get the window that first 
shows Loading... then text + buttons and Buffering then sound starts 
without needing to take action. Wow.


Hugo


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Re: Recommendation for National Public Radio player

2011-10-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

John Hasler wrote:

Walter Hurry writes:

National? What nation? Don't bother to answer; I can guess, since you
did not mention one.


How many nations have an institution named National Public Radio? (note
the caps: it's a name, not a description.)


Well said...

Hugo


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Re: gnome3 startup segfault

2011-10-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:18:29 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:42:57 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Frank wrote:


(...)


  Common problem. I and others have had it. I have just about given
  up
on Gnome3...can't wait for it to be sorted out. But I am sure if you
hang in for a while it will be fine.




The segfault disappeared, but the oops screen to log out has not. So
for a while gnome in Sid is unusable.

How about the fallback mode? Does it work for you? :-?



Yes, that works, but the sole reason I went to gnome a week ago is
compiz, and that does not work with fallback.


I would give it some time... gnome-shell just has landed in Sid a couple 
of days ago. Anyway, I'd say is too early to get Compiz playing fine 
within gnome-shell:


https://live.gnome.org/GNOME3Myths#I_can.27t_use_Compiz_with_GNOME_Shell.21


I got the oops screen with user1 but not with user2, so it depends on 
your user settings, apparently...


Hugo















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Re: gnome3 startup segfault

2011-10-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Frank wrote:

On 19/10/11 03:17 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

After playing with gnome3 for about an hour, I got it to where it dies
immediately upon startup with a windoz-like screen that says in effect
something is wrong - log out.

And kern.log has this:
Oct 19 12:45:55 HDBB kernel: [ 9535.415881] gnome-settings-[18884]:
segfault at 7f02290df4f0 ip 7f02290df4f0 sp 7ff$
Oct 19 12:46:21 HDBB kernel: [ 9561.971839] gnome-settings-[22307]:
segfault at 7f523b7484f0 ip 7f523b7484f0 sp 7ff$


//snip//




As you can see I tried it a few times :-)
Is that gnome-settings-daemon that is dying? I did not see this
partucular bug. Running Sid.
I tried rebooting but the segfault is solid - only gnome-fallback
works, if you can call it working...



  Common problem. I and others have had it. I have just about given up 
on Gnome3...can't wait for it to be sorted out. But I am sure if you 
hang in for a while it will be fine.




The segfault disappeared, but the oops screen to log out has not. So for 
a while gnome in Sid is unusable.


Hugo


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Re: gnome3 startup segfault

2011-10-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:42:57 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Frank wrote:

On 19/10/11 03:17 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

After playing with gnome3 for about an hour, I got it to where it dies
immediately upon startup with a windoz-like screen that says in effect
something is wrong - log out.


Please don't confuse gnome3 with gnome-shell ;-)


And kern.log has this:
Oct 19 12:45:55 HDBB kernel: [ 9535.415881] gnome-settings-[18884]:
segfault at 7f02290df4f0 ip 7f02290df4f0 sp 7ff$ Oct 19
12:46:21 HDBB kernel: [ 9561.971839] gnome-settings-[22307]: segfault
at 7f523b7484f0 ip 7f523b7484f0 sp 7ff$


(...)


  Common problem. I and others have had it. I have just about given up
on Gnome3...can't wait for it to be sorted out. But I am sure if you
hang in for a while it will be fine.




The segfault disappeared, but the oops screen to log out has not. So for
a while gnome in Sid is unusable.


How about the fallback mode? Does it work for you? :-?



Yes, that works, but the sole reason I went to gnome a week ago is 
compiz, and that does not work with fallback.


Hugo



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gnome3 startup segfault

2011-10-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

After playing with gnome3 for about an hour, I got it to where it dies
immediately upon startup with a windoz-like screen that says in effect
something is wrong - log out.

And kern.log has this:
Oct 19 12:45:55 HDBB kernel: [ 9535.415881] gnome-settings-[18884]:
segfault at 7f02290df4f0 ip 7f02290df4f0 sp 7ff$
Oct 19 12:46:21 HDBB kernel: [ 9561.971839] gnome-settings-[22307]:
segfault at 7f523b7484f0 ip 7f523b7484f0 sp 7ff$
Oct 19 12:46:31 HDBB kernel: [ 9571.846979] gnome-settings-[22489]:
segfault at 7fa2fb5204f0 ip 7fa2fb5204f0 sp 7ff$
Oct 19 12:48:08 HDBB kernel: [ 9668.456689] gnome-settings-[22696]:
segfault at 7fcb1e25b4f0 ip 7fcb1e25b4f0 sp 7ff$
Oct 19 13:04:21 HDBB kernel: [10641.811760] gnome-settings-[23033]:
segfault at 7fb4a68d74f0 ip 7fb4a68d74f0 sp 7ff$
Oct 19 13:04:39 HDBB kernel: [10660.191901] gnome-settings-[25529]:
segfault at 7f9e9c6674f0 ip 7f9e9c6674f0 sp 7ff$
Oct 19 13:07:40 HDBB kernel: [10840.670775] gnome-settings-[25705]:
segfault at 7f778ee124f0 ip 7f778ee124f0 sp 7ff$
Oct 19 13:08:51 HDBB kernel: [10911.512132] gnome-settings-[26296]:
segfault at 7f9cc15794f0 ip 7f9cc15794f0 sp 7ff$
Oct 19 13:12:50 HDBB kernel: [11150.718472] gnome-settings-[26571]:
segfault at 7f459e8af4f0 ip 7f459e8af4f0 sp 7ff$
Oct 19 13:13:43 HDBB kernel: [11204.072198] gnome-settings-[27283]:
segfault at 7f10c97004f0 ip 7f10c97004f0 sp 7ff$
Oct 19 13:13:44 HDBB kernel: [11204.907249] fuse exit

As you can see I tried it a few times :-)
Is that gnome-settings-daemon that is dying? I did not see this
partucular bug. Running Sid.
I tried rebooting but the segfault is solid - only gnome-fallback
works, if you can call it working...


Hugo


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Re: upgrading to gnome3

2011-10-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

David Roguin wrote:



On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:20 PM, David Roguin nesda...@gmail.com 
mailto:nesda...@gmail.com wrote:


snip
David, I followed that and this is what I get:

root@HDBB:/etc/apt/__preferences.d# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
 brasero deskbar-applet gnome-about gnome-applets
gnome-commander gnome-control-center gnome-netstatus-applet
gnome-panel
 gnome-power-manager gnome-session gvfs gvfs-backends gvfs-fuse
libbonoboui2-0 libgnome2-0 libgnomeui-0
 libpanel-applet2-0 nautilus python-gnome2 python-gnomeapplet
sensors-applet
The following packages have been kept back:
 compiz-gnome compizconfig-backend-gconf
python-software-properties software-properties-gtk
The following packages will be upgraded:
 alsa-utils apt apt-utils aptitude at-spi comerr-dev
desktop-base dictionaries-common diff diffutils dpkg dpkg-dev
 e2fslibs e2fsprogs git git-man iftop initscripts libatspi1.0-0
libcairo-perl libcomerr2 libdpkg-perl libffi5
 libgd2-noxpm libgdu0 libglib-perl libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-data
libhtml-parser-perl libio-socket-ssl-perl libmp3lame0
 libqdbm14 libss2 libusb-1.0-0 libvirtodbc0 libwnck-3-0
libwnck-3-common libwnck-common libwnck22 libxml-xpathengine-perl
 syslinux syslinux-common sysstat sysv-rc sysvinit
sysvinit-utils virtuoso-minimal virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin
 virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common xserver-common xserver-xephyr
xserver-xorg-core
52 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 21 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
Need to get 45.3 MB of archives.
After this operation, 45.1 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

Where gnome-session just gets deleted and not updated. 


Hugo

 
I've updated several months ago and I don't real remember what I did

to get it working... Maybe someone could shed some light on this.
Just curious: what happens if you try to install gnome-session
before dist-upgrading?
$sudo aptitude install -t experimental gnome-session

Cheers!
-- 
David



I'm looking gnome-session from sid and experimental and the unstable 
version is newer than the experimental one, so maybe that's the reason 
apt wants to remove it.


and maybe you want to install gnome-session from sid and not from 
experimental, as I mentioned early :)




When I do 'apt-get -t experimental install gnome-session' I get that it 
is already at the latest version, which is gnome 2. I think I'll wait a 
little bit.


Hugo












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Re: trying to get the compiz cube

2011-10-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:56:39 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:38:17 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:31:38 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


I installed compiz and am trying to see the famed cube: it's
nowhere. So I googled and found:
http://www.ghacks.net/2009/05/25/enabling-the-cube-in-compiz/ which
says:

(...)

There is a good article on Compiz in Debian's wiki:

http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz

I would try to follow those steps :-)



I did. Result: no cube.

Also the Troubleshooting section?

I take your word then.

Let's go scuba diving:

dpkg -l | grep -i compiz

hugo@HDBB:~$ dpkg -l |grep -i compiz


(...)

If we attend to the information of the wiki page, there is only one 
package that is missing (compiz-fusion-plugins-main), while you have 
compiz-plugins. The rest are all installed.


Xorg log looks right (the most important part here is ensuring aiglx 
extension is enabled which it is).


So, what's left? :-? Let's go to CCSM, the Compiz control center.

Can you see there under Desktop section the cube plugins (rotate, 
desktop...) as checked?


Yes, checked.



If yes, recheck (under CCSM Effects section) that windows borders, 
resizing and moving windows are all enabled.


All enabled.


I am under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that I am supposed to see a 
cube on the desktop, which I don't. I see the effects to the windows, 
but no cube.


Hugo



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Re: trying to get the compiz cube

2011-10-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:53:19 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Camaleón wrote:


(...)


So, what's left? :-? Let's go to CCSM, the Compiz control center.

Can you see there under Desktop section the cube plugins (rotate,
desktop...) as checked?

Yes, checked.



If yes, recheck (under CCSM Effects section) that windows borders,
resizing and moving windows are all enabled.

All enabled.


This is getting really weird :-)
 

I am under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that I am supposed to see a
cube on the desktop, which I don't. I see the effects to the windows,
but no cube.


Well, you should see the cube if:

- Compiz is installed, running and set as default window manager (done)
- Cube effects are present and enabled (done)
- You change your workspace by using the mentioned keybinding (Ctrl + Alt 
+ Left/Right Arrow) to see the cube rotating (done, I suppose...)


Ha! I didn't recently try those keystrokes and I see the cube rotating. 
How do you zoom out the cube? I just did it: ctrl+alt+down arrow zooms 
out but shows the screens in a row.




Are you getting other effects that involve moving the window (e.g., zoom 
in/out, slow motion...)?




Zoom in, what's the superkey? And slow motion shift-F10 just pops up a menu.

Hugo



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Re: trying to get the compiz cube

2011-10-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:56:56 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:53:19 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


(...)

- You change your
workspace by using the mentioned keybinding (Ctrl + Alt + Left/Right
Arrow) to see the cube rotating (done, I suppose...)

Ha! I didn't recently try those keystrokes and I see the cube rotating.


What the...! I know we were missing something important :-)


How do you zoom out the cube? I just did it: ctrl+alt+down arrow zooms
out but shows the screens in a row.


A small set of keycombos are listed at the bottom of the wiki page 
(Default hot keys):


http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz

There are many more here:

http://wiki.compiz.org/CommonKeyboardShortcuts


Are you getting other effects that involve moving the window (e.g.,
zoom in/out, slow motion...)?



Zoom in, what's the superkey? And slow motion shift-F10 just pops up a
menu.


True is that I know nothing about how Compiz goes, I mean, I've never 
used it before, maybe one time when I got it enabled by default but it 
lasted a few seconds until I turned off (a wobbly window is too much 
for my eyes O:-) )




I see the cube! alt+ctrl+drag left button! But it has only 4 faces. Once 
I saw 12 faces but I don't remember what I was clicking!


Hugo





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Re: dist-upgrade wants to remove gdm

2011-10-17 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Jochen Spieker wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom:

I run Sid. I installed gdm instead of gdm3. But now dist-upgrade
wants to remove gdm and gdm-themes.

…

How do I find out why?


aptitude why-not gdm
aptitude why gdm3

Probably Gnome3 is trickling in and some package you have installed
depends on gdm3 (which conflicts with gdm).



Jochen, thanks, that's exactly what appears to be happening.

Hugo


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upgrading to gnome3

2011-10-17 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

I found a site that describes upgrading to gnome3:
http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/06/16/installing-gnome-3-on-debian-6-0-squeeze-no-sorry/

It involves pinning to experimental.

I did just that, but dist-upgrade did not upgrade gnome-session.

Is the method described correct?

Hugo


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Re: trying to get the compiz cube

2011-10-17 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:38:17 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:31:38 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


I installed compiz and am trying to see the famed cube: it's nowhere.
So I googled and found:
http://www.ghacks.net/2009/05/25/enabling-the-cube-in-compiz/ which
says:

(...)

There is a good article on Compiz in Debian's wiki:

http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz

I would try to follow those steps :-)



I did. Result: no cube.


Also the Troubleshooting section?

I take your word then. 


Let's go scuba diving:

dpkg -l | grep -i compiz


hugo@HDBB:~$ dpkg -l |grep -i compiz
ii  compiz 0.8.4-4 
 OpenGL window and compositing manager
ii  compiz-core0.8.4-4 
 OpenGL window and compositing manager
ii  compiz-gnome   0.8.4-4 
 OpenGL window and compositing manager - GNOME window decorator
ii  compiz-gtk 0.8.4-4 
 OpenGL window and compositing manager - Gtk window decorator
ii  compiz-plugins 0.8.4-4 
 OpenGL window and compositing manager - plugins
ii  compizconfig-backend-gconf 0.8.4-1 
 Compiz Fusion configuration system - gconf backend
ii  compizconfig-settings-manager  0.8.4-2 
 Compizconfig Settings Manager
ii  fusion-icon0.1.0-2 
 tray icon to launch and manage Compiz Fusion
ii  libcompizconfig0   0.8.4-2 
 Configuration settings library for compiz-fusion
ii  libdecoration0 0.8.4-4 
 Compiz window decoration library
ii  python-compizconfig0.8.4-2+b1 
 Compizconfig bindings for python




grep -i -e dri -e glx /var/log/Xorg.0.log



hugo@HDBB:~$ grep -i -e dri -e glx /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17.402] (**) Option AIGLX on
[17.594]X.Org Video Driver: 11.0
[17.594]X.Org XInput driver : 13.0
[17.639] (II) LoadModule: glx
[17.639] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[18.588] (II) Module glx: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation
[18.600] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  285.05.09  Fri Sep 23 17:51:24 PDT 2011
[18.600] (II) Loading extension GLX
[18.607] (II) LoadModule: dri
[18.607] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
[18.630] (II) Module dri: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[18.630] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
[18.630] (II) LoadModule: dri2
[18.630] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so
[18.630] (II) Module dri2: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[18.630] (II) Loading extension DRI2
[18.630] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[18.713]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[18.732] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  285.05.09  Fri Sep 23 
17:33:35 PDT 2011

[18.732] (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs
[18.850] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[18.862] (**) NVIDIA(0): Option AllowGLXWithComposite On 

[19.715] (II) Loading extension NV-GLX 

[19.935] (II) Loading sub module dri2 

[19.935] (II) LoadModule: dri2 

[19.935] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so 

[19.935] (II) Module dri2: vendor=X.Org Foundation 


[19.935] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2] Setup complete
[19.937] (II) Initializing extension GLX
[20.708]Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[20.708]ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 13.0
[20.708] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
[20.741] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
[20.742] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'A4Tech USB Optical Mouse'
[20.742] (II) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring)
[20.742] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Silitek Standard USB 
Keyboard '

[20.743] (II) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring)

...

Hugo




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Re: upgrading to gnome3

2011-10-17 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

David Roguin wrote:
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com 
mailto:hvw59...@care2.com wrote:


Hi,

I found a site that describes upgrading to gnome3:

http://raphaelhertzog.com/__2011/06/16/installing-gnome-3-__on-debian-6-0-squeeze-no-__sorry/

http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/06/16/installing-gnome-3-on-debian-6-0-squeeze-no-sorry/

It involves pinning to experimental.

I did just that, but dist-upgrade did not upgrade gnome-session.

Is the method described correct?

Hugo


Hi,

I've used this method: 
http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/04/18/status-update-of-gnome-3-in-debian-experimental/ 
which is basically the same but using sid instead of testing, and it 
worked for me.




snip
David, I followed that and this is what I get:

root@HDBB:/etc/apt/preferences.d# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  brasero deskbar-applet gnome-about gnome-applets gnome-commander 
gnome-control-center gnome-netstatus-applet gnome-panel
  gnome-power-manager gnome-session gvfs gvfs-backends gvfs-fuse 
libbonoboui2-0 libgnome2-0 libgnomeui-0
  libpanel-applet2-0 nautilus python-gnome2 python-gnomeapplet 
sensors-applet

The following packages have been kept back:
  compiz-gnome compizconfig-backend-gconf python-software-properties 
software-properties-gtk

The following packages will be upgraded:
  alsa-utils apt apt-utils aptitude at-spi comerr-dev desktop-base 
dictionaries-common diff diffutils dpkg dpkg-dev
  e2fslibs e2fsprogs git git-man iftop initscripts libatspi1.0-0 
libcairo-perl libcomerr2 libdpkg-perl libffi5
  libgd2-noxpm libgdu0 libglib-perl libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-data 
libhtml-parser-perl libio-socket-ssl-perl libmp3lame0
  libqdbm14 libss2 libusb-1.0-0 libvirtodbc0 libwnck-3-0 
libwnck-3-common libwnck-common libwnck22 libxml-xpathengine-perl
  syslinux syslinux-common sysstat sysv-rc sysvinit sysvinit-utils 
virtuoso-minimal virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin
  virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common xserver-common xserver-xephyr 
xserver-xorg-core

52 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 21 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
Need to get 45.3 MB of archives.
After this operation, 45.1 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

Where gnome-session just gets deleted and not updated.

Hugo


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Re: trying to get the compiz cube

2011-10-16 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:31:38 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


I installed compiz and am trying to see the famed cube: it's nowhere. So
I googled and found:
http://www.ghacks.net/2009/05/25/enabling-the-cube-in-compiz/ which
says:


(...)

There is a good article on Compiz in Debian's wiki:

http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz

I would try to follow those steps :-)



I did. Result: no cube.

Hugo


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Re: trying to get the compiz cube

2011-10-16 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Frank Steinborn wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I installed compiz and am trying to see the famed cube: it's nowhere.
So I googled and found:
http://www.ghacks.net/2009/05/25/enabling-the-cube-in-compiz/
which says:

The first thing you have to do is enable the Custom effects in the
Appearances window. To open this go to the GNOME System menu and
click on Preferences. From within this submenu click on the
Appearances entry which will open a new window. In this new window
you will see 5 tabs, of which one is Visual Effects

But I don't see 5 tabs, only 3: themse', 'background' and 'fonts'.


This seems to be an Ubuntu-only-thing. Normally you are supposed to
use 'ccsm' (compizconfig-settings-manager) to configure Compiz.



I did use ccsm: still no cube

Hugo


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dist-upgrade wants to remove gdm

2011-10-16 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

I run Sid. I installed gdm instead of gdm3. But now dist-upgrade wants 
to remove gdm and gdm-themes.


hugo@HDBB:~$ apt-cache policy gdm
gdm:
  Installed: 2.20.7-4lenny1
  Candidate: 2.20.7-4lenny1
  Package pin: 2.20.7-4lenny1
  Version table:
 *** 2.20.7-4lenny1 1001
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ lenny/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

How do I find out why?

Hugo


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Re: #Bug 641344 - should it be reopened?

2011-10-16 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
Dear maintainers, 


I still have significant slow reactions of X when I am using xserver-xorg-
core-1.11-1-amd64 with nvidia-glx. This is pointing me to #Bug641344, which is 
already closed. Sadly I cannot see any improvement on my machine, although, I 
have to admit, it is now no more crashing. 

But rendering is still really slow, otherwise glxgears is giving me normal 
framerates (the usual fram,erates, I always got before).


For me it is looking, as if there is a delay, when rendering has to be done, 
and then the rendering is working normal. So, closing windows, or using moving 
parts, is braking the system.




I am running Sid and xserver-xorg-core 2:1.11.1-1 and use the nvidia 
driver: NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  285.05.09  Fri Sep 23 17:33:35 PDT 2011.

I have an nvidia GEForce 8400 GS graphics card.

I see none of these symptoms, I wonder why not...

Hugo


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Re: #Bug 641344 - should it be reopened?

2011-10-16 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2011-10-16 19:11 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
Dear maintainers, 


I still have significant slow reactions of X when I am using xserver-xorg-
core-1.11-1-amd64 with nvidia-glx. This is pointing me to
#Bug641344, which is already closed. Sadly I cannot see any
improvement on my machine, although, I have to admit, it is now no
more crashing. 


But rendering is still really slow, otherwise glxgears is giving me
normal framerates (the usual fram,erates, I always got before).

For me it is looking, as if there is a delay, when rendering has to
be done, and then the rendering is working normal. So, closing
windows, or using moving parts, is braking the system.


I am running Sid and xserver-xorg-core 2:1.11.1-1 and use the nvidia
driver: NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  285.05.09  Fri Sep 23 17:33:35 PDT
2011.
I have an nvidia GEForce 8400 GS graphics card.

I see none of these symptoms, I wonder why not...


Only some cards are affected, according to Nvidia developer Aaron
Plattner.  See
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?s=644c7e230e9673486773fc494c236e01p=2487743postcount=11.



Good clue, Sven. But 'nvidia-settings -q AccelerateTrapezoids' prints 
nothing and so my GPU does not support trapezoid rendering and so should 
be affected, but I see no delay in window switching...


Hugo


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trying to get the compiz cube

2011-10-15 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

I installed compiz and am trying to see the famed cube: it's nowhere.
So I googled and found:
http://www.ghacks.net/2009/05/25/enabling-the-cube-in-compiz/
which says:

The first thing you have to do is enable the Custom effects in the 
Appearances window. To open this go to the GNOME System menu and click 
on Preferences. From within this submenu click on the Appearances entry 
which will open a new window. In this new window you will see 5 tabs, of 
which one is Visual Effects


But I don't see 5 tabs, only 3: themse', 'background' and 'fonts'.

What's next?

Running Sid and gnome-session as session-manager.
BTW googling nowadays is wading through tons of stuff that is outdated :-(

Hugo


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Re: Trouble with java and music store www.channelclassic.com

2011-10-12 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Nick Lidakis wrote:

I'm running up to date Debian Sid with Sun's Java 6.26-3 installed. The list
was able to figure out my previous problem concerning Java and another
online music store: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/02/msg00072.html
So I made sure that wasn't the issue as I was able to buy music from
HDTracks.com just recently.

My issue is in trying to download music or a test track from the Channel Classic
Records website. I have downloaded their free sample track of the week before 
without issue. Link here: http://www.channelclassics.com/try-it-now

Today, the Java app loads but all the buttons are greyed out and no downloads
start.

For the reward of a hi-res quality classical music track, can someone be as
so kind to try to download a their free track of the week? 


Output of cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/bindv6only is 0. Anything else I should be
looking out for?



So you have to download the download loader. OK. How do you get files to 
show up in the download list?


They must be popular with this complexity.

Hugo


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switch window/session manager with gdm3

2011-10-12 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

How do you switch window/session managers with gdm3?
You get lots of hits with googling 'switching window manager' but it is 
all outdated.


Hugo


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Re: nvidia-driver - some problems

2011-10-08 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
Hello all, 

I am using debian/testing on my desktop pc. This computer is using a Nvidia 
card 7300 GT ultra. As this is an older card, I got into a little problems. My 
problems:


1. I want to use 3d-accceleration, so I need to use the proprietrary driver 
from Nvidia.


2. This card is not supported by the newest driver, but with nvidia-kernel-
legacy-173xx and nvidia-glx-173xx.

3. I am using kernel 3.0, but the above modules cannot be built, as it says 
wrong kernel version, only 2.6 is supported.


4. The alternativenv cannot be used, due to xserver-xorg and xserver-xorg-
core version incompabilities.

5. At the moment I have to use nouveau driver, but acceleration is not 
really fast.


This is the situation. So, maybe you have an idea. Possibilities:

1. Maybe change nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx so it can be build with the 
latest kernel. If the build is NOT WANTED by the developers, please point me 
to. Otherwise it is a bug and should be fixed.


2. In case the developers decided to use the nouveau driver instead of nv 
or the legacy driver ONLY for OLDER Nvidia cards, please tell me. Otherwise it 
is a bug, and should be fixed.


3. If the developers decided, NOT to use kernel 3.X.X for older computers, 
please tell me. 

Information: At the moment I MUST use the nouveau driver, when I want to use 
kernel 3.0, with kernel 2.6.39, the nvidia drivers are building fine. 


Thank you very much for reading this and for your help!



Yes, that's what happened with that 3.0.0 nomenclature. You may not want 
to hear this but the fastest solution is a new card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814139150
as little as US$34.-

Hugo












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Re: `Xorg -configure' failure

2011-10-07 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 07/10/11 02:44, Harry Putnam wrote:

[NOTE:  This post or very similar was also posted to
gmane.comp.freedesktop.xorg.]


It's considered bad manners to cross post - why waste more peoples time?



Only a waste of time *if* you read both lists...

Hugo


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Re: Please kill the noise

2011-10-06 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Stan Hoeppner wrote:

All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it more
difficult to assist those who actually need help with Debian.

Debian is an OS for _mature_ Linux users.  Please act like one and stop
this juvenile OT nonsense.



I personally look for who the sender is and I found some interesting 
responses in the latest OT.


Hugo


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Re: Debian SID - Can't setup Language for applications(using xdm, wmaker)

2011-10-06 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Csanyi Pal wrote:

Hi,

after i upgraded to SID when I run Midnight Commander, or Ekiga, or
other application, I get not menus in Hungarian language as I get it
before upgrade.

I'm using XDM as X login and Window Maker as window manager.

I'm trying setup Hungarian environment by editing files in my $HOME
directory: 


.xsessionrc
Language=hu_HU.utf8
Layout=hu standard

~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/autostart
Language=hu_HU.utf8
Layout=hu

I'm tried to reinstall, or reconfigure MC but still get it in English
and not in Hungarian.

However on my consoles, say in xterm or vt1-6 when run 'date' I get date
in Hungarian format.

So in MC I get half in Hungarian (say tips) and half in English (menus,
etc.). 


Did you try posting the MC mailing list?

Hugo



In Ekiga menus are in English and not in Hungarian.

How can I solve this problem?




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Re: Qt-Creator Version

2011-09-22 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Luis Felipe Domínguez Vega wrote:

Why qtcreator has version 1.3 in repo, when it has v2.x


It's 2.2.1 in Sid.

Hugo


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Re: google-chrome pdf editor

2011-09-06 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:54:13 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Google-chrome has a builtin pdf editor. 


An editor or a viewer?


Aha, chrome://plugins says 'Chrome PDF Viewer'. But why would it allow 
you to change text fields?




Most PDF viewers can also fill forms but still are not considered as 
editors.



But when I select a pdf document, for example from www.irs.gov, and
edit it, it acts as if it is editing it, but when I save it none of the
changes are there.

Anyone have this problem?


Haven't tested it but I know there are PDF files that cannot be saved 
locally (it's forbidden by policy), they have been done just to be filled 
and sent online to the remote server (or printed and posted by courier), 
so ensure this is not such case.


The files from www.irs.gov specifically *can* be saved locally


But I bet you'll need Acrobat Reader, I would first test with it.



But with amd64 that is such a dog :-(

Thanks Camaleón...

Hugo






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Re: google-chrome pdf editor

2011-09-06 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Curt wrote:

On 2011-09-05, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote:

Hi,

Google-chrome has a builtin pdf editor.
But when I select a pdf document, for example from www.irs.gov, and edit 
it, it acts as if it is editing it, but when I save it none of the 
changes are there.


Anyone have this problem?



Yes, same thing happens here.  You can fill the form out, but you can
neither save nor print (in my experience) what you've entered into the
fillable fields.




Right. Thanks.

Hugo


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[OT] Google groups advanced search gone

2011-09-06 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

I used to use this:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=+num=100scoring=dhl=iaas_epq=as_oq=as_eq=as_ugroup=linux.debian.useras_usubject=as_uauthors=lr=as_drrb=qas_qdr=as_mind=1as_minm=1as_miny=1981as_maxd=5as_maxm=8as_maxy=2005

To display google group linux.debian.user, which had (and still has) an 
advanced search button.


Pressing that button displayed a form that you could fill out to narrow 
a search, e.g. subject, author, year, etc.


In the last week advanced search displays a blank screen with just the 
word 'Google'.


Can anyone successfully do an advanced search on Google groups for 
linux.debian.user? Or is this an improvement?


Hugo


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Re: [OT] Google groups advanced search gone

2011-09-06 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 12:16:30 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

(...)


Can anyone successfully do an advanced search on Google groups for
linux.debian.user? Or is this an improvement?


Nope, I can't (I get a blank page).

Look what Internet has to say:

Google Groups Advanced Search doesn't work?
http://www.computerbanter.com/showthread.php?t=164763



Good clue. This is a quote:

Maybe they finally realized how terrible it was to destroy the original
dejanews functionality of usenet searching and are working hard in an 
effort

to restore the archive search to its proper status (I'm not holding my
breath).

I'm not holding my breath either.

Thanks Camaleón...

Hugo


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google-chrome pdf editor

2011-09-05 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

Google-chrome has a builtin pdf editor.
But when I select a pdf document, for example from www.irs.gov, and edit 
it, it acts as if it is editing it, but when I save it none of the 
changes are there.


Anyone have this problem?

Hugo


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Re: String Manipulation and a Need for RS-232

2011-08-30 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Martin McCormick wrote:

I have used GCC C for years to write a number of
programs for work and play and it is great but I think I am
needing to branch out a bit as my latest project is causing me
fits.

I have a scanner radio receiver that uses RS-232 to
communicate with the computer and I got that part of things to
work well. Here's the problem. The radio receives commands via
CSV strings as in sin,abc,def,1,7,8,etc,etc\r and its output is
also CSV as in sin,err\r or sin,lot,of,variables,to,read\r

I also got that working such that it could read the
response and break out all the CSV variables in to separate
strings. In other words, it does work and with gdb, one can
trouble-shoot it fairly easily.

I have this nagging feeling, though, that there may be a
better way to write this program since C is not as good at
string manipulation as some other languages. In my program, you
have to do a lot of grunt work just to be sure that the 15TH
field really is the 15TH field in the string one is sending out.

In the standard set of tools that are free and found on
most Unix systems, which language such as perl, python, etc can
handle rS-232 gracefully and do strings without having to
reen vent the wheel?

I had this epiphany after spending most of last weekend
and early this morning digging through this program I had
written only to find that the reason things weren't working was
that it appears that I sent out a CSV string with some of the
variables shifted by a couple of spaces. I can easily fix that,
but it got me to thinking.

If I can do all of this within one language, including
the RS-232 coms, that will be great.



If I were in your situation, I would convert your C programs to C++ 
(changing prog.c to prog.cpp) and use Qt. I use it many places just 
for its string manipulation and Qt has great documentation.


Just install libqt4-dev, qt4-dev-tools, qt4-qmake and qt4-doc.

Create a prog.pro file for your prog.cpp and run 'qmake -o Makefile 
prog.pro' and then 'make' and away you go.


Hugo

















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Re: Error; Skreener stop installing

2011-08-28 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Morning Star wrote:

Hi guys,
I'm having trouble installing skreener. Here are what I do and the 
output result:
user@desktop: ~/Downloads/skreener/skreener-0.1.1$ mkdir b  cd b  
cmake .. -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=release  make -j3


Output in the screen:
-- The C compiler identification is GNU
-- The CXX compiler identification is GNU
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc -- works
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info - done
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++ -- works
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info - done
CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindKDE4.cmake:98 (MESSAGE):
  ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in
  /home/user/.kde/share/apps;/usr/share/kde4/apps
Call Stack (most recent call first):
  CMakeLists.txt:8 (find_package)

$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian 2.6.32-34squeeze1) (da...@debian.org 
mailto:da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) ) #1 SMP 
Wed May 18 07:08:50 UTC 2011 


What should I do?



Use FindKDE4Internal.cmake in 
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages and you get the 
answer:
You have searched for paths that end with FindKDE4Internal.cmake in 
suite sid, all sections, and all architectures. Found 1 results.

kdelibs5-dev

Hugo


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Debian balloons

2011-08-17 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

First time I've noticed this: when I select www.debian.org, I get 
floating balloons on the right side of the page. At the expense of extra 
CPU of course.

Or is it a rootkit?

Hugo


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Re: Debian balloons

2011-08-17 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Sharon Kimble wrote:

On 18 August 2011 00:46, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote:

Hi,

First time I've noticed this: when I select www.debian.org, I get floating
balloons on the right side of the page. At the expense of extra CPU of
course.
Or is it a rootkit?

Hugo


Where are you seeing this, i.e. what browser are you using? I've just
tried iceweasel and I didn't see them.



I see them in google-chrome 14.0.835.94 beta when I first select the 
site, not when I return to the tab.

I don't see them in Omega 11.50 nor in FF 7.0a2

Hugo


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Re: Debian balloons

2011-08-17 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Jens Van Broeckhoven wrote:

Op Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:46:00 -0500
Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com schreef:


Hi,

First time I've noticed this: when I select www.debian.org, I get 
floating balloons on the right side of the page. At the expense of

extra CPU of course.
Or is it a rootkit?

Hugo



See:
http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110816




Missed that. Teriffic celebration. Thanks.

Hugo


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Re: [OT] Google search default lang.

2011-08-13 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

Using Google search always returns my results in Spanish because Google 
has figured out that my ISP is in a Spanish speaking country. But I want 
the results in US Eglish and always have to do an extra mouse click on 
'Google.com in English'


Apparently Google does not record that I always click on that and 
adjusts the default language.


Anybody know how to set the default language for search?




Thanks for all the answers.

I tried all of them and only 2 work:

1. putting http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en in the bookmark 
bar of google-chrome (Thanks Camaleón). That is always in English.
2. Changing the search engine to Yahoo. That gets me English. But I hate 
Yahoo and its Micro$oft random result producer. I tried changing the 
search engine to scroogle and that does not work.


BTW now (13 Aug. 2011) the option in Google search to show results in 
English has gone :-( All results are always in Spanish. So much for the 
virtual world. I am in Oaxaca whether I like it or not. And I will speak 
and write Spanish, whether I like it or not.


Hugo


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sound device or resource busy

2011-08-11 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

Running Sid. Which just upgraded libaudio2, libaudio-dev and nas from 
1.9.2-7 to 1.9.2-8.


I run 2 sound apps: mplayer(sound nly)  and a nas app, that uses nas and 
libaudio2 and liaudio-dev.


Since the upgrade I can only run 1: either the nas app or mplayer, and 
for the other I get:


[AO_ALSA] Playback open error: Device or resource busy

I think it is a bug. But or what package?

Hugo


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Re: [OT] plot execution flows from C/C++ sources

2011-08-10 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Joao Ferreira Gmail wrote:

Hello all,

[  maybe some programers out there... :)  ]

I recently stared working on a project for maintenance and new
developments on an existing huge code base of C/C++ 


It's quite a challenge for newcommers.

Does anyone know of any tools that would help in ploting execution flow
diagrams from the sources ?



This is not something new, I used to do it with IBM Research in the 
80's, but I don't know if it exists for OOP.


Hugo


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Re: sound bell when 'USB disconnect' in syslog

2011-08-06 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:11:24 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


I am looking for a package that will sound the bell when 'USB
disconnect' appears in syslog.

I can write it myself, but does it already exist?


I'm not aware of any :-?

There is one pretty close to what you need but it only generates visual 
alerts:


udev-notify
http://udev-notify.learnfree.eu/

I think you will need something similar, based on udev for monitoring USB 
events and act accordingly using a set of rules...




Thanks, Camaleón. The beep backage actually has an example of doing it:

tail -f /var/log/xferlog | grep --line-buffered passwd | \
  beep -f 1000 -r 5 -s

I know I had seen it somewhere ;-)

Hugo


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sound bell when 'USB disconnect' in syslog

2011-08-05 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

I am looking for a package that will sound the bell when 'USB 
disconnect' appears in syslog.


I can write it myself, but does it already exist?

Hugo


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Re: How do You return Your system to some exact state?

2011-08-03 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Sthu Deus wrote:

Good time of the day.

Are there some tricks OR would You share Your own on this stuff:

As it is VERY hard to low versions of the installed packages, how do
You return Your system to some exact state after You have tried new
versions of pckages?

What I would do is to copy whole the system, then delete the current
and copy it back in archive mode of cp, reinstall/update grub as
necessary...



If I were to do this I would do a mondoarchive run before the install 
and if I needed to revert back do a mondorescue. Works like a charm.



Hugo


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Re: 2.6.39-amd64 lvm-based root: fails to boot

2011-07-31 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:

folks, hi,

bug reported: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=636123

i was wondering if anyone else has a similar configuration (booting
off of root LVM partitions) and had encountered similar issues of root
filesystems being unrecognised.



I run / on an LVM partition.
Running uptodate Sid.
No problems.

Hugo


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Re: picture import from camera - gthumb

2011-07-30 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Tomas Kral wrote:

Dear List,

How do I import pictures from a digital camera on Squeeze?

On Lenny I installed gthumb application that was called by
gnome-volume-manager when a camera was plugged in to a USB slot.

When I try to install gthumb on Squeeze it insists on removing the whole
gnome-desktop.

Is there a replacement app to gthumb, that I could set to handle the
picture import?



I use gphoto2 as CLI: 'gphoto2 -P'
That dumps all te files in the dir. where it is executed.

Hugo


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Re: Mounting two usb drives

2011-07-29 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Go Linux wrote:


--- On Thu, 7/28/11, Ethan Rosenberg eth...@earthlink.net wrote:


From: Ethan Rosenberg eth...@earthlink.net
Subject: Mounting two usb drives
To: debian-user-lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 1:59 PM
Dear list -

How do I mount two usb drives at the same time.  Both
usb drives have only one partition.




I have probably 10 usb drives all with multiple partitions.  The partitions are 
labeled and I have fstab entries for all of them. As soon as they are plugged 
in all the partitions are mounted.  I have had as many as three drives mounted 
at one time.  No problem.




10? Really?

Hugo


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Re: More than 150 up-to-date Debian howtos tutorials online (server, virtualization, etc)

2011-07-28 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Christoph Pilka wrote:

Hi folks,

in the last months I've published more than 150 Debian howtos which
are online now at  http://www.asconix.com/howtos/debian



They seem to be all in German even after selecting the UK flag.



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Re: can't suspend in linux-image-3.0.0-1

2011-07-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2011-07-25 20:39 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:


On 2011-07-25 20:29 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


I can't issue 'acpitool -S' in linux-image-3.0.0-1:

 Function Do_Suspend : could not open file : /proc/acpi/sleep.
 You must have write access to /proc/acpi/sleep to suspend your computer.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=635391

Please reassign this bug to acpitool, it needs to use /sys/power/state
instead.  /proc/acpi/sleep has been deprecated since Linux 2.6.23 and
was removed in 2.6.36.


Looking into the source, acpitool *does* use /sys/power/state on 2.6
kernels but defaults to /proc/acpi/sleep on other versions.  It also
parses /proc/sys/kernel/osrelease for obtaining the kernel version
instead of using uname(2) like everybody else.  Oh well.



Thanks Sven, you go ahead of me. I was just going to look at the source.
Bug is closed.

Hugo


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Re: can't suspend in linux-image-3.0.0-1

2011-07-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2011-07-25 20:39 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:


On 2011-07-25 20:29 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


I can't issue 'acpitool -S' in linux-image-3.0.0-1:

 Function Do_Suspend : could not open file : /proc/acpi/sleep.
 You must have write access to /proc/acpi/sleep to suspend your 
computer.


http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=635391

Please reassign this bug to acpitool, it needs to use /sys/power/state
instead.  /proc/acpi/sleep has been deprecated since Linux 2.6.23 and
was removed in 2.6.36.


Looking into the source, acpitool *does* use /sys/power/state on 2.6
kernels but defaults to /proc/acpi/sleep on other versions.  It also
parses /proc/sys/kernel/osrelease for obtaining the kernel version
instead of using uname(2) like everybody else.  Oh well.



Thanks Sven, you go ahead of me. I was just going to look at the source.
Bug is closed.



I meant 'got' ahead of me. The keyboard got ahead of me too.
It's http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=635537

Hugo


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linux-image-3.0.0-1-arch

2011-07-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

linux-image-3.0.0-1-amd64 just made its appearance on Sid.
That's a milestone...

Hugo


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can't suspend in linux-image-3.0.0-1

2011-07-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

I can't issue 'acpitool -S' in linux-image-3.0.0-1:

 Function Do_Suspend : could not open file : /proc/acpi/sleep.
 You must have write access to /proc/acpi/sleep to suspend your computer.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=635391

Hugo


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Re: can't suspend in linux-image-3.0.0-1

2011-07-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2011-07-25 20:29 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


I can't issue 'acpitool -S' in linux-image-3.0.0-1:

 Function Do_Suspend : could not open file : /proc/acpi/sleep.
 You must have write access to /proc/acpi/sleep to suspend your computer.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=635391


Please reassign this bug to acpitool, it needs to use /sys/power/state
instead.  /proc/acpi/sleep has been deprecated since Linux 2.6.23 and
was removed in 2.6.36.



But how come this works in 2.6.39-2 and not in 3.0.0-1 ? And this is 
with the same acpitool.


Hugo


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[OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

Since about 6 months I have an Asus M4N98TD EVO mobo. Very satisfied 
with it.


It has a feature on its BIOS that got me stumped.

BIOS has a Power Menu that has a submenu of APM configuration.

APM configuration has an item Power On by PS/2 Keyboard that I had set 
to space bar. But I was getting errors on my keyboard. So I bought a 
new keyboard, which had exactly the same errors, so the problem was not 
the keyboard.


So I disabled that feature.

Now what has me stumped is that even though Power on by PS/2 Keyboard 
is disabled, I can still power on the system by hitting the space bar 
twice. And it seems that the keyboard errors have disappeared.


Anyone venture an explanation?

Thanks.

Hugo


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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:20:22 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

(...)


APM configuration has an item Power On by PS/2 Keyboard that I had set
to space bar. But I was getting errors on my keyboard. So I bought a
new keyboard, which had exactly the same errors, so the problem was not
the keyboard.

So I disabled that feature.

Now what has me stumped is that even though Power on by PS/2 Keyboard
is disabled, I can still power on the system by hitting the space bar
twice. And it seems that the keyboard errors have disappeared.

Anyone venture an explanation?


You mean that although you have that option turned off in the BIOS you 
can still start your computer -from a cold state, not from suspension nor 
hibernation- when you hit the space bar? And just the space bar or any 
key?


It could be a BIOS problem, then. Have you contacted Asus for this?



I always during the last couple of months power off with 'acpitool 
-S'. BIOS Power on by PS/2 Keyboard is disabled. Then power is turned 
off on the system. Turn power back on, hit the space bar, and the system 
comes back up. Grub-legacy shows its menu and I select the partition 
that was running and that has 'resume=LABEL=6Y080P0.05'. That loads 
everything from the swap space and resumes.


I have not tried other keys, but next time around I will.

I have not asked Asus because I am afraid they will ask what version 
windows I have installed.


This mobo has a weird feature: you can select 'express gate' and get 
access to a linux O/S that gets you access to the internet and skype. 
I have it disabled and never have tried that.


Hugo


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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

lee wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com writes:


Now what has me stumped is that even though Power on by PS/2
Keyboard is disabled, I can still power on the system by hitting the
space bar twice. And it seems that the keyboard errors have
disappeared.


Well, I consider a mainboard that does this as broken.  What if the cat
runs over the keyboard ...




No cat. But there is Mechas. But she has trouble depressing the 'on' 
button of the UPS...


Hugo


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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:18:41 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Camaleón wrote:


(...)


Anyone venture an explanation?

You mean that although you have that option turned off in the BIOS you
can still start your computer -from a cold state, not from suspension
nor hibernation- when you hit the space bar? And just the space bar or
any key?

It could be a BIOS problem, then. Have you contacted Asus for this?



I always during the last couple of months power off with 'acpitool
-S'. 


***
-S  suspend (sleep state S4), if supported
***

Then you are not powering off the computer but hibernating.


BIOS Power on by PS/2 Keyboard is disabled. Then power is turned off on
the system.


Okay.


Turn power back on, hit the space bar, and the system comes back up.
Grub-legacy shows its menu and I select the partition that was running
and that has 'resume=LABEL=6Y080P0.05'. That loads everything from the
swap space and resumes.


It looks like you are getting into hibernation instead of performing a 
full power off but anyway, AFAIK restoring from hibernation can be only 
done from power button, not from keyboard :-?




Right. That's what I thought. I believe that the BIOS Power on from 
Keyboard option brought on my keyboard errors. The new keyboard that I 
bought (since returned to the store...)had a multitude of multimedia 
buttons and a power button, which I hit, and... it powered off the 
system. As of yet the keyboard errors have not returned to my IBM 
keyboard from 1993.




I have not tried other keys, but next time around I will.


Yes, and also try to completely shutdown the machine and then press the 
space bar to see what happens. Computer should not start.
 

I have not asked Asus because I am afraid they will ask what version
windows I have installed.


Well, this is a BIOS issue more that a OS problem.


This mobo has a weird feature: you can select 'express gate' and get
access to a linux O/S that gets you access to the internet and skype.
I have it disabled and never have tried that.


I fear all of those new settings... I also prefer to keep the old-and-
well-known options for the BIOS that have been working since decades and 
keep the rest disabled :-}




To make it worse, you have to use MS windows to download the Linux O/S 
for that Express Gate option.


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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:18:41 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Camaleón wrote:


(...)


Anyone venture an explanation?

You mean that although you have that option turned off in the BIOS you
can still start your computer -from a cold state, not from suspension
nor hibernation- when you hit the space bar? And just the space bar or
any key?

It could be a BIOS problem, then. Have you contacted Asus for this?



I always during the last couple of months power off with 'acpitool
-S'. 


***
-S  suspend (sleep state S4), if supported
***

Then you are not powering off the computer but hibernating.


BIOS Power on by PS/2 Keyboard is disabled. Then power is turned off on
the system.


Okay.


Turn power back on, hit the space bar, and the system comes back up.
Grub-legacy shows its menu and I select the partition that was running
and that has 'resume=LABEL=6Y080P0.05'. That loads everything from the
swap space and resumes.


It looks like you are getting into hibernation instead of performing a 
full power off but anyway, AFAIK restoring from hibernation can be 
only done from power button, not from keyboard :-?




Right. That's what I thought. I believe that the BIOS Power on from 
Keyboard option brought on my keyboard errors. The new keyboard that I 
bought (since returned to the store...)had a multitude of multimedia 
buttons and a power button, which I hit, and... it powered off the 
system. As of yet the keyboard errors have not returned to my IBM 
keyboard from 1993.




I have not tried other keys, but next time around I will.


Hitting any key powers up the system.

Hugo

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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

lee wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com writes:


lee wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com writes:


Now what has me stumped is that even though Power on by PS/2
Keyboard is disabled, I can still power on the system by hitting the
space bar twice. And it seems that the keyboard errors have
disappeared.

Well, I consider a mainboard that does this as broken.  What if the cat
runs over the keyboard ...



No cat. But there is Mechas. But she has trouble depressing the 'on'
button of the UPS...


What's Mechas?

So everyone who uses this mainboard needs an UPS with an On button
that is hard to press ...  Is the UPS included then?




Mechas is not a 'what', she is a 'who'. I have an UPS to prevent damage 
from power outages which are common here. The UPS is an APC BR700G and 
completely separate from the system with the Asus mobo.


Hugo


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Re: Backup Software

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

mark wrote:

On Wednesday 20 July 2011 11:52:45 pm Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

Dear List -

What software would you recommend to backup a Debian system on a
stand-alone computer?


I've used mondoarchive for years.  It works and is well supported by 
the author and community.  It is NOT GUI based.  This is a major 
advantage if your system crashes and you can get to a console, but 
not to a gui. (I had that problem a couple of months ago.  
Mondoarchive saved my computer's data and allowed me to restore it.) 
It backs up to CD-R, CD-RW, DVD, USB key/disk, Tape, Net mount or 
hard disk.  It compresses the data and makes your backup media 
bootable (within reason).


It is worth the time.



I second that. I have used mondoarchive for years and it is my tool of 
choice. Very well supported too, although presently without Debian 
Maintainer.


Hugo


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Re: ssh: no route to host

2011-07-22 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Brian wrote:

On Wed 20 Jul 2011 at 14:51:45 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Camaleón wrote:
Yep, as Walter suggested, this can be a problem with DHCP that has 
given another IP to the laptop. If you have only two machines in the 
LAN, give them static IPs so you don't have to depend on your router's 
DHCP eccentricities :-)


But the IP should show up in ifconfig, no? And that did not change after  
the failure...


The advice is still not unsound though. It will take DHCP out of
consideration.

Is the problem one which appears after being able to ssh to the laptop
successfully at some earlier time, like 5 minutes ago? What happens with
ping/traceroute/ssh/telnet/route/arp from desktop to laptop and vice
versa? Is there wireless on either machine? Does taking down the firewall
on the router make any difference?




No, the problem occurs only after I reboot the laptop. After 
rebooting, sometimes, the no route message appears after trying to ssh 
from the desktop.


Hugo


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Re: ssh: no route to host

2011-07-22 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Joe wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:55:16 +0100
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:


On Wed 20 Jul 2011 at 14:51:45 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Camaleón wrote:
Yep, as Walter suggested, this can be a problem with DHCP that has 
given another IP to the laptop. If you have only two machines in

the LAN, give them static IPs so you don't have to depend on your
router's DHCP eccentricities :-)


But the IP should show up in ifconfig, no? And that did not change
after the failure...

The advice is still not unsound though. It will take DHCP out of
consideration.

Is the problem one which appears after being able to ssh to the laptop
successfully at some earlier time, like 5 minutes ago? What happens
with ping/traceroute/ssh/telnet/route/arp from desktop to laptop and
vice versa? Is there wireless on either machine? Does taking down the
firewall on the router make any difference?




Another line of thought: being a laptop, does it go into standby or
hibernation? Debian doesn't have a great record for waking up the
machine properly afterwards.

Not without first doing some research using Ubuntu...



No, as I said, the problem only occurs after doing a reboot on the laptop

Hugo


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Re: Multiseat on Nvidia Card

2011-07-22 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Marcelo Luiz de Laia wrote:

Thank you for point me out that Nvidia Forum post.

In there, I found:

[quote]
The trick it seems is to start both X servers as close in time as
possible to one another.
[/quote]

[quote]
To make it easier on myself, I have written two simple bash scripts
that wait until the other script is running before they start the X
servers. This ensures both start very close together.
[/quote]

Could someone that have skill on bash script help me here? I didn't
have no idea how do that.



I thought you used gdm to start the servers. Where would the scripts go?

Hugo


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Re: Multiseat on Nvidia Card

2011-07-21 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Marcelo Luiz de Laia wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to setup a multiseat in one nvidia card.

First monitor is on VGA and second is on DVI.

I got only one seat work.



snip

Good of you to try!
I never tried it with only one videocard, always with 2 videocards.
Where are the 2 mice + keyboards?
You might ask:
multis...@lists.fedorahosted.org
But it is not very active. And I am not sure of the latest NVidia code 
and gdm3 is a total loss.

I always used 'faketty' by Aivils Stoss:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Multiseat_Configuration/faketty
Keep us posted!

Hugo


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Re: Multiseat on Nvidia Card

2011-07-21 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Marcelo Luiz de Laia wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to setup a multiseat in one nvidia card.

First monitor is on VGA and second is on DVI.

I got only one seat work.

Here is Xorg.1.log

(...)
[38.080] (EE) NVIDIA(0): EVO Push buffer channel allocation failed


http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=143886
has an authoritative answer from NVidia that you cannot run 2 xservers 
from one card and a response that it was posible with VGA and TV OUT.


Hugo


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ssh: no route to host

2011-07-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

my home network consist of a desktop and a laptop connected to a router 
that goes to the internet. The firewall is on the router.


Every so often when I connect from the desktop to the laptop with ssh, I 
get:


ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.194 port 22: No route to host

The way I get aound that is to power off the laptop and reboot it

That seems a dumb way to do it.

How is that resolved without rebooting?

Hugo


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Re: contents of huge kernel log

2011-07-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Frank McCormick wrote:


Finally had a look at whats in the multi-gig kernel log:

ul 19 20:25:24 sid kernel: [ 5638.712049] [drm:intel_prepare_page_flip] 
*ERROR* Prepared flip multiple times
Jul 19 20:25:24 sid kernel: [ 5638.712049] [drm:intel_prepare_page_flip] 
*ERROR* Prepared flip multiple times
Jul 19 20:25:24 sid kernel: [ 5638.712049] [drm:intel_prepare_page_flip] 
*ERROR* Prepared flip multiple times
Jul 19 20:25:24 sid kernel: [ 5638.712049] [drm:intel_prepare_page_flip] 
*ERROR* Prepared flip multiple times
Jul 19 20:25:24 sid kernel: [ 5638.712049] [drm:intel_prepare_page_flip] 
*ERROR* Prepared flip multiple times
Jul 19 20:25:24 sid kernel: [ 5638.712049] [drm:intel_prepare_page_flip] 
*ERROR* Prepared flip multiple times
Jul 19 20:25:24 sid kernel: [ 5638.712049] [drm:intel_prepare_page_flip] 
*ERROR* Prepared flip multiple times


Sorry for the word wrap.  This is an error from the Intel driver
that I have seen before, but never while watching streaming video.
I am going to file a bug against the driver but is there a way to 
prevent this (error being logged) in the future?





But it would seem that somebody should be watching out for the fact that 
filling syslog till no space is left in the partition is useless. I 
recall in te past messages in syslog to the effect of error xx 
occurred xxx times. But I don't see those anymore.


Hugo


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Re: ssh: no route to host

2011-07-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Walter Hurry wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:05:24 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Hi,

my home network consist of a desktop and a laptop connected to a router
that goes to the internet. The firewall is on the router.

Every so often when I connect from the desktop to the laptop with ssh, I
get:

ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.194 port 22: No route to host

The way I get aound that is to power off the laptop and reboot it

That seems a dumb way to do it.

How is that resolved without rebooting?


Are you using DHCP? Next time it happens, go to the laptop and look at 
what ifconfig has to say before you reboot it.






Yes, using DHCP


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Re: ssh: no route to host

2011-07-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Greg Madden wrote:


On Wednesday 20 July 2011 07:17:29 am Walter Hurry wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:05:24 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

my home network consist of a desktop and a laptop connected to a router
that goes to the internet. The firewall is on the router.

Every so often when I connect from the desktop to the laptop with ssh, I
get:

ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.194 port 22: No route to host

The way I get aound that is to power off the laptop and reboot it

That seems a dumb way to do it.

How is that resolved without rebooting?

Are you using DHCP? Next time it happens, go to the laptop and look at
what ifconfig has to say before you reboot it.


Before  a reboot try from a term as root:
1. 'dhclient ethX' : 
2. 'service networking restart'


I did that and it did not resolve he problem.

Hugo


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Re: ssh: no route to host

2011-07-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:05:24 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

(...)


Every so often when I connect from the desktop to the laptop with ssh, I
get:

ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.194 port 22: No route to host


(...)

Yep, as Walter suggested, this can be a problem with DHCP that has given 
another IP to the laptop. If you have only two machines in the LAN, give 
them static IPs so you don't have to depend on your router's DHCP 
eccentricities :-)




But the IP should show up in ifconfig, no? And that did not change after 
the failure...


Hugo


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Re: ssh: no route to host

2011-07-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Walter Hurry wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:05:24 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Hi,

my home network consist of a desktop and a laptop connected to a router
that goes to the internet. The firewall is on the router.

Every so often when I connect from the desktop to the laptop with ssh, I
get:

ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.194 port 22: No route to host

The way I get aound that is to power off the laptop and reboot it

That seems a dumb way to do it.

How is that resolved without rebooting?


Are you using DHCP? Next time it happens, go to the laptop and look at 
what ifconfig has to say before you reboot it.






Looked at ifconfig and it looked the same as when I can ssh.
Still he only way I can fix this is by powering off/on.

Hugo


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partimage partition size

2011-07-12 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

I created a 20GB partition:

Model: SAMSUNG HD502HJ (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdb: 500GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos

Number  Start   End SizeType File system  Flags
 1  32.3kB  20.0GB  20.0GB  primary  ext2
 2  20.0GB  40.0GB  20.0GB  primary  ext2

Then I restored with partimage a partition to /dev/sdb2 that was 
originally 13GB.


Now df shows that /dev/sdb2 is only 13GB:

debian:/var/cache/apt/archives# df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb2 13456580   7654296   5118720  60% /
tmpfs  1033084 0   1033084   0% /lib/init/rw
udev 10240   824  9416   9% /dev
tmpfs  1033084 0   1033084   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sdb1 19228276   3808488  14443040  21% /sdb1

How do I get that pack to 20GB?

Hugo


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Re: partimage partition size

2011-07-12 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I created a 20GB partition:

Model: SAMSUNG HD502HJ (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdb: 500GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos

Number  Start   End SizeType File system  Flags
 1  32.3kB  20.0GB  20.0GB  primary  ext2
 2  20.0GB  40.0GB  20.0GB  primary  ext2

Then I restored with partimage a partition to /dev/sdb2 that was 
originally 13GB.


Now df shows that /dev/sdb2 is only 13GB:

debian:/var/cache/apt/archives# df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb2 13456580   7654296   5118720  60% /
tmpfs  1033084 0   1033084   0% /lib/init/rw
udev 10240   824  9416   9% /dev
tmpfs  1033084 0   1033084   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sdb1 19228276   3808488  14443040  21% /sdb1

How do I get that pack to 20GB?



Thanks for the answers. I think it's a case of RTFM?

Hugo


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Re: Apt says it's okay to remove chromium, but I use it

2011-07-10 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

David Baron wrote:
On Sunday 08 Tamuz 5771 13:30:07 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org 
wrote:

`apt-get install chromium` will mark it as manually installed.

On squeeze: chromium - transitional dummy package for chromium-bsu

On wheezy onwards, I take it, chromium points to the browser


chromium-bsu is a nice space-invadors game.
chrome is a 4G language used by netscape, komodo and some other programs.
As you see, there are naming problems here.

Chrome used to be the nice shiney stuff that made up the bumpers and trim on 
cars. Now this is all yukky plastic and rubber.





and the best of the bunch was the bumper on my 1976 AMC Pacer

Hugo


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Re: Looking for an alternative to mysql

2011-07-09 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

D G Teed wrote:

snip



Sorry, but your question seemed naive and still seems so.  I was actually
hoping to hear my understanding of your concern was wrong.

There are thousands of web sites, big and small, using mysql and postgresql.

They all have bugs, just as any Linux or another other OS we choose has
bugs, some big, some small.

Oracle has bugs as well - some as serious as found in any major open source
database project.

This inability to install a database is not a real inability, but rather
an irrational choice.  If mysql was seriously flawed, then it should 
surely fall

apart under the weight of its use to power facebook.

If the facebook example seems like a one hit wonder, take a look at the 
other

customers of mysql:

http://www.mysql.com/customers/

If stability is your concern, don't run with Sid.  It is for development 
work and

testing changes.  People might run Sid on the desktop for getting slightly
later and greater packages, but Sid is not for production use.




I agree. I have been running mysql under Sid for years. Very satisfied.

Hugo





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Re: Tesseract...

2011-07-07 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Sthu Deus wrote:

Good time of the day.


Here are:

https://launchpad.net/~nutznboltz/+archive/tesseract/+sourcepub/1729019/+listing-archive-extra

plenty of missing in Debian 6 language packages w/ the updated program
itself.

Can't it be easily backported to D6 ones it is in Ubuntu?

I would like to do it myself, but I never did that.





Could you rephrase what the problem is with tesseract?
In Squeeze?

Hugo



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Re: Restarting network

2011-07-07 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Wayne Topa wrote:

On 07/07/2011 10:42 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

Having made some config changes to my network, I did:

root@tony-lx:/home/tony# /etc/init.d/networking restart

That results in:

Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not 
enable again some interfaces ... (warning).

Reconfiguring network interfaces...

OK, so it's deprecated. What should I use instead??



Um how about in wheezy or sid
service networking stop ; service networking start



Neat. Sad to say I did not know 'service' :-(

Hugo


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Re: manual wvdial installation

2011-06-22 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Rohit Vaidya wrote:
I wanted to install wvdial to dial from my wireless 3g modem. I can do 
that using windows.
But since I don't have wvdial installed in debian linux I have to 
download it from other OS

and get it installed on debian.
The dependency path trace is as wvdial - wvstreams - openssl .
Even after installing the openssl deb the wstreams installation gives
me an error:
  configure: error: Required /dependencies/ missing: /OpenSSL/=0.9.7


What level was the openssl deb that you installed?

I understand apt-get is the easy way out but without an internet 
connection its of no use.

Is there any better way to resolve these dependencies manually?


Download the debs and install with dpkg.

Hugo



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Re: [OT] Google search default lang.

2011-06-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 20/06/11 18:35, Dave Sherohman wrote:

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 01:14:11PM -0300, Leandro DUTRA wrote:

2011/6/19 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com:

Google - language tools (under advanced) - preferences

Even better, set the system???s or the user account???s language.

Oh, if only it were that simple...  Most internationalized websites
(including Google) seem to have completely given up on Accept-Language
headers[1] in favor of relying on IP geolocation.  I'm an American expat
living in Sweden, so my browsers are set to send

Accept-Language: en-us, en, sv-se

Despite this, every time my Google cookie expires, it sends me the
Swedish version of the page.  Setting language preferences on the client
side does *not* work[2] for Google or most other sites.


[1] apparently on the theory that most users don't know how to set
their preferred lanuages, so the header specifies the browser's default
instead of the user's preference

[2] even though it damn well should



Are you sure this is not also Google's geolocation feature?
Firefox/Iceweasel = about:config = geo.enabled (double-click to disable)

Chrome = spanner_thingie = Options = Under the hood = Location = Do
not allow any site to track my physical location

You can test here:-
http://benwerd.com/lab/geo.php

There used to be are Google url that did the same thing
(www.google.com/nl or similar) I cant' remember the what it was - and
whether it still works.



Good clues. But google search still shows up in Spanish :-(

Hugo


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[OT] Google search default lang.

2011-06-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

Using Google search always returns my results in Spanish because Google 
has figured out that my ISP is in a Spanish speaking country. But I want 
the results in US Eglish and always have to do an extra mouse click on 
'Google.com in English'


Apparently Google does not record that I always click on that and 
adjusts the default language.


Anybody know how to set the default language for search?

Hugo


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Re: [OT] Google search default lang.

2011-06-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Lisi wrote:

On Sunday 19 June 2011 16:55:57 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

Using Google search always returns my results in Spanish because Google
has figured out that my ISP is in a Spanish speaking country. But I want
the results in US Eglish and always have to do an extra mouse click on
'Google.com in English'

Apparently Google does not record that I always click on that and
adjusts the default language.

Anybody know how to set the default language for search?

Hugo


Google - language tools (under advanced) - preferences



I use Google-chrome as browser and enter a search by entering it in the 
URL/search bar. The resultant screen does not have 'advanced'.


Hugo


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Re: [OT] Google search default lang.

2011-06-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Wayne Topa wrote:

On 06/19/2011 11:55 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

Using Google search always returns my results in Spanish because Google
has figured out that my ISP is in a Spanish speaking country. But I want
the results in US Eglish and always have to do an extra mouse click on
'Google.com in English'

Apparently Google does not record that I always click on that and
adjusts the default language.

Anybody know how to set the default language for search?



How about

about:config
font.language.group;x-western
intl.accept_languages;en-us, en


Google-chrome does not have an 'about:config'.

Hugo


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Re: Cannot rebuild kernel with custom DSDT

2011-06-17 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Taylor Brown wrote:

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Hey, thanks! I guess it was a bug with the source because after a wait
and an update the kernel compiled fine.




Great! Glad it worked...

Hugo


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Re: What controls X?

2011-06-17 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
Hi list, 

after some update long time ago, kdm is starting on console 9 instead od 
console 7 (which is deafult).


I could still not find out, where X is controlled at. I found this process:

root 10358  7.8  1.9 146300 41052 tty10Rs+  19:13  14:11 /usr/bin/X :0 
vt10 -br -nolisten tcp -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-DzJNF


Examing the system, I found in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc

exec /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp $@

where $@ I suppose is the console-number.

But where does it get from? In kdmrc the terminal is configured, that it should 
use the next free console (ServerVTs=-7).File /etc/inittab is identically like 
on my other computers, where X is still running on console 7.


Just on my amd64-system it is started wrong. Although it is not a big problem 
at all, I am very interested, how things work together, as I found no 
misconfigured configuration yet. 

It would be nice, if someone might point me, which configs are involved, and 
maybe which steps I should check, to get X back to console 7.


(besides: Of course, it is working, if I change 

ServerVTs=-7

but as this setting is workingh on all my other systems, I want to leave it as 
set by default and find out, why the same settings differ only on this special 
machine.


Hope, someone knwos better, as I try to solve this now since months.



I note that with gdm3 X jumps to console 8 upon restart of gdm3.

Hugo





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Re: Cannot rebuild kernel with custom DSDT

2011-06-15 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Taylor Brown wrote:

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Hi there,

I have a Toshiba L640 laptop that came with a buggy DSDT that prevents
Linux from recognizing the battery. I filed bug #609846 about this and
am following similar reports on the Linux and Launchpad mailing lists:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=609846

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34532
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15707

https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/703302


As a workaround, I am trying to rebuild the Debian kernel with a
modified DSDT file. I have edited and recompiled the DSDT file per the
following tutorial:

http://techinterplay.com/fix-toshiba-battery-issue-linux.html

That is, I changed OperationRegion (EMEM, SystemMemory, 0xFF808001,
0xFF) to
OperationRegion (EMEM, EmbeddedControl, 0x00, 0xFF) as well as the
length lines. It compiles with zero errors and five warnings.


I followed exactly the instructions on the Debian Wiki page about
overriding the dsdt and rebuilding the official kernel:

http://wiki.debian.org/OverridingDSDT


The compilation fails. I have never (successfully ;-)) compiled a kernel
before, so I would appreciate any advice. Below I have reproduced
exactly the sequence of commands that I tried for the rebuild:

$ apt-get source linux-2.6
$ cd linux-2.6-2.6.32/
$ dch --local +dsdt

/* added comment custom dsdt to changelog */


$ vim debian/config/defines

/* changed line from abiname: 5 to abiname: dsdt */


$ make -f debian/rules source-all

/* exited with expected status: */

This target is made to fail intentionally, to make sure
that it is NEVER run during the automated build. Please
ignore the following error, the debian/control file has
been generated SUCCESSFULLY.


$ fakeroot make -f debian/rules.gen setup_amd64_none_amd64
$ cd debian/build/build_amd64_none_amd64/
$ vim .config

/*
changed CONFIG_STANDALONE=n to CONFIG_STANDALONE=y

changed # CONFIG_ACPI_CUSTOM_DSDT is not set to
CONFIG_ACPI_CUSTOM_DSDT=y

added ''CONFIG_ACPI_CUSTOM_DSDT_FILE=/root/dsdt/dsdt-fixed.hex
*/


$ cd ../../..
$ fakeroot make -f debian/rules.gen binary-arch_amd64 binary-indep
DEBIAN_KERNEL_JOBS=4

/*
make fails and exits with error 2. here are the final lines of output
leading up the the error:
*/

  CC [M]  fs/xfs/linux-2.6/xfs_xattr.o
  CC [M]  fs/xfs/support/debug.o
  CC [M]  fs/xfs/support/uuid.o
  LD [M]  fs/xfs/xfs.o
  LD  fs/built-in.o
make[3]: *** [sub-make] Error 2
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/taylor/src/linux-2.6-2.6.32/debian/build/build_amd64_none_amd64'
make[1]: *** [debian/stamps/build_amd64_none_amd64_plain] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/taylor/src/linux-2.6-2.6.32'
make: *** [binary-arch_amd64_none_amd64_real] Error 2


Was this error caused by the custom dsdt, by some improper command or
setting, or by a bug in the source?

I'm running an up-to-date installation of Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.1
(squeeze) with the current kernel, 2.6.32-5-amd64. If I can provide any
additional information, let me know, and thanks in advance.




The error info. is not too helpful.
If it were happening to me, I would try the compile again with the 
make-kpkg command, part of kernel-package:


make-kpkg --revision something --append-to-version something else 
--initrd kernel_image


Hugo



















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Re: generating graphs

2011-06-11 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Maros Zilka wrote:

Hi,

I want to generate a graphs of CPU usage, temperatures etc ... and then
put them on the web page. Can you recommend me some good program for
this ? I know i can use Google or search packages but i want to know
your opinion what is the best.



You ean like this:
http://debian-oaxaca.blogspot.com/2011/06/blog-post.html

Hugo


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Re: broadcom

2011-06-11 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Chris Brennan wrote:

* steef debian.li...@home.nl [2011-06-11 15:32:00 +0200]:


hi list,

bought my self a hp mini-netbook, included windoze7 and a very strong accu, 10 
hours of life.


What's 'accu'?


Steef means 'battery'





i put sid on an usb-stick, included fluxbox and wicd(-curses).

wifi = (lspci) brcm4313. (type 5.60.350.6)


Can you paste the whole line from lspci?

'lspci | grep 4313' should do (without the quotes)

loaded/installed the according the debian broadcom-  (broadcom 43xx wireless 
drivers)  -wiki convenient driver_firmware. the driver should be included in 
the sid_kernel, so i understood. however: this wifi_driver does not work.


See below link.


my questions: what did i do wrong if anything (1) ?


My question, what *did* you do? Can you be a little more specific about the
process you did follow?


and

broadcom assued a so-called xxx-STA driver (by google) somebody with some 
experience with this brcm4313 driver for linux (tar.gz) does this one work for 
my mini_netbook (2) ?


Link?


if i find a working driver i can get rid of w7.


http://wiki.debian.org/wl is what I used on my HP laptop. I've actually had 
Debian 6 (Squeeze) installed on there for several months now and I *JUST* got wireless working

within the last few days, it was based on the above link that I got it working, 
it's
fairly straight-forward and your 4313 is listed (mine is a 4312).

One thing I do recommend, if you have a physical wifi switch, to toggle it after the 
new wl driver is loaded, that was the trick that got it working for me, once I did, it

turned blue and I immediately connected to my Router





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Re: broadcom

2011-06-11 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 12/06/11 00:27, Chris Brennan wrote:

* steef debian.li...@home.nl [2011-06-11 15:32:00 +0200]:


hi list,

bought my self a hp mini-netbook, included windoze7 and a very strong accu, 10 
hours of life.

What's 'accu'?



A dutch battery (they have wooden shoes, called clogs)



No, no, they're called 'klompen'

Hugo


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Re: is sabertooth X58 compatible?

2011-06-09 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Pol Hallen wrote:

Hi folks :-)

I'd like buy this mb 
http://uk.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1366/SABERTOOTH_X58/


is this mb compatible with debian 6?



NewEgg sells that for $200:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131665

They had these Linux comments:

 Linux (Ubuntu 10.10) would not see the drives connected to SATA3. 
Windows 7 had no problems though.



Cons: The Marvell SATA-3 6Gbps is NOT yet supported on Linux. It does 
NOT work. However you can set the BIOS to AHCI mode and still use the 
port in Linux which will run in compatability mode at 133. Best use the 
3Gbps ports for now.


Hugo


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Re: Midnight commander parse errors

2011-06-09 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2011-06-08 19:51 +0200, Brian wrote:


On Wed 08 Jun 2011 at 11:58:42 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:


Am I the only one still seeing Midnight Commander parse errors when
trying to look inside deb files ? This has been going on , in my case
for two months now. Is there a solution ?

It's the time to use ar -x. Or be patient.


Nah, neither.  This is free software after all…


http://www.midnight-commander.org/ticket/2552


…and there's even a patch available!  The bug is in a perl script
(/usr/lib/mc/extfs.d/deb) that you can edit directly if you don't care
about debsums complaining:

--8---cut here---start-8---
--- deb.orig2010-09-08 00:00:00.0 +0200
+++ deb 2011-05-10 15:46:07.0 +0200
@@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
{
while(PIPEIN)
{
-   split;
+   @_ = split;
 
 			$perm=$_[0]; $owgr=$_[1]; $size=$_[2];

if($_[3] =~ /^\d\d\d\d\-/) { # New tar format
@@ -100,7 +100,7 @@
 {
while(PIPEIN)
{
-   split;
+   @_  = split;
$size=$_[0];
last if $size =~ /:/;
next if $size !~ /\d+/;
--8---cut here---end---8---

Rebuilding the package is of course cleaner, but I was too lazy to
do that.



Thanks. I missed that patch.
Still running mc 2:4.6.2~git20080311-4 and for that the deb script is in 


/usr/share/mc/extfs.
Works great.

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Re: Midnight commander parse errors

2011-06-08 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Frank McCormick wrote:

Am I the only one still seeing Midnight Commander parse errors when
trying to look inside deb files ? This has been going on , in my case
for two months now. Is there a solution ?





You're certainly not the only one.
I have not found a solution: it does not seem to be dependent on the 
version of mc.


Hugo


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Re: Backup script

2011-06-02 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Guido Hecken wrote:

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Ralf Mardorf [mailto:ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Juni 2011 10:28

An: Debian-User
Betreff: Backup script

Hi :)

I'm writing a script to backup the 4 Linux installs and the 
MBRs on my machine.


Is there a way to copy all 4 Linux by running one of those installs?

With a lack of knowledge I would backup the 3 Linux that 
aren't running, by the running Linux and than boot another 
Linux install, to backup the previously running Linux.


Hi,
you might have a look at rear - Relax and Recover as a disaster recovery 
solution.



He means: http://rear.sourceforge.net/


You could run rear as a cronjob on each of your 4 installs and integrate 3rd party 
standard backup tools or scripts into rear as modules, to do regular file- or sector based 
backups of the three other offline installed systems.
Of course you have to deal with open files such as running databases on the installed system, that 
is running, while you back the whole machine.





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Re: Backup script

2011-06-01 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Ralf Mardorf wrote:

Hi :)

I'm writing a script to backup the 4 Linux installs and the MBRs on my
machine.

Is there a way to copy all 4 Linux by running one of those installs?

With a lack of knowledge I would backup the 3 Linux that aren't running,
by the running Linux and than boot another Linux install, to backup the
previously running Linux.



http://www.mondorescue.org/

Hugo


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Re: Create USB multiboot??

2011-05-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

co...@esid.gecgr.co.cu wrote:

Hi

It is possible that in a memory usb they can put on several systems
operative (for ISOs or another form) to install some PC, that is to say
that can
to have, Ubuntu, windows xp and that when beginning for usb me of the
possibility to choose which operating system wants to install??



http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/SGD_Howto_make#How_to_make_a_Super_Grub_Disk_USB.



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Re: System broken after kernel upgrade - explanation?

2011-05-22 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Wolodja Wentland wrote:

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 15:08 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:

I can only suppose that some package which was also upgraded today
(there were various libraries) has affected both kernels. I would put in
a bug report but I have no idea where the problem could lie.

Any suggestions?


A list of the packages that were upgraded would help tremendously, but my gut
feeling says udev. There were a couple of RC bugs against udev 169 (check the
BTS) so it would be interesting to know which version you have installed.


Upgraded Sid to udev 170-1 and linux-image-2.6.39-1-amd64.
Runs fine
listbugs found no errors...

Hugo


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Re: viewing deb files in m-c

2011-05-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Brian wrote:

On Fri 20 May 2011 at 10:43:53 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:


  I hope I am not the only one having trouble viewing deb
files in m-c. The error messages all relate to parsing..I guess
related to a python or perl update ???


You're not.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=626171




I am still using 2:4.6.2~git20080311-4 and I get the same error

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Re: Console Messed Up for Nvidia Drivers

2011-05-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Fri, 20 May 2011 14:22:42 +0300, David Baron wrote:


This is a very long-standing problem for both the proprietary and Debian
Nvidia drivers, legacy and current: When switching out of X (i.e.
control/alt/F1), the console font is quite large and the lower half of
each line appears doubled under the line. (In contrast, Nouveau gives a
small screen font.)


It does not happen here. 

I'm with lenny and using both, the nvidia and nv drivers. In GRUB 
(legacy) I have appended at the kernel line vga=0x31A and fonts under 
tty console are quite good.
 


snip

Does not happen here either. I use Sid and the nvidia binary driver + 
kernel line vga=71.


Hugo


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Re: NVIDIA cards stopped working with recent testing updates

2011-05-15 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Russell L. Carter wrote:

Hi Curt,

On 05/14/2011 07:00 PM, Curt Howland wrote:

I've found that I have to re-install the binary Nvidia driver often
after updates, when the X system gets updated, due to changes to
simlinks.

If you're using the Nvidia binary driver, try reinstalling it.


I did that.  


snip

The current Nvidia binary driver is 270.41.06, you tried reinstalling 
that one?


Hugo


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Re: Boot errors

2011-05-08 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Frank McCormick wrote:

I am still seeing a bunch of errors related to udev when I boot
this machine running Sid up-to-date.
The errors come from udev but are not logged anywhere.
I suspect they are related to the situation weeks ago
when an update created a situation which needed a new
directory off the root which didn't yet exist. The solution (which I
implemented) was to delete the /run directory in the root.

Does anyone else see these udev errors? They don't seem
to affect the operation of Sid.






I see them.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=624145

Hgo


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Re: who creates 'dev/mapper/vgHDB-HDB9'?

2011-05-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Martin wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com schrieb:

Hi,

I have installed lvm2 and created pv's, vg's and lv's. E.g.:


(...)


I have a question: who creates exactly those /dev/ entries?

The reason I ask is that sometimes with mondorescue they are not created 
and I cnnot access the lv's.




I don't know mondorescue. To access lv from my rescue system (grml) I
use the following commands:
/sbin/vgscan
/sbin/vgchange -ay

This creates the /dev/mapper/ entries - and is what is done in debian's
lvm2 init script.



That's exactly what the mondorescue init script does but in some cases 
this does not create the /dev/mapper/ entries. I'd sure like to know 
why. I have a hunch that it is not able to create the lockfile.


Hugo


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