Powered by icon for httpd-2.4 needs update

2012-10-02 Thread Jan Kaluža

Hi,

I'm not sure who has done original ./docs/icons/apache_pb2.* icons, but 
I think they should be updated to show 2.4 version for httpd-2.4. We are 
using that icon in default index.html in Fedora and it would be really 
nice to see version 2.4 there instead of 2.2.


I can probably try to fix the icon myself, but I'm pretty bad at 
graphic, so I hope the original author still reads this mailing list.


Regards,
Jan Kaluza


Re: Powered by icon for httpd-2.4 needs update

2012-10-02 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 10/02/2012 01:01 PM, Jan Kaluža wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm not sure who has done original ./docs/icons/apache_pb2.* icons, but
 I think they should be updated to show 2.4 version for httpd-2.4. We are
 using that icon in default index.html in Fedora and it would be really
 nice to see version 2.4 there instead of 2.2.
 
 I can probably try to fix the icon myself, but I'm pretty bad at
 graphic, so I hope the original author still reads this mailing list.
 
 Regards,
 Jan Kaluza
Yes, this does seem to be something that needs fixing.
I'm not the original author (t'was way before my time, back in 1999),
but what I can do is approximate the original logo (I don't know which
fonts were originally used) and create an SVG version of the powered-by
logo:

SVG version: http://www.humbedooh.com/apache/poweredby.svg
PNG version: http://www.humbedooh.com/apache/poweredby.png

The SVG version uses the new feather instead of the old, but that
should really only be a plus, since we'll have a logo we can maintain
and reproduce as we see fit.

If people are content with this suggestion, I can turn it into png/gif
images and put them in the docs folder in trunk as well as the svg
version. Or if the original author still has the original material,
he/she can make the necessary changes, I'm fine with whichever it is.

With regards,
Daniel.


Re: Powered by icon for httpd-2.4 needs update

2012-10-02 Thread Jan Kaluža

On 10/02/2012 01:41 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:

On 10/02/2012 01:01 PM, Jan Kaluža wrote:

Hi,

I'm not sure who has done original ./docs/icons/apache_pb2.* icons, but
I think they should be updated to show 2.4 version for httpd-2.4. We are
using that icon in default index.html in Fedora and it would be really
nice to see version 2.4 there instead of 2.2.

I can probably try to fix the icon myself, but I'm pretty bad at
graphic, so I hope the original author still reads this mailing list.

Regards,
Jan Kaluza

Yes, this does seem to be something that needs fixing.
I'm not the original author (t'was way before my time, back in 1999),
but what I can do is approximate the original logo (I don't know which
fonts were originally used) and create an SVG version of the powered-by
logo:

SVG version: http://www.humbedooh.com/apache/poweredby.svg
PNG version: http://www.humbedooh.com/apache/poweredby.png


This looks great, thanks.


The SVG version uses the new feather instead of the old, but that
should really only be a plus, since we'll have a logo we can maintain
and reproduce as we see fit.

If people are content with this suggestion, I can turn it into png/gif
images and put them in the docs folder in trunk as well as the svg
version. Or if the original author still has the original material,
he/she can make the necessary changes, I'm fine with whichever it is.

With regards,
Daniel.



Regards,
Jan Kaluza



Re: Powered by icon for httpd-2.4 needs update

2012-10-02 Thread Gregg Smith

On 10/2/2012 4:41 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote:

Yes, this does seem to be something that needs fixing.
If people are content with this suggestion, I can turn it into png/gif
images and put them in the docs folder in trunk as well as the svg
version. Or if the original author still has the original material,
he/she can make the necessary changes, I'm fine with whichever it is.



Been there, done that, have it still. What stopped it then was the font. 
What license is the font under.

It begs me to ask what the license of the font currently in use is.

So this leads me to again ask the question, what font license is acceptable?

I can get plenty close with a font from the Open Font Library, it is 
licensed under the SIL Open Font License 1.1

http://scripts.sil.org/OFL

There is only one ugly blog font licensed under the Apache 2.0 License 
that I have found.

So if we are going to hold out for the AL2.0, we should be fontless.

Regards,
Gregg



Re: Powered by icon for httpd-2.4 needs update

2012-10-02 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 10/02/2012 01:56 PM, Gregg Smith wrote:
 On 10/2/2012 4:41 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
 Yes, this does seem to be something that needs fixing.
 If people are content with this suggestion, I can turn it into png/gif
 images and put them in the docs folder in trunk as well as the svg
 version. Or if the original author still has the original material,
 he/she can make the necessary changes, I'm fine with whichever it is.

 
 Been there, done that, have it still. What stopped it then was the font.
 What license is the font under.
 It begs me to ask what the license of the font currently in use is.
 
 So this leads me to again ask the question, what font license is
 acceptable?
 
 I can get plenty close with a font from the Open Font Library, it is
 licensed under the SIL Open Font License 1.1
 http://scripts.sil.org/OFL
 
 There is only one ugly blog font licensed under the Apache 2.0 License
 that I have found.
 So if we are going to hold out for the AL2.0, we should be fontless.
 
 Regards,
 Gregg
 
Righto, ASL getting in the way ;)
I have updated my suggestion for a powered-by logo using only ASL stuff:
Powered by and 2.4 is done with Droid Sans, which is using ASL
Apache is done with Syncopate, which is also using ASL.

Take a look and see if the result is close enough for jazz,
http://www.humbedooh.com/apache/poweredby.svg

With regards,
Daniel.


Re: Powered by icon for httpd-2.4 needs update

2012-10-02 Thread Gregg Smith

On 10/2/2012 5:41 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote:

Righto, ASL getting in the way ;)
I have updated my suggestion for a powered-by logo using only ASL stuff:
Powered by and 2.4 is done with Droid Sans, which is using ASL
Apache is done with Syncopate, which is also using ASL.

Take a look and see if the result is close enough for jazz,
http://www.humbedooh.com/apache/poweredby.svg


That's great Dan +1
+1 to a png that's as close to the 259x32 size like the 2.2 one too.

Might I ask where the feather came from, that is a nice bold one.

Regards,
Gregg


Re: Powered by icon for httpd-2.4 needs update

2012-10-02 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 10/02/2012 03:42 PM, Gregg Smith wrote:
 On 10/2/2012 5:41 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
 Righto, ASL getting in the way ;)
 I have updated my suggestion for a powered-by logo using only ASL stuff:
 Powered by and 2.4 is done with Droid Sans, which is using ASL
 Apache is done with Syncopate, which is also using ASL.

 Take a look and see if the result is close enough for jazz,
 http://www.humbedooh.com/apache/poweredby.svg
 
 That's great Dan +1
 +1 to a png that's as close to the 259x32 size like the 2.2 one too.
 
 Might I ask where the feather came from, that is a nice bold one.
 
 Regards,
 Gregg
The feather came from Apache's press kit;
http://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/feather_logo_RGB.svg

I can do a 260x30, I hope that's close enough :)

If there are no objections, I'll create the various png/gif versions and
commit them to trunk later today.

With regards,
Daniel.


Re: 2.0.65

2012-10-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
Any others with time to look thru 2.0.65's STATUS file.
There are a handful of showstoppers that I'm thinking
about deferring and pushing ahead with the 2.0.65 release.

On Oct 1, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:

 I can't recall either, but doing so in conjunction with
 the 2.0.65 release likely makes sense.
 
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Daniel Ruggeri drugg...@primary.net wrote:
 
 On 9/30/2012 10:30 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
 There was an email on users@httpd that reminded me that 2.0.65 has
 been long left in a holding pattern.
 
 Anyone opposed to me pushing for a 2.0.65 release by the
 end of this week?
 
 No opposition, but this does remind me about the when-will-2.0-be-EOL
 conversation. I think consensus was 1 year after the first 2.4 release
 but I don't think I've seen such an announcement (I could have just
 missed it, too).
 
 -- 
 Daniel Ruggeri
 
 



Re: 2.0.65

2012-10-02 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
 Any others with time to look thru 2.0.65's STATUS file.
 There are a handful of showstoppers that I'm thinking
 about deferring and pushing ahead with the 2.0.65 release.

I'll try to find a little time.

My 2 cents (which I won't throw at any group of 3 that wants to put
out a 2.0.nnn): I don't think we should defer anything.  Given the
lack of time+interest, IMO the only 2.0.x after 2.0.65 should be to
resolve unintended regressions introduced with 2.0.65, and bugs left
unfixed in 2.0.65 can remain.  Then we wash our hands of it.


 On Oct 1, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:

 I can't recall either, but doing so in conjunction with
 the 2.0.65 release likely makes sense.

 On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Daniel Ruggeri drugg...@primary.net wrote:

 On 9/30/2012 10:30 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
 There was an email on users@httpd that reminded me that 2.0.65 has
 been long left in a holding pattern.

 Anyone opposed to me pushing for a 2.0.65 release by the
 end of this week?

 No opposition, but this does remind me about the when-will-2.0-be-EOL
 conversation. I think consensus was 1 year after the first 2.4 release
 but I don't think I've seen such an announcement (I could have just
 missed it, too).

 --
 Daniel Ruggeri






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Re: 2.0.65

2012-10-02 Thread Eric Covener
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Jeff Trawick traw...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
 Any others with time to look thru 2.0.65's STATUS file.
 There are a handful of showstoppers that I'm thinking
 about deferring and pushing ahead with the 2.0.65 release.

 I'll try to find a little time.

 My 2 cents (which I won't throw at any group of 3 that wants to put
 out a 2.0.nnn): I don't think we should defer anything.  Given the
 lack of time+interest, IMO the only 2.0.x after 2.0.65 should be to
 resolve unintended regressions introduced with 2.0.65, and bugs left
 unfixed in 2.0.65 can remain.  Then we wash our hands of it.

+1 and will try to look as well this week.


Re: 2.0.65

2012-10-02 Thread Jim Jagielski

On Oct 2, 2012, at 1:24 PM, Jeff Trawick traw...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
 Any others with time to look thru 2.0.65's STATUS file.
 There are a handful of showstoppers that I'm thinking
 about deferring and pushing ahead with the 2.0.65 release.
 
 I'll try to find a little time.
 
 My 2 cents (which I won't throw at any group of 3 that wants to put
 out a 2.0.nnn): I don't think we should defer anything.

Yeah, I hear ya, and I tend to agree. I'm just less than
hopeful that we'll get enough people working on the remaining
stopper to resolve them...



Re: Accessing environment variables set by other modules

2012-10-02 Thread Christoph Gröver

Hello Jeff,

 Sometimes envvars are set directly into subprocess_env (e.g., handling
 of SetEnv/SetEnvIf).  IOW, subprocess_env is the primary
 representation.
 
 But the REMOTE_USER and HTTP request header variables are a
 representation of information stored elsewhere (r-user,
 r-headers_in), and that envvar representation is created just before
 running an external process.
 
 A module should always look at the primary representation, in this
 case r-user.

Thank you for these statements. Will just use r-user now.

Thankful greetings.

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