Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond
I blocked them years ago after they ignored hundreds of spam complaints. I've had one person complain and since she is an employee I told her to have it sent to her hotmail account. David Daniels Administrator Starfish Internet Service [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Glen Harvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 1:04 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond ha ha ha send them an email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll all have a giggle :-) good luck and happy hunting. better still - just blacklist them and you'll wipe out 75% of all emails coming from down under :-) _ Glen Harvy Aquarius Communications for all your Internet Needs. Phone 9977 3788 Fax 9977 3844 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, 13 January 2004 12:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond Then they better clean up their act and take are hardball stance on all spam flowing through their servers. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glen Harvy Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond Importance: High Hi, I suspect they most certainly will - legal action that is. Bigpond is 51% Australian Government owned and the rest is listed on the sharemarket. They are Australia's largest internet provider capturing over 70% of the market. They have a monopoly via Telstra - Australia's largest telephone company. They have a similar attitude to Microsoft - sue first and negotiate later. _ Glen Harvy Aquarius Communications for all your Internet Needs. Phone 9977 3788 Fax 9977 3844 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, 13 January 2004 04:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond I was just going to say, almost all of those IP addresses are from the same ISP in Australia. If we want to play hardball, block all the IPs, and then the ISP will have to take action. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 9:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond Let me correct something. BigPond.com isn't a spam house, they are a DSL provider in Australia. They however have a large number of mail servers that consistently relay spam. It's almost like they are hosting spammers, and have them relay through their own servers instead of direct delivery. There's a ton of it. I'm not sure what to do about this situation. Maybe someone else has some ideas. Matt Matt wrote: John, Looks like a spam house to me. http://www.senderbase.org/search?searchString=bigpond.com Block by IP. Google shows that they've used different domains from these blocks, and the REVDNS entry could be gone tomorrow. Use Scott's CIDR tool if you are uncertain about the ranges. Dig through surrounding blocks with reverse DNS to see if there are even larger blocks present. Lastly, report your findings to the board :) Matt John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: Is there legit e-mail that comes from Bigpond mail servers, or can I heavily weight REVDNS ENDSWITH .bigpond.com? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ = --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond
John, Looks like a spam house to me. http://www.senderbase.org/search?searchString=bigpond.com Block by IP. Google shows that they've used different domains from these blocks, and the REVDNS entry could be gone tomorrow. Use Scott's CIDR tool if you are uncertain about the ranges. Dig through surrounding blocks with reverse DNS to see if there are even larger blocks present. Lastly, report your findings to the board :) Matt John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: Is there legit e-mail that comes from Bigpond mail servers, or can I heavily weight REVDNS ENDSWITH .bigpond.com? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ = --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond
Let me correct something. BigPond.com isn't a spam house, they are a DSL provider in Australia. They however have a large number of mail servers that consistently relay spam. It's almost like they are hosting spammers, and have them relay through their own servers instead of direct delivery. There's a ton of it. I'm not sure what to do about this situation. Maybe someone else has some ideas. Matt Matt wrote: John, Looks like a spam house to me. http://www.senderbase.org/search?searchString=bigpond.com Block by IP. Google shows that they've used different domains from these blocks, and the REVDNS entry could be gone tomorrow. Use Scott's CIDR tool if you are uncertain about the ranges. Dig through surrounding blocks with reverse DNS to see if there are even larger blocks present. Lastly, report your findings to the board :) Matt John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: Is there legit e-mail that comes from Bigpond mail servers, or can I heavily weight REVDNS ENDSWITH .bigpond.com? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ = --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond
Is there legit e-mail that comes from Bigpond mail servers, or can I heavily weight REVDNS ENDSWITH .bigpond.com? I believe that they are a large ISP in Australia -- we have two samples of legitimate E-mails with @bigpond.com return addresses. I think they should be treated like large U.S. cable/DSL providers. You may get legitimate mail from their mailservers. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond
I was just going to say, almost all of those IP addresses are from the same ISP in Australia. If we want to play hardball, block all the IPs, and then the ISP will have to take action. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 9:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond Let me correct something. BigPond.com isn't a spam house, they are a DSL provider in Australia. They however have a large number of mail servers that consistently relay spam. It's almost like they are hosting spammers, and have them relay through their own servers instead of direct delivery. There's a ton of it. I'm not sure what to do about this situation. Maybe someone else has some ideas. Matt Matt wrote: John, Looks like a spam house to me. http://www.senderbase.org/search?searchString=bigpond.com Block by IP. Google shows that they've used different domains from these blocks, and the REVDNS entry could be gone tomorrow. Use Scott's CIDR tool if you are uncertain about the ranges. Dig through surrounding blocks with reverse DNS to see if there are even larger blocks present. Lastly, report your findings to the board :) Matt John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: Is there legit e-mail that comes from Bigpond mail servers, or can I heavily weight REVDNS ENDSWITH .bigpond.com? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ = --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond
All the ones I saw did not have a @bigpond.com from address, only the REVDNS was big pond. For now, I have set REVDNS 15 ENDSWITH .bigpond.com. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 9:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond Is there legit e-mail that comes from Bigpond mail servers, or can I heavily weight REVDNS ENDSWITH .bigpond.com? I believe that they are a large ISP in Australia -- we have two samples of legitimate E-mails with @bigpond.com return addresses. I think they should be treated like large U.S. cable/DSL providers. You may get legitimate mail from their mailservers. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond
Hi, I suspect they most certainly will - legal action that is. Bigpond is 51% Australian Government owned and the rest is listed on the sharemarket. They are Australia's largest internet provider capturing over 70% of the market. They have a monopoly via Telstra - Australia's largest telephone company. They have a similar attitude to Microsoft - sue first and negotiate later. _ Glen Harvy Aquarius Communications for all your Internet Needs. Phone 9977 3788 Fax 9977 3844 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, 13 January 2004 04:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond I was just going to say, almost all of those IP addresses are from the same ISP in Australia. If we want to play hardball, block all the IPs, and then the ISP will have to take action. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 9:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond Let me correct something. BigPond.com isn't a spam house, they are a DSL provider in Australia. They however have a large number of mail servers that consistently relay spam. It's almost like they are hosting spammers, and have them relay through their own servers instead of direct delivery. There's a ton of it. I'm not sure what to do about this situation. Maybe someone else has some ideas. Matt Matt wrote: John, Looks like a spam house to me. http://www.senderbase.org/search?searchString=bigpond.com Block by IP. Google shows that they've used different domains from these blocks, and the REVDNS entry could be gone tomorrow. Use Scott's CIDR tool if you are uncertain about the ranges. Dig through surrounding blocks with reverse DNS to see if there are even larger blocks present. Lastly, report your findings to the board :) Matt John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: Is there legit e-mail that comes from Bigpond mail servers, or can I heavily weight REVDNS ENDSWITH .bigpond.com? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ = --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond
Then they better clean up their act and take are hardball stance on all spam flowing through their servers. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glen Harvy Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond Importance: High Hi, I suspect they most certainly will - legal action that is. Bigpond is 51% Australian Government owned and the rest is listed on the sharemarket. They are Australia's largest internet provider capturing over 70% of the market. They have a monopoly via Telstra - Australia's largest telephone company. They have a similar attitude to Microsoft - sue first and negotiate later. _ Glen Harvy Aquarius Communications for all your Internet Needs. Phone 9977 3788 Fax 9977 3844 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, 13 January 2004 04:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond I was just going to say, almost all of those IP addresses are from the same ISP in Australia. If we want to play hardball, block all the IPs, and then the ISP will have to take action. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 9:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond Let me correct something. BigPond.com isn't a spam house, they are a DSL provider in Australia. They however have a large number of mail servers that consistently relay spam. It's almost like they are hosting spammers, and have them relay through their own servers instead of direct delivery. There's a ton of it. I'm not sure what to do about this situation. Maybe someone else has some ideas. Matt Matt wrote: John, Looks like a spam house to me. http://www.senderbase.org/search?searchString=bigpond.com Block by IP. Google shows that they've used different domains from these blocks, and the REVDNS entry could be gone tomorrow. Use Scott's CIDR tool if you are uncertain about the ranges. Dig through surrounding blocks with reverse DNS to see if there are even larger blocks present. Lastly, report your findings to the board :) Matt John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: Is there legit e-mail that comes from Bigpond mail servers, or can I heavily weight REVDNS ENDSWITH .bigpond.com? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ = --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond
ha ha ha send them an email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll all have a giggle :-) good luck and happy hunting. better still - just blacklist them and you'll wipe out 75% of all emails coming from down under :-) _ Glen Harvy Aquarius Communications for all your Internet Needs. Phone 9977 3788 Fax 9977 3844 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, 13 January 2004 12:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond Then they better clean up their act and take are hardball stance on all spam flowing through their servers. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glen Harvy Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond Importance: High Hi, I suspect they most certainly will - legal action that is. Bigpond is 51% Australian Government owned and the rest is listed on the sharemarket. They are Australia's largest internet provider capturing over 70% of the market. They have a monopoly via Telstra - Australia's largest telephone company. They have a similar attitude to Microsoft - sue first and negotiate later. _ Glen Harvy Aquarius Communications for all your Internet Needs. Phone 9977 3788 Fax 9977 3844 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, 13 January 2004 04:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond I was just going to say, almost all of those IP addresses are from the same ISP in Australia. If we want to play hardball, block all the IPs, and then the ISP will have to take action. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 9:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bigpond Let me correct something. BigPond.com isn't a spam house, they are a DSL provider in Australia. They however have a large number of mail servers that consistently relay spam. It's almost like they are hosting spammers, and have them relay through their own servers instead of direct delivery. There's a ton of it. I'm not sure what to do about this situation. Maybe someone else has some ideas. Matt Matt wrote: John, Looks like a spam house to me. http://www.senderbase.org/search?searchString=bigpond.com Block by IP. Google shows that they've used different domains from these blocks, and the REVDNS entry could be gone tomorrow. Use Scott's CIDR tool if you are uncertain about the ranges. Dig through surrounding blocks with reverse DNS to see if there are even larger blocks present. Lastly, report your findings to the board :) Matt John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: Is there legit e-mail that comes from Bigpond mail servers, or can I heavily weight REVDNS ENDSWITH .bigpond.com? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ = --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing
