getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

[Steve Kleene]

My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail server.  I
have no choice in the matter.

My employer uses Microsoft Exchange/Outlook for mail.  They have an Outlook
Web App (OWA) that I can access from Firefox, but as far as I can tell you
cannot save a file to the local disk with OWA.  That makes OWA pretty
useless.  The documentation, if it can be believed, says that I can access
Outlook with POP3 and IMAP4 programs including Thunderbird.

If any of you have experience and/or advice with this problem, I'd be
grateful to hear it.

how to automatically reload a firefox page

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:55:42 -0400, I wrote:

>> I'm looking for an automated way to have firefox-esr reload its window at
>> regular intervals.  There's a site to which I like to stay connected that
>> logs me off if the window is inactive for long.

On Tue Jul 25 05:54:22 2017, Fungi4All  replied:

> How about making a local web page reloadpage.html where you include the
> command to reload evert 234 seconds
> 
> and make a table which includes the webpage you want to stay active on within
> your local page.

and on Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:55:23 +0200, Jochen Spieker  added:

> You need an iframe:
>
> https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_iframe.asp

I hadn't known about inline frames, but this works well at the site I want to
refresh.  Tab Mix Plus has also worked, so now I have two options for
reloading.  Thanks again to everyone for the good ideas.

Re: how to automatically reload a firefox page

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:55:42 -0400, I wrote:

>> I'm looking for an automated way to have firefox-esr reload its window at
>> regular intervals.  There's a site to which I like to stay connected that
>> logs me off if the window is inactive for long.

On Tue Jul 25 05:54:22 2017, Fungi4All  replied:

> How about making a local web page reloadpage.html where you include the
> command to reload evert 234 seconds
> 
> and make a table which includes the webpage you want to stay active on within
> your local page.

Thanks for the nice idea, but I haven't quite succeeded in executing it.  The
"refresh" line does indeed get the base page to reload automatically.  But
all I've been able to put into a table is a link to the URL I really want to
be refreshed.  I have to click on that link to bring up the page.  What I
need is for the base page to actually display the contents of the second page
without and clicks (e.g. by calling it up while still staying on the base
page, which gets reloaded).

Re: how to automatically reload a firefox page

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:55:42 -0400, I wrote:

>> I'm looking for an automated way to have firefox-esr reload its window at
>> regular intervals.  There's a site to which I like to stay connected that
>> logs me off if the window is inactive for long.

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 17:20:00 +0200, Jan  replied:

> The add-on Tab Mix Plus has an option under Menu to add "Reload every ..." to
> the tab's context menu. The add-on may be overkill if you just want that
> reload option, but I do know it works.

Thanks.  I have this working now.  I added Tab Mix Plus 0.5.0.3 and checked
"Reload Tab Every" in both the Tab Context Menu and the Main Context Menu.
Re adding Tab Mix Plus, I agreed to disable the ReloadEvery plugin (although
ReloadEvery's settings still show under about:config).

During installation, a message said, "Firefox 57 drops support for all legacy
add-ons include Tab Mix Plus.  From Firefox 57 onwards, Firefox will not
install Tab Mix Plus.  It is currently unclear when Tab Mix Plus as a
WebExtension will be ready."  I'll worry about that when it happens.

Thanks again.

how to automatically reload a firefox page

[Steve Kleene]

I'm looking for an automated way to have firefox-esr reload its window at
regular intervals.  There's a site to which I like to stay connected that
logs me off if the window is inactive for long.

For the past few years I've been using the ReloadEvery plugin for this.  With
the upgrade to firefox-esr 52, though, this stopped working, probably as
explained here:

  https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2015/10/08/npapi-plugins-in-firefox/

I tried the newest ReloadEvery (v45) available online, but it still doesn't
work.  Before ReloadEvery, I used to set up a shell command that would
periodically do this:

  /usr/bin/iceweasel -remote openurl\([URL]\)

The -remote call also no longer works.  Any other ideas on how to do this?
Thanks.

Re: metamail now misbehaving

[Steve Kleene]

On, Sun, 9 Jul 2017 14:12:07 -0400, I wrote:

>> I run Wheezy with fvwm (window manager).  I prefer to use the command line
>> when possible, and for mail I have bsd-mailx with sendmail.  To read e-mails
>> sent as HTML or base64, I use metamail (which was last distributed with Etch,
>> I think), as follows:
>> ...
>> Coincindent with my upgrade to firefox-esr 52, metamail no longer quite
>> works.  If no firefox window is up, it does succeed.  But if (as usual) a
>> firefox window already exists, it opens a new firefox tab with the error
>> "Firefox can't find the file at /tmp/Mu6MRTf".  And there is in fact no such
>> tmp file.

On, Mon, 10 Jul 2017 04:01:28 +0200 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C1ngel?= 
 replied:

> I suspect metamail launches the browser and, after the launched program
> is closed, automatically deletes the temporary file.
> The problem is that when a window already exists, control is transfered
> to that window, and the original program is closed, thus leading to a
> race condition between the deletion of the temporary file and its
> loading by the firefox process.
>
> First option would be looking for a way not to have metamail remove the
> file, leaving the file to be cleaned up later (you may want to dedicate
> a subfolder for metamail temp files).
>
> Another option would be to replace the call to /usr/bin/iceweasel with a
> wrapper that launches iceweasel and waits a few seconds, which would
> hopefully make the browser win the race. It's not a particularly elegant
> solution (the race is still there, after all), but is probably good
> enough for you.

A clever idea.  Option 2 was quick and successful.  In ~/.mailcap, I changed

text/html; /usr/bin/iceweasel '%s'; description=HTML Text; test=test -n 
"$DISPLAY";  nametemplate=%s.html

to

text/html; /usr/bin/iceweasel '%s'\; sleep 1; description=HTML Text; test=test 
-n "$DISPLAY";  nametemplate=%s.html

and now the tmp file hangs around long enough.

Thanks also to David Wright for the suggestions on setting up mutt.  I may
get to that, since bsd-mailx + metamail still has some real limitations.

metamail now misbehaving

[Steve Kleene]

I run Wheezy with fvwm (window manager).  I prefer to use the command line
when possible, and for mail I have bsd-mailx with sendmail.  To read e-mails
sent as HTML or base64, I use metamail (which was last distributed with Etch,
I think), as follows:

  1. I save the e-mail to a file "mailfile".
  2. I call "metamail mailfile".
  3. Metamail silently extracts the HTML and saves it as, let's say, 
/tmp/Mu6MRTf.
  4. It calls "/usr/bin/iceweasel /tmp/MD7U6wY", which then displays the HTML.

Coincindent with my upgrade to firefox-esr 52, metamail no longer quite
works.  If no firefox window is up, it does succeed.  But if (as usual) a
firefox window already exists, it opens a new firefox tab with the error
"Firefox can't find the file at /tmp/Mu6MRTf".  And there is in fact no such
tmp file.

If I call "metamail -w mailfile", it offers to create /tmp/Mu6MRTf.  If I
approve that, I can then call "firefox-esr /tmp/Mu6MRTf" and see the HTML.  I
checked my backups, and updating firefox-esr caused no changes to
/etc/mailcap, ~/.mailcap, or the various redirects and alternatives for
firefox/iceweasel.

I'd be interested in any ideas on how to get this working again.  At the same
time, I expect that I will be advised give up on metamail.  I think
heirloom-mailx might be closest to what I already have.  To install that,
would I need to uninstall bsd-mailx first?  Can I assume that sendmail (and
sendmail.cf, etc.) will be left undisturbed?  I gather that mailutils and
mutt are other options.  I think mutt brings up its own window, and I'd
prefer to just use the command line for all the plain text e-mails I get.  On
the other hand, a better way to add attachments would be nice.  Currently I
do a lot of manual labor with the headers for those.

Thanks.

nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel

[Steve Kleene]

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 19:12:15 -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote:

> What I'd like to know is how iceweasel broke on the OP's system in the
> first place. I did a standard install of the browser on my 64-bit Wheezy
> system years ago, installed Flash, etc., and it works.  Maybe, it's
> because I don't use or have installed any desktop. Just use a window
> manager, Openbox.

I'm the OP.  I don't know when the feature got turned off, but I also use
just a windowing system (fvwm).  I also wasn't using Tor.

Re: nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel [SOLVED]

[Steve Kleene]

On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 21:13:26 -0500, I wrote:

>> A lot of sites on nytimes.com don't work correctly in my iceweasel, e.g.
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/fact-check.html#/factcheck-109
>>
>> If I click on any of the many "Read more" links, I get nothing.  I don't
>> guess this is flash.  Lots of flash sites work for me, and they ask if I want
>> to allow flash.  The nytimes pages do not.  Other examples:
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/02/17/upshot/scalia-supreme-court-senate-nomination.html#g-detailed-responses
>> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/02/opinion/collins-our-new-year-quiz.html
>>
>> I am running iceweasel 38.6.1 under Wheezy.  Any ideas what format these 
>> pages
>> use or why they are failing?

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:04:18 +0100, Sven Arvidsson  replied:

> You could try starting Iceweasel with -P and create a new profile. If
> it works there, something is wrong in your normal profile.

I moved my ~/.mozilla directory away, called mozilla, and got a new, very
simple profile.  Its prefs.js file was much shorter.  By brute force, I
edited out lines that were only in my old prefs.js file until I found the
responsible line:

user_pref("dom.indexedDB.enabled", false);

When I changed this to "true" in my original prefs.js, the web pages worked
properly.

The newly enabled function, IndexedDB, apparently has some security
shortcomings:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281066023_Some_Potential_Issues_with_the_Security_of_HTML5_IndexedDB

The databases that various servers create are stored in the sqlite files
under my iceweasel profile.  I may clear those out from time to time.

Thanks to everyone who responded.

nytimes pages that fail in iceweasel

[Steve Kleene]

A lot of sites on nytimes.com don't work correctly in my iceweasel, e.g.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/fact-check.html#/factcheck-109

If I click on any of the many "Read more" links, I get nothing.  I don't
guess this is flash.  Lots of flash sites work for me, and they ask if I want
to allow flash.  The nytimes pages do not.  Other examples:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/02/17/upshot/scalia-supreme-court-senate-nomination.html#g-detailed-responses
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/02/opinion/collins-our-new-year-quiz.html

I am running iceweasel 38.6.1 under Wheezy.  Any ideas what format these pages
use or why they are failing?

Thanks.

Re: no response from listmaster

[Steve Kleene]

On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 18:55:54 +, Lee Fuller  wrote:

> Sorry to drag up this old relic, Steve - did your investigation yield
> anything useful?
>
> Mail is a complicated subject so I'm keen to hear about the conclusion of
> issues like this.
>
> On 15 December 2015 at 23:14, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday 15 December 2015 19:29:50 Brian wrote:
> > > Pestering us
> > > appears to have its benefits. Just think, your response might have edged
> > > him towards it. :)
> >
> > To be fair, Brian, it wasn't pestering us that was complained about, it was
> > pestering the listmasters.  "Pestering" us was the right thing to do, and
> > as
> > you say helped the OP solve his problem.
> >
> > Lisi

Yes, the problem has been solved.  I posted as follows and added "[SOLVED]"
to the Subject in the header:

On Mon Dec 14 10:22:25 2015, I wrote:

> I have now been able to resubscribe.  What I did was to stop routing my mail
> through my employer's main router.  I believe that was the source of the
> bounces from improper processing of validation tags.  Dodging that router let
> me succeed in replying to confirm my subscription.
>
> I began relaying through this router ten years ago because a different
> recipient didn't like my originating IP.  If that's now busted again, I'll
> work through it.
>
> Thank you very much to all of you who posted or wrote with helpful and useful
> suggestions.

Re: no response from listmaster

[Steve Kleene]

On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 12:42:23 -0800, Don Armstrong <d...@debian.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Dec 2015, Steve Kleene wrote:
> > My address (sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu) has been unsubscribed from the
> > debian-user mailing list. I understand why.
> [...]
> > Do any of you know of another administrator or ombudsman who might actually
> > respond?
>
> We responded on the 8th and told you to resubscribe; that's all that you
> need to do.

I did get a note from listmaster on the 8th announcing my unsubscription.  It
contained a link that explained why I was unsubscribed but didn't tell me to
resubscribe.  Resubscribing in the usual way was a problem in itself, as I
described elsewhere in this thread.  That's why I was hoping listmaster would
just reinstate my subscription.  In any case, this has now all been solved.
Thanks.

Re: no response from listmaster [SOLVED]

[Steve Kleene]

On 2015-12-13 17:18:32 GMT, I wrote:

> My address (sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu) has been unsubscribed from the
> debian-user mailing list.  I understand why.  I took the address down for a
> few days for reasons that are now irrelevant (but can be related if anyone
> cares).  Because mails from lists.debian.org were bouncing, they unsubscribed
> me.  A note from listmas...@lists.debian.org on Dec 8 notified me of this and
> said, "You are welcome to contact us".  I wrote to that address twice (Dec 8
> and 9).  The mails were not returned to me; I have received no response; and
> I'm still unsubscribed.

I have now been able to resubscribe.  What I did was to stop routing my mail
through my employer's main router.  I believe that was the source of the
bounces from improper processing of validation tags.  Dodging that router let
me succeed in replying to confirm my subscription.

I began relaying through this router ten years ago because a different
recipient didn't like my originating IP.  If that's now busted again, I'll
work through it.

Thank you very much to all of you who posted or wrote with helpful and useful
suggestions.

On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 10:25:15 +0100,  wrote:

> Another thing: don't be impatient with the Debian listmasters. They're
> doing volunteer work. They deserve our appreciation. And if things
> don't work as they should, perhaps offering our hand is better than
> venting our ire.

I agree with all of this.  I have tried hard to just state the facts I know
and not suggest any sort of misbehavior.  I have (sporadically) benefitted
from this group many times over the past nine years, and it's a major reason
I've stuck with Debian.  I have also (less often) contributed a solution or
two when I was able.

Thanks again.

Re: no response from listmaster

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 16:07:40 +0800, Bret Busby  wrote:

> On 14/12/2015, Dan Ritter  wrote:
>
> 
>
> > You have two major choices, neither one of which is what you
> > want to hear.
> >
> > 1. You can subscribe via some other address. GMail, Fastmail,
> > whatever. Let other people handle your mail for you, for money
> > or not.
>
> Why not simply take up that suggestion?
> ...
> So, to me, the simple solution, is to use something like a gmail
> account, for your mailing lists messages.

I have not ruled out that idea.  In theory, the most trivial solution was to
just reinstate my existing subscription, which had been working nicely for
nine years.  It has not been so easy after all.

What I like about my existing setup is that all of my mail gets deposited
locally on my machine.  I can read most (but no longer all) of the text with
a simple "mail" from the command line.  This is the easiest way to read and
archive my mails in the style I've developed and prefer.  If I could have
gmail forwarded to an account on my local machine, that would work well.  If
I'd have to always read it in a browser, I'd be less happy.  I won't take the
time to research alternatives like this unless I can't revive the system I
like.

> I am curious as to why you are apparently defying your employer, and
> running a particular mailserver using your employer's resources,
> against the instructions/wishes of your employer, and, why your
> employer lets you get away with so defying your employer.

I did in fact say that my employer "wishes I didn't run a mail server at
all".  That was really a guess; they have never said that to me.  What they
have done is ask me a couple of times to defend my practice.  I've done that,
and they have never asked me to stop the server.  I've run my own mail
service since I started here in 1985, originally with Bitnet and uucico.  My
employer does explicitly allow personal use of their mail resources as long
as the use is not burdensome or for personal profit.

> And, why can you not use a gmail account (or, a similar, free webmail
> account), for mailing list subscriptions, at least, in the interim?

I may look into that if my preferred solution fails.  I can also just read
the threads at the archives or gmane sites.

Thanks for your helpful suggestions and inquiries.

> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia

no response from listmaster

[Steve Kleene]

My address (sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu) has been unsubscribed from the
debian-user mailing list.  I understand why.  I took the address down for a
few days for reasons that are now irrelevant (but can be related if anyone
cares).  Because mails from lists.debian.org were bouncing, they unsubscribed
me.  A note from listmas...@lists.debian.org on Dec 8 notified me of this and
said, "You are welcome to contact us".  I wrote to that address twice (Dec 8
and 9).  The mails were not returned to me; I have received no response; and
I'm still unsubscribed.

Do any of you know of another administrator or ombudsman who might actually
respond?  Thanks.

Re: no response from listmaster

[Steve Kleene]

References: <loom.20151213t181726-...@post.gmane.org>,
<201512131729.22307.lisi.re...@gmail.com>

> On Sunday 13 December 2015 17:18:32 Steve Kleene wrote:
> > My address (sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu) has been unsubscribed from the
> > debian-user mailing list.  I understand why.  I took the address down for a
> > few days for reasons that are now irrelevant (but can be related if anyone
> > cares).  Because mails from lists.debian.org were bouncing, they
> > unsubscribed me.  A note from listmas...@lists.debian.org on Dec 8 notified
> > me of this and said, "You are welcome to contact us".  I wrote to that
> > address twice (Dec 8 and 9).  The mails were not returned to me; I have
> > received no response; and I'm still unsubscribed.
> >
> > Do any of you know of another administrator or ombudsman who might actually
> > respond?  Thanks.

On Sun Dec 13 12:29:31 2015, Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> replied:

> Why not just resubscribe - much simpler.

Thanks, but that's a whole can of worms I had hoped (in vain) not to reopen.
Last month I did a thread ("problem e-mailing debian groups") on that and was
unable to find a solution.  My e-mails to debian-user@lists.debian.org and
debian-ad...@lists.debian.org DO bounce, apparently because my employer
mishandles sender callback verification.  (Having said that, I don't
understand why no one but lists.debian.org bounces my e-mails.)  My employer
only wants to support Microsoft Outlook or Exchange and wishes I didn't run a
mail server at all.  So I'm on my own.

Since listmas...@lists.debian.org does not bounce my mails, I expected to
work with someone there.  I was hoping someone here might have an idea what
it takes to get their attention, or how to contact someone else who might be
helpful.

Re: no response from listmaster

[Steve Kleene]

On 2015-12-13 20:01:35 GMT, Brian  cityscape.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun 13 Dec 2015 at 18:57:31 +, Steve Kleene wrote:
>
> > > On Sunday 13 December 2015 17:18:32 Steve Kleene wrote:
> > > > My address (skdeb  syrano.acb.uc.edu) has been unsubscribed from the
> > > > debian-user mailing list.  I understand why.  I took the address
down for a
> > > > few days for reasons that are now irrelevant (but can be related if
anyone
> > > > cares).  Because mails from lists.debian.org were bouncing, they
> > > > unsubscribed me.  A note from listmaster  lists.debian.org on
Dec 8 notified
> > > > me of this and said, "You are welcome to contact us".  I wrote to that
> > > > address twice (Dec 8 and 9).  The mails were not returned to me; I have
> > > > received no response; and I'm still unsubscribed.
> > > >
> > > > Do any of you know of another administrator or ombudsman who might
actually
> > > > respond?  Thanks.
> >
> > On Sun Dec 13 12:29:31 2015, Lisi Reisz  gmail.com> replied:
> >
> > > Why not just resubscribe - much simpler.
> >
> > Thanks, but that's a whole can of worms I had hoped (in vain) not to reopen.
> > Last month I did a thread ("problem e-mailing debian groups") on that
and was
> > unable to find a solution.  My e-mails to debian-user 
lists.debian.org and
> > debian-admin  lists.debian.org DO bounce, apparently because my employer
> > mishandles sender callback verification.  (Having said that, I don't
> > understand why no one but lists.debian.org bounces my e-mails.)  My employer
> > only wants to support Microsoft Outlook or Exchange and wishes I didn't
run a
> > mail server at all.  So I'm on my own.
>
> Would you please be clearer here as to your setup.
>
> You are running a mail server anad are using it to send mail.
>
> Does this mail
>
> a) go through one of your employer's mail servers
>
> or
>
> b) do you send mails directly ?

I am running mailto/sendmail from the command line, configured locally by
/etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf.  This file includes:

  DSsmtp.uc.edu

This sets my employer's server smtp.uc.edu as SMART_HOST.  I did not route
through that server until 2006.  At that point an organization across the
street began refusing emails because my IP was seen as dynamic.  I had to
route through smtp.uc.edu to get around that.  I haven't tried lately to go
back to the pre-2006 system.  I do have one machine with a fixed IP.  On my
desk machine I masquerade to the fixed IP, but apparently e-mails from the
desk machine were detected as dynamic IP before the header was even checked.

Thanks for the reply.

problem e-mailing debian groups

[Steve Kleene]

Almost five years ago, I became unable to post questions here by e-mail.  The
e-mail bounces with, for example:

> The following message to  was undeliverable.
> The reason for the problem:
> 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-'5.1.7

Re: problem e-mailing debian groups

[Steve Kleene]

References: ,
<20151113221430.GV4773@geta>, <564683bf.1050...@meetinghouse.net>

>>>On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 19:41:14 + (UTC), I wrote:
>>>
>>> Almost five years ago, I became unable to post questions here by e-mail.
 The
>>> e-mail bounces with, for example:
>>>
>>> > The following message to  was undeliverable.
>>> > The reason for the problem:
>>> > 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-'5.1.7
>>> 

Re: does iceweasel have java plugin?

[Steve Kleene]

On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 23:37:36 +, I wrote:
 I do have Java packages installed (gcj-4.4-jre, sun-java6-bin, etc.).  In
 /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins, I see:

   libjavaplugin.so - /etc/alternatives/iceweasel-javaplugin.so

 which in turn points to:

   /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so

On Wed Oct 10 11:16:52 2012, Michael P. Soulier replied:

 Try symlinking from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ instead. I have plugins there
 that are working fine.

I see I have plugins there too.  I don't really know which ones are called by
iceweasel, but it all seems to work now in any case.  Thanks.


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Re: does iceweasel have java plugin?

[Steve Kleene]

On Thu, 4 Oct 2012, I wrote:

 Using iceweasel, I am failing to connect to my university's VPN website.
 This was working a few years ago.  There's a point when the site tries to
 install Jupiter Network Connect.  All I get at that point now is an error:
 JRE not installed/Java is disabled.

On Fri, 5 Oct 2012, Brad Rogers responded:

 Look for the icedtea plugin and the openjdk jre.

I tried those, and I no longer get the java errors.  Unfortunately, VPN still
doesn't finish, but that looks like a different problem.  Thanks.


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does iceweasel have java plugin?

[Steve Kleene]

Using iceweasel, I am failing to connect to my university's VPN website.
This was working a few years ago.  There's a point when the site tries to
install Jupiter Network Connect.  All I get at that point now is an error:
JRE not installed/Java is disabled.

I do have Java packages installed (gcj-4.4-jre, sun-java6-bin, etc.).  In
/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins, I see:

  libjavaplugin.so - /etc/alternatives/iceweasel-javaplugin.so

which in turn points to:

  /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so

However, if I do about:plugins in iceweasel, it lists nothing for java or
libnpjp2.  I thought those should be displayed with about:plugins.  The
system is up-to-date Wheezy, with iceweasel 10.0.7esr-2.

So can the browser use java/JRE or not?  And if not, how can I fix that?

Thanks.


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does iceweasel have java plugin?

[Steve Kleene]

Using iceweasel, I am failing to connect to my university's VPN website.
This was working a few years ago.  There's a point when the site tries to
install Jupiter Network Connect.  All I get at that point now is an error:
JRE not installed/Java is disabled.

I do have Java packages installed (gcj-4.4-jre, sun-java6-bin, etc.).  In
/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins, I see:

  libjavaplugin.so - /etc/alternatives/iceweasel-javaplugin.so

which in turn points to:

  /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so

However, if I do about:plugins in iceweasel, it lists nothing for java or
libnpjp2.  I thought those should be displayed with about:plugins.  The
system is up-to-date Wheezy, with iceweasel 10.0.7esr-2.

So can the browser use java/JRE or not?  And if not, how can I fix that?

Thanks.


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Re: print jobs to parallel printer now hang

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon 02 Apr 2012 at 01:44:00 +, I wrote:

 I tried downloading the packages manually and using dpkg -i, but the
 chain of dependencies was getting too scary.

On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 11:40:51 +0100, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk replied:

 ... 'dpkg -i cups-filters_1.0.11-1_i386.deb' ...

That succeeded easily and fixed the problem.  My problem had come while
trying to install all of cups, not just cups-filters.

Thanks.


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print jobs to parallel printer now hang

[Steve Kleene]

I'm running testing (Wheezy).  A couple of weeks ago a problem started with
printing to my parallel printer (HP LaserJet 5MP).

This test with a PostScript file succeeds:
  cat test.ps /dev/lp0
so the printer itself isn't busted.

But this fails:
  lpr -P HP_LaserJet_5MP -o InputSlot=BypassTray -o PageSize=Letter \
   -o Duplex=None test.ps

where HP_LaserJet_5MP is the name CUPS has for the printer.  I have tried
deleting and redefining (several ways) the printer at localhost:631, and I
have gone so far as to try this:

  apt-get purge cups cups-bsd
  apt-get install cups cups-bsd

and then define a printer.  All of these have failed.

Here are the symptoms of failure.  The printer's lights show it is receiving
the job, but it doesn't print.  At the CUPS interface, the Job State says
processing since   The Printer Status is Processing.  The process
list shows a process that hangs (keeping the fans working hard):

F   UID   PID  PPID PRI  NIVSZ   RSS WCHAN  STAT TTYTIME COMMAND
4 7  8190  8014  20   0   5916  1140 -  R?  0:58 \
  parallel:/dev/lp0 2 steve test.ps 1 Duplex=None finishings=3 \
  InputSlot=BypassTray number-up=1 PageSize=Letter \
  job-uuid=urn:uuid:0f0b7d42-d03a-3465-5812-fea113f649b4 \
  job-originating-host-name=localhost time-at-creation=106577 \
  time-at-processing=106577

If I cancel the print job, the job is deleted from the list, but the printer
Status is still Processing and process 8190 hangs around.  The calling
process (8014) is /usr/sbin/cupsd -C /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.

Any ideas how to fix this?  Thanks.


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Re: print jobs to parallel printer now hang

[Steve Kleene]

On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 19:18:23 +, I wrote:

 I'm running testing (Wheezy).  A couple of weeks ago a problem
 started with printing to my parallel printer (HP LaserJet 5MP).

On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 21:51:44 +0100, richard rich...@g8jvm.com replied:

 there has been some problems with cups, which seems no to be cleared in the
 last update from unstable ... quite possible the behaviour you are seeing
 is related.
 HTH

That does help to know.  I guess I'll wait a bit to see if it gets fixed.
Otherwise I might need to undo recent cups-related upgrades, of which there
have been about 12.  For now at least I can send PostScript straight to
/dev/lp0.  Thanks.


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Re: print jobs to parallel printer now hang

[Steve Kleene]

On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 19:18:23 +, I wrote:

 I'm running testing (Wheezy).  A couple of weeks ago a problem
 started with printing to my parallel printer (HP LaserJet 5MP).

On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:01:22 +0100, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk replied:

 Read the bugs for cups-filters and decide whether installing the version
 in unstable is worth installing.

The bugs do look similar, but I'm having trouble installing the packages from
unstable.  I always thought the way to go was (e.g.)

  apt-get -t unstable install cups-filters

but this gives

  E: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a \
   release is not available in the sources

Sid instead of unstable also fails.  I tried downloading the packages
manually and using dpkg -i, but the chain of dependencies was getting too
scary.


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losing USB whenever I reboot host

[Steve Kleene]

I'm running a virtualbox client (Windows XP) on a host running Linux testing
(Wheezy).  Vbox is 4.1.6_Debian r74727 with guest additions and extension
pack 74713.  USB always works from the host.  USB works from the guest only
after a fresh fresh reinstall of virtualbox (plus virtualbox-dkms and
virtualbox-qt).  If I then reboot the host, USB no longer works from the
guest.

I've compared most of the several hundred related files in both the working
and non-working states and found no obvious explanation.  The biggest clue is
from ~/.VirtualBox/VBoxSVC.log.  Here are the differences:

when USB works
  00:00:00.125 nspr-2   Successfully initialised host USB using sysfs

when USB fails
  00:00:00.170 nspr-2   Failed to initialise host USB using USBFS
  00:00:01.685 nspr-2   WARNING [COM]: aRC=NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005)
aIID={dab4a2b8-c735-4f08-94fc-9bec
  [and 20 more similar WARNING lines]

So it appears that initializing USB can be attempted using USBFS (which
fails), or using sysfs (which succeeds).  The one that succeeds is used after
a fresh install; the one that fails is used after I've booted the host.

I have a second computer with (supposedly) the same installation.  USB always
works there (and tries sysfs), even after rebooting the host.

I'm not sure just what this means or how to fix it, but I'd welcome
suggestions.  I posted this to the forum at virtualbox.org and got no
replies.  Thanks.


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Re: where did gmplayer go?

[Steve Kleene]

On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 01:34:52 + (UTC), I wrote:
 Until recently, there was a file /usr/bin/gmplayer that was just a link to
 /usr/bin/mplayer.

On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:30:42 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 gmplayer and mplayer are different binaries.

From /usr/bin in a recent backup:

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root7 Jun 18  2011 gmplayer - mplayer

Looks like they're the same binary to me (gmplayer being just a link to
mplayer).  Unless you consider a link to be a separate binary in itself.


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where did gmplayer go?

[Steve Kleene]

I just let my Wheezy system upgrade mplayer, and now I can't get a skin for
the player.  (The skin is a separate window that has, among other things, a
slider that lets you jump to a time of your choice while playing.)  In the
past, mplayer came with a link called gmplayer.  Calling gmplayer brought up
a skin.  The latest manual still shows this, as well as a -skin option that
also fails.  dpkg.log shows the upgrade as follows:

upgrade mplayer 3:1.0~rc4+svn20111024-0.0 3:1.0~rc4+svn20111213-0.0

That upgrade also deleted mplayer-skin-blue (the default skin I had been
using).  Putting that back didn't help.  I then wanted to reinstate the older
mplayer package but couldn't find an i386 version (except as source) in my
apt archive, at debian, or at debian-multimedia.  So I'm out of ideas.

Does anyone know why the skin option vanished?  Is it likely to return to the
distribution?  I know there are other players, but I'd prefer to stick with
the mplayer/mencoder system.

Thanks.


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Re: where did gmplayer go?

[Steve Kleene]

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:24:01 + (UTC), I wrote:

 I just let my Wheezy system upgrade mplayer, and now I can't get a skin for
 the player.  ... Does anyone know why the skin option vanished?

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:53:34 -0500, George S replied:

 On the dmo-discussion mailing list the new policy towards NOT guilding the
 GUI was discussed recently. ...
 We have a lot of fronted for various desktop (KDE or GNOME).
 So you might want to try specifically installing one of the frontends.

I don't run KDE or GNOME, just an X manager and a command line.  I'll have to
figure out whether smplayer or some other front end will work in this
situation.  I can also try mplayer from debian.org instead of from debian-
multimedia.  Anyway, thanks for explaining what has happened.

Someone might want to update the manual, which still lists gmplayer.


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Re: where did gmplayer go? [SOLVED]

[Steve Kleene]

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:24:01 + (UTC), I wrote:

 I just let my Wheezy system upgrade mplayer, and now I can't get a skin for
 the player.  ... Does anyone know why the skin option vanished?

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:53:34 -0500, George S replied:

 On the dmo-discussion mailing list the new policy towards NOT guilding the
 GUI was discussed recently. ...
 We have a lot of fronted for various desktop (KDE or GNOME).
 So you might want to try specifically installing one of the frontends.

I just installed smplayer, and it seems to work as well as if not better than
gmplayer.


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Re: where did gmplayer go?

[Steve Kleene]

On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 07:39:42 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:

 Where did gmplayer go?
 No where - it never existed (which would make finding it difficult).

Until recently, there was a file /usr/bin/gmplayer that was just a link to
/usr/bin/mplayer.  That's what I was referring to.  If the calling command
was gmplayer, it brought up a skin from /usr/share/mplayer/skins.

 I assume you're referring to gnome-mplayer which is the GTK interface
 for mplayer.  It's still there in all Debian releases.

I do see that I have gnome-mplayer, and it does work as a front end.  But I
don't believe that gmplayer called gnome-mplayer.  Gnome-mplayer doesn't seem
to care that /usr/share/mplayer/skins no longer exists.

 TIP: use the excellent debian-multimedia(DM) repository ...

I have quite a few of their packages, including mplayer.  Thanks.


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what's with pulseaudio

[Steve Kleene]

Sometime in the last month or two a regular upgrade of my Wheezy systems
caused them to start running /usr/bin/pulseaudio.  Related directories popped
up, including:

  /.pulse
  ~/.pulse
  /tmp/pulse-tHdn2FVycDvX (e.g.)

as well as these files:

  /etc/rc3.d/S02pulseaudio
  /.pulse-cookie
  ~/.pulse-cookie

Did pulseaudio replace some other audio system?  If I shut it down will I
have no sound?  (I'll try this if no one happens to know the answer.)   And
what's in these .pulse-cookie files?  I'm leery of anything with cookie in
its name.

Thanks.


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Re: what's with pulseaudio

[Steve Kleene]

At Thu, 1 Dec 2011 14:32:03 + (UTC), I wrote:

 Did pulseaudio replace some other audio system?  If I shut it down will I
 have no sound?

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 08:00:29 -0800, Kelly Clowers replied:

 You should check the reverse depends on PA to see what installed it.

There were 32 reverse dependencies, including one I recognized.  Mplayer
plays some videos in iceweasel.

 And what's in these .pulse-cookie files?  I'm leery of anything with
 cookie in its name.

 Uh, that is odd, but ok. Do you also worry about the X11 cookie?

I am not aware of an X11 file here that meets the stated criterion (with
cookie in its name).  I do at the moment have /tmp/serverauth.Jx9TgHJbS8
and don't worry about that.  It may as you say be odd, but I still associate
cookie with clandestine attempts to track my purchases and inundate me with
follow-up advertising.  This is why, for example, I have ~/.macromedia linked
to /dev/null.  I gather that ~/.pulse-cookie is something else.


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Re: what's with pulseaudio

[Steve Kleene]

On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:32:03 +, I wrote:

 Sometime in the last month or two a regular upgrade of my Wheezy systems
 caused them to start running /usr/bin/pulseaudio.

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 18:58:39 + (UTC), Camaleón replied:

 Yes, it is a requirement at least for the gnome-core metapackage. For
 others DE I can't tell.

I don't use gnome but do have it all installed.

 And what's in these .pulse-cookie files?  I'm leery of anything with
 cookie in its name.

 Hum... man 5 pulse-client.conf says:

 ***
 cookie-file= Specify the path to the PulseAudio authentication cookie.
 Defaults to ~/.pulse-cookie.
 ***

That's reassuring.  I guess I'll leave everything as it stands.  Thanks.


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Re: virtualbox just became slow (SOLVED)

[Steve Kleene]

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 12:54:11 + (UTC), I wrote

 I've been happily running a virtualbox Windows XP machine (VM) on a Wheezy
 host for eight months.  However, the VM just became pathologically slow.
 For example, if I boot the VM, call Photoshop 6, and open a small JPG, it
 all works but takes several minutes.  During much of this time the XP Task
 Manager pins at 100% CPU usage, and the host's cooling fans are revving
 hard.  If I then ask to print the JPG, Photoshop (eventually) declares
 There is not enough memory for this operation.

This has apparently been fixed by deleting a network LaserJet printer defined
as this in XP:

  http://192.168.1.2:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

In fact the host had been assigned a different IP (192.168.1.3).  I have
created a printer with that address and everything's fine.

This is aggravating because I've known of this problem for a long time
(although this seemed worse than usual).  The first thing I did was to check
the printer URL, but I must have failed to read it carefully enough.

Anytime I boot or there's a power outage, I have to go through this if our
home router (Netgear Wireless-N 150 router WNR1000 v2) hands over a new IP.
I haven't found a way to have it always assign the same IP.  Maybe booting
the Debian host as a fixed IP would do it, or maybe the router would hand out
that same IP to some second device, creating a conflict.

Anyway thanks to Scott Ferguson for leading me to look into the network as
the source of the problem.


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Re: virtualbox just became slow (SOLVED)

[Steve Kleene]

On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:34:28 + (UTC), I wrote:

 Anytime I boot or there's a power outage, I have to go through this if
 our home router (Netgear Wireless-N 150 router WNR1000 v2) hands over
 a new IP.

On Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:20:33 +, Brad Rogers replied:

 I have a different model of router (still a Netgear, though) which
 allows the allocation of reserved IP addresses.  Look for something like
 LAN IP Setup, in which it should be possible to add reserved
 addresses.  There you simply enter the MAC address and a device name then
 allocate the desired IP address.  This should avoid you having to juggle
 stuff after every power failure or reboot.

Thanks.  I just did this on the router under LAN Setup / Address Reservation.
Along the way I was reminded why it took me so long.  A member of this
household had changed the router password and then lost it.  If this group
has the ability to tell me where that scrap of paper is, I'd rather not know
about it.  So we looked harder and eventually found it ourselves, thus
avoiding the need to reset all router settings to defaults.

Thanks again.


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Re: virtualbox just became slow

[Steve Kleene]

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 12:54:11 + (UTC), I wrote:

 I've been happily running a virtualbox Windows XP machine (VM) on a Wheezy
 host for eight months.  However, the VM just became pathologically slow.  For
 example, if I boot the VM, call Photoshop 6, and open a small JPG, it all
 works but takes several minutes.  During much of this time the XP Task
 Manager pins at 100% CPU usage,

On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:22:14 +1100, Scott Ferguson replied:

 What process?

When CPU usage gets to ~100%, the process that hogs all remaining memory is
Photoshop or Illustrator, whichever I'm testing.  The next larger processes
are there on the healthy machine too (svchost.exe 16 MB, explorer.exe 17 MB).

 Debian/VirtualBox - check dmesg[*1] and VirtualBox log for relevant
 messages. The VirtualBox log is accessible via the GUI Manager =
 Machine = Show Log. You don't say what sort of VirtualBox disk system
 you use.

I haven't had a chance to check this yet but will.

 Windoof - how much free space does your virtual drive have, when did you
 last defrag, what filesystem, how big is the Windoof swap, have you put
 a sniffer on the virtual NIC, what does Windoof show as chewing the most
 resources?

Sorry, I meant to mention that there's 8 GB of free disk space on c:.  I have
never defragged it.  I almost never connect to the Internet with it.

 One suggestion is to export (as an appliance) one of the slow
 VirtualMachines from your slow host and import it into your faster host
 - then compare apples with apples. I'd also suggest you temporarily
 disable the virtual NIC to rule out Windoof network activity as the problem.

Good idea.  I just brought up the VM (xpvm.vdi + my two home vbox
directories) from my sick installation on the other host, and it ran OK
there.  (I had to delete a network printer that it would not have found on
the other host; I can display the printer's properties on the sick machine.)
So I don't believe the problem is in the VM itself.  I'm not sure how to
disable the NIC (unless just yanking the ethernet cable will suffice).

I'll check the logs tonight.  Thanks.


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Re: virtualbox just became slow

[Steve Kleene]

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 07:37:49 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 11/11/11 00:41, Steve Kleene wrote:
 On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 12:54:11 + (UTC), I wrote:

 I've been happily running a virtualbox Windows XP machine (VM) on a
 Wheezy host for eight months.  However, the VM just became
 pathologically slow.  For example, if I boot the VM, call Photoshop 6,
 and open a small JPG, it all works but takes several minutes.  During
 much of this time the XP Task Manager pins at 100% CPU usage,

 On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:22:14 +1100, Scott Ferguson replied:
 Debian/VirtualBox - check dmesg[*1]

dmesg shows these:
[   10.093878] vboxdrv: Found 2 processor cores.
[   10.094047] vboxdrv: fAsync=0 offMin=0x80e offMax=0x1b19
[   10.094144] vboxdrv: TSC mode is 'synchronous', kernel timer mode is 
'normal'.
[   10.094149] vboxdrv: Successfully loaded version 4.1.2_Debian\
 (interface 0x0019).
[   10.419123] vboxpci: IOMMU not found (not registered)

 and VirtualBox log for
 relevant messages. ... You don't say what sort of
 VirtualBox disk system you use.

It's normal format (VDI), dynamically allocated.  VBox.log shows these
errors:

00:00:01.983 ERROR [COM]: aRC=VBOX_E_IPRT_ERROR (0x80bb0005)\
  aIID={09eed313-cd56-4d06-bd56-fac0f716b5dd} aComponent={Display}\
  aText={Could not take a screenshot (VERR_NOT_SUPPORTED)}, preserve=false
00:00:02.016 ERROR [COM]: aRC=VBOX_E_IPRT_ERROR (0x80bb0005)\
  aIID={09eed313-cd56-4d06-bd56-fac0f716b5dd} aComponent={Display}\
  aText={Could not take a screenshot (VERR_NOT_SUPPORTED)}, preserve=false
00:00:12.936 PATM: Stop monitoring IDT handler pages at 812a9bec - invalid\
  write 812a9880-812a9884 (this is not a fatal error)
00:00:12.940 PATM: Stop monitoring IDT handler pages at 812a94a4 - invalid\
  write 812a9770-812a9771 (this is not a fatal error)

 Sorry, I meant to mention that there's 8 GB of free disk space on c:.
 I have never defragged it.

Oh?
So every read involves a game of hide and seek in the Pacific Ocean? :-)

I did defrag tonight and it didn't help the problem.

 ... I'd also suggest you
 temporarily disable the virtual NIC to rule out Windoof network
 activity as the problem.

This had a definite effect.  With the virtual NIC (attached to NAT), it took
Photoshop 50-55 sec to load.  Without the NIC, it took 12 sec.  This was
reproducible.  In either case trying to print a 95KB JPG from Photoshop
gave this:

Cannot print.  Initialization error.  The error code is 10.

The IDT error handler errors did not show up when the NIC was disabled.
This all used to work with NAT.  Any ideas how to get it back?

 (or move to a proper OS like Debian)

That is my host OS.  It may not be obvious, but I've be using various *IX
since 1982 and learned those long before I learned DOS.  My hosts are all
Debian.  I still need some access to Windows because of co-workers who use
it.


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virtualbox just became slow

[Steve Kleene]

I've been happily running a virtualbox Windows XP machine (VM) on a Wheezy
host for eight months.  However, the VM just became pathologically slow.  For
example, if I boot the VM, call Photoshop 6, and open a small JPG, it all
works but takes several minutes.  During much of this time the XP Task
Manager pins at 100% CPU usage, and the host's cooling fans are revving hard.
If I then ask to print the JPG, Photoshop (eventually) declares There is not
enough memory for this operation.  When the VM is idle, it shows about 5%
CPU usage and I see no unexpected memory hogs running.  The Debian host runs
fine.

This disease roughly coincides with my upgrade from virtualbox 4.1.2 to
4.1.4, including the guest additions and extension pack.  So I uninstalled
4.1.4 and put back 4.1.2 from snapshot.debian.org, together with its guest
additions and extension pack.  I also put back a copy of the VM (xpvm.vdi)
and home vbox directories that I had saved on June 18th when everything was
fine.  (I saved these as Linux files, not as a snapshot.  I have successfully
started from them before).  Finally I rebooted the host too.  None of this
solved the problem.

The host is a  Pentium 4 3.0 GHz with 2 GB of memory.  The VM has the
recommended 192 MB of memory.  This all worked fine until I ran apt-get
upgrade (including virtualbox) four days ago.  I have a newer Wheezy machine
(i5 3.2 GHz + 4 GB) that is running about the same VM (also 192 MB) under
virtualbox 4.1.4 with no problem.

Any ideas how to identify the source of this slowness?  Thanks.


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bad downloads during apt-get upgrade

[Steve Kleene]

On just one of my three Wheezy machines, I often get bad downloads when I run
apt-get upgrade.  This started abruptly seven weeks ago.  The general form of
the apt-get error includes this:

  dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/[package].deb (--unpack):
   short read on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb during [package]

Then I find that dd can't read all of the cached deb file.  In one case,
ls -l said the file was 5.8 MB, but

dd /var/cache/apt/archives/[package].deb /dev/null
  dd: reading `standard input': Input/output error
  ...
  2854912 bytes (2.9 MB) copied, 22.261 s, 128 kB/s

If I remove the bad deb file and call apt-get to reinstall that package,
everything runs to completion.  So I have been able to keep the system
updated.

I thought the unreadable file might indicate one or more bad blocks on the
disk.  A recent boot ran fsck (as it does every 25 boots), and no filesystem
errors were found.

What might be giving rise to these truncated deb-file downloads?  How might I
fix the problem?

Thanks.


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Re: bad downloads during apt-get upgrade

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:44:11 + (UTC), I wrote:
 ... I often get bad downloads when I run apt-get upgrade.
 ...
 dd /var/cache/apt/archives/[package].deb /dev/null
   dd: reading `standard input': Input/output error

On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:49:24 -0600, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com replied:

 That isn't a good error message.  I think your disk is failing.
 Review your /var/log/syslog and look for error messages there.  I
 expect you will see other errors logged there.

I was afraid of that.  For what it's worth, there is nothing suspicious in
syslog.  Mostly it's just a list of all the e-mails sent and received.  I do
keep this machine very well backed up.

 You didn't say what type of media you are using.  Spinning disk?  SSD?
 Other?

It's an old spinning disk (Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 6K040L0 40GB ATA/133
HDD).  The date on it is 10/31/03.  It's sufficient for this machine's
purpose.

 Is your disk S.M.A.R.T. capable?  Install 'smartmontools'.  Then run
 selftests against the disk.  SMART hasn't be a great predictor of
 failure for me but it has been a good confirmation of it.

  # smartctl -H /dev/sda

SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

  # smartctl -a /dev/sda

long output, including

Warning: ATA error count 487 inconsistent with error log pointer 5
ATA Error Count: 487 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
Error 487 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 14910 hours (621 days + 6 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown
state.
...
  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 01 af 49 c3 e2  Error: UNC 1 sectors at LBA = 0x02c349af = 46352815

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --    
  c8 00 08 af 49 c3 e2 08  19d+15:22:35.264  READ DMA
  f8 00 00 00 00 00 e0 08  19d+15:22:35.248  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS
  ec 00 00 00 00 00 a0 0a  19d+15:22:35.248  IDENTIFY DEVICE
  ef 03 41 00 00 00 a0 0a  19d+15:22:35.232  SET FEATURES [Set transfer mode]
  f8 00 00 00 00 00 e0 08  19d+15:22:35.232  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS

  # smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda

Num  Test_DescriptionStatus  Remaining  LifeTime(hours) 
LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline   Completed: read failure   60% 15032
46769249

I'm not sure how to interpret all of that output, but it looks bad.  Thanks
for your help.


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Re: bad downloads during apt-get upgrade

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:21:23 -0600, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:

 Really?  I thought *I* wrote that.  Wait, I did.  :-) I think you mail
 attribution processing isn't configured right.

I don't understand this.  My copy of my own post (as received in my e-mail
of posts to debian-user) had this line just above the text shown above:

 On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:49:24 -0600, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com replied:

In any case, thanks to both respondents for your help in alerting me to the
coming end-time (for one disk anyway).


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Re: setting up a static IP address

[Steve Kleene]

On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 03:32:42 -0500, Selim T. Erdogan wrote:

 FYI, you can use Network Manager and /etc/network/interfaces together w/o
 problems. ...

Thanks.  I'll look into this when I have some time.

 (I also have dns-nameservers lines in my eth0 stanza in /e/n/i.
 IIRC, when I didn't, using dynamic wireless connections kept clobbering
 the static DNS entries in /etc/resolv.conf.)

That's interesting, because on one my machines resolv.conf gets nulled out
during the boot process.  I hacked around that by putting it back via
/etc/rc.local.  I'll try the better solution you suggest.


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setting up a static IP address

[Steve Kleene]

I asked my organization to assign me a static IP address within their
network, and they obliged.  The problem is that every time I boot now, I
still get the old address in DHCP space that I had before.  To make the
change, I provided network operations with my MAC address, which I got from
the output of ifconfig -a:

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr aa:00:04:00:0a:04

All I did at my end to set this up was to change /etc/network/interfaces to
the following:

  auto lo
  iface lo inet loopback

  # The primary network interface
  allow-hotplug eth0
  iface eth0 inet static
  address 10.97.14.253
  netmask 255.255.255.0
  gateway 10.97.14.1

  auto eth0

which shows the new IP and gateway given to me by network operations.
Exactly such a file works fine on a second machine I have with a static IP.
It also conforms to the instructions here:

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch05.en.html#_the_network_interface_with_the_static_ip

I didn't list broadcast since the older machine's interfaces file seems to
work fine without it.  DNS stuff is handled by /etc/resolv.conf.
Connectivity is fine except that it's not at the assigned static IP (as
judged by ifconfig -a).

Network operations believes they did their end correctly.  Is there anything
else I should be doing at my end?

Thanks.


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Re: setting up a static IP address

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:49:24 +, I wrote:

 I asked my organization to assign me a static IP address within their
 network, and they obliged.  The problem is that every time I boot now, I
 still get the old address in DHCP space that I had before.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:58:06 GMT, Volkan YAZICI replied:

 You sure ifconfig eth0 still doesn't return 10.97.14.253?

Yes.

 Did you restart the networking service? That is, invoke-rc.d networking
 restart?

I had not tried that.  I had tried booting and assumed that would also
restart the network.  So I tried your suggestion.  That did in fact set eth0
to the desired static IP 10.97.14.253 while producing this error message:

Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not
enable again some interfaces ... (warning).

However, on rebooting I was once again assigned the dynamic IP 10.97.14.200.
In case it matters, I'll mention that I'm running Wheezy.  The kernel just
moved up to 3.0.0-1-686-pae on Friday, but this IP problem predates that.

Thanks.


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Re: setting up a static IP address

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:49:24 +, I wrote:

 I asked my organization to assign me a static IP address within their
 network, and they obliged.  The problem is that every time I boot now, I
 still get the old address in DHCP space that I had before.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 18:19:24 +0530, Mihira Fernando replied:

 Comment out allow-hotplug eth0 as you have auto eth0 there as well. Then
 reboot and see if that solves the problem.

Thanks, but that did not solve the problem.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:52:48 + (UTC), Camaleón replied:

 If adminds are requesting you the MAC address you may be still need to
 setup a dynamic configuration for your adapter (DHCP). So I would first
 ask them what kind of setup it is needed on your computer for a proper
 operation.

Nice idea, but they have told me that they don't do server support.  As I
mentioned, I do have a second box with a static IP that works fine with just
the configuration I'm trying here.  Although the hardware is different.

 Are you running wheezy on a VM?

No, Wheezy is the host, although I do have an XP VM client.

Given that restarting networking after booting fixes this, I can probably
just do that in /etc/rc.local.  But that's awfully hacky.


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Re: setting up a static IP address

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:49:24 +, I wrote:

 I asked my organization to assign me a static IP address within their
 network, and they obliged.  The problem is that every time I boot now, I
 still get the old address in DHCP space that I had before.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:26:32 + (UTC), Camaleón replied:

 How about ifdown eth0  ifup eth0 and then ifconfig?

That still leaves me with the unwanted DHCP address.

 Is dhclient runnig in background?

Now that looks interesting.  On the machine trying to set the static IP, this
is running:

  /sbin/dhclient -d -4 -sf /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action \
-pf /var/run/dhclient-eth0.pid \
-lf /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-ea3f96a9-7876-448b-b213-bbd10424e4f7-eth0.lease \
-cf /var/run/nm-dhclient-eth0.conf eth0

The parent process is shown as /usr/sbin/NetworkManager.  On my other
machine, which is successfully using a static IP, dhclient is not running.
Both machines have identical versions of /etc/init.d/network-manager, neither
of which shows any obvious call to dhclient.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 08:05:43 -0700 (PDT), gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Have u tried putting the auto eth0 before the lines specifying the static ip?

Thanks, but that caused some real havoc.  First I got errors about the
interfaces file, and then shutdown and reboot both went badly.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:54:26 +0100, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 I also wondered whether you were trying to run both your boxen with the
 same IP, since you say that the other one works.

That is not the problem.  I have two distinct static IPs, one for each box.


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Re: setting up a static IP address

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:14:56 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote:

 NM calls -by default- dhclient, so... is NM running?

Yes, it is running on each of the two machines.

 If so, stop NM (/etc/init.d/network-manager stop) or kill dhclient
 process and then restart the network service (also run ifdown/ifup, just to
 be sure). After that run ifconfig to check the current IP. If that solves
 your problem, just disable NM and your happiness will inmediately start :-)

Doing just this:
  cd /etc/init.d; network-manager stop; networking restart

gave me the desired static IP.  Then I ran this:

cd /etc/rc3.d; mv S03network-manager K97network-manager

rebooted and again got the desired static IP.

So assuming I won't miss network-manager, all is well.  I still don't
understand why the other box, which is still running network-manager and a
static IP, doesn't have this problem.  They're both running updated Wheezy.

Anyway, now I can get back to my real job.  Thanks again.


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can no longer print from acroread

[Steve Kleene]

Within the last week or so, my Wheezy machine has lost its ability to
successfully print a test PDF from acroread 9.4.2 to its USB CUPS printer
(Xerox Phaser 6280DN).  The printout is now just a page with a few PostScript
errors.

I don't think this is a CUPS problem.  lpstat -t shows nothing wrong, and I
get a successful printout from the test PDF with this:

/usr/bin/lpr -P Phaser_6280DN test.pdf

It also prints successfully from the Acrobat I have on a virtualbox XP
machine that uses the same CUPS printer.  And as I said, this same test file
printed fine from Wheezy's acroread until recently.  I tried reinstalling
acroread and associated packages, but that didn't fix the problem.

Here's another clue.  If I print from acroread to a file test.ps, I get a
file that on casual inspection looks like PostScript.  However, it fails to
open in gv, XP Acrobat, or Adobe Illustrator, all of which can open PS files
I make with groff.

The problem seems to involve the PostScript Printer Description.  I have
until now been successful with a file /etc/cups/ppd/Phaser_6280DN.ppd.  This
is a PPD provided by Xerox with some fixes (oopstops) that were needed when I
first brought it up.  If I delete that PPD, printing from acroread succeeds,
but then it doesn't offer any of the printer options I like.

Any ideas?  Thanks.


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Re: can no longer print from acroread

[Steve Kleene]

On Tue Aug  9 07:27:35 EDT 2011, I wrote:

 The problem seems to involve the PostScript Printer Description.  I have
 until now been successful with a file /etc/cups/ppd/Phaser_6280DN.ppd.

On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 15:30:54 + (UTC), noela...@gmail.com replied:

 You can add another printer (I mean, another stanza for the same printer,
 your Phaser 6280DN) from CUPS that uses the desired PPD (instead PS,
 try with PCL5/6 or another generic file) just to use it to print jobs
 from Acrobat Reader.

I'm not sure what PPD I'd use.  With the XP virtual machine, I fixed a
similar problem by switching (at your suggestion) to the PCL description.
However, Xerox doesn't offer a Linux PCL file for this Phaser.

What's more baffling to me is why printing from acroread just stopped
working.  Neither the PPD nor any of the acroread packages have changed since
I built Wheezy five months ago.  I noted on June 24th that printing from
acroread worked, and I think it only stopped working a week or two ago.

Thanks.


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Re: debian sensible browser help

[Steve Kleene]

On 2011-07-26 00:43:30 GMT, Robert Holtzman wrote:

 Try putting that line in .bashrc, log out and back in. Don't forget the
 .

On 2011-07-26 02:39:24 GMT, I wrote:

 I just did try that with the , and I still got sensible-browser when I
 used metamail.  Maybe that's unexpected, but at least listing iceweasel in
 ~/.mailcap has worked.

I should clarify that I am doing all of this from command lines under a
window manager (fvwm).  When I call startx, the first xterm's settings come
from ~/.bash_login.  But if I call more xterms from there, any settings in
~/.bashrc override those.  This was easily verified by playing with the login
prompt (PS1).

Assume I have no text/html entry in ~/.mailcap and no BROWSER defined in my
settings (as verified by echo $BROWSER).  If I then call metamail, it calls
sensible-browser, which in turns calls x-www-browser.  I don't know where
that is defined; it's not in /etc/mailcap.  If I define BROWSER as iceweasel
in ~/.bash_login, and then call metamail from any xterm, then sensible-
browser calls iceweasel.  If I only define BROWSER in ~/.bashrc, this doesn't
happen for the first xterm but does from subsequent ones.  In any case, there
are six processes:

26091 26012  metamail z
26092 26091  sh -c metamail /tmp/MK962cH
26093 26092  metamail /tmp/MK962cH
26094 26093  sh -c  /usr/bin/sensible-browser '/tmp/MNk6vkK'
26095 26094  /bin/sh /usr/bin/sensible-browser /tmp/MNk6vkK
26097 26095  /usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin /tmp/MNk6vkK

The other approach is to have a text/html entry for iceweasel in /etc/mailcap
or ~/.mailcap.  I prefer this solution.  Sensible-browser isn't called at
all, and there are five processes:

25339 25255  metamail z
25341 25339  sh -c metamail /tmp/Mmml5k6
25342 25341  metamail /tmp/Mmml5k6
25344 25342  sh -c  /usr/bin/iceweasel '/tmp/MM6RYsV'
25345 25344  /usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin /tmp/MM6RYsV


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Re: debian sensible browser help

[Steve Kleene]

On 2011-07-25 02:24:59 GMT, Paul E Condon wrote:

 How do I make debian offer google-chrome to gnome? I have
 checked all the places I know of. Where is sensible browser
 defined?

You might check in /etc/mailcap for lines that begin with text/html.  I
prefer to have iceweasel called instead of sensible-browser, so I move the
line with sensible-browser to the end of mailcap.  I often have to repeat
this procedure after an upgrade.  If your mailcap has a text/html line for
google-chrome, you might move that above other text/html lines.


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Re: debian sensible browser help

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 02:05:18PM +, I wrote:

 You might check in /etc/mailcap for lines that begin with text/html.  I
 prefer to have iceweasel called instead of sensible-browser, so I move the
 line with sensible-browser to the end of mailcap.  I often have to repeat
 this procedure after an upgrade.

On 2011-07-25 15:30:57 GMT, Darac Marjal replied:

 I believe ~/.mailcap overrides /etc/mailcap, so rather than editing
 /etc/mailcap and having to keep it up-to-date, you might find it easier
 to simply copy the line to ~/.mailcap.

I tested this and you're right.  That's an improvement.  Thanks.

On 2011-07-25 19:14:48 GMT, Robert Holtzman wrote:

 Anything wrong with putting the following line in .bashrc?
 
 BROWSER=/usr/bin/google-chrome  export BROWSER

From my command line, I tried

BROWSER=/usr/bin/iceweasel export BROWSER

but found that reading an html e-mail then brought up both iceweasel and
sensible-browser.  I had no entry for html in ~/.mailcap, and /etc/mailcap
listed sensible-browser.  I did this all with metamail, which is kind of
archaic.


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Re: debian sensible browser help

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:53:28PM +, I wrote:

 From my command line, I tried

 BROWSER=/usr/bin/iceweasel export BROWSER
 
 but found that reading an html e-mail then brought up both iceweasel and
 sensible-browser.  I had no entry for html in ~/.mailcap, and /etc/mailcap
 listed sensible-browser.  I did this all with metamail, which is kind of
 archaic.

On 2011-07-26 00:43:30 GMT, Robert Holtzman wrote:

 Try putting that line in .bashrc, log out and back in. Don't forget the
 .

I just did try that with the , and I still got sensible-browser when I
used metamail.  Maybe that's unexpected, but at least listing iceweasel in
~/.mailcap has worked.

Thanks.


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Re: Wheezy apt-get upgrade blows away USB printer

[Steve Kleene]

On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 13:47:13 +, I wrote:

 I have a Wheezy host with a USB CUPS printer (Xerox Phaser 6280DN).  I
 just did a weekly apt-get upgrade, and now the printer can't be found.

On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 14:50:26 + (UTC), Camaleón replied:

 Does re-plugging the USB printer cable works?

In fact just turning the printer off and on helped.  I then also rebooted and
now the printer works from both the Wheezy host and the virtualbox XP client.

However, there is a new error message early on in booting:

Waiting for /dev to be fully populated...
udevd[425]: failed to execute '/lib/udev/mtp-probe'
'mtp-probe /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.3 1 3'
: No such file or directory

 Mmmm, you mean there is long delay between the system is powered on until
 you get GRUB's menu, right?

Yes, but that has now reverted to normal too.

 Do you have any external device attached to
 your computer such as USB hard disks or another goodies?

The only external devices are monitor, keyboard, and mouse none of which
(believe it or not) are USB.  I do have a USB extender cable connected, but
at the moment nothing is connected to it.

Thanks.


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Re: Wheezy apt-get upgrade blows away USB printer

[Steve Kleene]

On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 13:47:13 +, I wrote:

 I have a Wheezy host with a USB CUPS printer (Xerox Phaser 6280DN).  I
 just did a weekly apt-get upgrade, and now the printer can't be found.

On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 14:50:26 + (UTC), Camaleón replied:

 (and just out of curiosity... your printed shows -N in its name so I
 think is a network based one. If so, why using the USB interface? I've
 always found network based card to be more reliable than USB ones)

I forgot to answer this.  I did have it running from a local network hub
until just two weeks ago.  There were two problems.  First, my organization
frowns on private hubs, since they'd rather charge us for a separate jack
for every networked device.  Second, if the hub goes down (e.g. a power
outage) and the printer gets assigned a new IP, then I have to redefine the
printer URL, which is somewhat annoying on the XP end.  So I thought a direct
USB CUPS printer would be better all around.


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Re: Wheezy apt-get upgrade blows away USB printer [SOLVED, I guess]

[Steve Kleene]

On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:41:03 + (UTC), I wrote:

 However, there is a new error message early on in booting:

 Waiting for /dev to be fully populated...
 udevd[425]: failed to execute '/lib/udev/mtp-probe'

I found a fix for this (installing libmtp-runtime) under bug 627410.  The
error message is now gone and /lib/udev/mtp-probe exists.  The bug report
suggests that installing libmtp-runtime should be unnecessary.


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Re: VM client can't access CUPS printer

[Steve Kleene]

 I have a Wheezy host with a USB printer and a virtualbox XP client.  The
 VM (client) is unable to access the CUPS printer.

On 2011-06-28 12:09:49 GMT, Camaleón replied:

 Openprinting has a related comment on this postscript error:

 http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Xerox/Xerox-Phaser_6280

 I would try to load the PPD from Xerox's site, just in case it is most
 updated. I mean, regadless you're in windows or linux, use the most
 updated PPD/PostScript drivers available.

I did have to implement the openprinting solution when I first set the
printer up, and that is still there.  And I just checked Xerox and verified
that both my Linux and XP drivers are up-to-date.  I still have a problem and
will put that up as a new thread (CUPS printer prints garbage from VM).

Thanks.


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CUPS printer prints garbage from VM (was: VM client can't access CUPS printer)

[Steve Kleene]

I have a Wheezy host with a USB CUPS printer (Xerox Phaser 6280DN) and a
virtualbox XP client.  All of the software is up-to-date, including the vbox
guest additions and extension pack.  The VM (client) accesses the CUPS
printer but just prints a page of PostScript errors.  Here's the whole story:

1. From the host, PostScript has always printed fine, supported by
   /etc/cups/ppd/Phaser_6280DN.ppd.
2. I have a saved VM from when the Phaser had its own IP on a local hub.  I
   can still print fine from the VM with that configuration.
3. If I delete that VM printer and re-define a network printer with the IP
   of the host's CUPS printer, I can still print from the VM.  In other
   words, it succeeds in accessing the CUPS printer.  However, the printout
   just shows a few PostScript errors (from either Word or Acrobat).  I can
   post those if it might help.

I found the directory with the client's driver files and made sure all of
those files were the same before and after replacing the printer definition.
In one trial, I also deleted that whole directory before defining the new
client network printer.

So two questions:

Q1. Are the client's drivers even relevant here when it accesses the CUPS
printer, or is everything done by the host's PPD?
Q2. Any ideas how to get printing from the client to work?

I have a similar setup that works at home but with an old HP LaserJet 5MP.

Thanks.


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Re: CUPS printer prints garbage from VM (was: VM client can't access CUPS printer)

[Steve Kleene]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:39:04 + (UTC), I wrote:

 I have a Wheezy host with a USB CUPS printer (Xerox Phaser 6280DN) and a
 virtualbox XP client.  All of the software is up-to-date, including the vbox
 guest additions and extension pack.  The VM (client) accesses the CUPS
 printer but just prints a page of PostScript errors.  ...

 Q2. Any ideas how to get printing from the client to work?

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:05:55 + (UTC), Camaleón replied:

 I would try with the PCL6 one, in windows it uses to work better and is
 faster than PS.

That did fix the problem.  I hadn't expected that the XP PS driver could work
for a local USB printer but not for a CUPS USB printer.  In any case I have
what I need now.  Thanks again.


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VM client can't access CUPS printer

[Steve Kleene]

I have a Wheezy host with a USB printer and a virtualbox XP client.  The VM
(client) is unable to access the CUPS printer.  In XP, I have tried URLs of
this form in defining a network printer:

  http://URL:631/printers/Phaser_6280DN

where URL is any one of the following:

  10.97.14.132 (host IP, from ifconfig -a)
  10.0.2.2 (default gateway of VM, from ipconfig /all)
  localhost
  127.0.0.1

The VM can ping all four of those addresses.  Phaser_6280DN is the name of
the host's CUPS printer.  When I enter any of the above URLs, the VM says:

Windows cannot connect to the printer.  Either the printer name was typed
incorrectly, or the specified printer has lost its connection to the
server.

With iceweasel on the host, either of these URLs

  http://localhost:631/printers/Phaser_6280DN
  http://127.0.0.1:631/printers/Phaser_6280DN

brings up the CUPS printer definition.  I've found no way to do that from the
client's Explorer.  The CUPS printer works OK from the host.

Wheezy and virtualbox are both up-to-date, including the guest additions and
extension pack.  I have the same host/client pair at home with a CUPS
parallel printer.  The client printer definition there includes the host IP,
and that works.  From the client, I can print and also bring up the printer
definition in Explorer under host_IP:631.  In both setups, I am using the
same cupsd.conf and NAT.  Any ideas what the problem is?

Thanks.


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Re: VM client can't access CUPS printer

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:13:18 +, I wrote:

 I have a Wheezy host with a USB printer and a virtualbox XP client.  The
 VM (client) is unable to access the CUPS printer.

On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:51:40 +, Camaleón replied:

 Also, how does you /etc/cups/cupsd.conf look like?

That was the right question.  In adding cupsd.conf to my planned reply, I
noticed that I had made a stupid mistake.  cupsd.conf has the line
Listen hostname:631, where I insert the correct hostname.  I blew it and
left in the name of the host from which I copied the line.

Now the client VM can get to the CUPS system and the printer.  Oddly, though,
for this to work I have to restart /etc/init.d/cups if I have just rebooted
the host, even though CUPS is started late in the boot.  I think I had the
same problem when I first set up my similar system at home, but then the
problem just went away on its own.

I'm still not in business.  The Phaser is accessed and prints, but it prints
out a PostScript error.  I'll have to investigate the driver some more.

Thanks.


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Re: virtualbox cannot see USB anymore

[Steve Kleene]

At 2011-06-25 01:19:03, H.S. wrote:

 I am running an updating Testing box.  ... In any case, my USB support is now
 gone.

I also have testing and vbox and have sometimes been able to restore USB by
changing a line in my xpvm.vbox file.  The line that works is this:

  USBController enabled=true enabledEhci=false/

If false gets changed to true, USB no longer works.

This may not be your problem, since you're getting an error message I haven't
seen.  My installation doesn't even have the file you mentioned
(/usr/share/virtualbox/VBoxCreateUSBNode.sh).


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Re: Wheezy upgrade trashes display

[Steve Kleene]

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:30:09 + (UTC), I wrote:

 Two weeks ago I successfully installed Wheezy (testing).  Yesterday I did
 the latest upgrades, and now my X-Windows display is unreadable.

I can no longer reproduce this problem and have updated bug 622761.  Today I
ran apt-get install xorg and got all the same xorg packages that had seemed
to cause the problem a month ago.  Now, however, X comes up fine.  A lot of
packages have been upgraded in the last month, and I don't know which may
have been responsible for the fix.


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Re: xorg freezes/sticks under kernel 2.6.38

[Steve Kleene]

On Wed, 11 May 2011 11:09:06 +0100, Wolodja Wentland wrote:

 I wanted to let you know that you can reassign the bug yourself. Have a look
 at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control and the bts tool from the
 devscripts package. (I've done that for now)

Thanks.  I hadn't known that.

 Regarding your problem, it might be a good idea to follow the instructions on:

 http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/XserverDebugging

OK, I'll see what I can find out, but probably not until this weekend.


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Re: xorg freezes/sticks under kernel 2.6.38

[Steve Kleene]

On 2011-05-10 20:40:21 GMT, Bill Brelsford wrote:

 Since upgrading to kernel 2.6.38, I've been experiencing freezes
 in X. ... Anyone else experiencing this?  Suggestions?

On one of my Wheezy 2.6.28 machines (but not on the other), an xorg upgrade
wrecked my fvwm X Windows display.  I got it working again by undoing the X
upgrade, and those packages are now being held back.  Someday when newer ones
come along I may try again.

More details are here:
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=622761



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Re: xmodmap settings are forgotten/lost during session

[Steve Kleene]

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:20:46 +0200, Wolfgang Karall wrote:

 after upgrading ... I lost my F19/F20 mapping done via xmodmap

About a week ago my ~/.Xmodmap, which turns off Caps Lock, started being
ignored.  It is not even accessed (as judged by ls -lu) when I start X.

According to the report for bug 622185, this happened when xkb-data was
upgraded from 1.8-2 to 2.1-2.  Since you don't list xkb-data among your
upgraded packages, maybe this is irrelevant to your problem.

For my problem, the workaround was to add this to ~/.xinitrc:

  setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps

There may be a similar workaround for your situation.


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Re: Wheezy upgrade trashes display

[Steve Kleene]

 I had same issue after last major upgrade. ... Was able to overcome the
 problem changing radeonhd to radeon in my xorg.conf file.

Thanks.  I also solved the problem here but by putting back older versions of
some xorg and xserver-xorg packages.  The discussion of this ended up in
another thread, Subject: [SOLVED] Multseat don't work after xorg (and
related) upgrade


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Re: changing my e-mail address

[Steve Kleene]

On 2011-04-16 07:25:25 GMT, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

 I wrote several times to listowner at lists.debian.org,
 for a problem with bounces and for the present question,
 and never got any answer

My e-mail to lists.debian.org (and to nowhere else) started bouncing, about a
year ago.  This was about when my employer started prepending a BATV tag to
my outgoing mails, changing my simple e-mail address into a variable mess of
this general form: prvs=986f23af3=sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu.

When I wrote to listmas...@lists.debian.org, I did get a helpful reply, but I
didn't fully understand it.  It said that they do envelope from sender
verification.  What I think this means is that they send some test message
back to the munged address with BATV tag.  My server doesn't accept mail to
the munged address and bounces it.  So the verification fails and my post is
tossed.

I gave up and now post to the list at
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user.


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Re: [SOLVED] Multseat don't work after xorg (and related) upgrade

[Steve Kleene]

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:34:57 + (UTC), I wrote:

 As noted in another thread (Wheezy upgrade trashes display), upgrades on
 Monday left me with no X-windows.

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:41:47 -0300, Marcelo Laia replied:

 I do that in this way: ...

I was also able to get my X windows back by reinstating some older xorg and
xserver-xorg packages.  I didn't have to mess with any other systems (e.g.
udev), and I was eventually able to get a system with no unmet dependencies.
For now apt-get upgrade is holding back the 37 newer xorg packages, and it
will be awhile before I'm willing to try them again.

Thanks.

Mwanwhile, I reported bug 622761 against the wrong package (linux-image).  I
don't know if there's a way to correct that.


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Re: [SOLVED] Multseat don't work after xorg (and related) upgrade

[Steve Kleene]

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 17:23:08 + (UTC), I wrote:

 Meanwhile, I reported bug 622761 against the wrong package (linux-image).
 I don't know if there's a way to correct that.

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 20:44:34 +0200, Klistvud replied:

 Posting a message to the relevant bug # on the debian bug tracking
 system should suffice.

I just did that and got an automated receipt.  Thanks.


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want to restore older version of Wheezy

[Steve Kleene]

As noted in another thread (Wheezy upgrade trashes display), upgrades on
Monday left me with no X-windows.  I suspect this happened when the kernel
was upgraded from 2.6.32-5-686 to 2.6.38-2-686.  I still have the netinst CD
that I originally used.  It predates the kernel upgrade, and the CD has
linux-image-2.6.32-5-686.

I'm thinking that I may need to reinstall the whole system.  If I use the old
netinst CD, will it automatically proceed to upgrading the kernel, or will it
stop with 2.6.32 (which was a successful system)?

Thanks.


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snapshots

[Steve Kleene]

As noted in another thread (Wheezy upgrade trashes display), upgrades on
Monday left me with no X-windows.  I suspect this happened when the kernel
was upgraded from 2.6.32-5-686 to 2.6.38-2-686.  I can imagine uninstalling
all the new packages, including the new kernel, but I'm not optimistic that
would get me back to my happy 2.6.32 system.

I've used VMware Server and virtualbox to run virtual XP clients, and they
let me take a snapshot of the system before trying any risky changes.  If the
client blows up, it's trivial to revert to the snapshot.  Is there any way to
take and restore such snapshots from the Linux host?   It sure would be
useful.

Thanks.


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Re: Wheezy upgrade trashes display

[Steve Kleene]

 Two weeks ago I successfully installed Wheezy (testing).  Yesterday I did the
 latest upgrades, and now my X-Windows display is unreadable.

I just submitted a bug report on this (bug #622761).

I was a little annoyed that this was classified as severity level normal.
As defined here:

  http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities

I would say all four of the more severe levels apply, even critical (makes
unrelated software break).  Oh well.


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Re: [SOLVED] Multseat don't work after xorg (and related) upgrade

[Steve Kleene]

 Could you see this thread?
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/04/msg01008.html

Thanks.  I might like to try this but don't quite know enough.  How did you
decide which packages to downgrade?  All of those that were upgraded on April
12th, or just those relating to xorg?  It appears you may have also gone back
to udev 166-1.

Also, how exactly do you do the downgrade?  Do you first run apt-get remove
and then install the older packages?  I'm not sure of the names of the old
packages or where you get them (snapshot or backports)?  I don't have them in
/var/cache/apt/archives.

Thanks.


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Re: [SOLVED] Multseat don't work after xorg (and related) upgrade

[Steve Kleene]

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:41:47 -0300, Marcelo Laia wrote:

 I do that in this way:

Thanks, Marcelo.  I'll try this in a couple of days.  I don't have much to
lose at this point.


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Re: Wheezy upgrade trashes display

[Steve Kleene]

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:30:09 + (UTC), I wrote:

 Two weeks ago I successfully installed Wheezy (testing).  Yesterday I did
 the latest upgrades, and now my X-Windows display is unreadable. ...

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:00:08 -0400, Eike Lantzsch zp6...@gmx.net replied:

 So what module are you running? Is it i810?

The machine that was successfully upgraded is running i915, and I believe the
one at home is also (although I'm not there now).  Both have Intel video
chips.  The box that upgraded OK was built this year and has an i5 processor
with the onboard IGDNG/D (Clarkdale) chipset.  The one that's borked was
built in 2006 and has a Pentium 4 with onboard 946GZ graphics.


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Re: X crashes since last upgrade

[Steve Kleene]

On 2011-04-13 16:40:38 GMT, S Scharf wrote:

 Since installing the large upgrade earlier this week (which included the
 new OS and xserver packages) my x server crashes ... I am running Testing ...
 Any one know what to look for to diagnose this issue?

Unfortunately I do not, but you are not alone.  I just started a similar
thread (Wheezy upgrade trashes display) yesterday.  You might keep an eye
on that thread in case a solution is found.  Meanwhile I guess we'll both be
working from text consoles.


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Wheezy upgrade trashes display

[Steve Kleene]

Two weeks ago I successfully installed Wheezy (testing).  Yesterday I did the
latest upgrades, and now my X-Windows display is unreadable.  Here are the
details:

1. I called apt-get upgrade, which listed 50 packages it was holding back.
   Most were xorg-related.  I did not proceed with that upgrade but called
   apt-get install to install the 50 packages, and then apt-get
   autoremove as suggested.  I then proceeded again with apt-get upgrade,
   which installed many more packages, including a kernel upgrade from
   2.6.32-5-686 to 2.6.38-2-686.  I got an xorg warning for people running
   the ati module, which I was not.  Another error warned about e100, which I
   am running.
2. Now I can I reboot into a text console, which is how I have things set up.
   At that point everything seems fine; the keyboard and sound both work.  I
   have an internet connection, so I guess e100 is not a problem.
3. I then call startx, which tries to use fvwm to put up windows.  Instead I
   get something resembling a display grossly out of sync.  The same happens
   if I start gdm3 (gnome).  However, there is a perfectly nice arrow icon
   for the mouse, and it responds to the mouse.  The worst thing is that
   neither CTRL-ALT-F1 nor CTRL-ALT-Backscape lets me drop back to the
   console.  I have to do a hardware reset and reboot (or do sleep 30;
   reboot in another console before I try startx).

I just did a full backup of my healthy Wheezy disk this weekend.  To my
surprise, Xorg.0.log now is identical to the one from the good system, except
for a date.  It does seem that something more than X is screwed up, since the
keyboard won't let me drop out of X.  Since the mouse works (as well as
sleep; reboot), the system hasn't totally crashed.  Grub still offers me
the chance to boot into 2.6.32, but that crashes with a screen full of kernel
errors.

I will report some lines seen on booting the new kernel, even though they may
not underlie the display problem.  Here they are:

Starting rpcbind daemon...rpcbind: Cannot open '/var/run/rpcbind/rpcbind.xdr'
  file for reading, errno 2 (No such file or directory)
CPUFreq Utilities: Setting ondemand CPUFreq governor...disabled, governor not
  available...done.
saned disabled: edit /etc/default/saned
SpamAssassin Mail Filter Daemon: disabled, see /etc/default/spamassassin

Finally, I will mention that I did all the same upgrades yesterday on another
Wheezy system (different hardware) with no problem.

I would welcome any suggestions for fixing this.  I can post xorg.conf and
Xorg.0.log if necessary, although that doesn't seem to be the problem.
Thanks.





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Re: accessing shared printed from virtualbox client [SOLVED]

[Steve Kleene]

On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:33:25 + (UTC), I wrote:
 I have a Wheezy host, an XP virtualbox client, and an old LaserJet 5MP
 configured with CUPS and connected by a parallel port.  How can I access this
 printer from the XP client?

Here finally is the minimal solution that worked.  Based on the suggestions
from Liam O'Toole and tv.deb...@googlemail.com, I added this to cupsd.conf:

  Location /
  Order Deny,Allow
  Deny From All
  Allow From 127.0.0.1
  Allow From localhost
  Allow From @LOCAL
  /Location

I also added this:

  Listen drx:631

where drx maps to 192.168.1.2 (the host) in /etc/hosts.  In the XP client, I
defined a printer at this URL:

  http://192.168.1.2:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

That's it.  It works now.

I have some other notes.  On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 09:05:29 + (UTC), Liam
O'Toole had suggested:

 To work around the problem above, tell CUPS to listen on the external
 network interface as well:

   Listen *:631

Putting this line literally into cupsd.conf gave these errors in the log:

E [03/Apr/2011:08:58:03 -0400] Unable to bind socket for address 0.0.0.0:631 -
Address already in use.
E [03/Apr/2011:08:58:03 -0400] Unable to bind socket for address :::631 -
Address already in use.

I also tried

  Listen 192.168.1.*:631

which gave

E [03/Apr/2011:08:59:49 -0400] Hostname lookup for 192.168.1.* failed!
E [03/Apr/2011:08:59:49 -0400] Bad Listen address 192.168.1.*:631 at line 21.

but either of these worked:

  Listen 192.168.1.2:631
  Listen drx:631

I chose the second because I will only need to change hosts, and not
cupsd.conf, on occasions when the router goes out and the host (drx) ends up
with a new IP address.  I guess I'll still have to redefine the client
printer's URL.

One oddity is that the XP client did nothing (appearing to hang) for 2-3 min
after I entered the printer URL.  But then it came to life, and there is no
delay when printing.

Thanks much to both of you for your time and expertise.  I would not have
figured this all out on my own.


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accessing shared printed from virtualbox client

[Steve Kleene]

I have a Wheezy host, an XP virtualbox client, and an old LaserJet 5MP
configured with CUPS and connected by a parallel port.  How can I access this
printer from the XP client?

In XP Add Printer, I tried to define a network printer at these URLs:

  http://127.0.0.1:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP
  http://192.168.1.2:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

but they were not found.  (192.168.1.2 is my port on a local router; ifconfig
shows it for eth0.)  The CUPS interface at localhost:631 lists the connection
site as parallel:/dev/lp0.

I have not set up Samba sharing.  As shown below, /etc/cups/printers.conf
shows the printer as shared, and I thought that should suffice.

I gather virtualbox won't support the parallel-port connection directly.  I
did succeed with a USB-to-parallel adapter cable and defining a USB printer,
but I'd rather use the CUPS shared printer if possible.

Thanks.

- /etc/cups/printers.conf -
Printer LaserJet_5MP
Info HP_LaserJet_5MP
Location office
MakeModel HP LaserJet 5MP Postscript (recommended)
DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp0
State Idle
StateTime 1301774690
Type 8425540
Product (Hewlett-Packard HP LaserJet 5P)
Filter application/vnd.cups-raw 0 -
Filter application/vnd.cups-command 0 commandtops
Filter application/vnd.cups-postscript 0 -
Accepting Yes
Shared Yes
JobSheets none none
QuotaPeriod 0
PageLimit 0
KLimit 0
OpPolicy default
ErrorPolicy stop-printer
/Printer


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Re: accessing shared printed from virtualbox client

[Steve Kleene]

On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:33:25 + (UTC), I wrote:

 I have a Wheezy host, an XP virtualbox client, and an old LaserJet 5MP
 configured with CUPS and connected by a parallel port.  How can I access this
 printer from the XP client?

On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:52:13 + (UTC), Liam O'Toole replied:

 Assuming the virtualbox client uses NAT networking (the default), the
 client can't connect directly to the host's CUPS daemon. Instead tell it
 to connect to the virtual private address 10.0.2.0 or similar; see the
 output of the route command on the guest to determine the precise
 gateway address.

Thanks, but I'm not there yet.  On the XP client, I ran route from the
command prompt and got, in part:

route PRINT
route ADD 157.0.0.0 MASK 255.0.0.0  157.55.80.1 METRIC 3 IF 2
   destination^  ^mask  ^gateway metric^^
   Interface^

So I tried setting up an XP network printer at these two URLs:

  http://157.55.80.1:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP
  http://157.0.0.0:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

but neither was found.  I also tried 192.168.1.0, which is shown by route on
the Linux host.  LaserJet_5MP is the correct Linux name for the printer,
but I must still be doing something wrong.


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Re: accessing shared printed from virtualbox client

[Steve Kleene]

On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:52:13 + (UTC), Liam O'Toole replied:

 Instead tell it
 to connect to the virtual private address 10.0.2.0 or similar; see the
 output of the route command on the guest to determine the precise
 gateway address.

Route didn't give me such an address, but ipconfig /all gave me these:

IP Address 10.0.2.15
gateway 10.0.2.2

I tried this sort of thing as a URL for the network printer:

  http://10.0.2.2:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

but still no luck.


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Re: accessing shared printed from virtualbox client

[Steve Kleene]

 What sort of networking
 are you using in virtualbox? Can you tell us more about the network
 configuration within the XP guest OS?

The virtualbox manager says
  Adapter 1: PCnet-FAST III (NAT)

/etc/cups/printers.conf (see the original post) does say that the printer is
shared.  At the CUPS web interface
(http://localhost:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP), though, the header says Not
Shared.  So I'm not sure about that.


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Re: accessing shared printed from virtualbox client

[Steve Kleene]

I'm getting behind (or maybe I started there).

On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 23:04:49 + (UTC), Liam O'Toole wrote:

 The log files under /var/log/cups on the host
 OS will contain information on any refused connections.

If I try to set up a network printer on XP at

  http://192.168.1.2:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

there is no error in /var/log/cups/error-log, but the XP Add Printer
Wizard says

  Windows cannot connect to the printer.  Either the printer name was typed
  incorrectly, or the specified printer has lost its connection to the
  server.

If I try to set up a network printer on XP at

  http://10.0.2.2:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

I get the same Windows error, and /var/log/cups/error-log shows this:

E [02/Apr/2011:21:31:37 -0400] Request from localhost using invalid Host:
field 10.0.2.2:631

On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 23:22:09 + (UTC), Liam O'Toole wrote:

 The file /etc/cups/cupsd.conf on the host will tell you on which
 interfaces the daemon is listening.

It shows
  Listen localhost:631
  Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:23:44 +0200, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi, this is the correct way to do it :

 http://192.168.1.2:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP

 provided that LaserJet_5MP is the proper name of your printer (lpstat
 -t).

lpstat -t does show that name.

 Then in cupsd.conf you need something like:

 Location /
 Order Deny,Allow
 Deny From All
 Allow From 127.0.0.1
 Allow From localhost
 Allow From @LOCAL
 /Location

 to allow printing from different subnet

I put this in cupsd.conf and restarted /etc/init.d/cups.  Then I tried to set
up the XP network printer with the URL you suggest, but I got the same XP
error shown above.

 and you need port 631 opened.

I'm not sure what this means.  It is listed in /etc/services and in
cupsd.conf.


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xvidtune and Intel

[Steve Kleene]

Does xvidtune ever work with onboard Intel video chipsets?  It never has for
me.

I'm running testing (Wheezy) on an Intel i5 CPU (DH55HC).  Most video
functions seem fine, but if I try to re-center the display with xvidtune, I
get this:

  You have requested a mode-line.  That is not possible, or
   not supported by your configuration

Adding ModeLine statements to xorg.conf also fails.  Nowhere in Intel docs
could I find the name of the video chipset, but this line in dmesg:

  agpgart-intel :00:00.0: Intel IGDNG/D Chipset

indicates it's the IGDNG/D (Clarkdale) chipset, which as I understand it is
integrated into the CPU.  I have the xserver-xorg-video-intel package, and
lsmod shows the i915 module for video.

I have also never gotten xvidtune to work on my Lenny box, which has an Intel
Pentium 4 and the 946GZ video chipset.  The hardware is four years old.  I've
kept Lenny up-to-date, but xvidtune and ModeLines still fail.  I had thought
a fix might be distributed at some point.  Only on a third box with a separate
Asus GeForce2 video card did xvidtune and ModeLines work.

In one case, I dodged the problem by using the monitor's push-buttons to
center the display.  However, the button is broken on the other monitor.

Does anyone know if the onboard Intel VGA chip can support this function?  If
so, should I file a bug report against x11-xserver-utils?  Thanks.


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Re: X-windows copy/paste mess [SOLVED]

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:13:01 + (UTC), I wrote:

 I'm running testing (Wheezy) and am failing to get copy/paste working cleanly
 among my most common windows, namely:

  several xterms
  virtualbox running a virtual XP client
  iceweasel
 ...
 Is there any way to get all of these programs to use the same selection?  I'd
 be happy if xterm could be told to always copy to both PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD,
 but it seems you have to pick one or the other.

There were no follow-ups, so maybe no one was interested in this problem.
But I did eventually find a solution here:

  http://www.davidsimmons.com/soft/xtermhacks/

and will post it in case anyone else can benefit.  The solution was to add
this to ~/.Xresources:

  XTerm*VT100.translations: #override Btn1Up: select-end(PRIMARY, CLIPBOARD,
CUT_BUFFER0)

I can't say that I fully understand the syntax, but supposedly it does the
following:
  xterm copies a highlighted selection into both CLIPBOARD and PRIMARY (and
also a cut buffer)
  text is pasted from CLIPBOARD if there is nothing in PRIMARY

Here are the results of copy/paste tests after the change:

  + xterm - iceweasel URL window
  + iceweasel URL window - xterm
  + iceweasel main window - xterm
  + acroread - xterm

  + xterm - Explorer URL window
  + Explorer URL window - xterm
  + Explorer main window - xterm
  + xterm - Word
  + Word - xterm
  + Acrobat - xterm

  + Explorer URL window - iceweasel URL window
  - iceweasel URL window - Explorer URL window
  - iceweasel URL window - Word

Here Explorer, Word, and Acrobat were in the virtualbox XP client.  `+' means
the paste worked; `-' means it didn't.


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X-windows copy/paste mess

[Steve Kleene]

I'm running testing (Wheezy) and am failing to get copy/paste working cleanly
among my most common windows, namely:

  several xterms
  virtualbox running a virtual XP client
  iceweasel

The window manager is fvwm.  As far as I can tell, the problem comes down to
this:
  virtualbox only reads from the CLIPBOARD selection.
  iceweasel only reads from or writes to PRIMARY.
  xterms can be configured to work with PRIMARY or CLIPBOARD but not both.

At first, I relied on defaults (PRIMARY), and all copy/paste worked with one
exception: I couldn't paste into virtualbox.  (This had not been a problem
with VMware.)  After reading this:

  http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/7805

I added a line to ~/.Xresources:

  xterm*selectToClipboard: true

This makes xterms use CLIPBOARD instead of the default PRIMARY.  After that,
I could copy and paste between an xterm and virtualbox (via CLIPBOARD).  Now,
though, I can't do copy/paste with iceweasel and anything else, probably
because iceweasel uses PRIMARY exclusively.  Adding this to ~/.Xresources:

  iceweasel*selectToClipboard: true

had no effect.

There are solutions posted, e.g.:

  http://blog.bigsmoke.us/2010/01/31/xterm-clipboard-selection

I haven't tried to duplicate those yet because they require extra keystrokes
to specify PRIMARY or CLIPBOARD.  I can get from xterm to iceweasel by
creating a cut buffer with xcutsel, but that's too hard.

Is there any way to get all of these programs to use the same selection?  I'd
be happy if xterm could be told to always copy to both PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD,
but it seems you have to pick one or the other.

Thanks.


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Re: how to send DEL to virtualbox client

[Steve Kleene]

On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:30:41 + (UTC), I wrote:

 I'm running my first virtualbox client (Windows XP) on a host that has Linux
 testing (Wheezy).  ...  Can someone tell me how to send DEL from the keyboard
 to an XP program on the client?

I have solved this problem but am still confused.  What was happening was
that both Backspace and Delete were seen within vbox as Backspace (e.g.
causing the menu to back up by one level).  In my ~/.Xmodmap, I had this line

  keysym Delete = BackSpace

(relic of an ancient problem with erase across connected machines).  Deleting
that and restarting X allowed proper Delete function in vbox.  One thing I
don't understand is why my Lenny machine with VMware XP client doesn't
function the same way.  I have the same .Xmodmap line on the Lenny host, but
the Delete key causes delete function in the VMware client.  Both hosts are
running fvwm window manager.

In the process of investigating this, I found that I am really very confused
about keymapping and the erase function in general.  I'll start a re-named
subthread on this.


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confused about keymapping and erase (was: how to send DEL to virtualbox client)

[Steve Kleene]

I am running testing (Wheezy) with X windows and fvwm window manager.  My
questions concern the mapping of two physical keyboard keys:

  keycode 22, labeled Backspace, at the right of the row with [0-9]
  keycode 107, labeled Delete, on a small 3x2 keypad just to the right of the
Backspace key

I got the keycodes by running xev, which also reports the following:
  keycode 22 (keysym 0xff08, BackSpace)
  XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (08) ^H
  XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (08) ^H

  keycode 107 (keysym 0x, Delete)
  XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (7f) ^?
  XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (7f) ^?

(I ran the output of xev to a file to see the characters shown above in
double quotes.)  So far so good.  But now I run stty -a, which shows:
  ...; erase = ^?; ...

This seems to identify ^? (0177, 0x7f, del) as the erase function.  xev
indicates that key 107 is mapped to 0x7f.  However, I get erase function not
from key 107, which is mapped to del, but from key 22, which sends 0x08
(^H, 0010, bs, \b).

Why is erase function found in the key mapped to 0x08 but not in the one
mapped to 0x7f, when the stty listing seems to predict the opposite?

I also found it odd that if I try od -c and hit key 22, od reports nothing.
If I enter CTRL-h, it reports \b. I had thought that either should generate
0x08.

I have links to some references that used to explain such issues, but I
suspect that they are now obsolete.  If there is a current good explanation
out there, I'd be happy to look at it.

Thanks.


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how to send DEL to virtualbox client

[Steve Kleene]

I'm running my first virtualbox client (Windows XP) on a host that has Linux
testing (Wheezy).  Vbox is 4.0.2_OSE r35621.  The extension pack and guest
additions seem to be mostly functional.

Can someone tell me how to send DEL from the keyboard to an XP program on the
client?  I use DEL often, but it is being grabbed before it gets to XP.  I
tried entering DEL with the vbox host key (R-CTRL) to no effect.  The
environment is X windows running the fvwm window manager.  I'm guessing that
fvwm passes DEL through, because it did when I was running VMware Server
(albeit on what is now oldstable Debian).

Thanks.


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Re: Anybody else having delay issues with updating testing/ wheezy? [solved]

[Steve Kleene]

Krzysztof Bieniasz krzysztof.t.bieniasz at gmail.com writes:

 I'm a bit perplexed by these packages you mention. I can't seem to find 
 them. Perhaps they've been removed from the repositories.

On my Wheezy system, apt-get upgrade was holding back lots of packages
because of this, so I ran apt-get dist-upgrade, the report of which follows.
At the moment 20 openoffice packages remain on my system plus 22 for
libreoffice (according to dpkg --list).  I'm waiting to see if this will all
resolve itself.

The following packages will be REMOVED:
  openoffice.org-base-core openoffice.org-core openoffice.org-evolution
  openoffice.org-report-builder-bin
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  cmap-adobe-japan1 gs-cjk-resource libgs9 libgs9-common libnice10
  libraptor2-0 librasqal3 libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core
  libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw
  libreoffice-emailmerge libreoffice-filter-binfilter
  libreoffice-filter-mobiledev libreoffice-gcj libreoffice-gnome
  libreoffice-gtk libreoffice-help-en-us libreoffice-impress
  libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-math libreoffice-officebean
  libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice-style-galaxy
  libreoffice-style-tango libreoffice-writer libwpd-0.9-9 libwpg-0.2-2
  libwps-0.2-2 libyajl1
The following packages will be upgraded:
  ghostscript ghostscript-x gstreamer0.10-nice inkscape libgstfarsight0.10-0
  librdf0 libslv2-9 libspectre1 openoffice.org openoffice.org-base
  openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-common openoffice.org-draw
  openoffice.org-emailmerge openoffice.org-filter-binfilter
  openoffice.org-filter-mobiledev openoffice.org-gcj openoffice.org-gnome
  openoffice.org-gtk openoffice.org-help-en-us openoffice.org-impress
  openoffice.org-java-common openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-officebean
  openoffice.org-style-galaxy openoffice.org-style-tango openoffice.org-writer
  python-uno telepathy-gabble uno-libs3 ure
31 upgraded, 33 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
...



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want to use old serial mouse

[Steve Kleene]

I have a good new installation of testing (Wheezy).  I would like to use my
old three-button roll-ball serial mouse (Logitech M-MD15L) but have so far
failed.  The PC is new with an Intel i5 motherboard and a serial port.

With Lenny, it was sufficient to have this section in xorg.conf:

  Section InputDevice
  Identifier  Configured Mouse
  Driver  mouse
  Option  CorePointer
  Option  Device/dev/ttyS0
  Option  Protocol  Microsoft
  Option  Emulate3Buttons   true
  EndSection

That hasn't worked.  I also tried replacing /dev/ttyS0 with
/dev/input/mice.  I have tried the same two versions of xorg.conf with the
mouse on a serial-to-USB adapter instead of the direct serial port.  None of
these four configurations supported the serial mouse.  I'm testing while
running the fvwm window manager.  I have xserver-xorg-input-mouse installed.

In all four cases, Xorg.0.log looked about the same.  These were the only
lines with mouse in them:

  (**) |--Input Device Configured Mouse
  (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or \
'vmmouse' will be disabled.
  (WW) Disabling Configured Mouse
  (==) intel(0): Silken mouse enabled

I can post the whole file if necessary.

Connecting a modern USB mouse works and creates /dev/mouse0.  I think the old
mouse, even via the USB adapter, is not detected by udev.  At least I don't
see anything new under /dev after I plug it in.

Is there any way to get the old mouse working with Wheezy?  Thanks.


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Re: want to use old serial mouse

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:29:51 + (UTC), I wrote:

 I have a good new installation of testing (Wheezy).  I would like to use my
 old three-button roll-ball serial mouse (Logitech M-MD15L) but have so far
 failed.

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:39:00 +, Jon Dowland replied:

 Take a look at the inputattach(1) package.

and on Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:44:28 +, Leonardo Ruoso concurred:

 # aptitude --with-recommends install inputattach

Thanks!  One of the two methods in the inputattach README file worked,
namely adding this to /etc/rc.local:

  inputattach --daemon -mman /dev/ttyS0

The alternate approach mentioned in the README file, adding this to
/etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules:

  ACTION=add, KERNEL==ttyS0, RUN+=inputattach --daemon -mman %p

didn't work, but I only need one solution.  Thanks again.


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Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?

[Steve Kleene]

In my hands it was uninstallable.  With an md5sum-checked CD of this:
  Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 Squeeze - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 \
20110205-14:34
it booted, got about halfway through the install, and then started giving CD
errors.  I tried a second checked CD as well, and trying to install from a
flash drive also gave CD errors.  I filed bug report #613835.

I was able to install testing (Wheezy) from a CD and have given up on Squeeze.


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Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?

[Steve Kleene]

On 02/03/11 23:43, I wrote:
 In my hands it was uninstallable.  With an md5sum-checked CD of this:
   Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 Squeeze - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 \
 20110205-14:34
 it booted, got about halfway through the install, and then started giving CD
 errors.  I tried a second checked CD as well, and trying to install from a
 flash drive also gave CD errors.  I filed bug report #613835.

On 2011-03-02 14:11:20 GMT, Scott Ferguson replied:

 Did you just do the breadcrumb (hit enter) install?

Yes.

 did you try only the one dvd drive?

Yes.  I figured the drive was OK because it worked for installing 5.0.8 and
testing.

 I no longer have that netinst image (replaced with last nights one)- so I
 can't test it.

I also just deleted my copies.  I do still have the two CDs I made but don't
know how to regenerate the iso file from the CDs (unless a copy of the intact
iso file is on the CD; I forget).

It's been two weeks now, but as best I can recall I selected Auto-Partition
because I couldn't get Manual to work.  (I usually use Manual.)  Once Auto
was selected I could change whatever I wanted anyway.


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can't get 1280x1024 in Wheezy

[Steve Kleene]

I installed Wheezy (testing) on a new desktop with an old Viewsonic 17
monitor.  The Intel i5 DH55HC processor has an onboard VGA chip.  I want an X
display resolution of 1280x1024, which the monitor did easily under Lenny
(but with an Asus GeForce2 MX400 video card).  Now I'm getting 1024x768, and
1280x1024 is not offered as an option.

Before burying you with data, here's the question: Is there any way I can get
1280x1024 without adding a video card?

xrandr -
  Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192
  VGA1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) \
  0mm x 0mm
 1360x768   59.8
 1024x768   60.0*
 800x60060.3 56.2
 848x48060.0
 640x48059.9 59.9
  HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
  HDMI2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
  DP1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
  DP2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

Gnome shows the same five resolution choices and just one choice of refresh
rate (60 Hz).  I have the xserver-xorg-video-intel package.

lsmod output includes this:
  video  14605  1 i915
  output  1204  1 video

I have posted the output of Xorg.0.log here:
  http://syrano.acb.uc.edu/sk/Xorg.0.log

It mentions many modules, including intel and vesa.  It appears to be
trying the intel module, although I'm not sure.  Lsmod doesn't show a
module by that name, just i915.  For 1280x1024, Xorg.0.log says hsync out of
range or vrefresh out of range.

Thanks.


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Re: can't get 1280x1024 in Wheezy

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:21:01 + (UTC), I wrote:

 I installed Wheezy (testing) on a new desktop with an old Viewsonic 17
 monitor. ... I'm getting 1024x768, and 1280x1024 is not offered as an
 option.

On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:50:24 +0200, Andrei Popescu replied:

 I think you need a minimal /etc/X11/xorg.conf with the correct VertSync
 and HorizSync ranges for your monitor.

Thanks, that did the trick.  I had tried my old xorg.conf.  That failed until
I commented out the Device section for the video card that's no longer
there.  I hadn't played with xorg.conf much because I thought it was
deprecated now.

Unfortunately, my old Logitech serial mouse still doesn't work with the old
xorg.conf section:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Configured Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Device/dev/ttyS0
Option  Protocol  Microsoft
Option  Emulate3Buttons   true
EndSection

/dev/ttyS0 does exist.  Do you have any ideas on how to get that working?  (I
keep it because I don't like scroll wheels.)

Thanks again.


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