New look for AOO
Hi More one question: is possible to change this look'n'fell of AOO? Give to it a flat idea? I'm evolving an icon set to AOO[1] and I wish to get a better look to it, as suggested in my mockups[2]. [1]https://www.dropbox.com/s/9dr8tlgk1u762yh/aoo_with_flat_icons.png?dl=0 [2] https://www.dropbox.com/s/5qy9jo1i0f24rty/mockup_aoo_with_flat_icons.png?dl=0 Any (easy) suggest is very welcome. Regards, Claudio
Re: New look for AOO
If somebody wish to try, replace this zip[1] in /opt/openoffice4/share/config/ (for linux), or find the image_industrial.zip in win or osx and replace in your env. [1]https://www.dropbox.com/s/2j27prfg0y1dqvr/images_industrial.zip?dl=0 Bests, Claudio ps: please, add me in cc when reply this msg.
Re: Add new basic shape in AOO
Hi Thank you, Ariel and Regina, by the fast reply, but I not ask about the stencils in self, but about basic shapes that exist in the draw bar, like star, cloud, diagram pictures, etc. I believe that they are described in some XML inside the installation directory, but haven't idea where to find it. I found the descritor of buttons, like the button that you can choice the smiles, in %INSTALLFOLDER/share/config/soffice.cfg/modules/sdraw/toolbar/symbolshapes.xml. It point to .uno:SymbolShapes.symbol, but where is this uno? PS: if possible, add me in CC. I'm not subscribed in this list. Regards, Claudio Anyway, today i have a problem in to draw a network flow, like in MS Visio, and I found some great stencils, already converted in image and packaged for AOO. This is the easy part. The hard part is some shapes that haven't in AOO, like a round square/rectangle with space to write some text as title (at top). Calligra Flow has a lot of stencils, and the are in ODG format, see http://lxr.kde.org/source/calligra/flow/stencils http://lxr.kde.org/source/calligra/flow/stencils You can create galleries from all of them.
Re: Add new basic shape in AOO
Hi Thank you more one time, Regina. 2014-09-30 12:50 GMT-03:00 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de: I believe that they are described in some XML inside the installation directory, No, they are hard coded. Ok. Understood. You will find a start for how to do it in https://wiki.openoffice.org/ wiki/Create_a_New_Custom_Shape_in_Source_in_File But that is only a start, custom shapes have a lot more properties. You can look at the section 10.6 in ODF1.2 specification part 1. http://docs.oasis-open.org/ office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part1.html Have you ever written HTML or XML manually? Then writing a svg-graphic will work as workaround too. I already saw your page, Regina, and i'm trying to do this shape. When i finish it, i attach in my bug. Best regards, Claudio
Add new basic shape in AOO
Hi First of all, congrats to all by your best work in AOO. I continue using and following the community, maintaining the pt-BR translation, but without many time to work in the project at all. Anyway, today i have a problem in to draw a network flow, like in MS Visio, and I found some great stencils, already converted in image and packaged for AOO. This is the easy part. The hard part is some shapes that haven't in AOO, like a round square/rectangle with space to write some text as title (at top). Take a look in this image[1] and see some squares with Dialer [A|B|C]. I saw a page in the wiki[2] that explain how i can add a new shape in a new draw file, but my question is how insert in the draw bar, inside a button like of smile. I believe that is a good shape to add in AOO. In other hand, someone can give me a idea about the filter to import VISIO files in AOO? Since now, thanks in advanced, Claudio ps: Please, add my email in CC. I'm not subscribed in this list. [1] http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/Cc751322.vcsfrl03_big(l=en-us).gif [2] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Create_a_New_Custom_Shape_in_Source_in_File
a good bye
Hi A cicle of my life finish for me and i am exiting of open source iniciative. So, i request my remotion from Apache. Thanks for all and good bye. Claudio ps: i unsbuscribed myself from all lists. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [UX] How add a new icon set?
2013/6/13 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com: I saw some interesting icons from Faenza collection and I wish to do a icon set for AOO with this material. Where can i find some material or orientation to see how to do it? Is possible to do a extension for this idea? Replying myself: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/ooo_custom_images/README.txt?view=markup Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]:_ new snapshot build based on trunk rev 1491858
Hi Em 15/06/2013 16:24, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org escreveu: On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 09:01:40AM -0300, Claudio Filho wrote: Without pt-BR packages, Ariel? the snapshot tag was made before the pt-BR SDF file was committed, as Jürgen said. I understand and is fine. As I had to test some stuff, I added pt-BR to a new build, the PO file were downloaded from the pootle server last night (get an idea of the status of the translation by that time), they are located here: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/developer-snapshots/new/ My hero!!! \o/ Thanks, Ariel. Bests Claudio Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina
Re: [RELEASE]:_ new snapshot build based on trunk rev 1491858
Hi Without pt-BR packages, Ariel? Bests Claudio Em 13/06/2013 04:11, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org escreveu: On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 06:15:00PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, I would like to propose a new snapshot build based on trunk rev 1491858, revision 1491860 on the SNAPSHOT I will include the following languages en-GB en-US es nl sk ru Linux builds are under http://people.apache.org/~arielch/developer-snapshots/snapshot/ Recall to remove all previous installations (more on this later this week): * debian based: sudo apt-get purge openoffice.org-ure openoffice.org*-debian-menus tar xvf tar file cd language/DEBS sudo dpkg -i ./*.deb ./desktop-integration/*.deb * yum: su -c 'yum erase openoffice.org-ure openoffice.org*-redhat-menus' tar xvf tar file cd language/RPMS su -c 'yum --nogpgcheck localinstall ./*.rpm' su -c 'yum --nogpgcheck localinstall ./desktop-integration/package for your distro' Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina
Re: [Discuss][Wiki]Synchronizing (or not) localized wiki sites [was: Fwd: [UserGuide]My roadmap]
Hi 2013/6/3 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com: 2013/6/3 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org On 02/06/2013 RGB ES wrote: Do we want to clone, for example, the documentation section on all the localized sites, just translating it? On Sun times that was the idea, with sub sites (portals) like http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/wiki/**Documentationhttp://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/wiki/DE/**Documentationhttp://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/DE/Documentation http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/wiki/FR/**Documentationhttp://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/FR/Documentation etc looking almost the same on all languages. Ricardo, we can go by two ways, based in commom practice for mediawiki: http://wiki.../Documentation and http://wiki.../Documentation/lang - for localized pages from the core http://wiki.../LANG/anything - for local/native texts. This can work. We also have this other infrastructure in place http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Main_Testhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Test added by Claudio a few months ago. See http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Template:Langhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Template:Lang to see how it works. I don't know which approach is best for our case. The *Template:* technology is for many other things, like menus, sorts, and others. I think that we can use this first step based in review the core and a way to translate it for other languages. How our system is a mediawiki, i did a research about localization in this software with the last methods, where i found some interesting contents. I believe that with translate extension for mediawiki we have the tool for this goal. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Making_Multilingual_Wikis_a_Reality_-_Niklas_Laxstr%C3%B6m_and_Claus_Christensen.ogv http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:MediaWiki As for keeping subsites synchronized, in theory this allows to have a Master copy in English and then translate it in the various languages as volunteers become available. In practice, we can't stop someone from editing or creating a translated page to add new content in a language only, but ideally this would imply that the English version is updated to reflect the changes too. If i understood right, the translate extension will help us in this task. All those portal pages are under PDL license (look at the categories at the bottom of those pages). If we want to promote new wiki content under Apache license, this means a problem. If I read this page right http://www.openoffice.org/licenses/PDL.html PDL is a sort of copyleft license. This is a excelent question. I ask to my self how the TDF did about (more) this question. Can we do like them? Simply overwrite the license and to continue the devel? (i remember when they copied all sites/docs/contents, like api site, and changed the license) Re-license those pages is not possible without the explicit consent of the author, and those pages are so old that contact the authors is almost impossible. Suppose we update those pages to point to the new material. A potential contributor (or just a casual reader) will see the PDL notice on the portal page, and no notice on the new pages: from the user perspective, does this means that the new page is also under PDL? We know it isn't, but this could be a cause of confusion, IMO. So, which is the best way to work around this problem? Reimplement those pages, making a clear separation between new material (under Apache) and legacy content? Maybe this is the unique way. By other hand, is a opportunity of review all content in the wiki, reorder and clean it, and evolve based in the correct license. In some cases, we can see the page history and try to find the author. Some parts, i believe that is all from Sun/Oracle copyright, so transfered to ASF. My 2¢ Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: glosary/terminology files in pootle
Hi 2013/6/2 janI j...@apache.org: On 2 June 2013 15:37, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Adding terminology seems fine, of course. Requiring the review step is in principle OK for me too, but I wonder how it will work for languages where we don't have native speakers as committers: does it require that strings are explicitly marked as reviewed, or is it enough to ask volunteers to check the warnings generated by Pootle and then send a note to the l10n list saying that they have considered/ignored warnings appropriately? Asking volunteers to that would be a significant step in getting better quality. The nice thing about pootle review is that it can be done be everyone. My idea was to say something like before moving po files back to svn, the committer must run a pootle review, if there are errors/warnings not explained by the translators on the mailing list, the files will not be transferred. I know it puts a little burden on the person who does the transfer, but similar to receiving a code patch. I think that we have some mistake about the review. One thing is to generate all strings in the source lang, like en_US. When you do it, you can give any inconsistent problems, like use differents terms in differents parts doing the same thing. IMHO, the translation team from Sun did a incredible work about this interchange about UI and help contents. Other step is to translate it for many langs, like StarOffice/OOo/AOO. A good practice is the use of glossary/terminology, giving to team a way to translate in the same way. Is possible to do this work without the glossary/terminology, but is possible that you will have a UI/help with differents terms for SAME thing, or some thing worse, like differents parts of UI with differents strings for the SAME thing. IMO, we are in this edge between the good and acceptable, and now, we can start a revision of all work. An example: pivot table, in pt_BR, was translated for Assistente de dados (data wizard?) instead Tabela dinâmica. Before, all strings was consistent with the first option, that is good, but isn't the good choice of term. Today, (i believe that) all UI/help are aligned with the second term, that is more appropriate. When i did the translation, i found some original strings that could be written in other way or using other example. So, you can see 2 review to do: one for original strings and other for evolve the translations. In this time, if we implement the terminology practice, the new translations can do first the translation of glossary, and after load in pootle and provide for them translators the po file (to offline translations), giving a tool for a better and consistent translation. Who already did his translation, can review the work, giving a better quality for his translated AOO through revising the glossary and reflecting this work in the UI/help. Is possible too ignore this practice and do it freely. :-) Anyway, i think/suggest to start the process revision after 4.0[.1?]. Today, only provide the resource and the use is free to all teams. About the Pootle, i can help in admin it, if necessary (backup admin?). ;-) Cheer Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Lang pack of pt-BR for tests
Hi Juergen, as you has oriented, i opened an issue[1]. Now, need extend my request to help package too. ;-) I finished the pt-BR help for AOO 4.0 too. I stay in wait. bests, Claudio 2013/5/4 Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: Am Freitag, 3. Mai 2013 um 22:47 schrieb Claudio Filho: Hi I finished the translation of UI for pt-BR to aoo 4.0. Is possible to build a lang pack to see how is it and to start our revision? we will have one further minor update I the localization. No big thing ... I will update the po next week. Please create an issue and assign it too me Juergen Best, Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Lang pack of pt-BR for tests
Hi Juergen, as you has oriented, i opened an issue[1]. Now, need extend my request to help package too. ;-) [1]http://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122308 I finished the pt-BR help for AOO 4.0 too. I stay in wait. bests, Claudio 2013/5/4 Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: Am Freitag, 3. Mai 2013 um 22:47 schrieb Claudio Filho: Hi I finished the translation of UI for pt-BR to aoo 4.0. Is possible to build a lang pack to see how is it and to start our revision? we will have one further minor update I the localization. No big thing ... I will update the po next week. Please create an issue and assign it too me Juergen Best, Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New committer: V. Kadal Amutham (vkadal)
2013/5/28 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org: The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice has asked V. Kadal Amutham to become a committer and we are pleased to announce that he has accepted and taken the ID vkadal. Congratulations, Kadal! \o/ Many work and more hands to share. ;-) Best, Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
AOO in a cloud using GTK
Hi I found a (good!) tutorial[1] (in portuguese) where shows about how put LibO in a browser using a resource of GTK. There, the author explain that the insight was to use a custom build with options --enable-x11-backend --enable-broadway-backend. After, export some variables: $ export SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gtk3 $ export GDK_BACKEND=broadway $ export BROADWAY_DISPLAY=8080** and at final, call the apps: $ soffice --writer $ soffice --calc $ soffice --draw $ soffice --impress $ soffice --base $ soffice --math $ soffice --global $ soffice --web Each app will open in a different port starting from 8080, e.g., only need enter in your web browser at localhost:808[0|1|2|...] for each app. I see in the Oliver's presentation[2] about the work of Jian and Fan, with a different approach, where they convert(?) the interface to XML and html5. IMHO, this is the best approach, but the use of GTK is other option to play. ;-) So, my question is: do we have a build with this options? Is possible to try it? I ask because my build is broke. [1]http://www.dicas-l.com.br/arquivo/libreoffice_em_nuvem_crie_seu_servidor_web_office.php#.UaSsqedQh-4 [2]http://www.slideshare.net/pescetti/cloud-apache-openoffice-based-on-html5 Best, Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Find a better name for sidebar?
Hi 2013/5/27 Shari Smith shari.sm...@uneedstuff.com: why i, I'd say oPanel or aPanel +1 Effectively panel is interesting in our local context, so [a|I|o]Panel is a good way. More yet if in the furure the formating toolbar will be disabled. Better(IMHO) if we improve this *panel* with Renaissance4 CWS[1] [1]http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/msg07311.html Claudio. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: pootle server.
Hi I tried to access the Pootle and returned the Sonar, at https://analysis.apache.org/. Is correct it? Bests, Claudio 2013/5/23 janI j...@apache.org: Hi. We have to take pootle down for about 2 hours due to a urgently needed maintenance, sorry for the short warning. Downtime is expected to be: UTC 18:00 to UTC 20:00 max. rgds jan I. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: pootle server.
2013/5/24 jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com: refresh the page. it is because your cached an old version. we changed the pottle technical setup yesterday. Thanks, Jan. The problem is my (corporative) proxy. :-( But is fine with my 3G connection. Thanks! Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Update of pages oo.o credits
2013/5/20 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com: On 2013-05-20, at 20:58 , Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Albino B Neto bin...@apache.org wrote: This pages about credits of members [1], were did the last updated: 2010-11-15, long time. 1 - http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html IMHO, I think that the best is put a cut line and to restart this list, e.g., preserve this as a old page and in this new page putting a link to it. In other hand, i think that is a good time to list other contributions like in wiki, infra and other fronts beyond the commits in the code. But to track this contributions ways and register in one page this credits is a additional work... Necessary. Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Pootle]Different behaviour on different browsers
Hi 2013/5/16 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: On 5/16/13 1:47 PM, RGB ES wrote: Can someone confirm this behaviour? The lack of browse buttons means that it is not possible to work on firefox: you cannot jump to the next string. I do. I opened my space and opened any fuzzy/unstranslated string and appears the suggestion in Iceweasel (firefox in Debian) , where in Chromium (Chrome in Debian), don't shows. With this fact, i will use firefox to translate to use this (IMHO, very useful) feature. Best, Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Pootle]Different behaviour on different browsers
2013/5/16 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com: But can you see the browse buttons on Firefox? This is what I see: Yes. I can. For me, the unique problem is the suggestions missing. @Rob, i did it, without success. Same behavior. Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: https://translate.apache.org
Hi 2013/5/15 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org: Thanks! This is a major development and it will allow new volunteers to work directly online (with proper attribution, very important in our case) if they prefer to do so. Everything looks fine for me, after authenticating with my committer login. Humm.. Sorry, but i think that lost some thing. With this new server, beyond the new server, with its advances, we will have conditions to add new volunteers without commit permissions? Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: https://translate.apache.org
2013/5/15 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: no not really, it is simply not open. Please send an email to this list if you need an account. Either Jan or I will handle it then via private emails Ah! This is fine! A good step for new volunteers (as translators). Thanks, Jurgen and Jan by your great job over Pootle! Bests, Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: https://translate.apache.org
2013/5/15 janI j...@apache.org: Just to be sure, non-committers will only be allowed to do suggestions. A committer must verify the suggestion (just like code patches). I understand that we can have more one profile in this case, Jan, or best, we need rethink this. I agree that if a new translator arrives and starts helping with suggestions is fine. But how credit his contribution? This mensure is important (IMHO) to justify an invitation of this contibutor to have a upgrade to commiter. Today, i can't see a way to this. This is a very important because the step we have taken is in the grey array of what can be accepted, and I am pretty sure it will be monitored how much we allow non-committers. Yes. I agree with you again, but i see important to have the channel for non-programmer give his contributions and the respective credits and recognition. Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Openoffice
Hi Em 13 de maio de 2013 14:29, Rodrigo Oscar Novaes do Baixo rodrigobaixo1...@gmail.com escreveu: Eu gostaria de saber de voces quando vai lançar a nova versão 4.0 do Openoffice. Muito obrigado. Rodrigo, nós usamos o inglês nesta lista. Em emails futuros, por favor, envie suas questões em inglês. Quanto ao lançamento, estamos trabalhando nos testes de qualidade. Possivelmente neste semestre lançaremos. Rodrigo, we use only english in this list. In future emails, please, send your questions in english. About the next release, we are working in the quality tests. Possibly yet in this semester we will release it. Bests, Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Lang pack of pt-BR for tests
Hi I finished the translation of UI for pt-BR to aoo 4.0. Is possible to build a lang pack to see how is it and to start our revision? Best, Claudio
Re: Translation for AOO 4.0
Hi Em 26/04/2013 12:13, janI j...@apache.org escreveu: for the record, this was not what I saidI simply believe that a feature without help (and documentation) is not complete and if released should be highlighted because our average user depend on help in many situations. Only to give an out perspective, this highlighted can return against we, as a incomplete or immature development. Imho, an important feature of aoo project is its concern in bring and deliver a product with high quality. So, the PoV of Ariel and Jan are solid. My 2 ¢ Claudio
Re: [PROPOSAL] AOO forum in pt-br
Hi 2013/4/23 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com 2013/4/24 Albino B Neto bino...@gmail.com 2013/4/19 Albino B Neto bino...@gmail.com: The problem is with the language Portuguese Brazil have many complex in its grammar, as the same problem occurred in the creation of mailing. In the past, was more problematic that today, it's true. I'm not a language expert, but as an outsider I don't see the differences between Brazilian and Portugal Portuguese bigger than the differences between all Spanish variants. Or between English variants: who said that Britain and America are two nations divided by a common language? But even in this situation we only have *one* English forum. Yes, there are some grammar and spelling differences, but I do not think that communication is impossible between the two nations. I mean, there are words that are pretty innocent in Spain but became nasty and heavy bad words in Latin America... but we still communicate on *one* forum, and we understand each other without problems. As in Spanish, somethings are different, but I agree that is understandable. Using some other projects, like Mozilla, we have distinction between both languages with proper space for both, or better, i see only brazilians in brazilian space; or in Debian, that we have one space since years, that was occupied with brazilian way and today we are creating the proper space for pt-BR. Create or not ? As I previously said, I like the idea of a Portuguese forum. What I do not like is the idea of two Portuguese forums. I think that do a unique space is a good idea and, if we see problems, we do other. When we read what was wrote in other variant is easy understand almost all. The problem is more when talk, that isn't the case of our tool. ;-) Albino, do you can be the moderator of pt forum? Maybe more one portuguese volunteer? Regards, Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: openoffice|ooffice|office instead soffice?
Hi 2013/4/23 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org: It is a fact that soffice has been outdated for about 10 years. But previous discussions on the topics showed that, while it would be feasible to rename the alias, there are documented procedures that still rely on the name soffice when they must launch/connect to OpenOffice. I can't be more precise at the moment, but if you need further details I may dig a bit. Thanks Andrea and RGB. I think that the RGB's suggestion is the better approach for us after 4.0 release, including his suggestion to use aoo (very short!). ;-) Anyway, i see that is a consensus this question and that need attention soon. Regards, Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
Hi 2013/4/24 janI j...@apache.org: I assume we will at some point go in a second round with just a few logos, would it be possible (at that time) to have these logos additional as: Logo for the product (sw) Favicon There are a couple of those I like, which I cannot judge if they would look nice in something as small as a favicon. IMHO, this is the next (absolutly necessary) step. Get a direction with this survey and in the second time, revise with the winner designer the details to build a complete visual identity, with all necessary elements, to AOO 4+. The visual fine tunning. Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available
Hi 2013/3/21 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com: The two most important improvements since my last update: - There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area, Position and Size, Graphics, Page) - Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should appear in the finished sidebar. The missing panels are replaced by placeholders for the time being. Andre, i'm using (directly) the 4.0 snapshot, and i saw that all components from format toolbar are present in sidebar, except the style and format window (F11). If we put this button in sidebar, we don't need more this toolbar, giving more some pixels in the text space. Is this idea in the plan? Best, Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
Hi 2013/4/24 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: You get that message if you just go to the root URL http://survey.openoffice.org/. To get to the actual survey you need to go to http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/815178/ Rob, have a config that you can set in the survey to list this survey in the root page. I think that is a good practice to list there. Best, Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft Logo Survey
Hi 2013/4/23 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: Please let me know immediately: 1) If there are any typos in the survey Rob, * in logo-7, the answer's order is wrong; * appears that logo-2 and logo-15 are the same with different size; And, at final, after push the next button, returned the string below. I think that the correct is a thanks page and redirect to oo.org page. Regards, Claudio Unknown column '47435X5X87' in 'field list':UPDATE cyl_survey_47435 SET `lastpage`='2', `47435X5X87`='L003', `47435X5X87comment`='', `47435X5X72`='L005', `47435X5X72comment`='', `47435X5X83`='L002', `47435X5X83comment`='', `47435X5X86`='L001', `47435X5X86comment`='', `47435X5X71`='L005', `47435X5X71comment`='', `47435X5X79`='L002', `47435X5X79comment`='', `47435X5X69`='L003', `47435X5X69comment`='', `47435X5X82`='L002', `47435X5X82comment`='', `47435X5X89`='L001', `47435X5X89comment`='', `47435X5X76`='L002', `47435X5X76comment`='', `47435X5X73`='L005', `47435X5X73comment`='', `47435X5X80`='L001', `47435X5X80comment`='', `47435X5X90`='L003', `47435X5X90comment`='', `47435X5X77`='L003', `47435X5X77comment`='', `47435X5X81`='L003', `47435X5X81comment`='', `47435X5X85`='L002', `47435X5X85comment`='', `47435X5X74`='L002', `47435X5X74comment`='', `47435X5X70`='L002', `47435X5X70comment`='', `47435X5X84`=' ', `47435X5X84comment`='', `47435X5X78`='L001', `47435X5X78comment`='', `47435X5X75`='L001', `47435X5X75comment`='', `47435X5X88`='L001', `47435X5X88comment`='' WHERE ID=2 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
openoffice|ooffice|office instead soffice?
Hi I remember that some time ago started a discuss about the change of binary name soffice (and its others names - scalc, sdraw, etc) by other that not *s*office, and I not remember the final of this novel. Is possible? IMO, i (as newbie) haven't idea. Is interesting? IMHO, is necessary! Some good soul can give me a light about this question? ;-) Best, Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Official survey service? (Was: Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo)
Hi Em 17/04/2013 21:08, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org escreveu: If we want I can put a poll up on http://openofficesurvey.org. Rob, isn't better use this service in side of our domain? Some thing like survey.OpenOffice.org? My two cents... ;-) Best regards Claudio
Make x Dmake x Build (Was: Re: [Error] Compile AOO on Debian amd64)
Hi 2013/4/18 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com: But regarding the removed Slot FN_PROPERTY_WRAP_DLG perform a clean build of module sw: - cd sw - make clean - build Oliver, sorry by my newbie ask, but... we don't use more dmake? If i understood correctly, build is a perl script that calls all modules, building in order of dependence, entering in each one, calling Dmake to compile and delivering all files where need. I saw some makefile files and many more makefile.mk, where i think that one is for Make and other is to Dmake. I see it in wiki too, for build parts. In long term, we will migrate to Make or continue with this hibrid(?) model? Cheers, Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Official survey service? (Was: Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo)
Hi 2013/4/18, janI j...@apache.org: On 18 April 2013 13:13, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: No objections is someone wants to have a month-long wrestling match with Infra to get something like this set up. But I was able to get it set up on my server in 30 minutes, including buying the domain from GoDaddy for $7.00. My thinking is about the use of pseudodomains using the name of OpenOffice. Sure that we know who works in the project and who are the people, but (IMHO) is important join all services under the same domain. Infra is not always that bad, they work hard, but if one asks nicely things normally get done quickly. The new translate-vm2 was up and running 24hours after I asked for it. Some times, they have a hard lot of work that gives for us this impression. As I already have helped in the infra of BrOffice, I know how hard is them work, but one time that the home is clean is more easy (and responsive) they work/reply for our requests. Where would like survey.openoffice.org to point to ? Direct to point, Janl. ;-) We can redirect the domain to your server, Rob, and after to migrate to Apache servers when possible. Bests, Claudio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Build fail in packimages module
Hi Strangely, after I updated my env, I can't build without problems a new version. After libwpd, is time of packimages, where returns the msg bellow. Some idea or tip? Bests, Claudio = Building module packimages = Entering /home/filhocf/projetos/aoo/source/main/packimages/pack find /home/filhocf/projetos/aoo/source/main/default_images/res/commandimagelist -name *.png | sed s#/home/filhocf/projetos/aoo/source/main/default_images/res#%GLOBALRES%# | /usr/bin/perl /home/filhocf/projetos/aoo/source/main/solenv/bin/sort.pl ../unxlngx6.pro/res/img/commandimagelist.ilst.unxlngx6.pro /usr/bin/perl /home/filhocf/projetos/aoo/source/main/solenv/bin/diffmv.pl../ unxlngx6.pro/res/img/commandimagelist.ilst.unxlngx6.pro ../ unxlngx6.pro/res/img/commandimagelist.ilst ../unxlngx6.pro/res/img/commandimagelist.ilst unchanged. /usr/bin/perl /home/filhocf/projetos/aoo/source/main/solenv/bin/ packimages.pl -g /home/filhocf/projetos/aoo/source/main/default_images -m /home/filhocf/projetos/aoo/source/main/default_images -c .. -l /home/filhocf/projetos/aoo/source/main/solver/400/unxlngx6.pro/res/img -s ../unxlngx6.pro/res/img/sorted.lst -l ../unxlngx6.pro/res/img -o ../ unxlngx6.pro/bin/images.zip packimages -- version: 1.17 Can't call method desiredCompressionLevel on an undefined value at /usr/share/perl5/Archive/Zip/Archive.pm line 249. dmake: Error code 2, while making '../unxlngx6.pro/bin/images.zip' ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /home/filhocf/projetos/aoo/source/main/packimages/pack
ccache for Java?
Hi I use ccache to accelerate the build process, but when it arrives in helpcontent2 (and other modules), dmake rebuilds all objects again, so I ask if (and how) exist some thing like ccache to speed up the build of java parts. Thank in advance, Claudio
Re: ccache for Java?
Hi Speaking with java developers, they spoke about Maven or use some parameter in ANT, for reuse compiled objects. I understand that have the same effect - speed up the build. Someone knows about this topic? Bests, Claudio 2013/4/16 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com Hi I use ccache to accelerate the build process, but when it arrives in helpcontent2 (and other modules), dmake rebuilds all objects again, so I ask if (and how) exist some thing like ccache to speed up the build of java parts. Thank in advance, Claudio
Re: Compile AOO on Debian
Hi 2013/4/16 Albino B Neto bino...@gmail.com Begin here [2]. 2 - http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO Bino, you don't need run bootstrap if you already have epm and dmake installed in your system. In Debian, we have both packages as well. Install they and jump to next step. Bests, Claudio
Re: Libwpd 0.8 x 0.9
Hi 2013/4/14 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com Also, getting configure to work correctly with your system require correct pkg-config set up for all your libraries -- a big issue with my setup. Thank you, Kay. My workaround was add the stable repository in my Debian box and install only this package (and its dependences) to continue. :-( Bests, Claudio
Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1
Err... Sorry but... the extentions cited by Ariel will be integrated in the source as code and not as extension? In other words, will be part of core? As he explained, make sense for me to merge this functions in the code in the same way of Solver was in the past. Sorry by my newbie understanding about the question. I am studing the requeriment to build into debian way, getting many problems to bring the code to be debianized, breaking in some parts (at this moment in pdfimport module) and to know more about this question can help. And thanks by share the final of this point. Bests, Claudio 2013/4/3 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com On 3/27/13 3:23 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:12:39AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Different opinions came up and we had some discussion and you pointed out that you can live with feedback. Where is exactly your problem now? I don't have any problem at all. I don't think that it will help us if we react this way. I am not reacting. Please don't turn this into a circus like the one with the 0^0. Really nobody wanted that you revert anything here. I am no native English speaker, but for the content, and the tone, of Andre mails, I understood he wanted his extension back: I don't see why this change should be a good thing. I was hoping that I would find the time in the future to fix this Including the pre-bundled extensions into the core is a workaround not a fix. We are still able (well until your changes) to release the presenter console under Apache license I still don' t see the benefit of the change. [...] This is something that I have used several times in the past and always was very glad that I had it. And he got it back (together with the Presentation Minimizer, as it makes no sense to have one pre-registered extension and the other integrated). Again, I don't have any problem at all, nor then, nor now :) Just a short question before I lose it out of focus, do you plan to revert your revert? Or can/should we revert it? I really think it was a misunderstanding and nothing else. Juergen Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
Hi Em 10/04/2013 07:11, janI j...@apache.org escreveu: On 10 April 2013 11:48, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi community, the first phase of the sidebar development is complete. The sidebar is now feature complete, ie all panels that are planned for the 4.0 release are now available. Congratulations!! A small question is someone looking at documenting this new feature, including online doc ? More that docs, do we will have a branch for 4.0 in l10n/pootle, including the strings of sidebar? Regards, Claudio
Re: FISL14, in Brazil
Hi We can *try* to organize some thing there. Subscription of talks is opened. IMHO, we can try to bring some key people to present the ecosystem of AOO and its evolution. I will contact the organization and to know what we can do. In my way, i will submit the same talk that i did in a gov event[1] in last month (unhappyly, only in portuguese). [1]http://assiste.serpro.gov.br/cisl/apacheopenoffice.html Regards, Claudio 2013/4/3 Albino B Neto bitf...@yahoo.com De: Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 3 de Abril de 2013 11:24 As to Fisl 14, let's discuss this directly? Yes, no problem. :-) I do want a strong presence there, with you, Claudio, others. It would be independent of any ODF plugfest. The FISL [1] is a comprehensive environment. 1 - http://fisl.org.br
Re: Error at pyuno module
More some info: when I use without the flag, it breaks at same module, in other part: ... cat /home/filhocf/projetos/aoo/source/main/solver/400/unxlngx6.pro/inc/python/abstract.h ../unxlngx6.pro/bin/python-core-2.7.3/include/python2.7/abstract.h cd ../unxlngx6.pro/bin/python-core-2.7.3 find . -name '*.so' | xargs strip strip:./lib/lib-dynload/cStringIO.so: File truncated dmake: Error code 123, while making '../unxlngx6.pro/bin/python-core-2.7.3.zip' ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /home/filhocf/projetos/aoo/source/main/pyuno/zipcore I think that this code not like me. :-P ;-) Bests, Claudio 2013/3/12 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com: Hi I'm trying to build the trunk version of AOO in my computer and I found the error at pyuno module below. My system is a Debian amd64 and I'm using the --with-system-python flag, with python version 2.7.3. Some tip or suggestion? Thanks in advance, Claudio = $ build build -- version: 275224 = Building module pyuno = Entering /home/filhocf/projetos/aoo/source/main/pyuno/source/module mkout -- version: 1.8 Making:all_pyuno.dpslo Compiling: pyuno/unxlngx6.pro/misc/pyuno_version.c Compiling: pyuno/source/module/pyuno_module.cxx Compiling: pyuno/unxlngx6.pro/misc/pyuno_version.c cp uno.py ../../unxlngx6.pro/lib/uno.py cp unohelper.py ../../unxlngx6.pro/lib/unohelper.py Compiling: pyuno/source/module/pyuno_dlopenwrapper.c cat ../../unxlngx6.pro/misc/pyuno.cmd ccache g++ -Wl,-z,combreloc -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,--dynamic-list-cpp-new -Wl,--dynamic-list-cpp-typeinfo -Wl,--hash-style=both -Wl,-rpath,'$ORIGIN:$ORIGIN/../ure-link/lib' -shared -ldl -o ../../unxlngx6.pro/lib/pyuno.so ../../unxlngx6.pro/slo/pyuno_dlopenwrapper.o rm -f ../../unxlngx6.pro/misc/pyunorc cat pyuno ../../unxlngx6.pro/misc/pyunorc Compiling: pyuno/source/module/pyuno_runtime.cxx Compiling: pyuno/source/module/pyuno.cxx Compiling: pyuno/source/module/pyuno_callable.cxx Compiling: pyuno/source/module/pyuno_type.cxx /home/filhocf/projetos/aoo/source/main/pyuno/source/module/pyuno_type.cxx: In function 'PyObject* pyuno::importToGlobal(PyObject*, PyObject*, PyObject*)': /home/filhocf/projetos/aoo/source/main/pyuno/source/module/pyuno_type.cxx:320:33: warning: declaration of 'name' shadows a previous local [-Wshadow] /home/filhocf/projetos/aoo/source/main/pyuno/source/module/pyuno_type.cxx:264:14: warning: shadowed declaration is here [-Wshadow] Compiling: pyuno/source/module/pyuno_util.cxx Compiling: pyuno/source/module/pyuno_except.cxx Compiling: pyuno/source/module/pyuno_adapter.cxx Compiling: pyuno/source/module/pyuno_gc.cxx Making:pyuno.lib rm -f ../../unxlngx6.pro/misc/pyuno.flt cat pyuno.flt ../../unxlngx6.pro/misc/pyuno.flt Making:libpyuno.so : ERROR: ../../unxlngx6.pro/lib/check_libpyuno.so: undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_DecodeUTF8 dmake: Error code 1, while making '../../unxlngx6.pro/lib/libpyuno.so' ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /home/filhocf/projetos/aoo/source/main/pyuno/source/module - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Website Translation Solution Proposal
Hi 2013/2/20 Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com: This is an early investigation, I'm not familiar with Pootle. I will check to see if we can create a process to notify translators when something needs translating, such as their mailing list. In either situation I think we'll be gaining more translations with less overhead work. Its an improvement. Maybe we can use Website Meta Language - WML[1] [1]http://thewml.org/ I gave some examples in other thread[2] and we can get it sync easy and with some tools to monitoring the outdated pages[3]. [2]http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.openoffice.devel/1361 [3]http://www.debian.org/devel/website/stats/pt#outdated The problem is my time to reorganize and help this question, but I see that this resource (WML) can be a good solution. Regards, Claudio
Re: Trabalho voluntário (translation volunteer)
Hi 2012/12/19 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org: I have been watching for replies, surprised that we have none yet OK, anyone, any particular advice for translators? Yes. Was a problem update all emails here. I istarted in l10n list first. :-) On 12/18/2012 04:18 PM, Tatiane Araujo wrote: Good afternoon! Hi Tatiane. Welcome. :) I am Tatiane Araujo Cristo received a mensafem about volunteering Apache OpenOffice project, I want to include this project as a volunteer in the area of translation (Portuguese Brazil). This sounds good. We discuss our work in geral-pt-br@ list. So, I suggest to you subscribe this list[1]. At this moment, we are working in help files, wiki and web pages translations. We can discuss more about there, with other people that are waiting more details to help. What you think? [1] geral-ptbr-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org Bests, Claudio
Re: PT-BR for oo.apache.o
Hi 2012/12/15 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org: On 13/12/2012 Albino Biasutti Neto wrote: I see the need because there is enough information on the official website and not in others. Only if you can also add that infos in OO.o/pt-br ? Yes, I think you can include information about volunteering in http://www.openoffice.org/pt-br/participe.html and subpages. Andrea, here have a good point that i already tried find a reply using the Apache CMS, without success. If i have a page oo.o/participe.html and I wish to translate to pt-BR, i could put in oo.o/pt-br/participe.html. I translate the page and, if the original page (in english) is updated, i haven't idea how to track it easily. IMHO, we can do like the Debian Project, where exist THE SITE, and it is translated for many languages, and when you enter in this pages, through webserver detection, it changes for your native language. When the translation is outdated, have a warning at top of page, suggesting that there version is outdated and to read the current page into english page. See two example, for portuguese[1] and english[2]. If you enter in the main URL[3] will show at your language, if have translation for it, or in english if not. [1]http://www.debian.org/intro/about.pt.html [2]http://www.debian.org/intro/about.en.html [3]http://www.debian.org/intro/about I think that is a good way for us too. To see more about how Debian works with this question, you can see this page[4]. [4]http://www.debian.org/devel/website/translating What i did in some pages for pt-br was exactly this: get the english page and translate to pt-br with same tree. And if have a way to do some thing like Debian with Apache CMS, please, show me how that I will follow it. My two cents of Real (R$). ;-) Bests Claudio
