Re: [OpenLayers-Dev] SVG viewbox problem with minScale

2008-07-29 Thread Eric Lemoine
Hi. Still i'm not convinced the problem is related to the pixel limit.
When the layer is back to in range i tend to think that this.left and
this.top should be reset to zero, which isn't the case today because
from the renderer perspective it's like resolution has never changed.
One way to solve this would be to have the layer pass the renderer the
zoomChanged boolean value when calling setExtent, and have the
renderer rely on that value to know whether resolution's changed.
Although this will probably work in the going back in range
situation, i'm not sure it'll work in the going back to visible
situation, which must also be dealt with. Unless setVisibility(true)
does pass zoomChanged=true to the layer moveTo call. This to be check,
which i cant do at the moment. Regards. Eric

2008/7/28, Alexandre Dube [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Eric,

   The location is correct.  It is ok to have a 15000px limit and that
 works perfectly.

   To fix the bug, I think when the code checks the resolution, if it's
 the same than before, it should also check the location of one of our
 feature position...  If it's near our 15000px limit ( let's say more
 than 14000px for example ) it should change the left-top value of the
 renderer.

   That way, even if we zoom out or pan, if we get out of our 15000px
 limit, features will continue to be displayed.

   What do you think ?

 Alexandre

 Eric Lemoine wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Alexandre Dube [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


 So it seems to me that the problem doesn't really related to the 15000
 px limit. In this scenario:

 - go out of range
 - pan and zoom without going beyond the 15000 px limit
 - go in range (the features should be visible as the limit was crossed)

 is the location of features correct?

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Re: [OpenLayers-Dev] SVG viewbox problem with minScale

2008-07-29 Thread Eric Lemoine
I have a patch that i'd like you to test. I cant post it right now but
will do as soon as i can. Cheers. Eric

2008/7/29, Eric Lemoine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Just checked: zoomChanged is set to true in moveTo when coming from
 setVisibility(true), so the fix describes in my previous email might
 just work. Eric

 2008/7/29, Eric Lemoine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi. Still i'm not convinced the problem is related to the pixel limit.
 When the layer is back to in range i tend to think that this.left and
 this.top should be reset to zero, which isn't the case today because
 from the renderer perspective it's like resolution has never changed.
 One way to solve this would be to have the layer pass the renderer the
 zoomChanged boolean value when calling setExtent, and have the
 renderer rely on that value to know whether resolution's changed.
 Although this will probably work in the going back in range
 situation, i'm not sure it'll work in the going back to visible
 situation, which must also be dealt with. Unless setVisibility(true)
 does pass zoomChanged=true to the layer moveTo call. This to be check,
 which i cant do at the moment. Regards. Eric

 2008/7/28, Alexandre Dube [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Eric,

   The location is correct.  It is ok to have a 15000px limit and that
 works perfectly.

   To fix the bug, I think when the code checks the resolution, if it's
 the same than before, it should also check the location of one of our
 feature position...  If it's near our 15000px limit ( let's say more
 than 14000px for example ) it should change the left-top value of the
 renderer.

   That way, even if we zoom out or pan, if we get out of our 15000px
 limit, features will continue to be displayed.

   What do you think ?

 Alexandre

 Eric Lemoine wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Alexandre Dube [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


 So it seems to me that the problem doesn't really related to the 15000
 px limit. In this scenario:

 - go out of range
 - pan and zoom without going beyond the 15000 px limit
 - go in range (the features should be visible as the limit was crossed)

 is the location of features correct?

 --
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Re: [OpenLayers-Dev] SVG viewbox problem with minScale

2008-07-29 Thread Alexandre Dube
Thanks Eric,

  I'll test your patch as soon as it's ready.

Alexandre

Eric Lemoine wrote:
 I have a patch that i'd like you to test. I cant post it right now but
 will do as soon as i can. Cheers. Eric

 2008/7/29, Eric Lemoine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 Just checked: zoomChanged is set to true in moveTo when coming from
 setVisibility(true), so the fix describes in my previous email might
 just work. Eric

 2008/7/29, Eric Lemoine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Hi. Still i'm not convinced the problem is related to the pixel limit.
 When the layer is back to in range i tend to think that this.left and
 this.top should be reset to zero, which isn't the case today because
 from the renderer perspective it's like resolution has never changed.
 One way to solve this would be to have the layer pass the renderer the
 zoomChanged boolean value when calling setExtent, and have the
 renderer rely on that value to know whether resolution's changed.
 Although this will probably work in the going back in range
 situation, i'm not sure it'll work in the going back to visible
 situation, which must also be dealt with. Unless setVisibility(true)
 does pass zoomChanged=true to the layer moveTo call. This to be check,
 which i cant do at the moment. Regards. Eric

 2008/7/28, Alexandre Dube [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 Hi Eric,

   The location is correct.  It is ok to have a 15000px limit and that
 works perfectly.

   To fix the bug, I think when the code checks the resolution, if it's
 the same than before, it should also check the location of one of our
 feature position...  If it's near our 15000px limit ( let's say more
 than 14000px for example ) it should change the left-top value of the
 renderer.

   That way, even if we zoom out or pan, if we get out of our 15000px
 limit, features will continue to be displayed.

   What do you think ?

 Alexandre

 Eric Lemoine wrote:
 
 On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Alexandre Dube [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


 So it seems to me that the problem doesn't really related to the 15000
 px limit. In this scenario:

 - go out of range
 - pan and zoom without going beyond the 15000 px limit
 - go in range (the features should be visible as the limit was crossed)

 is the location of features correct?

 --
 Eric

   
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 Mapgears
 www.mapgears.com


 


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[OpenLayers-Dev] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] Annual Meeting at FOSS4G

2008-07-29 Thread Erik Uzureau
See below tyler's call out for project presentations at FOSS4G. I will be
there as well as chris schmidt and tim schaub...
Is anyone else interested in getting up on stage and saying something? In
the past, I think chris has done a good job of
this but certainly welcome to offers
e

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Date: Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Annual Meeting at FOSS4G
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Just a quick note to invite projects and committees to present a brief
update at the meeting.  Just sign up here:

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Annual_General_Meeting_2008

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Re: [OpenLayers-Dev] SVG viewbox problem with minScale

2008-07-29 Thread Eric Lemoine
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Alexandre Dube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Eric,

  I'll test your patch as soon as it's ready.

I attached it to http://trac.openlayers.org/ticket/1631. It is untested.

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Re: [OpenLayers-Dev] svn 1.5

2008-07-29 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:45:00PM -0400, Tim Schaub wrote:
 Hey-
 
 Wondering if others think a move to subversion 1.5 would be good.
 
 A few features would be nice for OL development.  Particularly merge 
 tracking.  From the release notes:

At the moment, moving to subversion 1.5 on the server is a no-go. I'm
assuming the stuff that you are talking about requires server upgrades.

It doesn't look like Subversion 1.5 has been backported to Debian Etch
(which is what the OL server uses), and I'd prefer not to install from
sources other than debian repositories.

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Re: [OpenLayers-Dev] svn 1.5

2008-07-29 Thread Eric Lemoine
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Christopher Schmidt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:45:00PM -0400, Tim Schaub wrote:
 Hey-

 Wondering if others think a move to subversion 1.5 would be good.

 A few features would be nice for OL development.  Particularly merge
 tracking.  From the release notes:

 At the moment, moving to subversion 1.5 on the server is a no-go. I'm
 assuming the stuff that you are talking about requires server upgrades.

 It doesn't look like Subversion 1.5 has been backported to Debian Etch
 (which is what the OL server uses), and I'd prefer not to install from
 sources other than debian repositories.

Makes sense.

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Re: [OpenLayers-Dev] svn 1.5

2008-07-29 Thread Schuyler Erle
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 14:39 -0400, Christopher Schmidt wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:45:00PM -0400, Tim Schaub wrote:
  
  Wondering if others think a move to subversion 1.5 would be good.

 It doesn't look like Subversion 1.5 has been backported to Debian Etch
 (which is what the OL server uses), and I'd prefer not to install from
 sources other than debian repositories.

Is this maybe time to reopen the discussion of moving to OSGeo
infrastructure?

SDE

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Re: [OpenLayers-Dev] IE8 beta

2008-07-29 Thread Nathan Gerber
I have tested with IE8 beta 1 and it is horribly messed up. Google Maps
won't even render properly so its not limited to OpenLayers rendering
improperly. I wouldn'y plan on trying to make it work until its nearing
Release Candidate stages as it appears Microsoft will be doing some
significant work for the next revision (beta 2).
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On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Bart van den Eijnden (OSGIS) 
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 Hi list,

 has anybody done some testing with IE8 beta already? Is the upcoming 2.7
 release expected to be compatible with IE8 beta?

 Best regards,
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Re: [OpenLayers-Dev] IE8 beta

2008-07-29 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 09:08:29PM +0200, Bart van den Eijnden (OSGIS) wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 has anybody done some testing with IE8 beta already? Is the upcoming 2.7 
 release expected to be compatible with IE8 beta?

Bart,

There are no plans to test OL 2.7 with IE8.

At this point, the only release hasn't even resulted in *VirtualEarth*
working: They use IE7 compatibility mode on their own pages. If
Microsoft isn't up to the task of making their maps work with their 
browser, I'm certainly not going to spend a lot of time on doing the
same for OpenLayers. 

My feeling is that the current betas simply aren't ready. If this
changes before our release, we may take some steps to change this, but I
haven't seen evidence that this is likely before our 2.7 release. 

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[OpenLayers-Dev] Scale control uses moveend

2008-07-29 Thread Alexandre Dube
Hi Everybody,

Is it ok if the Scale control registers a moveend event instead of a 
zoomend ?  To recalculate the scale after panning doesn't look very useful to 
me.  What do you think ?


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Re: [OpenLayers-Dev] Scale control uses moveend

2008-07-29 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 03:37:05PM -0400, Alexandre Dube wrote:
 Hi Everybody,
 
 Is it ok if the Scale control registers a moveend event instead of a 
 zoomend ?  To recalculate the scale after panning doesn't look very useful 
 to me.  What do you think ?

At some point in the future, the scale control may actually use geodesic
measurements for determining measurements: in a case where you have a
global map, scale is obviously not the same everywhere (think a Mercator
map), and there has been some rumbling from people that they are unable
to use the scale control because it doesn't match the Google
Maps-created expectation that the scalebar will change as you drag north
and south on a Mercator projected map. 

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Re: [OpenLayers-Dev] Scale control uses moveend

2008-07-29 Thread Eric Lemoine
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Christopher Schmidt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 03:37:05PM -0400, Alexandre Dube wrote:
 Hi Everybody,

 Is it ok if the Scale control registers a moveend event instead of a 
 zoomend ?  To recalculate the scale after panning doesn't look very useful 
 to me.  What do you think ?

 At some point in the future, the scale control may actually use geodesic
 measurements for determining measurements: in a case where you have a
 global map, scale is obviously not the same everywhere (think a Mercator
 map), and there has been some rumbling from people that they are unable
 to use the scale control because it doesn't match the Google
 Maps-created expectation that the scalebar will change as you drag north
 and south on a Mercator projected map.

I wouldn't have thought of that. Thanks for the explanation Chris.

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[OpenLayers-Dev] OpenLayers.Tile, abstract enough?

2008-07-29 Thread Eric Lemoine
Hello

For the grid strategy I needed a specialized tile class. What
logically came to mind was create a child class of OpenLayers.Tile,
namely OpenLayers.Tile.Vector. Looking at OpenLayers.Tile I discovered
that OpenLayers.Tile includes back-buffer code that my class wouldn't
need. For that reason, I implemented my vector tile class without
inheriting from OpenLayers.Tile, which isn't good as my tile class
does respect the tile interface. Shouldn't OpenLayers.Tile be as
abstract as possible? Shoulnd't the backbuffer code be moved to some
other place? What do you think?

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