Re: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-08 Thread Dan Brown

Quoting Shad L. Lords [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 kernel.  I
 went back to 2.4.7 in order to keep the smp, BOOT, and regular kernel
 the same version.

SMP, BOOT, and regular kernels are all available for 2.4.9-21 (wish 
I'd noticed that before I spent all night building them).  Check your 
local RedHat mirror.  Of course, there's no smp for i386; you'd need to 
look in i586 or i686.

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-07 Thread Darrell May


David Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 I used the following procedure to upgrade my SME v5.1.2 *test*server to
a
 2.4.9-21 RedHat kernel:

David, many thanks for taking the time to put this mini-Howto together.  I
might have some time over the weekend to give it a try myself.

I do have a general question though that maybe you or other devinfo members
might be able to answer.  The question is far reaching but simply stated
would read:

'is this the _best_ way to go?'

Should we simply add a new kernel on top of SME or would it be better to
add SME on top of a complete RedHat 7.2 distro?

I'm thinking about all the modules and rpm dependencies that are kernel
specific.  I'm also thinking about ext3 file system.  Going the 'adding SME
to a distro' route would I think make it easier as everything we need is
there, we are simply added SME as well.

Please do not missunderstand.  I tremendously appreciate your HowTo contrib
and will take the time myself to give it a go and see if this is just as
easy.  Simply wanting to hear your opinion and others on the above as well.

Regards,

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-07 Thread Shad L. Lords

This is my first attempt as well at messing with kernel and stuff.  But
thanks to a great starting point by David Brown and a little bit of spare
time I have enhanced the howto for Upgrading the kernel to a 2.4 kernel.  I
went back to 2.4.7 in order to keep the smp, BOOT, and regular kernel the
same version.  I have also added a few things to get the main filesystem
converted to ext3 and added ipchain support so that the masq stuff still
works.  There still seems to be a problem with PPTP.  I have not had a
chance to test diald, pppoe or dhcpd stuff yet.  It appears that dhcpd at
least starts but that is as far as I have gotten.


do the following as root to update to 2.4.7 kernel with quota support and ext3
==

cd /root
mkdir rpms
cd rpms
mkdir done
wget 
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/kudzu-0.99.23-1.i386.rpm
wget 
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/mkinitrd-3.2.6-1.i386.rpm
wget 
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/modutils-2.4.6-4.i386.rpm
wget 
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/filesystem-2.1.6-2.noarch.rpm
wget 
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/setup-2.5.7-1.noarch.rpm
wget ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/bash-2.05-8.i386.rpm
rpm -Uvh *.rpm
mv * done
wget 
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/kernel-2.4.7-10.i386.rpm
wget 
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/kernel-BOOT-2.4.7-10.i386.rpm
wget 
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/kernel-pcmcia-cs-3.1.27-10.i386.rpm
wget 
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/kernel-smp-2.4.7-10.i586.rpm
wget 
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/hotplug-2001_04_24-11.i386.rpm
rpm -e kernel-pcmcia-cs
rpm -ivh *.rpm
mv * done
pico /etc/lilo.conf 
--
copy 'image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.19-7.0.8' line and all indented lines under it
change 'label=esmith' to 'label=esmith22'
copy 'image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.19-7.0.8smp' line if exists and all indented lines under 
it
if smp kernel exists change 'label=esmith-up' to 'label=esmith22-up'

on copies have have 'label=esmith' change all occurences of '2.2.19-7.0.8' to 
'2.4.7-10'
on copies have have 'label=esmith-up' if exists change all occurences of 
'2.2.19-7.0.8smp' to '2.4.7-10smp'
--
/sbin/e-smith/expand-template /etc/lilo.conf
lilo
reboot


if 'esmith-up' exists pick this
depmod -a
reboot


pick 'esmith'
depmod -a
reboot


cd rpms
wget 
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/quota-3.01pre9-3.i386.rpm
wget 
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/initscripts-6.40-1.i386.rpm
wget 
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/mount-2.11g-5.i386.rpm
wget 
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/iputils-20001110-6.i386.rpm
wget 
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/e2fsprogs-1.23-2.i386.rpm
wget 
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/7.2/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/ipchains-1.3.10-10.i386.rpm
 
rpm -Uvh *.rpm
mv * done
convertquota -u /
convertquota -g /
/etc/e-smith/events/actions/enable-quotas
tune2fs -j /dev/hda6
tune2fs -j /dev/hda1
pico /etc/fstab
---
change ext2 to ext3 on first 2 lines (Label=/ and Label=/boot)
---
/sbin/e-smith/expand-template /etc/fstab
/sbin/e-smith/config set ipchains service InitscriptOrder 06 status enabled
ln -s /etc/rc.d/init.d/e-smith/service /etc/rc.d/rc7.d/S06ipchains
touch /etc/sysconfig/ipchains
reboot


pico /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions
---
insert following below echo_passed() function (~line 332):
echo_disabled() {
  [ $BOOTUP = color ]  $MOVE_TO_COL
  echo -n [
  [ $BOOTUP = color ]  $SETCOLOR_WARNING
  echo -n DISABLED
  [ $BOOTUP = color ]  $SETCOLOR_NORMAL
  echo -n ]
  echo -ne \r
  return 1
}

insert following below passed() function (~line 385)
# Log that something passed, but is disabled in this configuration
disabled() {
  rc=$?
  if [ -z $IN_INITLOG ]; then
 initlog $INITLOG_ARGS -n $0 -s $1 -e 1
  else
 trap  SIGPIPE
 echo $INITLOG_ARGS -n $0 -s \$1\ -e 1 21
 trap - SIGPIPE
  fi
  [ $BOOTUP != verbose ]  echo_disabled
  return $rc
}

change following 2 lines (~line 404)
  initlog $INITLOG_ARGS -c $*  success $$STRING || failure $$STRING
  rc=$?
to
#  initlog $INITLOG_ARGS -c $*  success $$STRING || failure $$STRING
  initlog $INITLOG_ARGS -c $*
  rc=$?
  case $rc in
  0) success $STRING ;;
  99) disabled $STRING
  rc=0 ;;
  *) failure $STRING ;;
  esac
#  rc=$?
---
reboot


Still have to fix/test PPTP.  Appears that ppp.o and ppp_mppp.o in the 
/lib/modules/2.2.19-7.0.8/net may be needed for PPTP to work.  May need to recompile
these for the newer kernel.


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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-07 Thread Darrell May


Shad L. Lords [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 This is my first attempt as well at messing with kernel and stuff.

Looks like a fabulous first attempt to me Shad.  Great job!  I just wish I
had time to try this.  Maybe by the weekend.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-07 Thread David Brown

On Thursday, February 07, 2002, Darrell May wrote:

 David, many thanks for taking the time to put this mini-Howto together.  I
 might have some time over the weekend to give it a try myself.

No problem at all.  I'd appreciate it if other people would try this out and
verify that it works for them.  I forgot to mention that I did this on a SME
v5.1.2 server, upgraded from several 5.1 betas, just in case it matters.  I
chose the RedHat 2.4.9-21 kernel because it is the latest 2.4.x series that
RedHat has released (I think) and there has been some discussion that this
is one of the most stable kernels in the 2.4.x series.

 I do have a general question though that maybe you or other
 devinfo members
 might be able to answer.  The question is far reaching but simply stated
 would read:

 'is this the _best_ way to go?'

Don't take this the wrong way, but who cares?  Now let me qualify that. :)
I think we will only find the _best_ way by testing several methods of
upgrading to a 2.4.x kernel to see what works best.  After seeing that,
Mitel management may decide that it really isn't that hard after all ... or
they may not.  Either way, we as developers will have tracked down some of
the issues that need to be considered.

 Should we simply add a new kernel on top of SME or would it be better to
 add SME on top of a complete RedHat 7.2 distro?

 I'm thinking about all the modules and rpm dependencies that are kernel
 specific.  I'm also thinking about ext3 file system.  Going the
 'adding SME
 to a distro' route would I think make it easier as everything we need is
 there, we are simply added SME as well.

Well, I'm going to mess with taking the latest RedHat 7.2 versions of all
the packages on the SME v5.1.2 disk and make a custom iso to install a
system with SME on top of RedHat 7.2.  I'll start this tonight and see how
it goes.  Here's the biggest problem (as has already been stated several
times): even if we get all the latest up to date RedHat 7.2 packages up and
running.

David M. Brown
Frick, Frick  Jetté Architects
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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-07 Thread Darrell May


David Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Don't take this the wrong way, but who cares?  Now let me qualify that.
:)

No worries.  Your point is an excellent one.  We might have to try both
ways.  I was only hoping to seek advice from those that have already gone
there before to share with us their wisdom.

For all onlist that may not be aware, there is a tremendous amount of
development activity which happens offlist.  There are some incredible
projects already underway that I am aware of and I'm sure there are hundreds
more I do not even know about.

So, you may find some of my questions are geered to trying to get these
people to speak up and share with the devinfo community.  Sometimes they do,
mostly they reply to me directly.  Ultimately it is their choice to choose
whom they reply to.  I always ask if I may share back their comments to
devinfo and this is where many of my posts originate.  Latest example was my
'krud' post which spurred this new activity ;-

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-07 Thread Shad L. Lords

From the work I have done trying to get PPTP working with the 2.4 kernel I
think that the ppp.o and ppp_mppe.o modules that exist in the
/lib/modules/2.2.19-7.0.8-e-smith/net directory are going to need to be
recompiled for the new version of the kernel (2.4.7 or 2.4.9).  Is there
anyone out there that is willing to help in recompiling these modules (I
would prefer to start with the 2.4.7-10 kernel).  If possible it would be
nice to have both the smp and normal versions.  I have machines that fit
both configurations that I can test with.

If someone could recompile these modules and send them here then I will
report back success or failure.

Thanks everyone,

-Shad




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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-07 Thread Edward . Tak



 Well, I'm going to mess with taking the latest RedHat 7.2 versions of all
 the packages on the SME v5.1.2 disk and make a custom iso to install a

To give you a heads up,
I tried to build a custom iso cd of the 5..2 release and had lots of
problems.
First, the RedHat directory generally in the RedHat cd was rename to
e-smith
and so the stock genhdlist from the 7.1 cd will not work.

I recompiled the genhdlist with references to RedHat change to e-smith and
the genhdlist ran without errors.
Unfortunately, when I try to install off the cd, the installer croaked when
it got to installing the rpm packages

By the way, anyone find the src.rpm for the anacronda that was used to
build the cd?

edward






[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/07/2002 12:03:00 PM

To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Internet, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Internet,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Internet
cc:(bcc: Edward Tak/CA/KAIPERM)
Subject:  RE: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

On Thursday, February 07, 2002, Darrell May wrote:

 David, many thanks for taking the time to put this mini-Howto together.  I
 might have some time over the weekend to give it a try myself.

No problem at all.  I'd appreciate it if other people would try this out and
verify that it works for them.  I forgot to mention that I did this on a SME
v5.1.2 server, upgraded from several 5.1 betas, just in case it matters.  I
chose the RedHat 2.4.9-21 kernel because it is the latest 2.4.x series that
RedHat has released (I think) and there has been some discussion that this
is one of the most stable kernels in the 2.4.x series.

 I do have a general question though that maybe you or other
 devinfo members
 might be able to answer.  The question is far reaching but simply stated
 would read:

 'is this the _best_ way to go?'

Don't take this the wrong way, but who cares?  Now let me qualify that. :)
I think we will only find the _best_ way by testing several methods of
upgrading to a 2.4.x kernel to see what works best.  After seeing that,
Mitel management may decide that it really isn't that hard after all ... or
they may not.  Either way, we as developers will have tracked down some of
the issues that need to be considered.

 Should we simply add a new kernel on top of SME or would it be better to
 add SME on top of a complete RedHat 7.2 distro?

 I'm thinking about all the modules and rpm dependencies that are kernel
 specific.  I'm also thinking about ext3 file system.  Going the
 'adding SME
 to a distro' route would I think make it easier as everything we need is
 there, we are simply added SME as well.

Well, I'm going to mess with taking the latest RedHat 7.2 versions of all
the packages on the SME v5.1.2 disk and make a custom iso to install a
system with SME on top of RedHat 7.2.  I'll start this tonight and see how
it goes.  Here's the biggest problem (as has already been stated several
times): even if we get all the latest up to date RedHat 7.2 packages up and
running.

David M. Brown
Frick, Frick  Jetté Architects
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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-07 Thread Dan Brown

 
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 'is this the _best_ way to go?'

Best in the sense of being the most comprehensive, complete,
compatible way of doing things?  Probably not.  From that
perspective, it's probably better to start with the RH7.2 versions of
all the relevant packages--or install versions which were designed to
be RH7.1 updates (there's a 2.4.9-21 kernel distributed as a RH7.1
update, as well as the RH7.2 one that David used).

However, David's suggestion may be the best in the sense of being
quite functional and less work to implement than replacing all the
packages, even when there isn't an obvious reason to do so.  Ease of
implementation is also an important consideration, of course.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-07 Thread Darrell May


[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 First, the RedHat directory generally in the RedHat cd was rename to
 e-smith

That one is easy.  I build custom isos daily.  When I give you the answer
don't scream too loud

Change to the base directory of your iso copy.  Let's say if your copy is
located at /root/sme512

cd /root/sme512
ln -s e-smith RedHat

After that you'll find the standard RedHat anaconda-runtime rpm and
genhdlist and all the other iso build tools work just fine.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-07 Thread David Brown

On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, David Brown wrote:

 Here's the biggest problem (as has already been stated several
 times): even if we get all the latest up to date RedHat 7.2 packages up
and
 running.

I guess I should read what I post before I post it. :)  What I meant to say
was:

Here's the biggest problem (as has already been stated several times): even
if we get all the latest up to date RedHat 7.2 packages up and running, we
still need masq modules for pptp, ipsec, realaudio, h323, icq, and possibly
more that will work with the 2.4.x kernel.  This is a much bigger challenge
IMHO than simply upgrading SME to a 2.4.x series kernel.  I'm looking into
this, but I've never looked into programming kernel modules, so I assume a
steep learning curve.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-07 Thread Darrell May


David Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 we still need masq modules for pptp, ipsec, realaudio, h323, icq, and 

Agreed, they are extremely valuable to those that do use and need them.

However, from another viewpoint, many small business SME users don't use
them, don't need them and therfore won't even miss them.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-07 Thread Charlie Brady


On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Darrell May wrote:

 However, from another viewpoint, many small business SME users don't use
 them, don't need them and therfore won't even miss them.

This is especially true for servers running in serveronly mode.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-07 Thread David Brown



 -Original Message-
 From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:43 PM
 To: David Brown; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo



 David Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

  we still need masq modules for pptp, ipsec, realaudio, h323, icq, and

 Agreed, they are extremely valuable to those that do use and need them.

 However, from another viewpoint, many small business SME users don't use
 them, don't need them and therfore won't even miss them.

True, but the only way Mitel as a company is going to make the move to a 2.4
kernel IMHO is if these modules are available and working properly.  If we
are looking for the _best_ solution, we must consider this issue.

Upgrading the kernel seems almost trivial at this point, since it involves
putting together pre-made pieces in a defined sequence.  Masq modules, OTOH
seem to be far more daunting, as they involve actual coding.  Anyone truly
interested in this thread should look into the status of masq modules for
the 2.4 kernel to see if they can help port the ones we need from the 2.2
kernel series.  Not only would this help your favorite Linux distro, it
would benefit the Linux community at large.

David M. Brown
Frick, Frick  Jetté Architects
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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-07 Thread Darrell May


Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 This is especially true for servers running in serveronly mode.

Absolutely, ... how did I miss that great example!  Definitely not needed
there and that takes care of most of the larger SME corporate clients where
corporate firewalls/VPN are already in place doing their thing.

I'm even sitting at a client now that has a Nortel Extranet in place.  Just
taking a time out and checking e-mails.

Thanks Charlie,

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-07 Thread David Brown

 -Original Message-
 From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:01 PM
 To: Charlie Brady; Darrell May
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 Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

  This is especially true for servers running in serveronly mode.

 Absolutely, ... how did I miss that great example!  Definitely not needed
 there and that takes care of most of the larger SME corporate
 clients where
 corporate firewalls/VPN are already in place doing their thing.

I understand this, since you only implement masq in gateway mode, but I left
that fact out of my previous post because I don't see it as being very
feasible to have serveronly mode based on a 2.4.x kernel and server and
gateway mode dependent on modules that force a 2.2.x kernel.  How do you
ship a product like that?

David M. Brown
Frick, Frick  Jetté Architects
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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-07 Thread Charlie Brady


On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, David Brown wrote:

  Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
   This is especially true for servers running in serveronly mode.
 
  Absolutely, ... how did I miss that great example!  Definitely not needed
  there and that takes care of most of the larger SME corporate
  clients where
  corporate firewalls/VPN are already in place doing their thing.
 
 I understand this, since you only implement masq in gateway mode, but I left
 that fact out of my previous post because I don't see it as being very
 feasible to have serveronly mode based on a 2.4.x kernel and server and
 gateway mode dependent on modules that force a 2.2.x kernel.  How do you
 ship a product like that?

You (probably) don't. But that's a marketing problem not a development 
one. :-)

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] 2.4.x Kernel Upgrade Mini-HowTo

2002-02-07 Thread Charlie Brady


On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 By the way, anyone find the src.rpm for the anacronda that was used to
 build the cd?

It'll soon show up with all the other src.rpms from the 5.1.2
distribution. It was omitted because it's not in the RPMS directory, so
was missing from my list.

Good luck with it - anaconda is no fun to play with.

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