RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOLD plus COPYTO

2004-03-29 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 COPYTO or COPYFILE ?

%$^^$%**($^$##$*(*^t$%%^

Thanks for the wake up call. Boy, do I feel dumb.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] The Latest from Earthlink ??

2004-03-29 Thread Tom

Below is a copy of a message we received:


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This email address is protected by EarthLink spamBlocker. Your email message
has 
been redirected to a suspect email folder for [EMAIL PROTECTED] In
order 
for your message to be moved to this recipient's Inbox, he or she must add
your 
email address to a list of allowed senders.


Click the link below to request that [EMAIL PROTECTED] add you to
this list.


https://webmail.atl.earthlink.net/wam/[EMAIL PROTECTED]id
=1b7HJs31X3Nl3qW0

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I guess they are trying to stop spam, but it may be a pain in the arse.

Regards,
Tom
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOLD plus COPYTO

2004-03-29 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Hey, John.  How about a 3-fer test to archive messages, like so:

HIDETESTS   HOURCOPY

#Mar-23-2004 AC Testing two new features with one go.  Archive all
#   messages if sent in the hour of 11PM and give a
#   weight of none.
HOURCOPY  hour  23   23   0   0
HOURCOPY  COPYFILE d:\archive


Andrew 8)

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Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 11:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOLD plus COPYTO


 COPYTO or COPYFILE ?

%$^^$%**($^$##$*(*^t$%%^

Thanks for the wake up call. Boy, do I feel dumb.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] The Latest from Earthlink ??

2004-03-29 Thread Dave Doherty
Hi Tom-

They've been doing this for a while, and it IS a pain. It seems to be a way
of keeping an individual-level whitelist. I think this only happens once in
most cases, and that once you're approved the mail flows normally.

It's annoying to think that you've responded to someone only to find out
later that not only has the message not been delivered, the customer doesn't
even know it's waiting until you take this secondary action.

-Dave


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From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:25 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] The Latest from Earthlink ??



Below is a copy of a message we received:


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Regards,
Tom
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: %RND_SUBJECTS (This worries me!)

2004-03-29 Thread Todd Holt
I also forgot to mention that I can't contact Adrian to arrange a
whitelist (should any of our users need to send to his users) because my
messages will be blacklisted.

Todd Holt
Xidix Technologies, Inc
Las Vegas, NV USA
702.319.4349
www.xidix.com
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Hauri
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 6:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: %RND_SUBJECTS (This worries me!)

Our company blocks everything with reverse DNS entry from
*.client.comcast.net, *.rr.com, *.du.shawcable.net, *.eastlink.ca,
*.client.attbi.com,  *client2.attbi.com, *cable.wanadoo.nl,
*.de.comcast.net, *.md.comcast.net, *.tn.comcast.net, *.va.comcast.net,
*.ipt.aol.com, *.east.verizon.net, *.vie.surfer.at, *.sprint-hsd.net,
*cable.wanadoo.nl etc.

Additionallly we block everything with *-number-* (like -26-),
*.number.*,
*.cable.*,  *.pp.*, *.ip.*, *modem*, *async*, *rback*, *dyn*, *dhcp*,
*ppp*,
*dial*, *dsl* in the reverse DNS.

This blocks a lot of unwanted emails. It is rare that a reverse DNS
entry of
a legal mailserver has dsl in the name. We just had one reverse DNS
entry
that we had to whitelist: mailservers for swiftdsl.com.au. But it helped
us
to minimize the rbl lookup and speed up the mail processing.

There were some people who rang us up because they got the bounce
message
but all of them didn't have a proper reverse DNS entry for their
mailserver.

It's up to you how strict you are with blocking emails. But because we
do
not run a mail service for a lot of clients we can apply strict rules.


Adrian

-

ToadShow Pty Ltd
phone: 07 3004 7900
fax: 07 3846 1220
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.toadshow.com.au

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- Original Message -
From: marc catuogno
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:32 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: %RND_SUBJECTS (This worries me!)


I just got this e-mail and I just feel like someone is targeting my
domain
for a spam campaign.  When I hit view source, it only said test. Any
suggestions on how to block this??  I'm surprised that DUL or DYNA
didn't
catch this at all, looks like it came in though a dynamic Comcast IP not
one
of their SMTP servers.
I put prod-infinitum.com into the declude header filter with enough
weight
to hold it, but I don't think that would be enough.

Thanks - Marc




-Original Message-
From: Shella Arrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: %RND_SUBJECTS

test

Headers:
Received: from c-24-13-168-241.client.comcast.net [24.13.168.241] by
mail.prudentialrand.com
  (SMTPD32-8.05) id AED14440132; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:16:49 -0500
Received: from 18.104.180.255 by 24.13.168.241; Sun, 28 Mar 2004
11:13:22
+0100
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Shella Arrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Shella Arrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: %RND_SUBJECTS
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 13:10:22 +0300
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary=--0825904990538747225
X-Mailer: PIPEX NetMail 2.2.0-pre13
X-IP: 221.134.57.232
X-IMAIL-SPAM-VALFROM: (71565618)
X-RBL-Warning: NOABUSE: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2-18-9000]
X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[2-19-9800]
X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX:  [2-25-c800]
X-RBL-Warning: CMDSPACE: Space found in RCPT TO: command . [2-32-1]
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [24.13.168.241]
X-Declude-Spoolname: D4ed1044401323a46.SMD
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com)
for
spam.
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: NOABUSE, NOPOSTMASTER, IPNOTINMX, NOLEGITCONTENT,
CMDSPACE [9]
X-Country-Chain:
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from c-24-13-168-241.client.comcast.net
([24.13.168.241]).
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[Declude.JunkMail] Test not failed.

2004-03-29 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Below is a message that did not fail a filter test, GreyFilter3. What am I
missing that it did not get caught?

From Imail SMTPD log:

2004-03-27 08:49:39 Local7.Debug127.0.0.1   SMTPD (2AD30026)
[67.94.227.39] connect 68.164.114.3 port 3017
2004-03-27 08:49:39 Local7.Debug127.0.0.1   SMTPD (2AD30026)
[68.164.114.3] HELO srv1.eservicesforyou.net
2004-03-27 08:49:39 Local7.Debug127.0.0.1   SMTPD (2AD30026)
[68.164.114.3] MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2004-03-27 08:49:39 Local7.Debug127.0.0.1   SMTPD (2AD30026)
[68.164.114.3] RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2004-03-27 08:49:39 Local7.Debug127.0.0.1   SMTPD (2AD30026)
[68.164.114.3] F:\Spool\Db0a32ad30026f8a0.SMD 3969

Line in GreyFilter3:

HELO5   IS  srv1.eservicesforyou.net

Full Headers:

Received: from srv1.eservicesforyou.net [68.164.114.3] by
mail.eservicesforyou.net
  (SMTPD32-8.05) id A0A32AD30026; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 08:49:39 -0800
Received: from dialin-145-254-233-211.arcor-ip.net ([145.254.233.211]) by
srv1.eservicesforyou.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713);
 Sat, 27 Mar 2004 08:49:35 -0800
Received: from 64.24.88.152 by 145.254.233.211 with SMTP; Sat, 27 Mar 2004
11:49:13 -0500
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:49:13 -0500
From: Bradley Tolbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Bradley Tolbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2004 16:49:36.0975 (UTC)
FILETIME=[7D2955F0:01C4141B]
X-RBL-Warning: SORBS-DUL: Dynamic IP Address See:
http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=145.254.233.211; [2-11-5800]
X-RBL-Warning: SPAMDOMAINS: Spamdomain '@insurer.com' found: Address of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent from invalid dialin-145-254-233-211.arcor-ip.net.
[2-52-1a000]
X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCHECK: Message failed SPAMCHECK: 12. [2-54-1b000]
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [145.254.233.211]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Db0a32ad30026f8a0.SMD
X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 29
X-RBL-Warning: TESTS FAILED: SORBS-DUL, IPNOTINMX, NOLEGITCONTENT,
SPAMDOMAINS, SPAMCHECK
X-Note: This E-mail was received from RevDNS:
[dialin-145-254-233-211.arcor-ip.net]
X-Note: This E-mail was received from IP: [145.254.233.211]
X-Note: This e-mail was scanned by eServices For You for Viruses and SPAM.
X-Note: To report any issues, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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RE: [HOLD weight]RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: %RND_SUBJECTS (This worries me!)

2004-03-29 Thread marc catuogno
Actually your e-mail did hit my hold weight... maybe I should lower those
rev DNS weights I just put in..
Are you using Charters SMTP or your own?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Holt
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 12:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [HOLD weight]RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: %RND_SUBJECTS (This worries
me!)

I also forgot to mention that I can't contact Adrian to arrange a
whitelist (should any of our users need to send to his users) because my
messages will be blacklisted.

Todd Holt
Xidix Technologies, Inc
Las Vegas, NV USA
702.319.4349
www.xidix.com
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Hauri
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 6:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: %RND_SUBJECTS (This worries me!)

Our company blocks everything with reverse DNS entry from
*.client.comcast.net, *.rr.com, *.du.shawcable.net, *.eastlink.ca,
*.client.attbi.com,  *client2.attbi.com, *cable.wanadoo.nl,
*.de.comcast.net, *.md.comcast.net, *.tn.comcast.net, *.va.comcast.net,
*.ipt.aol.com, *.east.verizon.net, *.vie.surfer.at, *.sprint-hsd.net,
*cable.wanadoo.nl etc.

Additionallly we block everything with *-number-* (like -26-),
*.number.*,
*.cable.*,  *.pp.*, *.ip.*, *modem*, *async*, *rback*, *dyn*, *dhcp*,
*ppp*,
*dial*, *dsl* in the reverse DNS.

This blocks a lot of unwanted emails. It is rare that a reverse DNS
entry of
a legal mailserver has dsl in the name. We just had one reverse DNS
entry
that we had to whitelist: mailservers for swiftdsl.com.au. But it helped
us
to minimize the rbl lookup and speed up the mail processing.

There were some people who rang us up because they got the bounce
message
but all of them didn't have a proper reverse DNS entry for their
mailserver.

It's up to you how strict you are with blocking emails. But because we
do
not run a mail service for a lot of clients we can apply strict rules.


Adrian

-

ToadShow Pty Ltd
phone: 07 3004 7900
fax: 07 3846 1220
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.toadshow.com.au

-
- Original Message -
From: marc catuogno
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:32 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: %RND_SUBJECTS (This worries me!)


I just got this e-mail and I just feel like someone is targeting my
domain
for a spam campaign.  When I hit view source, it only said test. Any
suggestions on how to block this??  I'm surprised that DUL or DYNA
didn't
catch this at all, looks like it came in though a dynamic Comcast IP not
one
of their SMTP servers.
I put prod-infinitum.com into the declude header filter with enough
weight
to hold it, but I don't think that would be enough.

Thanks - Marc




-Original Message-
From: Shella Arrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: %RND_SUBJECTS

test

Headers:
Received: from c-24-13-168-241.client.comcast.net [24.13.168.241] by
mail.prudentialrand.com
  (SMTPD32-8.05) id AED14440132; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:16:49 -0500
Received: from 18.104.180.255 by 24.13.168.241; Sun, 28 Mar 2004
11:13:22
+0100
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Shella Arrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Shella Arrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: %RND_SUBJECTS
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 13:10:22 +0300
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary=--0825904990538747225
X-Mailer: PIPEX NetMail 2.2.0-pre13
X-IP: 221.134.57.232
X-IMAIL-SPAM-VALFROM: (71565618)
X-RBL-Warning: NOABUSE: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2-18-9000]
X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[2-19-9800]
X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX:  [2-25-c800]
X-RBL-Warning: CMDSPACE: Space found in RCPT TO: command . [2-32-1]
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [24.13.168.241]
X-Declude-Spoolname: D4ed1044401323a46.SMD
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com)
for
spam.
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: NOABUSE, NOPOSTMASTER, IPNOTINMX, NOLEGITCONTENT,
CMDSPACE [9]
X-Country-Chain:
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from c-24-13-168-241.client.comcast.net
([24.13.168.241]).
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [HOLD weight]RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: %RND_SUBJECTS (This worries me!)

2004-03-29 Thread Todd Holt
We use IMail 7.15 on a static IP (in fact we have a block of static IPs)
from MPower, but they will not delegate or customize the RDNS entries
for any customers.  As I know from many previous threads, this is VERY
common among ISPs.  Not having an RDNS entry is a very reliable measure
of SPAM, but if it exists, the text of the entry is not reliable.

This is why I suggest not giving the type of RDNS entry much
credibility, but certainly check if the RDNS exists!!


Todd Holt
Xidix Technologies, Inc
Las Vegas, NV USA
702.319.4349
www.xidix.com
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of marc catuogno
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [HOLD weight]RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: %RND_SUBJECTS (This
worries me!)

Actually your e-mail did hit my hold weight... maybe I should lower
those
rev DNS weights I just put in..
Are you using Charters SMTP or your own?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Holt
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 12:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [HOLD weight]RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: %RND_SUBJECTS (This
worries
me!)

I also forgot to mention that I can't contact Adrian to arrange a
whitelist (should any of our users need to send to his users) because my
messages will be blacklisted.

Todd Holt
Xidix Technologies, Inc
Las Vegas, NV USA
702.319.4349
www.xidix.com
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Hauri
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 6:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: %RND_SUBJECTS (This worries me!)

Our company blocks everything with reverse DNS entry from
*.client.comcast.net, *.rr.com, *.du.shawcable.net, *.eastlink.ca,
*.client.attbi.com,  *client2.attbi.com, *cable.wanadoo.nl,
*.de.comcast.net, *.md.comcast.net, *.tn.comcast.net, *.va.comcast.net,
*.ipt.aol.com, *.east.verizon.net, *.vie.surfer.at, *.sprint-hsd.net,
*cable.wanadoo.nl etc.

Additionallly we block everything with *-number-* (like -26-),
*.number.*,
*.cable.*,  *.pp.*, *.ip.*, *modem*, *async*, *rback*, *dyn*, *dhcp*,
*ppp*,
*dial*, *dsl* in the reverse DNS.

This blocks a lot of unwanted emails. It is rare that a reverse DNS
entry of
a legal mailserver has dsl in the name. We just had one reverse DNS
entry
that we had to whitelist: mailservers for swiftdsl.com.au. But it helped
us
to minimize the rbl lookup and speed up the mail processing.

There were some people who rang us up because they got the bounce
message
but all of them didn't have a proper reverse DNS entry for their
mailserver.

It's up to you how strict you are with blocking emails. But because we
do
not run a mail service for a lot of clients we can apply strict rules.


Adrian

-

ToadShow Pty Ltd
phone: 07 3004 7900
fax: 07 3846 1220
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.toadshow.com.au

-
- Original Message -
From: marc catuogno
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:32 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: %RND_SUBJECTS (This worries me!)


I just got this e-mail and I just feel like someone is targeting my
domain
for a spam campaign.  When I hit view source, it only said test. Any
suggestions on how to block this??  I'm surprised that DUL or DYNA
didn't
catch this at all, looks like it came in though a dynamic Comcast IP not
one
of their SMTP servers.
I put prod-infinitum.com into the declude header filter with enough
weight
to hold it, but I don't think that would be enough.

Thanks - Marc




-Original Message-
From: Shella Arrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: %RND_SUBJECTS

test

Headers:
Received: from c-24-13-168-241.client.comcast.net [24.13.168.241] by
mail.prudentialrand.com
  (SMTPD32-8.05) id AED14440132; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:16:49 -0500
Received: from 18.104.180.255 by 24.13.168.241; Sun, 28 Mar 2004
11:13:22
+0100
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: %RND_SUBJECTS (This worries me!)

2004-03-29 Thread Sheldon Koehler
 here is also a list of rbl's that we trust and directly bounce:
 (most of them are spam traps, open relay lists or filters by country so
you
 should be safe)

What if we get a lot of legit email from these countries?


Sheldon


Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com
Ten Forward Communications   360-457-9023
Nationwide access, neighborhood support!

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time
to pause and reflect. Mark Twain


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[Declude.JunkMail] e-commerce counter weights

2004-03-29 Thread Technical Support



Most of my false 
positives are coming from e-commerce sites, where automatic email are generated 
after an order has been placed. What sort of counter weighting do you guys 
use to balance out these types of messages? I can't decide on anything to 
identify these types of messages with that spammers don't already try to 
fake. Any help would be much appreciated.


Thank you for making YourNET 
Connection your connection to the world

Jim O'Keefe Technical 
Support @YourNET Connection, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 




Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Test not failed.

2004-03-29 Thread R. Scott Perry

Below is a message that did not fail a filter test, GreyFilter3. What am I
missing that it did not get caught?
Line in GreyFilter3:

HELO5   IS  srv1.eservicesforyou.net

Full Headers:

Received: from srv1.eservicesforyou.net [68.164.114.3] by
mail.eservicesforyou.net
  (SMTPD32-8.05) id A0A32AD30026; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 08:49:39 -0800
It looks like this should have been caught.  Are there any spaces/tabs at 
the end of the line in the filter file?  Is that the last line on the file 
(if so, the cursor needs to be able to go to the line below it, by hitting 
ENTER at the end of the line if necessary)?

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] e-commerce counter weights

2004-03-29 Thread Darin Cox



We just use a negative weight list, and add new 
domains to the list as needed. Note that it's not a good idea to have any 
of your hosted domain in the negative weight list, or ISP domains such as aol, 
yahoo, msn, etc. as you'll just end up letting a lot of spam through that 
way.

NEGATIVEWEIGHTLISTfromfile 
F:\IMail\Declude\negativeweight.txt x -25 0
We also use a "positive weight list", which is 
probably a misnomer since it add to the spam weighta better name would 
probably be greylist. We add known spam domains to this list. 
Similar to a blacklist, but we only add enough weight to hold on the greylist, 
while the blacklist has enough weight to delete.

POSITIVEWEIGHTLISTfromfile 
F:\IMail\Declude\positiveweight.txt x 20 0
You'll probably want to adjust the weights to match 
your scale. We use the positive weight to put it just into the hold range, 
while the negative weight would take an email from the middle of the hold range 
down to zero.
Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Technical Support 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:35 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] e-commerce counter weights

Most of my false 
positives are coming from e-commerce sites, where automatic email are generated 
after an order has been placed. What sort of counter weighting do you guys 
use to balance out these types of messages? I can't decide on anything to 
identify these types of messages with that spammers don't already try to 
fake. Any help would be much appreciated.


Thank you for making YourNET 
Connection your connection to the world

Jim O'Keefe Technical 
Support @YourNET Connection, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 




RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test not failed.

2004-03-29 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 It looks like this should have been caught.  Are there any spaces/tabs at
 the end of the line in the filter file?  Is that the last line on the file
 (if so, the cursor needs to be able to go to the line below it, by hitting
 ENTER at the end of the line if necessary)?

Bingo. Was the last line and I forgot to create another line underneath.

Thanks.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] e-commerce counter weights

2004-03-29 Thread Nick Hayer
On 29 Mar 2004 at 14:35, Technical Support wrote:

  What
 sort of counter weighting do you guys use to balance out these types
 of messages?  I can't decide on anything to identify these types of
 messages with that spammers don't already try to fake.  Any help would
 be much appreciated.
As Darin responded you should use a negative weighted filter. I call mine 
compensatory.txt
In it include REVDNS, CONTAINS, MAILFROM, etc. from the false 
positives that will counter weight the spam scores. As far a phrase 
that you could add for a BODY tag kinda hard. But they may work for 
you like 'Order shipped' , etc.

I make compensatory.txt the first filter in global.cfg also; to be 
sure SKIPIFWEIGHT feature is used in the other filter files.

-Nick Hayer


 
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Store and Forward - Outgoing Actions

2004-03-29 Thread Paul Fuhrmeister
Wesetup Store and Forward (Imail 8.05, Declude JunkMail Pro) and everything
seems to work correctly. 

But, The manual and archives talk about Outgoing Actions. 

We have a declude/domainname.com directory with a $default$.junkmail file.
Do those tests get performed on the outbound email or is there something
special to make them outgoing tests?

Is Declude JunkMail testing ALL of my outgoing email? I don't think I want
it to, just store and forward email.


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Store and Forward - Outgoing Actions

2004-03-29 Thread R. Scott Perry

Wesetup Store and Forward (Imail 8.05, Declude JunkMail Pro) and everything
seems to work correctly.
But, The manual and archives talk about Outgoing Actions.

We have a declude/domainname.com directory with a $default$.junkmail file.
Do those tests get performed on the outbound email or is there something
special to make them outgoing tests?
When an E-mail arrives, Declude JunkMail will use the configuration file(s) 
for the recipients, not the senders.  For E-mail where a recipient is not 
local, Declude JunkMail will use the outgoing actions, which are the ones 
in the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file.

The \IMail\Declude\example.com\$default$.JunkMail file will be used for 
E-mail *to* an @example.com user, but not for an E-mail *from* 
an  @example.com user.

The outgoing E-mail settings are global, and cannot be changed per domain.

Is Declude JunkMail testing ALL of my outgoing email? I don't think I want
it to, just store and forward email.
In this case, you can have per-domain settings for those domains.  Then, 
the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file can be set up to use the IGNORE 
action.  That way, regular outgoing E-mail will not be scanned -- but 
E-mail to the store-and-forward domains will be scanned (even though they 
would otherwise be treated as outgoing E-mail, the per-domain config file 
takes priority).

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Store and Forward - Outgoing Actions

2004-03-29 Thread Paul Fuhrmeister
Thanks Scott.

I think I understand. I guess I'll wait and see what happens.  

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When an E-mail arrives, Declude JunkMail will use the configuration file(s)
for the recipients, not the senders.  For E-mail where a recipient is not
local, Declude JunkMail will use the outgoing actions, which are the ones in
the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file.

The \IMail\Declude\example.com\$default$.JunkMail file will be used for
E-mail *to* an @example.com user, but not for an E-mail *from* 
an  @example.com user.

The outgoing E-mail settings are global, and cannot be changed per domain.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Crazy Characters

2004-03-29 Thread Dan Patnode
Has anyone noticed these yet:

Subject: Lower  your monthly  payment today !


Between the words are space like characters that aren't spaces.  I can only
view them using symbol or dingbat fonts and my email client can't even
search for them in a folder of messages.  I'm inclined to make a filter for
them, but I don't know how Declude will react.

Scott, please advise,

Dan

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[Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments

2004-03-29 Thread Kevin
Hi,

Tried searching mail-archive.com for these but didn't turn up anything.

Subject: pass on the fun [random subjects]
Body: This message has attach [random too]
[random attachments but always ends in .htm]
I didn't open it with IE but with a text editor.

Starts with script language=JavaScriptcontractions = new Array(162, 
[whole bunch of numbers]

ends with

charters = 907;
beetle = 243;
var equal = ;
for(bowl = 0; bowl  charters; bowl++)
  equal = equal + String.fromCharCode(contractions[bowl] ^ 
preferential[bowl % beetle]);
document.write(equal);
/script

Sniffer catches these under rule 62 (Experimental) but it's not enough to 
hold these.

Any ideas? What does one see when they view this under IE?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments

2004-03-29 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Yes, I have been seeing them too. They are java scripts that run. Definitly
spam.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
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 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments
 
 Hi,
 
 Tried searching mail-archive.com for these but didn't turn up anything.
 
 Subject: pass on the fun [random subjects]
 Body: This message has attach [random too]
 [random attachments but always ends in .htm]
 
 I didn't open it with IE but with a text editor.
 
 Starts with script language=JavaScriptcontractions = new Array(162,
 [whole bunch of numbers]
 
 ends with
 
 charters = 907;
 beetle = 243;
 var equal = ;
 for(bowl = 0; bowl  charters; bowl++)
equal = equal + String.fromCharCode(contractions[bowl] ^
 preferential[bowl % beetle]);
 document.write(equal);
 /script
 
 Sniffer catches these under rule 62 (Experimental) but it's not enough to
 hold these.
 
 Any ideas? What does one see when they view this under IE?
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments

2004-03-29 Thread Glenn Brooks
Has anyone set up a filter to catch thesewe get a lot of them...

gb

At 04:41 PM 3/29/2004 -0800, you wrote:
Yes, I have been seeing them too. They are java scripts that run. Definitly
spam.
John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You
 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
 Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:37 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments

 Hi,

 Tried searching mail-archive.com for these but didn't turn up anything.

 Subject: pass on the fun [random subjects]
 Body: This message has attach [random too]
 [random attachments but always ends in .htm]

 I didn't open it with IE but with a text editor.

 Starts with script language=JavaScriptcontractions = new Array(162,
 [whole bunch of numbers]

 ends with

 charters = 907;
 beetle = 243;
 var equal = ;
 for(bowl = 0; bowl  charters; bowl++)
equal = equal + String.fromCharCode(contractions[bowl] ^
 preferential[bowl % beetle]);
 document.write(equal);
 /script

 Sniffer catches these under rule 62 (Experimental) but it's not enough to
 hold these.

 Any ideas? What does one see when they view this under IE?


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Crazy Characters

2004-03-29 Thread R. Scott Perry

Between the words are space like characters that aren't spaces.  I can only
view them using symbol or dingbat fonts and my email client can't even
search for them in a folder of messages.  I'm inclined to make a filter for
them, but I don't know how Declude will react.
Those are high bit (8-bit) characters.  Versions of Declude JunkMail v1.70 
and later will properly process those characters in filters (previous 
versions would not be able to handle them properly in filters).

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Crazy Characters

2004-03-29 Thread Dan Patnode
Nice.


 From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 20:10:52 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Crazy Characters
 
 
 Between the words are space like characters that aren't spaces.  I can only
 view them using symbol or dingbat fonts and my email client can't even
 search for them in a folder of messages.  I'm inclined to make a filter for
 them, but I don't know how Declude will react.
 
 Those are high bit (8-bit) characters.  Versions of Declude JunkMail v1.70
 and later will properly process those characters in filters (previous
 versions would not be able to handle them properly in filters).
 
   -Scott
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